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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Get us at wall Stone, M. Benitos.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I am today in all I cannot believe it still
that I have a special guest that is a graduate
from Harvard actually was born in Maryland, and she's going
to share why she is here in Boston, in Massachusetts,
how she has changed her life moving to a state
that she's actually running, and how today we're going to
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learn to help our community do better as citizens, as
residents of one of the best states.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Of the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
With us, we have our Governor of Massachusetts, Maura Heally
Mora BM Benita, VM.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Benida. It's so great to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Thank you so much for taking the time to visit us.
We had an opportunity to do a quick tour about
the offices around all the stations that we cover here,
and it's really really nice to see you interact with everybody.
You shook everyone's hand. That's impressive. That's really really heartwarming.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, first of all, it's so impressive how many stations
are here, and I just really appreciate everybody out there
working so hard to communicate right to the people. So
many people look to radio personalities, they trust radio personalities,
and so it was just great for me to get
the chance to be able to come by and meet everybody,
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say thank you. You've got a super cool studio too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, talking about credibility, one of the things that actually
connected to you, me to you from the very beginning
was the athletism. So I was a figure skater from Mexico,
believe it or not.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Really, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And you go to basketball on your end, right, how
was that for you, Like, how was it growing up
with sports?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, you know, I was raised by a single mom.
She had five of us. I'm the oldest of five,
and one of the things she just encouraged us to
do was to play sports, study hard in school, play sports,
keep yourself busy, keep active, keep out of trouble. Yeah,
And so I really loved sport where it's all sports,
and played basketball from the time I was little, and
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it led me to play in college, and then I
played professional basketball in Europe for a few years after college,
which was.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So you are thrilled right now that you see all
the ladies thriving and then the teams that are actually
coming here and playing the Connecticut Sagna.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Now. So when I graduated from college, there was no
professional women's basketball league in the United States, so if
you wanted to play pro, you had to go overseas, correct,
and that's what I did. Now, it's so great to
see women's sports and professional women's sports at the level
we have now, where the WMA people coming from all
over to see women play, and these stadiums are full,
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and we've got soccer, and we've got so many women's
professional sports. So I'm super excited. But you know, for me,
I don't think i'd be governor if it weren't for
sports and my background. I mean, you discipline, right, don't
you just teach us so much teamwork, teamwork, working hard,
learning to set goals, and learning also what happens when
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you fail, Right, You're not always going to have a
great game or a great meet or a great practice,
but you know, you also learn how to work through
that and you become more resilient as a result. So
I'm just I'm just so grateful that for all that
sports has been.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
So happy that your men mentioned the failure, because I
was going to go right there. For me, the stress
level when competing it was horrible. I would used to
like throw up and pass out and I could not
do it when you are talking about failure, it's also
a learning experience.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
What was one of those.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Biggest learning experiences that you had while failing?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well failing, you know, And I'm glad we're talking about
failure because I think not enough people talk about it.
They talk about wins, they talk about successes. But I
think a test of someone and a test of a leader,
is how they do when things are hard, when there
are challenges in life. You know, for me, my earliest
challenges came when I was a little kid and my
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dad left the family right and my mom was raising
us alone, and she went back to work as a
school nurse, and I saw her working through challenges, and
that really stuck with me. I mean later in life.
I remember when I first got a contract and I
was playing overseas, and you're at my very first game.
I had the ball in my hands with like a
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few seconds left to go, and we were down by
one or two, and I had a chance to make
the winning basket and I missed, which was hard, which
is a hard way to set us start on your
shoulders to my career over there. But you know, sort
of grew from that experience and became a better player
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and teammate for it. But I think, you know, I
think resilience is really important right now and for people
to learn that and to learn that that you have
the ability in yourself, you know, to come through and
to work through things. And we all have to help
each other along too.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Is that why you focused a lot on civil rights?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah? You know. I got a law school, I was
a lawyer. I was a business lawyer for a long
time trial lawyer for a long time, and then I
decided to take a big pay cut, seventy percent pay cut,
and I left private practice, quit the big firm, and
went to the Attorney General's Office to lead the Civil
Rights Division. And I think it comes from just having
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a I don't know. I love people, you know, and
I want fairness right and I don't want people to
be mistreated or discriminated against because of their race, because
of their religion, because of you know, who they are,
And I don't know. To me, like growing up as
a little kid, and I mentioned my mom was a
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school nurse. I remember the kids who got bullied. I
remember the kids who got picked on, and my mom
was really clear about you take care of those kids,
you stand up for them and you know, I just
it's something that became part of like what I believe deeply,
and so as a civil rights lawyer, you know, that
was a chance to go out and protect against discrimination
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and to stand up for people's rights.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
How has it been Because in this show we get
a lot of emails, and our whole mission is to
educate and provide tools and resources to our community. I
have experienced as a woman in a leadership position some
challenges I cannot even imagine. As governor, how is it
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for you as a woman to run a state with
so much wealth and risks and also targets and challenges.
How is it for you, Maura? You know, stepping into
that office and saying this is me. It's on my responsibility,
my accountability if something goes wrong or if something goes right.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, I definitely feel that responsibility. I mean I put
my hand up to run for this job. I love
my job. I love being governor, and yes, with it
comes a lot of responsibility. I oversee about fifty thousand
state employees. That's a lot who are working out there
across the state. I've got a budget of about sixty
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billion dollars to manage, and my job is to be
a really good CEO and leader for our state. And
I think in today's environment, anybody who's in political office
you have to get used to the criticism. Not everybody's
going to agree with what you do or say. But
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you know, I feel comfortable knowing if I've made the
very best judgment that I can, if I've heard from
all the people and I've taken in all the INFORMAA facts. Right,
I have your facts, and I'm here to make the
best call that I can. I feel very comfortable with that.
I'm glad that I was also Attorney general for eight years,
and I think that experience really helps me be a
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better governor because, you know, the things that I'm trying
to push on today are you know, things that I'm
trying to make happen statewide, because you know, when I
was Attorney General, I was the people's lawyer. As governor,
you know, you were, you were the leader for the state.
And I view my mission every day as how do
I make life better, more affordable, improve the quality of
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life for residents around Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So we're talking about the challenges that comes with the
job as Attorney General.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I don't think that anyone.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Or if ever you thought that you were going to
be ruling a state under the ambious and circumstances that
we have today. Patriots to a point zero, it's incredible
for Oza's immigrants and Latinos in my case, to see
what's happening in our surrounding areas.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
What is it like for you in your shoes. It's
really painful, It's really heartbreaking to see what the Trump
administration has been doing to our communities. I mean, Donald
Trump has made cuts to food for babies, heating assistance
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for seniors, He's made cuts to housing, He's made cuts
to healthcare services for our veterans. And so you just
see all these things happening that are so harmful to
people in our state, frankly Americans around this country. And
then you also see this attack on immigrant communities. And
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you know, I'm from a family of immigrants. My grandparents
came here from other countries and build a life. And
you know, here I am today governor of this great
state of and you know, the American story is the
immigrant story. And you know, I what I'm seeing that
is so heartbreaking is the number of people who have
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been taken out of our communities who are landscapers and
construction workers and nannies and healthcare aids, people who have
been living here for years, decades, sometimes paying taxes, raising
their kids, contributing to the good of our communities and
all of that taken away. And you know, it makes
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no sense. And I've said, look, I was a prosecutor.
I'm all about going after bad guys, going after violent criminals,
taking them off our streets, taking them out of our communities.
I support that. What I don't support, though, are efforts
by ICE agents to park their car outside churches or
childcare centers, or to do other things that you know,
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the idea that you're you're ripping people from our streets. Kids.
The other day we had a young sixteen year old
boy with disabilities who was taken by ICE. Right, we
have had parents taken from their cars in front of
their young kids. I mean, this is so sad, This
is traumatic, and you know, we continue to call on
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the Trump administration to stop this. You know what Donald
Trump should do, He should work with Congress right now
and do immigration reform so we have a pathway to
citizenship and so that we have the right measures in place. Instead,
you know, he's just it seems to be this is
all about intimidation, about fear. And here's what's also so
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sad to me as governor, because people are afraid. We've
got kids who are not going to school, We've got
people who weren't going to doctor's appointments or seeking care.
We've got people who are really really struggling. And you know,
it's a terrible and challenge time right now for our
immigrant communities. My office is doing a lot to support
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our immigrant communities. We are with helping families out right
now who may have lost your bread winner from their family.
We work a lot with our immigrant advocacy organizations on
funding and it's just so hard.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
That's what you are doing as far as the government's side.
But as a community, how can we help you? What
can we do to help you defend us and protect
us and at the same time staying prepared if anything
happens to us.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Look, I think that we have to continue to be
in communication. I've encouraged communication between law enforcement and community organizations,
and in fact, much of that has worked very very well.
The relationship between local law enforcement and our immigrant communities
across Massachusetts has worked very well. What hasn't worked well
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is ice agents coming in from all around the country
to our Massachusetts communities and not giving people due process.
Massed agents. We don't know who they are.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Which the governor of California just passes side the law.
How about OZ Are you thinking about doing it something?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
It's something we're thinking about right now. My focus is
on how do I make sure I'm protecting public safety.
How do I make sure that our immigrant families and
community organizations know who to call when they see something
unlawful happening in their community. I'm working to support the
efforts to make sure that people understand that they can,
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for example, film and document and tell the stories. How
can you help you ask? I think it's really important
for people to continue to tell the story of what's
happening in our immigrant communities right now. I mean, we
have one and a half million people that we lost
in unemployment just the last few months, and I see
the devastating effect on farmers now across the country who
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don't have work, don't have a work force. You see
what's happened in some of the factory rates. This doesn't
make sense economically to our country. And again, if it
were about public safety totally either. Yeah, And I always
say if it's about public safety, every community wants public safety,
including immigrant communities. But instead what we're seeing is a
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threat by Steven Miller and the Trump administration to create
fear and anxiety and in doing so a lot of harm.
How about schools and our children?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Me as a mother, I was actually taking my daughter
to school, to Boston Arts Academy, and she's like, great school,
I love it. Yes, she was saying, Mom, I feel scared.
What if something happens. I don't want to put my
phone away because now they're taking the phones and put
them in pouches. And she said, what if something happens,
I don't want to be away from my phone. I
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don't remember going to school feeling that fear.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
What can you tell that? What you tell your daughter
that you know, our office in the Attorney General's Office
have trained educators, have trained teachers and school staff about
how to deal with ice. We've also trained people at
our community health centers and the likes. So you know,
I want to say to people, don't be afraid in school,
don't be afraid going to the doctor. But I also
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understand people's fear when we've had people like a college
student just taken off the street, you know, without notice,
without due process, without any justification. We later learned she
simply signed an op ed in a college newspaper. When
we have a sixteen year old taken off the street
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on his way to volleyball practice having done nothing wrong.
I understand people's fear, but we're just going to kind
of going to continue to communicate with our organizations. I
think it's important that people find ways to also document
what's happening, share that information with a low police, share
that information with the Attorney General's office and with my office,
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because we need to tell the story of the harm
out there and hope that that will get the Trump
administration to see that what they're doing is really really destructive.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And I think also for us, we need to have
communication internally within our family circle and also share a plan,
right like an emergency number, an emergency word that we
can tell you at home. Need to start having those conversations,
as harsh as they are.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
You need to prepare your children and know.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That we're in a state compared to others that are
really protecting us. And we thank you, obviously for all
the work that our departments are doing. And I've had
several secretaries here of the early education and public health.
We've noticed also mentally how deficient it will be if
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we continue to lose funds for our family members, especially
after the pandemic all the consequences that happened, because it's
a domino effect, right, where can we go from there?
Are our psychologists and therapists aware of these circumstances, and
how can we help them too.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I was talking to a pediatrician the other day and
she sees a number of patients from immigrant families in
Greater Boston, and she talked about little kids who are
showing up with such high levels of anxiety constipation. They're
so stressed out, and isn't that heartbreaking? It's heartbreaking. That's
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why that's why I want people to know. Okay, as
I go around the state and I hear from so
many people. People in Massachusetts support our immigrant families, They
support immigrants, and they understand, you know, and feel a
lot of pain at what we're witnessing right now. And
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you know, if it were about enforcement and public safety,
i'd say all in support that, but unfortunately, this is
not what it's been about at all, And so we
need to continue to encourage people to fund these organizations
that are providing food and housing and clothing and assistance.
There's a lot of ways to volunteer and get involved
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with families who are really suffering right now, and I've
encouraged people to do that. And meanwhile, we're going to
continue to train people on their rights. But you know,
it's certainly a time where people need to look after
one another.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, and especially now that you touch the subject on housing,
you have several programs and I've seen some changes, steal
a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
How can we get ahead?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
There's so much going on and the prices keep increasing
and you can see it, you can feel it, right.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah, But this is what this is why leadership matters, Okay.
And what I've done as governor is come in and say,
you know what, housing is my number one priority. We
don't have enough reasonably priced homes, affordable homes for people
in Massachusetts, and I am trying to change that. When
I started as governor, we estimated that we were about
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two hundred and twenty thousand homes short of where we
needed to be, and I immediately wrote and filed and
signed a lot to invest four billion dollars into housing,
to make changes to policy to build homes more quickly.
And as a result of that work that I've done,
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we've now got one hundred thousand homes being built. We
have more to do, a lot more to do, but
you know, it's it's really important to me because people
can't afford homes to purchase, they can't afford rent. I
recently got rid of broker's fees.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Now we're read speaking about us, that's great, and it's
also I mean, like I think that it's very important
for our community to understand what does that mean? You
have to ask the right questions, so the right people
not just signed contracts without reading. And also, you know,
the broker's fee is not that you're not going to
pay somebody that is helping you. It's actually for the
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landlord right that wants to send you that bill and
you making, you know, taking care of that.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That's right, No tenant, no renter, should have to pay brokers. Say,
we've also done things like you can build now accessory
dwelling units or an in law apartment as a matter
of right. You can just do that now, and that's
going to bring more homes online. That's when we gave
tax credits to developers to build more homes around the state,
particularly in some of our cities and gateway cities. And
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I recently offered up excess state land. We have some
surplus land that we're not using. Let's build homes on
that land. So you know, I know how hard people work.
And you know, if you're working, and you're working sometimes
multiple jobs, and you cannot afford rent, that's wrong in
this country. Well, never mind rent in the car, insurance
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and everything that piles, which is why you know, for me,
the areas that I'm focused on driving down costs your
housing bills, your housing costs, your energy electricity, heating bills,
and your healthcare costs. Those are the areas that I'm
really focused on driving down. And you know, I also
want to say, you know, there's a lot of good
things going for us as a state. I'm glad you've
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had my secretaries on our new our new secretary of education.
Love it again. I know, Pedro Martinez, familiar name, yes, yes,
but you know, wonderful. We are making huge investments in childcare,
in early education and childcare. We're making huge investments in
Cada twelve and I'm excited about that. A whole program
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my college, free college, free college, which is great, right,
go to college, you know, up your skill and get
out and get after the career.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
That you have given so much opportunity to a lot
of people, especially adults that have had that dream, and
they didn't have been means because either they support their
family or they pay for school.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
They couldn't afford it. You know what we did too,
Not only did we make community college free, we also
are giving stipends to students because to students because they
need gas money, food money, sometimes childcare money in order
to be able to take these classes. So it's not
good enough to just make community college free. You have
to make it so that students can. Actually, I'm so
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plead you're staying at school, finish the program, get that certificate,
get that degree, and get that job. That's going to
give them and their family economic mobility.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And that's why we did it well, economic mobility. And
also I believe that now with the twenty twenty six
year that we are facing, lot's happening to fiftieth anniversary
of the United States. The World Cup is coming to Boston.
We're super excited here at my show. I want to
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know how can we help our community maximize and capitalize
from those opportunities. Infrastructure is going to have to move
somehow and develop.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What can we do well. I just want to say
that the Latino community is on the move in Massachusetts.
There is no community that is growing at a faster
rate than the Latino community in Massachusetts. Thanks for acknowledging that.
It's so exciting. And when I think about the number
of entrepreneurs and business owners and people who are creating
jobs and powering our economy, I look at the vibrancy
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of the Latino community and I just want people to
know that I love our Latino community. And by the way,
it is so diverse, right, I mean, we have people
from all over who bring wonderful skills and talents, and
we want to support that. I've got something called the
Business front Door. So if you're a small business owner,
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go to our website, look at Business front Door and
see how there are government programs that can help you
as an entrepreneur, help you as a.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
The same as the certificates that we are able to
get as minorities.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Different that's another program. I'm talking this is available to
everyone in the state. Every small business owner. Go online
and see. You know, there are all sorts of programs
that can help you scale your business, grow your business.
I'm really excited about that. I also for business owners,
I recently cut a number of regulations. We wanted to
be cheaper to do business. We want it to be
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easier to do business, so you know, we're trying to
support that. But I'm really excited with the investments that
we're making in education, in our vocational schools, in our
traditional high schools, in our colleges and universities. I'm excited
about our workforce investments that we're making. And you know,
I look at the Latino community and it's super exciting.
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I also remind people too, we were talking about immigration.
Over half of the companies in this country are started
by people who were born outside of the United States
and they come here, they study here, they do research here.
I mean, Massachusetts is home to so many world leading innovations,
Nobel Prize governers. Right, And you know, one thing that's
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bothered me about the Trump administration is he's cut funding
for research and medical research and sures and treatments and
you know, we are making a big effort to fund
that because it's a reason why people come to Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It's funny that you say that. Not funny, but it's
actually interesting because you know, Daiities and I have that
nonprofit innovation hub.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
It's and that's.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
What we are looking for, giving opportunity to talented Latinos
Dominicus international. That's why it's International Innovation Hub, to bring
all that research and ideas.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
To establish in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And to bring back to their communities also what they
learn at MIT or some of these huge.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Colleges that we have here.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
But with the costs of funding, with the cuts of
also having students enter into these area internationally, it's very challenging.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It is, and that's why I've proposed four hundred million dollars.
We're going to use it to fund research, medical research, discovery, innovation,
and it's going to be a way to keep people
here in Massachusetts. And with people keeping staying here in Massachusetts,
that's going to attract more capital, more business to Massachusetts.
And you know, this is what we need to do.
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I'm proud of our state. You mentioned two hundred and
fifty years. You know, we're the state that had the
first school in the entire country, the first university in
the entire country, and so continuing to make we have
to keep celebrating and education. Oh yeah, we're going to
celebrate all year. But I can't wait for World Cup.
It's going to be like having seven Super Bowls in
a week. It's going to be amazing. And that's just
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think about it. Four hundred and fifty million dollars just
in forty five days. I know, it's crazy. It's also
why we're working really hard on our infrastructure, transportation. The
tea filling great general manager, doing great work. By the way,
the Tea has extended hours now late night hours through
the weekends, which you know, talk about vibrancy. We want
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people to be able to get into Boston, out of Boston,
enjoy all that the city has to offer, and be
able to do that later into the evening. It's good
for our local economy. So we've made that available on
the tea.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
We are so happy to have you here in Massachusetts
running our beautiful state and also here at kit Bosa Walston.
Governor Mora Heally, I am so thankful again for the time.
What message can you leave our children and our parents
in the Latino community.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Well, my message is I want people to have hope.
Massachusetts is a great state. You're living in the greatest
state in the country. You're living in a state that
values you, that sees you, that wants you to make
the most of the opportunities that you have and not
let anything get in the way. And you know, we're
here to support you with the kinds of investments that
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we make. And I also want people to feel joy.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Joy, you know, and it's let's go dance in the downtown.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You know what. I think it's I'm not kidding. I
think it's so important right now because you know, people
get depressed and they're down in the news cycle and
you know, and the and then you see violence and
shootings right and say, day after day after day, and
people wonder what is going on in our world? You
know what the world is your community. Engage in your
community acts of kindness every day, Smile at people, talk
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to people, say hello, let's create our own joy and happiness.
And and with that, you know that positivity that that
feeds on itself. And that's my message to kids is
you know, not only you're in the greatest state in
the country, but we're going to do everything to make
sure that you have all the opportunity that you can
possibly have.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Thank you so much yet us having me hand David.
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