Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good evening. Welcome to Voice in the Wilderness. I'm Don Noble,
a Pure Heart Ministries, and I welcome you today with
exceedingly abundantly and overflowing joy. I've been speaking to you
about whatever happens. This is Part three and the premise
is on the scripture that Paul wrote to the Philippian Church,
(00:21):
and that scripture is Philippians one twenty seven, which says,
whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the
Gospel of Christ. So the last time I spoke, I
talked about walking in that maturity where we know the
will of God, we pursue the will of God. And
(00:46):
today I want to continue in helping us to understand
the maturity of being a Christian, or understanding the maturing
of a Christian. And I want to start today in
the Book of Hebrews, and the writer of Hebrews writes
(01:10):
in chapter twelve some verses that I think are going
to be very helpful to us. I'm going to read
it in the New King James first, then I'm going
to read it in the Amplified Classic, then I'm going
to read it in the New Living Translation. And the
reason is that you get the full scope of what
(01:31):
this writer is trying to say to us. So if
you have your Bible turned to Hebrews chapter twelve, and
I'm going to be reading verses five through eleven, and
it says, and you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks
(01:54):
to you as to sons, my son, do not despise
the chastening of the Lord, nor be discouraged when you
are rebuked by him. For whom the Lord loves, he
chastens and scourges every son whom he receives. If you
endure chastening, God deals with you as sons. For what
(02:18):
son is there whom a father does not chasten. But
if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers,
then you are illegitimate and not sons. Furthermore, we have
had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect.
(02:44):
Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to
the father of spirits, and live, for indeed for a
few days chastened, For they excuse me, for they indeed
for a few days chastened us, as seem best to them.
(03:06):
But He for our profit, that we may be partakers
of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful
for the present, but painful. Nevertheless, afterward, it yields the
peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained
(03:29):
by it. Okay, let's look at that in the amplified
Classic version. Therefore, then, since we whoops, that's starting with
verse five, I mean one, let's start with verse five,
and you completely forgotten the divine word of appeal and encouragement,
(03:53):
in which you are reasoned with and addressed as sons,
My son, do not think lightly or scorn to submit
to the correction and discipline of the Lord, nor lose
courage and give up and faint when you are reproved
or corrected by him. For the Lord corrects and disciplines
(04:14):
every one whom he loves, and he punishes even scourges
every son whom he accepts and welcomes to his heart
and cherishes. You must submit to and endure correction for discipline.
God is dealing with you as sons. For what son
(04:37):
is there whom his Father does not thus train and
correct and discipline. Now, if you are exempt from correction
and left without discipline in which all of God's children share,
then you are illegitimate offspring and not true sons at all. Moreover,
(05:06):
we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us, and we
yielded to them and respected them for training us. Shall
we not much more cheerfully submit to the Father of
spirits and so truly live? For our earthly fathers disciplined
us only for a short period of time and chastises
(05:31):
as seemed proper and good to them. But he Christ
disciplines us for our certain good, that we may become
shares in His holiness. For the time being, no discipline
brings joy, but seems grievous and painful, But afterward it
(05:55):
yields a peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have
been trained by it, a harvest of fruit which consists
in righteousness, in conformity to God's will, in purpose, thought,
and action, resulting in right living and right standing with God. Now,
(06:22):
before I go on to read those sets of scriptures
in the New Living Translation, I do want to make
a comment here in the Amplified Classic in verse eleven,
it's showing us about that process of maturing when the
(06:51):
word says here, when we have been trained by the discipline,
When we've been trained by the discipline, we reap a
harvest of fruit to righteousness. And what that's saying. The
scripture says here that it is in conformity. In other words,
(07:15):
it conforms to God's will in purpose, in thought, and
in action, which ultimately results in right living and right
standing with God. So there is your key, so to
(07:36):
speak about understanding this maturing process, because the maturing process
is really conforming us believers to God's will, not just
something ethereal out there what's God's will, but conforming us
(08:00):
to God's will in purpose, to God's will in our thoughts,
to God's will in our actions, which actually results in
right living and right standing with God. Okay, let me
read these same scriptures then in the New Living Translation,
(08:25):
starting with verse five. This is Hebrews chapter twelve, verses
five through eleven. I'm reading out of now the New
Living Translation. And have you forgotten the encouraging words God
spoke to you as his children. He said, my child,
(08:48):
don't make light of the Lord's discipline, and don't give
up when he corrects you. For the Lord disciplines those
he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as
his child. Verse seven. As you endure this divine discipline.
(09:15):
Remember that God is treating you as his own children.
Who ever heard of a child who is never disciplined
by its father. If God doesn't discipline you as he
does all his children, it means that you are illegitimate
(09:36):
and are not really his children at all. Since we
respected our earthly fathers who disciplined us, shouldn't we submit
even more to the discipline of the Father of our
spirits and live forever for our earthly fathers disciplined us
(09:59):
for a few years, doing the best that they knew,
how But God's discipline. God's discipline is always good for us,
so that we might share in his holiness. No discipline
is enjoyable while it is happening. It's painful, but afterward
(10:26):
there will be a peaceful harvest of right living for
those who are trained in this way. So let me
go back to the beginning here, starting with verse five,
(10:49):
and the writer is addressing you know, he says my son,
but in the New Living translation it's translated my which
I think is a better translation right there, because we're
not talking about the male gender. Okay, So when it
(11:11):
says my son or it talks about God deals with
you as with sons. He's not. The writer's not talking
about the male gender. The writer is talking about children
of God, male and female. So when he says my son,
(11:36):
I like the New Living Translation, which says, my child,
do not despise the chastening of the Lord. That chasening
is discipline, the number one thing if you're going to
mature properly as a believer in Christ, you don't want
(11:57):
to despise his discipline. He's chastening. Now. He's going to
discipline us. He has to because our human nature is
contrary to God's nature and God's ways and God's will,
(12:18):
and we still have this adamic nature working in us
that we have to train, and the Lord has to
discipline this behavior in us because Adam's nature tends to
make us do anything and everything that's not of God,
(12:43):
not God's ways, not God's nature. So when we're acting
out in the flesh the nature of Adam is the
nature of our flesh, then there's going to be discipline.
There's going to be a chastening. Now, the writer says,
(13:04):
but don't be discouraged when you are rebuked by the Lord.
Don't get discouraged. Don't be like you know, because you've
heard me say many times. If you listen to me
when the Lord has disciplined me, you know, it's like
(13:24):
he takes me to the woodshed. And I'm telling you
he knows how to discipline so sweetly, so gently, and
yet you get it. You understand that he is truly
disciplining you. You know, I remember as a child, I
(13:48):
remember being disciplined by my father with a strap bend
over and ooh, yeah, it was painful. Like the scripture says,
chastening is not joyful for the present, it's painful. Well,
this was physically painful. A few cracks with the belt
(14:13):
really did hurt. But the Lord says those that he
loves this is key verse six. For whom the Lord loves,
he disciplines. So you have to remember that when the
(14:33):
Lord is disgiving you a discipline, or or he is,
you know, chasing you, disciplining you, he really loves you.
He really loves you. And if verse seven says, if
you endure it, God is dealing with you as a
(14:56):
child of God. Now in the New King James, it
says he deals with you as sons. But again we're
not talking male gender. We're talking male and female children
of God. So if you endure the chasing and the discipline,
(15:17):
God's dealing with you as a son or as a daughter.
And the writer says, for what son or daughter is
there whom a father doesn't chasen? Then he says in
verse eight, but if you are now he flips it.
(15:38):
If you endure it, he deals with you as a
child of God. Verse eight says, but if you are
without chasening, then you're illegitimate, and you're not a son.
Do you know what that means? If you're illegitimate and
not a son, then you're really not his. You're really
(16:01):
not his. You're not a child of God. I don't
know about you, but I don't want to be called illegitimate.
I'm a son. I'm a daughter of Christ, and I
hope you are too. And then verse nine furthermore, we've
(16:22):
had human fathers who corrected us. Now in the day
we live, there are a lot of human fathers who
don't even discipline their children today. And that's why children
run rampant. They you know, they are exceedingly rebellious because
(16:44):
the father has not brought correction. The father has you
know how many children in America today I don't know
about the world, but in America today many children are
father lives. Yes, so there is no father in the home.
(17:05):
And then those who do have a father, many of
these fathers are just not doing their job as a father.
They're not disciplining their children or correcting their children. But
like I would say, most of my generation growing up
(17:28):
in the early fifties and sixties and seventies, our fathers,
our human fathers, brought correction to us, and if you
had any sense about you, you would pay them respect.
So the writers saying, if your human father who brought
correction to you and you paid respect to, wouldn't you
(17:52):
more willingly, more readily tolerate and be in subjection to
your heavenly father and live and live? That's that's key
verse ten, For they indeed for a few days chasing
(18:12):
who's he talking about? Heavenly? Are excuse me? Our earthly fathers,
our earthly fathers out of the New Living translation for
our earthly fathers disciplined us for a few years. Hey,
they did the best they knew, how The scripture says,
that is the truth. My father wasn't born again, you know,
(18:35):
and his father ooh, was not not a good father
at all. So my father, my earthly father, didn't have
a good example for a father, so he just did
the best he could. And I think for the most part,
(18:58):
my earthly father did a pretty good job, considering that
he didn't know Jesus. But it says, but God's discipline
is always good for us, right, It's for our profit.
(19:18):
When God brings discipline in your life, it's for your benefit,
it's for your profit, it's for it's always good for us.
That's what you have to remember. That's what you have
to focus on. Because our heavenly Father is not in
(19:39):
any way, shape or form like our earthly father. We
can't compare them. People often do that. They often think
that their heavenly father is somehow like what their earthly
father was. So if their earthly father, you know, was
a really bad father, they're going to have a hard
time and struggle with their heavenly father and understanding how
(20:04):
much our heavenly father loves us, how much our heavenly
father's for us, how much your heavenly Father is disciplining
us for our own benefit, for our profit, for our
for our best, always doing good for us. There's never
a negative when it comes to the heaven, to our
(20:26):
heavenly Father disciplining us, chasing us, there's never a negative.
There's nothing bad that's going to come out of that.
That's what you have to grasp and understand, because look,
if you endure it, then you're a son, you're a daughter.
But if you don't, if there's no no chasing, no
(20:52):
discipline comes in your life, you're illegitimate and you're not
a child of the living God. And of course verse
eleven says, like I said earlier, there's no discipline that
seems joyful. You're never gonna like have a happy face.
(21:17):
Oh yes, please come discipline me, Lord, Come, yes, I'm
ready for the discipline. I'm I'm just a happy camper
waiting to be disciplined. No, there's it's not joyful for
the present, and it may feel painful. One thing about it,
The Lord is not going to cause physical pain to
(21:39):
you at all. Ever, there will be no physical pain
when the Lord disciplines you, not like your earthly father.
But here's what's going to happen. The scripture said, it's
going to to yield the peaceable fruit of righteousness to
(22:06):
those who have been trained by it. And the New
Living translation says, but afterward there will be a peace
full harvest of right living by those who are trained
in this way. In other words, what this chasing does
(22:32):
is it gets us and keeps us on the track
of right living. So if we're trained in this and
we allow and endure the chasing of our heavenly Father,
we're trained this way, we're allowing him to train us
(22:52):
this way, we're allowing him to bring discipline in our life.
Then it's going to bring forth a peaceful harvest of
right living. We are going to as let me go
back to the amplified classic, and it says, but afterwards
(23:19):
it yields a peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who
have been trained by it, which means it's a harvest
of fruit which consists in righteousness, which is in conformity
to God's will in purpose, in thought, and in action,
(23:41):
resulting in right living and right standing with God. It
really doesn't get any better than that. Let me just say,
it just doesn't get better than that, because there's a benefit.
Do you see if you can endure the chasening as
a sign as a daughter, there's a huge, not just
(24:04):
a tiny benefit here. This is a huge benefit. You
have to understand this, because this is a huge benefit
to you and I, because it will conform us, because
we're being trained by it. It's going to conform us
to God's will and our purposes in our thoughts and
our actions, and then we're going to have right living,
(24:26):
righteous living, and we're going to have right standing with God.
Let me conclude with what James wrote in chapter five,
starting starting with verse seven, James writes, Therefore, be patient, brethren,
(24:54):
until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer
waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently
for it until it receives the early and latter reign.
You also be patient, establish your hearts, for the coming
of the Lord is at hand. Do not grumble against
(25:15):
one another, brethren, lest to be condemned. Behold, the Judge
is standing at the door. My brethren. Take the prophets
who spoke in the name of the Lord as an
example of suffering and patience. Indeed, we count them blessed
(25:37):
who endure. You've heard of the perseverance of job and
seen the end intended by the Lord. That the Lord
is very compassionate and merciful. So in this set of scriptures.
The Lord is using an example talking about the prophets.
(26:01):
First of all, you know, telling us look at their lives,
look at what they went through, look at what they suffered,
look at the patience that they had to endure and
the discipline they had to endure. And then he talks
about the perseverance of Job and all the Job endured.
(26:24):
And guess what, it was intended by the Lord to
bring a great end to Job's life. So there was
an intention, and because Job endured the discipline and the punishment,
(26:46):
he had a great ending. It says in the scripture
here he saw the end intended by the Lord. That
the Lord is very compassionate and merciful. So just when
you think that you can't endure this anymore, you have
(27:07):
to remember God's word. The Lord is very compassionate and
very merciful to you. Amen. So we will as believers.
I just conclude with this, we are going to persevere.
We're gonna stay steadfast in the love of God. We're
gonna endure that chastening so that we can be called
(27:33):
the sons of God, the daughters of God, the children
of God. Amen. And we our lives will conform to
God's will in purpose, thought, and action, resulting in right
living and right standing with God. Amen. Well, this is
Don Noble. You can go to www dot pureheart dot
(27:55):
today and listen to this podcast again. You can download
the iHeartRadio app, go to podcast Pure Heart Ministries and
listen to this podcast twenty four to seven. I'll just
put that request out there, Hey, email me Don Dawn
(28:16):
at pure heart dot today, Don at pureheart dot today,
all lowercase letters, and of course I'd love you, love
for you to sew a seed to the ministry. You
can send a check to Pure Heart Ministri's po box
eighty five, Valley Grove, West, Virginia, two six six to Oh.
(28:36):
Please don't forget to pray for me and this ministry
and what God's doing. We look forward to being with
you again next week. This is Don Noble saying, shall oam, shalloam?
Peace be unto you
Good evening. Welcome to Voice in the Wilderness. I'm Don Noble,
a Pure Heart Ministries, and I welcome you today with
exceedingly abundantly and overflowing joy. I've been speaking to you
about whatever happens. This is Part three and the premise
is on the scripture that Paul wrote to the Philippian Church,
(00:21):
and that scripture is Philippians one twenty seven, which says,
whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the
Gospel of Christ. So the last time I spoke, I
talked about walking in that maturity where we know the
will of God, we pursue the will of God. And
(00:46):
today I want to continue in helping us to understand
the maturity of being a Christian, or understanding the maturing
of a Christian. And I want to start today in
the Book of Hebrews, and the writer of Hebrews writes
(01:10):
in chapter twelve some verses that I think are going
to be very helpful to us. I'm going to read
it in the New King James first, then I'm going
to read it in the Amplified Classic, then I'm going
to read it in the New Living Translation. And the
reason is that you get the full scope of what
(01:31):
this writer is trying to say to us. So if
you have your Bible turned to Hebrews chapter twelve, and
I'm going to be reading verses five through eleven, and
it says, and you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks
(01:54):
to you as to sons, my son, do not despise
the chastening of the Lord, nor be discouraged when you
are rebuked by him. For whom the Lord loves, he
chastens and scourges every son whom he receives. If you
endure chastening, God deals with you as sons. For what
(02:18):
son is there whom a father does not chasten. But
if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers,
then you are illegitimate and not sons. Furthermore, we have
had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect.
(02:44):
Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to
the father of spirits, and live, for indeed for a
few days chastened, For they excuse me, for they indeed
for a few days chastened us, as seem best to them.
(03:06):
But He for our profit, that we may be partakers
of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful
for the present, but painful. Nevertheless, afterward, it yields the
peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained
(03:29):
by it. Okay, let's look at that in the amplified
Classic version. Therefore, then, since we whoops, that's starting with
verse five, I mean one, let's start with verse five,
and you completely forgotten the divine word of appeal and encouragement,
(03:53):
in which you are reasoned with and addressed as sons,
My son, do not think lightly or scorn to submit
to the correction and discipline of the Lord, nor lose
courage and give up and faint when you are reproved
or corrected by him. For the Lord corrects and disciplines
(04:14):
every one whom he loves, and he punishes even scourges
every son whom he accepts and welcomes to his heart
and cherishes. You must submit to and endure correction for discipline.
God is dealing with you as sons. For what son
(04:37):
is there whom his Father does not thus train and
correct and discipline. Now, if you are exempt from correction
and left without discipline in which all of God's children share,
then you are illegitimate offspring and not true sons at all. Moreover,
(05:06):
we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us, and we
yielded to them and respected them for training us. Shall
we not much more cheerfully submit to the Father of
spirits and so truly live? For our earthly fathers disciplined
us only for a short period of time and chastises
(05:31):
as seemed proper and good to them. But he Christ
disciplines us for our certain good, that we may become
shares in His holiness. For the time being, no discipline
brings joy, but seems grievous and painful, But afterward it
(05:55):
yields a peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have
been trained by it, a harvest of fruit which consists
in righteousness, in conformity to God's will, in purpose, thought,
and action, resulting in right living and right standing with God. Now,
(06:22):
before I go on to read those sets of scriptures
in the New Living Translation, I do want to make
a comment here in the Amplified Classic in verse eleven,
it's showing us about that process of maturing when the
(06:51):
word says here, when we have been trained by the discipline,
When we've been trained by the discipline, we reap a
harvest of fruit to righteousness. And what that's saying. The
scripture says here that it is in conformity. In other words,
(07:15):
it conforms to God's will in purpose, in thought, and
in action, which ultimately results in right living and right
standing with God. So there is your key, so to
(07:36):
speak about understanding this maturing process, because the maturing process
is really conforming us believers to God's will, not just
something ethereal out there what's God's will, but conforming us
(08:00):
to God's will in purpose, to God's will in our thoughts,
to God's will in our actions, which actually results in
right living and right standing with God. Okay, let me
read these same scriptures then in the New Living Translation,
(08:25):
starting with verse five. This is Hebrews chapter twelve, verses
five through eleven. I'm reading out of now the New
Living Translation. And have you forgotten the encouraging words God
spoke to you as his children. He said, my child,
(08:48):
don't make light of the Lord's discipline, and don't give
up when he corrects you. For the Lord disciplines those
he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as
his child. Verse seven. As you endure this divine discipline.
(09:15):
Remember that God is treating you as his own children.
Who ever heard of a child who is never disciplined
by its father. If God doesn't discipline you as he
does all his children, it means that you are illegitimate
(09:36):
and are not really his children at all. Since we
respected our earthly fathers who disciplined us, shouldn't we submit
even more to the discipline of the Father of our
spirits and live forever for our earthly fathers disciplined us
(09:59):
for a few years, doing the best that they knew,
how But God's discipline. God's discipline is always good for us,
so that we might share in his holiness. No discipline
is enjoyable while it is happening. It's painful, but afterward
(10:26):
there will be a peaceful harvest of right living for
those who are trained in this way. So let me
go back to the beginning here, starting with verse five,
(10:49):
and the writer is addressing you know, he says my son,
but in the New Living translation it's translated my which
I think is a better translation right there, because we're
not talking about the male gender. Okay, So when it
(11:11):
says my son or it talks about God deals with
you as with sons. He's not. The writer's not talking
about the male gender. The writer is talking about children
of God, male and female. So when he says my son,
(11:36):
I like the New Living Translation, which says, my child,
do not despise the chastening of the Lord. That chasening
is discipline, the number one thing if you're going to
mature properly as a believer in Christ, you don't want
(11:57):
to despise his discipline. He's chastening. Now. He's going to
discipline us. He has to because our human nature is
contrary to God's nature and God's ways and God's will,
(12:18):
and we still have this adamic nature working in us
that we have to train, and the Lord has to
discipline this behavior in us because Adam's nature tends to
make us do anything and everything that's not of God,
(12:43):
not God's ways, not God's nature. So when we're acting
out in the flesh the nature of Adam is the
nature of our flesh, then there's going to be discipline.
There's going to be a chastening. Now, the writer says,
(13:04):
but don't be discouraged when you are rebuked by the Lord.
Don't get discouraged. Don't be like you know, because you've
heard me say many times. If you listen to me
when the Lord has disciplined me, you know, it's like
(13:24):
he takes me to the woodshed. And I'm telling you
he knows how to discipline so sweetly, so gently, and
yet you get it. You understand that he is truly
disciplining you. You know, I remember as a child, I
(13:48):
remember being disciplined by my father with a strap bend
over and ooh, yeah, it was painful. Like the scripture says,
chastening is not joyful for the present, it's painful. Well,
this was physically painful. A few cracks with the belt
(14:13):
really did hurt. But the Lord says those that he
loves this is key verse six. For whom the Lord loves,
he disciplines. So you have to remember that when the
(14:33):
Lord is disgiving you a discipline, or or he is,
you know, chasing you, disciplining you, he really loves you.
He really loves you. And if verse seven says, if
you endure it, God is dealing with you as a
(14:56):
child of God. Now in the New King James, it
says he deals with you as sons. But again we're
not talking male gender. We're talking male and female children
of God. So if you endure the chasing and the discipline,
(15:17):
God's dealing with you as a son or as a daughter.
And the writer says, for what son or daughter is
there whom a father doesn't chasen? Then he says in
verse eight, but if you are now he flips it.
(15:38):
If you endure it, he deals with you as a
child of God. Verse eight says, but if you are
without chasening, then you're illegitimate, and you're not a son.
Do you know what that means? If you're illegitimate and
not a son, then you're really not his. You're really
(16:01):
not his. You're not a child of God. I don't
know about you, but I don't want to be called illegitimate.
I'm a son. I'm a daughter of Christ, and I
hope you are too. And then verse nine furthermore, we've
(16:22):
had human fathers who corrected us. Now in the day
we live, there are a lot of human fathers who
don't even discipline their children today. And that's why children
run rampant. They you know, they are exceedingly rebellious because
(16:44):
the father has not brought correction. The father has you
know how many children in America today I don't know
about the world, but in America today many children are
father lives. Yes, so there is no father in the home.
(17:05):
And then those who do have a father, many of
these fathers are just not doing their job as a father.
They're not disciplining their children or correcting their children. But
like I would say, most of my generation growing up
(17:28):
in the early fifties and sixties and seventies, our fathers,
our human fathers, brought correction to us, and if you
had any sense about you, you would pay them respect.
So the writers saying, if your human father who brought
correction to you and you paid respect to, wouldn't you
(17:52):
more willingly, more readily tolerate and be in subjection to
your heavenly father and live and live? That's that's key
verse ten, For they indeed for a few days chasing
(18:12):
who's he talking about? Heavenly? Are excuse me? Our earthly fathers,
our earthly fathers out of the New Living translation for
our earthly fathers disciplined us for a few years. Hey,
they did the best they knew, how The scripture says,
that is the truth. My father wasn't born again, you know,
(18:35):
and his father ooh, was not not a good father
at all. So my father, my earthly father, didn't have
a good example for a father, so he just did
the best he could. And I think for the most part,
(18:58):
my earthly father did a pretty good job, considering that
he didn't know Jesus. But it says, but God's discipline
is always good for us, right, It's for our profit.
(19:18):
When God brings discipline in your life, it's for your benefit,
it's for your profit, it's for it's always good for us.
That's what you have to remember. That's what you have
to focus on. Because our heavenly Father is not in
(19:39):
any way, shape or form like our earthly father. We
can't compare them. People often do that. They often think
that their heavenly father is somehow like what their earthly
father was. So if their earthly father, you know, was
a really bad father, they're going to have a hard
time and struggle with their heavenly father and understanding how
(20:04):
much our heavenly father loves us, how much our heavenly
father's for us, how much your heavenly Father is disciplining
us for our own benefit, for our profit, for our
for our best, always doing good for us. There's never
a negative when it comes to the heaven, to our
(20:26):
heavenly Father disciplining us, chasing us, there's never a negative.
There's nothing bad that's going to come out of that.
That's what you have to grasp and understand, because look,
if you endure it, then you're a son, you're a daughter.
But if you don't, if there's no no chasing, no
(20:52):
discipline comes in your life, you're illegitimate and you're not
a child of the living God. And of course verse
eleven says, like I said earlier, there's no discipline that
seems joyful. You're never gonna like have a happy face.
(21:17):
Oh yes, please come discipline me, Lord, Come, yes, I'm
ready for the discipline. I'm I'm just a happy camper
waiting to be disciplined. No, there's it's not joyful for
the present, and it may feel painful. One thing about it,
The Lord is not going to cause physical pain to
(21:39):
you at all. Ever, there will be no physical pain
when the Lord disciplines you, not like your earthly father.
But here's what's going to happen. The scripture said, it's
going to to yield the peaceable fruit of righteousness to
(22:06):
those who have been trained by it. And the New
Living translation says, but afterward there will be a peace
full harvest of right living by those who are trained
in this way. In other words, what this chasing does
(22:32):
is it gets us and keeps us on the track
of right living. So if we're trained in this and
we allow and endure the chasing of our heavenly Father,
we're trained this way, we're allowing him to train us
(22:52):
this way, we're allowing him to bring discipline in our life.
Then it's going to bring forth a peaceful harvest of
right living. We are going to as let me go
back to the amplified classic, and it says, but afterwards
(23:19):
it yields a peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who
have been trained by it, which means it's a harvest
of fruit which consists in righteousness, which is in conformity
to God's will in purpose, in thought, and in action,
(23:41):
resulting in right living and right standing with God. It
really doesn't get any better than that. Let me just say,
it just doesn't get better than that, because there's a benefit.
Do you see if you can endure the chasening as
a sign as a daughter, there's a huge, not just
(24:04):
a tiny benefit here. This is a huge benefit. You
have to understand this, because this is a huge benefit
to you and I, because it will conform us, because
we're being trained by it. It's going to conform us
to God's will and our purposes in our thoughts and
our actions, and then we're going to have right living,
(24:26):
righteous living, and we're going to have right standing with God.
Let me conclude with what James wrote in chapter five,
starting starting with verse seven, James writes, Therefore, be patient, brethren,
(24:54):
until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer
waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently
for it until it receives the early and latter reign.
You also be patient, establish your hearts, for the coming
of the Lord is at hand. Do not grumble against
(25:15):
one another, brethren, lest to be condemned. Behold, the Judge
is standing at the door. My brethren. Take the prophets
who spoke in the name of the Lord as an
example of suffering and patience. Indeed, we count them blessed
(25:37):
who endure. You've heard of the perseverance of job and
seen the end intended by the Lord. That the Lord
is very compassionate and merciful. So in this set of scriptures.
The Lord is using an example talking about the prophets.
(26:01):
First of all, you know, telling us look at their lives,
look at what they went through, look at what they suffered,
look at the patience that they had to endure and
the discipline they had to endure. And then he talks
about the perseverance of Job and all the Job endured.
(26:24):
And guess what, it was intended by the Lord to
bring a great end to Job's life. So there was
an intention, and because Job endured the discipline and the punishment,
(26:46):
he had a great ending. It says in the scripture
here he saw the end intended by the Lord. That
the Lord is very compassionate and merciful. So just when
you think that you can't endure this anymore, you have
(27:07):
to remember God's word. The Lord is very compassionate and
very merciful to you. Amen. So we will as believers.
I just conclude with this, we are going to persevere.
We're gonna stay steadfast in the love of God. We're
gonna endure that chastening so that we can be called
(27:33):
the sons of God, the daughters of God, the children
of God. Amen. And we our lives will conform to
God's will in purpose, thought, and action, resulting in right
living and right standing with God. Amen. Well, this is
Don Noble. You can go to www dot pureheart dot
(27:55):
today and listen to this podcast again. You can download
the iHeartRadio app, go to podcast Pure Heart Ministries and
listen to this podcast twenty four to seven. I'll just
put that request out there, Hey, email me Don Dawn
(28:16):
at pure heart dot today, Don at pureheart dot today,
all lowercase letters, and of course I'd love you, love
for you to sew a seed to the ministry. You
can send a check to Pure Heart Ministri's po box
eighty five, Valley Grove, West, Virginia, two six six to Oh.
(28:36):
Please don't forget to pray for me and this ministry
and what God's doing. We look forward to being with
you again next week. This is Don Noble saying, shall oam, shalloam?
Peace be unto you
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!