July 8, 2023 • 44 mins
Ryan Nanni of The Shutdown Fullcast joins me to discuss the level of Dad I might reach driving to Indiana to watch bowling, plus a look at where College Football might be going in the future, and anything to expect this year that might catch our eye.
PlusI rant a bit about how parenting correctly is like being in jail, and all the social media chaos this week.
PlusI rant a bit about how parenting correctly is like being in jail, and all the social media chaos this week.
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Welcome to over Time. I'm yourhumble and devastatingly handsome hosts. Justin mcconsick.
Overtime the only show to have violatedthree different Geneva Convention accords, which
is I feel like that's a record. This week on over Time, we
talked to Ryan Nanny of The ShutdownFull Cast or does the Shutdown full Cast?
It is the Internet's only college footballpodcast, And uh, there's really
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no As I discussed with Ryan,there's really no way to explain what the
Shutdown Full Cast is. You justhave to listen to it and decide for
yourself if it's your thing or not. It's it's it's definitely my thing,
and if you're a sicko that listensto this show in a regular basis,
it will probably end up be yourthing because there's there's some similarities as far
as as far as humor, asfar as randomness, as far as a
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lot of stuff goes. So we'lltalk to Ryan Nanny. I we'll talk
to Ryan about Dad's stuff, alsowant to expect this college football season,
and we talk about a little bitabout what exactly the Shutdown Full Cast is.
Ryan Ryan's He's hilarious and I'm lookingforward to sharing that interview with you.
In fact, we'll take a quickbreak here, come back and give
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you that interview. Ryan Nanny ofThe Shutdown Full Cast coming up in just
a little bit here on Overtime,keep it here, joining us Stilly on
Overtime is one of the members ofone of my favorite podcasts, The Shutdown
Full Cast, Ryan Nanny. Ryan, I've tried to explain to people exactly
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what the Shutdown full Cast is andwhy they should listen to it, and
then I get about like two linesin, I'm like, just have to
trust me. You just have tolisten to it obsensively. It's about college
football, and sometimes it is,but a lot of times it's not.
Well, how do you describe theShutdown Fullcast to people who haven't heard it?
I struggle the same way you do. Like, I'm not going to
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pretend like I have my elevator pitchfor this down. I think the best
way is to say that The ShutdownFull Cast is a college football podcast that
takes college football as seriously as wedecide that it should be taken. And
so when we record an episode inJune, yeah, there's probably not going
to be much college football on thereat all, right, so yeah,
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and also on Saturday nights, whichis way too late for me because I
get up to early. There's thethe fullcast after dark, which is,
yeah, which is a good recapof the day. Yeah. Yeah,
that that tends to be at leastmore football oriented because it has happened,
like right in the middle of thefootball day coming to an end. So
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yeah, I don't. I mean, maybe the best way to explain the
Shutdown fullcast is it's a trust exercisemasquerading as a college football podcast. So
there's someone blindfolded falling backwards into people'sarms. That's right. This is the
audio version of that. Yeah,so how And I won't ask you about
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the podcast for too much longer,but one, have you guys been doing
this because it's you, it's forpeople that haven't heard it. It's Spencer
Hall, who's on ESPN a bunchnow, Jason Kirk Andholly Anderson And yeah,
it's obvious, you know the fird. I think I got into it
about right before cope, maybe twentynineteen or twenty eighteen, um, with
my college football fit. Coincidentally,my college football fandom picked up when I
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got a job in college football.But but you guys have been doing this
forever. I think Jason and Spencerwere the originators. But how did how
long have you been doing this andhow did it really come together? So
it it has existed in some formor fashion for now over ten years,
which is a horrifying thing to say. Uh. It stemmed out of a
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YouTube series that Jason and Spencer didum that was very weird, very like
adult swim is kind of the bestway to describe it. That got turned
Like videos expensive to do and requireslike a lot of planning and production.
But as I think most people wholisten to podcasts now like frequently, podcasts
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don't require any of those things.And it sort of got redirected into a
podcast that I joined up with andHolly joined up with shortly thereafter, and
it's just sort of has gone whereverit's gone from then without found any real
intentionality or planning. Well, it'sit's certainly one of my favorite podcasts,
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and I'm not alone in that inthat, so I hope people will will
check it out. Before I askyou a little bit about college football,
I asked I have a dad question, because so I'm I have my daughter's
eighteen, my son's nineteen, myson's college, my daughter just graduated from
high school. Congratulations, I guessum, I don't really have much to
do that. I did a lotof the legwork. I guess I was
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there, not screwing up too badly, but so on a scale of one
to ten of dadness Tomorrow Wedness airsthat were recording us on Friday, I
will be. I'm leaving Rochester,New Hampshire at four am tomorrow with my
son and his girlfriend's coming to anddriving to Indianapolis for a bowling tournament.
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Where where is this now? I'msure Cam Kim's my son. I'm sure
Cam could probably do this, butI, of course, being a dad
adual range. We're gonna rent ahouse with your college students, let me
get a hold the mom most ofthe driving, sleep and you know,
and then I'm going to watch bowlingfor like two straight days. How long
is how long is that drive?That is, if you do it in
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one shot, it's fifteen and ahalf hours. But wow, I'm I
think what is most dad about thisis not the act itself. It's not
because there are some elements of thiswhere it's like, well, that's almost
more like college student the idea oflike we're gonna get up super early and
we're gonna drive and we're gonna goto this thing. But it's the level
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of planning. It's the level oflike meticulous. And I can tell looking
at you telling you about this,like there is some joy in this for
you. You are like, yes, I am, Because every dad is
a little bit like Patent or DouglasMacArthur, where like they want to be
able to say I have the battleplan and maybe the battle is just a
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road trip, but I have plannedit, and if when it's executed perfectly,
I will feel like a military genius. And so yeah, I'm not.
I'm not a very organized person.I have to work to be organized.
But when it comes to like likedriving and so like there's a little
Tom Conflint in me. If you'renot earlier late. I've told my son's
girlfriend son, I like, fouro'clock means we're leaving at four o'clock.
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That's right, that's right. Yeah, but you also know that it's gonna
get derailed in some way shape eroh sure, okay, yeah, because
I've already had like two days ago, I started worrying about one, when
are they going to pack their stuff? Like, like, because because Kim
is like a high level bowler andhe has he has a ten bowling balls
he's bringing to Indianapolis. Yeah,so that takes up a lot of trunk
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space, so I gotta kind ofyeah, essentially, yeah, I'm like
his uh in In pro bowling,they call it a ball representative, which
sounds a little scandalous, so I'mnot sure I should call myself that,
but I'm kind of like his ballrepresentatives is gonna go how much am I
gonna pack? Is great? Lovethis? Yeah, it's really something else.
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Ryan Andy's with a shutdown foecast whohas become my therapist for the last
ten minutes. But uh, he'llbe um invoicing me later. I think.
So the real reason I wanted totalk to you is because I I'm
part of the University of New Hampshirecollege Football radio crew. UM and college
football is an ever changing landscape andI don't I don't think where anybody knows
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where it's gonna be in in like, you know, five years, let
alone ten years. So this isthis is kind of a big question.
But I'm too dumb to ask itmore nuanced. In a more nuanced fashion,
how how do you see like thetears of college football involving and we're
gonna have a super league and thenlike a regular FBS and then an FCS
and then a Division two? Whatare you what are you think is going
to play out over the next whatever. So the path we're on certainly suggests
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that we're going to have a bifurcationof FBS between thank you, I prepped
for this with that and not alonebetween the SEC and the Big Ten and
more or less everybody else. AndI can kind of see like the logic
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there, and I can I understandwhy it's turning in that direction. I
think purely from a like audience andrevenue perspective. I wonder if at some
point that's going to look misguided,because I think there is that just cuts
out such a large percentage of thecountry, and it changes what the sport
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is so fundamentally that I don't knowthat college football is best served just as
a product by saying, oh,we're going to become like the junior NFL.
Right, here's the here's the AFC, here's the NFC. We figure
out a way to get them togetherin a title game. No, they're
not always equal sometimes when whatever,but like this is, this is what
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it is. And I think Idon't think we're ever going to get to
a point where these things are fullysplit from one another, in part because
eventually, I think the powers thatwe are going to recognize that what makes
college football appealing is this dissonance,is the fact that you can have app
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State, go play Texas A andM and beat them. Like. That's
not a thing you get in thein the NFL. You don't get that.
Even if you know the Jets arehaving a terrible year and they beat
the Patriots, It's like, well, these are still teams with similar financial
resources and the same like the rosters. Yeah, right, right exactly.
And so I think we will continueto pull in that direction. But I
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really don't think we're going to getto a point where it's like, no,
these are two different things and theyhave no crossover whatsoever. I think
FBS will realize that it is astronger product as a hundred teams rather than
just the best or most interesting ormost valuable let's call it with forty,
right, it seems like to me, uh and I didn't grow up in
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college football culture because it's not verybig in the Northeast. You know,
Boston College is like they're the biggestor was the biggest one as people still
around here call it team yeah forthe longest time, and it was,
you know, it was way downin the pecking order. But one of
the things I found is, youknow, the the dumber things that happened
in college football, or the moreunexpected things, or the you know,
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the wild the wild things, thoseare what really that's the heart and soul
of the sport. And like,yes, you know, when I became
part of the un Age radio team, one of the things that we picked
up on James Masson was in thesame conference. Everybody hated James Madison.
But it was fun to hate JamesMadison, right, Like their sid was
a little too arrogant when you werethere, and like their fans took it
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a little too so you're like,come on, you do you think?
But that was the fun part ofit. And I think you'd lose that
if you had like a thirty teamsuper league where like like yeah, the
you know, the bottom of theSEC East team you know, like oh,
Kentucky's are worst team. Well,how is that fun? Right?
I The other part that really throwsme about the idea of a super league,
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and specifically an SEC Big ten setup. There are teams and there
are programs, and they don't alwaysstay this way, but there are teams
that are not taking football specifically asseriously just from a monetary standpoint as everybody
else. Like I live in Nashville, Vanderbilt is trying to put more resources
into the They're renovating the football stadiumright now. It's ruining traffic. But
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like that, they are not andI don't think they ever will spend the
kind of money that Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, Texas. Now that Texas
is coming in the league, Ican go on and on like that's not
going to be there. Kentucky,despite having a good, relatively recent football
success, is still like it's notbasketball, and it's not going to be
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basketball Kentucky. So I wonder atone point, like, well, if
you if you decide to run thisas a really cutthroat super league business,
do you look at it at somepoint and say, like, you know
what, we don't want Indiana anyIndiana football is not moving the needle for
US as a as a as apart of this like upper echelon. And
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therefore, once you've sort of onceyou're the big ten. For example,
if you've said UCLA and USC areare in well, now like tradition and
regional identity and all that doesn't matter. So what is there to you tied
to those kinds of what's what's thereto keep you tied to Minnesota if Minnesota
isn't a ten win program regularly?And also and if you're a Minnesota fan,
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what do you care about if USC'scompany town. It's probably fun if
they bring the band, like,oh, okay, look at that,
but right you see it once?Now okay, now I'm seeing you know
you don't have the hatred you havefor like a Wisconsin or somebody like that.
Yes, yes, and that's that'swhat the sport is all about,
right, Yes, it's all about. I mean like the Big Time's the
best example of this. You haveall these weird, weird rivalry trophies that
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are based on you know uh what, I think it's the um the the
jug is is based on a coachwho was worried that the opposing fans are
going to poison him and now it'sa traveling trophy. That's great, that's
yeah, yeah, there's there.There seems to be a lot of poisoning
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in the stories of the Annals.I guess right. I think, you
know, it was just common atthe time. I think there was a
time in American history where it wasjust super easy to poison other people.
You know, how would they know? Would they It was far like,
Uh, they're probably gonna get sickoff something else, so we'll never know
it was me. And then ofa sudden at that point was like,
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oh, he's gotten the ghost inhis blog him who knows if he was
poisoned. We're talking to Ryan Nannyof The Shutdown Full Cast, one of
the best college football et cetera podcastsout there. So what are you anticipating
for for this season? It's youknow, whenever we look at FBS,
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we're like, oh, it's Alabama'sGeorgia and that's we'll see what happens.
What I mean, do you thinkthere's gonna be anything new and exciting or
or weird or stupid or the stupidstuff is my favorite stuff, But what
do you see? I mean,this year it feels like is a real
interesting PAC twelve Orpust kind of yearfor for that conference, in part because
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Washington is a school that's getting alot of interest in a lot of hype
and is like brings back a verysuccessful transfer quarterback and Michael penox Um.
You have the Raining Heisman Trophy winnercoming back at USC and sort of everybody's
sort of wondering, okay, likeis Lincoln Riley going to really get that
machine running the way it's going?Ucla has shown some improvement, even Arizona
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has shown some improvement. And that'sbefore we even get to Dion Sanders at
Colorado. I don't think Colorado's gonnamake a college football playoff or anything,
but for the first time in awhile, there are a lot of interesting
And I didn't even touch on Utah, who's won the conference to your right
route and they're just so mean thatthey, yes, Florida, Florida's school
I route for has to open theyear at Utah and I do not look
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forward to watching that game. Whotold them they had to do that?
You know, for years Florida gota lot of crap for not traveling for
a non conference outside. They're like, fine, we'll do it, and
now everybody's like, oh, you'regoing to Utah. It's like, what
do you want from us? So, but I think I have I think
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there's a lot of interest in canthe Pac twelve get a team in the
playoff? Can the Pac twelve likereally really make its force be known on
a national stage in a way thatit hasn't in a long time. And
I think it's not coincidental that it'sreally there's a lot of pressure to do
that right now with the state ofthe conference being what it is, with
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it sort of being on the precipiceof is it kind of collapse, does
it kind of kind of go theBig twelve route and sort of kind of
hold together in new form? Likewhat's this looking like? The Big twelve
is the other conference I'm interested inbecause and I've talked about this in other
places, I don't remember a timewhere we had a school say or we're
leaving and everybody didn't just figure outa way to get it done right like
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this this interim year where you know, Dad, dad, Dad and mom
have split up, but Dad stilllives in the garage. Dad's gonna loft,
it's it's it's gonna be interesting becauseI think the Big Twelve media preseason
media pole just came out and Texasis the overwhelming favorite to win the conference.
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And I'm just like, so manyof these schools want to send Texas
out with loss, Like so manyif you are, I mean, name
any school in that conference other thanOklahoma who's going to keep playing them in
the new in the new league.You absolutely want to send them out with
a loss that possibly ruins their season. So I think there'll be a lot
of fun to watch in terms ofNew UM. It feels silly not to
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say Georgia's going to be right backin the in the picture. The Big
Ten will be interesting, but it'sprobably going to be interesting the same way
it's been for the last few years, where it's sort of, you know,
Ohio State or Michigan, maybe PennState sneaks in there. This is
the year that that happens. Yeah, I don't, I don't know,
I don't, I don't look atthis is like, oh, this is
gonna be a truly wild year.But the nice thing about college football is
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that you don't see the wild yearscoming. They just sort of sneak up
on you and then it's like,oh no, everything's gone to hell.
Yeah, And I think a lotof that is when you know, before
I got into broadcasting college sports,I broadcasted a lot of high school sports,
and the old guys, the oldguy that owned the radio station I
worked at years ago, who alsoowned to use car dealership, which tells
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you a few things, would say, all right, who's gonna be good
this year? And I would Iwould explain to him, while these teams
should be good, but if thequarterback breaks up with his girlfriend, that
derails it. Sometimes I think youforget sometimes these are still like dudes in
there, you know, in theirvery early twenties. Yes, and then
they they you know, they canscrew up, especially on a national stage,
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and who knows what happens after that? Right? Right? Yes,
it is. It is a sportwhere the variance is wide enough that you
can sort of be like, whowhat happened here? How did this quarterback
throw six interceptions? Like? Right? So it has that possibility as much
as the Nick Sabans and the KirbySmarts and the and so forth are are
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trying to sort of like squeeze thatout and sort of say like, no,
this will be an efficient college footballmachine with no room for air and
no mistakes whatsoever. It's like,too bad Auburn still exists, yes,
and Auburn the chaos agent. Well, I forgive which one are you on
the podcasts? But they could beall things to all people or something like
that or yeah, yeah, yeah, Auburn are basically the Heisenberg and certain
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New principle where like, the minuteyou stop Auburn to see what it is,
you no longer know what it isanymore. You can't you can't observe
it in real time. We're talkingto Ryan any of the the Shutdown full
cast just a couplets before I letyou go. Um the you know,
being a like a like a Iguess I've been working in college football FCS
level for seven or eight years now. Where does FCS kind of land on
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the you know, the traditional collegefootball fan who grew up you know,
liking you know, you're a Floridafan, if you're like a Georgia fan.
Is FCS on the normal college footballfans radar? Or is it kind
of like, oh, look atthat, that's cute, look at that
over there. I think it's incrediblyregional because like, for instance, if
you know, growing up in Florida, FCS football just doesn't have a big
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presence there, Like there, youknow, I'm old enough to be like,
oh yeah, you know these teamsused to be an FCS, but
they've since long moved up. Andso I think it really depends. It
is in many ways more regional thanFBS is where sort of your attention to
it and awareness of it varies,and you know, like, I think
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the best opportunity we get and thething that I hope we don't lose as
FBS continues to sort of grow intothis television behemoth is the FCS FBS matchups,
which I feel like we have beenreally lucky the last three years or
so that with the exception of theCOVID year for sure, where we've had
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a lot of good games, Likewe've had a lot of good upsets,
We've had a lot of good closegames like yeah, are are you still
getting the occasional this team comes in, collects its check and loose by fifty
shore. I happened to be onthe broadcast for a University of New Hampshire
team losing to a pit team ledby Kenny Pickett, whose coaching staff was
under fire and by the account ofseventy seven to seven, and then the
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charter flight had no cruise, sowe sat on the tarmac three hours after
losing seventy seven. It's not egedmy brain at all. It's fine,
everything's fine, it's great, allright. So, yes, not all
tops are perfect. I can seethat. Um, but yeah, I
think I think as long as westill have that going on. The the
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other thing that I I think thesport is hopefully wrangling with reasonally well,
is it does seem like there issome effort to pay more attention to the
FCS playoffs. I don't think we'regoing to get to a point where casual
fans or even semi invested fans arereally paying attention to week in, week
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out FCS football. But I thinkas we continue, as we continue to
expand the playoff in FBS, maybethat raises interest in the FCS playoffs as
well. Maybe that gives you moreopportunity to sort of talk about the two
happening at the same time. It'snot it's not the same thing, but
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you know where where people sort ofsaid, like, well, why are
we promoting the men's and women's basketballtournaments in totally different ways and in totally
in congress ways. If there's interestin both, like maybe there are some
growth opportunities that people can have topay more attention to and get more into
the FCS playoffs because of the hulkingFBS playoffs that we're getting, right.
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Yeah, I think at this pointpeople know, don't go play in Dakota
if you don't have to correct correct, and you know, people are aware
of the one good thing about DionSanders, you know, being at an
HBCU was it brought a lot ofattention to HBCUs, which is good.
And I just want more attention tocome to the fact that New Hampshire and
Maine play for a gun every year, and I feel that's an underrated trophy.
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Like they play, they bring thegun out, the musket, the
price Cowel musket, and it's likein the ends, it's like a guest
of honor and they play for agun, which I think it's cool.
Like if that can't appeal to SECcountry, I don't know. Yeah,
although I will say you're gonna haveto convince Mississippi State fans to get over
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the fact that they lost to Maine. I don't think they're going to take
kind Yeah, that's that might takea while. But Ryan Danny the Shutdown
Fullcast, thanks so much for yourtime, very generous through time today and
make sure you check out the ShutdownFullcast and where else can people find you?
What else you have to these days? Or is that at it right
now? That's it for now.You can find me at celebrity hotsub,
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on Twitter and whatever new eight othersocial media platforms. We're starting this.
God, I have like a coupleof new projects coming up. I'm not
allowed to talk about them yet,but they are coming so I figured something.
It's probably in the works, butI don't know if you're talking about
whatever was happening right well, we'lllook for you there and yeah on the
seventeen twitters we have now, Ryan, thanks so much, thanks for having
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me. Welcome back to over Time. Thanks to Ryan Nanny for being on
the program. As you are.I mentioned it in the interview with Ryan,
but as you're listening to this,this will be about and spoiler or
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it's your first time listening to theshow. First of all, welcome.
Second of all, it's all prerecorded. I'm not doing this live. I
work five days a week if youcan call what I do work. I'm
not coming in out of sixth dayto the show live unless someone hands me
a bag of money, which Iwill, I will. I will sell
out for just about anything. Infact, the company had us fill out
this thing as far as there's anew initiative to get folks on the air
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more more endorsement deals, which I'mall four because I would put money in
my pocket. And there's a thingat the end and ask you a bunch
of questions so they can the salesweasels here can find you the correct endorsement
deals, which is good, Isuppose. Uh. And then at the
instance, is there anything you're notwilling to endorse? And but that the
guns and Trump stuff? That wasmy only two things. Anything else,
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like I'm a vegetarian. If youwant me to endorse Omaha steaks, Yeah,
I'll do that. Why not themoney spend? What did what did
Clay Davis say something the effective?I don't have time to ask why somebody's
given me their money. I've cleanedit up a little bit there, but
you understand what I'm saying. Wherewas that going with this? Oh?
Yeah, I do the show liveif someone paid me enough to do it,
but currently they're not. But anyway, as you're listening to this,
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I am in the midst of atrek starting from Rochester, New Hampshire,
which, with any luck, weleft the house at four am. Uh
and uh not not NonStop. Iguess I'll have to stop to get gas
in pedi and whatnot. But headedall the way to Indianapolis, Indiana.
Which why are we going to Indianapolisin July? That's that's a fair question.
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Why are you going to Indianapolis?Ever, is also a fair question
and the answer is Uh. Cammakaysachas uh qualified for a bowling tournament out
there called Junior Gold and uh youhave to qualify at a regional tournament.
He's in the U twenty division thistime around, which is a lot smaller
than it's a it's a gigantic youthtournament. They have like U twelve you
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I don't know, like a bunchof youth divisions, and then the week
before they do the U twenty division. So if you're in college, you
go out there and if you dowell enough, you win scholarship money.
And uh, it's basically I'm drivingto Indiana to watch bowling, which to
some, uh may sound like anightmare, and I'm sure it will be,
especially the driving part, but it'sreally, uh, your kids only
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your ear. And I guess he'sa Cam's an adult. But you know
what I'm what I'm learning as myas my kids have become adults. Chilly's
eighteen, Cam's nineteen, what I'mlearning is, uh, you never kind
of stopped looking at them as kids, or at least you don't when they're
they still kind of look like teenagers, right like. Uh, like Cam,
he's in college, he still kindof looks, you know, like
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he's seventeen. Eighteen. Uh,he still acts, you know, they
still act like kids, right like. Uh. As we were taping the
Ryan Nitty interview, I was onthe phone texting back and forth between Cam
A Chilly. Cam was supposed togive Kechelly a ride to work because it's
like one hundred and fifteen degrees outand of course he was sleeping. It
was ten o'clock, ten thirty inthe morning, and he was sleeping.
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And now that I'm an old,forty five year old dad, I'm like,
why is he still sleeping? Tryingto clock him the morning on a
Friday, not realizing up until Istarted working in morning drive radio that I
would I would sleep till like eleveneleventh. I would sleep the whole damn
day if you let me. So. You never quite stopped looking at your
kids as kids. I guess isis the lesson I'm learning. But you
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only get so many times where yourkids will like want you to be a
part of what they're doing, right, and then that time is like running
out, And then if they havegrandkids, you get to do that all
over again. But you also getto get to give the kids back at
the end of that time, whichis probably better. I'm guessing you don't
have to clean up after after themas much. But yeah, Cam,
as far as I can tell,And and part of it probably has to
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do with the fact that I'm Ipay for like the house we rent with
his college teammates and all that,and or split the cost with one of
the moms said, yeah, yeah, my discover card probably has something to
do with it, budd. He'sstill uh, there's still a lot opposed
to me to his old man comingto watch him do bowling tournaments, which
you know what, that's over andit's over. So you have to you
have to you have to do asmuch as that as you can. I
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think it's a parent When people askme for parenting advice, I don't have
a ton um because everybody's experience isdifferent, and my experience has been that
if you're going to parent correctly,and maybe maybe I've discussed this with Renee
a few weeks or months ago atsome point in the show with my wife
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Renee, this gen X. We'refrom Generation X. Renee and I parents
a lot differently than our parents did. And I think part of that was
because and I'm painting with a broadbrush here, but it's it's radio and
that's what we do. I thinkthe Boomer generation were lousy parents for the
most part, since you know,ar rescipes to my mom. I think
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she did the best she could,but I don't think she was that great
at it. Uh, And Iyou know, it's I think that's a
that's a common experience for people thatare Gen X. Parents were Yeah,
you know, they were like youwere kind of an accessory and something you
know that had to be dealt with, but ultimately you weren't. If you
know, you don't if you're agen X, you know. And if
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you're a boomer and you're upset andare offended by this, you were probably
part of the problem. But anyway, it's it's it's part of the part
of my parental little experience was thatif you're doing it correctly, it's like
being in jail. So you don'tdo a whole lot of things. Uh,
you you make sacrifices about like kindof being your own person, like
doing your own stuff. And thenwhich is not to say it's like a
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hardship because I really like my kids. I know, not everybody. You
know. The cliche thing is Imy kids are a pain to the ass.
Everybody's a pain to the ass atsome point. But you know,
my kids are very different. Uh. But they they both have like really
good qualities. Some of them Iwould like them to work on. But
I would say, like I'd say, they're both like ninety percent good and
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like ten percent, Oh we canwork on that. But and I feel
like that's a good ratio. SoI like hanging out with them. I
don't do I want to hang outwith them all the time. No,
do I want to hang out withanybody all the time. No, do
I want to hang out with myselfall the time. Absolutely not. That's
why I come and talking a microphone, so I have to deal with my
own thoughts or make you deal withhim. But anyway, this is a
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long winded way of saying, it'snot a nightmare for me to drive to
Indianapolis and watch Cam compete in abulling tournament and with his college teammates and
Indianapolis. By the way, thisfeels like one long run on sentence,
But that's what you get when Ionly have one guest Indianapolis. We went
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out there a couple of years ago, kind of underrated as a city,
like it's not New York. It'sit's not like La certainly, it's not
you know, Miami, but it'sit's fine. I think people think when
you go out to Indianapolis, it'sgonna be a snooze fest, and we
went out there a few years agoand it was perfectly fine. I mean,
you know, it's the downtown's gotsome stuff centralized. The one thing
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I think people when they go toIndianapolis are surprised by is how close to
downtown the Colts Stadium is. Wegot a tour last time around my brother
in law, Brad, and myselfat cam This is twenty twenty one,
so we were kind of people werejust kind of emerging from COVID and starting
to do stuff again. And Brad, who's a Cults fan, was able
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to secure a tour of Lucas OilStadium with the Colts play. And it
is like right there. It isright downtown, like you turn around a
corner. I'm like, oh,look, it's a football stadium, which
you know, you know, GilletteStadium is in the middle of nowhere.
There's one road in, one roadout even to get to to I still
call a giant stadium because I'm onehundred years old. Even gets a giant
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stadium. It's kind of like ina giant parking lot in New Jersey.
So it's I don't feel like alot of football stad I think the one
of Nashville is kind of close todowntown, but there's not a lot of
professional football stadiums that are just rightthere, like you turn the corner and
it's right there. But Lucas OilStadium is. And we got a tour
of that, and it was justthe three of us because nobody, I
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don't think anybody realized that Steves weredoing tours again, so we kind of
we kind of got like VIP statusaccess and those people are into the Indianapolis
Colts. At least the tour guidewe had was because we you know,
Brad was in. We got tosee the field, the press box,
the locker rooms, the whole thing, and the you know, me,
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as a as a Patriots fan whowas kind of an a hole, took
every opportunity to uh to tweak theperson who was nice to us to give
us a tour of the entire stadium. I was like, oh, look
at the AFC finalists ban or isit that cute? And when we went
in the locker room, I thinkthis is I think vine Terry had just
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retired. So the woman who wasa lovely woman by the way, lovely
woman giving the tour, she waslike, oh, this is the locker
where our kicker, Adam vine Terry, uh you know, had his locker
last year. And I was like, you're a kicker. She's like,
yes, our kicker. I waslike, your kicker, and she had
very little sense of humor about that, like those people are they are all
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in for the Colts and I'm basingthis off the sample size of one woman
who gave me a tour of LucasOil Stadium two years ago. And I
assume that is how all the Coltsfans are. I'm probably right. Anyway,
when we come back, I'm gonnatalk a little bit about the mayhem
with social media that went down thisweek. The Twitter seems to be malfunctioning.
We got well, we got anew social media app, I Guess
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this week, which is blowing up, and I got a Blue Sky Invites.
We'll talk about all that coming upin just a little bit on overtime.
Keep it here, Welcome back toovertime, fourth and final segment of
the program. There's been a lotmore me in this episode than there has
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been in the past. We're stillexperimenting with the format. I think I
think the two guests format is goingto work the best. This past week,
a lot went down in the worldof social media. Twitter, as
we've talked about on this program before, is and I guess. I let
me preface this by saying, Ireally really liked Twitter. Liked past tense
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intentional there I Twitter. I'm notafraid to say it. Twitter was awesome
back in the day. It wasthe best thing for breaking news, it
was the best thing for sports.Those moments where like someone would do something
dumb on Twitter and if you onlyif you were extremely online like I tend
to be, would you know whatthe hell of what everyone was talking about
(35:34):
the And if you're an extremely onlineguy, you'll remember the meet me in
Temecula guy, which I think thatwas like twenty fifteen. Like at Christmas
time twenty fifteen, some dude andsome other dude were arguing over something and
one of them challenged the other toa fight and said, meet me in
Temecula and that went on for justdays. It's still like a meet me
in Temecula as something you say whenyou're angrying someone but you don't actually want
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to fight them, or you're makingfun of somebody for being like too much
of a hard o tough guy.Just stuff like that, where someone every
day would become the main character ofTwitter, which was always your goal to
avoid being right. You never wantedto be the main character of Twitter.
So someone would do something dumb onTwitter and you would You could just bag
(36:17):
on them as a community forever,and it was so much fun. I'm
not afraid to say it. Ireally really like Twitter as it was right
up until the Nazis were bad,but they were they were taking steps to
like clamp down on the Nazis stuffand the white supremacy stuff. That wasn't
great, but it was like eightypercent good and like twenty percent bad,
(36:38):
or maybe like seventy five twenty five. In my opinion, I never got
like bully to ratioot on Twitter.It was good to write up until Elon
Musk took over, and this pastweek was a really good example of that.
So depending on who you believe oryou listen to, well, well,
I guess we'll start with the fact. So Twitter, right around July
first, people started getting these weirdthings where it was like, uh,
(37:01):
rate limit exceeded, you can onlylook at four hundred tweets per day,
and everybody was like, what thehell is going on here? And Elon
Musk's it's something about like data beingscraped and blah blah blah blah. I
gave some technical explanation which probably madeup, and then I wouldn't understand anyway
even if it wasn't made up.But anyway, so it's like, oh,
we're working on the issue. Thenthere were some folks saying, oh,
(37:22):
look at this. Twitter is supposedto be playing paying this much to
Google for use of their servers,and they own a billion dollars today.
I don't think it's a coincidence thatthey owe Google this money and it appears
to have not been paid and suddenlyrate limits on Twitter our thing. It
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was right around that time that thatfolks that are extremely online like me and
on Twitter a lot like me,uh, started like reaching out for invites
to this app called blue Sky,which is I believe it's some of the
old Twitter folks, and right nowit's it's still in beta form. It's
invite only, and they're really notmessing around with having like uh, you
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know, like disinformation, racism,white supremacy, everything that Twitter has kind
of turned into. It's kind ofturned into what the app? What was?
What was the app that all theall the white supremacy parlor or gab.
Twitter's kind of turned into that almostat this point, just with a
lot more bots. So people wereheading to Blue Sky and I got a
Blue Sky invite from someone, anduh, it's nice over there. People
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are just kind of being nice toeach other and just you know, posting
like like twenty fifteen esque Twitter stufflike uh, like, oh, here's
a picture of my dog, brightenup your day. And I was like,
oh, I like dogs. It'skind of nice over here, but
there's not a lot of people overthere, so it's it's you know,
there's you kind of have to likelook at it for you look at it
for a bit, and then youhave to go back to it, which
(38:50):
is probably how social media should beused. Like it's probably unhealthy to sit
there on the couch just doom scrollingas I enjoy doing. I'm into recreational
status. But anyway, so thenand this was Wednesday night. So I
got back from Long Island Wednesday night, and it was tough to go to
sleep that night because my idiot neighborswere setting off fireworks to celebrate the fifth
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of July. I guess at likenine thirty at night, and I get
I get up at like three fortyfive. So I'm not a big fan
of that. So that was goingon, and then, like a writer,
around nine pm, all of asudden, Zuckerbird for the top prop.
Hey, here's this thing called threads. It's like Twitter, but it's
attached to your Instagram and people went, like thirty million people joined up in
(39:34):
the first first day or so,not really reading the fine print that like,
you can't if you delete your threadsaccount, you have to delete your
entire Instagram. That's how they getyou. Now, the problem with Threads
is and again, it just launchedtwo days ago, so I'm sure it'll
be better in like a month.The problem with Threads is is it's I
think it's almost entirely algorithm based,Like you can't sort by like when I
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go on to Twitter. There's anoption for me for now to look at
only the people I follow on Twitter, and all I have to do is
like see their chronological tweets, like, oh, here's what the New York
Times said, here's what here's whatAlex Lacas said, here's what David Roth
said. Oh that's great, here'swhat the shutdown foldcast said. And I
can just look at that in theorder that they happen. You also have
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the option to go to the fouththing, and it's kind of like an
algorithm based and it's a you know, like, oh, here's here's some
white supremacy stuff we think you'll like, and then you block that and you
don't have to see that again.Threads is just everything, like everybody got
on there and it's just right now, it's mostly brands talking to each other.
Sorry to slap the microphone, it'sbrands talking to each other and trying
(40:37):
to be like cute, and it'skind of it's kind of gross right now.
Like it's just the like brands sayinglike, hey, bestie, how
you doing, Oreos responding to Wendy'sor something like that. It's like,
ah, this isn't good either,So right now, none of the social
medias are good, Like Twitter isjust a hub of bots and white supremacy
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and Elon's apparently Elon Musk is throwinga fit because all the people he fired
from Twitter went to or a lotof them went to work for Zuckerberg and
developed this Threads thing, which there'sa lot of like Twitter esque things over
there. It's like a lot ofthe good things about Twitter, but it's
just brands talking with each other.So if you go to Threads, Zuckerberg
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isn't I guess he's a little betterthan Elon Musk, but he's still like
a gross billionaire, so it's it'snot like I want him tracking me and
finding my stuff, and also likeI can't really see the people I follow,
and also it's all my Instagram followers, which means it can be people
in my family. I want peoplein my family knowing the dumb stuff I
say about the Patriots or whatever.They have to hear it enough when they
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listen to the radio, or theyjust hear me screaming at the TV when
things are happening. So Threads isn'tgreat blue sky. I think it has
the belt most potential, but there'snobody over there yet. So there's so
I have to keep track of.I know I don't have to. You
don't have to tell me that.I know. I don't have to keep
track of any of this, butI kind of I do. So I
have three social media things. I'mtrying to keep track of all of them
(42:04):
and I can't. They all havetheir flaws and I kind of hate all
of them right now. And Facebook'sfor old people. Nobody cares about Facebook
anymore. That's that's over. Butso there you go. So I feel
like a man without a social mediacountry right now. I'm gonna stick with
Twitter until it dies. My hopeis. My hope is because all of
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Elon Musk's supposed of wealth is tiedup in Tesla stock, which is vastly
inflated. I'm hoping there's a andwe're getting a little into weeds here.
I'm hoping there's a margin called bythe people that like own his debt and
he has to auction off Twitter andwill become good again. That's what I'm
holding out hope for. It's probablynot gonna happen. It's like the people,
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let's say, remember when times weresimple and you knew dinner was going
to be served on the table,and you can live in a neighborhood one
and never have to see anyone thatdidn't look like you. I kind of
sound like one of those people,but not racist. But I do look
back wistfully on the old days ofTwitter before Elon Musk ruined it. So
there you go. All right,that's gonna do it For this week's show.
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Depending on when I get back fromIndianapolis, you may either get a
rerun of a best of show Iguess. I guess best of is a
better way to say a rerun,or there may be some fresh new content
next week. But either way,if you missed a show live, listen
to the podcast, subscribing in yourfavorite podcast app. The bosses like me
to tell you to use the iHeartRadioapp, but subscribe on whatever format you
(43:27):
want. Like the show, reviewit, give us five stars, all
that other crap, and until then, I will see you next week.
And remember, hippies are bad peoplepretending to be good. Punks are good
people pretending to be bad. Theletter
Welcome to over Time. I'm yourhumble and devastatingly handsome hosts. Justin mcconsick.
Overtime the only show to have violatedthree different Geneva Convention accords, which
is I feel like that's a record. This week on over Time, we
talked to Ryan Nanny of The ShutdownFull Cast or does the Shutdown full Cast?
It is the Internet's only college footballpodcast, And uh, there's really
(00:28):
no As I discussed with Ryan,there's really no way to explain what the
Shutdown Full Cast is. You justhave to listen to it and decide for
yourself if it's your thing or not. It's it's it's definitely my thing,
and if you're a sicko that listensto this show in a regular basis,
it will probably end up be yourthing because there's there's some similarities as far
as as far as humor, asfar as randomness, as far as a
(00:50):
lot of stuff goes. So we'lltalk to Ryan Nanny. I we'll talk
to Ryan about Dad's stuff, alsowant to expect this college football season,
and we talk about a little bitabout what exactly the Shutdown Full Cast is.
Ryan Ryan's He's hilarious and I'm lookingforward to sharing that interview with you.
In fact, we'll take a quickbreak here, come back and give
(01:11):
you that interview. Ryan Nanny ofThe Shutdown Full Cast coming up in just
a little bit here on Overtime,keep it here, joining us Stilly on
Overtime is one of the members ofone of my favorite podcasts, The Shutdown
Full Cast, Ryan Nanny. Ryan, I've tried to explain to people exactly
(01:32):
what the Shutdown full Cast is andwhy they should listen to it, and
then I get about like two linesin, I'm like, just have to
trust me. You just have tolisten to it obsensively. It's about college
football, and sometimes it is,but a lot of times it's not.
Well, how do you describe theShutdown Fullcast to people who haven't heard it?
I struggle the same way you do. Like, I'm not going to
(01:53):
pretend like I have my elevator pitchfor this down. I think the best
way is to say that The ShutdownFull Cast is a college football podcast that
takes college football as seriously as wedecide that it should be taken. And
so when we record an episode inJune, yeah, there's probably not going
to be much college football on thereat all, right, so yeah,
(02:15):
and also on Saturday nights, whichis way too late for me because I
get up to early. There's thethe fullcast after dark, which is,
yeah, which is a good recapof the day. Yeah. Yeah,
that that tends to be at leastmore football oriented because it has happened,
like right in the middle of thefootball day coming to an end. So
(02:37):
yeah, I don't. I mean, maybe the best way to explain the
Shutdown fullcast is it's a trust exercisemasquerading as a college football podcast. So
there's someone blindfolded falling backwards into people'sarms. That's right. This is the
audio version of that. Yeah,so how And I won't ask you about
(02:58):
the podcast for too much longer,but one, have you guys been doing
this because it's you, it's forpeople that haven't heard it. It's Spencer
Hall, who's on ESPN a bunchnow, Jason Kirk Andholly Anderson And yeah,
it's obvious, you know the fird. I think I got into it
about right before cope, maybe twentynineteen or twenty eighteen, um, with
my college football fit. Coincidentally,my college football fandom picked up when I
(03:20):
got a job in college football.But but you guys have been doing this
forever. I think Jason and Spencerwere the originators. But how did how
long have you been doing this andhow did it really come together? So
it it has existed in some formor fashion for now over ten years,
which is a horrifying thing to say. Uh. It stemmed out of a
(03:43):
YouTube series that Jason and Spencer didum that was very weird, very like
adult swim is kind of the bestway to describe it. That got turned
Like videos expensive to do and requireslike a lot of planning and production.
But as I think most people wholisten to podcasts now like frequently, podcasts
(04:04):
don't require any of those things.And it sort of got redirected into a
podcast that I joined up with andHolly joined up with shortly thereafter, and
it's just sort of has gone whereverit's gone from then without found any real
intentionality or planning. Well, it'sit's certainly one of my favorite podcasts,
(04:27):
and I'm not alone in that inthat, so I hope people will will
check it out. Before I askyou a little bit about college football,
I asked I have a dad question, because so I'm I have my daughter's
eighteen, my son's nineteen, myson's college, my daughter just graduated from
high school. Congratulations, I guessum, I don't really have much to
do that. I did a lotof the legwork. I guess I was
(04:49):
there, not screwing up too badly, but so on a scale of one
to ten of dadness Tomorrow Wedness airsthat were recording us on Friday, I
will be. I'm leaving Rochester,New Hampshire at four am tomorrow with my
son and his girlfriend's coming to anddriving to Indianapolis for a bowling tournament.
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Where where is this now? I'msure Cam Kim's my son. I'm sure
Cam could probably do this, butI, of course, being a dad
adual range. We're gonna rent ahouse with your college students, let me
get a hold the mom most ofthe driving, sleep and you know,
and then I'm going to watch bowlingfor like two straight days. How long
is how long is that drive?That is, if you do it in
(05:31):
one shot, it's fifteen and ahalf hours. But wow, I'm I
think what is most dad about thisis not the act itself. It's not
because there are some elements of thiswhere it's like, well, that's almost
more like college student the idea oflike we're gonna get up super early and
we're gonna drive and we're gonna goto this thing. But it's the level
(05:54):
of planning. It's the level oflike meticulous. And I can tell looking
at you telling you about this,like there is some joy in this for
you. You are like, yes, I am, Because every dad is
a little bit like Patent or DouglasMacArthur, where like they want to be
able to say I have the battleplan and maybe the battle is just a
(06:15):
road trip, but I have plannedit, and if when it's executed perfectly,
I will feel like a military genius. And so yeah, I'm not.
I'm not a very organized person.I have to work to be organized.
But when it comes to like likedriving and so like there's a little
Tom Conflint in me. If you'renot earlier late. I've told my son's
girlfriend son, I like, fouro'clock means we're leaving at four o'clock.
(06:40):
That's right, that's right. Yeah, but you also know that it's gonna
get derailed in some way shape eroh sure, okay, yeah, because
I've already had like two days ago, I started worrying about one, when
are they going to pack their stuff? Like, like, because because Kim
is like a high level bowler andhe has he has a ten bowling balls
he's bringing to Indianapolis. Yeah,so that takes up a lot of trunk
(07:02):
space, so I gotta kind ofyeah, essentially, yeah, I'm like
his uh in In pro bowling,they call it a ball representative, which
sounds a little scandalous, so I'mnot sure I should call myself that,
but I'm kind of like his ballrepresentatives is gonna go how much am I
gonna pack? Is great? Lovethis? Yeah, it's really something else.
(07:25):
Ryan Andy's with a shutdown foecast whohas become my therapist for the last
ten minutes. But uh, he'llbe um invoicing me later. I think.
So the real reason I wanted totalk to you is because I I'm
part of the University of New Hampshirecollege Football radio crew. UM and college
football is an ever changing landscape andI don't I don't think where anybody knows
(07:46):
where it's gonna be in in like, you know, five years, let
alone ten years. So this isthis is kind of a big question.
But I'm too dumb to ask itmore nuanced. In a more nuanced fashion,
how how do you see like thetears of college football involving and we're
gonna have a super league and thenlike a regular FBS and then an FCS
and then a Division two? Whatare you what are you think is going
to play out over the next whatever. So the path we're on certainly suggests
(08:09):
that we're going to have a bifurcationof FBS between thank you, I prepped
for this with that and not alonebetween the SEC and the Big Ten and
more or less everybody else. AndI can kind of see like the logic
(08:30):
there, and I can I understandwhy it's turning in that direction. I
think purely from a like audience andrevenue perspective. I wonder if at some
point that's going to look misguided,because I think there is that just cuts
out such a large percentage of thecountry, and it changes what the sport
(08:54):
is so fundamentally that I don't knowthat college football is best served just as
a product by saying, oh,we're going to become like the junior NFL.
Right, here's the here's the AFC, here's the NFC. We figure
out a way to get them togetherin a title game. No, they're
not always equal sometimes when whatever,but like this is, this is what
(09:18):
it is. And I think Idon't think we're ever going to get to
a point where these things are fullysplit from one another, in part because
eventually, I think the powers thatwe are going to recognize that what makes
college football appealing is this dissonance,is the fact that you can have app
(09:41):
State, go play Texas A andM and beat them. Like. That's
not a thing you get in thein the NFL. You don't get that.
Even if you know the Jets arehaving a terrible year and they beat
the Patriots, It's like, well, these are still teams with similar financial
resources and the same like the rosters. Yeah, right, right exactly.
And so I think we will continueto pull in that direction. But I
(10:07):
really don't think we're going to getto a point where it's like, no,
these are two different things and theyhave no crossover whatsoever. I think
FBS will realize that it is astronger product as a hundred teams rather than
just the best or most interesting ormost valuable let's call it with forty,
right, it seems like to me, uh and I didn't grow up in
(10:28):
college football culture because it's not verybig in the Northeast. You know,
Boston College is like they're the biggestor was the biggest one as people still
around here call it team yeah forthe longest time, and it was,
you know, it was way downin the pecking order. But one of
the things I found is, youknow, the the dumber things that happened
in college football, or the moreunexpected things, or the you know,
(10:50):
the wild the wild things, thoseare what really that's the heart and soul
of the sport. And like,yes, you know, when I became
part of the un Age radio team, one of the things that we picked
up on James Masson was in thesame conference. Everybody hated James Madison.
But it was fun to hate JamesMadison, right, Like their sid was
a little too arrogant when you werethere, and like their fans took it
(11:11):
a little too so you're like,come on, you do you think?
But that was the fun part ofit. And I think you'd lose that
if you had like a thirty teamsuper league where like like yeah, the
you know, the bottom of theSEC East team you know, like oh,
Kentucky's are worst team. Well,how is that fun? Right?
I The other part that really throwsme about the idea of a super league,
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and specifically an SEC Big ten setup. There are teams and there
are programs, and they don't alwaysstay this way, but there are teams
that are not taking football specifically asseriously just from a monetary standpoint as everybody
else. Like I live in Nashville, Vanderbilt is trying to put more resources
into the They're renovating the football stadiumright now. It's ruining traffic. But
(12:00):
like that, they are not andI don't think they ever will spend the
kind of money that Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, Texas. Now that Texas
is coming in the league, Ican go on and on like that's not
going to be there. Kentucky,despite having a good, relatively recent football
success, is still like it's notbasketball, and it's not going to be
(12:24):
basketball Kentucky. So I wonder atone point, like, well, if
you if you decide to run thisas a really cutthroat super league business,
do you look at it at somepoint and say, like, you know
what, we don't want Indiana anyIndiana football is not moving the needle for
US as a as a as apart of this like upper echelon. And
(12:48):
therefore, once you've sort of onceyou're the big ten. For example,
if you've said UCLA and USC areare in well, now like tradition and
regional identity and all that doesn't matter. So what is there to you tied
to those kinds of what's what's thereto keep you tied to Minnesota if Minnesota
isn't a ten win program regularly?And also and if you're a Minnesota fan,
(13:11):
what do you care about if USC'scompany town. It's probably fun if
they bring the band, like,oh, okay, look at that,
but right you see it once?Now okay, now I'm seeing you know
you don't have the hatred you havefor like a Wisconsin or somebody like that.
Yes, yes, and that's that'swhat the sport is all about,
right, Yes, it's all about. I mean like the Big Time's the
best example of this. You haveall these weird, weird rivalry trophies that
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are based on you know uh what, I think it's the um the the
jug is is based on a coachwho was worried that the opposing fans are
going to poison him and now it'sa traveling trophy. That's great, that's
yeah, yeah, there's there.There seems to be a lot of poisoning
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in the stories of the Annals.I guess right. I think, you
know, it was just common atthe time. I think there was a
time in American history where it wasjust super easy to poison other people.
You know, how would they know? Would they It was far like,
Uh, they're probably gonna get sickoff something else, so we'll never know
it was me. And then ofa sudden at that point was like,
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oh, he's gotten the ghost inhis blog him who knows if he was
poisoned. We're talking to Ryan Nannyof The Shutdown Full Cast, one of
the best college football et cetera podcastsout there. So what are you anticipating
for for this season? It's youknow, whenever we look at FBS,
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we're like, oh, it's Alabama'sGeorgia and that's we'll see what happens.
What I mean, do you thinkthere's gonna be anything new and exciting or
or weird or stupid or the stupidstuff is my favorite stuff, But what
do you see? I mean,this year it feels like is a real
interesting PAC twelve Orpust kind of yearfor for that conference, in part because
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Washington is a school that's getting alot of interest in a lot of hype
and is like brings back a verysuccessful transfer quarterback and Michael penox Um.
You have the Raining Heisman Trophy winnercoming back at USC and sort of everybody's
sort of wondering, okay, likeis Lincoln Riley going to really get that
machine running the way it's going?Ucla has shown some improvement, even Arizona
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has shown some improvement. And that'sbefore we even get to Dion Sanders at
Colorado. I don't think Colorado's gonnamake a college football playoff or anything,
but for the first time in awhile, there are a lot of interesting
And I didn't even touch on Utah, who's won the conference to your right
route and they're just so mean thatthey, yes, Florida, Florida's school
I route for has to open theyear at Utah and I do not look
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forward to watching that game. Whotold them they had to do that?
You know, for years Florida gota lot of crap for not traveling for
a non conference outside. They're like, fine, we'll do it, and
now everybody's like, oh, you'regoing to Utah. It's like, what
do you want from us? So, but I think I have I think
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there's a lot of interest in canthe Pac twelve get a team in the
playoff? Can the Pac twelve likereally really make its force be known on
a national stage in a way thatit hasn't in a long time. And
I think it's not coincidental that it'sreally there's a lot of pressure to do
that right now with the state ofthe conference being what it is, with
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it sort of being on the precipiceof is it kind of collapse, does
it kind of kind of go theBig twelve route and sort of kind of
hold together in new form? Likewhat's this looking like? The Big twelve
is the other conference I'm interested inbecause and I've talked about this in other
places, I don't remember a timewhere we had a school say or we're
leaving and everybody didn't just figure outa way to get it done right like
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this this interim year where you know, Dad, dad, Dad and mom
have split up, but Dad stilllives in the garage. Dad's gonna loft,
it's it's it's gonna be interesting becauseI think the Big Twelve media preseason
media pole just came out and Texasis the overwhelming favorite to win the conference.
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And I'm just like, so manyof these schools want to send Texas
out with loss, Like so manyif you are, I mean, name
any school in that conference other thanOklahoma who's going to keep playing them in
the new in the new league.You absolutely want to send them out with
a loss that possibly ruins their season. So I think there'll be a lot
of fun to watch in terms ofNew UM. It feels silly not to
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say Georgia's going to be right backin the in the picture. The Big
Ten will be interesting, but it'sprobably going to be interesting the same way
it's been for the last few years, where it's sort of, you know,
Ohio State or Michigan, maybe PennState sneaks in there. This is
the year that that happens. Yeah, I don't, I don't know,
I don't, I don't look atthis is like, oh, this is
gonna be a truly wild year.But the nice thing about college football is
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that you don't see the wild yearscoming. They just sort of sneak up
on you and then it's like,oh no, everything's gone to hell.
Yeah, And I think a lotof that is when you know, before
I got into broadcasting college sports,I broadcasted a lot of high school sports,
and the old guys, the oldguy that owned the radio station I
worked at years ago, who alsoowned to use car dealership, which tells
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you a few things, would say, all right, who's gonna be good
this year? And I would Iwould explain to him, while these teams
should be good, but if thequarterback breaks up with his girlfriend, that
derails it. Sometimes I think youforget sometimes these are still like dudes in
there, you know, in theirvery early twenties. Yes, and then
they they you know, they canscrew up, especially on a national stage,
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and who knows what happens after that? Right? Right? Yes,
it is. It is a sportwhere the variance is wide enough that you
can sort of be like, whowhat happened here? How did this quarterback
throw six interceptions? Like? Right? So it has that possibility as much
as the Nick Sabans and the KirbySmarts and the and so forth are are
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trying to sort of like squeeze thatout and sort of say like, no,
this will be an efficient college footballmachine with no room for air and
no mistakes whatsoever. It's like,too bad Auburn still exists, yes,
and Auburn the chaos agent. Well, I forgive which one are you on
the podcasts? But they could beall things to all people or something like
that or yeah, yeah, yeah, Auburn are basically the Heisenberg and certain
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New principle where like, the minuteyou stop Auburn to see what it is,
you no longer know what it isanymore. You can't you can't observe
it in real time. We're talkingto Ryan any of the the Shutdown full
cast just a couplets before I letyou go. Um the you know,
being a like a like a Iguess I've been working in college football FCS
level for seven or eight years now. Where does FCS kind of land on
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the you know, the traditional collegefootball fan who grew up you know,
liking you know, you're a Floridafan, if you're like a Georgia fan.
Is FCS on the normal college footballfans radar? Or is it kind
of like, oh, look atthat, that's cute, look at that
over there. I think it's incrediblyregional because like, for instance, if
you know, growing up in Florida, FCS football just doesn't have a big
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presence there, Like there, youknow, I'm old enough to be like,
oh yeah, you know these teamsused to be an FCS, but
they've since long moved up. Andso I think it really depends. It
is in many ways more regional thanFBS is where sort of your attention to
it and awareness of it varies,and you know, like, I think
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the best opportunity we get and thething that I hope we don't lose as
FBS continues to sort of grow intothis television behemoth is the FCS FBS matchups,
which I feel like we have beenreally lucky the last three years or
so that with the exception of theCOVID year for sure, where we've had
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a lot of good games, Likewe've had a lot of good upsets,
We've had a lot of good closegames like yeah, are are you still
getting the occasional this team comes in, collects its check and loose by fifty
shore. I happened to be onthe broadcast for a University of New Hampshire
team losing to a pit team ledby Kenny Pickett, whose coaching staff was
under fire and by the account ofseventy seven to seven, and then the
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charter flight had no cruise, sowe sat on the tarmac three hours after
losing seventy seven. It's not egedmy brain at all. It's fine,
everything's fine, it's great, allright. So, yes, not all
tops are perfect. I can seethat. Um, but yeah, I
think I think as long as westill have that going on. The the
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other thing that I I think thesport is hopefully wrangling with reasonally well,
is it does seem like there issome effort to pay more attention to the
FCS playoffs. I don't think we'regoing to get to a point where casual
fans or even semi invested fans arereally paying attention to week in, week
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out FCS football. But I thinkas we continue, as we continue to
expand the playoff in FBS, maybethat raises interest in the FCS playoffs as
well. Maybe that gives you moreopportunity to sort of talk about the two
happening at the same time. It'snot it's not the same thing, but
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you know where where people sort ofsaid, like, well, why are
we promoting the men's and women's basketballtournaments in totally different ways and in totally
in congress ways. If there's interestin both, like maybe there are some
growth opportunities that people can have topay more attention to and get more into
the FCS playoffs because of the hulkingFBS playoffs that we're getting, right.
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Yeah, I think at this pointpeople know, don't go play in Dakota
if you don't have to correct correct, and you know, people are aware
of the one good thing about DionSanders, you know, being at an
HBCU was it brought a lot ofattention to HBCUs, which is good.
And I just want more attention tocome to the fact that New Hampshire and
Maine play for a gun every year, and I feel that's an underrated trophy.
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Like they play, they bring thegun out, the musket, the
price Cowel musket, and it's likein the ends, it's like a guest
of honor and they play for agun, which I think it's cool.
Like if that can't appeal to SECcountry, I don't know. Yeah,
although I will say you're gonna haveto convince Mississippi State fans to get over
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the fact that they lost to Maine. I don't think they're going to take
kind Yeah, that's that might takea while. But Ryan Danny the Shutdown
Fullcast, thanks so much for yourtime, very generous through time today and
make sure you check out the ShutdownFullcast and where else can people find you?
What else you have to these days? Or is that at it right
now? That's it for now.You can find me at celebrity hotsub,
(24:03):
on Twitter and whatever new eight othersocial media platforms. We're starting this.
God, I have like a coupleof new projects coming up. I'm not
allowed to talk about them yet,but they are coming so I figured something.
It's probably in the works, butI don't know if you're talking about
whatever was happening right well, we'lllook for you there and yeah on the
seventeen twitters we have now, Ryan, thanks so much, thanks for having
(24:25):
me. Welcome back to over Time. Thanks to Ryan Nanny for being on
the program. As you are.I mentioned it in the interview with Ryan,
but as you're listening to this,this will be about and spoiler or
(24:45):
it's your first time listening to theshow. First of all, welcome.
Second of all, it's all prerecorded. I'm not doing this live. I
work five days a week if youcan call what I do work. I'm
not coming in out of sixth dayto the show live unless someone hands me
a bag of money, which Iwill, I will. I will sell
out for just about anything. Infact, the company had us fill out
this thing as far as there's anew initiative to get folks on the air
(25:11):
more more endorsement deals, which I'mall four because I would put money in
my pocket. And there's a thingat the end and ask you a bunch
of questions so they can the salesweasels here can find you the correct endorsement
deals, which is good, Isuppose. Uh. And then at the
instance, is there anything you're notwilling to endorse? And but that the
guns and Trump stuff? That wasmy only two things. Anything else,
(25:33):
like I'm a vegetarian. If youwant me to endorse Omaha steaks, Yeah,
I'll do that. Why not themoney spend? What did what did
Clay Davis say something the effective?I don't have time to ask why somebody's
given me their money. I've cleanedit up a little bit there, but
you understand what I'm saying. Wherewas that going with this? Oh?
Yeah, I do the show liveif someone paid me enough to do it,
but currently they're not. But anyway, as you're listening to this,
(25:56):
I am in the midst of atrek starting from Rochester, New Hampshire,
which, with any luck, weleft the house at four am. Uh
and uh not not NonStop. Iguess I'll have to stop to get gas
in pedi and whatnot. But headedall the way to Indianapolis, Indiana.
Which why are we going to Indianapolisin July? That's that's a fair question.
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Why are you going to Indianapolis?Ever, is also a fair question
and the answer is Uh. Cammakaysachas uh qualified for a bowling tournament out
there called Junior Gold and uh youhave to qualify at a regional tournament.
He's in the U twenty division thistime around, which is a lot smaller
than it's a it's a gigantic youthtournament. They have like U twelve you
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I don't know, like a bunchof youth divisions, and then the week
before they do the U twenty division. So if you're in college, you
go out there and if you dowell enough, you win scholarship money.
And uh, it's basically I'm drivingto Indiana to watch bowling, which to
some, uh may sound like anightmare, and I'm sure it will be,
especially the driving part, but it'sreally, uh, your kids only
(27:04):
your ear. And I guess he'sa Cam's an adult. But you know
what I'm what I'm learning as myas my kids have become adults. Chilly's
eighteen, Cam's nineteen, what I'mlearning is, uh, you never kind
of stopped looking at them as kids, or at least you don't when they're
they still kind of look like teenagers, right like. Uh, like Cam,
he's in college, he still kindof looks, you know, like
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he's seventeen. Eighteen. Uh,he still acts, you know, they
still act like kids, right like. Uh. As we were taping the
Ryan Nitty interview, I was onthe phone texting back and forth between Cam
A Chilly. Cam was supposed togive Kechelly a ride to work because it's
like one hundred and fifteen degrees outand of course he was sleeping. It
was ten o'clock, ten thirty inthe morning, and he was sleeping.
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And now that I'm an old,forty five year old dad, I'm like,
why is he still sleeping? Tryingto clock him the morning on a
Friday, not realizing up until Istarted working in morning drive radio that I
would I would sleep till like eleveneleventh. I would sleep the whole damn
day if you let me. So. You never quite stopped looking at your
kids as kids. I guess isis the lesson I'm learning. But you
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only get so many times where yourkids will like want you to be a
part of what they're doing, right, and then that time is like running
out, And then if they havegrandkids, you get to do that all
over again. But you also getto get to give the kids back at
the end of that time, whichis probably better. I'm guessing you don't
have to clean up after after themas much. But yeah, Cam,
as far as I can tell,And and part of it probably has to
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do with the fact that I'm Ipay for like the house we rent with
his college teammates and all that,and or split the cost with one of
the moms said, yeah, yeah, my discover card probably has something to
do with it, budd. He'sstill uh, there's still a lot opposed
to me to his old man comingto watch him do bowling tournaments, which
you know what, that's over andit's over. So you have to you
have to you have to do asmuch as that as you can. I
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think it's a parent When people askme for parenting advice, I don't have
a ton um because everybody's experience isdifferent, and my experience has been that
if you're going to parent correctly,and maybe maybe I've discussed this with Renee
a few weeks or months ago atsome point in the show with my wife
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Renee, this gen X. We'refrom Generation X. Renee and I parents
a lot differently than our parents did. And I think part of that was
because and I'm painting with a broadbrush here, but it's it's radio and
that's what we do. I thinkthe Boomer generation were lousy parents for the
most part, since you know,ar rescipes to my mom. I think
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she did the best she could,but I don't think she was that great
at it. Uh, And Iyou know, it's I think that's a
that's a common experience for people thatare Gen X. Parents were Yeah,
you know, they were like youwere kind of an accessory and something you
know that had to be dealt with, but ultimately you weren't. If you
know, you don't if you're agen X, you know. And if
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you're a boomer and you're upset andare offended by this, you were probably
part of the problem. But anyway, it's it's it's part of the part
of my parental little experience was thatif you're doing it correctly, it's like
being in jail. So you don'tdo a whole lot of things. Uh,
you you make sacrifices about like kindof being your own person, like
doing your own stuff. And thenwhich is not to say it's like a
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hardship because I really like my kids. I know, not everybody. You
know. The cliche thing is Imy kids are a pain to the ass.
Everybody's a pain to the ass atsome point. But you know,
my kids are very different. Uh. But they they both have like really
good qualities. Some of them Iwould like them to work on. But
I would say, like I'd say, they're both like ninety percent good and
(30:51):
like ten percent, Oh we canwork on that. But and I feel
like that's a good ratio. SoI like hanging out with them. I
don't do I want to hang outwith them all the time. No,
do I want to hang out withanybody all the time. No, do
I want to hang out with myselfall the time. Absolutely not. That's
why I come and talking a microphone, so I have to deal with my
own thoughts or make you deal withhim. But anyway, this is a
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long winded way of saying, it'snot a nightmare for me to drive to
Indianapolis and watch Cam compete in abulling tournament and with his college teammates and
Indianapolis. By the way, thisfeels like one long run on sentence,
But that's what you get when Ionly have one guest Indianapolis. We went
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out there a couple of years ago, kind of underrated as a city,
like it's not New York. It'sit's not like La certainly, it's not
you know, Miami, but it'sit's fine. I think people think when
you go out to Indianapolis, it'sgonna be a snooze fest, and we
went out there a few years agoand it was perfectly fine. I mean,
you know, it's the downtown's gotsome stuff centralized. The one thing
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I think people when they go toIndianapolis are surprised by is how close to
downtown the Colts Stadium is. Wegot a tour last time around my brother
in law, Brad, and myselfat cam This is twenty twenty one,
so we were kind of people werejust kind of emerging from COVID and starting
to do stuff again. And Brad, who's a Cults fan, was able
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to secure a tour of Lucas OilStadium with the Colts play. And it
is like right there. It isright downtown, like you turn around a
corner. I'm like, oh,look, it's a football stadium, which
you know, you know, GilletteStadium is in the middle of nowhere.
There's one road in, one roadout even to get to to I still
call a giant stadium because I'm onehundred years old. Even gets a giant
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stadium. It's kind of like ina giant parking lot in New Jersey.
So it's I don't feel like alot of football stad I think the one
of Nashville is kind of close todowntown, but there's not a lot of
professional football stadiums that are just rightthere, like you turn the corner and
it's right there. But Lucas OilStadium is. And we got a tour
of that, and it was justthe three of us because nobody, I
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don't think anybody realized that Steves weredoing tours again, so we kind of
we kind of got like VIP statusaccess and those people are into the Indianapolis
Colts. At least the tour guidewe had was because we you know,
Brad was in. We got tosee the field, the press box,
the locker rooms, the whole thing, and the you know, me,
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as a as a Patriots fan whowas kind of an a hole, took
every opportunity to uh to tweak theperson who was nice to us to give
us a tour of the entire stadium. I was like, oh, look
at the AFC finalists ban or isit that cute? And when we went
in the locker room, I thinkthis is I think vine Terry had just
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retired. So the woman who wasa lovely woman by the way, lovely
woman giving the tour, she waslike, oh, this is the locker
where our kicker, Adam vine Terry, uh you know, had his locker
last year. And I was like, you're a kicker. She's like,
yes, our kicker. I waslike, your kicker, and she had
very little sense of humor about that, like those people are they are all
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in for the Colts and I'm basingthis off the sample size of one woman
who gave me a tour of LucasOil Stadium two years ago. And I
assume that is how all the Coltsfans are. I'm probably right. Anyway,
when we come back, I'm gonnatalk a little bit about the mayhem
with social media that went down thisweek. The Twitter seems to be malfunctioning.
We got well, we got anew social media app, I Guess
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this week, which is blowing up, and I got a Blue Sky Invites.
We'll talk about all that coming upin just a little bit on overtime.
Keep it here, Welcome back toovertime, fourth and final segment of
the program. There's been a lotmore me in this episode than there has
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been in the past. We're stillexperimenting with the format. I think I
think the two guests format is goingto work the best. This past week,
a lot went down in the worldof social media. Twitter, as
we've talked about on this program before, is and I guess. I let
me preface this by saying, Ireally really liked Twitter. Liked past tense
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intentional there I Twitter. I'm notafraid to say it. Twitter was awesome
back in the day. It wasthe best thing for breaking news, it
was the best thing for sports.Those moments where like someone would do something
dumb on Twitter and if you onlyif you were extremely online like I tend
to be, would you know whatthe hell of what everyone was talking about
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the And if you're an extremely onlineguy, you'll remember the meet me in
Temecula guy, which I think thatwas like twenty fifteen. Like at Christmas
time twenty fifteen, some dude andsome other dude were arguing over something and
one of them challenged the other toa fight and said, meet me in
Temecula and that went on for justdays. It's still like a meet me
in Temecula as something you say whenyou're angrying someone but you don't actually want
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to fight them, or you're makingfun of somebody for being like too much
of a hard o tough guy.Just stuff like that, where someone every
day would become the main character ofTwitter, which was always your goal to
avoid being right. You never wantedto be the main character of Twitter.
So someone would do something dumb onTwitter and you would You could just bag
(36:17):
on them as a community forever,and it was so much fun. I'm
not afraid to say it. Ireally really like Twitter as it was right
up until the Nazis were bad,but they were they were taking steps to
like clamp down on the Nazis stuffand the white supremacy stuff. That wasn't
great, but it was like eightypercent good and like twenty percent bad,
(36:38):
or maybe like seventy five twenty five. In my opinion, I never got
like bully to ratioot on Twitter.It was good to write up until Elon
Musk took over, and this pastweek was a really good example of that.
So depending on who you believe oryou listen to, well, well,
I guess we'll start with the fact. So Twitter, right around July
first, people started getting these weirdthings where it was like, uh,
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rate limit exceeded, you can onlylook at four hundred tweets per day,
and everybody was like, what thehell is going on here? And Elon
Musk's it's something about like data beingscraped and blah blah blah blah. I
gave some technical explanation which probably madeup, and then I wouldn't understand anyway
even if it wasn't made up.But anyway, so it's like, oh,
we're working on the issue. Thenthere were some folks saying, oh,
(37:22):
look at this. Twitter is supposedto be playing paying this much to
Google for use of their servers,and they own a billion dollars today.
I don't think it's a coincidence thatthey owe Google this money and it appears
to have not been paid and suddenlyrate limits on Twitter our thing. It
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was right around that time that thatfolks that are extremely online like me and
on Twitter a lot like me,uh, started like reaching out for invites
to this app called blue Sky,which is I believe it's some of the
old Twitter folks, and right nowit's it's still in beta form. It's
invite only, and they're really notmessing around with having like uh, you
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know, like disinformation, racism,white supremacy, everything that Twitter has kind
of turned into. It's kind ofturned into what the app? What was?
What was the app that all theall the white supremacy parlor or gab.
Twitter's kind of turned into that almostat this point, just with a
lot more bots. So people wereheading to Blue Sky and I got a
Blue Sky invite from someone, anduh, it's nice over there. People
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are just kind of being nice toeach other and just you know, posting
like like twenty fifteen esque Twitter stufflike uh, like, oh, here's
a picture of my dog, brightenup your day. And I was like,
oh, I like dogs. It'skind of nice over here, but
there's not a lot of people overthere, so it's it's you know,
there's you kind of have to likelook at it for you look at it
for a bit, and then youhave to go back to it, which
(38:50):
is probably how social media should beused. Like it's probably unhealthy to sit
there on the couch just doom scrollingas I enjoy doing. I'm into recreational
status. But anyway, so thenand this was Wednesday night. So I
got back from Long Island Wednesday night, and it was tough to go to
sleep that night because my idiot neighborswere setting off fireworks to celebrate the fifth
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of July. I guess at likenine thirty at night, and I get
I get up at like three fortyfive. So I'm not a big fan
of that. So that was goingon, and then, like a writer,
around nine pm, all of asudden, Zuckerbird for the top prop.
Hey, here's this thing called threads. It's like Twitter, but it's
attached to your Instagram and people went, like thirty million people joined up in
(39:34):
the first first day or so,not really reading the fine print that like,
you can't if you delete your threadsaccount, you have to delete your
entire Instagram. That's how they getyou. Now, the problem with Threads
is and again, it just launchedtwo days ago, so I'm sure it'll
be better in like a month.The problem with Threads is is it's I
think it's almost entirely algorithm based,Like you can't sort by like when I
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go on to Twitter. There's anoption for me for now to look at
only the people I follow on Twitter, and all I have to do is
like see their chronological tweets, like, oh, here's what the New York
Times said, here's what here's whatAlex Lacas said, here's what David Roth
said. Oh that's great, here'swhat the shutdown foldcast said. And I
can just look at that in theorder that they happen. You also have
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the option to go to the fouththing, and it's kind of like an
algorithm based and it's a you know, like, oh, here's here's some
white supremacy stuff we think you'll like, and then you block that and you
don't have to see that again.Threads is just everything, like everybody got
on there and it's just right now, it's mostly brands talking to each other.
Sorry to slap the microphone, it'sbrands talking to each other and trying
(40:37):
to be like cute, and it'skind of it's kind of gross right now.
Like it's just the like brands sayinglike, hey, bestie, how
you doing, Oreos responding to Wendy'sor something like that. It's like,
ah, this isn't good either,So right now, none of the social
medias are good, Like Twitter isjust a hub of bots and white supremacy
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and Elon's apparently Elon Musk is throwinga fit because all the people he fired
from Twitter went to or a lotof them went to work for Zuckerberg and
developed this Threads thing, which there'sa lot of like Twitter esque things over
there. It's like a lot ofthe good things about Twitter, but it's
just brands talking with each other.So if you go to Threads, Zuckerberg
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isn't I guess he's a little betterthan Elon Musk, but he's still like
a gross billionaire, so it's it'snot like I want him tracking me and
finding my stuff, and also likeI can't really see the people I follow,
and also it's all my Instagram followers, which means it can be people
in my family. I want peoplein my family knowing the dumb stuff I
say about the Patriots or whatever.They have to hear it enough when they
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listen to the radio, or theyjust hear me screaming at the TV when
things are happening. So Threads isn'tgreat blue sky. I think it has
the belt most potential, but there'snobody over there yet. So there's so
I have to keep track of.I know I don't have to. You
don't have to tell me that.I know. I don't have to keep
track of any of this, butI kind of I do. So I
have three social media things. I'mtrying to keep track of all of them
(42:04):
and I can't. They all havetheir flaws and I kind of hate all
of them right now. And Facebook'sfor old people. Nobody cares about Facebook
anymore. That's that's over. Butso there you go. So I feel
like a man without a social mediacountry right now. I'm gonna stick with
Twitter until it dies. My hopeis. My hope is because all of
(42:25):
Elon Musk's supposed of wealth is tiedup in Tesla stock, which is vastly
inflated. I'm hoping there's a andwe're getting a little into weeds here.
I'm hoping there's a margin called bythe people that like own his debt and
he has to auction off Twitter andwill become good again. That's what I'm
holding out hope for. It's probablynot gonna happen. It's like the people,
(42:45):
let's say, remember when times weresimple and you knew dinner was going
to be served on the table,and you can live in a neighborhood one
and never have to see anyone thatdidn't look like you. I kind of
sound like one of those people,but not racist. But I do look
back wistfully on the old days ofTwitter before Elon Musk ruined it. So
there you go. All right,that's gonna do it For this week's show.
(43:06):
Depending on when I get back fromIndianapolis, you may either get a
rerun of a best of show Iguess. I guess best of is a
better way to say a rerun,or there may be some fresh new content
next week. But either way,if you missed a show live, listen
to the podcast, subscribing in yourfavorite podcast app. The bosses like me
to tell you to use the iHeartRadioapp, but subscribe on whatever format you
(43:27):
want. Like the show, reviewit, give us five stars, all
that other crap, and until then, I will see you next week.
And remember, hippies are bad peoplepretending to be good. Punks are good
people pretending to be bad. Theletter
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