April 27, 2025 • 17 mins
Robert Cooperman and Boots discuss bragging vs. proudness with Boots!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Sunday afternoon, and Mindy's not here, but we're
glad she's not here because she's the last game for
Cammi at a high State. So Mindy's an absolute wreck
right now. Guarantee, Robert, then Robert, now you're Robert Coopman
is filling her big panties, I say, shoes. But she
(00:22):
is a girl. She does identify her pronoun as a female.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
She does.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
She is a lady.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, she's a girl, she's a woman, a lady.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I don't know about that. But anyway, she's she's a
high state's last game today and it's it's parents Senior
Day and all that, and I guarantee she's a wreck.
And and you know, on Facebook the other day, I
got a segue into this. My buddy, he he came
from nothing. He lived in Section eight housing and uh
(00:52):
mark is just he was an upstanding guy, got a
college football scholarship, He married a professional lady. Now he
lives in a beautiful home. He had two ran aw
BMW's and the girl we posted on Facebook that basically,
I'm not bragging, but I'm a boy from the Section
eight housing and I made it in life. And I
said to him. I got on here and I said,
you know what, us who made it from in life
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or something. We're not bragging, We're just proud. It's okay.
And I get that a lot about my cars. Yes,
when I moved the clumb, you know I were tod you.
I moved the clumbs with ten dollars in my wallet, No,
a jcpenny charge card with three hundredar limit and a
full tank of gas.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And I remember my first week on the job, I
had to make money for gas. So the moral of
the story is I became the lunch manager. I made
this job up and I went around to all the
other salespeople and said, everybody, give me five bucks and
I'll go to McDonald's for you. Well McDonald's back then,
I was like three fifty or something. Yeah, So I
made I made on twenty salespeople. I netted twenty two bucks.
(01:48):
About wow, and they said, where's my change. I said,
I go, I fly, you buy, and that's it. So
I'd buy my lunch and I'd fill my tank. So
my first month before I got my first commission check,
that's how I did it. When I show off my cars,
boom well and Mindy, she's raided this raised his beautiful,
smart athletic. Everybody's give me a little girls, look up
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the CAMMI. Andy's proud. Yeah too. But but Mindy's so
proud and and some people so she brags about her daughter. Well,
wouldn't you. Yeah, she's proud.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Her daughter has many, many important and great accomplishments. Yes,
and I think that's not bragging. That's proud. That's proud. Yeah,
any parent would. It's okay to be proud.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I don't like the world where we make over losers
more than winners. It's like, well, he's on drugs and
he didn't really mean to be that's and he didn't
really his life circumstances. He didn't mean to rape and
kill that family. He was just misunderstood or and that
seems to be the twinkies. Yeah. I was visiting a
(02:52):
good friend of mine. He's in prison, and and I
drove down a Noble county. We went down with my
good friend Nick Pope and his wife and my buddy
got wrongfully indicted. It was in the Zoo debacle. But
I went down to visit him, and coming back, I
stopped at Ruby Tuesdays. There's still one in Cambridge A lot. Yeah.
I love the best salad bar ever in my opinion.
(03:15):
So I go into Ruby Tuesdays and there's a girl
from Barnesille Shamrocks High School a softball. The girl looked rindy,
A came a lot bright red hair though, and I
went over her dad and I said, hey, I said,
I do the Barnzill Corsha every year. He goes, oh really,
He goes, oh, yeah, your boots. I said yeah, and
I said she' a friend of fan of Cammi cortter Cracks.
He goes, you kidding me? My daughter loves Cammi quarter Cracks.
(03:38):
This is an hour and a half east of Columbus.
And this little girl lit up like a Christmas tree.
She say, oh my god, I know that. They started
telling me her averages. They started. So this is a
little girl from a small coal mine Appalachia town hour
and a half away aka eighty five ninety miles away
that Cammi quarter Cracks has made her her hero. And
(04:00):
I am that that makes my day. And I said, well,
she's like my god daughter. You know. I had to
suck it up a little bit and make sure I
was important. No, I was. I was like man, I said,
And you know what, She's as wonderful in person as
she is on the high stage.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I've only heard tell about her.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
My fantasy for her is her be on ESPN. ESPN.
I think she could rock it out because her dad
is a huge athlete that just football, basketball, baseball, just
another stud She grew up around it, so I think ESPN.
What was the girl that they were shooting naked pictures
up through the hotel lobby? Was that her name? I
(04:39):
was never found guilty Aaron Andrews. She's a hundred times
better than andrew You didn't hear about that. One took
the the thing you look through the door to see
it at your door, and you put a camera in
there and filmed her naked.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Really? Oh, she got the size.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
She sued the hotel company and got big check for that. Wow,
I'm thinking, heck, I'll show my package for free half
the time. You know, I'm not gonna You don't really
think I'm want to touch that. I'm not going to
touch it. In many ways, I don't want you to
touch it. No, you're not my type, thank you. Yeah,
you don't like a negative? So how was your So
how when we get back we talk about your stage
right theater? Did you you had one hundred show up
(05:17):
in a little building? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, with the alterative scene. That's what it's all about,
the Theatre of Dublin.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's right. We had.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We had a recent show which celebrated the talent and
artistry of Eugene O'Neil, the America's first important playwright.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You were you were acting in this one right, No, no,
I directed you direct?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I directed one of them.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You're like a crew chief in racing. That okay, I
know nothing about racing, but there's a crew chief that
keeps the car right. So when we get back, I
want to ask you the stress levels you go through?
Okay with prima don actors, great actors, Uh, worrying if
the fans liked you, and all the all the anxiety
that you probably go through. So okay, we're going to
take a break. When we get back, we're more with
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Robert Cooperman and wishing mandyp Cammy. Yeah, I'm terrible names.
Anybody wish cany to kick some but a short stop
for highest state and she's in a history books already.
We'll touch on that later on. The show. This is
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Radio six ten w TV in we're like talking on break.
So before we went on break, I was telling Robert
Cooperman from Stage right Theatrics that was her names. I
name you huh at Theatrics Theatric stage right Diatrick. That
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sounds really I can't spell that, but you don't have to,
just have to say it. So racing my whole life,
and everybody knows I'm a car nut, but my nerves
when I help on Jake's race team or even my
own race teams over the years, my nerves are shot.
And the night before I think about that, I cross
all my t's and thought all my eyes as the
car ready is. So when I quist that over to you,
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as a director and owner of a stage right Theatrics,
you what the night before you're nervous?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like what goes to your head?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well, you know you have to realize that Number one,
if you're going to direct or produce some particular theater
in any in any location. You're putting yourself out there, right,
I mean you're responsible for what goes on on stage.
It's not just that you're paying for it, You're you're
responsible for it. And you know, think about me. I
am putting on plays of a certain type with a
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certain political point of view that is the anathema of
everything else that goes on artistically.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
The opposite.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you would like, and
and so not only am I putting myself out just
in general, I'm putting myself out there and taking a
real risk. You know, are people going to embrace this?
Are people going to condemn it? And both happens, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay, So if you had someone come up to you
go and I think this is ridiculous and you should
have brought now.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Oh I've had that through social media. Yeah, I've had
anonymous letters in the mail.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, I get those all the time. I love those,
I know, but I'm sending them jellyfish. If you've got
something problems, say anything, come to my face. I'm like,
I can't punch you anymore like the old days. I
could send ag. Are you done? Now? You can go
after some exactly, but I mean they what they say, like, oh,
you know, I get accused of you Trump supporting blah
blah blah. You know you and you you hate people,
(08:27):
You're a hater, you know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Really, you know, and I understand what the Trump supported.
I like Trump, so don't get me wrong. I'm not
going to tell you I don't like Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
But he's a bonehead sometimes. Oh of course, I mean
he says stuff I go, oh boy, yeah, yeah, maybe,
I said. You know, it's a stretch, but my theater
company exists irrelevant too, whether Trump is in office or not.
You know, this is what we believe in. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I was once interviewed by a newspaper, a local newspaper.
I'm not going to mention the name, but it's a
local newspaper, you know. And uh and you know all
the ones that have out there, so you could probably
figure out which one this is. But they wanted to
talk to me and vet me before they would write
anything about me, you know, put in anything about my shows.
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So they called me up and they want to take news,
of course, and I said, I said, you know, look,
I'll tell you anything you want to know about my company.
But are you doing this with other companies as well?
Are you vetting all the companies in town and as well?
We don't know you. And the fact of the matter is,
prior to that point, for five or six years, they
had put things in the paper about me, so you know,
(09:30):
this was this was just a ruse. They wanted to
find out. One of the questions they asked me was
did your theater company come about because of Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Said?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Hidding, I said, who, It's not coming about because Donald
Trump descended the escalator at his hotel in twenty fifteen. Yeah,
I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So so mentally disturbing to me. Yeah, it's like, what's
wrong with you people? I mean, they just can't take
it if you give them facts, if you you even
improve them. I said, well, well no, it's it's fact.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
They're all they're all amateur and they think they're professional,
but amateurs psychologists, right, you know, they really think they
know what's going on in your head and my head
and Trump's head. They know exactly what what our plot is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Do you know what the YMCA stands for and what
they're your curve?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Why MC young Men's Catholic Association Okay. Do you know
we had a caller call in I'm not verify this, okay,
but he called in open phones yesterday and he informed
me that it's okay for transgender men to use the
women's facilities at the YMCA.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
This.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, first of all, I have to ask you, this
was on autosmarts.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
No open phones thing is oh okay. But what I'm
getting at is so many people are offended, but we're
not allowed to be offended. If my wife and daughters
in a shower at the y m c A or
any place for that matter, and a dude walks in
that identified as a female, right, but nobody complains about that.
(11:03):
And the same people that are writing you letters have
probably never been any of your place, oh never, And
they're just assuming.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
No that that's the thing. That's what I'm saying. They're
all psychologists because they're all thinking they know what's going on.
They I don't have to see one of his shows.
I know what's going on. Yeah, and they don't. And
people who work with us know that we are welcoming
and inclusive and we don't care.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Who you are. Right, you just have to love theater.
Here's a here's a here's a politically correct way to
say that. Yes, I don't care what year make a
model you are. Oh back to the car and they're like, oh,
what's that mean? I don't care, right, are you a
green car? Blue car? Chevy for word toileta, I don't
care well Chrysler. Yeah, but I just say it to
people all the time and they're like, but but I
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get hate mail at my house. They and I do
provoke them thinking that I got a big picture of
Donald Trump on my fence holding his hand up with
the blood run down his ear. Oh dude, it on
somebury road and everybody knows I don't care because I'm
packing there. Well, they're going to bring a slap fight
to a gunfight, because if you come in my house,
you're going by Bible.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You're going down.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You know you're mean to make her right. But when
you're okay, So back to what I was asking to directing.
When you have that's like Deon sanders Son, he's a
great athlete, but nobody wants him because he runs his mouth.
To put that in your your world. When you have
a great, great actor, but he or she's a pain
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in the butt and you can't do without him, how
do you manage those folks? You know?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You have to you you have to treat people the
way they want to be treated. I know that sounds
weird and against everything that the Golden Rule says. The
Golden Rule says, treat others the way you want to
be treated. Well, not everybody wants to be treated the
way I want to be treated. Slapped on the right, right,
So you know, I so I kind of look, if
this is a person who has got a big, giant
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ego and wants to be catered to for the three
or four weeks that I'm working with this person, I'll
cater to that ego really, okay, because they fine with it.
If I start fighting them, then then all you're gonna
have is tension, not only between you and this particular.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, let's just let's role play. I'm the best actor
you got here. This is I come up to you
the six lines, and you know what, Robert, I think
I did a great job. Now you know, I'm an
arrogate actor, right, and I think I knocked it. If
you ever see anybody do that part better than me.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
What I would say, No, you are. I'm so glad
that we hired you because I know you would. I
knew you would do a great job, and you did
do a great job. Thank you so much for being
part of this. Well, thanks for finding step on playing.
Tell me how great I am.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
You're welcome, and you know what, and and that's how
you do it, that's how you do it. Yeah, what
am I gonna say? No, you've suck and I could
have gotten this person that part. All that's going to
do is lead to bad feelings and anger and hostility,
bad mouthing. And then think about it. You have a
cast and the fight, right, Yeah, you have a cast
and a crew. What really gets my goat, it's not
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people who with egos, I mean all actors have egos
something than others. What gets my go to the people
who chastise me, brate me, call me all kinds of
names on Facebook, on social media. And these are members
of the theater community, and they never ever ever come
to see any of my life.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I gotta go. What's your Facebook stuff? The stage? Right?
The ad? Okay, so you got stuff on where people
attacked you. Yeah, Normally they don't go to my site
to attack me. What they do is they attack me
on their own personal page, and then everybody likes it
in the theater community and it comes back and but
I hear about it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
People tell me about it, and I go over and
I read it, and I go ha haha, and I
cast it aside because these people are part of the
great unwashed, that nobody cares what they think. Really, they're
not They're not movers and shakers.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Wow. So last week I was up at Jake's and
Delaware becomes car Parts and they were protesting Trump about
something who knows, and this guy had a sandwich board on.
I wish I could have took a picture of it.
I don't want to get shot at. It read something,
and I'm going to abbreviate what I thought it read.
It said, you may think these jobs are worthless and
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some may not be needed, but I'm here to tell
you that person that's losing their job won't be able
to pay their bills much. And I was like, is
that captain? Is that? Are you that stupid? I mean
they think that. I've seen people interviewed like I some
of the when I I've worked to play. I'm trying
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to not pigeonhole myself in this. We had We had
to go to this one event I was involved with.
To get the funding and stuff. We had to get
a black owned T shirt company to print these shirts.
They printed these shirts for this event. When we opened
the boxes, half of them weren't done properly and there
was a lot of some of some misspelled words on it.
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So he says to me, help me carry these to
the dumpster. We threw a twenty five hundred dollars worth
of shirts and then ordered it through the other place.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, you mean the other company doesn't make good on it.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, we'll go away. We'll talk about that on break.
But we had to go through the other company and
have them fixed properly. Okay, but that's part of the wokeness.
I think that Trump's trying to go away. And what
I would be insulted with is I if I happened
to be a man of color and I had a respectable,
good company that was doing good work. I don't want
this guy over here doing bad work, pigeonhole me and
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his environment just because skin color needs to go away.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It's like the pilots. I was watching something on one
of the news channels. They said, we need more diversity
and airplane pilots. Well, guess what if they're not the
best person flying the plane, I don't want to get
on that plane. On that plane, I don't care if
they're transsexual. I don't care if they're black. I don't
care if they're white. If you've got the best person
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behind the controls of that plane, don't care. That's right, Andy,
Chris will tell you. I've had lesbians work here. I've
had black guys who work here. I've had black girls,
and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't care either.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I've got the best of the best crew as.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Long as they are the best based on merit, not
the color, not the sexual orientation or anything like that.
Don't fill check off boxes and fill in quotas.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, and I never cared what religion.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
We don't care. At stage right theatrics, we don't care.
Just join us, all right, we get back.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
We're going to have more fun with Robert Cooperman and
Dick from Datons Bean on Whole will take your call, Dick,
this is uh, what are we? This is rob Indian
Booth's on these Radio six ten WTVN
All right, Sunday afternoon, and Mindy's not here, but we're
glad she's not here because she's the last game for
Cammi at a high State. So Mindy's an absolute wreck
right now. Guarantee, Robert, then Robert, now you're Robert Coopman
is filling her big panties, I say, shoes. But she
(00:22):
is a girl. She does identify her pronoun as a female.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
She does.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
She is a lady.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, she's a girl, she's a woman, a lady.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I don't know about that. But anyway, she's she's a
high state's last game today and it's it's parents Senior
Day and all that, and I guarantee she's a wreck.
And and you know, on Facebook the other day, I
got a segue into this. My buddy, he he came
from nothing. He lived in Section eight housing and uh
(00:52):
mark is just he was an upstanding guy, got a
college football scholarship, He married a professional lady. Now he
lives in a beautiful home. He had two ran aw
BMW's and the girl we posted on Facebook that basically,
I'm not bragging, but I'm a boy from the Section
eight housing and I made it in life. And I
said to him. I got on here and I said,
you know what, us who made it from in life
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or something. We're not bragging, We're just proud. It's okay.
And I get that a lot about my cars. Yes,
when I moved the clumb, you know I were tod you.
I moved the clumbs with ten dollars in my wallet, No,
a jcpenny charge card with three hundredar limit and a
full tank of gas.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And I remember my first week on the job, I
had to make money for gas. So the moral of
the story is I became the lunch manager. I made
this job up and I went around to all the
other salespeople and said, everybody, give me five bucks and
I'll go to McDonald's for you. Well McDonald's back then,
I was like three fifty or something. Yeah, So I
made I made on twenty salespeople. I netted twenty two bucks.
(01:48):
About wow, and they said, where's my change. I said,
I go, I fly, you buy, and that's it. So
I'd buy my lunch and I'd fill my tank. So
my first month before I got my first commission check,
that's how I did it. When I show off my cars,
boom well and Mindy, she's raided this raised his beautiful,
smart athletic. Everybody's give me a little girls, look up
(02:11):
the CAMMI. Andy's proud. Yeah too. But but Mindy's so
proud and and some people so she brags about her daughter. Well,
wouldn't you. Yeah, she's proud.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Her daughter has many, many important and great accomplishments. Yes,
and I think that's not bragging. That's proud. That's proud. Yeah,
any parent would. It's okay to be proud.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I don't like the world where we make over losers
more than winners. It's like, well, he's on drugs and
he didn't really mean to be that's and he didn't
really his life circumstances. He didn't mean to rape and
kill that family. He was just misunderstood or and that
seems to be the twinkies. Yeah. I was visiting a
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good friend of mine. He's in prison, and and I
drove down a Noble county. We went down with my
good friend Nick Pope and his wife and my buddy
got wrongfully indicted. It was in the Zoo debacle. But
I went down to visit him, and coming back, I
stopped at Ruby Tuesdays. There's still one in Cambridge A lot. Yeah.
I love the best salad bar ever in my opinion.
(03:15):
So I go into Ruby Tuesdays and there's a girl
from Barnesille Shamrocks High School a softball. The girl looked rindy,
A came a lot bright red hair though, and I
went over her dad and I said, hey, I said,
I do the Barnzill Corsha every year. He goes, oh really,
He goes, oh, yeah, your boots. I said yeah, and
I said she' a friend of fan of Cammi cortter Cracks.
He goes, you kidding me? My daughter loves Cammi quarter Cracks.
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This is an hour and a half east of Columbus.
And this little girl lit up like a Christmas tree.
She say, oh my god, I know that. They started
telling me her averages. They started. So this is a
little girl from a small coal mine Appalachia town hour
and a half away aka eighty five ninety miles away
that Cammi quarter Cracks has made her her hero. And
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I am that that makes my day. And I said, well,
she's like my god daughter. You know. I had to
suck it up a little bit and make sure I
was important. No, I was. I was like man, I said,
And you know what, She's as wonderful in person as
she is on the high stage.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I've only heard tell about her.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
My fantasy for her is her be on ESPN. ESPN.
I think she could rock it out because her dad
is a huge athlete that just football, basketball, baseball, just
another stud She grew up around it, so I think ESPN.
What was the girl that they were shooting naked pictures
up through the hotel lobby? Was that her name? I
(04:39):
was never found guilty Aaron Andrews. She's a hundred times
better than andrew You didn't hear about that. One took
the the thing you look through the door to see
it at your door, and you put a camera in
there and filmed her naked.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Really? Oh, she got the size.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
She sued the hotel company and got big check for that. Wow,
I'm thinking, heck, I'll show my package for free half
the time. You know, I'm not gonna You don't really
think I'm want to touch that. I'm not going to
touch it. In many ways, I don't want you to
touch it. No, you're not my type, thank you. Yeah,
you don't like a negative? So how was your So
how when we get back we talk about your stage
right theater? Did you you had one hundred show up
(05:17):
in a little building? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, with the alterative scene. That's what it's all about,
the Theatre of Dublin.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's right. We had.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
We had a recent show which celebrated the talent and
artistry of Eugene O'Neil, the America's first important playwright.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You were you were acting in this one right, No, no,
I directed you direct?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I directed one of them.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You're like a crew chief in racing. That okay, I
know nothing about racing, but there's a crew chief that
keeps the car right. So when we get back, I
want to ask you the stress levels you go through?
Okay with prima don actors, great actors, Uh, worrying if
the fans liked you, and all the all the anxiety
that you probably go through. So okay, we're going to
take a break. When we get back, we're more with
(05:57):
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So before we went on break, I was telling Robert
Cooperman from Stage right Theatrics that was her names. I
name you huh at Theatrics Theatric stage right Diatrick. That
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sounds really I can't spell that, but you don't have to,
just have to say it. So racing my whole life,
and everybody knows I'm a car nut, but my nerves
when I help on Jake's race team or even my
own race teams over the years, my nerves are shot.
And the night before I think about that, I cross
all my t's and thought all my eyes as the
car ready is. So when I quist that over to you,
(07:01):
as a director and owner of a stage right Theatrics,
you what the night before you're nervous?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Like what goes to your head?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well, you know you have to realize that Number one,
if you're going to direct or produce some particular theater
in any in any location. You're putting yourself out there, right,
I mean you're responsible for what goes on on stage.
It's not just that you're paying for it, You're you're
responsible for it. And you know, think about me. I
am putting on plays of a certain type with a
(07:31):
certain political point of view that is the anathema of
everything else that goes on artistically.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
The opposite.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you would like, and
and so not only am I putting myself out just
in general, I'm putting myself out there and taking a
real risk. You know, are people going to embrace this?
Are people going to condemn it? And both happens, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay, So if you had someone come up to you
go and I think this is ridiculous and you should
have brought now.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Oh I've had that through social media. Yeah, I've had
anonymous letters in the mail.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Oh, I get those all the time. I love those,
I know, but I'm sending them jellyfish. If you've got
something problems, say anything, come to my face. I'm like,
I can't punch you anymore like the old days. I
could send ag. Are you done? Now? You can go
after some exactly, but I mean they what they say, like, oh,
you know, I get accused of you Trump supporting blah
blah blah. You know you and you you hate people,
(08:27):
You're a hater, you know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Really, you know, and I understand what the Trump supported.
I like Trump, so don't get me wrong. I'm not
going to tell you I don't like Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
But he's a bonehead sometimes. Oh of course, I mean
he says stuff I go, oh boy, yeah, yeah, maybe,
I said. You know, it's a stretch, but my theater
company exists irrelevant too, whether Trump is in office or not.
You know, this is what we believe in. You know.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I was once interviewed by a newspaper, a local newspaper.
I'm not going to mention the name, but it's a
local newspaper, you know. And uh and you know all
the ones that have out there, so you could probably
figure out which one this is. But they wanted to
talk to me and vet me before they would write
anything about me, you know, put in anything about my shows.
(09:10):
So they called me up and they want to take news,
of course, and I said, I said, you know, look,
I'll tell you anything you want to know about my company.
But are you doing this with other companies as well?
Are you vetting all the companies in town and as well?
We don't know you. And the fact of the matter is,
prior to that point, for five or six years, they
had put things in the paper about me, so you know,
(09:30):
this was this was just a ruse. They wanted to
find out. One of the questions they asked me was
did your theater company come about because of Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Said?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Hidding, I said, who, It's not coming about because Donald
Trump descended the escalator at his hotel in twenty fifteen. Yeah,
I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So so mentally disturbing to me. Yeah, it's like, what's
wrong with you people? I mean, they just can't take
it if you give them facts, if you you even
improve them. I said, well, well no, it's it's fact.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
They're all they're all amateur and they think they're professional,
but amateurs psychologists, right, you know, they really think they
know what's going on in your head and my head
and Trump's head. They know exactly what what our plot is.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Do you know what the YMCA stands for and what
they're your curve?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Why MC young Men's Catholic Association Okay. Do you know
we had a caller call in I'm not verify this, okay,
but he called in open phones yesterday and he informed
me that it's okay for transgender men to use the
women's facilities at the YMCA.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
This.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, first of all, I have to ask you, this
was on autosmarts.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
No open phones thing is oh okay. But what I'm
getting at is so many people are offended, but we're
not allowed to be offended. If my wife and daughters
in a shower at the y m c A or
any place for that matter, and a dude walks in
that identified as a female, right, but nobody complains about that.
(11:03):
And the same people that are writing you letters have
probably never been any of your place, oh never, And
they're just assuming.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
No that that's the thing. That's what I'm saying. They're
all psychologists because they're all thinking they know what's going on.
They I don't have to see one of his shows.
I know what's going on. Yeah, and they don't. And
people who work with us know that we are welcoming
and inclusive and we don't care.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Who you are. Right, you just have to love theater.
Here's a here's a here's a politically correct way to
say that. Yes, I don't care what year make a
model you are. Oh back to the car and they're like, oh,
what's that mean? I don't care, right, are you a
green car? Blue car? Chevy for word toileta, I don't
care well Chrysler. Yeah, but I just say it to
people all the time and they're like, but but I
(11:45):
get hate mail at my house. They and I do
provoke them thinking that I got a big picture of
Donald Trump on my fence holding his hand up with
the blood run down his ear. Oh dude, it on
somebury road and everybody knows I don't care because I'm
packing there. Well, they're going to bring a slap fight
to a gunfight, because if you come in my house,
you're going by Bible.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You're going down.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You know you're mean to make her right. But when
you're okay, So back to what I was asking to directing.
When you have that's like Deon sanders Son, he's a
great athlete, but nobody wants him because he runs his mouth.
To put that in your your world. When you have
a great, great actor, but he or she's a pain
(12:24):
in the butt and you can't do without him, how
do you manage those folks? You know?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You have to you you have to treat people the
way they want to be treated. I know that sounds
weird and against everything that the Golden Rule says. The
Golden Rule says, treat others the way you want to
be treated. Well, not everybody wants to be treated the
way I want to be treated. Slapped on the right, right,
So you know, I so I kind of look, if
this is a person who has got a big, giant
(12:50):
ego and wants to be catered to for the three
or four weeks that I'm working with this person, I'll
cater to that ego really, okay, because they fine with it.
If I start fighting them, then then all you're gonna
have is tension, not only between you and this particular.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, let's just let's role play. I'm the best actor
you got here. This is I come up to you
the six lines, and you know what, Robert, I think
I did a great job. Now you know, I'm an
arrogate actor, right, and I think I knocked it. If
you ever see anybody do that part better than me.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
What I would say, No, you are. I'm so glad
that we hired you because I know you would. I
knew you would do a great job, and you did
do a great job. Thank you so much for being
part of this. Well, thanks for finding step on playing.
Tell me how great I am.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
You're welcome, and you know what, and and that's how
you do it, that's how you do it. Yeah, what
am I gonna say? No, you've suck and I could
have gotten this person that part. All that's going to
do is lead to bad feelings and anger and hostility,
bad mouthing. And then think about it. You have a
cast and the fight, right, Yeah, you have a cast
and a crew. What really gets my goat, it's not
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people who with egos, I mean all actors have egos
something than others. What gets my go to the people
who chastise me, brate me, call me all kinds of
names on Facebook, on social media. And these are members
of the theater community, and they never ever ever come
to see any of my life.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I gotta go. What's your Facebook stuff? The stage? Right?
The ad? Okay, so you got stuff on where people
attacked you. Yeah, Normally they don't go to my site
to attack me. What they do is they attack me
on their own personal page, and then everybody likes it
in the theater community and it comes back and but
I hear about it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
People tell me about it, and I go over and
I read it, and I go ha haha, and I
cast it aside because these people are part of the
great unwashed, that nobody cares what they think. Really, they're
not They're not movers and shakers.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Wow. So last week I was up at Jake's and
Delaware becomes car Parts and they were protesting Trump about
something who knows, and this guy had a sandwich board on.
I wish I could have took a picture of it.
I don't want to get shot at. It read something,
and I'm going to abbreviate what I thought it read.
It said, you may think these jobs are worthless and
(15:10):
some may not be needed, but I'm here to tell
you that person that's losing their job won't be able
to pay their bills much. And I was like, is
that captain? Is that? Are you that stupid? I mean
they think that. I've seen people interviewed like I some
of the when I I've worked to play. I'm trying
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to not pigeonhole myself in this. We had We had
to go to this one event I was involved with.
To get the funding and stuff. We had to get
a black owned T shirt company to print these shirts.
They printed these shirts for this event. When we opened
the boxes, half of them weren't done properly and there
was a lot of some of some misspelled words on it.
(15:56):
So he says to me, help me carry these to
the dumpster. We threw a twenty five hundred dollars worth
of shirts and then ordered it through the other place.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, you mean the other company doesn't make good on it.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, we'll go away. We'll talk about that on break.
But we had to go through the other company and
have them fixed properly. Okay, but that's part of the wokeness.
I think that Trump's trying to go away. And what
I would be insulted with is I if I happened
to be a man of color and I had a respectable,
good company that was doing good work. I don't want
this guy over here doing bad work, pigeonhole me and
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his environment just because skin color needs to go away.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It's like the pilots. I was watching something on one
of the news channels. They said, we need more diversity
and airplane pilots. Well, guess what if they're not the
best person flying the plane, I don't want to get
on that plane. On that plane, I don't care if
they're transsexual. I don't care if they're black. I don't
care if they're white. If you've got the best person
(16:58):
behind the controls of that plane, don't care. That's right, Andy,
Chris will tell you. I've had lesbians work here. I've
had black guys who work here. I've had black girls,
and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't care either.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I've got the best of the best crew as.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Long as they are the best based on merit, not
the color, not the sexual orientation or anything like that.
Don't fill check off boxes and fill in quotas.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, and I never cared what religion.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
We don't care. At stage right theatrics, we don't care.
Just join us, all right, we get back.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
We're going to have more fun with Robert Cooperman and
Dick from Datons Bean on Whole will take your call, Dick,
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