September 22, 2024 • 19 mins
Mindy and Boots talk with reporter Jack Winsor who is not afriad to ask the important questions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we are so excited to talk to our
next guest. Oh my goodness. He has definitely made a
name for himself as far as being an investigative reporter.
Because if you ever want the truth to be told,
put Jack Winsor on it. And that's who's joining us
right now. Jack, thank you so much for being on
Raw today. And man, kudos to you. You spend a
couple of days in Springfield. Why'd you do that? What
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were you looking for?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well? I did it. First of all, thank you for
choosing me. It's such an honor to be with you
in boots. Just great to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I did it because listen, there are patterns. I look
for patterns. And as Trump said what he said and
jd Vance doubled down on it, the mainstream press went
apoplectic and really made everything in Springfield about cats and
dogs and ducks and geese and so on and so forth.
And then the New York Times spun out a piece
that basically said, the twenty thousand migrants that have rushed
(00:55):
into that community, they've created an economic boon. There was
some bumps, but everything's good. And so when I looked
at that, and then looked at my inbox, direct messages,
text messages, emails from people who live in Springfield. There
was a mismatch between what the press was saying and
(01:16):
what they were reporting. And you know me, I don't
really I mean I shy away from controversy all the time, right,
So that piqued my interest to start.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
So what'd you find?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I found that there's a very complex situation. It's not
about cats, dogs, ducks, or geese. It's about federal policies
that have allowed twenty thousand migrants to come into a community.
Of the census there in twenty twenty was over fifty
eight thousand. So think about that. And this is the
part that many Springfielders have said to me. The press
(01:51):
has made it dark skinned versus light skinned. Almost everyone
that I talked to in Springfield said, I don't care
if they were lily white irishmen from Pennsylvania. That raw
number of people when it is unplanned, and when many
of those people that come they need per capita, higher
(02:11):
levels of assistance, higher levels of integration into the community,
it floods the system. That really is the story, the
federal policies. But then when you start digging a little
bit deeper I mean. And by the way, when I
say federal policies have created challenges, there are sixteen hundred
students that are non English speaking that have been added
to the school system. There are not enough interpreters to
(02:34):
help those students. And look, there's opportunity costs, right, If
you give up a minute here to do something, then
you're doing it over here. And so there are students
who are really maybe falling behind a little bit because
so much attention is being paid to the new students.
That's neither good nor bad. That just is. And government
assistance dollars are going in much higher proportion to the migrants.
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As you can imagine Springfield, an area that is two
times the national poverty rate. You have residents there who
are going, well, wait a minute, we live here, we're citizens,
and the hand up that we're looking for is now
being taken away and given to the migrants. Does that
create animosity?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Probably?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
What I want to ask you a question though you
said there's no dogs, cats, geese, and ducks. But my
wife's family's from Springfield, and I have a few handful
of friends from Springfield. One guy worked for me for
twenty years and I called him and he said, absolutely
there has been sightings at the park of killing ducks
and take.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
What Jack is saying is there's a bigger issue than that.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
No, I know, but is that true to people actually
tell you that before? They said it's are bigger issues
because I've heard many, many different stories from many different
people that they do not cats and dogs.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But they are even got.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The police reports and I've heard nine calls.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, so here, here's the deal. Is it going on?
Going to I'm going to see it up this way.
I'm gonna conte three quick things. Number One, there are
people there who say, yeah, I think it's going on.
There are place reports that have been filed. Just look
at the water. There aren't as many geese or ducks.
But when I tell you, they're afraid to say that
they are because they've been gas lit. If they say
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anything other than essentially this has been an economic boon.
We're grateful to have the patience here. Then they're looked
at as you know, surrogates of Donald Trump at e Vance,
you know, Bernie Marino, xenophobic, racist idiots. That's how they
are treated. That's how they are looked at. So it
is created, you know. I mean, can you imagine We've
(04:33):
all been in relationships and situations where you know you're
being violated, and when you when you cry for help,
the people who are supposed to help you point back
to you and go, how dare you? How dare you complain?
And that is the part that breaks my heart up.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, because no one was listening to the people. I mean,
because these started, these complaints started happening, not just in
the last couple of months, Jack, but it was like
over a year or two ago.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And right, it was over a year or two ago,
maybe even prior. Actually, there were a housing report according
to a letter that the city manager and the mayor
sent to US senators that there was a commission that
was brought together in twenty eighteen to look at housing, which,
by the way, is another significant issue. Where are we
putting all twenty thousand? And it's also created an artificial
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massive increase in rents. I talked to the director of
a soup kitchen there heartbreaking story. He has a friend
who is a veteran of the United States Military disabled,
doesn't want to buy a house because he doesn't want
to mold lawn and do the upkeep, so he rents well,
the landlord raised the rent to go with the current
market rent value, and so hypothetically speaking, it goes from
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six hundred to fifteen hundred. And the guy says, I'm
on fixed income, I can't pay that. He gets evicted
and that's happening. So that's another out negative outcome. And
then you have the job market. We hear that the
migrants are here to take the jobs. I talked to
some folks on the street who said, yeah, they tell
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us that, but if we go in to apply for
it and we're not migrants, we don't get the jobs.
So there's a lot of complexity going on, or there
are a lot of complex situations, and you know it
really and I want to I want to point this
out to both of you. It's really important. We talked
and I mean dozens, I talked to dozens of people,
including Asians, and the one thing that I've heard is
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that there is a care and concern across both cultures,
and particularly Springfield. People who go we actually are were
heartbroken for the Haitians. They're dumped from a third world
environment into a first world environment and expected to know
how to drive, how to act, how to speak, to
react to help them.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So can you hang with us for the next couple
of segments because we still have so many questions for
you wonder them. I really want to know are they
here legally or illegally? And I want your take on
the vague Ramaswami's town hall. You were there. I watched
the entire thing and there were so many things that
came out of that that I was shocked to hear.
But we also have a caller coming up, and I
(07:02):
want her to tell you her story, something that she's
witnessed firsthand as a mail carrier in Licking County, and
I want to get your take on.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
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Speaker 1 (07:17):
All right, we're back with investigative reporter Jack Windsor. And
you know they're just flashing up on the screen how
Trump won't debate again, and how Harris wants another debate
on CNN. You know what, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
He's done a.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Debate on CNN, He's done a debate on ABC. She
won't debate on Fox. You know what, I don't blame him.
I wouldn't debate anymore either, because he's in a no
win situation.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And he needs to get accepted. He'll go on on
Fox and see what she says.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well, they have she won't do it. Do you imagine
her being middle class?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You knows she grew up middle class town. I've heard
that a time, middle class chown.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So Jack, we're so glad you're with us, because if
anyone gets to the bottom of any situation, it's you.
And we have a situation we're talking about, of course Springfield,
because you spent a couple of days there and really
got to the meat of the sea situation and talk
to people. It's boots on the ground, you really were.
But we're going to join this conversation with a mail
carrier here in central Ohio because she's noticing something with
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immigrants who have moved here and absentee ballots. We can't
mention her name because she wants to keep her job,
So for the sake of things, let's just call her Julie.
Julie Ohio mail lady. So, Julie, we're gonna call you.
Can you explain your situation? To our listeners and to
Jack Windsor. I want her, I want him to hear
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your story and just it's kind of appalling and shocking.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Yes, thank you so much. So when somebody new moves
them into the neighborhood and it's a it's a you know,
it's it's always the immigrants, they will send them a first,
they'll send them a US Census for everybody and that
you know, for the home, and then within a week
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or two, then we're delivering, uh, the ballot registrations for
everybody that's in the home.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Wow, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
There's five or more adults, you know in each home.
There tends to be a lot of families that move
into one home. But yeah, it's almost automatic. First, I'll
first they'll get the census and then they'll turn around
and get the you know, the ballot registration.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But you're already doing this.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
For the immigrant families. Yes, that's what surprises.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
One census to anybody knew that you know has come from.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Here and Jack and Jack, she's taken this message. You
reported this, right.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I did, Yes, I I reported it to the state.
The woman was very rude, said that that that you know,
I needed I didn't need to worry about it. I
also reported it to Lincoln County. They I got a
little bit further there. Somebody was going to call me back,
and then I never got a return.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Wow. Do you believe that these people are legal or illegal?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I believe they are illegal. I actually spoke with one.
Usually there's one that will speak English in the household.
What nine times out of ten, it's somebody younger. But
they told me they had just moved here. They were
not they were not here.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, but yet, Jack, they're getting absentee ballots. What do
you make of this this?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, it's it's a fiasco. And I've talked with Frank
LeRose at nauseum on these issues. I've reported on them,
I've had folks on my radio show to discuss them.
Ohio has some gaps in its voter integrity laws. One
of them is non citizens getting on the voter rules,
and we could talk about that, by the way, we
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could spend an hour on this topic. The other one
is when people register, if there's a mismatch in information
on their voter registration form, they go into what's called
active confirmation status. Those folks can request absentee ballots. They
can vote provisionally. And so we had talked to Frank
LeRose based on our investigative reports, and said, can we
get all active confirmation status voters the provisional ballots that
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they then have to come in and prove with a
foot ID that they're citizens before those votes are counted,
and can we stop putting non citizens on the voter
rule as well. Frank listened. He wrote a letter to
the Ohio General Assembly asking for both of those things
to be done. I think they'll both be done in
the lame duck session. The challenge is, I'm not sure
that they're both going to be done this election cycle.
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So it's really important for boards of election in each
county and in each precinct to make sure that the
forms that they're getting are backed up with all of
the valid ID requirements in order for those to be
put into the database and listed as either an active
confirmation status voter or a fully qualified elector.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So she really can't do anything else. She's made a
couple of phone calls or it seems like just falling
on daffiars well, I will.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
What I'd like to do is, if it's okay, I'd
like to when we're done, Mindy or Boots, I'll send
you my contact credentials. Julie, you can call me and
I have Frank on the show tomorrow. I had been
talking with this team on a weekly basis almost, and
so I will take that information to him and say,
what are we going to do about this or what
safeguards are in place to make sure that non qualified
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electors are not voting in this election.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
She's not really, Julie.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We know that.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'm going to give her your information, Julie, Julie, you
were going to say something.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Were we going to say?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Yes? Another thing is just more recently, they're like, I'm
delivering a Licking County absentee ballot form to a home
and at the same time in the in the exact
same name, also a Franklin County. Yeah, it's amazing, and
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there was a lot of them. Just yesterday there was
thirty plus.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Julie, I heard this too. I heard that if if.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
You move out of your house and you are a
registered Democrat, that they will still see even though you
forward your mail, they're still sending the absentee ballot to
that house because the person living there and I say
his name is Bob Well John used to live there,
John moved, but then John moved to Georgia or whatever.
But you're still getting John's absentee ballots.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, but there would be a forward in Okay, these
do not have forwards.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Ask the question.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So one of the things that caused a lot of
confusion and certainly and understandably a lot of anxiety is
absentee ballots versus absentee ballot applications. The absentee ballot app applications.
We have evidence of those being sent. For example, we
moved into our home and we've received absentee ballot applications
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from people who have maybe been inactive on the voter rules,
who used to live in the home that we purchased.
But it's just the application, so it's not necessarily the ballot.
Are you saying that what they're receiving is an application
or their truly absentee ballots?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Do you know these the ones that were just yesterday
were absentee ballots applications?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
All right, yeah, you're going to go to break, Jack.
I want you to stick around for one more segment. Julie,
so cold, Julie, I'm going to get you in touch
with Jack. He's the one who's going to handle absolutely.
I'm so glad that you shared your story. You're brave.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Julie did me a favor. I'm gonna you We'll put
you on hold. I want to get your information. I'm
gonna send you some goodies for put taking some time
on on your something.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
The mails kind of slow, it may take a while.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. All right, this is Raw Midian
Boots on News radio six ten WTV.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
All Right, Jack, we so appreciate you hanging around with us.
So I know there's a lot of commercials in there
today and we apologize for that. We only have about
three minutes left. But a couple of key questions for you,
because I've heard both things. The Haitians in Springfield, are
they legal? Are they illegal? And then we just got
a message from one of our listeners and they want
to ask you who paid for the transport of the
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Haitians tool I.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I want to answer the transport question first, and I'll
try to be very brief because I know we're short
on time. We're digging into that. We believe that it
could be paid for by sponsors. Will kind of bled
into the first question Those sponsors can be businesses, nonprofit organizations,
or other entities that sponsor the bringing of the migrants
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here to Ohio and into the United States. So we're
going to continue to dig This is very, very complex,
and I mean that, and we're going to do our
best to uncover answers to that question and anymore. Are
they here legally in a very broad sense, yes, they
may have something that's called the temporary protected status. If
you remember back in twenty ten when there was the
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massive earthquake that rocked Haiti, they were allowed to come
here under temporary protected status that was intended to be
six to eighteen months. That had that had been extended
through the Biden administration, and Trump eventually tried to put
the moratorium down and say, look, if you are here
from Haiti, you need to make preparations to go back.
We are going to take away the temporary protected status.
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And oh, by the way, if you want migrants to
come to the country, governors of each state have to
sign a letter that says they will accept them. Done.
Find that letter, by the way. And many people are
trying to pin this on him. I don't think it
directly gets penned on him. That's a story for another day,
but that executive order by Trump was contested in court,
and that legal wrangling really ran the clock out on it.
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Biden comes into office and says, look, the Haitians, along
with several others Cubans, Haitians, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, they can have
temporary protected status. But if you're one of the four
people groups that I just mentioned, they also created what
is called a parole program that allows citizens from those
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countries to come here for up to two years. Now,
when you look at the broad language of the permissions,
essentially anyone in a third world country could come to
the United States. I think that that's where many of
the Haitians are coming from my conversation with Congressman Jim
Jordan on Friday of last week, he said, look, in
addition to the ten million people that have come across
our border during the Harris Biden administration, we believe that
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five hundred thousand of them have come based on this
program that I just described, a parole program, and that's
the one that I think has brought Haitians to Springfield. Again,
that parole program would allow someone here, maybe somebody from
Haiti to bring people because they can sponsor and go
online and fill out a form, or it could be
a business, an entity or some type of other organization
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like a nonprofit. Well, you know, but that's how they're
coming in.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You know what, Jack, you can say what you want
about Donald Trump, former President Trump. It's really all thanks
to him that this whole thing has come to light.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Amen, I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
If he wouldn't have said that on debate stage, what
he said, these poor people would still be getting no answers.
They're at least getting resources now because it's been out
there in the public eye for the world to see.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Wow, that's awesome. Hey, we can't.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
We appreciate your time, and I know we had a
lot of breaks and we're going to try to fix
that because we just sent some emails I did.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
But anyway, thank you for.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Exposing You got to give him some real news. Yeah,
we'll give you rooster bucks. That's right, your local. We'll
put you on hold, tell us the address you'll get
in about six weeks and May I'll put mail.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I'll stam up at mail in ballot and you'll get
it tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Seriously, talking to Jack Windsor you can hear him on
the radio as well, and my gosh, you've got the
publication that just is exploiting so many things and getting
to the truth of the matter. Will you join us
again sometime, Jack.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I will. I hope today was meaningful. I know iacked
a lot, like from a fire hose. I hope it
was helpful.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No. No, you are real news.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
You are real news, and we really we need about
thousand more of you out there.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Oh my gosh, because that bothers me so much. Jack.
When I don't hear reporters ask tough questions, they just
accept what all the political figures are telling them.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, they just accept.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
It and don't question.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I learned that's a no note during COVID Jack.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I know that's how you got how they get hold
of you, Jack real quick.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Before we go to break uh x at Jack windsor
uh and then read our news and information at the
Ohio Pressnetwork dot com. And I won't pitch my radio
show out of respect for your station.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, I know, Okay, you can do the other things.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Just put a posts on my Facebook page and well
I don't care, so I pay for my We pay
for all the time.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, this is rob I love Mark and Josh and
I love you too as well.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Keep fighting the fight, all right, Rob Many of Boots
on news Radio six ten w TV
All right, we are so excited to talk to our
next guest. Oh my goodness. He has definitely made a
name for himself as far as being an investigative reporter.
Because if you ever want the truth to be told,
put Jack Winsor on it. And that's who's joining us
right now. Jack, thank you so much for being on
Raw today. And man, kudos to you. You spend a
couple of days in Springfield. Why'd you do that? What
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were you looking for?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well? I did it. First of all, thank you for
choosing me. It's such an honor to be with you
in boots. Just great to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I did it because listen, there are patterns. I look
for patterns. And as Trump said what he said and
jd Vance doubled down on it, the mainstream press went
apoplectic and really made everything in Springfield about cats and
dogs and ducks and geese and so on and so forth.
And then the New York Times spun out a piece
that basically said, the twenty thousand migrants that have rushed
(00:55):
into that community, they've created an economic boon. There was
some bumps, but everything's good. And so when I looked
at that, and then looked at my inbox, direct messages,
text messages, emails from people who live in Springfield. There
was a mismatch between what the press was saying and
(01:16):
what they were reporting. And you know me, I don't
really I mean I shy away from controversy all the time, right,
So that piqued my interest to start.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
So what'd you find?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I found that there's a very complex situation. It's not
about cats, dogs, ducks, or geese. It's about federal policies
that have allowed twenty thousand migrants to come into a community.
Of the census there in twenty twenty was over fifty
eight thousand. So think about that. And this is the
part that many Springfielders have said to me. The press
(01:51):
has made it dark skinned versus light skinned. Almost everyone
that I talked to in Springfield said, I don't care
if they were lily white irishmen from Pennsylvania. That raw
number of people when it is unplanned, and when many
of those people that come they need per capita, higher
(02:11):
levels of assistance, higher levels of integration into the community,
it floods the system. That really is the story, the
federal policies. But then when you start digging a little
bit deeper I mean. And by the way, when I
say federal policies have created challenges, there are sixteen hundred
students that are non English speaking that have been added
to the school system. There are not enough interpreters to
(02:34):
help those students. And look, there's opportunity costs, right, If
you give up a minute here to do something, then
you're doing it over here. And so there are students
who are really maybe falling behind a little bit because
so much attention is being paid to the new students.
That's neither good nor bad. That just is. And government
assistance dollars are going in much higher proportion to the migrants.
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As you can imagine Springfield, an area that is two
times the national poverty rate. You have residents there who
are going, well, wait a minute, we live here, we're citizens,
and the hand up that we're looking for is now
being taken away and given to the migrants. Does that
create animosity?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Probably?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
What I want to ask you a question though you
said there's no dogs, cats, geese, and ducks. But my
wife's family's from Springfield, and I have a few handful
of friends from Springfield. One guy worked for me for
twenty years and I called him and he said, absolutely
there has been sightings at the park of killing ducks
and take.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
What Jack is saying is there's a bigger issue than that.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
No, I know, but is that true to people actually
tell you that before? They said it's are bigger issues
because I've heard many, many different stories from many different
people that they do not cats and dogs.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But they are even got.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
The police reports and I've heard nine calls.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, so here, here's the deal. Is it going on?
Going to I'm going to see it up this way.
I'm gonna conte three quick things. Number One, there are
people there who say, yeah, I think it's going on.
There are place reports that have been filed. Just look
at the water. There aren't as many geese or ducks.
But when I tell you, they're afraid to say that
they are because they've been gas lit. If they say
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anything other than essentially this has been an economic boon.
We're grateful to have the patience here. Then they're looked
at as you know, surrogates of Donald Trump at e Vance,
you know, Bernie Marino, xenophobic, racist idiots. That's how they
are treated. That's how they are looked at. So it
is created, you know. I mean, can you imagine We've
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all been in relationships and situations where you know you're
being violated, and when you when you cry for help,
the people who are supposed to help you point back
to you and go, how dare you? How dare you complain?
And that is the part that breaks my heart up.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, because no one was listening to the people. I mean,
because these started, these complaints started happening, not just in
the last couple of months, Jack, but it was like
over a year or two ago.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And right, it was over a year or two ago,
maybe even prior. Actually, there were a housing report according
to a letter that the city manager and the mayor
sent to US senators that there was a commission that
was brought together in twenty eighteen to look at housing, which,
by the way, is another significant issue. Where are we
putting all twenty thousand? And it's also created an artificial
(05:17):
massive increase in rents. I talked to the director of
a soup kitchen there heartbreaking story. He has a friend
who is a veteran of the United States Military disabled,
doesn't want to buy a house because he doesn't want
to mold lawn and do the upkeep, so he rents well,
the landlord raised the rent to go with the current
market rent value, and so hypothetically speaking, it goes from
(05:39):
six hundred to fifteen hundred. And the guy says, I'm
on fixed income, I can't pay that. He gets evicted
and that's happening. So that's another out negative outcome. And
then you have the job market. We hear that the
migrants are here to take the jobs. I talked to
some folks on the street who said, yeah, they tell
(06:00):
us that, but if we go in to apply for
it and we're not migrants, we don't get the jobs.
So there's a lot of complexity going on, or there
are a lot of complex situations, and you know it
really and I want to I want to point this
out to both of you. It's really important. We talked
and I mean dozens, I talked to dozens of people,
including Asians, and the one thing that I've heard is
(06:23):
that there is a care and concern across both cultures,
and particularly Springfield. People who go we actually are were
heartbroken for the Haitians. They're dumped from a third world
environment into a first world environment and expected to know
how to drive, how to act, how to speak, to
react to help them.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So can you hang with us for the next couple
of segments because we still have so many questions for
you wonder them. I really want to know are they
here legally or illegally? And I want your take on
the vague Ramaswami's town hall. You were there. I watched
the entire thing and there were so many things that
came out of that that I was shocked to hear.
But we also have a caller coming up, and I
(07:02):
want her to tell you her story, something that she's
witnessed firsthand as a mail carrier in Licking County, and
I want to get your take on.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
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Speaker 1 (07:17):
All right, we're back with investigative reporter Jack Windsor. And
you know they're just flashing up on the screen how
Trump won't debate again, and how Harris wants another debate
on CNN. You know what, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
He's done a.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Debate on CNN, He's done a debate on ABC. She
won't debate on Fox. You know what, I don't blame him.
I wouldn't debate anymore either, because he's in a no
win situation.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And he needs to get accepted. He'll go on on
Fox and see what she says.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well, they have she won't do it. Do you imagine
her being middle class?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You knows she grew up middle class town. I've heard
that a time, middle class chown.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So Jack, we're so glad you're with us, because if
anyone gets to the bottom of any situation, it's you.
And we have a situation we're talking about, of course Springfield,
because you spent a couple of days there and really
got to the meat of the sea situation and talk
to people. It's boots on the ground, you really were.
But we're going to join this conversation with a mail
carrier here in central Ohio because she's noticing something with
(08:11):
immigrants who have moved here and absentee ballots. We can't
mention her name because she wants to keep her job,
So for the sake of things, let's just call her Julie.
Julie Ohio mail lady. So, Julie, we're gonna call you.
Can you explain your situation? To our listeners and to
Jack Windsor. I want her, I want him to hear
(08:32):
your story and just it's kind of appalling and shocking.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Yes, thank you so much. So when somebody new moves
them into the neighborhood and it's a it's a you know,
it's it's always the immigrants, they will send them a first,
they'll send them a US Census for everybody and that
you know, for the home, and then within a week
(08:57):
or two, then we're delivering, uh, the ballot registrations for
everybody that's in the home.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Wow, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
There's five or more adults, you know in each home.
There tends to be a lot of families that move
into one home. But yeah, it's almost automatic. First, I'll
first they'll get the census and then they'll turn around
and get the you know, the ballot registration.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But you're already doing this.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
For the immigrant families. Yes, that's what surprises.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
One census to anybody knew that you know has come from.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Here and Jack and Jack, she's taken this message. You
reported this, right.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I did, Yes, I I reported it to the state.
The woman was very rude, said that that that you know,
I needed I didn't need to worry about it. I
also reported it to Lincoln County. They I got a
little bit further there. Somebody was going to call me back,
and then I never got a return.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Wow. Do you believe that these people are legal or illegal?
Speaker 5 (10:03):
I believe they are illegal. I actually spoke with one.
Usually there's one that will speak English in the household.
What nine times out of ten, it's somebody younger. But
they told me they had just moved here. They were
not they were not here.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, but yet, Jack, they're getting absentee ballots. What do
you make of this this?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, it's it's a fiasco. And I've talked with Frank
LeRose at nauseum on these issues. I've reported on them,
I've had folks on my radio show to discuss them.
Ohio has some gaps in its voter integrity laws. One
of them is non citizens getting on the voter rules,
and we could talk about that, by the way, we
(10:46):
could spend an hour on this topic. The other one
is when people register, if there's a mismatch in information
on their voter registration form, they go into what's called
active confirmation status. Those folks can request absentee ballots. They
can vote provisionally. And so we had talked to Frank
LeRose based on our investigative reports, and said, can we
get all active confirmation status voters the provisional ballots that
(11:08):
they then have to come in and prove with a
foot ID that they're citizens before those votes are counted,
and can we stop putting non citizens on the voter
rule as well. Frank listened. He wrote a letter to
the Ohio General Assembly asking for both of those things
to be done. I think they'll both be done in
the lame duck session. The challenge is, I'm not sure
that they're both going to be done this election cycle.
(11:29):
So it's really important for boards of election in each
county and in each precinct to make sure that the
forms that they're getting are backed up with all of
the valid ID requirements in order for those to be
put into the database and listed as either an active
confirmation status voter or a fully qualified elector.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So she really can't do anything else. She's made a
couple of phone calls or it seems like just falling
on daffiars well, I will.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
What I'd like to do is, if it's okay, I'd
like to when we're done, Mindy or Boots, I'll send
you my contact credentials. Julie, you can call me and
I have Frank on the show tomorrow. I had been
talking with this team on a weekly basis almost, and
so I will take that information to him and say,
what are we going to do about this or what
safeguards are in place to make sure that non qualified
(12:22):
electors are not voting in this election.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
She's not really, Julie.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
We know that.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'm going to give her your information, Julie, Julie, you
were going to say something.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Were we going to say?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Yes? Another thing is just more recently, they're like, I'm
delivering a Licking County absentee ballot form to a home
and at the same time in the in the exact
same name, also a Franklin County. Yeah, it's amazing, and
(12:54):
there was a lot of them. Just yesterday there was
thirty plus.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Julie, I heard this too. I heard that if if.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
You move out of your house and you are a
registered Democrat, that they will still see even though you
forward your mail, they're still sending the absentee ballot to
that house because the person living there and I say
his name is Bob Well John used to live there,
John moved, but then John moved to Georgia or whatever.
But you're still getting John's absentee ballots.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Yeah, but there would be a forward in Okay, these
do not have forwards.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Ask the question.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So one of the things that caused a lot of
confusion and certainly and understandably a lot of anxiety is
absentee ballots versus absentee ballot applications. The absentee ballot app applications.
We have evidence of those being sent. For example, we
moved into our home and we've received absentee ballot applications
(13:50):
from people who have maybe been inactive on the voter rules,
who used to live in the home that we purchased.
But it's just the application, so it's not necessarily the ballot.
Are you saying that what they're receiving is an application
or their truly absentee ballots?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Do you know these the ones that were just yesterday
were absentee ballots applications?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
All right, yeah, you're going to go to break, Jack.
I want you to stick around for one more segment. Julie,
so cold, Julie, I'm going to get you in touch
with Jack. He's the one who's going to handle absolutely.
I'm so glad that you shared your story. You're brave.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Julie did me a favor. I'm gonna you We'll put
you on hold. I want to get your information. I'm
gonna send you some goodies for put taking some time
on on your something.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
The mails kind of slow, it may take a while.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, thank you. All right, this is Raw Midian
Boots on News radio six ten WTV.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
All Right, Jack, we so appreciate you hanging around with us.
So I know there's a lot of commercials in there
today and we apologize for that. We only have about
three minutes left. But a couple of key questions for you,
because I've heard both things. The Haitians in Springfield, are
they legal? Are they illegal? And then we just got
a message from one of our listeners and they want
to ask you who paid for the transport of the
(14:59):
Haitians tool I.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I want to answer the transport question first, and I'll
try to be very brief because I know we're short
on time. We're digging into that. We believe that it
could be paid for by sponsors. Will kind of bled
into the first question Those sponsors can be businesses, nonprofit organizations,
or other entities that sponsor the bringing of the migrants
(15:25):
here to Ohio and into the United States. So we're
going to continue to dig This is very, very complex,
and I mean that, and we're going to do our
best to uncover answers to that question and anymore. Are
they here legally in a very broad sense, yes, they
may have something that's called the temporary protected status. If
you remember back in twenty ten when there was the
(15:45):
massive earthquake that rocked Haiti, they were allowed to come
here under temporary protected status that was intended to be
six to eighteen months. That had that had been extended
through the Biden administration, and Trump eventually tried to put
the moratorium down and say, look, if you are here
from Haiti, you need to make preparations to go back.
We are going to take away the temporary protected status.
(16:07):
And oh, by the way, if you want migrants to
come to the country, governors of each state have to
sign a letter that says they will accept them. Done.
Find that letter, by the way. And many people are
trying to pin this on him. I don't think it
directly gets penned on him. That's a story for another day,
but that executive order by Trump was contested in court,
and that legal wrangling really ran the clock out on it.
(16:31):
Biden comes into office and says, look, the Haitians, along
with several others Cubans, Haitians, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, they can have
temporary protected status. But if you're one of the four
people groups that I just mentioned, they also created what
is called a parole program that allows citizens from those
(16:51):
countries to come here for up to two years. Now,
when you look at the broad language of the permissions,
essentially anyone in a third world country could come to
the United States. I think that that's where many of
the Haitians are coming from my conversation with Congressman Jim
Jordan on Friday of last week, he said, look, in
addition to the ten million people that have come across
our border during the Harris Biden administration, we believe that
(17:12):
five hundred thousand of them have come based on this
program that I just described, a parole program, and that's
the one that I think has brought Haitians to Springfield. Again,
that parole program would allow someone here, maybe somebody from
Haiti to bring people because they can sponsor and go
online and fill out a form, or it could be
a business, an entity or some type of other organization
(17:34):
like a nonprofit. Well, you know, but that's how they're
coming in.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
You know what, Jack, you can say what you want
about Donald Trump, former President Trump. It's really all thanks
to him that this whole thing has come to light.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Amen, I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
If he wouldn't have said that on debate stage, what
he said, these poor people would still be getting no answers.
They're at least getting resources now because it's been out
there in the public eye for the world to see.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Wow, that's awesome. Hey, we can't.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
We appreciate your time, and I know we had a
lot of breaks and we're going to try to fix
that because we just sent some emails I did.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
But anyway, thank you for.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Exposing You got to give him some real news. Yeah,
we'll give you rooster bucks. That's right, your local. We'll
put you on hold, tell us the address you'll get
in about six weeks and May I'll put mail.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I'll stam up at mail in ballot and you'll get
it tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Seriously, talking to Jack Windsor you can hear him on
the radio as well, and my gosh, you've got the
publication that just is exploiting so many things and getting
to the truth of the matter. Will you join us
again sometime, Jack.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I will. I hope today was meaningful. I know iacked
a lot, like from a fire hose. I hope it
was helpful.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No. No, you are real news.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
You are real news, and we really we need about
thousand more of you out there.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Oh my gosh, because that bothers me so much. Jack.
When I don't hear reporters ask tough questions, they just
accept what all the political figures are telling them.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, they just accept.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
It and don't question.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I learned that's a no note during COVID Jack.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I know that's how you got how they get hold
of you, Jack real quick.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Before we go to break uh x at Jack windsor
uh and then read our news and information at the
Ohio Pressnetwork dot com. And I won't pitch my radio
show out of respect for your station.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, I know, Okay, you can do the other things.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Just put a posts on my Facebook page and well
I don't care, so I pay for my We pay
for all the time.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, this is rob I love Mark and Josh and
I love you too as well.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Keep fighting the fight, all right, Rob Many of Boots
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