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April 2, 2025 • 40 mins
It's been almost a year! KT and Kayla took some time off to explore other ventures and opportunities but now they're back for season 4! In this episode the ladies discuss what has been going on in their lives the past few months. They talk about dating life, career growth, and also share personal stories about how this past year has changed them. Grab your wine and ENJOY!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Petty Is Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh my god, this feels weird.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hikela, hike, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Welcome back to the penny Ish Hi that we haven't
said that in How long?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Can I said? We take three weeks off? It was
like a year and a half.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
No, it was not a year. It was it was
like nine months.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Wouldn't we stop?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I want to say it.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Was July, July, August, September, October, novembery December, January, February, March.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, so nine months.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
A year and a half. It seems like it feels
like it might as well have been.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Okay, Hi, guys, welcome back season four?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
We're doing? Is it? Is it three or season three?
I think it's season four?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
He's a four.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I don't girl.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
We don't welcome back. We're still not organized, Like we
don't have a rundown.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
We have nothing.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
We just turn on the mics and go yeah, which
is like what I learned in radio, which are not
to do. That's like rule number one, don't just turn
on the microphones and go.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Well, I think in this case we can do that
because it's our first episode back in such a long time,
and we have a lot of catching up to do
just let's just talk what happened? Where will we been?
What have we been up to?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, first of all, I want to say a lot
of people were like, oh, you know, are you guys
still friends?

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, of course we're still friends.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Why would we not be because Kayla's blocked Daddy, I've
been lucky enough not to be blocked by her just yet.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Okay, not yet, it's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
And then also, Kayla, you started your own thing too, so.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I guess we're like what happens to petty ish?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
But honestly, I will say I had both of us
had a lot put on our plates within the past
nine months, but me especially and I know, like Kayla
was like, Kayla, we need to make this happen. We
need to, you know, bring this podcast back. And I
was like, I literally don't have the mental capacity to
do so because my job is putting more and weren't

(02:00):
more on me, and we all know I had that
vocal cord injury, so like, I can't just I can't
do six shows and then could also do all an
hour long podcast and just it was over extending myself.
So something had to give, I guess, And and then
it just became month after month after month after month, and.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
You know what I think, Like, honestly, I could never
knock it. I can never be like, how dare you
not prioritized on podcast? Like girl, you live in LA,
you work for Kiss FM, like you have to handle
your handle. You gotta handle with paying your bills hand
you know, help the mouths that are feeding you, feed.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
You, feed the mouse that helps you. Huh. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I don't know what I'm trying to say, but that's
what paying your bills.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
So you got to take care of that first and foremost,
grow your brand, grow, which you've really moved out here for.
And Petty Ish was going nowhere like whenever you were ready,
I was gonna be ready. And Yeah, in the meantime
while we were taking off, there was so much that
happened for me in my career as well, new shows
inside and outside of radio, new big clients that just

(03:03):
are amazing. I can't believe what my call log looks like,
Like only real niggas on my call list type shit,
Like that's that's the type of stuff I'm going right now.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yes, and we're gonna we're gonna get into the details
about all of it, but I will say what never
has changed is our friendship. I see Kayla, well, we
hung out like when we could write again. We're very
busy grown adults that like are constantly making moves and
making things happen. But I saw Kayla at least like
three four times a month.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
And even if we didn't see each other, Like That's
the really beautiful thing about our friendship is I think
that we're not like fair weather friends where you know,
obviously I'm always gonna pull up when it's time to
turn up, but at the same time, like you want
to call me to vent about X, Y and Z,
I'm there for that too. In the same vice versa
like Kayla, you wan't to believe what this nigga just did,
or Kayla, guess what happened at work. It's like you

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will always toilet in the bed wherever you are, you're
going to answer.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
And that's I think what makes a.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Real Yeah, this girl's my best friend, and this is
like this podcast has done just amazing for our friendship
and it was just like the starting point of our friendship.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
But we go so much more beyond the microphones. You know,
we're doing.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
We're always together, We're always doing different things. We have
a group of friends that we have you know, you know, cultivated,
and we have a whole life. And but we're excited
to be back and to share that with you again.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
And yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
What headline did you feel like? For me?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I feel like I'm so mad Pettyish isn't around right now.
When the Diddy news was breaking, I'm like, Where's I
have so much to say?

Speaker 4 (04:39):
There were so many things that I wanted to talk
about on Pettyish, Like, let's say, the Diddy thing is
one other one, Wendy Williams, Oh my god, what else happened?
There was a lot of tragedy that happened at the
beginning of the year two, like the wildfires and the
plane crashes that happened at my hometown, and so like,

(05:00):
I don't know, I didn't have an outlet to like
vent about it too, And that's usually what Pettyish is,
what other breaking?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
There were so.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Much there was so much, I know, I definitely felt
it with with the wildfires. I definitely felt it with
Wendy Williams, who.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
I heard is really close conservative ship, Praise God. I
don't know, some type of I've.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Been off all day.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
This morning, Kayla texted me like a message like hey, Kayla,
the uh sky is blue and the grass is green.
I'm like, yeah, but Kayla, what about when the sky
is blue and the grass is green? And when Kayla
didn't respond, like what did I say? Like my mind
just isn't working today at all. It's been like that
since I woke up this morning.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
But either way, there was so much that happened, and
we're glad to be back because you know, we always
here to report the tea and give our opinion about
it and unfiltered and we don't give a fuck who
hears and zone. That's why we pettyish and that's why
we always get him block. That's yes, our mouths always
get us in trouble. But you know what, that's what

(05:58):
I love about us.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know what I is the pettiest thing done to
me over the break I just found out like one
of my ex really close friends who I was really
there for sins called me at like.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Three o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
I would answer, listen to you for hours and hours
about how you're having a mental break down, exchanging my
mental peace for you, and I found out that this
bitch hait me from seeing her Instagram story.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yay.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Was there a fallout? No, So then how did you
find out that you can't see her story?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Her drama was becoming a little bit much for me, honestly,
So I was trying to distance myself anyway because I'm like,
you know, I'm there for you, but I think it's
to the point where it's taken away from me and
your issues are triggering really deep wounds that I have,
and that's just I ain't got time for that at
this time in life. So I already made the chance,
like I'm not really gonna answer her phone calls or
like really talk to her as much anymore.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
But then she never call me anyway.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
So I don't know what story she told herself, but
I think we just mutually decided to be done with
each other at the same time.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
And I don't know if that life.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Social media that takes effort, like you don't even want
me know what's going on, Not that I give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
It just mean to me that means like she didn't
want you to see something.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
And I feel like, are you talking about me? I
don't know, what do you have this because you got
my number? And then I'm still like, you know, I'm
a good person because even though I cut her off
and it's before I realized she hit me from her stories,
I still wish her a happy birthday because I'm.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
A good person.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
You should have click unsend and I.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Guess my birthday just passed not too long ago, and.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
She didn't say nothing, not a damn thing. Blocked.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Blocked. I mean, I'm probably blocked, that is, But bitch,
what's the pettiest thing that you've done on the pettiest
thing that happened to you?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
The petty girl? Honestly, I can't even I don't. I
feel like I nah, I can't say that the pettiest
thing that I've done.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Okay, So I'm in my my dating era for the
first time, I think, like right after So I got
out of that relationship what like a year and a
half ago, and for an entire year almost I didn't
really talk to anybody, you know, like I would give
my number out and never really call anybody back. Like
I wasn't really interested. I was so engrossed in pilates

(08:07):
and dance and healing and stuff. So recently, I as
of like what November, December, I've been back outside, like outside,
like big outside. Okay, So I feel like I'm going
through the phase that I should have went through in
my twenties.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
It's never too late dawning, but it's very fun.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I've always heard that dating in La could be either
tragic or very very fun, and for me, it's been fun.
I've been you know, open, I've been saying yes to everything.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
I honestly, one of the other reasons that this took
a little while to come back is because me and
Kayla we had to have meetings because I feel that
we have grown and elevated since we've kicked off, well,
you kicked off the podcast a while ago when you
were back east. When we kicked it off out here,
you know, we were talking about should it still be
petty ish because we don't really do petty stuff anymore.
Like so, I think that's another reason why it was

(08:56):
hard to think of the pettiest thing you've done, like, yeah,
we should.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
And I also remember how we like there was a
time where we were like, oh, we should bring it
back now, but then it was like the climate, it
was like the fires, and there was so much going
on in the world, and we were like, this isn't
the time to bring back a podcast called Pettyish when
nothing's funny.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Right, niggas lost their home, Yeah, they lost like it.
It was actually, honestly, that was historic being out here
for that and seeing how many people that you love
being impacted. It was so hard. It wouldn't feel right.
It just would feel so wrong to be on microphone
talking about something.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So yeah, the pettiest thing I've done.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
With Yeah, yeah, And had we already been in season
and that happened and we would have navigated it.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
So are you okay? My coffee went down the wrong pipe?

Speaker 4 (09:38):
But I'm glad we would have navigated it so much differently,
of course, you know what I mean. But yeah, it's like,
do we keep the name Pettyish?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Is this still? Because I know horrible decisions? Right, I
talked to you about this.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
They recently rebranded and changed it to Decision Decisions, But
they were horrible decisions for like ten years first, right,
And mind you, they're both older than us, They're like
in their upper thirties and they are still doing horrible decisions.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
And I think, like that's okay, that was their brand.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Like we've never started this saying like we want to
be the holiest, best example for people. We just want
to be a place where people can laugh and relate
to because a lot of people, even if you are
in your upper thirties, you are petty. You know what
I mean, right, and so like, so it's like, I
don't know. I just felt like people come to different

(10:26):
podcasts for different things, and if you want something different,
then you won't come to our podcast, right, And there's
also a way of keeping our pettish brand but also
showing our growth and our elevation.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
And we've grown so much. I feel like since like
the start of the podcast, not only have we grown
as friends but as women who are navigating la and
we have just accomplished so much. So I feel like
going forward, I don't know if this structure is going
to be the same worst, Like this is what are did, petty,
and I'm going to talk shit on everything because there
are still people that don't.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Speak to me till this day.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I said on this show, and I just didn't realize
how many people listen, Like this show has burned some
bridges to me.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I held you, So anybody can get it on it.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Apparently I can get it too, because they definitely blocked
my eyes.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I don't know going forward how much Ray we're going
to be going to be able to deliver the petty
side Eddie Ish. We might really be on the ish
side for season three, four, whatever season this is.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Yeah, And I think like our personalities are the exact same,
I mean, like as they always been. Kittle's who she is,
I'm who I am, and I have a petty side
to me. I have a snarky side to me as
super sarcastic, like you know what I mean. So that
is the element of pettish, you know what I mean.
So our personalities haven't changed. But I'm not about to
go out of my way and be petty to somebody

(11:46):
just so I have content on.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
The podcast, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
But like there are things that I would naturally do,
you know. So we're just trying to figure it out
and we hope that you like stick around to figure
it out with us. But the name Pettish isn't going anywhere,
especially because it's just unique and different.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
And yeah, so you.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Said the pettiest thing you did was being a fuck
boy and navigating it that.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, wait, let me know.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I want to know how has dating been in that
life for you. Let me wait.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Clar if I say a fuck boy, I would say
like I I like I said, I haven't dated multiple
people at the same time before, Like I was always
in a relationship back when I was in college or
before or it was like I was stuck, impressed and
obsessed with one person. So this is the first time
that I've allowed myself to literally go on one date
with one person and then next day like I'm with
somebody different. And it's not that I'm like having sex

(12:30):
with all these different people. It's like, no, I go
out and I experience them, and I see what I'd
like and what I don't like.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I let them want and die me.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I say, you know, I've learned character traits that I
absolutely do not want enough future husband. I've learned things
about myself when it comes to being with other people,
and it's just been a.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Trial and error type of thing. This is just not
not something that I've ever done before. Honestly, I've never
dated around. So I guess that's me being like, oh
my god, I'm like, dating multiple people.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Can wild, but I feel like that is what dating
should be. I feel like I wish I navigated my
life like this in my early twenties. Yeah, because giving yourself,
all of yourself and all of your mental energy and
physical energy to one person, that's literally embarrassing the.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Fuck out of you.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Behind your back, it's for the birds, like this is
the way it's supposed to be. Because this, I haven't
been put down in a long time, because I I
continuously keep my feelings distracted with other things, even though
I will say I did suffer a little bit.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Of a heart break.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
The accent.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
The accent is if you listen to good I was
big hate, but I recovered and I did some DIY projects.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
You put some lashes on.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I did. I did.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
She can't be here like I put some lashes on.
I'm doing. I'm getting over him.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I literally can only put like four on.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
And you look, you do that, you look.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Thank you, thank you, thank you. But no, honestly, that
that actually that heartbreak. That heartbreak actually happened like last year.
But I feel like I will continue to navigate my
dating life in this way where nobody has all of
my attention into all they show that they are worth
it exactly, and I thought he showed it, but then
he hit me.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Oh cut, yeah, cut cut, But no, you're absolutely right,
like man, And it's nice too, like just you know,
texting multiple people, having multiple people as.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
A tinge, it's nice, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
And I don't know, I just like you said, until
somebody shows me that you deserve to be the only
one that I am talking to right now, Like then,
why don't I why can't I have the freedom to
go to catch one day with one person and then
cast away the next with another garden?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I mean it, we should go that part.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
And I also feel like the caliber of men that
I am attracting is out of this world. Never thought
of what happened for me type energy, Like oh wow,
like you who has all of this you know, for
lack of a better word, theme and money and access,
and you're pouring that into me like that.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
That's something this little Atlantic City, New Jersey girl thought
that she never experienced.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
You know, I was used to go to the courthouse
and put money on my ex boyfriend's charges.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
She was down bad, y'all, she was down bad. It's Okay,
I was right there with you. I paid all the
bills in my last relationship. Okay, so what now that
I'm dating? Listen, that relationship taught me that what I
will never ever do again. And so now that I'm
you know, dating right now, and it almost feels weird
and uncomfortable to have a man pay for me. That's

(15:51):
how traumatized I am. I like naturally will put out
my card or say, oh, you want to split this?
Or if he's like paying for drink after meal, after this,
after this, I'm like, oh my gosh, does he even
have the money to be doing this? Like maybe I
should offer the pitch, you know what I mean. And
it's because like that's what I.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Am used to and that a person.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yeah, and one guy I was dating was like, Kayla,
like you don't relax, like you because I was just
getting so anxious about it, you know. And so and
of course I'm willing to like pay for something for something,
but like right now in the early stages, like no,
it's okay for me to want to be like I said,
wind and dine treated and you know, flaunted around.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
You know, I deserve it, You deserve it.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
I I know the transitioning period of trying to get
comfortable with being treated and being you know, the woman
in the relationship for lack of a better word, because
I know we don't really oh my god, sorry, I
know we don't really subscribe to that kind of narrative
in twenty five.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
I used to when I got out of my relationship
where I took care of everything. I was a waitress
at that point in time, and when I got into
the habit of the check and giving it to the woman,
like because I was so used to paying for everything.
So it takes a while like unlearned what was so
effed up and normalized that that's not the way it's
supposed to be. Ever, and I can't like I will
not reach for my card, like that's not a thing.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I needed to literally like force myself, Kayla, it's okay
if it's like a little awkward moment like I was,
I'm just afraid of that awkward moment, or or for
him to be like, oh, you're not gonna go half
with me, like I just half expect that.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
And so I had to literally be okay with sitting
back and being like, no, he's he's the man.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
He can take care of it.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
You don't have to you don't have anything to prove,
you don't have to prove that you have money to
or anything like. It's okay to sit back into that
feminine energy. And that's another thing that I've discovered over
the past few months, is that like a feminine energy
that I always kind of hid and learn it. I
learned that I can be submissive to the right person, right,
I guess in my last relationship, like I mean, I

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paid the bills and then he also wanted me to
cook and clean and for him, and it was just
like made me just so hard, and I didn't want
to do anything for him. I didn't even want to
be cute around.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
The house for him.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
It's like, I'm not eve gonna get dressed up like
you want to get the disgusting version of me.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
But now I'm able.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
To sit in my like domininity, yeah, and actually like
embrace it and let myself be taken care of.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
And it's very very nice.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
It's so nice when you have a date and you
just need to know that all I need to grab
right now is my lips, my lip lin exactly. I'm
not bringing any cash. I'm not bringing my card yet.
I know this man got me and that's such a
good feeling.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
It's such a good feeling.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
And also I've learned a lot of myself with my sexuality.
I guess that's what you want to call it, Like
I definitely have learned or what I like and don't
like more and also like having conversations about that and
pleasing and when a man actually asks me what I like, like,
oh my gosh, what that's a thing?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
You know, Like I feel like I'm.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
In an era where I'm actually being satisfied now.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
First, sorry, fun huttiest thing you did this week?

Speaker 4 (19:06):
No, but I'm learning people, and that the person is
actually learning me, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I never had such.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
A healthy conversation about what that looks like too, Like
you can have a conversation about like, Okay, this is
what I like, this is what you like, and can
you do more of this without a being weird?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
And so I'm just I really feel like I'm turning
thirty one next week, like I'm going through what I
maybe a lot most people went through at twenty three,
four or five, but like I'm just now allowing myself
to do it right now.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, I definitely I feel that growing with somebody on
that level is like next level intimacy where it's like,
I really want to learn how to please you in
the way that you want to be pleased and deserves
to me please.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
I definitely took a long time off of sex myself
while we were on break. I considered myself some little
bit on my life show I talk to my other
show that.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I've created, ya gonna talk about it too.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I talk about how solibate I am and how we're
celibate gang. That has since changed because we were ahead
of on the recording, so that was like a long
time ago. But taking that time for myself, I'm really
focusing on myself really helped me to unapologetically have sex
for myself, you know, because before, like at a certain age,

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when you're doing it, you care about the other person's
pleasure and doing everything so they feel good, and it's like, actually, now,
this is what I want and this is how I wanted,
and give that to me.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
And it's so nice to drive.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
The car and it's also just so nice to be
like to not have to pretend or and I'm learning
to speak up for yourself and say no, wait, what
about me? You know, like what about like and be
honest and say no that I wasn't satisfied, like I've
had had those conversations that I'm and I was like

(20:57):
so proud of myself too, Like am I actually telling?
Because you know, we all we've as who when we've
all faked it before, and we've all like just to
please his ego. I'm in an era where I don't
give a fuck. Okay, I don't care about your ego.
I'm not gonna gash you up just because like, if
I'm not happy with what's going on, if I'm not satisfied,
then I'm gonna be vocal because not being vocal had

(21:21):
me so miserable before, and I refuse to do that again.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Rihanna said it, baby, if I don't feel it, I
ain't faking No. No, I got this look that I give,
like if you finish and I have not, I stare
at you, like with the biggest look of disappointment in
your eyes.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Wait, I can't what can you do? Please? I can't
do it.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Please God bless you, please, I can't do it. I'm
not disappointed. Three okay.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
One, it's like it's like I don't.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Know, like like really like ugh, yuck, like this.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Mega, you buy me some food now I'm hungry. The
funck was that ship? And then they make up, well,
they try to make up for it at times. Yeah, yeah,
it's about me and the shaff chapter.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Yeah, I'm I'm glad that me and you are both
very It's okay to be selfish, right, it's okay, And
it's okay to date multiple people. Yeah, it's okay today,
multiple people.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
It's like it's patriarchal like, and they made women believe
like we got to be faithful to one man. Like
I watched these old movies and these old shows, and
I just see how they were priming our mind to
think that we have to act in a certain way
to get the right guy to accept us. Fuck that,
like we are the we are that we bring life
into this world exactly, we are the channel that is chosen.

(22:48):
I don't know what I just said.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
But I meant it.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
And it's like, also, I'm it's also nice to be
around like energy that is just so happy.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I think for a long time my.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Energy was depleted because of other energy and it's nice
to be around a guy who has his own life,
who has his own job, his own family, his own
friends and hobby. And I just come in as an
addition to that, you know what I mean, And I

(23:21):
don't know. And it's just like somebody who's just happy
and full of life, and that's attractive to me. I
don't want to no longer date men that have like
a negative heavy energy, and usually you can tell off
of like the first date and who who hasn't like
accepted their childhood trauma and addressed it and don't believe
in therapy, like I have a checklist now. And I

(23:43):
also another thing that I have become that I'm very
proud of myself is I say upfront what I need.
So in my I guess you could say, like now
I'm like kind of talking to some okay, but I
made sure that second third day, I say, okay, this
is what I require communication.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
I want you to be nice, and.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
That's THEMAT say that it's sad that I even have
to say. I just want somebody who's kind to me.
I say, I want reciprocation. I do like to be
spoiled because no longer am I gonna pretend to be
like the nonchalant like, no, I want flowers.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I like to be wanted to dine.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
And I'm gonna say that up front because before I
try to be like the cool girlfriend. Oh I don't
need much. I'm easy and I am easy, but like
I want to be treated special.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
So I just said it.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
I said it the way I said it was just
I was respectful, I was nice. So this is what
I like. This is what I need if this is
going to move forward. And the guy who's supposed to
be for you, bet I got you.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know what I really value to in this chapter.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
I value somebody who's very much still in touch with
their inner child sometimes, like I know we talk about
it like a whining and dining in the Gifts, which
is so amazing, Like I do love that, But I
also love somebody where, you know, we can just take
a walk and climb trees and do cart wheels in
the middle of the street and do concert and like
just have fun and they don't take themselves or life

(25:03):
like too serious.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, that is such a downer for me.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I am such a child and a woman's body, and
I need somebody who's going to match that, Like you
want to.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Land that and watch cartoons, let's do it. But yeah,
like let's.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Do that in order food.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
We don't always have to go out to the club
or the bar. One of my favorite dates was rollerblading.
Like we we went out for Korean barbecue and then
after like it was just like such a good date
that he was like, gonna go roller skating, and mind you,
we were both super sober in the month of February
because he was doing like drive February, so I was like,
I'll do it with you. So first dake, no no drinks,

(25:37):
roller skating like and then after that we went to a.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Bar and ordered mocktails.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Oh I love it, you know, super sober and had
spent like six hours together.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
It was like the best time ever.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
So yeah, I don't know, it's just like and then
we David Busters and now he wants to take me
to go shooting and like gun shooting or whatever. And
it's just like little things like that, like not the
typical like let's just Netflix and chill and like.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I love a life for that, Like it has so
many fun date ideas, even like I'm to the is
where it's like, hey, you want to just go to
the gym together and get a good workout in like
I find I find that to be so intimate, like
you know, just bettering yourselves together separately, because it's like,
you know, I'm going to demouance thing you do yours
and I'll see you afterwards and we'll get something to eat.
But I just I find so many new fund ways

(26:17):
to build intimacy in this chapter in life, and I
just I love it.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I really do love dating.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
I am looking forward to what I'm in my relationship
and I'm wiped up and whatever, but dating I will
never take for granted, Like I have so much fun
doing this.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah, And I also no longer feel like I need
to catch up with other people, like I've always talked
about this on the podcast, like everybody I went to
college with is already married and have three kids, and
I always felt so behind.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
But I don't really care anymore.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
I am literally living my dream and accomplishing so much
with my career that I wouldn't be able to do
if I had three kids and sitting at home and
making you know, lunchables, like what.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Not not lunchables? Like I'm not doing that and don't
and don't.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
So I'm living a dream.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
I get to do these red carpets, and I get
to do host this, and I have I got three
new shows in the past year, and it's just like,
oh my gosh, I'm really doing the damn thing something
that you know, past relationships have scorned me for from
putting a career first. It's like, now look what I
get to do. I'm seeing the fruits of my labor.

(27:21):
Now I'm ready to okay, now I can find a partner.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
And I feel so blessed to be growing in this
chapter in twenty twenty five, where it's kind of acceptable
to choose your career, it's acceptable to choose yourself. You
don't have the pressure that they had back in the
day where it's like, where's your man?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah, you did all that, but where's your man?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Not to say that those questions don't come up, but
a lot of people are choosing themselves, their career, their happiness,
their mental peace over just having a partner and a family.
Just to say that you have that, because I feel
like that pressure leads people, women in particular into settling
or choosing something that's just not for them. Just to
say that they have it, and that takes away from

(27:59):
their life, that takes away from their overall health, that
takes away from their mental peace. And I think we're
in a decade or a chapter in life in twenty
twenty five where we are able to have it all
and we could do it unapologetically and nobody's like m
and Greanted, we do live in la I think if
we were in like, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Utah exactly, we wouldn't be saying this.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
So I'm just I'm grateful for setting and time and
Patty should be in that.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, So what are your goals for this year?

Speaker 4 (28:24):
We are officially in April, oh, for the show, for
the show for yourself?

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Like, what are your goals for your career? Everything?

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Like everything, girl, I feel And don't ask my journal
because I just say this every year, but I feel
like so much. And I know twenty twenty five has
been a clusterfuck of a year for a lot of
people so far, and it really has been crazy with
the political climate and the natural disasters and everything. But
for me, I have attracted such healthy relationships, whether it's friendships,

(28:54):
whether it's romantic, whether it's I guess the professional I
have so many any healthy relationships, and I have so
many things under under I don't know, I don't know. Yes,
I have so many things in the works right now
that when this does come to actualization, I will have

(29:16):
generational wealth for my family.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
And I just can't believe that it's happening for me.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
And the thing is with your situation that you're going
through right now or not situation. But like this opportunity,
without saying too much, is like even though door has
closed of what you wanted before.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
So many doors have closed it.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Led to this, which is beyond anything that you could
have even expected, because it's like a different path than
what you thought. And that's just like it is a
testament to how like we think our journey look, we
really look linear, right Like we think this is going
to be our path, this is what we want. I
want to do this, this is my dream, and it's
like whole time, God has something so much better, even

(29:55):
though it might be off that path and completely opposite.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Of what you thought your dream was.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Right, and so this new opportunity, it's kind of like
it might seem left field, but it's like what the like.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
It's a couple of new opportunities in the works and
whatever actualizes is definitely going to be a change to
my entire life and my entire being. And you were
so right about that. It's nothing that I envisioned. It's
nothing that I've written down. It is the literal saying,
if you want to hear God laugh, tell him your plans.
And he laughed. He laughed at me, but he said

(30:28):
it was the meme where he had the bigger teddy
bear behind his back and he's like, no, like, just
trust me. I'm going to take this from you, but
trust me. Like, and it's like, whoa god, are you
crazy up there?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Guy?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
You're tripping. But I feel like I deserve it.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
I feel so excited for it, and I just can't.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Wait for textual love it. Tell about your podcast too.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Oh and then also Sexonicity of Angels is what I've created.
It is a sex city rewatch podcast because it comes
the easiest to me rewatching Sexicity over and over again
critics as these women. So I got four single women
in their thirties dating in the City of Angels. We
break down episode by episode kind of see how some
of the concepts age was so cringe was not so

(31:09):
cringe with social media saying we had John Sally on
as our guest crazy because we we we The negative
feedback I got was that we were man bashing and
we're tearing men.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Down, but shut the fuck up.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
So we got a man's perspective, the man's perspective John Sally,
and that episode was really really good. So many other
big names are coming on the show. I've been in
touch with a lot of publicists, so I'm just very
grateful for my connections. We had our first event and
that turned out.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
To be, oh my gosh, we need to we were
That was a really good event.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
It was like a trivia night that you did.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Right, a trivia night. We gave everybody roses and balloons.
We gave gift cards and candles to the winners. We
did three rounds of trivia. We fed everybody, We gave
everybody drinks for sale. But it just it was strangers
showed up, like people I didn't know, who didn't know,
anybody who never heard of the show.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
So it's just been it's been very, very successful.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I'm very I'm very grateful for the woman that I've
grown into and the work that I've been putting in
because in the relationships that I've fostered because a lot
of them have made this dream come true for me,
and I'm just very grateful.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
I'm so proud of you. Like you're building that was
your goal for the past year. It was just to
build your own brand, and of course petty issues your
brand as well, but like you really wanted something that
you created.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, and you created.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
This beautiful thing that is amazing, and just the layout
and the roll out of it was it was amazing too.
So and then also to do this you know event,
It's just it was and the plan that a lot
goes into.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Shit like that.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
So I'm proud of you and I can't wait to
see what happens with it and where it goes.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Tell me all about your new shoes, your new segments.
You have been interviewing everybody under the sun. You've been
going viral every other second. I'm so proud of you,
Oh girl. It has been a crazy year.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
I will say, I don't even know where to start,
but the list has taken legs of its own and
just gone into something that I haven't even I couldn't
even imagine. I always knew that I am good at interviewing,
but like, damn, I'm fucking good at it and I
like it, and I'm very humble about what I do,
like I never I'm like, oh, I'm the best at
being a radio DJ. Like I know there's people, but

(33:18):
I am very good at talking to people and listening
to what they say and bringing the best out of
them when they're talking to me so that other people
can hear their stories right, And I just love it,
especially with up and coming artists, And so that's what
the hit list is. And so not only do I
get up and coming artists, but I get big artists
as well. So I've had so many people come through
of Gwen Stefani, Camee Brown, i had Dua Lipa, I've

(33:41):
had I've had so many people big time Rush and
that got three million views on TikTok. I've had Tate
McCrae and that got a million views, Like she's huge, Yeah,
she's I've gotten some really big names and I don't know,
I guess I asked the right questions and they just
go crazy on social media. So my social media following
has definitely in the past year, and.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
A number of these people said that You're like the
best interview that they've had. Yeah, you're their favorite interviewer. Yeah,
I've gotten that so many on so many.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Occasions, and sometimes I'm like, really, like.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
You get interviewed all the time.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, I think it's just and honestly, everyone a lot
of people are like, what do you do? What's your formula?
And I literally just like pretend that they're my friend.
How would I talk to you? How would I talk
to Kayla? You know, like, I'm not gonna and an
interview doesn't have to be an interview. Why can't it
just be a conversation and you also can't get starstruck
and just you know, like it's just tell me about

(34:32):
your life, like you know, and really listening to what
they say and then responding to that anyway. So, yeah,
it's been doing really well. On social media. It's just
been like literally going crazy. If you go on my TikTok,
it's like millions of views and I'm just like and
then of course you get the bad, mean comments, but
I've learned to ignore those. But yeah, so the hit
list has been going well. Another reason why we initially

(34:54):
didn't come back last year was because I started another
podcast for Kiss FM. Yeah, it was a political podcast
way out of my like comfort zone and realm. But
my boss really wanted me to do this because she
really wanted a millennial or a younger person to basically
inform our listeners about what was going on with the voting.

(35:15):
So I interviewed literally every person that was running for
congress in La. I congressman, I interdew district attorney, senators.
So many people came to and mind you, I don't
do news, and I talk about music and like drama.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
And business guys.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yes, So I was at the imposture syndrome was crazy, Kayla,
Like I'm like, what am I doing? Like I'm talking
to her this person about propositions? What the fuck is
and even what is a proposition?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
You know?

Speaker 4 (35:43):
And I had to do so much studying and it
was like at the end, I was it was really rewarding.
At first, I was angry and not angry I had
to do it, but like I was like, why me,
Like this isn't even my thing and I'm not even
passionate about this, so is it going to translate? But
at the end of the day, it was so rewarding
because cause I got to learn so much more about California.
I got to learn about the people of California, and

(36:06):
I learned that, you know, we have a say so
and how things are ran around here and us our
vote actually can matter and make it different.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
If you actually just read what.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
These propositions are, like, you'll you'll realize like, wait, I
can actually vote for this and it actually makes us
a difference, like what and so. And then relaying that
in elementary terms for people who are also our age
and younger.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
That was my job.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
It's like to take these big words that they talk
about on CNN.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
And intentionally they make it complicated.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
On purpose, yes they do, but they did these big
words and they're these they look intimidating, and so basically
I just take that information, I learn it, and I've
spin it in a way that people actually can like
digest and be like oh yeah, okay, I'll vote for that,
you know. And it was very rewarding. So we had
a podcast and that was like the entire election season.
So that took up my all of my mental you know,

(36:59):
and but it was very very rewarding and definitely pushed
me out of my comfort zone. So another thing to
add to my resume. So yeah, that was like all
of like, you know, last year, the end of last year,
and yeah, so I did that, and then I also
picked up I think I picked up Casey one on one,
which is a night show in Connecticut. So and then
I also picked up a syndicated show, Okayla. So the

(37:21):
syndicated show is in Florida, in a city in Pennsylvania,
and a city in North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
So total every day I do four shows.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
You're all over chow.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah, and it's it's a lot, but I've learned and
I but I've prayed. I was like, God, how can
I manage this in a way where my voice doesn't
give out on me? And I've been able to manage
it very well and still be able to have a life.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
So yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Socially dating, we went to level eight the other day.
You were like you were killing it, Like I think
you're doing la right.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah, And I'm actually and I'm happy.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
I think this is the best place that I've been
in a long time. Just happy with all my friendships,
happy with my coworkers and my job, and happy with
myself and then also with the people or person now
that I'm dating.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
So yeah, everything is good.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Everything is God it good?

Speaker 2 (38:17):
This season is going to be good. Yes, expectations for
this season.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
You know, I was going to say I want more interviews,
but I do feel like people love us. They do,
so I just want to be on the microphone for
all the craziness that is going to be twenty twenty five,
because it's already starting to off to a crazy start,
and there's so many things that you want to talk about,
and I love talking about them with you, yeah, on

(38:42):
the microphone, And I know that that's like corny, because
that's exactly what we do.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
So we look for that. That's what I'm looking for.
I can't wait for it.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
And if it makes sense, if an interview makes sense,
and of course we'll do it, don't. We did have
that one with Tory Hart and that was crazy. But yeah,
I think what makes Petty Issh is just me and you.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
You know. That's why we have thousands of listeners, you know,
And so my expectations is just to have fun.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yeah, And I don't know, just I love doing the
podcast because it's what I can't do on the radio.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I can be more of myself.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
I can vent and complain and if you do you know,
and it's our podcast, so if you don't want to
hear me complain, then.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Turn somewhere else, you know.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
But it's also like, I also love the fact that
we are so honest about everything and people have said
that and people can relate even though we say some
things that a lot of people probably wouldn't admit out loud,
Like that's what makes us so relatable, So I really do.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
I like touching people and helping people and giving people
a safe space to be okay with the things that
they go through.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
And I love the fact that you're not letting the
negative comments get to you, because I feel like our
petty ish does go up sometimes with some of the things,
and I am going to work on not letting them
get here talking about how much I paid for my
locks and much money.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
On they destroyed us on TikTok last year.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
But and came for us. But we're ready for it
this ready.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Well, thank you guys for listening episodes every Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
We love you. Thanks for waiting for us and being patient.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
We will be consistent, but you know us, sometimes we
just aren't.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
They'll be judging us.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
So yeah, bye, so you'll get us when you get us,
and how about.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
That right now? Make sure you follow us at.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
You don't even forgot our our handle.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Again.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
But how are you going? When I asked you? What
I give out?

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:30):
I got a new phone ship all right, well we'll
figure it out.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Follow us.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
What is it the pettish podcast?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Pettish Podcasts? Follow me at the Kayla Austin.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I'm Kayla Thomas forty.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
We'll see you next time. Bye bye
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