Dr. Cohen Brings In Friend Dr. Bill Sever

Dr. Cohen is in to introduce Surgeon Dr. Bill Sever who explains to Mindy and Boots how robotics helps with surgery. Dr. Cohen talks about how important it is to have reliable medical professionals.

Episode Transcript

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We should start calling this Cohen's Corneronce a month, Doctor Brian Cohen with
Peter get me fixed in two weeks. I don't mean literally fixed. I
can still make kids, but heartfix, I don't. I don't even
want to go there. Bob Barkerleft us. You just put a vision
in my head that just didn't needto be there before. Doctor Cohen.

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Welcome back as he is every singlemonth here on raw. That's going.
Everything's good, everything's good. Ibrought a friend today. I know you
bring a friend every single month,and I'm kind of sad in a way
because there was no immediate connection becausenormally Boots will bring someone in and I
either did a story on the personfrom the past and we're like, oh
my gosh, we know each other. But the story. Yeah, there

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was a story between us, right, Bill, that's right, go ahead
and introduce our guess. So,uh, my good friend and colleague,
Bill sever with I guess you callDonald sturgery not worth. Peter, Yeah,
I'll see surgery. We had abig play by play right here.
He gave me a T shirt.I love it. It's got his little
emotion picture material. I love,love love that. So tell us a

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little bit about your relationship, yourfriendship, how you guys got to know
each other, and how it workswith he told me. Doctor Cohen told
me that when it comes to roboticsurgery, you're one of the best in
the entire nation. That's like layingit on thick. But is it true?
That may be a stretch a bit. I've been doing it a while.
I was probably one of the firstones in the region to adopt the

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technology. It got introduced to meback in twenty eleven, and I wasn't
for sure. I really wanted todo it. I did a lot of
laparoscopy at the time, so itwas already a minimally invasive procedures we were
doing and wait, what's the laparoscySo yeah, so laparoscopy is just the
small incisions that we put on thebelly. We pass the camera ins through

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a tiny tube access inside the abdomwithout making a large incision. And so
at the time, our health systemwas struggling. We had lost like eleven
million dollars that year. The robotwas two million to purchase. I was
always a very conservative guide and wantto spend the system's money if if I

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didn't feel like it was really goingto help, and so it took me
a little while to kind of gravitatetowards it. But after about six months
I decided I was going to tryit, and I did my first case
in October of two thousand and twelve. So they've been doing it, you
know, better than eleven years now, and it truly become my specialty.
It's what I feel like I've Iwas kind of put here to do.
I mean, using it's one thing, but who builds it? I'm always

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baffled by the amount of technology,from the space settle to what you're talking
about, like help very complex.Who was the first guy to have it
gone? You know, well,they used it initially back in the early
two thousands with Eurology and gyn doinghistory ectomies and prostates, so if a
male need to have his prostate glandremoved. Eurologists had adopted that technology pretty

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quickly. They were doing hysterectomys infemales pretty early on, you know,
probably like two thousand and three,two thousand and four, and then general
surgery was one of the last onesto kind of adopt it. But it's
really become a tool for general surgerybecause we do the most minimal invasive surgery.
There's so many different procedures we dothat utilizes a robot. And kind

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of to your question, Intuitive surgicals, the one that owns the technology,
they build it. The last version. Eight hundred engineers is what it required
to build it. I hope it'sJapan or somewhere though. Sorry. I
can only imagine if you have donesurgery after surgery, after surgery with your
hands, you get to that comfortzone because you know precisely what to do.

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It's it's it's it's almost gets tobe riding a bike, and then
you change things up by using arobot. Explain to everybody how it actually
works. Is it remote control?Are you still using your hands for a
remote or how it does it work? Toggles or something. It's exactly like
a kind of like a joystick,a few where to sit down. I
kind of think of it like aflight simulator, okay, where you can

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sit down, look at a computerscreen. You've got a joystick or a
yoke in an airplane throttle controls.I mean with the surgical robot, it
it fits into her index finger andthumbs the instruments rotate one hundred and eighty
degrees. But you actually look throughthis three D hood that is connected to

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the camera that's looking inside the abdomen. We're sitting right beside the page.
Little blood, how does the camera? So? So I'm a gearhead,
as I told you, and Igo into an engine looking around with my
little camera that I bought it HarborFreight, which is junk, but it
works. And I'm always getting greaseand griming. But if you're going through
a vein, doesn't the blood stopthe camera from working. No, we're

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not in a vein. We're actuallyinside the abdominal cavity and so it's fairly
blood less. So it's like acavern or something. Yeah, okay,
I'm never leathering gutting a deer,and deer, honey, I've never really
looked inside a human body. Ifyou go to my website builds Surgery dot
com, I've got four or fivesurgeries there with hyperlinks you can do.
You can watch him, okay forfour to ten minutes long. What about
the surgery itself? And both ofyou can attest to this. Is it

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a better surgery if it's robotically donecompared to good old fashioned hands caught him
open much better. And I'll giveyou an example. Yeah, what what
makes them matter? So I dida surgery on a gentleman Friday. I'd
seen him probably six months ago.Found a colon cancer that was actually in
the rectum. He required to havechemotherapy and radiation for about four months prior

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to surgery. Okay, so hegot through all that, waited four weeks
or so. After he recovered fromhis chemo, we took him to surgery
on Friday. I resected about teninches of his rectum in upper or lower
colon, put him back together withthe robot, and he actually went home
that night. Yep. So weused the staping device and we sew with

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our hands. But the interesting thingis, had I done that with my
hands and done an open surgery,he'd be in the hospital at least probably
five to seven days. If Idid it with a laparoscope, he would
probably still be in the hospital fivedays or so. But he went home
same day surgery. Wow, that'spretty much what have you noticed on your
end? So we'll go So there'sless surgical trauma with the Da Vinci robot.

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So the orthopedic robots are not asadvanced as the Da Vinci in the
sense that we don't look in aviewfinder and almost like play a video game.
We're actually programming it and kind ofcontrolling it as it goes through.
So it's it's it has programming throughthe computer and it has the accuracy that

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we don't have as humans to thatdegree. Like if I wanted to change
an angle a degree, it cando that. If I want to do
it myself, I can kind ofestimated on a field, yeah, or
for a cutting jig, but it'snot as accurate. So there are two
different types of technologies. Eventually orthopedicswill get there where we are not hands

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on, but we still still doa hands on approach. And infection.
This is probably a lot less chanceof infection with all the garbage in the
air, right, Yeah, smallerincisions, so there's less tissue trauma,
like doctor Cohen just alluded to.And when you have less tissue trauma,
less bleeding, there's less risk forno go now, okay, all right,
more with these fine gentlemen. Iwas like, are you going to

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say his hands signal? Yeah,I want to get more with these guys.
So we're not the next segment,so we'll get back with these guys.
And it's pretty interesting, man,it's very cool. This is this
throw Indian Boots on news radio SixtendWTVN. All right, we are talking
as we do every single month withdoctor Brian Cohen of Cohen Orthopedic and he

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brought along a buddy, a friend, Cohort True, doctor Bill, sever
both of them. You know,we were just having a segment before you
guys got in studio, and wewere asking people if professional athletes make too
much money, and we said,if there was a profession that could make
the most money in the United Statesof America, what would that be.

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Several people said doctors, because theysave lives and a lot of people are
intimidated by doctors. But then youguys come into the studio and you're just
like normal people. You're so approachableand that's what you that's what you want
to be to your patients. Correct. Yeah, And you know, Bill
and I met. I don't know, we met at our job. But

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the thing, it's very unusual thatorthopedic surgeons and general surgeons we get along.
We just it's a different approach tomedicine. We just do different things.
You know, we're usually fighting forthe same our time. But you
know, Bill and I have onething in common is that we really believe
that, you know, we're herefor the patients, and as much as
it impacts our personal lives to makethat sacrifice, it really is the benefit

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of what we do, you know, to be you know, twenty four
seven available for the people we takecare of, and you know, their
family members and anybody else put inan eighty hours a week plus plus plus,
well, it's funny, it's youknow, it's funny. It'd be
nice to clock in and clock outto see what the hours actually were,
but it's more of it's a twentyfour seven. You know, patients leave,
you know, when they have surgerywith me or get scheduled, they

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leave with my phone number just becauseif they have a problem, I'm the
only one who knows how to handletheir problem for the most part, in
the sense that I'm the one thatdid the surgery, so I may be
there may have been a nuance abouttheir surgery that I'm concerned about. So
when I hear their their question,I'm like, oh, yeah, this
is what I got to do.When you refer me to Metheny. I
felt good. That's why I'm I'mall. I am more of a I

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want to make sure if you're cuttingme open or you're going up with me
in a camera, I want tomake sure that I think you care about
me. And I really feel thatyou guys care. But I've had a
lot of doctors and it didn't makeme feel that way. But you didn't
hesitate because doctor Cleve done right thatCleveland Clint Clevelandland. I was like,
nope, I got the best kindof city. Because my buddy said,
so you trust doctor Cohen. Ido. It's exactly because I feel like

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you're a good friend now and II if you say he's grade. Soon
as I walked in, it feltlike I was talking to your brother.
Yeah, and you know, andyou know, Bill could attest this.
We try to identify those people inthe different fields that we would go to
personally or send a family member to. Doctor Matheny Shamothiny. He's one of
those people in cardiology. I mean, the guy is twenty four seven about
his patients and oh, I couldeven meiling right now when answer in time,

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and he is he and he knowswhat he's doing. You know,
you could be a great guy orgal or person, but you also have
to be able to know what you'redoing. Please. Yeah, it becomes
infectious as a professional and in ourfields, when you're around people like Brian
and you're around people like Shane,it almost kind of upste Antie. You

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know, you want to you wantyour practice to be very similar to theirs.
And not that I wasn't approachable,you know, prior to meeting Brian,
because you know when he was alreadyworking at the organization I started at
when I when I got there.But it's just really nice. It's a
very it's a team sport, andso when you got other people around this

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all pulling in the same direction,you know, it makes you feel good
about what you're doing for people.And you know, if you go back
and reflect about your career, Ifeel very fortunate. And then people that
I've met, uh that you canfeel and trusted to, and you can
feel good about sending your patients thembecause you know they're gonna be taken care
of, like your mom or yourdad, especially when you see him out
about and they go, hey,you remember me, you guys do and

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then yes, make you feel goodwhen someone comes up to you. Well,
I mean, you know, Bill'soperated on my mother in law,
you know, I mean, whoelse are you gonna you know? I
mean she can't have a bad result. It can end up in a divorce.
You. But the way you guyshave with your relationships, you spend
so much time when you devate,devote so much time to your patients,

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How do you have time for anythingelse? And Bill, you're a cattle
farmer and you have five kids.Do you sleep? I do? I
do sleep sometimes. My my wifetells me that I haven't been home very
much. But she's a nurse bytrade and a nurse practitioner. She gets
it. She grow up on afarm. How is that cattle farming?

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Ye? Up on a farm.In a matter of fact, I used
to row crop about a thousand acresup until twenty seventeen. But it just
got to be too overwhelming and itbecame not as much fun, so I
quit. Now I'm down to skinningmy cattle herd down to where it's just
going to really be being a doctorfor you got milk cows or no,

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that's too much work, beef cows. You know, when I first started,
I used to mow my lawn.Yeah, isn't that like row cropping?
Ye? For a couple of years. And that was it. Hey,
ask a question for you guys abouta procedure that he's having done.
Dana, what's your question? Makeit quick for us, buddy, we're
almost out of time. No,it was a question about you go ahead,

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we're talking about robotic. I've hadit done twice. O you want
to to east. And then Ihad radical prostate cancer removable or the prostate
I'll ask to you James and hThat was the first one was the most
painful one, uh even more.You would have thought it would have been

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the project, but it was whenI had a triple hernia in the document
on w the robot and the inflatedmy stomach. It put a roll or
something called uh self adhesive selk crowadhesive down there, and the then rolled
it underneath my skin and went fromside to side and she angered it down.

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Then your fresh grows up through itand creates a real good bond.
Now, the other one it tookover two and a half hours, but
the other one took four and ahalf hours to do because he ran and
and and you things with my urizathat had to be sex. Also,

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Yeah, that's not that. Ihad some some more some more robotic things.
I didn't specify what they were.So how'd you get her a dana?
Were you picking up heavy stuff?Well, the doctor told me it
can just happen, okay, andyou can be born with it and as

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you already gets worse. Yeah,my brother went through that. It's a
very common entity, especially in males, just because males doing male things,
picking up and there's arty and laboring, but females have them as well.
I mean all those things you mentioned, I do those things. I know
you do. I know you do. I mean I pick up boots,
every every everything she carries, carryingevery shell. He gives me a brain

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hurry, Hi heavy, Hey,boots your heart good. I'm down to
two hundred and twenty two pounds.So a friend of mine joke around.
Seem as happy, you don't seemas glen fired to be. Yeah,
he really did. Seems Will thatimprove with him in time? I take
I kind of missed the old boots. I mean some subdue and crumble cookie

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will probably help. Yeah, myday. You know what, I've had
anything good. I haven't had abeer in six weeks. Maybe that's what.
I don't go to the Moose anymoreon Saturday night. I don't.
I mean every Saturday night Ice gettuned up on some cronas and then that's
got screwed up by Budweiser. SoI moved over to MIDDLEVI ginuine draft.
But I haven't had any fun.I'm putting three hours a day in and
I'm done. I'm done. Thoughtit sounds like I'm routine. You can't

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you change my ways? I getfreaked out like rain Man. You know,
I want to co count back.Will the old boots to be back?
Eventually? Doctor Cohen? You know, once they get his heart back
and rhythm, he should have betterprofusion throughout his body. So I mean
he should. You know. Thequestion is you know how much of this
valve situation They said that that,but they said that I'll feel like a
million bucks. My brother went throughit. I had a gentleman yesterday went

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through it. You'll definitely feel better. Your energy leveryone. Fatigue will improve
dramatic when you're not in nutrial fibrillation. Yeah, so it's I'm not right
now, but it comes and goes. So and your brain profusion is probably
going to improve as well. Heneeds something with that brain if we can
new week gosh, yeah, soyou guys are sticking around for Rivia.
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been. And we are back instudio talking to the doctors watching the Bengals
who just scored finally again. Cohen, are you a Browns? Are Bengal

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fans? Seven twenty four. Idon't watch the NFL anymore. I'm a
lonely Jet fan. Jet's okay,you know what he is, though,
he's like a proud papa right now. Because we were just talking to these
two doctors and when they see successstories after they conduct these surgeries, whether
they're robotic surgeries or not, andthen to see the lives that they've changed
and the success that these people goon to live, it has to be

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overwhelmingly proud for you. And thenyou want to talk about something going on
right now. Yeah, so wehad to guess in the studio of the
last few months. Newton hoops,who's the young quarterback from Unioda. He
just broke the passing yards record noway his past Friday, and then I
think at the beginning of season brokethe touchdown record for good. What did
you do for him? Fixed hisclasical? He broke his clasical in a

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game about two years ago. Man, So if he didn't go to doctor
Cohen, lord knows where he'd beright now. And here he is breaking
records because he's able to use thatand he's a good kid. By not
breaking records, now break that shouldbe a slow exactly brows position about five
years I've eat super and then you'llget all the glory. And then there's

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someone else, a coach. Andthen Scott Thomlinson, the coach we had,
had both his hips replaced. Hisuh Eastern Eagles are now five and
oh wow. Yeah, and heplayed his first nine rounds nine holes of
golf today. Yeah nice, ohyeah. And he ran out on the
field for the first game. Hehad had a bet with a friend of
Bills and Mind, Jason Prater,if he could run out on the field

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for the first game after both hiships were replaced. Jason's gonna take him
to Jeff Rubies for dinner. Thereyou go, Oh wow, that's a
good, nice dinner. Yeah,I'm always buying min East dinner because I
lose every bet we make. Hedidn't take me to Jeff Rubies though,
he takes Yeah, he takes meexactly. But you know what, how

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awesome to see the success. AndI remember when Scott was in here.
He is a big guy, andhe was talking about because he coaches football,
basketball, and baseball too, right, I think did do all three
of them, or maybe just twoof them, just two I think.
And he got to the point wherewhen he was coaching he had to sit
down, and that's not being avery active coach. If you're a coach,

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you're very passionate about it. Youwant to walk the sidelines or on
the court, and he's able todo that now. He messaged me the
other day just saying that because hefeels so good, he feels like his
coaching is better. Just he couldbe more active on you know, with
the kids. You know, Ithink pr all the time. That's how
I lived my wife, and Ithink you should go to Good Guys and
set up a tent because there's morescooters. The good guys I named good

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Guys just thought you because he's sucha good guy that too. But people,
there's so many bad hips and kneeson them scooters. I call it
scooter nationals now as good guys.They run out of scooters at that a
big event, all them car guys, and there are scooters everywhere. I
can't stand it. I'm like,let's go to Cone and get your hips
or your knees or whatever's wrong withyou. Just get yourself, do a
frame off on them. That's whatthey need. That's what we'll do next

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time. There you go. Sothat team if they go undefeated, if
you think about it, they reallyhave you to blame or give credit to.
Oh there you go, you savetheir coach. Well, I mean
it's just, I mean, it'sjust I mean, you met Scott,
you met him, actually met himbefore. But he's just such you know,
he's just such a nice guy thatwas suffering and it's just nice too,
you know, forget about all theother stuff. Just to see him

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walk without pain. It's just anamazing you know. He's young, he's
young. That's that's that's the thing. I mean, you both better give
out your information. And case Hmwas listening right now and they're like,
I want to go to them.How do they get ahold of both of
you, doctor Cohen? So theygo to the website Cohen Orthopedic dot com
or call the office six one fourseven eight eight zero three seven five doctor

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Bill Sever. They can go toBill sever Surgery dot com and there's an
email in which info at Bill severSurgery dot com. They can send an
email if at one an appointment,or they can call seven four zero six
three seven five zero one five.There you go, all right, Mandy,
we got next what matters with Mindyand MICHAELA come and up next,
we have another doctor in the house. Guess where I'm going. I'm going

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racing at Trails. Can I dealwith a bad heart? Doctor Day with
Anthony Dental's coming in and you're gonnabe racing, and I'm gonna go racing
the pizza ship contest at Ryker putson pizza ship. That's kind of hard
to say pizza ship. Every dealershiphas a car and they all got nitrius
and stuff. And I don't knowif the public aren't have a richer rents

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the trails. So they said,I come race my bet tonight. So
I'm excited, Doctor Bees, thanksfor coming in, Doctor Brian, Doctor
Bill, I Calti, doctor Bees, and I'm with Boots, Boots,
Brian and Bill. I know bytriple Bees. And guess what we will
not I will not be here nextsun At You're all in yourself and whoever
you're gonna bring in, Yeah,gets ready. This is raw. Indian
Boots will be back next week onnews radio six ten w TV in