November 23, 2025 • 20 mins
Mindy speaks with Dr.Cohen who introduces one of his friends!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, Thursday is Thanksgiving. Thursday is Thanksgiving. It feels like
it just got here so fast, and it's always the
time of the year that we really reflect back and
think what are we thankful for? Most everybody is obviously
thankful for family, for friends. Am I on because it
feels like it's really okay. Maybe it's my maybe it's
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your piece that isn't working right. Anyway, we are thankful
Boots and myself both for you, doctor Cohen of Cohen Orthopedic.
You've been part of the show for years now, and
I don't know if this show would be nearly as
successful if you weren't a huge part of it. So honestly,
and I know I speak for Boots as well, thank
you for your involvement in RAW and dedication to us.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I appreciate it. But to be honest with you, I
mean your patient, you're well, your listeners are my patients.
It's really interesting how many people. Just last week I
had a patient come in. I don't even think they
had a problem, but they heard me on the show
and they want it to be seeing.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He just wanted to meet you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
He has an issue, but really he really he didn't
want to do anything about it. But he just wanted
in my opinion, he had heard me on the show,
but it was interesting, and I actually said to my said, look,
I said, if ever you want to go on the show,
here's my phone number. And you know we've had patients
on before. I mean, obviously you're not going to tell
a story about some great operation that I did or
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any success story, but at least you can talk about
you came in and we talked and here you are.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
But we've known you for years. And I also know
there is a world of doctors out there that aren't
so willing to give their own personal cell phone out,
but you do that. You have such a connection with
your patients. I think it's rare.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
The only thing I could say is for me, you know,
doing surgery on people and the concerns that come up
during the recovery or before the surgery, I just think
that I'm the best one to answer their questions. So
instead of them being thrown around all these phone trees
and getting lost in the system, they could just call
or text me and then they get an answer and
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they're very appreciative and it really goes a long way.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well. Robert Cooperman was just leaving the studio and he
had a question for you. And what did I hear
you say, give me a call.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, well, I said, I'll look at his stuff and
I'll call him.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
See that's what I mean. But you know what, you
don't just say that, you mean it. And another great
thing with you we're talking to Brian Cohen of Cohen Orthopedic,
is you're so well connected with so many other doctors,
not just here in Ohio but outside the state and
across the country. And you brought a friend in colleague
with you who doesn't do what you do but other things.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, so it's very interesting. You know, Bill Seavers is
a very good friend of mine. We've known each other,
and his wife Jenny's here and I appreciate them coming in.
But one thing about orthopedics in general surgery, they don't
really get the surgeons don't really get along traditionally. And
you know, Bill and I have been working together for
over ten years and we've always worked well together and
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we just have good conversation. Is about patient access and
patient care and what's the right way to treat people.
And I thought it was important to bring him in
around this time, just because he's as good or if
not better, at what he does, and his approach is
very similar. He gives his cell phone to his patients.
He's very accessible when I reach out to him, you know,
like we did a couple of weeks ago when you
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had an issue with Randy.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I actually Randy has more issues with me, right. I
feel sorry for Randy.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But I texted Bill during the show and he texted you.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, I know. But I really do think and maybe
that's because you guys are friends that you agree with
stuff like that. I just don't think that that's what
most doctors do. I really don't. And maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
No, I think you're correct. You know, I gotta probably
be careful what I say on air.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Why doctor Cohen's never careful with what he says? How
about it, doctor Seeber.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
You know, Brian and I have known each other since
two thousand and five, and we've shared back and forth.
Hey I got this, patient's got this, that or the other.
When can you get him in? It's like, Hey, have
them call me or send me their stuff, And within
two and a half minutes, Hey, I've reached out. They're
coming in to see me tomorrow or be here this afternoon,
And that is always a very heartfelt sentiment on my
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part because it's taking an issue that somebody's given to me.
I passed on to Brian and he's already closed it out,
and he and I have this conversation all the time.
If you don't know somebody in healthcare, it is such
a difficult area to navigate, just trying to get in.
Who do you get in with? What's the right person
for me? Is this the right specialty? And to us
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it's commonplace, is what we do for a living, and
it's just so easy for us to get them into
the right spot. But if you don't know, it can
be very frustrating and people oftentimes just feel like they
want to give up.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So what is your specialty?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm a general surgeon. I do mostly robotics, so most
of anything inside the belly. I don't do much liver surgery,
and I don't do any pancreat attic surgery. There are
a patobiliary specialists that do two three year fellowships that
I send those patients onto, But anything else inside the abdomen,
typically gallbladder surgery, hernias hernias. I take care of a
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few hernias it's actually probably the most common surgery I do.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And then I how do you get a hernia in
your abdomen and your belly in your stomach area couples
of lifting.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well, it can be congenital, so it can be there
from birth, it can be there from a weakness in
the abdominal wall when males and females are just doing
strenuous things over a period of decades and it pops up.
Or probably the most common type is somebody it's had
a previous decision on their abdomen and it goes on
to become more weak and then develops into an incisional hernia.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So what I want to ask you about too, because
we have talked to you several years ago about the
whole robotic surgery, because looking at it from just a regular,
everyday person, I mean, I know my initials are empty,
but I'm the furthest thing from a doctor. But I
think to myself, you know, you see operating rooms and
you see people being so intricate and careful and operating,
and I'm talking about movies, TV shows or documentaries, but
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this whole world of robots performing these surgeries. Do you
think they're better with robots more precise.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
So the robot isn't actually performing the surgery. The robot
is a piece of surgical equipment that I actually control
from a set of joysticks, like playing a video game
or flying an airplane.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Is it easier for you to operate and do it
that way?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, the precision is much better. I will say that.
You know, when if I've had maybe one extra cup
of coffee in the mornings and my tremors a little
a little off that day, the needle drivers on the
robot doesn't tremor.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Now, what about you? Do you feel the same way
about robotic surgeries.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So it's interesting because the robot that we use is
completely different than the one that Doctor Receiver is. So
doctor Receiver or Bill as I like to call them,
he'll sit he'll sit in the corner and look into
a screen and play a video game basically of the surgery,
and the robot is over the patient doing the surgery.
So it's completely disconnected from his direct contacts in orthopedic
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because they have not developed, they have not commercialized that
type of robot yet. There are some trials out there.
But what I have is we call it a robotic arm,
but I program it and then I control it. I
have my hands on it. It does not work unless I'm
actually touching the robotic arm to do what I needed
to do. So, but it's very precise. I could if
I if I want to change an angle by a degree,
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or if I want to change a cup by a millimeter,
I just program it to do that. So it's very precise.
But it's completely different. And that's what you know when
patients see the da Vinci which doctor Receiver uses, and
i'd use the Makeo. They're completely different, and it's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So let me ask you both this. The very first
time you used robots or robotic surgery, were you a
little nervous because it's something It was something new? I
mean the very first time you even started looking at
it and you're thinking this is going to work. I
had to be a little nerve wracking, Doctor Civer you first.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Well, the DaVinci system was a transition because generally we
used laparoscopy, so we were already using cameras through really
tiny incisions and instruments that we controlled with our hands,
and then it transitioned over to this stationary robot that
was positioned over to the patient like Brian was speaking of,
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and we have a set of joysticks, so it I
guess it was a little bit of a transition, and
there is some learning curve to it. You know, probably
thirty to fifty cases before you say, okay, I feel
really comfortable where everything is and I know what I'm
touching now. But it wasn't probably as a big of
leap to make, is what maybe somebody in the late
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public would think that it would be.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Like me, because I think that I'm thinking, you're so
used to doing it the traditional way and then you're
going to go and use a robot.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Well, the beautiful thing about the DaVinci is is Vinci.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Name, it's actually like doing old fashioned surgery because we
use needle drivers, we use souture inside and I sew
with my hands. I just happen to be used in
a set of joysticks. It's so much different and so
much more poite precise than laparoscopy.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It actually sounds really cool.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
It is very cool.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, what about you you nervous at first, doctor Cohen.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You know, in in robotics and orthopedics, it's I would say,
it opens up your eyes to more objective data, so
we have numbers that we're working with and what we're
trying to accomplish, so I can't say it was more
nerve wracking. And there are some safety factors built in
based off of how the surveys planned off the cat scan.
So for me, it was an easy transition because it's
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really the same operation except when we're making our bone
cuts for knees and hips, we're actually just using a
saw that's attached to an arm. So it's it's, it's
it's for me, it was straightforward.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Pete. We have a phone call, and you know what,
that's a great, great intro to the segment because if
anyone is listening, this is your opportunity to get free
advice from these doctors. If there's anything that you're going
on or going on in your body that you're going through,
call us up at sixty one four eight two one
nine eight eight six six one four eight two one
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nine eight eighty six. I don't care if it's your arm,
your shoulder that's feeling wrong, or maybe you think you
have a hernia, whatever the case may be, call us up.
Pete is on the line, and Pete has a question
for you, Doctor Cohen. Go ahead, Pete, you're on the
air with us.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Okay, thank you. It's actually for doctor sever Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Whoa whoao. I know it said doctor Cohen on the screen,
but we're going to go to doctor sever.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Hey, Pete, thanks, I'm your guys. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Deep. So, So, I was diagnosed with an umbilical hernia
a year ago after a uh what do they call
CT scan? I have not done the surgery. I'm looking
for reasons to do the surgery. It's it's been pretty
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and the hernia is caused by certain things that I
put in my body. Alcohol I'm not a heavy drinker,
but just just on New Year's but or pasta sauce,
you know, he kind of tomato sauce, citrus fruits, dairy.
So I've lived without those things for the last year,
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because I'm sure you already know that for our listener's sake.
When I when before I realized what I had, uh,
this hernia would cause not it wasn't painful, but it
would be very uncomfortable. I would have to lay on
my stomach for a good eight hours before what happens
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is a bulge in uh forms by my belly button
and it stayed there for like I said, eight hours,
and I finally it'll go away. But it's you know,
it's just rolling out of bed because the bathroom is
very uncomfortable, and the whole time, you know, is just
not a good feeling. So so for the last year,
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since I've avoided those trigger things, I had not had
the bults. But you know, of course, I'm getting a
little tired of not being able to put those to
eat and drink those things.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
So hey, Pete, we're going to have you hold on
because we're up against a break. We're actually a minute
out or heavy. But hold on and I'll let doctor
Seafer answer your question as soon as we come back
from that, because they're very good points, and I'm sure
there's a lot of people out there that have that
same situation, So he will answer your question right after this.
We'll be right back everybody. Do you guys ever get
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tired of the Christmas music or the Christmas shows that
on every single year? Do you ever get tired of it?
Do you love it?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
We have a little kid, so we don't have.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
An option, but do you ever get tired of it?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I mean, after three months I kind of wear about.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
As well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I don't think I ever get tired of it, just
because Christmas music and Christmas specials, they're all so fun
and meaningful. I don't know. We had a caller for you,
and if you have any hell concern that you would
like to talk to a dock, talk to a dock.
They are in studio right now. You can do that.
Pete called in right before he went to break and
had a lengthy question. You know what the answer is now,
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it's about basically, what.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So, Pete, it sounds like you've gotten umbilical hernia. You
probably have some tissue called prepared to neo fat that
has come up through that opening in your abdominalt wall,
and that's what the bulge is. And if it lines
up in the correct space, and you would happen to
increase your intra abdominal pressure by coughing or sneezing or
getting in out of bed or getting in and out
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of your car or truck, it might pop through. So
it sounds like it's symptomatic. You know, we'd be happy
to see you in the office and evaluate you and
kind of give you the pros and cons of either
going on without having surgery or deciding to go forward
with surgery.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
But that's uh.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
I do that operation probably twenty thirty times a month.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
He doesn't sleep, Pete, he does, or Pete, thank you
for calling. I hope, I hope that helps you. Does it?
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I mean he said the word problematic, So I think
I'll be reaching out. Yeah, I mean, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Go ahead, we're going to do this at the end
of the hour. Anyway, go ahead if he needs to,
If anyone else is listening, what is the best way
to get a hold of you, doctor receiver?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You can contact our office at six one four five
four four zero zero three two and that'll get you
one of our young ladies in the office and I'll
get you fixed up.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Do you get the number, Pete? You're good? I think
so they just connect.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Zero zero three two.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
This is why we do the show. It's these connections
that matter so much. And you know, talking about connections,
you guys met. How many years ago did you two
first meet?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
It's two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I was already there.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I mean, I mean, you know, the interesting thing about
this whole thing is that you know, Bill grew up
in Shell Coffee and that's where I started practicing in
two thousand and then he shows up on the doorstep
in two thousand and five, and it's you know, it's like,
you gotta be nice to the kid.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I mean, he lived there.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I gotta be nice to him. I'm the outsider.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
But you know what, you look at Chilicothee and you
look at different communities that you guys both live in
and you work in, and that is I think one
of the things that makes you both so successful. Yeah,
you're great doctors, but I think it's your heart, the
way you care about not just your patients, but your community.
Talk a little bit about why that is so important
to you and why you are so ready to give
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back at a drop of a hat.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well, I mean we've talked about this project that Bill
and I have been working on since god knows how long,
but it's coming close now. So you know, there's a
there's a right way and a wrong way to do things.
And when you find somebody in medicine that has a
similar approach as you, and you think you can work
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together to build this destination type health care facility for
patients and for the employees, you know, I mean people
don't like to Some people really don't like going to
work and Monday and Sunday night they have that icky
feeling in their belly about what they got to do
on Monday at work.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's not a hernia and it's not a hernia.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And and you know, what we hope to create is
is not only a place where patients enjoy coming and
feel safe and appreciated and recognized, but we want the
employees that work there to have the same feeling.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And that's really the approach.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
You know, how do you make a facility that focuses
on the patient and the employees at the same time
and then do a good job.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I think your patients and just my gosh, talking to
several ones who we've met through you just feel such
a closeness to you, not just because you're changing their
life for the better, but it's that emotional connection as well.
How important is that to you too, doctor Siver?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Well, it's why we do what we do.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
You know, when I follow Brian's page on Facebook, and
you know, he puts a lot of things out there
and has really dedicated the last four or five years
to trying to push this project across the finish line.
I'm hoping to help him do whatever I can to
do to make sure it gets there. But the people
in our community truly appreciate what he is doing for them.
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And even though he lives you always tell me Plain City,
it's I'm not sure it's Plain City.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
That's what he tells me.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
It is.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Even though he lives.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
In Plain City.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
People really gravitate towards Brian and they would claim him
for their own.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Twice on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And why wouldn't you if we had more people in
our lives like the both of you and probably your
wife too, who's sitting in here, but she's staying low key,
off the mic, away from the camera. And I don't
know why she's cuter than a button.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
She is.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I know we were talking about how my sister is
moving into a barn dominium. I'm like, I don't know
if you guys know a barnminium and there, and you said,
what we dominium is. It's kind of a newer thing, though,
isn't it.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Well, we've had ours for almost ten years.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Okay, never mind, we've got we've.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Got a donkey across the road and.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's but what's the best benefit of it.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
It's just a big open space. I don't know. Kids
have the run of it.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You wouldn't think too many doctors have a barn dominium,
but they do.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
They do well.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
You know, Bill's not telling the whole story. I mean,
he's actually a farm or two.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
We first talked to him a couple of years ago.
I think that was the connection. It was really a
cool story.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's funny how many people Bill refers to me that work.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
On his form.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's just it's an amazing I just.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
They pull something in their shoulder or arm or elbow,
and usually what happens is that Bill sees them doing
something that awkwardly like, they look like they're hurt, and
he has to like it probably happened like four weeks ago,
but he when he sees it, he's like, wait a second,
So you're not lifting right, something's wrong, You're not walking right.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Maybe he just has these people at the barnamdium to
give you business. I'm just kidding. It's possible. Okay, So
what is coming up next? Well, we just talked about Thursdays.
Obviously Thanksgiving Rivia, it's one of our most favorite parts
of the show. We do this every Sunday around three
thirty five and we pick a different topic. We are
talking about Thanksgiving, so it's trivia questions relating to Thanksgiving.
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Call us up if you would like to compete. Boots
always loads you up with all kinds of goodies and
gift certificates and roosters, bucks and car washes, things like that.
Six one four eight two one nine eight eighty six
six one four eight two one nine eight eighty six.
You will have both of the duct does to be
your your phone a friend basically, So Jill's a running champion.
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We're gonna call Jill or Jill's gonna call in, and
hopefully there's a good connection this week, because we've kind
of had a bad connection last week with Jill's phone.
But anyway, call us up competing against Jill, and let's
be thankful for one another and for rivia or back
in a moment. You're listening to Raw on six' TEN.
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Oh, Thursday is Thanksgiving. Thursday is Thanksgiving. It feels like
it just got here so fast, and it's always the
time of the year that we really reflect back and
think what are we thankful for? Most everybody is obviously
thankful for family, for friends. Am I on because it
feels like it's really okay. Maybe it's my maybe it's
(00:20):
your piece that isn't working right. Anyway, we are thankful
Boots and myself both for you, doctor Cohen of Cohen Orthopedic.
You've been part of the show for years now, and
I don't know if this show would be nearly as
successful if you weren't a huge part of it. So honestly,
and I know I speak for Boots as well, thank
you for your involvement in RAW and dedication to us.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I appreciate it. But to be honest with you, I
mean your patient, you're well, your listeners are my patients.
It's really interesting how many people. Just last week I
had a patient come in. I don't even think they
had a problem, but they heard me on the show
and they want it to be seeing.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He just wanted to meet you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
He has an issue, but really he really he didn't
want to do anything about it. But he just wanted
in my opinion, he had heard me on the show,
but it was interesting, and I actually said to my said, look,
I said, if ever you want to go on the show,
here's my phone number. And you know we've had patients
on before. I mean, obviously you're not going to tell
a story about some great operation that I did or
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any success story, but at least you can talk about
you came in and we talked and here you are.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
But we've known you for years. And I also know
there is a world of doctors out there that aren't
so willing to give their own personal cell phone out,
but you do that. You have such a connection with
your patients. I think it's rare.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
The only thing I could say is for me, you know,
doing surgery on people and the concerns that come up
during the recovery or before the surgery, I just think
that I'm the best one to answer their questions. So
instead of them being thrown around all these phone trees
and getting lost in the system, they could just call
or text me and then they get an answer and
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they're very appreciative and it really goes a long way.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well. Robert Cooperman was just leaving the studio and he
had a question for you. And what did I hear
you say, give me a call.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, well, I said, I'll look at his stuff and
I'll call him.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
See that's what I mean. But you know what, you
don't just say that, you mean it. And another great
thing with you we're talking to Brian Cohen of Cohen Orthopedic,
is you're so well connected with so many other doctors,
not just here in Ohio but outside the state and
across the country. And you brought a friend in colleague
with you who doesn't do what you do but other things.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, so it's very interesting. You know, Bill Seavers is
a very good friend of mine. We've known each other,
and his wife Jenny's here and I appreciate them coming in.
But one thing about orthopedics in general surgery, they don't
really get the surgeons don't really get along traditionally. And
you know, Bill and I have been working together for
over ten years and we've always worked well together and
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we just have good conversation. Is about patient access and
patient care and what's the right way to treat people.
And I thought it was important to bring him in
around this time, just because he's as good or if
not better, at what he does, and his approach is
very similar. He gives his cell phone to his patients.
He's very accessible when I reach out to him, you know,
like we did a couple of weeks ago when you
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had an issue with Randy.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I actually Randy has more issues with me, right. I
feel sorry for Randy.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But I texted Bill during the show and he texted you.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, I know. But I really do think and maybe
that's because you guys are friends that you agree with
stuff like that. I just don't think that that's what
most doctors do. I really don't. And maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
No, I think you're correct. You know, I gotta probably
be careful what I say on air.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Why doctor Cohen's never careful with what he says? How
about it, doctor Seeber.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
You know, Brian and I have known each other since
two thousand and five, and we've shared back and forth.
Hey I got this, patient's got this, that or the other.
When can you get him in? It's like, Hey, have
them call me or send me their stuff, And within
two and a half minutes, Hey, I've reached out. They're
coming in to see me tomorrow or be here this afternoon,
And that is always a very heartfelt sentiment on my
(04:16):
part because it's taking an issue that somebody's given to me.
I passed on to Brian and he's already closed it out,
and he and I have this conversation all the time.
If you don't know somebody in healthcare, it is such
a difficult area to navigate, just trying to get in.
Who do you get in with? What's the right person
for me? Is this the right specialty? And to us
(04:39):
it's commonplace, is what we do for a living, and
it's just so easy for us to get them into
the right spot. But if you don't know, it can
be very frustrating and people oftentimes just feel like they
want to give up.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So what is your specialty?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm a general surgeon. I do mostly robotics, so most
of anything inside the belly. I don't do much liver surgery,
and I don't do any pancreat attic surgery. There are
a patobiliary specialists that do two three year fellowships that
I send those patients onto, But anything else inside the abdomen,
typically gallbladder surgery, hernias hernias. I take care of a
(05:14):
few hernias it's actually probably the most common surgery I do.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And then I how do you get a hernia in
your abdomen and your belly in your stomach area couples
of lifting.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well, it can be congenital, so it can be there
from birth, it can be there from a weakness in
the abdominal wall when males and females are just doing
strenuous things over a period of decades and it pops up.
Or probably the most common type is somebody it's had
a previous decision on their abdomen and it goes on
to become more weak and then develops into an incisional hernia.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So what I want to ask you about too, because
we have talked to you several years ago about the
whole robotic surgery, because looking at it from just a regular,
everyday person, I mean, I know my initials are empty,
but I'm the furthest thing from a doctor. But I
think to myself, you know, you see operating rooms and
you see people being so intricate and careful and operating,
and I'm talking about movies, TV shows or documentaries, but
(06:06):
this whole world of robots performing these surgeries. Do you
think they're better with robots more precise.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
So the robot isn't actually performing the surgery. The robot
is a piece of surgical equipment that I actually control
from a set of joysticks, like playing a video game
or flying an airplane.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Is it easier for you to operate and do it
that way?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Well, the precision is much better. I will say that.
You know, when if I've had maybe one extra cup
of coffee in the mornings and my tremors a little
a little off that day, the needle drivers on the
robot doesn't tremor.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Now, what about you? Do you feel the same way
about robotic surgeries.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So it's interesting because the robot that we use is
completely different than the one that Doctor Receiver is. So
doctor Receiver or Bill as I like to call them,
he'll sit he'll sit in the corner and look into
a screen and play a video game basically of the surgery,
and the robot is over the patient doing the surgery.
So it's completely disconnected from his direct contacts in orthopedic
(07:10):
because they have not developed, they have not commercialized that
type of robot yet. There are some trials out there.
But what I have is we call it a robotic arm,
but I program it and then I control it. I
have my hands on it. It does not work unless I'm
actually touching the robotic arm to do what I needed
to do. So, but it's very precise. I could if
I if I want to change an angle by a degree,
(07:31):
or if I want to change a cup by a millimeter,
I just program it to do that. So it's very precise.
But it's completely different. And that's what you know when
patients see the da Vinci which doctor Receiver uses, and
i'd use the Makeo. They're completely different, and it's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So let me ask you both this. The very first
time you used robots or robotic surgery, were you a
little nervous because it's something It was something new? I
mean the very first time you even started looking at
it and you're thinking this is going to work. I
had to be a little nerve wracking, Doctor Civer you first.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Well, the DaVinci system was a transition because generally we
used laparoscopy, so we were already using cameras through really
tiny incisions and instruments that we controlled with our hands,
and then it transitioned over to this stationary robot that
was positioned over to the patient like Brian was speaking of,
(08:25):
and we have a set of joysticks, so it I
guess it was a little bit of a transition, and
there is some learning curve to it. You know, probably
thirty to fifty cases before you say, okay, I feel
really comfortable where everything is and I know what I'm
touching now. But it wasn't probably as a big of
leap to make, is what maybe somebody in the late
(08:47):
public would think that it would be.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Like me, because I think that I'm thinking, you're so
used to doing it the traditional way and then you're
going to go and use a robot.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Well, the beautiful thing about the DaVinci is is Vinci.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Name, it's actually like doing old fashioned surgery because we
use needle drivers, we use souture inside and I sew
with my hands. I just happen to be used in
a set of joysticks. It's so much different and so
much more poite precise than laparoscopy.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It actually sounds really cool.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
It is very cool.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, what about you you nervous at first, doctor Cohen.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You know, in in robotics and orthopedics, it's I would say,
it opens up your eyes to more objective data, so
we have numbers that we're working with and what we're
trying to accomplish, so I can't say it was more
nerve wracking. And there are some safety factors built in
based off of how the surveys planned off the cat scan.
So for me, it was an easy transition because it's
(09:40):
really the same operation except when we're making our bone
cuts for knees and hips, we're actually just using a
saw that's attached to an arm. So it's it's, it's
it's for me, it was straightforward.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Pete. We have a phone call, and you know what,
that's a great, great intro to the segment because if
anyone is listening, this is your opportunity to get free
advice from these doctors. If there's anything that you're going
on or going on in your body that you're going through,
call us up at sixty one four eight two one
nine eight eight six six one four eight two one
(10:13):
nine eight eighty six. I don't care if it's your arm,
your shoulder that's feeling wrong, or maybe you think you
have a hernia, whatever the case may be, call us up.
Pete is on the line, and Pete has a question
for you, Doctor Cohen. Go ahead, Pete, you're on the
air with us.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Okay, thank you. It's actually for doctor sever Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Whoa whoao. I know it said doctor Cohen on the screen,
but we're going to go to doctor sever.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Hey, Pete, thanks, I'm your guys. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Deep. So, So, I was diagnosed with an umbilical hernia
a year ago after a uh what do they call
CT scan? I have not done the surgery. I'm looking
for reasons to do the surgery. It's it's been pretty
(11:09):
and the hernia is caused by certain things that I
put in my body. Alcohol I'm not a heavy drinker,
but just just on New Year's but or pasta sauce,
you know, he kind of tomato sauce, citrus fruits, dairy.
So I've lived without those things for the last year,
(11:32):
because I'm sure you already know that for our listener's sake.
When I when before I realized what I had, uh,
this hernia would cause not it wasn't painful, but it
would be very uncomfortable. I would have to lay on
my stomach for a good eight hours before what happens
(11:52):
is a bulge in uh forms by my belly button
and it stayed there for like I said, eight hours,
and I finally it'll go away. But it's you know,
it's just rolling out of bed because the bathroom is
very uncomfortable, and the whole time, you know, is just
not a good feeling. So so for the last year,
(12:13):
since I've avoided those trigger things, I had not had
the bults. But you know, of course, I'm getting a
little tired of not being able to put those to
eat and drink those things.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
So hey, Pete, we're going to have you hold on
because we're up against a break. We're actually a minute
out or heavy. But hold on and I'll let doctor
Seafer answer your question as soon as we come back
from that, because they're very good points, and I'm sure
there's a lot of people out there that have that
same situation, So he will answer your question right after this.
We'll be right back everybody. Do you guys ever get
(12:57):
tired of the Christmas music or the Christmas shows that
on every single year? Do you ever get tired of it?
Do you love it?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
We have a little kid, so we don't have.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
An option, but do you ever get tired of it?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I mean, after three months I kind of wear about.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
As well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I don't think I ever get tired of it, just
because Christmas music and Christmas specials, they're all so fun
and meaningful. I don't know. We had a caller for you,
and if you have any hell concern that you would
like to talk to a dock, talk to a dock.
They are in studio right now. You can do that.
Pete called in right before he went to break and
had a lengthy question. You know what the answer is now,
(13:34):
it's about basically, what.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So, Pete, it sounds like you've gotten umbilical hernia. You
probably have some tissue called prepared to neo fat that
has come up through that opening in your abdominalt wall,
and that's what the bulge is. And if it lines
up in the correct space, and you would happen to
increase your intra abdominal pressure by coughing or sneezing or
getting in out of bed or getting in and out
(13:57):
of your car or truck, it might pop through. So
it sounds like it's symptomatic. You know, we'd be happy
to see you in the office and evaluate you and
kind of give you the pros and cons of either
going on without having surgery or deciding to go forward
with surgery.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
But that's uh.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
I do that operation probably twenty thirty times a month.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
He doesn't sleep, Pete, he does, or Pete, thank you
for calling. I hope, I hope that helps you. Does it?
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I mean he said the word problematic, So I think
I'll be reaching out. Yeah, I mean, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Go ahead, we're going to do this at the end
of the hour. Anyway, go ahead if he needs to,
If anyone else is listening, what is the best way
to get a hold of you, doctor receiver?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You can contact our office at six one four five
four four zero zero three two and that'll get you
one of our young ladies in the office and I'll
get you fixed up.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Do you get the number, Pete? You're good? I think
so they just connect.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Zero zero three two.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
This is why we do the show. It's these connections
that matter so much. And you know, talking about connections,
you guys met. How many years ago did you two
first meet?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
It's two thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I was already there.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I mean, I mean, you know, the interesting thing about
this whole thing is that you know, Bill grew up
in Shell Coffee and that's where I started practicing in
two thousand and then he shows up on the doorstep
in two thousand and five, and it's you know, it's like,
you gotta be nice to the kid.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I mean, he lived there.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I gotta be nice to him. I'm the outsider.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
But you know what, you look at Chilicothee and you
look at different communities that you guys both live in
and you work in, and that is I think one
of the things that makes you both so successful. Yeah,
you're great doctors, but I think it's your heart, the
way you care about not just your patients, but your community.
Talk a little bit about why that is so important
to you and why you are so ready to give
(15:54):
back at a drop of a hat.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well, I mean we've talked about this project that Bill
and I have been working on since god knows how long,
but it's coming close now. So you know, there's a
there's a right way and a wrong way to do things.
And when you find somebody in medicine that has a
similar approach as you, and you think you can work
(16:17):
together to build this destination type health care facility for
patients and for the employees, you know, I mean people
don't like to Some people really don't like going to
work and Monday and Sunday night they have that icky
feeling in their belly about what they got to do
on Monday at work.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's not a hernia and it's not a hernia.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And and you know, what we hope to create is
is not only a place where patients enjoy coming and
feel safe and appreciated and recognized, but we want the
employees that work there to have the same feeling.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
And that's really the approach.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
You know, how do you make a facility that focuses
on the patient and the employees at the same time
and then do a good job.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I think your patients and just my gosh, talking to
several ones who we've met through you just feel such
a closeness to you, not just because you're changing their
life for the better, but it's that emotional connection as well.
How important is that to you too, doctor Siver?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Well, it's why we do what we do.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
You know, when I follow Brian's page on Facebook, and
you know, he puts a lot of things out there
and has really dedicated the last four or five years
to trying to push this project across the finish line.
I'm hoping to help him do whatever I can to
do to make sure it gets there. But the people
in our community truly appreciate what he is doing for them.
(17:45):
And even though he lives you always tell me Plain City,
it's I'm not sure it's Plain City.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
That's what he tells me.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
It is.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Even though he lives.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
In Plain City.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
People really gravitate towards Brian and they would claim him
for their own.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Twice on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And why wouldn't you if we had more people in
our lives like the both of you and probably your
wife too, who's sitting in here, but she's staying low key,
off the mic, away from the camera. And I don't
know why she's cuter than a button.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
She is.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I know we were talking about how my sister is
moving into a barn dominium. I'm like, I don't know
if you guys know a barnminium and there, and you said,
what we dominium is. It's kind of a newer thing, though,
isn't it.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Well, we've had ours for almost ten years.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Okay, never mind, we've got we've.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Got a donkey across the road and.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's but what's the best benefit of it.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
It's just a big open space. I don't know. Kids
have the run of it.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You wouldn't think too many doctors have a barn dominium,
but they do.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
They do well.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
You know, Bill's not telling the whole story. I mean,
he's actually a farm or two.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
We first talked to him a couple of years ago.
I think that was the connection. It was really a
cool story.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's funny how many people Bill refers to me that work.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
On his form.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It's just it's an amazing I just.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
They pull something in their shoulder or arm or elbow,
and usually what happens is that Bill sees them doing
something that awkwardly like, they look like they're hurt, and
he has to like it probably happened like four weeks ago,
but he when he sees it, he's like, wait a second,
So you're not lifting right, something's wrong, You're not walking right.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Maybe he just has these people at the barnamdium to
give you business. I'm just kidding. It's possible. Okay, So
what is coming up next? Well, we just talked about Thursdays.
Obviously Thanksgiving Rivia, it's one of our most favorite parts
of the show. We do this every Sunday around three
thirty five and we pick a different topic. We are
talking about Thanksgiving, so it's trivia questions relating to Thanksgiving.
(19:50):
Call us up if you would like to compete. Boots
always loads you up with all kinds of goodies and
gift certificates and roosters, bucks and car washes, things like that.
Six one four eight two one nine eight eighty six
six one four eight two one nine eight eighty six.
You will have both of the duct does to be
your your phone a friend basically, So Jill's a running champion.
(20:12):
We're gonna call Jill or Jill's gonna call in, and
hopefully there's a good connection this week, because we've kind
of had a bad connection last week with Jill's phone.
But anyway, call us up competing against Jill, and let's
be thankful for one another and for rivia or back
in a moment. You're listening to Raw on six' TEN.
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