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July 9, 2025 40 mins
Welcome back! KT, Kayla and Producer Jordyn are back and spilling more tea! In this episode the ladies talk about "pop-ups" and if they ever popped up on an ex. They also talk about the controversy surrounding this season of Love Island USA, and the racism that has taken place. The ladies talk about the use of racial slurs and the importance of education about them. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Petty Ish Podcast. Welcome back to another episode of
Petty Ish. I'm KT, I'm Caleb. What's good y'all? Oh?
Happy Fourth of July weekend? Even though we fucking hate
of America?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Fifteen days past June teenth weekend? A, what did you
guys do?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Did you guys celebrate they don't even do fireworks any
Did you guys realize that they don't do really fireworks
in LA anymore unless it's like the legal kind that
people are doing at their house, but they do drone
shows now because of the fires here in La.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, and the illegal fireworks and the damages that people
have been receiving, Like I heard people like lost fingers
and stuff, and there was a death this year. Like
fireworks are not okay. Yeah, however they were going off
for sure. Like if you're like in Englewood or Balwin
Hills or Koreatown, you couldn't sleep.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh l A go's crazy with the fire.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
And it needs to be wrapped up by Tuesday, if
not sooner, okay, not sooner, like, but I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Like my fifteen days after Juneteenth was freaking busy. I
was like three or four different things, and by the
end of it, I was just exhausted, but I did
have a really really good time, including karaoke with you Dollar.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh that's right. We did go and I made a
Long Island because we watched Love Island first, and then
we went to watch party and I made Love Island
themed palomas and Kayla did not like it.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
She was heavy on the grapefruit and I'm just not
a grapefruit band. But the taste itself was fine if
you love grapefruit, which is I don't do grapefruit like that.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
But I did finish it.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Now, I know, what did you name the bev?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
I didn't have to have one. It was like Love
Island ploma it was just.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
A Love Island paloma. Yeah, but I'm going to another
watch party tonight. I went to one last Sunday because
I remember how I was telling you how like you
go on TikTok and there's watch parties all over the
place this year, and like all over the all of
the country because this is probably like the biggest season
where everybody is watching. So I went to David Busters

(02:05):
last weekend. Tonight, We're going to the Nickel Mine, and
I just love it.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I feel like the marketing for the show truly needs
to be studied, Dave and Busters. I got there later
than the thing you all, and when I walked in,
it felt like people were screaming at a sporting game,
Like I got it, like football or basketball?

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Okay, it is for women.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'm like, I've never seen reality TV tape for the
culture like this.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
This is crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I love it. There is I forgot where I saw
it or what state this is in, but there is
a stadium that is showing it on the big screen
and you have enough people love Island watchers to fill
a stadium Like that's that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
And I was trying to tell my boyfriend about it,
like he's like, I never heard of it.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I don't know what that is. Wow, how do I.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Get where you are? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Like how do you avoid it? How do you avoid it?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I don't know at all? But yeah, So how was
your fourth joy again?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
It was?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, I went to Huntington Beach to see our homide DJ.
I wasn't really it was. It was Huntington Beach, so
you expect what you get, you know, it was.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
July.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
It was popping.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
So when you say that as somebody who's not from here,
like it's just hacked or it's hot, or is it
a certain crowd that it brings.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
A certain crowd.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
A little bit?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
No.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Actually, when I was there, there wasn't a lot of Trumpies,
at least not. There was no Maga hats. I didn't
really see catch it, but a lot of people celebrating America.
And ye I didn't make the parade, but I watched
it on the news, and it was just a lot
of like, you know, the flag was everywhere of the
American The American flag was everywhere.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
See when I think of Huntington Beach, I automatically think,
like because it is a very conservative area.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, I was a little bit. I was like a
little bit on my toes, like just keeping it all
around just to make sure their vibes were good.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
But the vibes were up.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I mean, I minded my own business. I uh, just
vibed with the people around me. Oh, there was a
lot of cool people, like they were all just trying
to get drunken party and the same.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
That's what life is about.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Hey man.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
The fireworks they were having, they did have fireworks.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
They did drones, no, no jones.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
It was the fire By the time I left the
club I was at. The whole town was just a
smog and like firecrackers crash everywhere. But it was a
good time. I got to eat some hot dogs.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Is it fifteen days at the June seenth? If you
don't need a hot dog? Seriously?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I like mine little burn, Yes, me too.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
What do you guys like on yours? I like the
relish and ohnaise and ketchup and like load.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I only like that when you're drunk and you're leaving
the club and you have the hot dog vendors on
the shop.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
They know how to make the like that's my favorite
thing about it.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
But yeah, just hotlis, catch up mustard onions.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Fun fact that I actually just talked about on the
radio today. Did you guys know that there is a
National hot Dog and Sausage Council and they announced that
a hot dog is not considered a sandwich?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
I did see that.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I did see that, And I also want to know
how do I become a part of the council?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Do you love?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Do you love hot dogs that much?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I enjoy hot dogs?

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Why do you want to be a part of them?
Why do they need a council.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Because a hot dog's not a sandwich and who saying
that it is? I think they need to be jailed.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
They were, like, it exceeds the expectation of a sandwich,
so it's in its own lanes. And why are we
debating us. I'm not about to go back and forth
with y'all on Twitter. But whether a hot dog is
a sandwich or not, I thought it was depends on
the day of the week.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I have time, have mercy.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
All right, what's the pettiest thing you did this week?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I didn't do anything petty this week because I am
happy and I actually was in Arizona and I was just.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Be and be happy.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I did it this week, maybe next week. But my
friend did tell me something petty. She did so her boyfriend.
She found out that he cheated on her on a
vacation with another woman, and he said that he was
going by himself, but she found out that he was
with somebody else based off of you know, social media
and people being in the same locations.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
So she ordered glitter and then put it all over.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
His house and that's like new Yeah, it was everywhere.
But then she broke up with him, and she said
that she thinks that him and her actually cleaned up
the glitter together him and the girl that.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
So I don't know who's the petty one in that situation,
but yeah, damn.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
She said, I'll let I'll help you clean it up.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Bay, I got you fuck her?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Oh my god, glittering and clean it up that girl?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Did you say? I have sex and the glitter they
cleaned it up. The petty is thing that I have done.
So I'm trying these hitting apps and it's exhausting, y'all,
it really is. But I started Facebook dating for the
first time. I didn't mind you for some reason. I

(07:07):
get so much love on Facebook dating and then like hinge,
like nobody likes me. But so I've been like, you know,
just swiping through matching with people. But I just I
don't have time to waste. I'm sorry, don't you know.
So it's either like we we connect instantly or I'm
not doing none of that slow burn, Okay, all right.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
I don't want to hear doesn't want to hear it
at all at all.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
So I so I would match with people and if
they didn't message me first, like, I can't stand dudes
that like want to be the one to be chased, right,
So we match, right, and I guess they expect me
to reach out first and say hey first. So the
match is kind of just sitting there and it's been
sitting there for like four days. You're unmatched, Like you

(07:52):
can say something to me first, like at least like
two of them, like I waved first, I think, But
like why I feel like it should be the man
that approaches the women like hey, like, nice to meet you,
how is your day? Like why do I have to
say something?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
He says all the time?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
And I got I had a really mad at me
for saying this to him, but I was like, you know,
Wendy taught me that sperm chases egg and it's like
simple biology, Like a man will just chase you if
he's not like chase, chase, but he will pursue you
because biology, biologically and evolutionarily, that's what he's wired to do.
And if he's not doing that, it's because he's just
not the one exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, so I don't have time. Also, if we are
having conversation and it's slow, automatically unmatched, what am I doing?
I'm not trying to like talk about your favorite color
and then wait two days until you were unmatched, So.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I exactly, I don't have time for a lot of
stuff I used to have time for.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, the clock is actually taken, and I'm mind you,
I've matched with like a lot of people, so I'm
just really just like unmatched, unmatch. Okay, you make the cut,
you can say like, I'm just.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
So.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
But I also started this thing where I'm not going
to be on dating apps during the week. It's exhausting
and I'll honestly like, I just find myself going on
it too much and it's just like occupying my brain
and areas that could be focused on other things a
my job, you know, other like my real relationships. So
I only use dating apps during the week on the

(09:19):
weekend because because it's not a priority for it's not
a priority for me to find a man.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
And I feel like that's also hand in hand with
just desensoring men, Like if it happens to me, it
happens for me. But I'm good and complete in my
everyday life without having to have that match or that attention. Yeah,
I think that's super healthy. I wish I had the
self control.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
They Yeah, these men don't deserve if they're not giving
you that time during the week, like, don't even give
them that kind of energy in the first.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Place, exactly, So you only got what Friday, Saturday, and Sunday,
and then you won't hear from me again because I'm busy, right,
you better make it count in those three days or
it's a rat here for me.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
That's all. I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
What's your betty thing.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I just discovered that I have a little bit of
road rage just a little bit after Just man, I
really try to keep my peace and I really try
to keep it cool with everybody that cuts me off
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
But just literally the other day, I was driving on
the freeway.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
There was a Porsche driving behind me like on my ass,
just like taunting, doing that little swivel thing.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Uh cool.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
I saw that slowed down immediately and I was in
the far left lane past the fasting.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I slowed it down.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
I hit like sixty five and there was someone next
to me that was going just to slow m I
love that little balance in between making sure that they
can't go around. So finally eventually he got around. He
has his window rolled down. I rolled mine down too.
I'm like, what's up or careful? I know, but like
bro don't impress me like that dude a bad day.

(10:52):
He's like throwing up his hands like what he's just
looking at And I'm like, what's up? Like is there
a problem? Just go around figure it out. Oh and
then I rolled up my window door. Get it was
such a bad day already, Like yeah, why are you?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
But you do, honestly have to be careful with that,
because I know some people who have gotten into verbal
arguments while they're driving. One person like hits the other
car gets out. It's a fight. Like you gotta be careful,
especially when you're dealing with like a man.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
No, Seriously. When I first moved here.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
And I got the job and news, one of the
biggest stories was it Gabriel Fernando, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Added that part.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
But one of the biggest stories was a road rage
incident where somebody flipped off a driver and he shot
into the car. And it's too many people, it's so
many crazy. It was like a super tragedy that happened.
After that, everybody's trying to find the driver that did it.
They found him. He's in jail. But like, oh, I don't
don't you know you got it? You got it, You
won My mindset in La but Patty things our listeners

(11:55):
have done. I'm nineteen years old and I've worked at
a dollar tree for about five months. I have started
feeling physical pain from all the restocking. My back is
constantly hurting, and I couldn't take it anymore. Last week
I skipped work. My job was blowing up my phone
and I just put it on Do not Disturb and
went back to sleep. I haven't went back since. Well, honey,
you likely don't have a job anymore to go.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, good girl, what about your bread?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
She's nineteen.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I get she must live with her parents because I'm
not quitting the job. If I got bills, the hustle
is not you know.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Let me tell you something I feel like. When you're nineteen,
that's the year to do it. Don't let the dolatry
play in your face. Your back, girl, you got your
back forever. You don't have you don't have dollatry forever.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
First of all, my boyfriend and his friends went to
the street food cinema this weekend and I wasn't invited.
Now there's a girl in his friend group who I
always felt uncomfortable about, and I knew she was going
to be there, so I decided to show up with
my friends.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
If you I ain't got trust with y'all, God, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I love that for her. She just came up like
I too.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
I'd be like, well, so man, like, oh good, crazy
to see you here. Oh hi, let's talk about this,
let's all hang it together.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I would dump both of y'all if I would say it,
I would.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Dump y'all, invite you and like you.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
If I was the boy and y'all popped up with
y'all friends, I'm dumb, y'all, I am.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Is that a little crazy?

Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's a lot of crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, maybe it's a lot of crazy. Maybe after a
few drinks, I probably did.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Why won't you just call?

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Like?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
But why wasn't I invited?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Why?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Because y'all are two individuals in separate, like in a
relationship with each other, with separate lives.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Clearly there's a girl that she feels uncomfortable about.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
So she that's a conversation with your man.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Why don't make me?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
You got to do it makes me feel comfortable, So
let me stop. Because you know I'm not the pop
up type like I would. I have so much pride
in so much like I would never let anybody see
me stressing out about another female, so to pop up
with like my friends and it just looks like I'm death.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
For it and my younger days, I definitely did pop up.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Have I ever popped up?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I have?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I have just to see I popped up to one
of my ex's houses, but he didn't know that pop
Like I staked out his house. Oh y'all haven't heard
this story, all right, so.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Pop up?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Okay. So, so basically we had broken up. We were
on like a little break and there was a situation
with another girl and so you know, we were not talking,
and me and my cousins went to his house and
she has like blacked out tinted windows and everything. But

(14:46):
I just wanted to see, like, while we're on our break,
is she at his house? Like, you know, like I
guess that, I just wanted to confirm, right, So we
were in her car, like literally right outside his front
his house, trying to look and see who would come
in and out of the house. And it was so
funny because he as we were I think we were,
you know, as we were coming, we saw him walking

(15:09):
his dog. And so we're driving on our way to
his house, like going up his street, and there he
is on the phone like with his dog. So then
we get into the parking we're getting we found a
parking spot and we're waiting for him to finish walking
the dog and walks around and we stayed there for
about like an hour to see if anybody else came out.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I thought she was gonna say five minutes an hour.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Maybe it was like forty minutes. I don't know, And yeah,
that was the probably this crazy thing. But I never
popped up and like confronted somebody.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I remember I was with my ex and I called
his phone a lot of times, like a lot, and.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
He wasn't what's a lot?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
What's a lot?

Speaker 3 (15:48):
What midible?

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Like that those people will arrest me if I say
the number was like NonStop, like like hang up, called back,
hang up, call back. He wasn't answering, So I drove
uh to his house. I was on my way to
his house, but I saw him at like a stoplight,
and I put my car in the middle of the No,

(16:10):
this window was rolled down and I jumped through.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
No no, no no no no no no no, no,
middle of the street.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
This is why I'm calm now, because that was really
some crazy time.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Wait, so you were in your car, you got out
and jumped in his window?

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Because why cut the cameras, cut the cameras.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
All right, that's the story of the day.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Why because why aren't you dancing my phone call? Why
aren't you dancing my phone call?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
So?

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, and so what did you do when he saw you?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Lunch through the window like a fucking crack at it?
I gotta be on crack because that's what that's what
those people are down on us, skin Rob be doing? Right?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Is that what you read my book?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
But yeah, no, because don't me not answering my phone
I'm saying now though that was back in the day,
delve with toxic people on toxic shit.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Aymen, we are deliver.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Witness.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
I have a little story. Okay, this was my ex, like, yeah,
from years ago. He was out with a girl. Okay,
so he went to a birthday party or a birthday thing,
a birthday dinner. I didn't know that it was with
the girl and her family. I thought it was like
with the girl and their friends. So I find out

(17:29):
one of my homies came in clutch hits me up
on Instagram. Hey man, are you and so and so
still together?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah? Like what?

Speaker 4 (17:36):
And he's like, all right, well, I see him with
a girl and like their family like kicking it, Like
are you sure. I'm like, yo, that's crazy. Send me
pictures asap, send me a photo saw it. I was like, whoa, Like,
I'm I'm sick. I called him straight to voicemail straight. No,
he didn't call me back, straight to voicemail. And I
was like, okay, I see him sitting there in that photo.

(17:57):
He's on his phone, so like that was trifling to me.
I'm like, okay, well, if you have time, can you
just keep videoing and.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Sending it to me. He's like I have to go,
but like figure that out. Ace up.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
And I still didn't break it off. I wish I did,
but it was a late night. It was ten o'clock.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
La.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
I was press.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
That's so messed up. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
I don't think I would have popped up either, especially
because it's with the family, and that's a that's a
whole different territory.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
It depends on what chapter I'm in life. This chapter, no,
absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
But back in the day.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Friends, amen, Amen? All right, can we tell. I know,
we talked about Live Island last week, but since it's
like the hottest topic, I want to discuss it again,
but also in a different light because there seems to
be an issue with this season with racism, and it's
really bothering me one because it's like, do you not

(18:59):
vet people hard enough before you cast them onto the show?
Because at this point, we're on our second person that
has said a racial slur. The first one was Ulyssa.
She was gone after episode two she thought it was
cute to say the end word in a podcast. Now
we have Sierra, who is a prominent person in season seven.
Right She were episode thirty in right now, and a

(19:22):
screenshot is circulating on the internet of something that she
said on her Instagram story back in twenty twenty four
where she was referring to her eyes as the C word, right,
and it was in a negative light and a negative connotation,
like something that she wants to change about herself because
of her eyes looking this way. So everybody is like,
oh my god, she needs to be kicked off the show.

(19:42):
Mind you we found this like this guy came to
light like a week and a half ago and episodes
are still coming out, and she's still on the show
as of July sixth at two thirty pm, Right, So,
I don't know. I just want to know what you
guys think about all of the racism. Did you know
that this was a racial slur? Because I know there

(20:03):
there's a lot of people saying that they didn't. Weren't
they didn't know that that was considered a racial slur.
What do you guys feel about it?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I do think that vetting is super super important. Actually,
we had today, I had a guest that was scheduled
on my show, and we did research and found out
that he owns a plantation and was question in Obama's
birth certificate and Elon and Trump are his favorite people
on this planet. I emailed him today like you were
no longer welcome to the show. I wish you the
best of luck with you whatever you're trying to promote,

(20:31):
but we are not promoting you on the show. So
vetting is super duper important, especially if you don't want
to be associated with things in that way. I did
know the C word was a racial slur. I knew
it was an offensive term. I do think that this
could have been an educational opportunity because I think for
the N word, there's no ignorance. You know that that's

(20:54):
a problem, like there's no question if there's no answer,
buts about it.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Historically that has always been a problem.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
We got the movies, we got the documentaries, we got
the books to prove it. I don't know when this
word became considered slurt. I'm not a part of the community,
but I think that this could have been more of
an educational opportunity and a conversation. But I don't know
what the outcome of it is because the episode hasn't
dropped yet. I understand she's not in the previews, but
it hasn't been confirmed that she's been kicked off. Is

(21:21):
it going to be a conversation. Is it going to
be a way to educate people, because a lot of
people did not even know that was a thing growing up.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
It never was a thing.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
You would smile and you would say, oh my eyes
look this way, or and it was just normal conversation.
So I don't think it's people are aware. I think
it's literally an ignorant thing more than a hateful thing.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I agree, and I think.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
In those kinds of instances, we educate we don't condemn. Yeah,
that makes sense. I agree, she wasn't illhearded than that.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, a lot of people are doing a lot of
thing pieces on TikTok and people are very very outraged
about this. I don't know if you guys have seen
her Instagram, but she was like eight hundred thousand followers.
Now that she lost like two hundred thousand.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Her friend also step off for Instagram too.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yes, that's another thing. Her friend who was running her
social media account kind of disowned her, which I thought
was kind of fucked up. But basically she was saying
which is crazy because at first, when people were saying
that Sierra was a mean girl, her friend who was
running her Instagram account got online on her live and
was like, y'all gonna be laughing in five days when

(22:23):
she reaches a million followers, and then the screenshot comes up, right,
and then it's like, oh, what were you saying? And
then the friend posts this long thing on her Instagram Like,
I've decided to step back from handling Sierras social media.
I do not condemn racial slurs. I don't agree with
her her views. I'm not, so I'm just gonna step back.
Her family asked me to turn off her comments. I

(22:47):
kind of have a I wish he just didn't say anything. Right,
Let's say Kayla was on Love Island, my best friend, right,
and I'm running her social media. I would want to
talk to Kayla first before saying anything or disowning her
or you know, literally unfriending her publicly before I she
mind you, Sierra doesn't even have her phone.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Anything that's happening, right, No, that's not your front.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
And yeah, I wish you would have just kind of
like handled it behind the scenes, Like if it's because
I can't imagine having millions of followers and millions of
people comment on somebody I love so dearly, so like
it probably would hurt me if if you have. If
I'm running kyla social media account and I'm seeing everybody
say all these hateful things that they don't know her,
and they're completely tearing her and you know, annihilating her character,
I would likely turn off her comments, not respond to anybody,

(23:34):
protect my piece, protect her piece, and then like when
I can talk to her and be like, yo, Kayla,
this is what's going on. But to me, like I
don't condemn that ship or condone I don't condone.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
That I'm not associated with that. I don't like that's
you were trying.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
To get clout for real, I feel like that for sure. Oh,
I'm running this Sierra's account. This is my opportunity to
to poo on her.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
And she had a collab with Cosmopolitics a cosmo Yeah,
she literally they gave her a whole article about how
she's running Sierra social media. This is like three weeks ago,
and that's a.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Huge opportunity for her. But you can't be I'm your
number one defender. Y'all gonna be laughing when are y'all
gonna be looking stupid? When she got millions of followers.
I'm fighting for my girl, and then two point five
seconds later, I don't know that girl.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
That's who you're gonna be going home at the end
of the day. That your whole relationship they're just dragging
through the mud.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Let me just say this right here, right now, if
that was me, that girl would no longer be my
friend going.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
For and yeah, she only cares about losing her followers.
Like and mind you, we don't even know who this
girl is. You even know who you are because of Sierra. Okay,
but again, don't like, don't support anything at Sierra about Sierra.
But I just thought, as a friend, like, I'm no, like,
I want to talk to you first before, you know,

(24:51):
before anything else. So I just thought that was really fake.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
And the screenshots in the first place, who's screenshot in
that story or who decided to do that that one time?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I don't know how.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
People be doing that. Okay. So that's another thing about
this story. Sierra knew it was a slur because another
screenshot came out somebody when she originally posted it back
in twenty twenty four or something, somebody had commented on
her story and said, hey, I don't know if you know,
but this is like considered offensive, and she wrote back, good,
good thing, I didn't use it in that way, right,

(25:21):
So she was made aware. So that personnel has released
those that text thread. So now it's like, okay, so
you're just choosing to be So that wasn't.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
The place to be educated that in that instance, because
if and I can only relate as a black woman.
So let's say there's somebody who lived under a rock.
They just came out today they said the end word,
and I'm like, hey, bro, oh you did have that
you had that experience where somebody tried to say the
N word. He said, Yo, you can't say. He's like,
I grew up in the community. Time You're like, I
don't care, you can't say it. He respected it. Going forward,

(25:50):
I think it's another it's a whole nother conversation when
it's like, hey, I made you aware of this, and
you're like, I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yes, it doesn't affect like I'm still going to say
the word. It just yeah, Hey, that's what it is.
She had the opportunity at the in that moment.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, so that in that instance educating. I guess she
was educated. She chose not to take the education and
chose to leave the post stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
I guess maybe it can be punished in that instance.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
But I do remember, like you know, I think growing
up we all had maybe white friends and they may
have like said the.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
End Have you ever had that a white person say
the end word?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, yes, and they just say it in a song.
They'll they'll be like, why would they create a song
if I can't say it's just a song, I'm just
singing the lyrics. Actually know somebody who did that. As
of last year, you know, in her big age of
thirty right, you know, and then me and my other
friend had to get on it, you know and tell people.
So people just don't. I don't know, it's you would

(26:42):
think it's twenty twenty five by now. Just don't do it.
Just don't do it.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
But I will say if I tried to educate somebody
and they and they didn't take like they were just
like I don't give a fuck. It's a rap lyric
or I don't give a fuck, it's just the word,
then you wouldn't be in my life either, Like that's
not a thing.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean, no offense to la, but people don't respect that.
Over here. I mean back in the East Coast, absolutely
no one's saying the N word if you're not black.
But over here, I mean, like I said, like the
guy that I was talking to, he literally was like,
I I mean, I basically have black in my veins.
But yeah, I have I have black friends. That's what
it's in my vocabulary. I grew up in the church
of a black and that doesn't matter to me. I

(27:17):
don't care.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
It's definitely a cultural thing.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I went to a show not too long ago and
the MC or the host of the show was saying
he was from I think Baltimore, and he was like,
when I came here was a culture shock, Like a
Mexican said the N word to me. And I'm like,
back home, each you would have got you asked me,
you can't say that shit, But here it's like I
get my ass meat if I try to address you
saying that.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Word, which is crazy, like but it's.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
And it's also so wild to me because it's just
you can't be racist at times and then try to
be a part of our culture. I hate that are
again our derogatory term is considered pop culture.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Like you know how many people.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Lost their lives over me and recalled that as they
were losing their lives, and that's just like a cool
word for you, like you just want to be down.
Like it just breaks my heart because it's like us
trying to own the world, where gonna get power into
the word by only getting making it hours and it's
like we can't even have that. Yeah, I hate that
for us, But that doesn't make the SEA word okay,
And that does not make cro okay. And if she

(28:12):
was aware of it, and she chose not to delete
or chose to defend saying something that can offend a
group of people, then her consequences or her consequences. But
I will not go as far as labeling her a racist.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
I mean, kicking her off the show if that's happening
is kind of crazy to me.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Well, I think I personally. Again, this is before Sunday's episode,
so we don't know what's gonna happen. This isn't gonna
come out to Wednesday, but I don't know. We only
have a week left of this show. Is people are like, no,
she still needs to be held accountable. Me, I'm like,
is it? I mean, she's not gonna get out one
hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
You know?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Do we keep her on the show. But another thing
that I heard someone say is it's taking so long
to do anything about it because they have to vet
it with Instagram to make sure that it's not a
fake screenshot. Right, So they actually have to go to
Instagram and make sure that this is authentic because if
it isn't and somebody actually, like you know, screenshot at
it or photoshopped it or whatever, Sierra can sue Love

(29:09):
Island or Peacock or whatever. So they have to go
to Instagram, make sure this is something that she posted
from her account, and then they can be like, Okay,
now we're gonna remove her. So if she's gonna be removed,
I believe it'll be either tonight or they're not gonna
do it at all.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
And it will also be unfortunate just because it's called
Love Island and I think that she's like one of
the only people in this season that has a genuine connection.
Although he made it quite clear last episode, I saw
that this is not a relationship outside of this. Yeah,
I don't even know you, but as far as relationships
and love connections, they have more than anybody else does

(29:47):
in the house at this.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Point, I would say her feelings for Nick are very
very genuine Nick's feelings. I feel like Nick has a
special place in his heart for Olandria. So I don't know,
we will see, but either way, Like again, let's bringing
it back to educational moment. I think Love Island needs
to address it on the show or aftersun have it
sit down and talk about bring bring up people of

(30:10):
color who can tell you, tell the story of why
this is hurtful to us, and hopefully they take the
seize the opportunity to do that rather than just brushing
it off and just kicking her off the show. It
needs to be stated this happened twice in it in
a season. This is like crazy, do better with the casting, bros.
Not that hard to find other beautiful people with no problems.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yes, right, there's that.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
And I do understand the Asian community saying that their
natural features are not a flow because they are beautiful.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Amen. Okay, So my petty Award of the Week is
probably going to go to everyone who unfollowed Sierra, including myself. Girl,
I had to get up out of there, like, and
then I also want to give it to the Love
Island producers for slowly editing her out. They're like soft
launching her dismissal from the Fiji island. But yeah, like

(31:00):
she was at almost a million followers and then we
all collectively decided one she is a mean girl because
she has been kind of mean on the show.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
I hate that narrative, y'all.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Why I'm let y'all go off speak about it then,
I mean, I just I'm not a hood of defender.
I feel like Hooda did way worse and now everybody's
defending this girl when they she was much more mean
to Iris and everybody else that came after Jarmont High.
How is she now Jesus because she has white skin
and a fat ass and a beautiful face. So these
darker girls are now mean girls? Like I think it's racism.

(31:32):
I think the public opinion, y'all, y'all be swaying too
much for me. Like these these women, especially Shelley, I
think she is authentic. I think she articulates her feelings.
I think she does it in a respectful way. And
I think when she gets too emotional, she takes a
step back rather than shooting at the hip, whereas Hooda
shoots at the hip calls people bitches.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
How is she not a mean girl? How is she?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
And I'm not saying like you know, it sucked when
she had nobody else on her side and all the
other girls were friends with each other. It sucks when
nobody stands beside you. But I don't think that genuine
friendship and genuine connection makes you a mean girl. They
just all seem to align on that fact. And I
think Hoodah should be If they're a mean girl, the
hood should be a mean girl too.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I'm not necessarily defending Hodda specifically Sierra y. I think
so she is a mean girl.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
One.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I felt like nobody defended a Maya when she was
getting ganged up on by the men. I am a
big person on defending my friends and speaking up when
something isn't right. I feel like a Maya is somebody
that always was vocal when everybody else was done wrong.
But as she was getting like, al is that a
obliterated or like demolished by these men just ganging up

(32:40):
on her, nobody sat there. Everybody just sat there quiet. Everybody,
including Houda is a mean girl for that? That is
not What about the guys? No, but no, Brian stood
up and defended a Maya. Okay, so another reason why
I think she's a mean girl. What was her reasoning
for not this isn't? Basically, when Chris was up there,

(33:03):
she was like, why are your intentions you're how do
we know that your intentions with a hood are pure?
Or whatever her was on her note, and then she
was like, well, we don't see that. And it's like,
why does Chris have to prove to Sierra that his
intentions with Hooda are pure just because you don't see it,
but he's talking to his boys about how much he

(33:24):
likes her, and he was she was just like, well,
you need to say that more. I just thought it
was just like a nasty spirit. He just she just
doesn't like the fact that Chris likes Hooda because of
her friendship with Shelley. Cool, but like, come on now,
I just feel like she has has like an or
about her that just gave just mean. I also don't
like how And again I'm not defending Hooda because she

(33:46):
is just as bad. But when everybody, but listen, when everybody,
I think I saw I was bullied so badly. When
everybody was sitting on the couches and Hoodie was working
out by herself, they were talking about her and laughing
about her. Hood Of looks over and smiles and they go,
that has been done to me so many times in
my life. That is mean girl behavior. I don't give

(34:08):
a fuck what your skin color is like. That's just
plain and simple, not defit. Just in that moment everything
Hooded did up until that point calling people bitches. She
even called Iris a bitch. She should be condemned for
that too. This whole season has been a ship show.
Nobody I don't like anybody. So what I'm saying in
that moment and that moment, Sierra, Shelley, all the people

(34:29):
that were laughing, that's mean girl behavior, period. That's how
I feel.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I think that all the girls need to be on
the same playing field. Then if Shelley, Sierra, and Aludria
mean girl, did all the girls of the season and
mean girls because they've all had moments for the act again,
with the exception of Amaya.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
And Adrianna, definitely was a meaning.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I feel like I agree when she was alone and
she was and she had no friends or nobody in
her corner, that was super hard to see.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
That was super That wasn't fun.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
But I think that all the girls are on the
same page and I just can't isolate these girls while
ones followers are growing and everybody else's is diminishing. I
think she should be on the same playing field as
all of them, and that's where I'm coming from with it.
But that is mean girl behavior. To agree with your point, Kayla.
When they laughed at her, that was not okay. Yeah,
but I don't.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I think it's just struck me. But again, I'm not
defending her. I don't the whole season is trashed me.
So yeah, yeah, yeah anyway, so yeah, I'm gonna get
my Petty Award to everybody who unfollowed her because it
was with the quickness and then yeah, the soft launch
for her getting off the show. The editors are really
doing their thing because we don't see her no more.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
All right, We're gonna see what happens when the episode
drops tonight. I don't know if you saw this video
that went viral, but there was a man in court
for child support with multiple children and multiple children's mothers,
and he had his shirt that said black Excellence as
he was about to be whatever in front of the judge,
and the judge called him out.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I love, she said to them, careless to it? What
are their ages for three, two, one, six months?

Speaker 5 (36:06):
And where are they? Who are they with? How many mothers?
All right, that is not black excellence. The fact that
you're here is not black excellence unless that's the name
of a building, but I'm assuming it's not. So you
are not showing black excellence to your ancestors.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Or to your mother, your grandmother, or anyone.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
You understand, So don't wear black excellence if you're not
showing it.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yes, do you have any children?

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Wait, of crying, I'm crying. That automatically gets it. Are
you that was? That's funny as hell? Congratulations?

Speaker 6 (36:53):
Yeahy a nation. Okay, let's see a nation.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
All right.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Now it's getting to petty mail. Hey, Kayla, Kayln Jordan.
I have a close friend who I've known for years.
We've seen each other through a lot, and I truly
value our relationship. Lately, though, I've noticed a shift that
I can't quite name without feeling a bit petty. It's
nothing dramatic or toxic, just subtle dismissiveness. For example, when
I share something i'm excited about, excited about a personal goal,

(37:30):
a small win, even just a new book or idea,
she'll either brush past it, make a joke, or change
the subject. It's not cruel or vertally negative, but it
leaves me feeling a bit shut down, like I'm being downsized. Meanwhile,
I always try to show up for fully, and when
she shares her own life, I don't think she's being
intentionally hurtful, but I can't tell if I'm being overly

(37:50):
sensitive or if it's something I genuinely should address. I
don't want to turn it into a big deal or
make her feel accused. I just missed the ease and
mutual support we used to have. Well, love your thoughts
on whether it's worth bringing up. If so, how do
I go about it with grace and clarity? Thank you
so much for the space whole conversations like.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
This sounds like be simone, I know, right. I don't know.
I'm just somebody who's so big on celebrating your friend's wins,
and like, if your friends aren't genuinely just as excited
as you are, I always feel like there's some type
of anamas or hater raid in there too. You're a
jealousy of some sort, and I've dealt with that so
many times, So I don't know. I just just keep

(38:31):
an eye out of for it. It Also, just don't
share your wins with this friend because not everybody can
celebrate with you. So maybe she's just not the friend
to celebrate with. But go where you will be celebrated.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I feel like even with the whole bet some own thing.
Joe Biden made a really good point on his podcast
where he's like, you know, even when you have good
New Years, you're kind of careful about who you share
it with because you just don't want to kill the vibes.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
There's nothing wrong, nothing worse than when.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
You're like on a high you try to share that
with somebody you love and they immediately burst your bubble.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
I hate that so much.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I don't think you deserve that, and I feel like
you know, in this chapter, I'm all about protecting my
peace and protecting my happiness, and if anybody kind of
takes away from that, then I just have to take
a little bit of a step back, because nobody's entitled
to your happiness or your winds, and I think protecting
your piece is is what's important right now.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
I would say too, or add to it, like, uh,
if you really want to know and if it's really
hitting you hard right now, to definitely have a conversation
about it, That's something that I would do. Be like,
hey man, like Loki, I've been feeling a little down.
Every time I share something with you, I'm not getting
like the energy that I feel like I deserve. I
would like, how are you feeling with me? M type type.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I like that phrase, how you feeling with me?

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I like that Jordan, very mature.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, all right, it's time to go three hours to
Love Island. Guys. Literally, I don't even know what I
have coming up. Love Island is only a thing that's
been occupying my brain. I do have a few interviews
with some up and cooming artists, which is what I
love to do. I love interviewing new artists even more
so than like the artists. And then that's it. I
can't think of anything else.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Well, I've been getting a princess treatment.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I'm super happy as my first time ever experiencing it,
it's been amazing, So I'm pretty sure that's going to
continue this week. And that's all focused on right now.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I was so geeked up for you
right now.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
I love seeing your stories and how happy you are.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
So only in the close friends though, because I haven't
heard launched.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's coming. We made it smart. Protect your peace.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
That's it. That's about see you next time.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Bye,
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