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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the DLS Rangers Weekly Podcast, now part of
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DLS dot com. Now here's Jeff and John. Hey, everybody,
welcome to the DLS Rangers Weekly Podcast. This is episode
(00:23):
number twenty seven and today Maxton Martin and outfielder for
the Texas Rangers playing for Hickory crawd Eds this year.
He's going to be joining us here in a little while.
Don't forget to hit that subscribe button down below. This
one's brought to you today by the Round Rock Express,
the Triple af fieldband of the Texas Rangers. Anything fun
going on in around Rock right now?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Well, they're home, so that's always fun. And yeah, they
always have their promotions and all kinds of stuff that
they do every home stand, So get down there and
check them out.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
They're not straight too. We'll get into that in the
bus league team. Yeah, yeah, we'll get into that in
the bus. But they're a hot teams. Those guys down
there have really looked after you and I for a while. Now.
That's a good crew, Frisco. Hopefully he'll be doing some
stuff with us too. Then you get out to Frisco.
By the way, I was at him Frisco Tuesday night
for my daughter's boyfriend's family wanted to go watch the
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Dallas cowboy home run dirty raising money for uh. I
forget who they raise it for. I think it's the
what's Jerry's big cattle thing or whatever he does. Anyway,
he's pretty fun to watch. I'll tell you what. Who
is it that? Whether the punter is is Sanders, I
think his name. I don't know what my cowboys like.
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I used to know him because I boycotted him. But boy,
he was hitting the ball good. And they also had
a defensive that a wide receiver, Tolbert Albert that plays
wide receiver for him. That dude played baseball. He's the
only one that hit multiple balls up on the burnmo
out there I field. Yeah, he was tattooing it and
it was pretty you know, they had the shorter fence
they put out for the home run derby, and every
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ball that went over that was you know, like five
hundred or whatever. And then if you just hit a
fair ball, you got a hundred. And they were all
raising money for these charities. It's funny. To watch some
of these big old boys Micah Parsons, who he looked
okay swinging back. There are a couple of big old boys.
You could tell they'd never have a bat before, so
you're pulling for them more than and one of them,
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I forget who it was. And he was one of
the offensive tackles who just couldn't even get a ball
out of the infield. Someone gave him a porner. The
next time he actually hit one over that shorter fence
and it was It was pretty fun. Anyway, go out
to Frisco guys. They're out of town this week, but
they're gonna be back. I believe they are coming back
next week. But we're here to talk about the big
league team heartbreaker last night. For any of all. This
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is Friday, it's coming out today, it'll be out a
little bit later today. You were up late doing the postgame.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, you know, it's pretty funny. I used to always
want to go on the West Coast trip so that
I didn't have to stay up late, right, and and
there are West Coast strips in my future. But I
feel Rangers fans pain. But yeah, we did the show afterwards,
and uh, you know, we had a lot to talk
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about because it and it happened so quick, you know,
and you kind of you kind of felt like something
bad cap and a because it's the age. The Ages
always do that. Rangers are on the road. They're not
a good road team right now. But you know, just
too many mistakes and and you know the air of course,
so Leoti was a big one, but Wyatt Blankford never
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saw a fly ball that fell and two runs a score.
But you know, the offense is still sputtering. The pitches
that ended up doing the most damage. We were hanging
sliders by de Gram and Jackson. So a lot of
things you could point to. But you know, on the
San Francisco and they had to hop on a bus
and drive I don't know, eighty miles to get to
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their hotel in San Francisco, and it was they didn't
have to flying, which they just drove down the recommend
It was pretty close. Yeah, I mean, I technically you
can fly, but it seems like a giant pin in
the ass.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Absolutely lad to load to unload to do all of
that onto a you gotta load it all on the
truck to get it onto the plane, to get it
off the plane onto the truck. Yeah, eighty miles is
just to Yeah, just suck it up, boy, grab your phone,
watch something on your phone, and we'll be It's a.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
True minor league experience, you know. They played at the
minor league ball park us to the next place.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Hey, props to the age too. I don't care what
anyone says. That is a good looking young team put
together right there. Who we have made fun of. The
ownership is a piece of crap. And what they did
to those Oakland fans. And I understand some of it
because there was some stadium promises that didn't happen and
all of that, and I'm a capitalist at heart, so
I understand that. But boy, just up and go. And
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but these guys. He spent money finally on some free agents.
They're a good young team. And whether they're good or not,
they always give the Rangers trouble. They've always done that.
But I like what I'm seeing. I mean, this is
a good little they've They've signed a couple of free agents.
They're a good young team and I think there's somebody
to be reckon with here for a couple of years.
If they can play in them you know, if they
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stay in that ballpark, learn how to play that because boy,
the ball was flying.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Well, I think that's kind of you know, you look
at their lineup and those guys, those guys don't don't
just look for singles hopefully at the top in the
middle of the order. There they're they're swinging for the
fences and you know, it works out. And and they're young,
you know, like you said, and they're getting them extended
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and locked up.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I don't know where.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I guess with the future money coming in from Las Vegas,
he figures he can go ahead and the family and Fisher,
John Fisher feels like he can finally go out and
spend a little money. And I, you know, I you know,
there's a there's a reason why the Raiders, the A's
and the Warriors have left Oakland. Yeah, okay, now it's
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it's a it's a it's a two way street.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But the city itself has not has done nothing.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Has done nothing. It's the politics, the climate.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But you feel for the fans because those are the fans.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Sure, but you know what, but.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
They elect the city. The people that run the city, vote.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Vote, get the city council meetings, do all those things.
You know, but they did they didn't so at the
level I mean, I you know, Oakland's dump.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh the stadiums a piece of Cross City.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Is not nice either. Yeah, I don't have any real
I'm never gonna miss Oakland. Yeah, but you know it
is bad for fans and it's bad for baseball. You
never want to see teams move. You want I want
them to be support I guess. I guess the Rais
are next, you know. Yeah, and I like Saint Pete
a lot better than I like Oakland, But yeah, I
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don't know what's going to happen there.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I think Pete's more the retirement community, so a lot
of those older folks don't want to pay any more
extra taxes on it. And then Oakland just look, I've
said this all along, and for those that disagree, I
don't care what you say. In a town, it's good
for the city to help fund the stadium because you're
going to get money out of that. They don't understand
what it draws. You draw. Look what Arlington ended up
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doing when they got I mean, they've always had the Rangers,
they'd lured the Cowboys over look at that whole area.
Now you think that there's not hundreds of millions of dollars,
if not a billion every year that comes into that
area because they have six flags, they got the water park.
That's a place for some families they go to Arlington
for vacation.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, now, I mean they've got two nice hotels.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Beautiful hotels, Texas Live.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
They have Texas Live in one Ranger's Way if you
want to live there, and all these restaurants that are
popping up. I mean, yeah, you know it's you're you're
making an investment and the taxpayers are making an investment,
but getting the benefits on the back end. Right, it
does stuff for movements and you know, possibly lowering taxes
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in the future, helping schools. We look at the Northwest
ISD when Texas Motor Speedway was built. Yeah, you know
little Northwest is D when.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Nuts Now they had two high.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Schools out and they're spectacular. Yeah, and they're good, they're
great looking schools. All because and this has been when
NASCAR was huge, all because of Texas Motor Speedway and
the tax advantages that that little community got.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Absolutely and listen, billionaires, billionaires can, yes, they can buy
their own stadiums, build their own stadiums. They can do that.
But billionaires also can take their team somewhere where they're
gonna get That's why they're billionaires. They're going to get
theirs no matter what. They want to get help from
the city to help build fund their stadiums. They want
to do all of that, and they can do that.
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And it sucks and everybody that hates rich people da
da da da dah. But man, the advantage for the
people that live around there city we're getting into a sibyl.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I mean that's probably, yeah, exactly, you didn't want to
be out there after after dark. I've been out there
after It's not a place for.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Kathy and I went there a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, for you know, investment, there's not gonna be there's
not gonna be a Texas Live popping up.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And did you now when you would go there, did
you drive over to the stadium? Okay, So we took
the train from San Francisco because Cat and I were there,
and I don't know if you've ever been on it.
There's this bridge thing that walks from the train across
and it looks like prison things. Yeah, I mean the
chain link fen that comes up with the barbed water
at the top that you walked through, and yeah, it's
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a little it's a little intimidating walking across that thing
at night. But uh, you know, onto San Francisco. Uh
now where they're going to play the Johnts, who, by
the way, are they leading the West still or the Padres.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's a it's a half a game, Okay, Podrey's by
half game over the Giants, who the Dodgers by a
half game. Yeah, yeah, so it's it's it's I that's
a heck of a.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
A heck of it. It's probably the best division of baseball, might.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Be, yeah, because the Diamondbacks are good. The Rockies are
god awful, but the Diamondbacks are still good anyway.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So let me let's tell you where the Rangers are. Guys,
we've been talking about. They're fourteen and eleven right now.
They've five and five in their last ten, all because
of road trips, which have not been good for them.
They're winning a lot at home. They've lost their last
two games. They're still in first place, they're just tied
with Seattle right now.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, again, we still think this is a good team.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I do.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
They got to hit, They have to figure out how
to survive a couple of weeks without Corey Seeger or
to days whatever it is. And but you know what
you saw or what you thought you saw on the
money on the offensive side Tuesday night, it kind of fizzled.
It didn't last, and yeah, you gotta it's still an
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ongoing thing.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I like Smith at the lead off, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It's not bad, you know, but you know, you about, oh,
well he's gonna give you a good at bad and
all this stuff, and he is, but he, like, I
don't know, he batted it four times last night, might
have seen like eight pitches.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I mean, yeah, he was swinging, swinging, Yeah, so you know,
but Simeon does that sometimes too. But but simmon, well yeah,
but what these are guys that have made a living
off of ambushing you. If you want to start me
off with a strike, ile ambush Corey Seger does that too.
But Corey works good counts. If he gets behind, he's
always been able to work it back into his favor.
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But uh yeah, in the leadoff spot, you want somebody
that's going to see some pitches, but you also want
a guy that can ambush a fastball or hit a
good pitch to do that. I don't know this whole offense.
I still think this offense is going to be better.
There's just too many good bats. Look at the base
what is it? Look at the baseball card. That's what fastball.
Jock Peterson finally ended that for forty one streak not
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before last with that double that almost got thrown out
at second base. Ye, it was a bad look. I'll
tell you what it would have been. It would have
been perfect for how seasons gone to finally hit a
double and then get thrown out or hit a single
and get thrown out at second uh doing it? But
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you know this team, they're gonna go into sand. That's
gonna be tough this weekend. It's gonna be a tough weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Sure, sure you know. And the you know, the rotation
continues to do its job other than Rocker who's now
on the injured list and uh Baldy pitching tonight. Good
Mali goes tomorrow only on Saturday, and then they got
a decision to make. Now on Sunday, it's either gonna
be Corbyn or Lighter. But all right, you feel good
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about really if you either about Patrick Corban and I
I know on the Daily Show, I was pretty down
on the guy when they signed him. As his first
starts we're approaching, but he's keeping them in games and
and really they should be. Uh, they've won, they've won
two of his three starts. Yep, hey should have won
the first one.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Even so, this pitching staff is not the issue. No, no,
it's not not even even when Rocker has a dud
like he did the other night. This is a team
that could have easily they only he gave up five runs.
That's that's a that's an attainable goal that early. And
if you go down five to nothing in the first
two innings and you get your pitcher out, someone comes
in and does look what Lats did who came in.
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He walked those first two guys, which is horrible, and
I think he would tell you that. But then then
he and him and Bosley came in and did great
shut him down the rest of the game. And I mean,
that keeps you in a game. But you can't get
any offense going at a field that apparently you just
got a bonnet and it'll go four hundred feet.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
See it seems that that's the case. Now, I did
think the weather. I did think the weather, it's cold.
It was cold, and kind of things changed as the
game went on last night. Yeah, I thought there are
a couple of balls that were hit really well both
both ways that that might have carried out the first
day or the second.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Peterson well he kind of that one.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Wasn't that deep. But there's the one off of I
think in the ninth that Leodi went back and caught
or maybe it wasn't, but anyway, there's some there were
some balls that I thought carried well. Simeon hit one
that I thought had a chance and it didn't even
I didn't even get to the warning track. So anyway,
the lost last night, you chalk it up to bad
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offense and just bad luck. And I know there are
a lot of people at least last night. And then
my Twitter mentions that say it's time to get rid
of Leodi.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Really his playing time has already been cut. But the
thing is, it's not time to bring up Heavan Carter yet.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
No, and.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Hit a home run last night, and I think he
has a hit in six of his last seven games
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Good, good, keep going, but he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Played back to back games since early early in this month,
and the last time it was it was a pinch
hit appearance, so you know, they're still trying to figure
this thing out. And yeah, you know he hit the run.
Is on base percentage is like three fifty, which is great,
But yeah, he's not ready, no, and and the Rangers
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are still wrapping their arms around this back issue, so
was he. So it doesn't seem like this is going
to happen quickly. I think if there's a solution, it's
it's it's Harris and and Polar taking over center field
and Leo just kind of doing his best when called upon,
whether so well?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And is there any doubt right now that the best
player on this team is White Langford? Good lord, I
mean no question. You know you look back now and think, God,
leave three other teams.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I mean I would still put Cory Seger up there.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well it's singer, that's yeah. But I'm saying, you drafted
this guy forth and you're still looking back and are
there three teams kicking themselves in the ass right now? Going?
Because he was projected as possible number one overall pick,
as high as number one overall pick, he ends up
sliding to Ford. I think the Ranger just about you know,
fell all over themselves when he fell to them, because
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I think there really was some situations there where if
if Langford was the one guy they wanted. There was
a couple of high school kids remember that draft, that
were pretty highly ranked, and they kind of thought, Okay,
if we get to one of these high school kids,
well maybe we go in and kind of do a
Kmar thing again. When we find somebody, we can sign
him under slot. Because there was nobody they were maddling
in love with Langford, and they just assumed he wouldn't
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be there, right, And then here he comes, and there
he is, and I think everybody, including me, I was like,
there is not a gap. I mean that pit came
in so quick it was like wow. And then look
and it's proven to be true.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, I mean that draft was was very top heavy. Yes,
a lot of high school kill Skens was the first pick,
all right, right, all right, hard to argue with that.
Dylan Cruz who's now with the Nationals. All right, good player. Uh,
you know, those first two guys were teammates in college,
and then it came down to it would it be
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Lankford or Max Clark or Walter Jenkins, right, high school
high school outfielders. Tigers took Clark, and I think the
Rangers probably all fell over when they had the chance
to get White Langford. I mean it just you know,
if they were if they were anticipating. Look, look, if
Langford goes third, what are the Rangers going to do here?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Right? That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I mean they could they could have taken what Jacob
Wilson I think was the sixth pick, the a short stop.
All right, well you're not probably not going to take him,
so you take the prep outfielder and what are they
maybe double a this year?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So it just kind of changed the course of the
thee really, but anyway, uh, he's great, and and the
missing the fly ball aside, you know he let off
with a double that you know they ended up bobbling,
but Langford was going to get the second, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
No matter what. Yeah, because he had gone at that angle, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, busting his tail and running hard, and you know,
it's it's something you don't see. You don't see these guys,
a lot of guys who play as hard as he does.
And then he's been hitting him runs left and right,
he's he's great and it doesn't matter where you put
him in the lineup. He does it. He seems very
unfazed and so well he puts. Yeah, it's great. It's
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kind of exciting to see.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
And yeah, he's got reminscen. He kind of reminds me
in a way of Mike Trout when he was first
coming up. I mean the way the athleticism that he has.
I'll tell you where he puts pressure on people. He
hits a ground ball, he makes them they can't they
can't double pump, they can't do stuff. They gotta get
the ball. He gets down that line fast.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, yeah he does.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And good lord, he gets down that line. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And you know, you know a lot of people are
make the Trout camp age or you know, physically they're
they're similar. Trout's bigger upper half, their legs are both.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, they're both legs of the ships.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
And you know they both play the outfield. Both good
guys too, don't have great arms, aren't great quotes, but
are good guys. Yeah, so there are a lot of similarities.
I I just think that you know, don't don't throw
any comps on him. Just let him do his thing
because it's it's been it's been really good.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
This is the best draft pick the Rangers have had
in a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, I mean, Lighter's great.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Camark I think is gonna end up being great. Uh.
As far as value pick, if Evan Carter gets going
right again, that's another value pick that turns out good.
But they have they have drafted a guy that I
think is a multi year All star potential. Yeah, and
a and a you know, want of that that probably
gets locked up in the next year or two. They're
probably going to try to tie him up with a
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big deal, which why wouldn't you they should. I mean,
there's no question that you try to get that done,
even if for any kind of hometown discount. He's going
to hit a free agency at a good time or
he'll be able to cash in dig hopefully they can
take that away. But you know that that guy right
there is is a star. And you know, on the
Evan Carter thing that we were talking about earlier, I
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still think Evan Carter is going to come up here
and be a major contributor. But why in the world
I think right now, I think everybody this may be
great for Evan Carter. Sometimes you need to fail to
get things right. You know what I mean. It's in society.
I've said it all along. Some of the best, the
best things that happened to people are failures. He's struggling,
had a back issue, he struggled when he full time.
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This guy is a good player. That's just got to
get right. I think he got humbled. He's in the
minor leagues and now all of a sudden, when you're
starting to see him play every day. You said he's
gotten hits in six straight games, hadn't played back to back.
It's all right, realize put your feet where. He always
used to say this. I think his feet weren't where
they are. I think he thought he was going to
make the big league team and he didn't. But now
you've got to say, Okay, my feet are here. This
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is where I need to do it. Because I that
is a guy I still think is going to contribute
at a big league level.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well yeah, there's just I think he will too. You know.
It is weird though, that they're not talking more about
they being the Rangers, about where things are right, you know,
and Evan is it's a it's a sensitive subject with Evan.
He does not like to talk about his injury and
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what the issue was, but it sounds very complicated. And
it still sounds complicated, you know. I there was a
time last year where he's like, as the team said anything,
have they said what it is? And all this. I
was like, well, excuse me, there's the hippo law and
so they always teams will sometimes hide behind that. I
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explained to him, I said, Evan, it's your medical information.
You're fine to do with it's what you want. And
he wouldn't. He didn't say anything, So and that's fine,
all right. If if I had something going on, I
don't know that I'd be sitting here talking about it either. Sure,
but it is weird, you know. The way the way
it's been explained to me is it's an unprecedented situation
that a lot of people have never dealt with. And
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you know, I think the unprecedented part is that he's
so talented and so good. They have to get this
one right. So calling him up today to replace Leodi
Teparis would be a knee jerk thing, yep, and not
the best thing for the player or the club. So
stay down there. If the Rangers are really have the
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red ass for for the various Dustin Harris is there.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
You can play against against right handers, You've got You've
got old Kevin Pillar who keeps plugging along and he
can he can play really against both sides. But he's
on the team to face left handers. So uh, that's
that's that, you know, the bullpen. I don't have a
problem with with anything that happened last night other than
the walk, you know, walking, the walking the guy who's
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bat in one sixty seven. Yeah, that that kind of
was a huge thing in that inning. But you know,
when you don't when you don't score, there's no margin
for error, no, and you it's unrealistic to say, oh,
don't where our bullpen's going to go out and shut
these guys down. They're not.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
It's not every not it's just not gonna happen every night.
So it's better to have a cushion. You know. A
safe situation is three runs in below heading into the
inning or I believe if the if the tying runs
on deck or something like that. It's something weird, but
so but you would rather be in that situation that
if you do walk that guy because you missed that
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outside slider of just barely missed on the outside, which
was good at bat for good take a good take
to to get there. You're okay, you regroup it now,
you're you clinch a little bit. You can't let this
guy get anywhere. He's a guy that can steal bases.
And their rangers aren't throwing out anybody.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, they've gotten better, but yeah, to your point, you
have to Yeah, you have to clench it up. You
have to hold you can't have to account for something
else and maybe change your slid step, speed up your
delivery exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
It changes the game runnerund base changes it for everybody.
And you know there's a couple of guys that a
runner gets on base and you see them go to
a different level. Of all these one he can come out.
It doesn't face him. He gets he gets more focused.
The Grom can do that. The Grom can all of
a sudden that strikeout comes back into play when he
gets somebody tied. Because he calls it what did he
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call it? Uh pressure? He talked to us in Arizona.
He's talking about there's different innings. You got innings that
are unstressful, stressful innings and unstressful innings. It's a real thing.
Everything's stressful when you got guys on the out there
on the bases. When there's no one on base, it's different.
And you know, like he said the other day, and
it was it was interesting what he said. He was
landing right the other day and that fastball was up
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to ninety eight ninety nine, and he wasn't putting any
more pressure on his arm. It's just he's landing right.
That's coming out different. It just feels more fluid coming out,
and it was up in a tick. You know.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
He's definitely mean. He's probably not happy with.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
He's working it with where he's at because he's a perfectionist.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But and it's pretty good right now. It's really good.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
He's never afraid to throw that slider.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
You know. And I think a lot of the time
he makes hitters guess yeah uh. And I thought the
I can't remember who it was, Maybe it was Seth
Brown the second ad bat where he took a fastball
down the middle after like three straight sliders. I think
he was expecting a slider and was guessing because when
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the groom's on the fastball and the slider, look the
same about fifty seven feet. Yeah, and then and then
you're and then you're screwed. So you have to some
guys have to guess and seem a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And so anyway, hey, give give the umpt give the
upload of props. There were some of those balls, much
not were low, but he called it the whole game.
He called that pitch.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, and that inconsistent on the outside.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, but he called that low pitch. And the few
of the A's were probably upset, but I'm telling you
called that same damn pitch the whole game. Yeah. And
the A's never put the ball. They never none of
their pitchers were thrown on the ball to that low spot,
which apparently he likes. For whatever reason, they kept coming
in high because he was calling high too. He was
calling some that were out of his own high.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I mean it's also game plan. I mean, you know
you're gonna you're gonna throw, yeah, a gold scarcia up.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
You know, that's just he chases. Yeah, he's gonna chase
it if he sees anything.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Here, and you want to also throw the slider on
the outside. But it's an interesting talk. The you know,
now it's two different sets of hitters and two different
game plans and right, you know, does an umpire get
settled in and do they get in the comfort zone?
And like, yeah, I like And that's why you say,
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oh you heard, you heard Mike Basset in the first inning.
You know you hope it's you hope it's the same
for both teams. Yeah, it's like and it was for
the most part.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
But yeah, look, the umpire was not good. He was
calling balls that were that were not they were out
of strike zone. But when you consistently call the same
pitch that a strike zone, you can't really complain about
that because he's called it all that long. You can
be yeah, you can't. You can be mad and go
you need to make sure that pitch is up more
because that's a low pitch. But by the time you're
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coming up the second third time, you got to realize, Okay,
he's calling that damn low pitch. Yeah, I've got to
swing at it. You know, That's the way I was taught.
We were all taught that way. You know, you got
to shorten up and expand your why you're superdrack zone
a little bit with two strikes or whatever you've got. Anyway,
you want to get maxed.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
It on him. Yeah, real quick thought. The umpire was
micheil Kinsky last night, and he's the umpire who famously
during spring training he'd been challenged like three times and
each time he'd been wrong, and then he finally got
one right and when he announced it, he said, the
call is surprisingly correct. So but just kind of looking
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at the ump scorecard. That's what I'm doing here on
my phone, looking at the umpire score cards on Twitter.
Accuracy for him last night, which isn't particularly good, you know,
but and and and however they come up with this formula.
It favored the A's by point three. So there you go.
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Better better start playing about him. But yeah, we can
go ahead and get maxon on.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I just you know that that's funny. Though I didn't
see it, is one of the times he was must
have been doing so he must have been that. You
know what that is? That is people I like that
can take humor in themselves and go, okay, well hey
I got this one right, you know, uh self deprecation
is always funny to me, So that that's good for him.
All right, y'all, Maxton Martin is going to join us
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right up. All right, guys and joining us right now
from Hickory in North Carolina. It's Texas Rangers outfielder Maxton
Martin Max. What's going on, Bud?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Nothing not, It's just to be here.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Hey, do you wait a minute? Do you go by
Maxton or do you go by Max?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I mean whatever you want to call me name, My
parents use my full name, but like you know, whatever
you want to.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Call if you ever ever, if you ever, if you've
ever seen coming to America. There's a scene where they're
in the barbershop and they're talking about Muhammad Ali and
Cassius was Cassius Clay, And one of them says, is, Mama,
call him Clay. I'm gonna call him Clay. Your mom
is calling you Max, and I'm calling you Maxton. So
a good good game last night, three for five, A
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good a good win for for the team. You're You're
over three hundred with the batan average. How seems like
a good start?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You happy?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, I'm pretty happy about that. And I'm just trying
to stay consistent every day.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So how how does a young man like yourself stay consistent?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I mean, I think it's uh in what I do
every day before the games.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I think that's a big part of it, just my.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Routines and and how I'm taking care of everything.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I think that's a big part of what has kept
me through this season.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
What uh, I mean, it's something everybody says their routine,
their routine. Uh, and you're you're playing a lot more
than you've ever played. So is it how much of
a grind is to make yourself do everything the same
way every day?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, it's definitely. It's definitely a challenge.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I mean, the biggest thing is, uh, just doing the
little things, like the fundamentals.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
It's it's very easy to just want to go in
the cage and just hit homers as far as I can,
but that's not going to show up in the game.
So it's very important to you know, just keep the
fundamentals and keep it, keep it simple, and then go
in the game and just you know, just keep it simple,
un hit.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
So yeah, yeah, it's what's a typical day look like
for you? Looks like you're obviously in your your housing
in in Hickory right now. What time do you get
to like park and start getting to work.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, So it depends on the day. I mean, for
the most part.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Like yesterday, we had like early work hitting, so we
were there at around like eleven thirty eleven forty five.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
But that's not an everyday thing. Yeah, normally we'll be
at the field, like first thing will be like one,
like one fifteen to one.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Thirty, So I'll show up maybe hour hour and a
half for that, you know, and just get everything dialed in,
and then we just practiced before the game, VP, defense,
you know, basic baseball stuff, and then we go for
the game and then that's it.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
All right, So a double last night, You've you've homeward
already this season?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Power comes? I guess with age, are you starting to
see some more power?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I mean I feel like.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
To start the season, I was kind of more just
focusing on barrels and just like seeing it, seeing pitch location,
pitch shapes, all that, and just working on just just
getting hits, getting I guess, just just showing up every game.
And so I think the power will come. And I think,
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you know, home runs are just accidents, so uh well
we'll just see from then on.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Those are pretty good accidents.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Okay, and then and then it looks like you're playing
pretty much only in the outfield right now. But you
do have some first base background, I guess, I guess
uh uh abblo Guerrero over there is getting some first
base time. Where where are you in in in the field?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
So yeah, last year I played first and outfield. I
split it about fifty to fifty, I think, or something
like that. Honestly, like, I don't really care where I play.
I'm comfortable wherever they need me. But left fields where
I've been playing for this season, I really like it there.
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So as of right now, I would say left field,
pretty comfortable with that. You know, we got we have
a lot of first basements on the team, so you know,
whatever keeps me in the lineup.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I could have I could have sworn that I saw
you playing first during one of those inner squad games
that they had during spring training, and I was like
a boy, I remember him drafted as an outfielder, but yeah,
he played some first So important thing is be versatile. Right,
do you think you could go to right field in
the center field if called upon?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, for sure, I think I could.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I mean I feel like left and right are virtually
the same exact same exact position center field, same thing first,
you know, wherever I'll play, I'll play wherever they need
me to play.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So yeah, yeah, I got youa uh, I know you're
you're you're still nineteen or another couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Are you are?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Is this is this how you envisioned it when you signed?
I mean, it's it's a long path to the major
leagues unless you're you know why at Langford? But do
you he was out of college, right, Is this kind
of how you envisioned things going at this point? The
grind as they call it.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
For the most part.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah, because my brother played professional baseball, so he kind of.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Gave me a ton of information on what it's going
to be, like, what to do, what not to do.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
So that was a big help in that having him
just kind of paved the way for me. And and yeah,
I mean I feel like that was a big advantage
that I had. But you know, I got to learn
firsthand on some things and how the body feels and
you know, how how the mind feels and the failures
and all that.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
So I've learned a lot over the past two seasons
so far. And yeah, the goal is just to keep
it going and just keep keep working, keep getting better.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
So, yeah, I think I think the cool thing that
maybe goes overlooked is that you're with the same group
of guys pretty much the whole way. I mean, and
it starts with the draft. You know, you're drafting twenty
twenty three, but there are a lot of guys from
that twenty three draft that you've been with your whole
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professional career. So, like, who are you closest to? Who
are your droves that you maybe you live with them.
I don't know who come closest to.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
M as of right now.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I would probably say Pablo because last year we played
all year together, so and we both worked first base
like every single day.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, I would say I was pretty close with him.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Chandler Pollard I'm pretty close with because he was I
played with him twenty twenty three. Yeah, and he's around
the same age as me. And then I mean a
lot of the guys I'm close with, i'm the team.
I mean, we're all good friends. You know, there's no
no problems with the team. Yeah, I would say probably
those two would be the two closest uh Okay, over
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the past couple of seasons that I've played with.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah, you're you're nineteen. But what Luke Savage is on
your team?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
And yeah, yeah him too, Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, he's from he's from our area. And but he
went to TCU where I went to college. But he's
he's like four or five years older than you.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I mean, yeah, it's a big.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Is It is funny how a lot of the guys
are likely I'm good friends with them, and then they're like, oh,
you're you're nineteen, I'm twenty three or whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Like, that's all right, that's all right. Age is just
a number, right.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Well, he should be he should be a sophomore in college.
If you think about it. I've got a son your age.
He'll be twenty this summer. He's a sophomore in college.
So you know, that's that's where you should be right now.
But you're you're a professional athlete now, so yeah, the
age difference. You know, in college, you're playing with guys
right around your age, somewhere from eighteen to probably twenty
one somewhere in there. Now you've got some twenty three
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twenty four year olds that are you'll be sharing a
And why do you get up higher in the levels
you'll be there'll be some guys a lot older and
maybe a few that are a lot younger.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah eighty advice and income tax stuff, you know, all
these old old person things that happened. Yeah, Okay, So
it seems like the popular thing to say in the
in the organization is just be where my feet are,
don't look too far ahead, don't get too excited about
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I know it's early in the season. What do you
What goals do you lay out for yourself at the
start of a year. Goals? Maybe did you set up
for this year?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah? So, I think a big thing I learned last
year was.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
When I set my goals, it was more like statistical goals,
and I thought that that was like the key was
like focusing on average home runs all that. But I
think this year my goals were just more mental and
like physical goals, like I just want to show up
good attitude, just get better every single day, and just
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just be able to fail and then just like keep
going and keep going because baseball is a game of failure.
And yeah, it happens a lot more in pro ball
than it did in high school for me. So I
had to learn that and so and then also keep
my body healthy. That's a big goal for me the
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season because it's a long season.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
How much like how much how much weight have you
changed have you gained or how have you changed physically
since you walked out of high school and into the problem.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
So I think when I graduated, I was around maybe
two like two oh five, maybe like two oh two
around there, and then last year or in twenty twenty, yeah,
twenty four, I was I kind of bulked up and
I was around like two ten to twelve, okay, but
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I didn't really like how I felt. I felt like
my body was like it was almost too much size.
So then I cut back down this year and I'm
around two o five right now, and yeah, it feels
a lot better than I did last year.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
So it's probably a different two oh five though maybe
reader more lean, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
On the goal thing, that's that's great. And you know,
you you can you can control how you practice, you
can control of your effort level, and uh, you know,
once it leaves the bat, you really don't have any
control on where it goes and what what the outcome
is going to be. But if you can, if you
keep finding barrels, then good things are going to happen.
I always asked the gold question. I guess because I've
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been covering this team for a long time, and we
had when the Rangers had Josh Hamilton on the team,
you were you were, you were two when they got him.
He always set the goal of thirty home runs, one
hundred RBIs and a three hundred average, and uh, you know,
he was and just this elite talent who was able
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to do that stuff. But it always seemed like you
could get caught in trying to chase those numbers and
then make bad things happen. So I commend you on
your approach here this year. Yeah don't don't don't say
I'm going to hit forty homers, you know, because end
up with fourteen. So yeah, yeah, all right, So our
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the way our show works is that I asked those
baseball kind of questions and John kind of gets into
Max and Martin h But I will have plenty of
in a row. So you've not heard the last of media, John,
It's time for you, all right.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
So all right, maxon you're out of you went. You
went to South Ridge High School ride in Kenniwick, Washington, Right, Yep, Okay,
did you play any other sports? I mean, you're a
baseball player. Anything else you played?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah? So I played. Growing up, I played baseball, basketball,
and football.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
Baseball was always the number one, always the my My
dad played baseball at Texas State and UH in college,
and then my grandpa played UH and with the Angels
in the minor leagues and another team, so it's always been.
We've always been a baseball family. Even my sister played softball.
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My brother plays baseball, so it's always in baseball. But
I played baseball, football, basketball all the way till freshman
year of high school, and I had to drop basketball
because it was just too much, like overlap in between
the seasons.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
So I had to just focused on baseball and football.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
What'd you play in football?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I played quarterback?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Quarterback?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Wow? All right?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
What kind of offense are we are we running here?
Speaker 4 (42:17):
I mean it changed over the four years, but my
last two seasons we ran a wing tea offense.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Oh no kidding, Yeah, it'll toughen you.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Up, that's it. Let me ask you this. Where you're
recruited at all in football?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I mean not really, No, I didn't. I didn't. I
wasn't as good as football as it was baseball. But yeah,
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
I didn't take it as serious as I did baseball,
So I wasn't really recruited.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
No, I did.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I did. I did look at the map because, uh,
you know, when you think, oh, he's from Washington, there's
so many cities around Seattle that you don't really know about.
So I looked at the map, and you are much
closer to to Pendleton, Organ then you are Seattle. It's
it's not even close. H So, and you were talking
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about how you don't get as much rain. What is
the closest big town you.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
I mean, probably Portland, I would assume. I think Portland's
like three it's like three hours away. Seattle is like
four hours away from where I'm from. Yeah, yeah, I
would probably say, well, I guess this holeman counts as
a big.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
They got a big college there, they got to college.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, I mean probably Portland would be my guess on that.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Okay, okay, Well, speaking of Portland, have you ever seen
the documentary The Battered Bastards of Baseball.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
I've heard of it, but I don't think i've seen it.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Now. It's on Netflix. You ought to watch it. It's
about the Portland Mavericks. I think they were called anyway,
it's really good. You'll the eleve it. They used to
be a minor league team there that was independent ball. Okay,
so you now you were committed, you were going to
go to the University of Oregon out of high school.
Do you have any other schools that you were looking
at or you thought of or did you commit earlier?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, So they offered me my sophomore summer, it was
them I got.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
I offered from Gonzaga and you dub and so.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
I was looking at those three schools. I went on
a visit to you Dubbed. I really liked it there,
but I think once I went to or once I
visited Oregon, I was like, yeah, I think I think
I want to go here. So I chose Orgon out
of those three. I talked to some other schools, but
those are my main three offers.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
So yeah, okay, now you ended up So you didn't
you ended up not going. You got drafted in the
eleventh round of twenty twenty three. So I want to
talk about that in just a second. But the one
thing I always ask about guys that get drafted. Now
you see these drafts that NFL drafts going on right now,
but even in the MLB draft, and I was at
the draft last year here in the Metroplex. There are
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guys that show up wherever the draft is because they're
obviously going to be first round talent. They're going there.
You probably weren't wherever the draft was. You had committed
to Oregon. Where were you and you got drafted? And
how did you find out you'd been drafted?
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Let me think that was? Oh, yeah, so okay, I
was in I was actually at my house.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
So at that time, I was playing for the Walla
wall Suites, which is a West Coast League summer team.
In case I didn't get drafted or didn't sign, I
would have just kept playing for them and then went
to Oregon.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
So I was actually at home.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
And it was actually kind of cool because my brother
got the All Star break off because like the minor
leagues don't play, so he came home. He like surprised
me at home. It was kind of cool. And then yeah,
so I was at home and we were watching the
draft tracker. We had it on the TV, had it
on my dad's laptop.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
And then.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
My agent called me and was like yeah, the the
Rangers are gonna take you right here for this next pick,
like be ready, and I was like okay, and then
we all celebrated and it was cool.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
It was a cool moment.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
So yeah, now, yeah, you go ahead.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, so you didn't sign though till the the cutoff day.
How close was it that that you almost went to college?
It was?
Speaker 3 (46:33):
It was pretty close the whole it was.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
It was a long situation that that happened kind of
between the team and my agent and me, and yeah,
there was a lot of a lot of things going on,
and so I didn't really know if if it was
worth it. But big thing for me is I just
wanted to I just wanted to play baseball and and
and work on that every day. And so I ended
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up just being like this is what I want to do,
and I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna take this signing
and and not look back.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
So that's it was. It was really close to me
going to college.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
But yeah, yeah did who who was? Who was the
area of scout? Who who it was? Oh yeah, well
sure he gets all those.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Guys, the Pacific Northwest guys.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, okay, so yeah you're not looking back?
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Good deal.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Glad to hear it.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Okay, all right, so let's get into some of your
favorite stuff now. So you so you, yeah, some of
your favorite stuff to do? What what is your favorite food? Now? Everybody, look,
you guys are on special diets. You do all of that.
But if you're in a hurry and you've got to
run through a fast food joint somewhere and do that,
what's what's the place Max is going to? He's gonna
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what are you gonna go get?
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Probably probably Chapola. Honestly, I like.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
The popular answer. Yeah, do you get a burrito or
a bowl?
Speaker 3 (48:05):
I got a bowl?
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, okay, what's in the bowl? What do you usually get?
Speaker 4 (48:09):
I normally do brown rice, stay o case though cheese
and like lettuce and corn and then mix it up
and that's that's that's my order.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
So you get a double order too, I mean you guys,
you guys tell some.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Calories, not not normally but maybe sometimes.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah, you know the uh, the very underrated I'm glad
you do it is the scoop of caseo.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yes, I do that.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It really makes the burrito bowl. Yeah, dude, but you
then you get the then you get the cheese on top.
Of that. I don't do that. That's a lot of
a lot of dairy.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
This guy's got calories, man, he's working it on.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
I need the I need the calories and.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Protein absolutely man. Okay, So now let's talk about your
favorite kind of food. What is your favorite kind of
food or type of food? Are you an Italian guy?
You like steaks? You're like pizza, seafood?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
What do you like?
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (49:03):
I mean in my house, I mean we eat a lot.
So you know, I don't really have a favorite, but
I will say a big thing that off Steason Me
and my brother were doing was eating lots of steak
and uh like steak and potatoes and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
We do that a lot.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
So what cut? You like a ribbi or you like
a t bone? What is your favorite? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I like ribbi or like New York strips? Pretty good?
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Yeah, I mean anything anything, any type of steak. Honestly,
I mean I'll eat whatever.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Okay, So now this is one of my favorite ones too.
Home cooked meal. What is your favorite home cooked meal?
And who cooks it? Does Grandma gets you something? Does
mom cook something you love? It's a special day at
your birthday, something you get to pick the meal. One
of them is gonna make it. Who's making what for
you for your favorite home cooked meal?
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Probably my mom she cooks.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
She cooks on my nails growing up. And let me think, Oh,
my mom makes uh taco taco cast role and it's like, uh,
it's like almost like lasagna, but it's it's like taco flavored.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
It's pretty good. So she makes that, and I love that.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
So and she's got she's got three ball players, including
your sister apparently, so y'all. Probably it's fice to make
like four, hell four loads of it to get everybody fed.
You guys can shovel it in, I imagine.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yep. Yeah, So is your sister older or younger older?
Speaker 3 (50:37):
I'm the youngest in the family.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
So, oh, the baby's gonna watch this, and my baby
he's getting My baby's getting interviewed, all right, So I
ask this spare time? What are you doing your do
you hunt, do you fish? Do you play golf? Do
you do video games? What do you like to do
in your spare time when you're not playing baseball? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:53):
So I mean not much, not much spare time.
Speaker 4 (50:58):
I mean there's there's some time after before the game,
but for the most parts, just baseball, baseball, baseball. But
in the off season, me and my brother and my
dad we all lift and and that's basically like all
we do. We we lift, and I mean I'll play
some video games at home or hang out with my
friends or or hang out my family. But for the
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most part, like I spend a lot of my time
at home lifting because my dad's a bodybuilder, So we
lift a lot and a lot. So that's that's basically
all I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
That's crazy. Wow, those dudes have strict diets. Yes, mm hmm,
that's that's crazy stuff.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Well, what about mom? Was she an athlete?
Speaker 3 (51:45):
She likes to say she was, but she she's a nurse.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
But no, I mean she she played sports in high school,
but yeah, she's she's a nurse.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
So now where did they meet? Are your parents from
up there or were? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (52:00):
Yeah, so my mom's from Richland and my dad's from Kenneway.
They met I think in Tri Cities.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, okay, all right, all right, So that's that's pretty
interesting though the baseball stuff. Your dad went to Texas
State and how did he get down there?
Speaker 1 (52:21):
Yeah? How did he end up down there? In San Marcos?
Speaker 3 (52:24):
Yeah. I mean you probably have to ask him how
it all went. But uh, he went to.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Els uh and played there, and then I think got
seen there and and I don't know how an offer
or something and got down there in Texas State, and yeah,
I played there.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
I mean, they're they're they're pretty good.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, they're pretty good baseball right now, Paul from there.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
Yeah, guys, they'll they'll, they'll win one of those. I
think they beat Texas earlier.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
They did, they did beat Texas those midweek games.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
And their football team made a Bowl this year, so
they're kind of I mean, it's not a small school.
They have twenty thousand kids ago there. Apparently it's a
huge party school.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, so you're dead. I had some fun there. Yeah, yeah, right,
a couple of years, all right. So we always end
with a good question that I'm gonna just second, but
I gotta ask this, if you grew up up there, now,
did you grow up a Mariners fan?
Speaker 3 (53:24):
I mean, yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
I was a big, big Mike Trout guy growing up
big Angels. But when I was younger, we did go
to the games then, So, and that's honestly, like some
of the only baseball games I went to growing up
where the Mariners games and so like, I was.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
A big Echiro fan growing up.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, so yeah I was.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
That was a bit. I was a Seattle fan growing up.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Hey how many how many homelesses did you hit in
high school?
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (53:55):
Through like through the school season or through like summer
school to school for the school.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
My senior year I hit five.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
Junior year I only hit two, and then I didn't
have a sophomore year because of.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
And then freshman year I didn't have that either. I
got canceled too.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
So yeah, yeah it.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
Was it was like two and then five.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
I got walked a lot my senior year though, because
a lot of them didn't want to pitch to me.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
So but yeah, I had five.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
That's what happens with good high school players.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Yeah, they don't see a lot and it makes it.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Hard to scout because they go to watch a guy,
they're like, hey, this guy's good, and he may get
like that's why they got one good pitch to hit
the whole game.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, that's why of the summer balls usually where you
get you get scouted to When did you kind of
know you had a chance to get drafted? Were you
junior year. Senior year, you had some scouts talking to you.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
I mean I think.
Speaker 4 (54:54):
My brother when he got drafted, it was kind of like, okay,
like this is this is a possibility for me too,
and and I kind of my dad kind of instilled
down me like that I could do this too, Like
if I want to be like him, I got to
put the work in and all that. So I'll probably
say like I really hit my growth burt and started
to kind of.
Speaker 3 (55:13):
Get bigger and stronger and hit the ball harder.
Speaker 4 (55:15):
Around my sophomore season, I had a really good summer.
That was when I got all my offers and stuff.
So after that it was like okay, like now I
got the d one offers, Like let's just keep it
going and let's try to see what I can do
the next level.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
So yeah, all right, last question.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
We're gonna get you out of here, Max, So this
will be out later today. I followed you on some socials,
so I'll try to tag you with it and get
them out there to the family for you so they
can see it. We asked a lot of these guys,
what is something that nobody knows about? MAXI and Martin,
let me give you some answers that we got from
some other people. Your your general manager and president of
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baseball operations, Chris Young. He's a true crime junkie, he said.
When he gets spare times, he likes to watch true
crime dot documentary stuff like that. We've had some guys
tell us they, you know, got their finger cut off
when they were five years old and attached things that
happen nobody thinks about. What is something that nobody knows about?
Speaker 4 (56:11):
Max de Martin, Oh Man, I mean, I'll say, I'll say, uh,
maybe something I don't really talk about but that I'm
very interested in is like I really am embought in
on like learning about psychology and like how like humans work.
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I think it's very interesting how kind of like we
process things and how we uh.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
Like just how we react to things.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
I think it's really interesting how like the brain naturally
works for us. So that's something I don't really talk
about that much, but I'm very interested on that.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
So the read some books on it and stuff.
Speaker 3 (56:51):
Yeah, I always see stuff on like social media. I'll
watch videos on it, and yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
I'll say this, that's the first time we've ever had
anybody give a eyebrow answer.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
No kidding, Yeah, don't be ashamed of that.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Follow that baby, go hey, and and in pro sports,
it's probably an important aspect of pro sports. Yeah, it's psychology.
We we had on Hannah Houseman, whose stage she came
on with this couple of years she did the sports
psychologist part of the big league team. She's moved on now.
She got married and her husband's a football coach, and
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so they moved on. And I think she just had
a kid last year. So anyway, next and listen, we
know that your schedule is very busy. We really appreciate
you coming on. We'll get you on another time. We
usually get guys on multiple times, and we'll run into
it spring training next year. We're gonna come find you
and say and do that.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Hopefully before then.
Speaker 1 (57:45):
Yeah, hopefully before then, especially towards the end of the year.
We try to get some guys back on when the
if we can, but we really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (57:52):
Jeffany An, Oh, yeah, good talking to you. Good meet,
and stick with that routine and keep it up.
Speaker 3 (57:59):
Yep, thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
You got it. That's Maxton Martin.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Right after this, we're gonna go down the bus leagues.
All right, A big thanks to Maxton Martin for joining us.
Now we're gonna down in the bus leagues, which no
minor league recap today, guys, because Jeff and I are
gonna cover it. We start out at Triple A Round Rock.
We're gonna go all the way down to the Low Way.
Those are the only teams playing right now. We start
out with the Round Rock Express. They're ten and eight
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right now. They're in first place. They are five and five.
I'm sorry, I'm looking the wrong one. Round Rock is
fourteen and ten. They're eight and two in their last ten. Uh.
They are fourteen to ten. They're in second place, and
they have won five in a row. They're hot, they're rolling.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
Uh yeah, and they're winning games a variety of ways.
I think they had a walk off last night. But
you know, some of these veteran minor leaguers are doing
their thing. Yeah, you know, Blaine Cram is our guy,
and Justin Fosku is doing very Howver's been doing been
doing okay?
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Yeah lately lately.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
Freeman has been been good, just you know, kind of
what you'd expect from this. John Ornellis had a couple
of big hits last night that he's not he's not
doing great. Hopefully he's finding his groove. And and then
you know, we we got to keep an eye on
Zeke Duran now he's starting home run less. He started
off pretty well for for them. Now that he's down
there getting his bats, that's important. And then of course
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we talked about Evan Carter at the start again. He's
manning one to eighty, hasn't played back to back days,
only played three days last week. So well, I think
take your time with that one.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Well, the worst is to come out of round rock
right now, it's the Mark Church info. Did he get hurt?
Speaker 2 (59:40):
Well, I don't know, did he. Toyota was on the
injured list with some shoulder fatigue, but that sounds like
a just a cautionary thing.
Speaker 1 (59:48):
And I think I just saw where Mark Church had
an oblique kissue.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
Oh well, that's that's kind of what got him last year.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah, and something came came in and he I just
saw it like yes day of the day before.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Okay, well, you know I missed that one. I'm not
with the club, so.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
We'll watch that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
That's unfortunate. If that's the case, let's see here, Let's see,
let's I got the interwebs here and see what what
we got? Different injuries? Mark Church oblique injury down seven
to ten days. Okay, well there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Yeah, so seven to ten. Let's hope it really is
only seven to ten. It make it could be a
thing too where he just came off and went like this,
and you know, and they're just like, hey, that's a
too good an arm. You know what your obliquees hurt.
Sit down, Let's let's stretch you out a couple of
days and get used to it. Let's go down to Frisco.
FRISTC goes in first place, thirteen and five. Another hot team.
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They're seven and three, they've won four in a row. Look,
I said this on the minor league Greekcap. I'm gonna
say it again. Carlos Cordoza. That guy's needs a big
league job on a staff something. Yeah, that is a
good guy.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
He goes about it the right way. We've had him
on multile time, so we're not just kissing his butt
here though.
Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Well he helps you out when we have to get something.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
But I mean, he's just he's just great. He's really
all in here. He understands the importance for the players
to get in front of the media. But more than that,
I mean he makes them work. You know, they will
have days for each home stand where they go through
this pretty strenuous basics, fundamental work, and that's how this
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team wins. They place. They play really solid baseball and
they're pretty good too. But yeah, you know, they have
some injury news with with Winston Santos, so their opening
day starter. He's going to be down eight to ten weeks.
He's got a stress reaction in his back. A stress
reaction is basically it's not armed, but that could lead
and I think it's probably similar to what Cody Bradford
(01:01:47):
had last year. You know, he had the back thing
and they're like, oh, it'll just be you know, a
couple of weeks, and then they found a little a
little stress fracture. So that's too bad because of course
he was their opening day starter and he's too Yeah,
so that's that's too bad. But he is on the
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forty man.
Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Well there's your that's a guy that can move to
the sixty.
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Day and tooto, Well, you don't want to move them
to the sixty day because then you've got to promote him,
starts his clock, You got to promote him, activate him,
and then sixty damn. That's why, uh Corneel is not
on the sixty day. They don't want to start the
clocks and they don't want to pay him.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
So oh yeah, I'm just talking about if you had
to make it eat that one. Yeah, well there's there's
plenty of if you.
Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Get super desperate then yeah maybe.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Yeah, but well there are plenty of guys that could
be a cause for a DFA too. If you need
a forty ye spot. There's a few that are hanging
on and one that's hanging on somehow, and it's back
in the big leagues.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Actually, yeah, Garb, you know, you know you can give
him some length. Winn really deserves a call up.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Very very good. Have you seen it? Oh my god.
He hadn't be scored on yet.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
It's been really good.
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
He's only walked five guys all year.
Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Robert or forty man guys who deserve it. Yeap deserve it.
I think Cole can probably go get multiple outs better
than Robert can. But he's he's he's definitely knocking on
the door.
Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
He's missing backs, he's striking out. Guy.
Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
That's that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yeah, and he's not walking a lot of guys, which
was a problem he was having. Yeah, he has figured
something out up there. And this is the number one
the number one draft picking what's seventeen.
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Or eighteen eighteen, fifteenth overall.
Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Fifteenth overall and then and so the money was invested
in and now you're starting to see what he was
because remember he just flew through the system just amazingly
got the triple A and that's where the struggle started.
Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yeah, yeah, and that's why you know, he was a
starter up until that point.
Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
But he's coming out multiple innings every game, at least two.
Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yeah, that's good. That's that's very good. Anyway, Frisco, we
are talking about first.
Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Oh yeah, sorry, then we go back to all right,
we're talking talking bust leagues. Guys.
Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Walcott is is holding his own.
Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
His on base person is damn near four hundred. Yep,
So that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
He has not overwhelmed a double A.
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
He is. He is doing just fine. But they're getting
contributions from a lot of guys there.
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Soon has really starting to pick out to see.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
As soon Cam colly has been in the mix. Abby
Ortez has been in the mix there. They're still their
batty averages aren't great. Josh Hatcher has been fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
He's been the star of that day.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
We had him on the show last year. He's repeating there,
and he's probably Cold Drake has been probably earned a
promotion you would think at some point here, but yeah,
Cold Drake has been terrific the last two times out.
You know, our guy Mitch Bratt solid Josh Steven had
a real nice outing last night. So, uh, you know,
these guys are starting to move in the right direction.
(01:04:47):
And of course my guy Robbie Alstrom, who should be
in Triple A, well there you go.
Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
But I got promoted yesterday. I believe, in fact, he
pitched one third of an inning last night.
Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
I told you it'd be soon, and.
Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Yeah, well he was just block. They wanted to get
him a place where they could use him.
Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
You need, you need some whether it be injury or
some guys getting taken their outs, or you know, I
think these minor league rosters will be changing here in
about a couple of weeks because, uh, other roster things
will happen, and uh, there'll be some decisions made on
guys and so that's fantastic. So where he finished last year,
(01:05:23):
where he should open this year. Yep, it's a malone
one step, one step closer to Mike Maddox who loves him. So, yep,
we're gonna keep watching Robbie Alstrom.
Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Yep. Now let's go down to Hub City. Hub City
is ten and eight. They're in first place. That's who
I was reading while to go by the way five
and five in their last ten they had they lost
last night. A couple of guys to talk about there
that we really the guy that I've kind of been following,
who's who's leading the team and hitting right now? And
the seven to fifty one ops is Dylan Drowling. He's
the guy from Tennessee they drafted second round last year. Yeah,
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he's he's showing why he was, you know, an upper
upper round pick. Looks comfortable to play. He has one
home run, but he's hitting a few doubles there. Good
player in college.
Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Well you can tell you can kind of look at uh,
you know, the walks to strike out ratio is pretty
pretty good. So he's he's got an advanced approach the
same thing with Casey Cook, who was the third rounder
who went to North Carolina. So you know they're he's
not hitting very well, but he is having you know,
he's not striking out a lot. It doesn't look like
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he's overmatched. Looks like a bad luck thing. Keith Jones
another college guy, ye Can Can Can working at bad
and Malcolm Wore was doing that until he broke his
darn finger. So yeah, pretty good group there. Anthony Gudieris
had had the start hit yesterday.
Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
I believe he's one player than not a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
He's starting to trend the right way.
Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
And let me tell you the guy on the pigeon
sign and he was the out at finscher Maker, remember
how he always does as little. This is the guy
to watch you maybe not getting all the that guy
the other night was spectacular. Yeah, uh the other night,
and that is a guy that is living up to
the finster Maker hype. There you go. Remember last year
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he talked about uh Rosario and out of nowhere here
comes this guy, David David Leo. Same thing.
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Yeah. Unfortunate news though. Paul Bonzani, who we just had
on the show elbow inflammation and he's no, he's awaiting
the results of that so, uh, that's generally not a
good thing, so uh keep her keep our fingers crossed
for him, as he's a good dude, local, real guy,
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real good kid. Was trending the right way.
Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Absolutely why we had him on. Look that we don't
pull these names out of hats when we start looking
at some guys that are performing and they get talked
about Maxton Martin just talked about by suddenly some of
the brass. They're looking at guys that that that they
see potential big league stuff in sure, and that's why,
that's why why they Hey you had to talk ab
out of going to Oregon, you know, to go there.
(01:08:05):
So hey, David don El doing good. Driveling's doing good. Uh,
Hub City is doing good. Yeah, they're still at homes
their second week at home in their new stadium there.
So I want to get up there and see that
new stand. I never got up to down east. Uh
saw Hickory play in West Virginia a few years back,
But I want to go up and Cat and are
(01:08:25):
talking about making a trip up there see both of them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Yes, Spartanburg is kind of you can fly directly there
from DFW. It's on a little plane.
Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
You can.
Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
You can fly into Charlotte Drive. It's not that bad
of a drive.
Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Yeah. Uh. And then you know.
Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
From from from Spartanburg, since it's kind of central north
central South Carolina, it's not that far from from Hickory. No,
it's not.
Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
They're like eighty miles apart or.
Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Something that you could do them, do them both in
the same same trip.
Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Yep, exactly that we look that up. It's not that
I can't. I like the camp a little bit. We're like,
let's go up there.
Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Boy, I don't like the camp.
Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I do so here, Yeah, I do. It doesn't buy it.
It's more about laying around and like, you know, like
that's all right.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
You know I want air conditioning.
Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Well, I get air conditioned. Don't get me wrong. I
want We have some portables we bring with us, but
I want real air condition You want to bed is
what you want? You don't want to blow up that.
We all right, let's go to Hickory where our buddy
Maxton place. Hickley is nine and nine. They're in third
place right now, they're four and six in their last ten.
They did win last night. Yes, Maxton's kind of uh,
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he's leading the team and hitting. That's our guy down there. Offensively.
A couple other guys are there, uh, Gladdie's son, Bluddy
Guerrero's son, Pablo Maxton talked about.
Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Yeah, yeah, and and so so yeah, those guys who
they're all in the Complex League last year, right, Yeah,
Cabrera and guys of that ILK who you know, young
eighteen nineteen year old kids, some of them from Latin America,
some of the from the draft. A lot of the twenty
(01:09:58):
thirteen draft guys are there. Hayden Scarborough, who pitched four
scoreless Indians last night, he's there three twenty twenty three. Sorry, yeah,
Camden Perry, Uh yeah, he's been good. He's been pitching
really yeah, hot and cold he pitched, he did pitching.
Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Well you see what the what the fluff's about. I mean,
you can see when he has those outings, he's Yeah,
he's gotten.
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Luke Savage, who was not drafted that year but part
of that classic guys. So there he's been. William Pravett's
another guy who went to call it a Charleston right,
So that that twenty twenty three draft class is pretty
incting because of course it's headed by the guy why
at Langford. Their next pick was was Skyler Hales, and
(01:10:42):
their next pick was Alejandro Rosario, who still hasn't had surgery.
Trying to figure that one out too, And then and
then Scarborough.
Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
I heard somebody suggesting that they were uh he called
it prehab strengthening it before the surgery. Okay, maybe that's
a new way of thinking. I don't know what's going on.
There a lot of speculation.
Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
He's probably not going to play next year.
Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Well, he'll pitch at some point next year. Would But
I texted all Hondros such a nice guy, we've had
him on and he he responded very very nicely and
didn't really say anything. But that's okay. I'm sure he's
under orders not to say anything.
Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
The best news though, on the pitching side, I think.
Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Is Rock Porter, Yes, who's been amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
He continues to work in short stints, hasn't been scoring
on hurts. He's got ten to two thirds innings, about
two hits all season.
Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
The big thing for him is the walks. Three walks
to fourteen strikeouts. So whatever they worked on last year,
you know, it sounds like a mechanical thing. There was
some velocity dip that they had to figure out. Right,
he was healthy, he threw all all throughout the summer.
He appeared in some games in the Complex League. So
whatever it is, it appears to be trending the right
(01:11:56):
way now. And you know, on the personal side, he
he got engaged over the off season, So it sounds
like things are trending the right way for a guy
who and it was you know, it was the rocker
Porter won two punch.
Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Yeah, And it was strange last year because he wasn't injured.
There was just something funky going on, and he went.
He spent a lot of time in Arizona, spent a
lot of time in their lab and whatever you do
out there to get right, whatever it was, they will
take warning with that. Look where he is this year,
what he's doing, that's a guy right there that if
this keeps up, he might see a promotion up to
(01:12:31):
hub Citi.
Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Well, I think I think he will get I think
his will be to the rotation. Okay, he's not a reliever.
They still look at him as a starting pitcher, and
like I think I said, more stretch last show, they
presented him with the option, we can put you in
the rotation. Oh that's right, or you can just work
multiple stints in the bullpen and get stretched out that way.
(01:12:53):
And he chose the ladder, right, and uh, it's it
seems to be working, seems to be working. But now
I think I think his next step won't necessarily be
level wise, but he'll keep going from bullpen to back
into the rotation where he can get used to that again,
and then they'll see how there.
Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Is yeah, and do and do four innings in an outing,
because that's look that. If you ever notice these guys,
none of them go beyond five innings ever right now?
Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
They will eventually.
Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Yeah, yeah, no, but right now it's it's it's designed
that way. Yeah, it's designed that way. If they're if
they're dealing, they've only pitched sixty innings or sixty pitches,
and they go out five innings and scoreless or maybe
no hit or whatever, they're still not going to go
any further than that. That's the way they're doing them
right now. They're not stretching them beyond that. Dave Davalliel
was Davalliel, I would ever say that, right, But he
(01:13:39):
was just dealing the other night, no hit nine k's
whatever he's doing in that five inning extent, he was,
he was dealing. But they're on pitch counts. They this
is development.
Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Everybody wants to win and lose, and the Rangers want
to win and lose, and so do the minor league teams,
but they are not going to do it at the
risk of hurting one of these young kids they've got
that's all developed.
Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Yeah, and it's always it's about putting players in the
best position to succeed. And that's you know, sometimes it's hard,
player of Villam's not easy. Nope, sometimes it's hard. Sometimes
you take the guy who got a three and a
half million dollar bonus and say, hey, you need to
go to Arizona and work on some things.
Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Yeah, you need to sit out there and just hibernate and.
Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Get That's that's what happened with him, And looks like
things are definitely trending the right way.
Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Well, guys, we've gone a little long today. Let's get
out of here for this one. Anything else for.
Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
You hour in twenty three minutes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
That's okay, it'll cut down a little bit, it won't
be quite that long. But guys, look this is a
fun one. Thanks to Maxton Martin for coming on Guys
for Jeff Wilson, Maxton Martin, I'm John Moore until next
week or until the next recap comes on. We'll see
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