July 29, 2023 • 44 mins
This week UNH Poli-Sci professor Dante Scala joins Justin to talk about what a train-wreck Ron Desantis' campaign has been in the early going, with no signs of un-train-wrecking.
Then Kendra Middleton of the Saturdays & Seltzers podcast (and a million other places) joins the show to talk all things F1, including being a Max Verstappen apologist, King Yuki, why she's not a Pierre Gasly fan, and much more!
Then Kendra Middleton of the Saturdays & Seltzers podcast (and a million other places) joins the show to talk all things F1, including being a Max Verstappen apologist, King Yuki, why she's not a Pierre Gasly fan, and much more!
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Welcome to Overtime, the only showwhere normally I make something up here that's
supposed to be like cheeky or whatever, but this one's real. I had
to wait for two different appliances toshut up before I can record the open.
I'm your host, Justin mcasac.Of course, we record this show
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and right next to the dining roomis the laundry room where the I'd
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Do? Do do do before Ican record the open, So bring
it on the fourth wall for youhere today on Overtime jam Packs show.
Leading off is Dante Scala, Professorof political science at the University of New
Hampshire. We're gonna talk about Rodde Santis and why that's been a complete
disaster. Many did not predict that. I did, mostly because of how
I feel about De Santis's politics,But as it turns out, he's not
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just not good at those either,he's not good at being a human being
on the campaign trail, So wetalk about that a bit. Also.
Kendram Middleton, old friend, joinsthe program. Kendra did some sideline reporting
for UNH football back on the day. Now she does like everything else.
She's on nesson on Dirty Water Media, she does sidelin reporting for Big East
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Hockey, she's on the sports updown in Boston's pretty much everywhere. And
like me, she got bit bythe Formula one bug, and once that
bug bites you, there ain't nogetting rid of that narcotic So Formula one
is the topic with Kendra and I. That'll be coming up in the second
part of the program. So muchinterviewing going on, don't have a whole
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whole lot of time for me tojust shoot the breeze with you, so
we'll take a quick break, comeback and talk to Dante Scalin next.
This is over time keep it herejoining us on overtime. I'm one of
the smartest dudes in not just NewHampshire, but I would say the nation
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when it comes to political analysis andpolitical science. Dante Scala of you,
h what's up? Dante Bello jin? How are you? I'm great?
Where we got thirty nine days tokick off for the United football team.
I'm getting fired up to see.Well that's we thought it was gonna well,
not me personally, but many peoplethought I was gonna be a good
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year for Ronda Santish with the Floridagovernor who decided to run for president.
Uh. He has had hit ofa week this week. Um, he
had to fire a bunch of staffers, he got in a car accident.
Uh. He today was spotted gettingon a private jet after firing a bunch
of people, which is always agreat look. And just like I think
about a half hour ago, Igot a tussle with the reporters about what
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exactly is in the Florida Education Department'snew curriculum, which the Walk of the
short of the states that they haveto Florida to teach that there were some
benefits to enslave people for being enslaved, So quite a week for our guy,
Ronnie Dee. It's you know,he's I was one of those who
thought that he would be having abetter year than he's having, and he
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started off that way. I mean, in January, he looked it looked
as if Donald Trump was on hisway to being done, and that just
Santas was ready to be the heirapparent, the successor and so forth.
And now he's, as you say, he's closer to third place than he
is to first place, both inyou know, important places like Iowa as
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well as the nation. And I'vebeen thinking back and forth about whether actually
stopped buying to Santa's stock anytime,because people keep selling it to me and
I keep buying it. So nowI'm like, what do I do with
all is the Santa stuff that I'vegot stored up? The price is so
low, How could you resist Dante? Exactly? Yeah. Yeah, But
I mean I've seen primaries now foryou know, going on twenty five years,
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and there have been a few caseswhere campaigns and candidates have been circling
the drain and I've thought they're done, it's over, and they've turned out
okay, you know, John Carreyin two thousand and four, John McCain
in two thousand and eight. SoI'm not entirely ready to hang it up
on Ron, but no question,it's looking really difficult. And he doesn't
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have you know, he hasn't beeneight. It's it's another case justin where
the candid on paper doesn't reflect thecandidate in reality. And I even left,
don't a thing that happened. Ithink it was yesterday, were oh
my, yeah, yeah, Welllisten, I could pile if you want
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to, if the whole show couldbe just piling on, just dunking on
Ron de Santis throughout three sixty windmilldunks. But maybe the people listen to
my show. We're here for that. But anyway, well, I think
it was Wednesday. There was aninterview released where he suggested that Robert F.
Kennedy Junior, in a De Santisadministration, could be the head of
the CDC or perhaps the FDA,which does Santi's manage to piss off both
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sides of the aisle because rfk Jr. Is a crazy anti vaxer and also
is pro abortion. So he managedto make everybody mad at once, which
was quite a feat. Yeah,it's De Santis is having a hard time
figuring out who he wants to be, right, And this is another case
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where you see a governor who hashad great local appeal reaching up to the
national level and floundering. And youknow, it's we saw this Scott Walker,
for example, back in twenty sixteen. He looked like the next the
next great hope, and we're seeingit now. And what striking is of
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all the candidates, De Santas seemto have the best rationale right that I
could. I can deliver all thegood things about Trump is m without being
Donald Trump. And turns out alot of Republicans are perfectly happy with trump
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Ism only when it comes from DonaldTrump himself, Like Donald Trump is an
essential part of the package. Right, I'm gonna soapbox here just for an
You can agree or disagree or punton this, but just with with these
descends specifically. But these Republican governorsthat had their little fiefdom, you know,
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in their states where people know themand they can do these I'll call
them fascist things, where like theythey they rail against trans and gay folks
and really kind of trying to eraseblack history. I think that works if
you're in your own state where peopleknow you, and you know the people
that have you know, people havevoted for you before and kind of are
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use to your idiosyncracies and quirks.Uh. The brand of politics Trump springs,
you know, is kind of thesame thing. It's it's a lot
clumsier, it's uh, it's alot more bombastic. But Trump was also
a celebrity for thirty five years beforehe started, you know, doing these
sorts of sorts of you know,actions where you know, trying to overthrow
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the elected government United States, thingslike that. So people that got to
know and like Trump got to knowhim for decades before you know, he
was on the scene asking for theirvote. Right, if you're out side
of Florida, maybe you've heard ofround to Save This here and there,
but you don't really know him.I mean, if I'm an average Trump
voter, I know Donald Trump.I seen him on my TV for all
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this time. You know, Itrust him. Why would I vote for
this h this guy with a weirdwhite boots one of Florida that kids seemed
to act right in public? Yeah, I mean there are a lot of
I mean, there are a lotof Trump voters out there who liked Trump
but seemed open to alternatives, right, and so how do you how do
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you reach those voters in particular,and the Santas when he was governor sometimes
when he started off, was kindof this blend of conservative policies and more
moderate policies. But then when hebegan running nationally against Trump, he seemed
to think, you know, theonly way to a clips Trump is to
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run hard to his right. Andone of the under some things about Trump
was his ability to be all thingsto all kinds of different Republicans, right,
to kind of break Republican orthodoxy onthings like social security. And DeSantis
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has just been, you know,run to the right, and then when
that didn't work, Yeah, there'sjust been a I mean it's really been
difficult for me. I mean,we've been watching this very painful reset,
and this reset seems to have lastedweeks now, and you know, you
hope that you're going to get allthe bad news over with at once,
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Like I remember with John McCain backin two thousand and seven. You know,
all the bad news came pretty quickly, and then there was John McCain,
by his lonely self, flying upto New Hampshire and then he went
quiet for a while. Right.And but DeSantis, it guess seems like
this because keeps this story justus keepson giving to the media that are circling
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him. Yeah, and it didn'thelp. But it came out last week
that, you know, like Isaid, the Florida Board of Education's new
curriculum that says you have to ithas to be taught, that there were
some benefit to enslave people being enslaved. I mean, that's you know,
for I think I think even forRepublican voters who do like to fight in
these culture wars, there's a lineof demarcations like, yeah, we want
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to we we we care about beingsocially conservative, but we don't want to
look like, for lack of abetter term, a holes, right,
Like like people like me who aresocially way far to the left think kind
of paint all those people with thesame brush. But I think there's nuances
within the Republican Party where they say, yeah, we would like to fight
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the culture wars, but we don'twant to fight that dirty. And I
think that's where DeSantis has kind ofgot himself into trouble a bit. Plus
Donald Trump. For as much asI don't like him and a lot of
people don't like him, he hasa personality. He has something people can
grasp onto and Ron de Santis justdoesn't seem to have any of that.
And the latest reset is, well, let Ron be Ron. I think
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that's been the problem. It's youknow, I mean watching the Santis and
in New Hampshire and then comparing himto say, you know, two of
his competitors, like Tim Scott.You know, saw I saw Tim Scott
at a town hall recently. Andyou see Tim Scott and even if you're
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a Democrat, you say, youknow what, I kind of like the
guy. He's very positive, he'supbeat, he shakes your hand, he's
willing to take a selfie, hepokes fun at himself. He seems to
be having a good time being aconservative, which seems like an increasingly rare
thing these days. Right, Soyou go listen to theay Grandmaswami and here's
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somebody who you know, you candisagree with him, to be sure,
but he seems to have a visionfor the country as young as he is,
and it's a very conservative vision,no doubt. But again, contrast
that with DeSantis. De Santists oftenseemed to my mind like, okay,
this is that, like you boughtthe paint Fine numbers kit about how to
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become the Republican nominee, and aslong as he diligently does that, he
doesn't have to do any of theextras. And it's really been something to
watch him go from these big eventswhere he doesn't take a single question to
now he's willing to do house parties. Yeah, and you know, basically
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it's this it's this classic you knowreset where you go back and you try
to start all over again. It'sand maybe maybe in the end, justin
he'll be able to pull this off. But you just look at all the
wasted time, Like i mean,half of the year's over, and he
started off really as the co frontrunner, and now you know he's really
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he's settling back with the rest ofthe pack. Talking to Dante h professor
of political science and all around agood guy to your point, Dante,
Uh, you know when Mike Pencecalls into to New Hampshire today and I'm
the guy that has to answer thephone and like talk to the guests before
they come on the air and haveto deal with the ordeal that is being
interviewed by Chris Bryan. But whenwhen Mike pants, when Mike Pence calls
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in, Like I find Mike Pence'spolitics and policies to be reprehensible, but
when I talk to him, justis you know, like one guy talking
to another. He's very pleasant totalk to, like, oh, how
are you justin? How's it going? How's everything in New Hampshire? You
know, and there's like, youknow, that's it sounds cheesy, but
there's something to be said for likehaving like a human moment with somebody.
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And Ron just Santas just does notseem to be capable thus far of having
any type of human moments with anybody. I's thinking about what you just said,
right, incapable of madity, Right, it's quite an indictment, right,
And it's just, um, Imean, here's someone who it turns
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out, right that all the badstories, you know, it turned out
to be true, and it's interms of his limited ability to interact with
people and so forth. And youknow the question is, you know,
will you be able to kind ofbreak through all that? Um? But
it's a classic you know, frontrunners dilemma and he became the front runner
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and took on that aura, andhe seemed to take on all the prerogatives
and privileges without ever actually being thereal front runner. Right, And meanwhile
there's Trump, and you know,and Trump seems, you know, very
serious about being the nominee in away that his campaign wasn't eight years ago.
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I mean, they're they're I meanthey're really You look at what they're
doing on things like party delegate selection, and they're dotting their eyes and crossing
their teas on all these little things. Well, the presidency might be the
only thing he keeps him from theinside of a jail cell. So I
feel like if that were my onlyoption from doing like a like an eight
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year bit, I might be prettyserious to dote that would that's a focusing
effect on the mind. Yeah,I could, I could see that.
But I mean it's um all thissaid, it's it gets back to the
question. I mean, if itwere easy to de throne Trump, someone
would have done it by him.Now sure, And I look at the
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rest of the field, and youknow, Tim Scott is a really nice
fellow, and but I saw himfor an hour, you know, an
hour and a half at a townhall, and I didn't come away thinking,
ah, this first has the cheapcode for beating Donald Trump. In
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fact, it didn't especially look likehe was really interested in finding the cheap
code to beat Donald Trump. Youknow, Nicky Haley's out there saying,
hey, I was with him,I was with Trump, but now I'm
not. I'm not sure what herration now is for being the nominee instead
of Trump. With Mike Pence,I can see it, but it's you
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know, I look around and say, well, okay, who you know.
With Vegue, I can see it. I mean when he says I'll
do better than Trump did, likeI will be Donald Trump. And in
some ways the Santists should have kindof taken a lesson from him, right,
But even Vega is very very deferentialto Trump, like there's no one
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Chris Chrissy. But the Trump peopleseemed to hate him so much that they
won't, you know, won't votefrom under any circumstances. But he seems
to be the only Republican that saysI'll do better than Trump. And also,
here's all the reasons you shouldn't votefor Trump. It seems like the
Republican field is like, well,I'll do better than Trump. But Trump
is actually really great, and eventhough he was really great, you should
vote for me instead of him.It's like it's like I have an r
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C Cola, and this r Ccola is is great. It's not as
good as Coca Cola, which isright over here, but you should take
this RC cola anyway, Like yougotta you gotta market yourself as something other
than r C cola, Right,Yeah, And you know, just in
the more time i spender in theTrump era, and the longer I'm wrong
about Trump, Like I don't knowhow many times I've thought and even said,
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well, this is the last thisis this is the time that Republicans
would attast themselves from Donald Trump andso forth. I've just come to the
conclusion, you know, maybe wejust live in bizarre world and Trump is
bizarre. O'reagan, And I mean, now he's been he's been the center
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trope figure of Republican politics going ona decade, right, just like Ronald
Reagan was the central figure of histime really from the late seventies through the
nineteen eighties. I mean Trump,I mean set aside policy accomplishments and so
forth, but just in terms ofstaying power. I mean that's Trump is
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rivaling Reagan at this point, andpeople are used to Trump, as odd
as that sounds, and will allthese multiple indictments and so forth ultimately convince
us enough people to detach themselves andsay, I really like Trump, but
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no I don't. I talked toJoe Walsh about this last week and we
agreed, Trump, if he's sittinginto jail cell, we'll still win the
nomination. He'll buddy Seancy this thingand be able to win the nomination from
prison because the people that love himto there's nothing you can do or nothing
he can do either that will justwith them of that notion. And this
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was kind of the deal Republicans made. I made this analogy with with Dean
Spiliotis. It was like buying aparent, right, you think of buying
a parent, It's like, oh, it's great, mae. You know
it'll copy once you say, it'llbe entertaining, it'll be fun, and
it's a good time until you realizethe parent lives for forty years and you've
got to have that parrot until it'sgone forty years from now, and it's
not gonna be forty years of Trump. But the effects might be but it's
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gonna be you know, if heif he doesn't win the nomination this time
around, I have no reason tothink he won't. But if he doesn't,
he's definitely gonna run as a thirdparty. He's not gonna go quietly.
And if he loses the general election, who's to say, we're not
doing this again in twenty twenty eight. Yeah, now that's um, that's
sobering thought. But it's it's avery real possibility. And and for de
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Santists, it's just, you know, it is he does feel like the
like the Coke zero compared to Trump, right, you can have. But
the thing is that people, youknow, it's it's almost as if he's
saying, well, I'm like I'llbeat Trump and I'm better for you,
and people people like all the caloriesthat come with Trump, and there's they
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like all the over the topness.They like being part of the party that
comes with Trump, and that's toughto duplicates. And with the Santists,
it's like, who are you actually? You know, I guess seems very
you guess seems very flat in comparisonwith the person he's trying to replace.
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We're talking to unh before we'll letyou go. Dante two questions. One
well, I'll ask the first thisone first and then gets to the second
one. The second one Celtics related. But how has how has the Trump
era in his invincibility against so theRepublicans changed how you look at teaching a
political science course. Have you hadto like rethink the entire thing, or
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is do you just treat this aslike a unicorns and then an only to
your students. I think I startedjustin with the unicorn theory, and I've
slowly but surely come to grips withthe fact that there's no going back,
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right, there's only going through.So as tempting as it is to say,
well, this was a one offand so forth, I do think
that, you know, I don'tthink we'll ever see the Republican Party of
Mitt Romney and George Bush again.And that's what makes you know, the
Nicky Haley's and the Chris Christie's too, sound like they're you know, people
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at a time. You know.Fergus Cullen wrote this thing for New Journal
recently that kind of said, looksit sounds like Nicky Haley is kind of
trapped in this time war and it'stwenty eleven all over again, and there's
just no you know, I guessthink there's no going back. And for
my students there, this is alllike, this is how things are,
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whereas I'm old enough to think toknow it was different at one point,
and sometimes that's more of an obstacleto understanding how things are now. Yeah,
I can only imagine. All right, last thing before let you go,
Jaylen Brown signs a supermax contract,which is I think he would have
signed a two weeks ago, butthey put it on his left and he
can't go to his left. Whatdo you think of the Jaylen Brown signing?
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I'm I'm pleased. Let's let's runit back, Let's let's get tabled
and turn out. Well, Imean, what were the alternatives when in
the schelf right? I mean,what what what could you get for Brown
that would ever placed him? Ihope he's working on his ball handling scales,
but um um optimistic. I'm keepingmy fingers crossed about porzingis Yeah,
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that we'll all you know, thatwill kind of get a better offense coming
out. We're still wearing a blackarmband from Marcus Smart in my household.
But I understand this all. MissMarcus two sometimes, but I will miss
you. I will missen in thelast five minutes of a game shooting threes
if there's a Q and on formMarcus Smart, I am the guy with
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the Viking helmet on for that.So Dante Scott, University of Hampshire Political
Science Professor granted prof on Twitter,thanks so much for being on the show.
You're welcome. Joining me today onovertime is Kendra Middleton, who's on
five thousand media things, including herpodcast Saturdays and Seltzer's. You can hear
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her on ninety eighty five The Sportsof Catch on Nesson on Dirty Water Media.
What else, Kendron? What amI forgetting? There's like three hundred
things? What else do you do? I know? Yeah, you can
catch me during my college season onNessan as well doing some college hockey stuff.
Um pll if you care about lacrossepretty much, that's sometimes on DraftKings.
I guess. So you can catchme on all those places. Is
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that all? That's it? That'sall you're I think so, I think
that's it at the moment. Offtopic, but do you know my boy
Liam Murphy who works for PLL.He does like all a bunch of their
media stuff. I do know Liam, Yeah, soci. I covered Liam
when he was a high school hockeyplayer. That's how old I am.
And now he's so funny. Yeah. Now he's like the lacrosse coached over
high and does all their like allsorts of media stuff for them, and
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he's killing it. Yeah awesome.So instead of Kendrick's seven hundred jobs,
what I've asked Kendrick to talk aboutis Formula one, which, as my
audience knows, is a big passionof mine. Yeah. Where did you
start watching Kendrick? Because I,like a lot of people caught it during
the pandemic. By what? Okay, my wife, my daughter, my
brother in law, myself, weall now have like a family F one
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chat. We started watching Driver Surviveabout a bang. We were hooked.
What about you? That's awesome.So I actually got into it because my
girlfriends are like huge into F oneand anytime you can find a girlfriend group
in sports, I don't care whatit is like, I'll get into it.
And I was so sick. I'mtired of them always talking about f
one drive to survive all that stuff, and I binged it, got into
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it, started watching races. I'mhooked. It's pretty much my entire feed
on every social media platform at thispoint. I have gone on a couple
of podcasts talking about F one.I'm in group chats on Twitter. I'm
kind of just so in deep onthe lore now. It's wild. It
takes it like like you suddenly oneday, it takes over your whole life.
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You're like, well, I reallydoes. I gotta watch practice on
Friday, and I gotta watch Qualityand if I have to schedule up right
now, right, yeah, infull disclosure, I have to wait until
my wife gets home from work takingthis on Friday after wait till Bernie gets
home from work to watch this morning'squalifying session, and my daughter will not
let us watch it and then pretendwe didn't watch it. So I'm kind
of blind. This is what happenedin Quality, So we want to talk
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about that. About this. Youcan't even get on Twitter. No,
I've been on Twitter at like sixhours. It's terrible. Wow, Yeah,
dedication homes, But go ahead,Okay, but did you about the
big news? I know you probablydon't know who placed where, But there
is something we had to talk aboutbecause it's one of the biggest things that's
happened. Did you hear what,Max? Yeah? The grid, the
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grid penaltiers or something. Yeah,with his gearbox. Yeah, it doesn't,
but it does if you're a betterHis odds go from like minus seven
hundred to minus six fifty or whathe's well, yeah, now he's not
gonna win by thirty seconds, He'sgoin by ten. I don't know.
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That's a big track so forever,the one that spa Franco Schamps this weekend
in Belgium. And yeah, Maxfor stopping. For those of you not
familiar with what happened, but bythe time you have this errors you probably
will be. He had to changea few parts in his gearbox. You
only get four or five gear boxesper year, so he's a five place
grid penally the last year Max,I think started fourteenth at spawn still one.
So he's he's inevitable, he's standings, he's dominant. Fuck what I
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tell people who aren't into F one, Kidron, and you, being a
college football fan, you can mayberelate to this. F one's a lot
like college football. You know who'sgonna win every year. There's a bunch
of millionaires being super petty with eachother. The memes are outstanding, and
you just watch the memes are reallygood. The memes are really good.
I think that F one's a littlebit more likable than SEC football or college
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football or you know, let's callit what it is, it's SEC football.
But because there's so few drivers,there's ten teams, twenty drivers,
you get to know the drivers sointimately if you really follow it, and
I think that that's the thing thatmakes F one so different, outside of
the fact that half the time they'resetting up tracks around major cities. That's
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like the cool thing about F oneto me is that if you watch races
or you travel for F one orwhatever, not only do you get to
go see a sport, but youalso get a vacation because F one is
only in cool places. So thefact that you just get to know the
tracks and the drivers so intimately iswhat I find attractive about F one,
because you know, it is asport, turn left, whatever. But
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I enjoy it because I like thedrivers, and there are drivers that I
don't like and drivers that I dolike. But that's how you get.
That's how you get so addicted toF one is because you get addicted to
like how closely you feel this bondis with the drivers and the team and
just the guys who even change theirfreaking tires sometimes, right, yeah,
like the what is it? Ferrarihas the mechanic who's like, yes,
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he's all swollen therap God, yes, all right. So that leads me
to this question because my daughter hasa similar thing. My daughter don't watch
any other sports, right, shewatches No don't care about football, basketball
though, that is full on inon F one, And one of the
things she loves most about it ishating George Russell. She hates. I
hate George Russell. Oh my god, I got introduce. What is it
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about George? You hate he?This is so mean, but I don't
really care you. We've known eachother for years, you know whatever.
I'm just gonna say it. Heis white bread. He just if I
could describe white bread and human being, it would be George Russell Russell.
He's just so boring, bland.It's not that he I don't want to
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say he's unlikable because he's not reallya villain. He's just I forget he
exists. I texted my friend Abbythis morning in our girls f one group
chat and I said, she goessometimes I forget Land Stroll exists. And
I said, I forget that GeorgeRussell exists. Yeah, he's he's a
he's a nanny sandwich on whitebread witha glass of milk on the side,
right, And yeah, I wouldn'teven give him the milk. But not
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only that, he like whatever hedoes something wrong. Whenever he smashes into
somebody, when he like steams intoa turn and takes out Sergio Perez,
he acts as though, you know, he's never done anything wrong in his
life. My daughter hates because thedriver to survive, he came out of
the car and slap beltery boat tossupside the head. So yeah, I
remember that we all hate George Russell. Oh guy, I love that you
hate him? Who else? Who? Wilson The Grid is not one of
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Kendra Middleton's favorites. Pierre not aPierre. You're doing Pierre? I hate
Pierre? Do you eat Pierre?A couple of reasons. This is real
tea. He's twenty seven and hisgirlfriend's eighteen. That's yeah, that's probably
weird. I did read that.Um, he's got some problematic like old
tweets and Instagram stuff. He's alsoyeah, he's also just kind of a
(30:17):
sissy. I don't know if yousaw everything that happened with Carlos things last
week in him where he like thoughtthat Carlos impeded him or whatever and like
went online and decided to have Twitterfingers or whatever. It's just like grow
up. He does do a bitof a thing where, yeah, whenever
things go wrong and Alpine is acomplete bleep show right now, they just
they're firing I know Atmar and theother dude that's one of their technical directors.
(30:41):
But whenever, whenever something goes wrong, he does like get on Instagram
and post the video like, ohlook at this, and a lot of
people like, I don't know whatI'm looking at here, Pierre, but
this is I'm gonna have to keepthis, uh, this interview away from
Reneemo Kasac because she is all inon Alpine. She's an esteban and Pierre
fan I love Stie Bestie. Seeeverybody loves Stie Bestie. Pierre's the Kevin
(31:03):
Durant of f one. Yeah that'sthat's yes, he said, he hasn't
want anything yet. He's won onerace a couple of years ago, but
that's it. Yeah, he isKevin Durant when he was in out West
the first time, when he waswith a thunder I got you. Yeah
all right, yeah yeah, whenhe still had Twitter burners, total rabbity
ears. Here's about him. Okay, all right, I can see that.
(31:26):
All right? Who are some ofyour favorites before I uh, before
I let you before I tell youmy favorite? Sorry? Yeah, who
got all? You said? Youlove Yuki Sonoda. I love Yuki.
He's kind of a king. Yes, I just I love that he's like
five foot four and like the angriesthuman alive, but also just adorable and
terrified of sharks and helped clean upafter the floods in Italy. Like he's
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just an enigma. Um. Ilove Yuki immediately. Like his first race
where he where he scored point.I think he scored points his first race,
but his whole team radio and ifyou don't watch F one, basically
you can see everything that's said betweenthe teams and used to be between the
official stupid Yuki was just he's he'slike Kendrick said, he's a tiny little
Japanese man who does nothing but swearnot awesome. Oh my god, he's
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so great, and then it's awesome. Yeah he's he's the best. But
who else is on your on yourfaces list? I love Lando, He's
becoming a favorite for me. Everybodyloves Daniel Ricardo. I do love Max.
I know people hate on Max.I'm actually a max apologist. Yeah
he's Yeah, he's the best.Yeah, he wins. Yeah, he's
kind of a jerk about it.But he's also just not At the same
(32:36):
time, he's so misunderstood and sofunny. I don't know, fothered too.
He is, and he loves Hejust wants to go home and hang
out with his cats. He wantsto kick everybody's ass and hang out with
his cats. And that's awesome tome. Jimmy and Sassy the Bengal cats.
So how have you seen him withthe hammer when he beat his own
door and to get his cat out. Yeah, it's just so likable.
(32:57):
Yeah. The most likable things aboutMax are like the he posts. He's
such a racing dorc Max Verstappen thatlike people track this stuff because I'm an
f one dorc but there's people thatare levels up from me. He'll finish
dominating a race he wins by thirtyseconds, and then they'll see he logs
onto Eye racing off from him.Yeah. Yeah, he's racing on Ie
racing because he didn't get off racinghim. I guess he's a top ten
(33:20):
sim driver in the world. Yeah. But the videos he posts where uh
with with with pe with Penelopia,the name is yeah step daughter. Yeah,
like interrupts him. Well those yeah, yeah, those are really good.
Yeah, I really I enjoy Max. Even you haven't seen this.
This doesn't ruin anything for you.But he was screaming at his team today
and as soon as as soon asit was over, he was like,
(33:43):
I'm really sorry. You know,he's so self aware to the point and
he's just funny. Him and DanielRicardo crack me up together when they hang
out. Um, who else doI really like? I feel? I
mean, all the girls kind ofgo crazy for the Ferrari team. I
could take him, relieve, I'mlike you, I'm pick one. It's
a very important question, by theway, Yeah, take one. There's
(34:05):
a there's an answer that is correct. But okay, just that I personally
like or as my driver. Oharen't they one of the same? Or
no? No, all right,go ahead. I think I'd be more
likely to date Charles, but Ilike Carlos more because he's kind of a
jerk and I love that. Makeany sense? Yeah, why would you
(34:29):
date Charlot Clair instead of instead ofCarlos signs the smooth Operator Because I'm super
dorky and Charles is really dorky andI appreciate that he doesn't take himself too
seriously. Did you hear? Yes, I've heard both of them. I
also was on like a twitch livestream in a banana costume before Charles Leclair
(34:50):
because I'm also a Twitch streamer,so I did it first. Actually,
um, And I love that hismiddle name is Perceval. I feel like
that's sick. But Carlos, Ijust love that he thinks that he's the
best. He thinks that he's betterthan Charles, and he'll let them know
it. And I just kind ofhe's he's got a he's he's got a
set. He kind of he killsme. I love him. Yeah.
So for those that don't, again, for if you don't watch Formula one,
(35:15):
you're probably bailed. At this point. But for those who are sticking
with it, Ferrari is the DallasCowboys that Formula one right, they have
they should be the best car.They have two of the best drivers.
They always always always find a wayto things up, and it's just about
and it's and when they when theyFerrari it up, our our household goes
nuts because we're just waiting for thatmoment where they Ferrari up. And now
(35:36):
that two drivers just like yell attheir team over the ring, I think
Charles's gonna have it. He's gonnago postal on them at some point.
I okay, well here, let'sget into it. Since Cilia season seemed
to have started early. Do youthink that Charles is because I think Carlos
inevitably is going to Audie in twentytwenty five or twenty twenty six, whatever
it is. But do you thinkCharles will leave because they were obviously rumors
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maybe a month ago that he hadtalks with Red Bull. No, I
don't think you would sit in ared Bull, and I think Red Bull
red Bull's too cutthroat for him there. I mean, as they saw with
Nick Devs, like they give himten races and they were like, okay,
out of here. They did itto everybody. They did enter Table
Ricardo, they did it to AlexAlbon, they did it. They've done
everybody's consistent, right, So Ithink it's a little too cutthroat. I
(36:22):
could see him at Mercedes, butI think Lewis Hampson's got like three four
more years in him if they everfigure out how to fix that stupid car.
Yeah. Yeah, here's the thingthough, Like George Russell was Toto's
decision. Though, do you thinkthat Toto is going to give up on
him so quickly in order to haveCharles? But that's the only place I
can see him going, like uh, Like, I think I think McLaren
(36:45):
is very hot in McLaren's my team, by the way. I think they're
very McLaren with Lando and with Oscar. I agree they should be. Who
seems to have made the best decisionanyone career wise when he bounced out of
Alpine and went to My wife hatesOscar by the way, can't say Oscar's
oh yeah, he's the rookie ofthe year. Oh oh, definitely,
But she's such an Alpine fan thatshe hates his guts Now that's the great
(37:07):
thing about it. I don't know. You gotta do what you gotta do.
But where else is he gonna go? You don't want to take a
step down. I mean, II can't seem going to Aston Martin unless
Fernando retires. Fernando's gonna drive Lea'sone hundred. They're never gonna fire Lance
strolls. Yeah, exactly, kid, even though he sucks. So where
I can't Mercedes is the only placeI can see him going. Really,
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yeah, I just don't see themgiving up George's seat after one season because
Toto's stubborn. Oh no, Yeah, They're gonna have George forever. And
yeah, Lewis is there till he'sgone. So I think he's just gonna
happen. I think Lewis is gonnadrive forever man, Yeah, And I
think I think Ferrari was Charles likedream it is, yeah, because but
they're but yeah, so who knows? All right? So what what is?
(37:53):
What was it gonna ask you?So Max wins everybody's by thirty seconds?
We know this? What things doyou are? You do you most
look forward to on a race weekend? Do you watch like all the free
practices, qualify everything. Okay,just like me, So what occations my
favorite? Quality? Quality has beengreat this year, right, that's been
like better than the races, favoritepart of the weekend or yeah, definitely.
(38:15):
I mean if Max wasn't so dominant, the race is the best.
But because quality is kind of likefiguring out who's going to maybe come in
the top ten, maybe top five, That's kind of where I get my
enjoyment this season. Although I wishthat you had watched quality already today because
there's there's some stuff. Yeah,a lot of tea to be spilled,
(38:36):
A lot of tea, all right, all right, well this is a
people that listen to this twelve hoursor fifteen hours after recorded are very excited
for me to watch this two hoursfrom now. All right, So a
lot of tea to be spilled.He's going to be excited going forward.
What do you think, Sergio Perez? What do you think his future is
going to be? Because I loveChecho, but it's not going great for
(38:59):
him this year. I'm also aChecho hater. He's one of my I'm
anti check out, I'm a Chechohater. I when he was younger,
he was just kind of the worst, like he sucked, like he was
just a jerk and not in acool way, and then he finally won
in Monaco and I feel like he'skind of got his swagger back. But
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I don't like Checko one because Idon't like young Checho, and two I
think that it should have been himinstead of Nick. And three. As
good as Max is, I thinkthat you could have Lewis in the same
car and Max would still be dominating. Yeah, but the fact that he
is in the same car and strugglesto get out of Q three at times
makes me hate him even more becauseI could drive that spaceship better than he
(39:43):
has this season. I swear toGod, I love that you hate him
because he's not gonna get the Qthree Like well, he also was just
a jerk when he was a kidand not in a cool way. He
wasn't like Carlos signed smooth operator,like I think I'm the best driver ever,
I'm not gonna listen to my teamand I'm gonna go for a win
kind of cool. He's just lame. Kendra Middleton joins US from seventy five
different media outlets, including uh Saturdaysand Seltzers, which you can find on
(40:06):
your favorite podcast apps ninety five sportsup um and one hundred other places nesson
all winter long. Where where whereelse can we find you? We're running
out of time here, so whereelse can we find you? And?
Uh, what is your prediction forSunday's race? So? Um, you
can follow me on Twitter at KennyMiddleton, Tweet me all your f one
stuff, football stuff during the season, all of that. UM. You
(40:29):
can find me on Instagram at KendraMiddleton. There's eighty seven thousand other platforms.
Now, I promise you I haveall of them. They are linked
in all of my bios. Tryingto guy, I can't do threads though
all the things. UM for here'sthe thing. I think it's supposed to
be yet another rainy weekend at SPA. Shocker. SPA has, you know,
(40:52):
obviously some pretty tragic history with therain. UM, if it's a
sprint weekend, which it is,I or tomorrow, I like Charles.
If it's not one hundred percent clear, I think that also hurts Max's chances
a bit. I think that hecould maybe get some points in the sprint
tomorrow, especially with the confidence boosthe's really needed it. I think that
(41:13):
for his mental sanity especially needed,you know, a good a good weekend,
and then I would say Sunday,I'm expecting Max, and first I
also think the Ferraris and the McLarenscould see a podium, and then probably
Alonso. He's kind of due forone at this point I think, definitely,
Yeah, he's a Martin's fallen offa bit, but we all love
Fernando, all right. Last thingbefore I let you go, what a
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Formula one phrase has entered your anormal everyday lexicon on a regular basis.
For example, in our house wenow say weekend instead of weekend like we're
British, like we're Jensen button orsomething. What do you say that's Formula
one related in normal life? Ihave two. They're both Charles. One
is when he crashes it and hejust goes, I am stupid, and
(41:57):
then the other is incident. Ithink everyone says, InChI dent. Now
it was just it was just aninch dent. I'll let people look now
up and and I don't know ifI can say this. If I can't,
you can cut it out. Butwhen the key key a thing happen
with Daniel Ricardo and Max goes I'vegot sweaty balls, mate, I'll leave
(42:19):
it in see if I can findall right. All right, Kendram Middleton,
So great to catch up with you. Thanks for being on the show.
Yeah for sure. Welcome back toovertime pork and final segment of the
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(42:42):
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(43:06):
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Leading off is Dante Scala, Professorof political science at the University of New
Hampshire. We're gonna talk about Rodde Santis and why that's been a complete
disaster. Many did not predict that. I did, mostly because of how
I feel about De Santis's politics,But as it turns out, he's not
(01:15):
just not good at those either,he's not good at being a human being
on the campaign trail, So wetalk about that a bit. Also.
Kendram Middleton, old friend, joinsthe program. Kendra did some sideline reporting
for UNH football back on the day. Now she does like everything else.
She's on nesson on Dirty Water Media, she does sidelin reporting for Big East
(01:36):
Hockey, she's on the sports updown in Boston's pretty much everywhere. And
like me, she got bit bythe Formula one bug, and once that
bug bites you, there ain't nogetting rid of that narcotic So Formula one
is the topic with Kendra and I. That'll be coming up in the second
part of the program. So muchinterviewing going on, don't have a whole
(01:57):
whole lot of time for me tojust shoot the breeze with you, so
we'll take a quick break, comeback and talk to Dante Scalin next.
This is over time keep it herejoining us on overtime. I'm one of
the smartest dudes in not just NewHampshire, but I would say the nation
(02:21):
when it comes to political analysis andpolitical science. Dante Scala of you,
h what's up? Dante Bello jin? How are you? I'm great?
Where we got thirty nine days tokick off for the United football team.
I'm getting fired up to see.Well that's we thought it was gonna well,
not me personally, but many peoplethought I was gonna be a good
(02:43):
year for Ronda Santish with the Floridagovernor who decided to run for president.
Uh. He has had hit ofa week this week. Um, he
had to fire a bunch of staffers, he got in a car accident.
Uh. He today was spotted gettingon a private jet after firing a bunch
of people, which is always agreat look. And just like I think
about a half hour ago, Igot a tussle with the reporters about what
(03:06):
exactly is in the Florida Education Department'snew curriculum, which the Walk of the
short of the states that they haveto Florida to teach that there were some
benefits to enslave people for being enslaved, So quite a week for our guy,
Ronnie Dee. It's you know,he's I was one of those who
thought that he would be having abetter year than he's having, and he
(03:30):
started off that way. I mean, in January, he looked it looked
as if Donald Trump was on hisway to being done, and that just
Santas was ready to be the heirapparent, the successor and so forth.
And now he's, as you say, he's closer to third place than he
is to first place, both inyou know, important places like Iowa as
(03:52):
well as the nation. And I'vebeen thinking back and forth about whether actually
stopped buying to Santa's stock anytime,because people keep selling it to me and
I keep buying it. So nowI'm like, what do I do with
all is the Santa stuff that I'vegot stored up? The price is so
low, How could you resist Dante? Exactly? Yeah. Yeah, But
I mean I've seen primaries now foryou know, going on twenty five years,
(04:17):
and there have been a few caseswhere campaigns and candidates have been circling
the drain and I've thought they're done, it's over, and they've turned out
okay, you know, John Carreyin two thousand and four, John McCain
in two thousand and eight. SoI'm not entirely ready to hang it up
on Ron, but no question,it's looking really difficult. And he doesn't
(04:46):
have you know, he hasn't beeneight. It's it's another case justin where
the candid on paper doesn't reflect thecandidate in reality. And I even left,
don't a thing that happened. Ithink it was yesterday, were oh
my, yeah, yeah, Welllisten, I could pile if you want
(05:06):
to, if the whole show couldbe just piling on, just dunking on
Ron de Santis throughout three sixty windmilldunks. But maybe the people listen to
my show. We're here for that. But anyway, well, I think
it was Wednesday. There was aninterview released where he suggested that Robert F.
Kennedy Junior, in a De Santisadministration, could be the head of
the CDC or perhaps the FDA,which does Santi's manage to piss off both
(05:33):
sides of the aisle because rfk Jr. Is a crazy anti vaxer and also
is pro abortion. So he managedto make everybody mad at once, which
was quite a feat. Yeah,it's De Santis is having a hard time
figuring out who he wants to be, right, And this is another case
(05:56):
where you see a governor who hashad great local appeal reaching up to the
national level and floundering. And youknow, it's we saw this Scott Walker,
for example, back in twenty sixteen. He looked like the next the
next great hope, and we're seeingit now. And what striking is of
(06:21):
all the candidates, De Santas seemto have the best rationale right that I
could. I can deliver all thegood things about Trump is m without being
Donald Trump. And turns out alot of Republicans are perfectly happy with trump
(06:43):
Ism only when it comes from DonaldTrump himself, Like Donald Trump is an
essential part of the package. Right, I'm gonna soapbox here just for an
You can agree or disagree or punton this, but just with with these
descends specifically. But these Republican governorsthat had their little fiefdom, you know,
(07:04):
in their states where people know themand they can do these I'll call
them fascist things, where like theythey they rail against trans and gay folks
and really kind of trying to eraseblack history. I think that works if
you're in your own state where peopleknow you, and you know the people
that have you know, people havevoted for you before and kind of are
(07:26):
use to your idiosyncracies and quirks.Uh. The brand of politics Trump springs,
you know, is kind of thesame thing. It's it's a lot
clumsier, it's uh, it's alot more bombastic. But Trump was also
a celebrity for thirty five years beforehe started, you know, doing these
sorts of sorts of you know,actions where you know, trying to overthrow
(07:47):
the elected government United States, thingslike that. So people that got to
know and like Trump got to knowhim for decades before you know, he
was on the scene asking for theirvote. Right, if you're out side
of Florida, maybe you've heard ofround to Save This here and there,
but you don't really know him.I mean, if I'm an average Trump
voter, I know Donald Trump.I seen him on my TV for all
(08:09):
this time. You know, Itrust him. Why would I vote for
this h this guy with a weirdwhite boots one of Florida that kids seemed
to act right in public? Yeah, I mean there are a lot of
I mean, there are a lotof Trump voters out there who liked Trump
but seemed open to alternatives, right, and so how do you how do
(08:30):
you reach those voters in particular,and the Santas when he was governor sometimes
when he started off, was kindof this blend of conservative policies and more
moderate policies. But then when hebegan running nationally against Trump, he seemed
to think, you know, theonly way to a clips Trump is to
(08:54):
run hard to his right. Andone of the under some things about Trump
was his ability to be all thingsto all kinds of different Republicans, right,
to kind of break Republican orthodoxy onthings like social security. And DeSantis
(09:18):
has just been, you know,run to the right, and then when
that didn't work, Yeah, there'sjust been a I mean it's really been
difficult for me. I mean,we've been watching this very painful reset,
and this reset seems to have lastedweeks now, and you know, you
hope that you're going to get allthe bad news over with at once,
(09:43):
Like I remember with John McCain backin two thousand and seven. You know,
all the bad news came pretty quickly, and then there was John McCain,
by his lonely self, flying upto New Hampshire and then he went
quiet for a while. Right.And but DeSantis, it guess seems like
this because keeps this story justus keepson giving to the media that are circling
(10:07):
him. Yeah, and it didn'thelp. But it came out last week
that, you know, like Isaid, the Florida Board of Education's new
curriculum that says you have to ithas to be taught, that there were
some benefit to enslave people being enslaved. I mean, that's you know,
for I think I think even forRepublican voters who do like to fight in
these culture wars, there's a lineof demarcations like, yeah, we want
(10:30):
to we we we care about beingsocially conservative, but we don't want to
look like, for lack of abetter term, a holes, right,
Like like people like me who aresocially way far to the left think kind
of paint all those people with thesame brush. But I think there's nuances
within the Republican Party where they say, yeah, we would like to fight
(10:50):
the culture wars, but we don'twant to fight that dirty. And I
think that's where DeSantis has kind ofgot himself into trouble a bit. Plus
Donald Trump. For as much asI don't like him and a lot of
people don't like him, he hasa personality. He has something people can
grasp onto and Ron de Santis justdoesn't seem to have any of that.
And the latest reset is, well, let Ron be Ron. I think
(11:11):
that's been the problem. It's youknow, I mean watching the Santis and
in New Hampshire and then comparing himto say, you know, two of
his competitors, like Tim Scott.You know, saw I saw Tim Scott
at a town hall recently. Andyou see Tim Scott and even if you're
(11:31):
a Democrat, you say, youknow what, I kind of like the
guy. He's very positive, he'supbeat, he shakes your hand, he's
willing to take a selfie, hepokes fun at himself. He seems to
be having a good time being aconservative, which seems like an increasingly rare
thing these days. Right, Soyou go listen to theay Grandmaswami and here's
(11:56):
somebody who you know, you candisagree with him, to be sure,
but he seems to have a visionfor the country as young as he is,
and it's a very conservative vision,no doubt. But again, contrast
that with DeSantis. De Santists oftenseemed to my mind like, okay,
this is that, like you boughtthe paint Fine numbers kit about how to
(12:20):
become the Republican nominee, and aslong as he diligently does that, he
doesn't have to do any of theextras. And it's really been something to
watch him go from these big eventswhere he doesn't take a single question to
now he's willing to do house parties. Yeah, and you know, basically
(12:41):
it's this it's this classic you knowreset where you go back and you try
to start all over again. It'sand maybe maybe in the end, justin
he'll be able to pull this off. But you just look at all the
wasted time, Like i mean,half of the year's over, and he
started off really as the co frontrunner, and now you know he's really
(13:03):
he's settling back with the rest ofthe pack. Talking to Dante h professor
of political science and all around agood guy to your point, Dante,
Uh, you know when Mike Pencecalls into to New Hampshire today and I'm
the guy that has to answer thephone and like talk to the guests before
they come on the air and haveto deal with the ordeal that is being
interviewed by Chris Bryan. But whenwhen Mike pants, when Mike Pence calls
(13:26):
in, Like I find Mike Pence'spolitics and policies to be reprehensible, but
when I talk to him, justis you know, like one guy talking
to another. He's very pleasant totalk to, like, oh, how
are you justin? How's it going? How's everything in New Hampshire? You
know, and there's like, youknow, that's it sounds cheesy, but
there's something to be said for likehaving like a human moment with somebody.
(13:46):
And Ron just Santas just does notseem to be capable thus far of having
any type of human moments with anybody. I's thinking about what you just said,
right, incapable of madity, Right, it's quite an indictment, right,
And it's just, um, Imean, here's someone who it turns
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out, right that all the badstories, you know, it turned out
to be true, and it's interms of his limited ability to interact with
people and so forth. And youknow the question is, you know,
will you be able to kind ofbreak through all that? Um? But
it's a classic you know, frontrunners dilemma and he became the front runner
(14:35):
and took on that aura, andhe seemed to take on all the prerogatives
and privileges without ever actually being thereal front runner. Right, And meanwhile
there's Trump, and you know,and Trump seems, you know, very
serious about being the nominee in away that his campaign wasn't eight years ago.
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I mean, they're they're I meanthey're really You look at what they're
doing on things like party delegate selection, and they're dotting their eyes and crossing
their teas on all these little things. Well, the presidency might be the
only thing he keeps him from theinside of a jail cell. So I
feel like if that were my onlyoption from doing like a like an eight
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year bit, I might be prettyserious to dote that would that's a focusing
effect on the mind. Yeah,I could, I could see that.
But I mean it's um all thissaid, it's it gets back to the
question. I mean, if itwere easy to de throne Trump, someone
would have done it by him.Now sure, And I look at the
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rest of the field, and youknow, Tim Scott is a really nice
fellow, and but I saw himfor an hour, you know, an
hour and a half at a townhall, and I didn't come away thinking,
ah, this first has the cheapcode for beating Donald Trump. In
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fact, it didn't especially look likehe was really interested in finding the cheap
code to beat Donald Trump. Youknow, Nicky Haley's out there saying,
hey, I was with him,I was with Trump, but now I'm
not. I'm not sure what herration now is for being the nominee instead
of Trump. With Mike Pence,I can see it, but it's you
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know, I look around and say, well, okay, who you know.
With Vegue, I can see it. I mean when he says I'll
do better than Trump did, likeI will be Donald Trump. And in
some ways the Santists should have kindof taken a lesson from him, right,
But even Vega is very very deferentialto Trump, like there's no one
(16:48):
Chris Chrissy. But the Trump peopleseemed to hate him so much that they
won't, you know, won't votefrom under any circumstances. But he seems
to be the only Republican that saysI'll do better than Trump. And also,
here's all the reasons you shouldn't votefor Trump. It seems like the
Republican field is like, well,I'll do better than Trump. But Trump
is actually really great, and eventhough he was really great, you should
vote for me instead of him.It's like it's like I have an r
(17:11):
C Cola, and this r Ccola is is great. It's not as
good as Coca Cola, which isright over here, but you should take
this RC cola anyway, Like yougotta you gotta market yourself as something other
than r C cola, Right,Yeah, And you know, just in
the more time i spender in theTrump era, and the longer I'm wrong
about Trump, Like I don't knowhow many times I've thought and even said,
(17:34):
well, this is the last thisis this is the time that Republicans
would attast themselves from Donald Trump andso forth. I've just come to the
conclusion, you know, maybe wejust live in bizarre world and Trump is
bizarre. O'reagan, And I mean, now he's been he's been the center
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trope figure of Republican politics going ona decade, right, just like Ronald
Reagan was the central figure of histime really from the late seventies through the
nineteen eighties. I mean Trump,I mean set aside policy accomplishments and so
forth, but just in terms ofstaying power. I mean that's Trump is
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rivaling Reagan at this point, andpeople are used to Trump, as odd
as that sounds, and will allthese multiple indictments and so forth ultimately convince
us enough people to detach themselves andsay, I really like Trump, but
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no I don't. I talked toJoe Walsh about this last week and we
agreed, Trump, if he's sittinginto jail cell, we'll still win the
nomination. He'll buddy Seancy this thingand be able to win the nomination from
prison because the people that love himto there's nothing you can do or nothing
he can do either that will justwith them of that notion. And this
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was kind of the deal Republicans made. I made this analogy with with Dean
Spiliotis. It was like buying aparent, right, you think of buying
a parent, It's like, oh, it's great, mae. You know
it'll copy once you say, it'llbe entertaining, it'll be fun, and
it's a good time until you realizethe parent lives for forty years and you've
got to have that parrot until it'sgone forty years from now, and it's
not gonna be forty years of Trump. But the effects might be but it's
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gonna be you know, if heif he doesn't win the nomination this time
around, I have no reason tothink he won't. But if he doesn't,
he's definitely gonna run as a thirdparty. He's not gonna go quietly.
And if he loses the general election, who's to say, we're not
doing this again in twenty twenty eight. Yeah, now that's um, that's
sobering thought. But it's it's avery real possibility. And and for de
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Santists, it's just, you know, it is he does feel like the
like the Coke zero compared to Trump, right, you can have. But
the thing is that people, youknow, it's it's almost as if he's
saying, well, I'm like I'llbeat Trump and I'm better for you,
and people people like all the caloriesthat come with Trump, and there's they
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like all the over the topness.They like being part of the party that
comes with Trump, and that's toughto duplicates. And with the Santists,
it's like, who are you actually? You know, I guess seems very
you guess seems very flat in comparisonwith the person he's trying to replace.
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We're talking to unh before we'll letyou go. Dante two questions. One
well, I'll ask the first thisone first and then gets to the second
one. The second one Celtics related. But how has how has the Trump
era in his invincibility against so theRepublicans changed how you look at teaching a
political science course. Have you hadto like rethink the entire thing, or
(20:57):
is do you just treat this aslike a unicorns and then an only to
your students. I think I startedjustin with the unicorn theory, and I've
slowly but surely come to grips withthe fact that there's no going back,
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right, there's only going through.So as tempting as it is to say,
well, this was a one offand so forth, I do think
that, you know, I don'tthink we'll ever see the Republican Party of
Mitt Romney and George Bush again.And that's what makes you know, the
Nicky Haley's and the Chris Christie's too, sound like they're you know, people
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at a time. You know.Fergus Cullen wrote this thing for New Journal
recently that kind of said, looksit sounds like Nicky Haley is kind of
trapped in this time war and it'stwenty eleven all over again, and there's
just no you know, I guessthink there's no going back. And for
my students there, this is alllike, this is how things are,
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whereas I'm old enough to think toknow it was different at one point,
and sometimes that's more of an obstacleto understanding how things are now. Yeah,
I can only imagine. All right, last thing before let you go,
Jaylen Brown signs a supermax contract,which is I think he would have
signed a two weeks ago, butthey put it on his left and he
can't go to his left. Whatdo you think of the Jaylen Brown signing?
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I'm I'm pleased. Let's let's runit back, Let's let's get tabled
and turn out. Well, Imean, what were the alternatives when in
the schelf right? I mean,what what what could you get for Brown
that would ever placed him? Ihope he's working on his ball handling scales,
but um um optimistic. I'm keepingmy fingers crossed about porzingis Yeah,
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that we'll all you know, thatwill kind of get a better offense coming
out. We're still wearing a blackarmband from Marcus Smart in my household.
But I understand this all. MissMarcus two sometimes, but I will miss
you. I will missen in thelast five minutes of a game shooting threes
if there's a Q and on formMarcus Smart, I am the guy with
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the Viking helmet on for that.So Dante Scott, University of Hampshire Political
Science Professor granted prof on Twitter,thanks so much for being on the show.
You're welcome. Joining me today onovertime is Kendra Middleton, who's on
five thousand media things, including herpodcast Saturdays and Seltzer's. You can hear
(23:41):
her on ninety eighty five The Sportsof Catch on Nesson on Dirty Water Media.
What else, Kendron? What amI forgetting? There's like three hundred
things? What else do you do? I know? Yeah, you can
catch me during my college season onNessan as well doing some college hockey stuff.
Um pll if you care about lacrossepretty much, that's sometimes on DraftKings.
I guess. So you can catchme on all those places. Is
(24:02):
that all? That's it? That'sall you're I think so, I think
that's it at the moment. Offtopic, but do you know my boy
Liam Murphy who works for PLL.He does like all a bunch of their
media stuff. I do know Liam, Yeah, soci. I covered Liam
when he was a high school hockeyplayer. That's how old I am.
And now he's so funny. Yeah. Now he's like the lacrosse coached over
high and does all their like allsorts of media stuff for them, and
(24:22):
he's killing it. Yeah awesome.So instead of Kendrick's seven hundred jobs,
what I've asked Kendrick to talk aboutis Formula one, which, as my
audience knows, is a big passionof mine. Yeah. Where did you
start watching Kendrick? Because I,like a lot of people caught it during
the pandemic. By what? Okay, my wife, my daughter, my
brother in law, myself, weall now have like a family F one
(24:45):
chat. We started watching Driver Surviveabout a bang. We were hooked.
What about you? That's awesome.So I actually got into it because my
girlfriends are like huge into F oneand anytime you can find a girlfriend group
in sports, I don't care whatit is like, I'll get into it.
And I was so sick. I'mtired of them always talking about f
one drive to survive all that stuff, and I binged it, got into
(25:06):
it, started watching races. I'mhooked. It's pretty much my entire feed
on every social media platform at thispoint. I have gone on a couple
of podcasts talking about F one.I'm in group chats on Twitter. I'm
kind of just so in deep onthe lore now. It's wild. It
takes it like like you suddenly oneday, it takes over your whole life.
(25:26):
You're like, well, I reallydoes. I gotta watch practice on
Friday, and I gotta watch Qualityand if I have to schedule up right
now, right, yeah, infull disclosure, I have to wait until
my wife gets home from work takingthis on Friday after wait till Bernie gets
home from work to watch this morning'squalifying session, and my daughter will not
let us watch it and then pretendwe didn't watch it. So I'm kind
of blind. This is what happenedin Quality, So we want to talk
(25:48):
about that. About this. Youcan't even get on Twitter. No,
I've been on Twitter at like sixhours. It's terrible. Wow, Yeah,
dedication homes, But go ahead,Okay, but did you about the
big news? I know you probablydon't know who placed where, But there
is something we had to talk aboutbecause it's one of the biggest things that's
happened. Did you hear what,Max? Yeah? The grid, the
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grid penaltiers or something. Yeah,with his gearbox. Yeah, it doesn't,
but it does if you're a betterHis odds go from like minus seven
hundred to minus six fifty or whathe's well, yeah, now he's not
gonna win by thirty seconds, He'sgoin by ten. I don't know.
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That's a big track so forever,the one that spa Franco Schamps this weekend
in Belgium. And yeah, Maxfor stopping. For those of you not
familiar with what happened, but bythe time you have this errors you probably
will be. He had to changea few parts in his gearbox. You
only get four or five gear boxesper year, so he's a five place
grid penally the last year Max,I think started fourteenth at spawn still one.
So he's he's inevitable, he's standings, he's dominant. Fuck what I
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tell people who aren't into F one, Kidron, and you, being a
college football fan, you can mayberelate to this. F one's a lot
like college football. You know who'sgonna win every year. There's a bunch
of millionaires being super petty with eachother. The memes are outstanding, and
you just watch the memes are reallygood. The memes are really good.
I think that F one's a littlebit more likable than SEC football or college
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football or you know, let's callit what it is, it's SEC football.
But because there's so few drivers,there's ten teams, twenty drivers,
you get to know the drivers sointimately if you really follow it, and
I think that that's the thing thatmakes F one so different, outside of
the fact that half the time they'resetting up tracks around major cities. That's
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like the cool thing about F oneto me is that if you watch races
or you travel for F one orwhatever, not only do you get to
go see a sport, but youalso get a vacation because F one is
only in cool places. So thefact that you just get to know the
tracks and the drivers so intimately iswhat I find attractive about F one,
because you know, it is asport, turn left, whatever. But
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I enjoy it because I like thedrivers, and there are drivers that I
don't like and drivers that I dolike. But that's how you get.
That's how you get so addicted toF one is because you get addicted to
like how closely you feel this bondis with the drivers and the team and
just the guys who even change theirfreaking tires sometimes, right, yeah,
like the what is it? Ferrarihas the mechanic who's like, yes,
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he's all swollen therap God, yes, all right. So that leads me
to this question because my daughter hasa similar thing. My daughter don't watch
any other sports, right, shewatches No don't care about football, basketball
though, that is full on inon F one, And one of the
things she loves most about it ishating George Russell. She hates. I
hate George Russell. Oh my god, I got introduce. What is it
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about George? You hate he?This is so mean, but I don't
really care you. We've known eachother for years, you know whatever.
I'm just gonna say it. Heis white bread. He just if I
could describe white bread and human being, it would be George Russell Russell.
He's just so boring, bland.It's not that he I don't want to
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say he's unlikable because he's not reallya villain. He's just I forget he
exists. I texted my friend Abbythis morning in our girls f one group
chat and I said, she goessometimes I forget Land Stroll exists. And
I said, I forget that GeorgeRussell exists. Yeah, he's he's a
he's a nanny sandwich on whitebread witha glass of milk on the side,
right, And yeah, I wouldn'teven give him the milk. But not
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only that, he like whatever hedoes something wrong. Whenever he smashes into
somebody, when he like steams intoa turn and takes out Sergio Perez,
he acts as though, you know, he's never done anything wrong in his
life. My daughter hates because thedriver to survive, he came out of
the car and slap beltery boat tossupside the head. So yeah, I
remember that we all hate George Russell. Oh guy, I love that you
hate him? Who else? Who? Wilson The Grid is not one of
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Kendra Middleton's favorites. Pierre not aPierre. You're doing Pierre? I hate
Pierre? Do you eat Pierre?A couple of reasons. This is real
tea. He's twenty seven and hisgirlfriend's eighteen. That's yeah, that's probably
weird. I did read that.Um, he's got some problematic like old
tweets and Instagram stuff. He's alsoyeah, he's also just kind of a
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sissy. I don't know if yousaw everything that happened with Carlos things last
week in him where he like thoughtthat Carlos impeded him or whatever and like
went online and decided to have Twitterfingers or whatever. It's just like grow
up. He does do a bitof a thing where, yeah, whenever
things go wrong and Alpine is acomplete bleep show right now, they just
they're firing I know Atmar and theother dude that's one of their technical directors.
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But whenever, whenever something goes wrong, he does like get on Instagram
and post the video like, ohlook at this, and a lot of
people like, I don't know whatI'm looking at here, Pierre, but
this is I'm gonna have to keepthis, uh, this interview away from
Reneemo Kasac because she is all inon Alpine. She's an esteban and Pierre
fan I love Stie Bestie. Seeeverybody loves Stie Bestie. Pierre's the Kevin
(31:03):
Durant of f one. Yeah that'sthat's yes, he said, he hasn't
want anything yet. He's won onerace a couple of years ago, but
that's it. Yeah, he isKevin Durant when he was in out West
the first time, when he waswith a thunder I got you. Yeah
all right, yeah yeah, whenhe still had Twitter burners, total rabbity
ears. Here's about him. Okay, all right, I can see that.
(31:26):
All right? Who are some ofyour favorites before I uh, before
I let you before I tell youmy favorite? Sorry? Yeah, who
got all? You said? Youlove Yuki Sonoda. I love Yuki.
He's kind of a king. Yes, I just I love that he's like
five foot four and like the angriesthuman alive, but also just adorable and
terrified of sharks and helped clean upafter the floods in Italy. Like he's
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just an enigma. Um. Ilove Yuki immediately. Like his first race
where he where he scored point.I think he scored points his first race,
but his whole team radio and ifyou don't watch F one, basically
you can see everything that's said betweenthe teams and used to be between the
official stupid Yuki was just he's he'slike Kendrick said, he's a tiny little
Japanese man who does nothing but swearnot awesome. Oh my god, he's
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so great, and then it's awesome. Yeah he's he's the best. But
who else is on your on yourfaces list? I love Lando, He's
becoming a favorite for me. Everybodyloves Daniel Ricardo. I do love Max.
I know people hate on Max.I'm actually a max apologist. Yeah
he's Yeah, he's the best.Yeah, he wins. Yeah, he's
kind of a jerk about it.But he's also just not At the same
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time, he's so misunderstood and sofunny. I don't know, fothered too.
He is, and he loves Hejust wants to go home and hang
out with his cats. He wantsto kick everybody's ass and hang out with
his cats. And that's awesome tome. Jimmy and Sassy the Bengal cats.
So how have you seen him withthe hammer when he beat his own
door and to get his cat out. Yeah, it's just so likable.
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Yeah. The most likable things aboutMax are like the he posts. He's
such a racing dorc Max Verstappen thatlike people track this stuff because I'm an
f one dorc but there's people thatare levels up from me. He'll finish
dominating a race he wins by thirtyseconds, and then they'll see he logs
onto Eye racing off from him.Yeah. Yeah, he's racing on Ie
racing because he didn't get off racinghim. I guess he's a top ten
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sim driver in the world. Yeah. But the videos he posts where uh
with with with pe with Penelopia,the name is yeah step daughter. Yeah,
like interrupts him. Well those yeah, yeah, those are really good.
Yeah, I really I enjoy Max. Even you haven't seen this.
This doesn't ruin anything for you.But he was screaming at his team today
and as soon as as soon asit was over, he was like,
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I'm really sorry. You know,he's so self aware to the point and
he's just funny. Him and DanielRicardo crack me up together when they hang
out. Um, who else doI really like? I feel? I
mean, all the girls kind ofgo crazy for the Ferrari team. I
could take him, relieve, I'mlike you, I'm pick one. It's
a very important question, by theway, Yeah, take one. There's
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a there's an answer that is correct. But okay, just that I personally
like or as my driver. Oharen't they one of the same? Or
no? No, all right,go ahead. I think I'd be more
likely to date Charles, but Ilike Carlos more because he's kind of a
jerk and I love that. Makeany sense? Yeah, why would you
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date Charlot Clair instead of instead ofCarlos signs the smooth Operator Because I'm super
dorky and Charles is really dorky andI appreciate that he doesn't take himself too
seriously. Did you hear? Yes, I've heard both of them. I
also was on like a twitch livestream in a banana costume before Charles Leclair
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because I'm also a Twitch streamer,so I did it first. Actually,
um, And I love that hismiddle name is Perceval. I feel like
that's sick. But Carlos, Ijust love that he thinks that he's the
best. He thinks that he's betterthan Charles, and he'll let them know
it. And I just kind ofhe's he's got a he's he's got a
set. He kind of he killsme. I love him. Yeah.
So for those that don't, again, for if you don't watch Formula one,
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you're probably bailed. At this point. But for those who are sticking
with it, Ferrari is the DallasCowboys that Formula one right, they have
they should be the best car.They have two of the best drivers.
They always always always find a wayto things up, and it's just about
and it's and when they when theyFerrari it up, our our household goes
nuts because we're just waiting for thatmoment where they Ferrari up. And now
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that two drivers just like yell attheir team over the ring, I think
Charles's gonna have it. He's gonnago postal on them at some point.
I okay, well here, let'sget into it. Since Cilia season seemed
to have started early. Do youthink that Charles is because I think Carlos
inevitably is going to Audie in twentytwenty five or twenty twenty six, whatever
it is. But do you thinkCharles will leave because they were obviously rumors
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maybe a month ago that he hadtalks with Red Bull. No, I
don't think you would sit in ared Bull, and I think Red Bull
red Bull's too cutthroat for him there. I mean, as they saw with
Nick Devs, like they give himten races and they were like, okay,
out of here. They did itto everybody. They did enter Table
Ricardo, they did it to AlexAlbon, they did it. They've done
everybody's consistent, right, So Ithink it's a little too cutthroat. I
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could see him at Mercedes, butI think Lewis Hampson's got like three four
more years in him if they everfigure out how to fix that stupid car.
Yeah. Yeah, here's the thingthough, Like George Russell was Toto's
decision. Though, do you thinkthat Toto is going to give up on
him so quickly in order to haveCharles? But that's the only place I
can see him going, like uh, Like, I think I think McLaren
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is very hot in McLaren's my team, by the way. I think they're
very McLaren with Lando and with Oscar. I agree they should be. Who
seems to have made the best decisionanyone career wise when he bounced out of
Alpine and went to My wife hatesOscar by the way, can't say Oscar's
oh yeah, he's the rookie ofthe year. Oh oh, definitely,
But she's such an Alpine fan thatshe hates his guts Now that's the great
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thing about it. I don't know. You gotta do what you gotta do.
But where else is he gonna go? You don't want to take a
step down. I mean, II can't seem going to Aston Martin unless
Fernando retires. Fernando's gonna drive Lea'sone hundred. They're never gonna fire Lance
strolls. Yeah, exactly, kid, even though he sucks. So where
I can't Mercedes is the only placeI can see him going. Really,
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yeah, I just don't see themgiving up George's seat after one season because
Toto's stubborn. Oh no, Yeah, They're gonna have George forever. And
yeah, Lewis is there till he'sgone. So I think he's just gonna
happen. I think Lewis is gonnadrive forever man, Yeah, And I
think I think Ferrari was Charles likedream it is, yeah, because but
they're but yeah, so who knows? All right? So what what is?
(37:53):
What was it gonna ask you?So Max wins everybody's by thirty seconds?
We know this? What things doyou are? You do you most
look forward to on a race weekend? Do you watch like all the free
practices, qualify everything. Okay,just like me, So what occations my
favorite? Quality? Quality has beengreat this year, right, that's been
like better than the races, favoritepart of the weekend or yeah, definitely.
(38:15):
I mean if Max wasn't so dominant, the race is the best.
But because quality is kind of likefiguring out who's going to maybe come in
the top ten, maybe top five, That's kind of where I get my
enjoyment this season. Although I wishthat you had watched quality already today because
there's there's some stuff. Yeah,a lot of tea to be spilled,
(38:36):
A lot of tea, all right, all right, well this is a
people that listen to this twelve hoursor fifteen hours after recorded are very excited
for me to watch this two hoursfrom now. All right, So a
lot of tea to be spilled.He's going to be excited going forward.
What do you think, Sergio Perez? What do you think his future is
going to be? Because I loveChecho, but it's not going great for
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him this year. I'm also aChecho hater. He's one of my I'm
anti check out, I'm a Chechohater. I when he was younger,
he was just kind of the worst, like he sucked, like he was
just a jerk and not in acool way, and then he finally won
in Monaco and I feel like he'skind of got his swagger back. But
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I don't like Checko one because Idon't like young Checho, and two I
think that it should have been himinstead of Nick. And three. As
good as Max is, I thinkthat you could have Lewis in the same
car and Max would still be dominating. Yeah, but the fact that he
is in the same car and strugglesto get out of Q three at times
makes me hate him even more becauseI could drive that spaceship better than he
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has this season. I swear toGod, I love that you hate him
because he's not gonna get the Qthree Like well, he also was just
a jerk when he was a kidand not in a cool way. He
wasn't like Carlos signed smooth operator,like I think I'm the best driver ever,
I'm not gonna listen to my teamand I'm gonna go for a win
kind of cool. He's just lame. Kendra Middleton joins US from seventy five
different media outlets, including uh Saturdaysand Seltzers, which you can find on
(40:06):
your favorite podcast apps ninety five sportsup um and one hundred other places nesson
all winter long. Where where whereelse can we find you? We're running
out of time here, so whereelse can we find you? And?
Uh, what is your prediction forSunday's race? So? Um, you
can follow me on Twitter at KennyMiddleton, Tweet me all your f one
stuff, football stuff during the season, all of that. UM. You
(40:29):
can find me on Instagram at KendraMiddleton. There's eighty seven thousand other platforms.
Now, I promise you I haveall of them. They are linked
in all of my bios. Tryingto guy, I can't do threads though
all the things. UM for here'sthe thing. I think it's supposed to
be yet another rainy weekend at SPA. Shocker. SPA has, you know,
(40:52):
obviously some pretty tragic history with therain. UM, if it's a
sprint weekend, which it is,I or tomorrow, I like Charles.
If it's not one hundred percent clear, I think that also hurts Max's chances
a bit. I think that hecould maybe get some points in the sprint
tomorrow, especially with the confidence boosthe's really needed it. I think that
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for his mental sanity especially needed,you know, a good a good weekend,
and then I would say Sunday,I'm expecting Max, and first I
also think the Ferraris and the McLarenscould see a podium, and then probably
Alonso. He's kind of due forone at this point I think, definitely,
Yeah, he's a Martin's fallen offa bit, but we all love
Fernando, all right. Last thingbefore I let you go, what a
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Formula one phrase has entered your anormal everyday lexicon on a regular basis.
For example, in our house wenow say weekend instead of weekend like we're
British, like we're Jensen button orsomething. What do you say that's Formula
one related in normal life? Ihave two. They're both Charles. One
is when he crashes it and hejust goes, I am stupid, and
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then the other is incident. Ithink everyone says, InChI dent. Now
it was just it was just aninch dent. I'll let people look now
up and and I don't know ifI can say this. If I can't,
you can cut it out. Butwhen the key key a thing happen
with Daniel Ricardo and Max goes I'vegot sweaty balls, mate, I'll leave
(42:19):
it in see if I can findall right. All right, Kendram Middleton,
So great to catch up with you. Thanks for being on the show.
Yeah for sure. Welcome back toovertime pork and final segment of the
show. And of course we arerunning out of the show as what usually
happens. By thanks to my guests. Gotte Scala from the University of New
Hampshire, professor of political science.All around, uh smart dude, one
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of the smartest dudes I know.Kendram Middleton, one of the most entertaining
people I know who is like Isaid, on seventeen different media outlets including
Nesson you can hear her on actuallyher she was on the sports Ub right
before this aired on news Radio ninetysix seven and news Radio sixteen. So
if you if you scour the sportsHub enough, you'll find Kendra or on
Essen or wherever So's She's pretty mucheverywhere as well. My thanks to those
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two for coming on the show.I have a whole lot of stuff to
talk about as far as media thingsand sports things and football things. But
because of the show's four segments thatI chew up so much time talking to
people that are smarter than me.I don't have a whole lot of time
for me to sound dumb, Sowe're gonna have to put that off to
another day. We're also thinking about, and by we, I mean me
(43:27):
doing some bonus content that's podcast only, So that might be coming up over
the next few weeks where you getpodcast stuff only, so even more incentive
to subscribe to the podcast, asif there wasn't already by me telling you
to week after week after week.But like I said, just search for
overtime with Justin mckensick, like thepodcast, give us five stars, all
out of other stuff until next week. I hope you'll join us next Saturday
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at ten am. And don't forgetpoison girls. Hippies are bad people pretending
to be good. Pumps are goodpeople pretending to be bad. Seeing a Queen
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