Top 5 INXS songs. 80s 1 hit wonders. Flush update.

It's about time we did our Top 5 favorite INXS songs! We have an update on the no flush situation. Is Beyonce overrated? This week is the anniversary of Elvis Presley's death in 1977. We riff on a bunch of one hit wonders and The Bear is our favorite new show...cousin. Get your Rod Ryan Show Cares tshirt at www.thebuzz.com and when in New Orleans be sure to see the www.Piratesofthequarter

Episode Transcript

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Let's go out. Oh who's starting, I'll start, Okay. I was
just I was throwing that uncomfortable silenceout there to see who would blinked first,
and it was you. So Iwin. Episode ninety three. Here
we go play pants podcast. Man, we've got like way too much shit
to cover tonight. I think Ithink you brought a lot to the table.
I brought some things to the table. We'll probably blow through most of

(00:28):
it, forget half of it,and end up doing a top five of
our top favorite top five favorite inExcess songs of all time. And you
sent this to me today and you'relike, dude in excess are you a
fan? I'm like, well,I blew it last episode where I picked
the wrong thing. So I'm like, I'm going in excess because I know
where the fan you are. SoI'm like, yes, top five favorite
in Excess songs and uh, dude, I watch some videos today. I

(00:51):
did a little homework today, likewhere are you with that band? Though?
I mean, okay, you knowI love them. I absolutely love
them. I think they're amazing.And I said it because I think there
was some other I'll talk about it. We've got some other good like top
fives coming up like down, down, down the road, right, where
are you Within Excess? You knowwhat? I came to the party very
late because I didn't get into thatwell. I didn't know of them till

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it was already. They were alreadybig. They were in their peak in
the late eighties, early nineties,that was their peak season, and I
was just like, what is thisnew wave shit. I didn't get into
it. I didn't like it.I didn't think any of it was good.
I hated all of it. Iwas into the hair metal man.
I was all guns and roses,you know, all that ship white Snake.

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So you know, like we talkedmany times about you had your your
dividing lines, and I wasn't.At that point in my life. I
was not straying outside of those lines. I was very focused on my lane.
I didn't move right or left.I was all about that metal and
Uh. I came to in Excessmuch much later, and I've grown to
appreciate that band more and more everyyear. I really do. He has

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to go down as one of thegreat front men. And you know,
they were kind of like a rockier, cooler Dare I say, Duran,
Duran? You know, I mean, because a lot of it dealt with
image with that band, and theywere a big MTV band. But they
had the songs though, you know, and Duran Durant had great songs too.

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I mean, they just weren't prettyboys, they had great songs.
So the comparison I think is fairbecause he because I don't discount and you
know, Duran Duran's going into therock and roll Hall of Fame. But
in excess, man, they havethe songs, They've got the catalog going
all the way back to the earlyeighties. And then kind of like every
other band out there, you know, Nirvana didn't do in excess any favors

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like you know, like most bands, and uh, and they were already
on the decline and then Nirvana camein and then just kind of wiped them
out, you know. So we'llget into that a little bit. We
don't have to spend a whole lotof time. I mean, now we've
been doing this podcast for a coupleof years, so I'm sure we you

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know, at some point a yearago we covered that this is the anniversary
of Elvis's death, so it's fortysix years now. I imagine there'll be
a big to do, like onthe fiftieth I imagine, you know,
I can see like a television specialand you know, doing different things.
Forty six years nineteen seventy seven,Elvis Presley dies and I'm six years old

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and I'm outside playing in the streetwith a tennis racket going, just just
lobbing the tennis ball back and forthwith my dad, and my mom comes
out because we weren't in school yet. And my mom comes out and she's
in hysterics that Elvis had passed away. And that for me is like my

(03:51):
first memorable celebrity death. I rememberthe exact day that had happened, on
that hot August day in in northTonawanda, New York. My mom was
a huge, as I know yourparents were too, a huge Elvis fan.
My dad could give a shit,but my mom worshiped him. Yeah.

(04:12):
Well, think about the time periodin your mom, what her age
was when he came out, youknow what I mean, Like that was
her guy, you know, andand and Elvis was huge. I don't
remember because I was I was Iwas much younger than you, Rod uh
So I don't remember when that happened, but I just remember my mom talking
about it at different times over theyears, saying it was just it was
just horrible, you know. Andshe was actually supposed to go see him

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because that's you know, that waslater years and he was doing the big
stints out in Vegas. Then hewould take off and do some tours and
she was supposed to go see himat Melody Fair in the north Tonawandah.
But then he died. Yeah,she's never forgave him for that, she
never got to see him. Shestill pitched. She's like, Elvis died
before I got a chance to seehim. And you know, you mentioned

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about the fiftieth anniversary, there willbe a huge to do on the fifth.
First, you know, other thanthe fact that's nice round number is
that they locked away his autopsy reportuntil fifty years is up. Well,
the family wanted to hide it.The thing about Elvis, and this is
where he was kind of an asshole. Okay. He was this big guy
like, oh, I you know, I'm against I'm anti drugs, anti

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drugs, blah blah blah, anddrugs to him was cocaine and marijuana.
He didn't think all those fucking pillsthat he was taking was drugs. So
the family wanted to hide everything.He was the biggest pill popper druggie on
the planet, but he didn't considerthat drugs correct. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, And when I found out, is it like his his intestines were

(05:42):
so jacked and filled with his ownit shit because of the drugs. And
his diet was horrible. Bull he'dlived on cheeseburgers and sodas. That's what
he lived on in the pills.His guts were a wreck, like they
were packing all of that stuff too. Like when you can't sleep and stuff,
Man, that fucks up your balls. I mean, even when you're

(06:02):
taking anything to numb yourself. BecauseI know this from a couple of surgeries
now, and I remember specifically myback surgery. Okay, so they're numbing
up your back when I had mysurgery, I'm not leaving the hospital until
I shit, right, yeah,you can't go. You can't. You

(06:25):
have to go poop before they're gonnalet you leave. Now, think about
where they're numbing me up to andthink what it's close to, so you're
in that area. So it's justI'm like, I don't have to go,
man, I just I just nothingis happening. So I don't know
if you want to know the horrorswhat they had to do to me to

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get me to go. I kindof don't know. It's after surgery like
that. It's all about pooping.So he is on one dose, he
can't fall asleep. More pills,he can't fall asleep. A third dosage.
Now he's so fucking numbed up.Then he goes to the bathroom and
they're like, don't fall asleep inthere. Okay, goes to the bathroom,

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falls asleep. So that's it.I mean, you know, well
it's I mean, I'm sure itwas a cardiac arrest, but between that
and a cardiac arrest and whatever,you know, they were worried about him
falling asleep, not the shitter,right, because everyone said it was like
drugs that did it. Well,you know, indirectly, it wasn't an
overdose per se like you're you're usedto. It's like he was dead by

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the time he hit the floor.He was on the hopper, he was
fine, with his ass in theair, his face down, and he
was dead like as soon as hehit the floor, he was already dead,
Like he fell off like if itwas a drug overdose he'd have been
like trying to crawl to the doorand all this sh So I heard another
pretty reliable story. And again alot of this is unknown because the family

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was covering all this stuff up.But obviously the joke was in the punchline
was that Elvis died on the shitter. But man, I had heard from
a pretty reliable source. And Ithink back in the day interviewing like one
of the Memphis Mafia or whatever,and again he might still be covering up.
But Elvis's favorite chair was a barberchair, and he had a barber

(08:15):
chair in his bathroom. And Iwas told that he was in the barber
chair when he when he that's whathe fell off of. It was his
favorite thing to sit in. Itwas his you know, it was a
big I mean, think about howcomfortable a barber chair is. Yeah,
that's just inside. But we don'tknow, you know, I mean,

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I think most reports are going tosay that, yeah, he fell off
the hopper. He felt his girlfriendat the time, Ginger. She wrote
in her memoir that she walked in, she found the girlfriend, found the
dude, and she said, yeah, assa pants around his his pajamas around
his ankles. And just eyes,you know, bloodshot dead. But then
again, you know who do youtrust in that whole thing? You know

(08:58):
what I mean? They want toshe wants to sell book, so she's
gonna try and give you some goodstuff. I don't know what to believe
anymore. Man. But since we'retalking about shitting Rod, I want to
update people. Last episode, atthe end of the episode, I talked
about a problem we had at workat the radio station where I work in
New Orleans, And yeah, whydon't you get the Sports Center edition of
where what happened? And then I'mso happy you're bringing this up, and

(09:20):
people on the internets are very happyyou're bringing this up right now, So
please, why don't you just ayou know, quick little backstory. So
somebody was taking a dump at workin the evening and then in the morning
when the next people would come in, like me or some other people,
engineers, general managers, jocks,whatever, they'd walk into the hopper and
there'd be a freaking a gift inthe basket. As you would say,

(09:43):
right, someone didn't flush. Andso I don't know how I got designated
guy to take care of this problem, but I was designated guy to take
care of this problem. You're theprogram director, dude, Okay, direct
some programs. So yeah, Iwant programs, yeah, on the radio,
but not not somebody's asshole. SoI'm like, so I did what
any good manager would do at thetime. I blew it off twice.

(10:05):
I just didn't give a shit.I'm like, I'm not doing that.
Come on, man, it's thisgrown man shit figured out, classic classic
middle management. It's brilliant, right, I'm a fucking with that. So
anyway, it came back to hauntme. My GM came in last week
and he's like, what the youknow, he's walked into a turd.
He walked into a bomber and hecomes out and he's mad, he's yelling

(10:26):
and he's laughing, and I'm like, oh, I I gotta address this
damn thing. So and I saidat the end of last episode, I
said, I need to address it, and I will address it this week.
And I did Monday morning. Thefirst thing I did Monday morning.
Forget about music, forget about allthe things I gotta do for radio.
Sure, hey, just send onan email about Hey, guys, let's
flush the toilet. But I didn'twant to send out just say, hey,

(10:48):
guys, let's flush the toilet.Email. I wanted to be sensitive,
but I wanted to be amusing,but I wanted to be careful,
you know, because this is ait's gonna be an HR thing. You
never know. In this day andage, everyone sens it it. So
here's what I sent. Let meknow how I did run because you've seen
these types of emails before. Inthe subject line of this email, I
said, I just simply put waterconservation subject to the email. So that

(11:13):
pops up and you're like, oh, water conservation, this could be interesting.
Where's he going with this here?And I said, while we should
always look for ways to help conserveenergy and water, there are times when
that isn't feasible. For instance,a toilet should be flushed every time all
the time. Let's keep that men'sroom clean and fresh. End of email.

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I said it without going into directness. You know what I mean.
Just keep it clean and fresh.Boys, Let's keep it clean and fresh.
I would have liked the word unfeasisible. I wasn't making jokes.
This is something that could end upgoing to HR. I was not going
to throw jokes, you know.I got to it well, so to
follow up on that. So Iset it out just to the dude.

(12:00):
You know, I kept it veryin the wheelhouse, right, so you
didn't even put like at the end, they're like, so inclosing, flush
your fucking turds, that's not inthere. Damn no, no, no.
I had to be a middle managementmanagement man. So I send it
and I'm like, Okay, Ithink we got this taken care of.

(12:20):
Well no, no, no,no one responds to that email because okay,
which idiot, Because you know,dummies at radio stations, everybody's a
fucking comedian. Oh I'm gonna replyall with my little zinger, and then
I can only imagine a whole afternoonof zingers flying around. None, not
one. Everyone was too chicken todo it. But what happened was everyone

(12:41):
kind of went offline and started textingme, and you know, it was
great. Everyone knew who it was. Everybody said the same dude. They're
like, oh, it's this guy. Did the turd bandit reach out to
you? No? I did not. Everyone else on that email reached out
to be Oh it's this dude.They all hit me. They all everyone

(13:01):
knew who it was. I'm like, I guess maybe I should just went
and talk to the guy, butI couldn't bring myself to have a face
to face with another grown man.So anyway, that that is where we
ended things. And for this wholeweek now I've been the first guy in
the place. I've checked. Nownow it's a thing. Now it's a
thing I check every morning. We'vebeen fresh and clean. So alternate gate

(13:22):
settled. Well. Now see it'sonly been three four days, so we'll
see how this goes well. Iwill update us if we have a have
an errant morning. Well done,great, well done? Can I share
an email from Gravy Gang or Moondo, who's been on board with us too.
He's a big yeah, he's abig ladle ladle guy listening to Alex's

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podcast Past the Gravy, but man, he jumped right over with us when
we started doing ours and he said, brother rod uh And he's he always
mentions you. You remember Moondo.He's the guy that's got the split shirt
at my tournament and half of itis play pants, half of it is
past the Gravy. I mean,he's just he's the best. He's a
guy with the signs at the wrestlingtoo. Right, Does he say yes,

(14:09):
yeah, he got turned away.He wasn't allowed to bring him in.
There was just a wrestling match,and he said he got no more
signs. Oh that's crap. Wouldwe have more signs because he's gotten on
not only pay per view, butlike I don't know, like the Monday
night raws and stuff like that,holding up Playpants pod. We should have
more listeners that kind of marketing.All right, So Mundo says, y'all

(14:31):
should do a segment on your playPants podcast where you all create a band
with the most overrated members, likemost overrated singer and guitarist and drummer,
etc. Or maybe just your overratedbands. I'm curious what you guys would
choose. Continued success loyal listener Mundo, I like that, though, you

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know, I mean, is there, off the top of your head,
is there an overrated band or isit just a band that you don't like?
I don't. I never understood theterm overrated. I can't. I
never looked up the definition of whatthat's supposed to mean. Like it feels
like it's just band you don't like, Like, you know, just to

(15:13):
pick out of the sky a creed. Okay, you can take Creek because
ever loves to hate on Creed Right. Are they overrated? I don't know
what that means because they all aretalented at their instruments. Mark Tremoni is
great, I mean, lover hatesScott Stamp. Dude can fucking sing.
Right, They wrote some hits,They've sold fifty million albums worldwide. Are

(15:35):
they overrated? They got success?I don't know. I don't know how
much heat you want on this pod? I'm bring it. How much heat
do you want on this pod?Let's do it, let's do it?
Bring it. Beyonce? Wow,overrated, overrated, super talented, great,
awesome. She's a phony. She'snot even like a real person.

(15:58):
I don't even think she's not real. It does feel that way, doesn't
it. She's like a robot.There's just I mean, I get it.
You want to be you want thisthing. And right now she's getting
her ass kicked by Taylor Swift.But you know, Beyonce, she's from
here. So again, I don'tknow how much heat you want on this
pod? You want the beehive comingat you or coming at me us.

(16:23):
I don't know if she's just youknow, just something about her that just
seems phony to me. Yeah,over something about her seems a little phony.
You know. Is she talented?Does she dance her ass off?
Yes? Sings well, you know, she sings really good. She sings
really good. Does she write herown stuff? No? Is every song

(16:47):
got twenty five fucking songwriters on it? Yeah? You know, jay Z's
cool. I don't know. Butagain, who's overrated? You know?
It's it's hard because if you justthink Miley Cyrus is some pop tart and
you see her out bouncing around toall these awards shows and she's singing,

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it's like, oh, why whyis this girl? Like? Why is
she the go to girl? Youknow why? Because she's fucking amazing.
She's great, you know, she'samazing. I don't think she's she's overrated.
I don't know. I don't knowwho's overrated? Is Justin Bieber overrated?
Can he sing? Can he sing? I don't know. Maybe Spears

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is overrated? Britney Spears, Ohyeah, she can't say Britney Spears overrated?
Worse than bors Queen. I thinkBritney Spears is just sad and laughable
right now? Oh now, ohno, that that that chick needs to
be back in fucking conservative ship man. I mean that she's a mess,
she's a hot mess. She she'sshe's yeah, this is I don't think

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it's gonna end well for her.It doesn't look good. I don't wish
her. I think somebody just sentme something today that she might be getting
separated from that new husband. Yeah, no, shit, maybe breaking news
here on the Playpants podcast. Wow, we are nothing like a couple of
old, white bald dudes talking aboutBeyonce. Though, by the way,
that doesn't make much sense. Okay, Is there a musician that's overrated?

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Is there a guy out there that'sthought of? And it's like, you
know what, like Bob Dylan doesn'tspeak to me, you know, for
me, he's not the voice ofmy generation. And I don't understand because
he can't sing his way out ofa paper bag. But it's personal preference
again, you know. But ishe rated a little too high? Oh?

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I would say, you know what, a little too high because he
you know, shit's in a brownpaper bag and he's on the cover of
Rolling Stone. Every new album heputs out, they're like, oh my
god, Dylan's got a new album. And I'm like, right, it's
not good, but it's getting Butit's personal preference, you know, Right,
does anybody think Lars al Rick isa really good drummer? I don't
know, he's not. You know, if if he winds up on a

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great metal drummer list, he's overrated. If he's in any kind of a
list, he's overrated. Like thatwould be a particular that would be a
rating. If he wound up ona list. If you show me a
list of Lars all Rich and he'sin the top twenty five metal drummer list,
it's that's an overrating. Well,okay, you know, I know
you love to do this one allthe time because we've we've brought this one

(19:18):
up many episodes. You know,Anthony ketis overrated singer. You know he
can't. He's not on any bestsinger list, so we know that.
I don't think he think he's rated. He's not overrated. Nobody has rated
him. I would love I wonderif there's like you know, he has
to know, right, I mean, you know, you just know at

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this point he must have had conversation. He's like, I'm sorry, guys,
I just can't say. I mean, he tries, he works the
best singer in the band called theRed Hot Chili Peppers, John F.
Shaunte It can sing better than him. Oh buy a mile? Yeah,
you know they used always say thatabout Ringo. Ringo wasn't even the best
drummer in the Beatles, you know, which is so funny. Anthony is

(20:03):
not the best singer in that band. That that is funny. But is
he responsible for the sound and thestyle and the presentation and all of that.
Of course he is correct, ofcourse he is. Yeah, you're
gonna get us in trouble on thislist. I just I don't I just
don't understand what overrated means. Okay, it's just hard, like you know,

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I mean, if you put mein a band and taught me a
few chords, and I and inthe band and have gone to number one
and had a couple of hits.Yeah, that's not fair. That's not
good. I'm sure there's plenty ofmusicians out there that have written the coat
tails of a great singer, andmaybe they're underrated or overrated. You know,
that's different, right, It's justnot that's just a lack of talent

(20:48):
and get lucky. If we wantto get maybe we should do this,
maybe this is these are the kindof list that we should be doing.
And you know, the number one, you know, overrated band of all
time, the Beatles. I mean, really, what did they ever really
do? I mean, if youreally break apart those three chords, what
did they create? Nothing? Reallynothing? You really couldn't tear apart anybody

(21:12):
though. I mean, and there'speople that are way smarter than us,
which is everybody. I imagine youcould sit there and dissect every single band
out there and tell me why they'reoverrated. You know, you're the biggest
band in the world for a reason. You're pretty good. Well, you
can't be fooling. You can't foolall the people all the time. You

(21:33):
just can't. And Beyonce's playing stadiums, so obviously she's wicked talented, correct,
I just you know, there's justsomething that just all right. When
she announced her privacy, She's like, look at my baby. Yeah,
look OK. But is that aproduct of that? Is that her?
Is that it is a product ofthe times we're in right now. With
social media, everyone's gonna make abig fucking deal out of everything they do.

(21:56):
You know, the whole gender Revealedparties where they've blown out of proportion.
It's like, what are you doing? Who gives a shit? Man,
Well you had that for dinner.Congratulations, Wow you can make macaroni
and cheese. You dip shit,you know what I mean? Like,
I think that's part of the productof the environment that we're in too.
I don't know. I still Isaw it Beyonce years ago, and holy

(22:19):
shit, dude, Wow, whata show. What a show? I
mean, hands down unbelievable from beginningto end. She's but but you know,
like seeing so many artists we've seenover the years, right, you've
probably been in the same situation wherelike you might go see a band that
you like a lot, but itfeels mechanical because they're just doing their set.

(22:41):
It doesn't they they're not selling itas something that's really badass where you're
really taking with they're not really blowingyour minds. Right, everyone wants everyone
everyone's gonna set because you're gonna cocordatewith the lights and all the bullshit that
goes with a show. Right,every band does that. But you wanted
to feel organic and real. Youknow. I even got to the point
where I was watching Van Haler,you know, not to shoot on kiss,
but god damn if I didn't knowwhen the blood was coming or the

(23:03):
fire was coming out of the guitar. I mean, you just but it's
a show. But it was greatevery time. And for someone who'd never
seen the band, You're like,what, that's awesome. So it just
doesn't feel organic, you know.I think maybe that's part of the problem
with Beyonce. It all feels verystage, very particular, just the just
the formula. All right, Igot you, I got you what you

(23:26):
said you brought something in because I'mgonna tell everybody what top five you turned
down today. God damn it.I'm always in trouble. Uh No,
it's funny. I was just andthis just happened a little while ago.
I was talking to my wife downstairsand we were talking. That wasn't oh
she's She's like, she's like,yeah, you know. My my nephew
went to kindergarten today and he waswearing a band T shirt. I think

(23:53):
it was the red He was wearingthe Red at Chili Peppers, small little
Red at Chili Peppers T shirt toschool kindergarten. I'm like rock singer in
the waking awesome right, and thenI'm like, I'm like, well that's
badass, and I'm like, well, my son today went to school this
first year in high school, he'swearing a very I think it was a
food Fighters shirt you got him?Did you get him a food Fighters shirt?

(24:15):
You got him something food Fighters did? I can't remember what it is.
Getting a lot obviously. Anyway,he's wearing a Food Fighters T shirt
to school. He wore a ChiliPeppers the other day. He's got a
Beastie Boys shirt. And I'm sittingthere, I go, fuck all that.
Man. I said, I waswearing fucking granimals when I went to
school. Dude, there were nocool rock shirts when I was going to
elementary or middle school. But okay, you're right, like the little guy,

(24:40):
the nephew, I can understand.Yeah, like our parents weren't cool.
Our parents weren't cool. Our parentsweren't putting us in you know,
the music that they liked in thoseT shirts, right, they weren't is
readily available either. So I guessthat's Fred Henry your son starting high school.
Boom. Of course you know youwere wearing ship like that in high
school. But the little guy,no, our parents our parents didn't.

(25:03):
Our parents didn't care about being cool. No, it didn't care about us
looking cool. They didn't care.I mean fuck, I had an older
sister. I wore hand me downsfrom my sister. You think my mom
gave a shit about one person saying, like a winner coat. There's a
picture of me and my sister wereshoveling and the coat that I'm wearing was
my sisters. My mom did notgive a shit if one person said to

(25:27):
me, ha ha, that wasyour sister's coat you're wearing yep, and
punched me in the face. Mymom would not care, Like I don't
care. It's a good coat,you're wearing it. It works, You're
not gonna die, It doesn't matter. Yeah, no it. I always
felt bad because I was the olderbrother and my poor my poor brother,
younger brother. I'd wear ship andthen there it'd be on him, man,

(25:48):
and it's just what he had todeal with, you know. That's
the way it was. A poorguy would be and I would get like
older cousins shit. So it wasalways you were always pushing clothes around the
family, man, because it waslike anyone had a kid boom. Okay,
well we'll take Jason stuff because Iwas like the oldest kind of kid
in the immediate family. So thatwould go over to here, to cousins
and this, and I would getstuff from older cousins to me. And

(26:10):
clothes got a lot of use backin the day. You know, you
didn't just wear a shirt for acouple of months and then gone. I
then got some mileage on it.Everybody's wearing brand new clothes first day of
school. It's awesome. Everyone's youknow, stepping on your sneakers because they're
brand new. You're like, fuck, dude, get off by sneakers.
Come on, you know, becausefor the longest, you know, white
sneakers were such a big thing.You know, some guy would come up

(26:34):
and step on him, be like, fuck, dude, my mom's gonna
kill me. I just got these. First day of high school. High
school for me was ten eleven andtwelve yep, So first day of high
school, Jason ginty seven eighty eightyfive. I go into school on that

(26:56):
first day. A lot of pressure, man, because the seniors are big
deal. You know. I canonly even imagine like what it's like for
Henry's in ninth grade, right correct, ninth the difference between the ninth grade
or and a senior. I wasnervous about seniors and I was in tenth
grade. But I wore a ninetyseven Rock t shirt nice. I remember

(27:18):
specifically, I wore a ninety sevenrock t shirt my first day in high
school. It's a black shirt,it's got the cool ninety seven rock logo
on it. That was the It'sI think our whole lives. It's just
been a classic rock station. Theykind of maybe played some active stuff,
some current stuff, maybe way backin the day. But that was me

(27:41):
making my statement, you're dealing witha rocker here, You're dealing with the
rocker. Look out, I'll playthe drums on your face. I wanted
everybody to know this is who youhave coming to your school. Now.
I'm fucking the shit. Okay,I am the tits. I fucking listened
to ninety seven rock. I'm arocker. I'm here for it. Who's

(28:03):
with me? Yeah, but here'sthe problem with that. Then when it
got cold or walk around your sister'sfucking jacket. Yeah, underneath, I'm
a badass. I remember stressing outthat first day of school. I remember
stressing out and I thought that wasmy best option. The ninety seven Rock
logo. There was a station here. That logo was ripped off from a

(28:27):
station here. I believe that wasninety seven Rock before. And I don't
know who had the logo first,but I do know that Andy Travis,
the program director of w KRP andCincinnati, had that bumper sticker on his
wall in his office. WHOA,that's kid, the ninety seven rock logo.

(28:49):
Now, whether it was the Houstonone or the Buffalo one, I
think you know, everybody in Buffalowould claim that it was the Buffalo one.
But if you remember his office,he had bumper stickers from radio stations
all across America. You can seethe ninety seven Rock one in his office.
Back of the day, he usedto have those two. Now,
who's got bumper stickers anymore? Becausenobody puts shit in their cars unless it's
that weird chalk outlined family on thewindow. That's all you put on the

(29:12):
back of your window nowadays. Youknow, my kid, my kid beat
up your honor student, that's alwaysa good one. Or Kelvin pissing on
something. That was about all yougot on windows anymore. Man, It's
that's a bit messed up. Yeah, no, it was just weird.
I asked. I asked my son. I said, hey, man,
are like seniors got beards and shit. He goes, oh, yeah,

(29:33):
they're monsters. He goes, arejust monsters. They're huge and every big
kid. Yeah he goes. Hegoes, yeah, I gotta steer away
from him. He goes. Firstday. First day, he goes out
to lunch, and they'd have likea lunch room, but then they got
like this big ass courtyard. Soit's an outdoor courtyard, so you can
go in get your lunch. Youcan either sit at the tables in the
courtyard outside, you can sit inthe lunch room. So he's, yeah,

(29:56):
well, high school is basically justa nicer version of prison. If
you really think about it, youboil it down. And he walks in
and he gets his lunch, andhe comes out and he's like looking around
for a table and he sits down, and some senior comes up and goes,
get your asshole over there on thebench. Really, he's just like,
okay, see it, and boomhe goes. Yeah, the freshman

(30:17):
all sit on like the you know, they got like trees and landscaping and
shit. And like the little brickshelves or you know, I think the
perimeter, so you like little benches. He's like, oh, the freshman
are sitting there cutting their fucking meat, sit with their plates on their labor.
They don't get the tables. Theysee the table, they get the
tables. Okay, freshman ain't gettingso that. He was saying that there
was a line. There was acouple, because they got a couple different
lines in the lunch room. Right. One was like some shit, he

(30:41):
didn't want to eat and he reallywanted a cheeseburger. They got a cheeseburger.
They just served cheeseburgers every day.That's what you're eat. You can
be Elvius and get cheeseburgers every day, but they usually serve something different every
day. And another line, hesaid, the second day or third day
of school, he's like standing inthe one line, he's like, fun,
I really want a cheeseburger. Well, the line the cheeseburgers was almost
all seniors, right, and hegoes he's like fuck this, and he

(31:04):
goes over and he stands in linewith the seniors, right, and he's
standing there with all his buddies whoare freshmen in line for lunch and they're
all looking at him, going,what are you doing? Man? Oh
my god. He's like what,I'm just standing in line. And he's
like, I like, broke someweird code and rule and nobody said shit
to me. He goes, nobodygave a shit. I said, yeah,
but if you said's funny, sitdown at the table, bro,

(31:25):
You're done, that's funny. Yeah. I'm like, wow, I'm so.
I'm reliving all these nightmares of myown high school experience through my kid.
It's terrible. I don't recommend itfor anyone. It's awful in the
high school halls, in the backsof cars. I don't even know the
words subdivisions, rushions, little drummy, but you know, I get it.

(31:52):
Dude. Let's you want to dothe eighties thing after this? Or
you want to do the go rightin the inn access shit? Oh well,
it's just the other thing that Isent Jake was Kevin Rowland is having
a birthday on Thursday. When thispodcast debuts on August seventeen, Kevin Rowland

(32:15):
is seventy years old. And that'sokay. There won't be a quiz.
He's the lead singer of Dexi's MidnightRunners. Come on, Eileen, Oh,
yes, famous famous song played atall this high school dances. Actually,
so my question is because just incase you just did not have any
interest at all in an excess,I always try to have a backup plan,

(32:37):
and I thought best one hit wonders. Is there any denying that if
you do a top five one hitwonder list, Come on, Eileen,
absolutely has to be in that topfive yes or no? Wow? I
mean yeah, because it's because ourlists are your favorite. Then you could

(32:59):
easily say no. But I'd havea hard time accepting a top five one
hit wonder list without that song onthere. How you could do that?
Yeah, come on, Eileen,you could do don't you forget about me?
You could throw in uh tainted Love. I mean that's three of just
from the eighties right there. That'sthe thing about one hit wonders. Mine

(33:20):
are all lumped into the same threeyears, you know, Turning Japanese by
the Vapors, brilliant song, Yeah, Devo Whippett, Gary Newman Cars,
They're all like they're all just likeold like new wave eighties songs, you
know, But if you look atit is the biggest one hit wonder of
all time, the macarena we stylewe do that probably is the biggest as

(33:49):
far as YouTube hits. Yeah andstuff. That's why we always do our
favorites and not the biggest because wedon't give a shit that Gangham style or
you know who let the dogs out. I'm not putting that on my fuck
and lists back that ass up.God, we are so straight right now,
baby got back? Yeah, yeah, you could do an ice ice
baby bust a move. Funky ColdMedina, Oh my god, we're gonna

(34:13):
be here all night. Holy shit, this is great. You know you
could go a little cooler and dolike Funky Comadina. He had a follow
up hit, he did she hada follow up hit? Uh, Funky
cole Meadina. Oh well, wildThing was the first. Stild Thing was
first, Yeah, okay, Ifeel Funky Cole Medina was the second song.
So he he's a two. He'sa two solid two hit wonder.

(34:34):
What was the biz Markey song We'reJust Friends? Got what I Need?
Yeah? That song she can youtell Me just a friend? You could
bust out the violent fems blister inthe sun. Yeah, that would count.
That would count. I mean,there's gonna be some nerd that like,
oh dude, everybody knows this song. Sure they don't know Gordon Gano
on here or whatever. I'm notfrom Milwaukee, come on, I don't

(34:57):
know. I like it. Ilike it. I think maybe down the
road when we get into a pinch, when we have nothing but guys send
us your stuff though, if youhave an idea for a top five,
if you if you don't enjoy whatwe come up with, you know,
step you're listening to us, man, tell me what you think we should
do for a top five Well,top five favorite in access tunes coming up?

(35:20):
After I tell you about the rodRyan Show care store. It's gonna
be online for about one more week. Okay, what are you waiting for?
All new? That's it this week. I didn't update the copy.
We're passing out backpacks on Saturday,so you get I still go on line
store now right now, like pause, pause, Go do your shit,
buy some cool t shirts or cooziesor stickers, and then come back and

(35:44):
listen to the top five favorite inaccess tunes. Raising some money to purchase
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Children's charity, trying to outdo lastyear, raising over one hundred one thousand
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(36:05):
mean in twenty minutes. I don'tmean tomorrow. I mean now. On
the world famous Rod Ryan Show pageat the buzz dot com. You know,
it's fun when we do the topfives. It's usually fairly simple.
I'll do a little research and bang, bang bang, I'll knock out the
five tunes. No problem. Right, It's it's maybe five ten minutes of

(36:29):
Google and some shit. Right inexcess, I dove in. I started
watching videos, videos that I've neverseen before, and I started kind of
going through their catalog a little bitmore. Now I didn't have all day,
but I spent maybe twelve minutes,which is a lot more than normal.
And damn it, dude, you'reright. I became and like I
said earlier, I've come to inexcess later in life, when my appreciation

(36:52):
I grew up, right, mypalette expanded. It wasn't just eating meat
and potatoes every day with my hairmetal. I've expanded, and I continue
to expand this day. I'm aHarry Styles fan. Now, what can
I say? Would it be fairif you had to describe Michael Hutchins as
a cross between Mick Jagger, IggyPop and Jim Morrison. Perfect? Yeah,

(37:16):
thanks, you welcome. Perfect.I just back in the day again,
going off when I knew when Iwas young and stupid or I think
he was just a pretty boy tome, I was like, who's this
asshole? Who are these guys tryingto be? You? Two? Although
they were kind of same time period, you know, I'm like, it

(37:37):
kind of felt that way back backthen. I kind of thought that.
And the Duran Durand reference you hadearlier, great reference as well. Man,
As I got older, I dugin excess because I realized later in
life the girls liked in excess.So guess who got to become a fan
more of in excess. Yeah,that's how it works, Rod, girls
will do it every time. Yeah, follow the ass, Follow the ass.

(38:00):
That should be in a Hallmark card. Dude, that's good advice.
I like that. I probably won'tgive that to my son, by the
way. Michael Hutchins died November twentysecond, nineteen ninety seven. That night
I was in the then called theLouisiana Superdome and I had gone to the

(38:22):
U two concert and I had heardthat Michael Hutchins died on my way out
listening to our radio station. Mighthave been John Marty talking about it on
the radio, But yeah, Imean there's a huge connection between in Access
and you two. I mean,Bono and him were really really close and
everything, and then you got youknow, Bob Geldoff, and it was

(38:43):
there was a mess there going on. There was a crazy mess going on,
and Michael Hutchins was a mess atthe end of his life. I
had always heard. And we're gonnahave to ask our our PD friend Vince.
I think he could have got inExcess cheap on that first Mojo Music
Festival, and he said that seemsout of place. I think he could

(39:07):
have got them, and that wouldhave been my opportunity to see in Excess.
I never saw him live. Wow, I never saw them live.
And if it wasn't him, thenit was Dave Stewart. I'll ask them.
I'll ask both of them, becauseI just recently texted both of them,
and I'll ask hey, did youguys pass up in excess on the

(39:27):
cheap on one of our festivals.Well, because you really do think that
happened, and I'm so angry thatthey said no to it. Now I
get it, it would have soundedweird, but you know it's a we
look at festivals now. Even backthen, when we were doing festivals in
the nineties, you know, everythinghad to make sense. There was no
like fluff or fringey, Let's justput this guy on because it would be

(39:49):
cool. You know, they didn'tdo that. You know, they didn't
have a rock show and then like, let's just put jay Z up there
for a couple of tunes, peoplewill go crazy. It wasn't like that.
Everything had to make sense. Soin a would have been a little
outside because they were already you know, ninety you know, Nirvana's out already
eight years. But I think wecould have got him on the cheap and

(40:10):
had him on a show man.Hey, that would have been cool for
a few people. But again,at that time, they weren't exactly hot,
you know what I mean. Sothat's that's why that they were.
They were ready to work. Theywere ready to come out and do a
show and just they were ready todo that sort of thing. God's terrible,
man, It's terrible, terrible,terrible stuff. But at the time,
looking back on it, man,I tell you what, Michael Hutchins,

(40:31):
that was. That was your rockstar. Man. That dude was
handsome. Holy shit, wow,I mean cantivating. He was so captivating
and you just couldn't take your eyesoff of him. And you know,
you would have to mention in thatthose three guys that you mentioned. You
gotta put Elvis in there. Thatthat charisma, that young Elvis and even

(40:55):
old Elvis, the charisma. There'sjust that, you know, I know
the TV show you know is XFactor, but before that, there was
a thing called you know, there'sthat X factor, and he had that
thing where he's just so unbelievably dynamicand just the coolest fucking dude. You
know, kind of how we talkeda little bit about Chris Cornell had that

(41:19):
thing that he just was like thefucking smoothest, coolest guy every room he
was in. Michael Hutchins was likethat too. You know, it's early
on and early on that early eightiesstuff which is going to play into my
list. He had it from jump. He had it from the get go,
the later stuff when the when theMTV video's really kicking in and stuff,

(41:42):
and he's got the long hair andhe's just a damn rock star.
You watch the videos and you're lookingat him and I'm like, why are
you even bothering to show the restof the dorks in that band? Those
are great musicians, but my god, man, like it's like standing around
next to Michael Hudgins, what's theboy? There's no reason nobody cares.
I mean, you gotta give eachguy a FaceTime. And there, Oh,

(42:05):
here's the drummer. Click andy klack, you know what I mean.
No, here's the bass player.Doom boom boom. Okay, great,
Now back to Hutchins, Like,you're like, why are they even in
the in the video shot? ButI get it. It's a band,
so it's cool. Did they puthim in there? But man, you
just look and it's like, thisguy is Mount Everest compared a bunch of
dorks on a hill. It's it'sunbelievable. And he you know, Michael

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Hutchins was a songwriter too. Yep. Between him and the keyboard player.
The reason we're doing this list todayis because Tim Ferriss from In Excess is
sixty six, So I don't knowthere's ferriss Is everywhere. But the keyboard
player, who's the dorkiest guy inthe band, he's the guy that writes
the music. He's he's kind ofthe musical genius. But he worked so

(42:50):
well with Michael Hutchins. There's agreat movie that they made and I saw
it on Showtime. It's a twopart thing where actors are playing in excess
that could go bad if they don'tcast the right people. So it wasn't
big enough to be on the bigscreen. And I think it might have
even been made in Australia, butyou know, it might be called Never

(43:14):
Tear Us Apart or something like.It's a song title and it's really good.
The dude that they get to play, Michael Hutchins, is perfect,
and you know that that's the onethat has to be cast, right,
Oh yeah, because it's what's thepoint, it's you get it wrong,
it's due who's watching. It's reallygood when you're I'll look it up in
a minute, but I don't knowwhere you would see it. But I

(43:37):
learned a ton about the band,and apparently the band was on board with
it and everything. It's cast reallywell, it's done really really good.
I'll find the name of it beforewe're done. Who wants to go first?
Here? You're the bigger fan,Okay. I have a funny feeling
you're gonna have better songs, andI don't. They have a fucking million

(43:59):
great song. Do you agree withme on that that they have a million
great songs? Yes? Because itwas weird because I was putting my five
down, I'm like, whoa,oh shit, I gotta I thought it'd
be easy these five. Well thenI had like nine and I'm like,
oh shit, this is this isn'tgonna be easy. There's five singles on
Kick five singles that were all bangers. Yep. Yeah, yeah, it's

(44:21):
a great shit. You know,that's like, that's the all time thing.
They were. They were you two. I mean they were as big
as you two. I mean theywere as big as like you see,
like a cold Play. They gotto that level eighty eight eighty nine that
you know they could have been onyou know, they could have been on
one of those rolling Stones. Youknow, here's the biggest band in the
world in excess. They were,they were up there you know, the

(44:44):
Police had their moment. You two'shad their moment for a long time,
but in Excess had a moment wherethey were kind of one of the biggest
bands in the world. Yeah,I think they. I think they were
kind of running on a steam whenNirvana hit too though. They're they're out
their songs kind of like, ohyeah, you know, but Nirvana hits
and then okay, now that Iguess not just hair metal, but a
lot of the new wave shit kindof went quiet real quick too, you

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know, yeah, absolutely, don'tyou go ahead and start this thing off?
Okay and see what you got here. Five singles off of the Kick
album. That album is a masterpiece. Never Tear Us Apart is my number
five song. What It's an amazingsong, number five. Michael Hutchins vocals

(45:34):
are phenomenal on it played at hiswedding, and I believe it's the I'm
Sorry played at his funeral. Ithink that's the only inex in Excess song
played at his funeral. That's heavy, right, didn't know that? Yeah?
Wow, Okay, that's a bigdeal. When you pick one song
that you're laying your buddy, yourbrother, you're laying this guy to rest.

(45:58):
That's the one that was played,So I got that edit. Number
five, it's just it's just anunbelievable song. Number four is uh,
suicide Blonde. Oh yes, Inever got into that one. I don't
know why Suicide Blonde. That harmonicayeah, very stones like, Yeah,
that harmonica is so awesome. AndI remember the video and you know,

(46:23):
if you didn't have that song,you would never have the seven nation Army
video if you know what any ofthese videos looks through. Yeah, but
it's it. I love the song. It's it's the follow up. It
came out so Kick was so huge, and then they came out with Suicide
Blonde, and I just thought,oh fuck, okay, because a lot

(46:44):
of times, you know, Badputs out a huge album, you know,
Third Live, Line five singles,right, Matchbox twenty four singles,
and then you know, tell me, tell me what the second album did,
or you know, the album afterthat, they came out with Suicide
Blonde, and they fucking punched itin the mouth again. It was awesome.
Yeah, number that's my number four. Number three is Mystify. Mystify

(47:09):
was the fifth single that they releasedoff of the Kick album, right,
and it's just they got the fingerssnapping and the piano and I don't know,
it's just I love it. Numberthree mystify. Number two is the
title track from Kick is Kick,And that's what got me to buy that

(47:30):
album. Man. That song wasjust sometimes you kick, sometimes you get
kicked, and it was a fuckingrocker, and that's what kind of led
me to believe that, Okay,these guys could rock. It's a rock
song. It is an absolute banger. Number two is Kick, and then
number one is going all the wayback to nineteen eighty two. You want

(47:52):
to watch a video and you'll seethat Michael Hutchins already has it. Don't
change. Yeah, it was coveredby the Google Dolls. It was covered
by a bunch of other bands,but the Google Dolls definitely borrowed some stuff
back in the day from in Excess, and they definitely borrowed from that song
and they wound up doing a coverof it. But yeah, in Excess

(48:14):
going back to eighty two, Dude, they're all super skinny. The videos
kind of hockey, but they're stilllike in the outback, so they hadn't
even you know, they hadn't seenthe world yet. But you could just
tell that Michael Hutchins. Even thoughthe movements are very early eighties, it's
very blended. Carlisle, go go. Everybody's got the same kind of move

(48:39):
Yeah, he's got a jaggeresque kindof style in that video. I was
just watching it. Yeah, he'sgot a bit of a Jagger eighties vibe
going on it if you watch hismoves a little bit. But he already
has it, like there's this weirdconfidence from this young kid. They were
kids in that. Oh god,yeah, yeah, they were kids.
They were teenagers Jesus and talented outof the gate, you know. Yeah,
and this is before he had along haired was a badass. You

(49:00):
know. Wow, good list.Don't Change. And I think even with
all the hits that they had,I believe even though I never saw him
live, I think they used toclose with Don't Change, so they kind
of knew, you know, thisis the one that kind of put us
on the map, that at least, you know, opened up the doors
for us. Obviously the Kick albumput them on the map. But when

(49:22):
you when you hang on to somethingold, it's it's it's Metallica, you
know, ending with Seek and Destroyright now, they're going all the way
back to kill them all and youkind of know, like that's your walkout
music, right right, Well,disappear it's a banger, you know,
first of all, it's got tempoand you know you don't want to walk

(49:43):
out after never Tear Us Apart.It's kind of a bummer, you know,
all it would be great, butlike don't Change makes sense. Plus
you're you're you're herketing back to like, hey, we were like twelve when
we wrote this song. It wasawesome. You know, there's probably a
lot of emotional ties to go intoit for the bad you know, yeah,
like you're not going anywhere you needto hear all of don't Change,
you know. But I think thatwhen they played that, you knew it

(50:06):
was over. Like Van Halen,I hated that they would go out with
Jump. I know, it's thebiggest song. It was the worst song
to end on. I would fuckingopen with Jump, just be like,
fuck you here we go. Atthat point, they had so many songs
everybody knew. No one's there tosee Jump really at the end of the
day, unless like somebody's wife whodoesn't know anything. Good list man,
Wow, we have a couple ofsimilar tunes on here, but a different

(50:29):
order. I will say number fivefavorite in excess tunes. Number five,
nineteen nineties X album Disappear, greatsong, fucking great. And I may
have this wrong because I listen toa lot of in accessing. It's that
do Do Do Do Do However hedo Do Do Do Do Do Do Do
Do Do Do Just that is awesome, like you Get Away with So Disappear

(50:57):
in nineteen ninety from X. Numberfour from Kick eighty seven, Needs You
Tonight. Oh yeah, I meanthose you can't go wrong. All of
those songs are just you know,fuck if you got a devil inside,
I can't. They're all great.They're all great, man. Everything off
that album is amazing, so cool. Number five for three nineteen eighty five.

(51:21):
Listen like Theeves. I don't knowwhy I like that song. I
don't even know where it came from. It was on my playlist. I
must have downloaded it at some point. I listened to that song all the
damn time, even today. Idon't know why. I have no idea
love it. Listen like these fromnineteen eighty five, going back pretty far.
Number two, same song from Kickeighty seven, never tear us apart

(51:43):
head number two, just because it'sso fucking good, so good, that
would be the song that you wouldsay, to quote an earlier moment in
the podcast, follow the Ass,Follow the Ass. That's the song,
and like but great back in theday, that had to be played at
every wedding, right weddings, absolutelyevery wedding. That had to be the

(52:06):
fucking prom song that year, allthat shit. Eighty seven. Yeah,
I can only imagine, you know. And then oddly enough, this is
got a fucking Sack solo in it. This is this is wild. I
don't think we've had the same numberone. God, it doesn't happen very
often. Don't Change nineteen eighty two, Shaboo Shooba album eighty two. Don't

(52:28):
Change. Now. What's interesting aboutthat, Rod, It's like I said,
I came to this band much muchlater. I didn't take the original
wave. I learned about Don't Changebecause of the Google Dolls cover and Buffalo.
We played it up there for awhile and I was like, damn
it, this is and I knewit was a cover. I mean,
I knew that they had covered it. I'm like, this is fucking great,
and I'm like, and I lovethe energy of it, and I

(52:50):
went, well, let me go. I always want to go back and
listen. If I don't know asong that's a cover, I want to
go back and hear what they didfrom the original. How did they change
it? And all of the googledolls, what really did with it is
speed it up a little bit andget a little more rockish. But that
is so great. That is sucha great, great freaking song. And
they look like they're twelve in thevideo. They come in that warehouse and

(53:12):
they're dancing around like jag Offs andthey're right, but they're looking at them.
You're like, you're all skinny,skinny, skinny. But for eighty
two that was in the pocket.That's why I kind of got the utuo
vibe off of them. You know, they had that early YouTube vibe looking
and you could see where their similaritieskind of happening, and you're like,
wow. And Michael Hutchins again looksgot a little bit of that Jagger esque

(53:34):
moves. He's it's like it's likehe's doing them. Then he's like stopping
himself from doing doing those Jagger movesbecause he knows it's fucking Jagger. When
you watch the video for Don't ChangeIt, you can feel it. You're
like, oh, don't do thatone, because that's Jagger, you know
what I mean. You could justsee him kind of sorting it all out,
and then as he got older,it's just like fucking rock star,
absolute rock star. Yeah, theDevil Inside. I think that was the

(54:00):
song they play in this In theone scene in the movie rock Star with
Marky Mark after they do the firstshow, they go to that party,
he takes a pill. He takesa pill, and then and then Jennifer
Aniston, fuck it starts making outwith that check. It's so great.
Oh my god, let drink thatin front. Gotta love that movie.

(54:22):
The last song that they really hada hit with was Beautiful Girl, and
It's come to me so much tome. Andrew Ferris wrote it for his
daughter, right right, and uh, beautiful Girl is this great video and
it's long before people started using theand again it's so funny, like a

(54:42):
lot of this in excess stuff.We don't do this anymore with bands,
at least I don't, but Iassociate these songs with videos. The imagery
was so important with you know,a band like in excess because of everything.
How we're just doating over Michael Hutchins. But they just they made cool
videos too. But I just rememberthe Beautiful Girl video and it really if

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you want to go back and lookat this nineteen ninety two, who else
was doing this? It was totallike this body positivity with all these different
girls in shapes and sizes and everythingin this video, which is so commonplace
right now, But it wasn't happeninglike that in ninety two, you know,
And I mean even go to SuicideBlonde. They're using the hot models
boom boom boom, they're hitting youin just hot chicks, the whole thing,

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but a little classier than hot forteacher from Van Halen. They were
just a little classier, but theywere still using they were still selling sex.
That Beautiful Girl song man, Ithink he'd be impressed with that video.
They were ahead of their time onthat and he wrote it about his
daughter. And it reminds me becauseit's such a good song. It's almost
an answer to and I do thinkAndrew Ferris is that good a songwriter.

(55:52):
He's the keyboard player. John Lennonhad that song beautiful Beautiful Boy that he
wrote for his son, right,and uh, Sean Lennon and uh,
this is kind of like his versionof it. It's it's it's pretty fucking
great. But that was kind ofthe last time that they you know,
Nirvana was already doing their thing whenwhen that song came out, and In

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Excess was already kind of it's weirdto think about it because Michael Hutchins died
young, but he was you know, he was thirty seven when he died,
and In Excess was old news.Yeah, he was old news.
The world was changing and it wasnot taking in Access along with him.
No, no, And when youthink about eighty two, we just talked
about it, don't change nineteen eightytwo, nineteen ninety seven. You said,

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that's a hell of all run.That's a long, long run.
And at the end it was spiralingout of control. I mean, they
weren't on the radio Munch anymore.And then obviously he had some issues,
a lot of issues, you know, with drugs and stuff. You know,
the way he went out was justawful. You know, I remember
hearing about it going he what what? Oh, Yeah, this is the

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first time I had ever heard ofauto erotic asphyxiation. Never I've never heard
of it before, you know,And it's like what I mean. I
mean, if Jack and Offs aresaying enough, like you gotta bring yourself
to the point where you're choking yourselfand passing out. You got a belt
around your neck and you're hanging yourselftrying to trying to finish before you fucking
die. That's how Bill died.Yeah, David Charity, I don't know

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it was David David or Keith Charity, David Krty David. He did the
same thing. I'm like, youknow, obviously you can't put yourself in
someone else's shoes, but you're kindof like, I get that if I
did it, it would people go, yeah, that could see that.
Michael Hudgins unbelievably great looking dude,cool rock star, kind of thought he

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could maybe get a girl, achick. Maybe you know, that's not
why you do it. You know, you know, you were all I
go out that way. People wouldjust go yeah, yeah, I totally
get it. I believe the moviethat I'm talking about is Never Tear Us
Apart, the untold story of inExcess, and again this is where they

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went out and got people so theguy who played Michael Hutchins is Luke Arnold,
and yeah, the Fairest Brothers,and everybody that played the Fairest Brothers
everybody looked unbelievable. You gotta getsomebody to play Bono because Bono plays a
big role in Excessive story. Andthen the guy that put together Live Aid,

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the guy from the Boomtown Rats Geldof, Bob Geldoff. He plays a
big role in this because Michael Hutchinsstarts banging his chick and then he has
a baby with her and wants Bonoto be the godfather. He's like,
I can't be the godfather this kid, fucking Bob Geldoff's my best friend.
It's like, dude, you're puttingme in a weird spot here. Man,

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you I love you, but you'rebanging my best friend's ex wife and
now you're asking me to be thegodfather. This was all in this movie.
It's I'm telling you, I don'tknow where you can watch it.
Trust me when I say the castingon this it's just like you how much
you loved Austin Butler. That isit's Elvis, Elvis, Listen, this

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isn't a made for TV. Thisisn't a made for the big screen thing,
but if you like in Excess,I promise you the guy that plays
Michael Hutchins is nails. Really,Yes, that's cool. I was just
sit there thinking about how we alwaystalk about like what what band would deserves
a big screen In Excess doesn't deservethe big screen treatment. But I think
I think if someone did, likeMoley Crude did like the Dirt and did

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it for like Netflix or whatever astreamer, I think there's enough meat on
the bone there with all the hits, all the songs and starting out at
eighty two and all the backstories.If you can get the band to sign
off on the real stories, that'dbe something worth watching, you know.
I mean, this sounds cool whatyou're talking about. This is it.
I think this is what's they becauseI mean, this is what they had
for the Australian audience. And thenit probably played everywhere in the world.

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But I mean it played on ourchannels here. I saw it on Showtime
or something, and it's two partsand it might be you know, it
might be you know, an hourand a half, two episodes, you
know, three maybe maybe maybe fourhours. But man, it's just it's
it's compelling and you just you seethem as their somebody from the band.

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I don't know if it's Andrew Ferris, one of the Fairests. I don't
know if the if they how closelythey monitored this, but it really talks
about the creativity and how these songscame together. And dude, I mean
just like you're watching the you know, Bohemian Rhapsody, and it's like they're
putting an ideas are coming and youknow, boom boom boom. Yeah,

(01:00:45):
you know, like they in themovie, they show like, hey,
this this came to me, weshould try something like this. They're talking
about these songs that became these hugehits and these ideas that were flowing,
you know, in Accessment had thisrun where just like everything they tried was
working, and the movie does areally good job portraying that, telling you
it's great. I will have tocheck that one out because like I've already

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seen The Bear, I've finished it, so now I'm gonna find some other
things to watch. And I don'tI don't want to dive into another series.
It's there's just too much of acommitment, you know. But this
I could do. Plus it's musicand stuff, so that that's kind of
cool. I'll have to check thatthing out, man, very cool.
I don't know where the heck canfind it, though. Let me before
we wrap this thing up here,listen, I was just in New Orleans.
It's awesome. I'm sure it's hot, but man, people were there

(01:01:29):
party in red dress. I gotto see my friend Jason. If you
head to New Orleans you can seeJason. He does tours. It's Pirates
of the Quarter. Pirates of theQuarter dot Com is the website. It's
a French Quarter walking tour, butit's different than every other tour that is
available in the city. Real piratehistory, the stories of like how New

(01:01:52):
Orleans became New Orleans, the historyof New Orleans. It's all like fact
based and it's fun. You're gonnacome away like knowing cool stuff. Book
your tour at Pirates of the Quarterdot com. If you already took the
tour and you maybe didn't get themerchandise because he didn't have it yet,
well they got it now, socheck out the shop page at Pirates of

(01:02:13):
the Quarter dot com. They gotkick ass t shirts for sale. Everything
is at Pirates of the Quarter dotcom. Everything on socials is at Pirates
of the Quarter and they're making movesover there, so I can't wait for
some new announcements coming soon with what'sgoing on with our pirate friends. Look,
as much as the Pirates of theCourt would love you to buy a
T shirt, take that money rightnow this week and go over to the

(01:02:37):
Buzz dot com and get yourself yourRod Ryan shows cares a T shirt.
That's more important to me right now. All right, don't worry about that
other the Pirate ship. But whenyou come to Nworance, come see the
Pirates man before we wrap up.Rod. You know, we always talk
about like albums and music and allthat. It's kind of our wheelhouse.
So I just Google did a littlework today and I dug up the top

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selling rock albums of all time accordingto the website Yard Barker dot com.
I'm not sure how credible they are, but they said they did a lot
of research and looked at the numbers, the record industry charts and graphs,
so it's legit. I looked athim like, oh, this makes sense.
So I'm not gonna boy you withall the details, but I just
wanted to kind of go through this, so people got an idea. Like
when we talk about like certain albumswere like, oh, Creed did this

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and Nickelback did that, people arelike, well, what's the context in
that? Right? So if youlook at it, and I'll just go
I picked the top ten. Butthen I realized I had to throw at
number eleven because it's really something thatwe talk a lot about. This is
the top selling rock albums of alltime. Okay, can you guess number

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one? You probably know it.Eagles Greatest Hits. Congratulations you win the
prize. Number eleven didn't. Itdidn't sell. It didn't sell more than
like say, Michael Jackson's Thriller.But we're just talking rock albums now,
right, So Michael Jackson wouldn't beon here, or Garth Brooks wouldn't be
on here. Garth wouldn't be onthere. Michael Jackson and for some reason
fits on this list, and Idon't know why. I guess really any

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interesting, Well, I mean it'sweird. I mean whatever. Lordlines,
number eleven, Appetite for Destruction,Guns and Roses, eighteen million albums.
I've bought in probably four over theyears. So You're Welcome Slash number number
ten. Fleetwood Mac Rumors twenty millionalbums. Pretty just played here. Stevie
Nicks just played here. And it'sfunny. You got a guy on my

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show, Alex who's you know,thirty five, doesn't know anything about Fleetwood
Mac nothing. Why would he?You know what I mean, he shouldn't.
But Daisy Jones and the Six andthen he deep dives, which he
does because he's this obsessive guy,and then boom, he goes to see
Stevie Knicks and his mind is blown, you know, by something else.
Daisy Jones and the Six, whichhe's watched twice now start to finish,

(01:04:51):
got him to go to go seethat, and you know he can tell
you all about rumors and you knowhow important it is. And it's funny
how something got him. There's thatis actually kind of cool about that.
Twenty million number nine. Hoody withtheir album Cracked rear View Mirror twenty one
million albums. Hooty out sells Rumorswhich you know again, Pink Floyd the

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Wall twenty three million at number eight. Billie Joel's Greatest Hits twenty three million
at number seven. The White Albumfrom the Beatles number six twenty four million
copies. Zeppelin four twenty four millioncopies. That's the one with rock and
roll and staring with Heaven. Numberfour ac DC Back in Black twenty five

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million albums sold. Number three EaglesHotel California twenty six million. Number two
again, not sure why it fallsinto the rock category, but I think
I don't know who gives a shitwhy Number two Michael Jackson Thriller thirty four
million copies, and then Eagles GreatestHits number one, thirty eight million copies.

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I wonder if those numbers the recordingindustry artists of America are I a
a right? I wonder if thoseare true album like sound scan numbers.
And I wonder if they've taken andweighted the download factor and all of that,
because that probably is like that thatsounds to me like a true album

(01:06:23):
sale number. What I mean byweighted is I don't know. It's such
a crazy thing to explain, butif you download an album, I don't
know that they give you credit forselling an album. I think you have
to download X amount of albums tocount as an album sale and singles,
and if you download a certain numberof singles they'll give you. They've got

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some algorithm which we all have heardthat before. There there is a way
to figure out what is the equivalentof all this downloading and streaming. What
is the equivalent they have. That'swhy all the numbers are off when you
when you look at all of thisstuff, Drake is gonna have the top
everything. Drake is gonna Drake's gonnaoutsell the Beatles because they're they're waiting and

(01:07:12):
they're looking at all these streaming numbersand everything. Now, it's really weird.
You can kind of I mean,you're the program director, you should
know this ship. I don't.I don't know. I couldn't even begin
to explain it to somebody. Butthey have come up with a mathematical formula
that if you get x amount ofstreams, well we're going to count that
as buying the single. It's weird, Yeah, it's it's a weird formula.

(01:07:35):
They gotta read, they gotta redoeverything. So if you want like
asterisks and all of that, there'sgonna have to be there's gonna have to
be pre this and pre that,right right, Well, you think about
that situation, who's buying albums anymore. They're just there's not the album sounds
like they're used to because you don'tneed to. People are smart now you
can buy the songs you like offan album. You don't gonna sit through

(01:07:55):
the shitty songs. I mean,back in the eighties and in nineties especially
four, we switched over to everythingis streams and buying singles as you had
to buy the album, so theremight be one or maybe, if you
were lucky, two good songs onan album the rest of his ship a
lot of times, but you boughtthe album, so that was an album
sale, and that's where a lotof record that was made so much money.

(01:08:17):
And then when singles started coming out, you're like, oh, I
could just buy the single. Ohthat's cool. And that's why when we
went to just downloading and streaming,record industry went, oh shit, yeah,
that's why we are where we are. To say now, personally,
I've gone back to vinyl in thelast few years, and I've bought albums
and I'm only gonna buy albums nowthat they are either like something I have

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no idea about it, through jazzor whatever, or bands that I'm like,
oh, okay, this will beworth buying this album because I know
it's going to be good. They'renot going to put a bunch of shitty
filler on there. You know.I bought the new Food Foot Food Fighters
album. Great start to start tofinish, both sides awesome, you know,
but it's it's rare. I'm notbuying albums. You know. If

(01:09:00):
I if I hear a song,I like it, all right, I'll
download it. You know, I'llget the Chris Stapleton song you talked about.
I'll go get me some Hairy Stylessingles. Not buying a fucking Hairy
Styles album, just not doing it, although maybe I should. I don't
know, maybe I should. Thatmakes me a real fan. Final thoughts,
Jason, I don't buy albums.I wear suits now, but I

(01:09:21):
don't wear I buy albums now.I buy albums. That's what I do.
I buy albums now. This guy, this guy, I'm like,
dude, the Bear. You watchthe Bear. You watch the Bear.
The Bear's great, Bear's great,Bear's great. I'm so glad you finished
it. The Christmas episode I said, I said, it's the Red Wedding.
Is that a pretty good way toexplain what that explosive episode is it's

(01:09:45):
just shocking. Emmy nominations everywhere.Okay, Emmy's for everybody. There's so
many special guests in it. Idon't want to ruin it because it's still
pretty new. Yeah, you justthrow them out into the room and go
here. You just just grab yours. It's like throwing a Halloween candy on
the table. Just grab what youwant. It's good. Everybody grab one.
It's cool. You'll see you later, put your name on it later.

(01:10:05):
But Jamie Lee Curtis just won anAcademy Award. I promise you,
she wins an Emmy for this.I promise you. Now keep him on
the Emmys. That just came outin the nominations. That was for season
one of The Bear Correct everything thatcame out so and it was nominated,
it pretty heavily nominated. And uhand that's before most people even knew,

(01:10:26):
like what the hell this show was. So I had no idea. When
season two rolls around, forget aboutit. It's gonna everybody's gonna be up
for everything. But I promise youspecial guest at whatever, Jamie Lee Curtis.
I'm just gonna say that that's notrooting anything. I don't think so.
And I think I said the samething when we were watching it.
I was like, I was like, Oh, there's your Emmy, you
know, right there. She justkills it. She kills it. Although

(01:10:49):
there's plenty of people in that scenethere in that episode that you're like,
well everybody, everybody there, heavyhit shit, heavy hitting. Yeah.
Yeah, you gotta watch the Bear. If you haven't one yet, do
the Hulu thing. Watch it.It's not a lot of episodes. It's
pretty freaking great. I've learned alot through it. It's inspired me to
do better cooking now. I've actuallyi've been doing a little more, a

(01:11:11):
little more cooking, Rod. Idon't know if that happened to you,
you know, if you started going, ah, you know what fun that
I'm gonna throw a little more,a little more action than in my dinners
now I have. I've done that. I've maybe taking a little bit more
time plating my stuff up, Imean, rather than just slapping it on
the plate. Those fudgation you know. You know when I had my kid
that mac and cheese, you know, I wiped the sides a little bit.

(01:11:33):
I'm I'm polishing her little you know, her little frog fork I'm polishing
it up and stuff. You know, I got a little I have a
little presentation now when I'm serving upmy kid, you know, toast points,
cut the crust off. I gotthem on there a certain way.
Now. Yeah, yeah, Ihonestly have. I really have, because

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I I've done the same thing.I actually was standing the other day and
I'm looking at a fork and I'mI'm a napkin. I'm polishing the fork
as I'm like kind of standing andwaiting for something to finish in the microwave.
I'm like, you gotta watch itand all of this stuff will make
sense. It's really good. It'sa well done, well done series.
Rot Any thoughts, final thoughts,Yeah, completely shameless. Man, one
more time, one more plug.This is it. This is my last

(01:12:15):
time telling you, please, man, go in the rod Ryan show Cares
online store. It's my last timetelling you go into the store until I
tell you to go in the storeagain and go buy for something else.
Because we're gonna start Boob's Rock.We're gonna be you know. Prostate Cancer
Awareness Month is in two weeks,so I'm looking to get like my store
offline for two whole weeks and thenfire up a whole new line of stuff

(01:12:40):
and we'll get into we donate moneyfor breast cancer research. I got a
golf tournament, I got all thisstuff coming up. I mean, this
is the season that it's just there'sno rest at all. But so yeah,
this is it. Saturday, wepass out the backpacks. I'm gonna
keep the store open all weekend long. So we're recording Wednesday night. This
goes up on Thursday, so Fridaypay day, it's not too late.

(01:13:02):
You're like, well, Rod's passingout backpacks tomorrow. He doesn't need my
money. Fuck I don't I needyour money. And I'll let you go
shop all weekend long. The RodRyan showcares online store. Just google it.
You'll get there. You'll get there. Language language, Come on,
man, you're passing off backpacks thelittle kids. You gonna talk like that

(01:13:23):
out there? And what's up,cousin, No, I will not.
It's awesome. It's gonna be hot, but it's gonna be great. It's
awesome. Well, congratulations on allyour work on this, and it's a
big deal. I don't think peoplerealize, you know, you don't.
We're all just victims of going Ohthat looks cool. That's cool. Good
for them. Nobody realizes the workthat goes into these things, you know

(01:13:44):
what I mean, Like anything likethat, any of these charities, any
of the races you see, anythingthat anyone does. There's a shit ton
of work that goes into behind thisthese but we all just kind of go,
oh, that's cool. You knowthat's cool. But that guess works.
And I've used this one in podcastsbefore. You know, people have
asked me, hey, man,you know I bought a T shirt?
Can I come and pass out backpacks? That sounds like pretty fun, man,

(01:14:05):
it sounds pretty rewarding. It's reallyrewarding. It really is. We
just have so many people out therethat your heart's in the right place and
thank you for helping. But thisis my reminder, and this is anybody
that's listening in New Orleans and Jason, you've worked with different charities. Man,
What doesn't cost you anything but justyour time is volunteering at these places.

(01:14:27):
So I work with Houston Children's Charity, there's the Houston Food Bank.
I know you have first harvesters overthere. They need people, they need
boots on the ground. So youknow, you hear me and I'm always
asking for money. At least I'mtrying to sell you a T shirt or
buy a you know, a fuckingcouzi or something to get something from your
doage. I know, but becauseso many people ask me because they know

(01:14:53):
we're going to be there and theyknow we're passing out backpacks. And it's
one of my favorite days of theentire year. It really is. I
mean it may it's not. That'snot lip service either, man. That
it makes all that hard work kindof worth it. You're passing off these
backpacks, and it really is.It's very rewarding. But the Houston Furniture
Bank and the food banks and allthese they need help, man. They

(01:15:15):
need help, man, and theycould use you on a Saturday. And
I tell people that want to passout backpacks, well, Houston Children's Charity
they do a mattress program, theydo a store at Christmas time. They
need your help. So if you'rehot right now because you want to pass
out a backpack, keep the heatgoing, man, call someplace. Hey,
can I volunteer? Can I volunteer? Everyone's got a website and everyone

(01:15:39):
has a place click here if youwant to help. You know, it's
not of course, everybody wants yourmoney, but man, they need your
time. They need you to godown there on a Saturday and spend a
couple of hours, maybe sorting throughclothes and stuff. You know, that's
everybody. Would it be fair tosay that they maybe need hands? Rod
hands, I need hands. Thisguy's obsessed with the bear. Oh my

(01:16:03):
god. Every time, like,I'll hear it in the garage. My
wife will come back. I needhands. I'll come running. There you
go. I'm I'm in New Orleansa red dress run. Jason's on his
way down. I'm at this barthat he used to go to that I
still go to boondocks saying, I'mlike, all right, let me know
when you get close and I'll meetyou. And this girl's sitting next to

(01:16:25):
me and she just happens to sayshe's from Chicago. I'm like, did
you watch the Bear? She goesfucking right, I watched the Bear.
It's awesome. The show takes placein Chicago. I'm like, did you
watch the Bear? You're from Chicago. I didn't ask her if she watched
Chicago Er or Chicago Hope or BlueBloods or whatever. There's all those Chicago

(01:16:47):
shows. You think I asked herabout anything. I go, did you
watch The Bear on Hulu? She'slike, yes, of course, that's
awesome. Yeah, yeah, it'spretty good. Yeah. I mean obviously
we've talked to death, but yeah, check it out anyway. Follow us
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watch this disaster on our YouTube channel. Throw it on your comments. Let
us know your top five favorite inExcess tunes of all time and any other
future top five's you got. Buyeraway. I'm out of here. I'm
done. I've had a nice night. Rod. It's good, good hanging
tonight. Love the Inexcess List.Thanks everybody. Go find us wherever you

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