June 29, 2025 • 25 mins
The Avenu Wellness center shares how they've benefited from the Avenu!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Noon.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Welcome to Raw with Boots and Mindy. I'm obviously not
Boots or Mindy, and my co host sitting is not
Boots or Mindy. Okay, I'm Rebecca and this is Courtney.
We're with the Avenue Wellness Center and we have a
guest with us this afternoon, Ashley Smith. So we're going
to ask you to bear with us a little bit.
Is this is our first time hosting. We've been on
(00:22):
the show for about I don't know two years, but
usually we have our our wonderful host leading us and
baiting us with questions, and today we're totally on our own,
so bear with us a little bit. So we're going
to try something a little bit different. Normally we start
out and tell about what the Avenue Wellness Center is,
(00:42):
you know, what hyperbaric oxygen is, what all the different
treatment modalities are that we offer, and we're going to
try something a little bit differently, and that is to say,
why does someone choose to come to us as opposed
to going to medical normal medical treatment, Western medicine, allopathic medicine.
(01:05):
And so the first question that comes to my mind
when I think about it, and I've been giving this
some thought over the past couple of days. Is how
do you feel when you figure out you need to
go see a doctor. What kind of a feeling does
that give you? Is that something that brings you joy
that you think, oh, great, I'm going to the doctor today.
Is it something that you feel like this is going
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to be a you know, a wonderful event and that
when you leave, everything is going to be great.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Right? How do you feel when you step into the
doctor's appointment?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, Ashley, you're a you know, you have been a client, right,
and you have seen a ton of regular Western medicine.
What did you feel when you were going to Western medicine?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well, I felt overwhelmed and every place that I went
to it seemed like I just it was a dead end.
There was never any clear answers. But also I always
felt rush. They didn't have good bedside manner, they weren't patient,
it didn't seem understanding. You know. I would go in
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with my list of symptoms or whatever that was occurring
in my body, and it just seemed like I was
always I was never taken seriously, and so it just
gives you anxiety alone thinking about, you know, having to
make these appointments. And having to tell the story of
what's going on in your body over and over again,
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constantly to a new doctor, and then not getting anywhere,
not getting any real results.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Now, I think one of the things that I see
as kind of an indicator is when someone goes in
and you'd have your blood pressure taken. A lot of
times people's blood pressure spikes when they go into either
a doctor's.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Office it's called white coat syndrome, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Real, or a hospital and they'll say, oh, you can't
look at that as my blood pressure. It always goes
up when I go in. Why would it go up
when you go to see a doctor, someone who's supposed
to be helping you.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You've got to be stressed, yes, anxiety. Why are we
so stressed walking into these places? Right? But then we
get we get prescribed beta blocker?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Also, did you know that you're if you have to.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Urinate and you're getting your blood pressure taken, it will
always be higher. So maybe first of all, I'll always
go to the bathroom before you go to the doctor,
because you don't want to be, you know, prescribed a
beta blocker when it was just urination and we're.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Always rest We live in a busy world, so I'm
sure you're getting there at the last minute anyways, Like
you said, so you're not even making time to go
to the restroom right before that appointment, right.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And then the other thing is when you go in,
there's there's kind of like a finite time because most
doctors operate on a very tight schedule. So I don't
know what they allocate for a new patient admission or whatever,
but you know, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes something like that,
And is that even time to really get in to
talk about all the different things that you might have,
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because unless you're going to a specialist, and then in
that case.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
My experience, a specialists don't take their time either.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well, but I mean, then if you're going to a specialist,
they're not considering all of the other things that might
be impacting that one condition that you're talking about them
with because because they don't have time, right.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And when you have symptoms that have been ongoing for
three years, you can't wrap that all up in fifteen
minutes time.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
There's a great book called The Patient Will See You Now,
and it's written by multiple mds, and they talk about
the best days and times to see your doctor for
the most attentive appointment. We're human and they're practicing medicine
and it's important, but also they're just as busy as you,
and people get lost in the cracks too much. And
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maybe you're stressed because you don't want to be lost
in the cracks or be told to go to this
specialist and this specialist in cyclicality and then end up
back at your physician.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, or just have medicine after medicine, throw.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
It away exactly all of the side effects.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So, and that is one of the things. I mean,
someone goes in for an upset stomach and they give
you something for acid reflux, and then that causes another
problem with another part of your body, so you take
something for that and then it cascades into this. You're
on multiple medications. I know that was the case with you.
You were multiple medications.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
That I didn't want to be on to begin with, right, Yeah,
tell us your story.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
So I started having symptoms not long after I had COVID,
A bad battle of COVID. So I was having symptoms
for three and a half four years and just beyond miserable.
I mean, my symptoms ranged from total insomnia like I
was just praying for sleep. Completely chronic pain in my back,
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my lower back. I was seeing a chiropractor on a
regular basis, like weekly massage therapist. I was doing anything possible, stretching,
and then my body started developing lesions on my skin.
I didn't know intil I met you guys, that that
was a part of inflammation, because no one brought up inflammation.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Of all the doctors that I.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Saw, nobody said anything about inflammation.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
The precursor is so many yes so and your pain level,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
When I came to see you guys, when I finally
made the appointment and came, my husband can.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Testify to this.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I was in the bathroom begging for him to help
get you know, for me to get ready to come,
because it hurt just to stand, just to do my
makeup and hair and get myself dressed. I mean, I
was living in chronic pain fourth over three years. So
the back pain alone my drive to you guys. I
cried the whole way there. And how did you feel
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when you came in? When I came in, obviously I
was in pain, but as soon as I walked into
the door, I felt welcomed. I had already spoke with
Courtney several times over the phone. She was always patient
with me. I asked a million questions because I.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Knew we loved you already, because you asked the best question.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I was skeptical.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I mean, I'd been to neurologists, rheumatologists, indocrinologists, my primary caregiver.
I mean, so I just I didn't know what to expect.
But I was at a breaking point because the pain
and all the symptoms. I mean I only touched the
surface of the symptoms that I was experiencing. I had neuropathy,
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full blown numbness and tingling in my hands and feet.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
We're going to ask you to pause right there. We're
gonna break here where you're lost listening to raw with
Boots and Mindy, but obviously not Boots and Mindy, always
protected by the Undefeated American made Tattle Tale from the
Heartland Bank Studios on news Radio six ten. Okay, welcome back.
(07:56):
So Ashley was giving us some information about how she felt.
I do want to tell you please stay and listen
to us through the end. We have a tip on
at the end of the show, which is about poison IVY.
This is poison Ivy season, So we have a nice tip.
It's not anything that you have to come to us for.
We're just trying to be good, good Samaritans and get
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something out there for people. So Ashley, can you continue
and tell us a little bit more about you know,
what the difference was and what happened when you came
in to see us.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
So, like I was saying, everybody at the Year at
the Avenue was more than welcoming and patient. Courtney took
my original calls. I called in multiple times before I
ever committed to trying a session, and I was skeptical.
I think it's fair to say that I had been
through a lot. I had medicine. They're at me like
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crazy from doctors and all the different things that I
was trying, and nothing had worked up to that point.
So I hadn't heard of hyperbaric oxygen therapy, so it
was definitely skeptical. And when I came in after, she
so graciously answered every single question and never cut me
off and was patient and you guys always got back
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to me in a timely manner too. That's important. When
I came in, like I said, it was just a
welcoming environment. Anything that I needed, you know, is like,
do you need extra blankets in the chamber, do you
need pillows? Water? How can you make me comfortable in
that moment because it's something that I hadn't been through before.
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And everybody went above and beyond.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We felt the pain that you were in when you
came you were exhausted.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Oh yeah, all we wanted to do was help you.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
So I do remember hearing something about pain levels. Oh yeah,
so what was your pain level when you came in?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So on a scale of like one to ten, I
was living with like a twelve day in and day out.
I mean, it was unbearable. I tried to hide a
lot of it from my family, especially this symptoms, just
because I work full time. I'm a homeschooling mom, and
you know the moms, they take on everything, and that's
just we want to serve, We want to help everyone else,
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and sadly sometimes we take care.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Of ourselves last.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Absolutely, And it had gotten to the point where I
felt like I between the doctors not being patient or
listening and taking in what I was saying, I always
got the sense that they thought I was just seeking
for medicin er drugs, and that's never been who I
am or what I want to do, especially in the
career that I work in.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So I just and Courtney, you're the one who had
worked with her on a day to day basis, tell
about what happened in terms of when you looked at
what she was with all the meds and things that
she was.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Oh my goodness. We do that often.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We'll look at the medication list and it's so many
things are not synergistic together chemically, biologically inside your body.
Your body's enzymes are going to fight attention and you're
just gonna flush them oftentimes, or there can be side
effects because of adverse reactions with these medications in your
system together. So we definitely saw that there were some
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side effects playing off of each other. And the thing is,
when you're inflamed, it's so painful. So what we first
wanted to do is put her in that hyperbaric chamber
and get rid of some of that chronic inflammation just
underlying so that she can feel her body again.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
And it was magnificent. Just after the first one, it
was magnificent.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So then all of the other ones you did, it
was just better and better and better. And I saw
your brain coming back, and because you weren't focused on
the pain anymore, and I saw the synaptic firing. So
Ashley's ability to problem solve for her family and for
herself and then for her friends because she was able
to think clearly without that fog.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Oh yeah, the brain fog. I didn't even touch on
the brain fog alone. I mean the last year before
I had come to see you guys. I mean, I
write reports on a regular basis, and I've always considered
myself very intellectual and just never struggled with vocabulary or
anything like that. And it had got to the point
where I was calling my mom on a regular basis
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because I was trying to write up a report for
work and I couldn't grab words anymore. I couldn't think.
Everyone around me, my kids, everyone, they just noticed that
something wasn't right.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And I actually did everything right too. She ate healthy
while she was there. She she took homework, you know,
she took on the homework, and she prayed the entire
time she was in that chamber that this woman she
did the work.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
No, I want to emphasize that we're not a replacement
for medical doctors. Yeah, so I know, you still go
to see doctors. Oh yeah, and I know that when
you went down off your medications, you did it with
their with their knowledge, and slowly and slowly with them.
So we didn't do any of them. We didn't address
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and you know, we didn't say, well, you need to
come off this medication.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
You pretty get that.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, it's just like Corney said, my first experience there,
I basically had a moment of this it's too good
to be true. There's I thought my mind was playing
tricks on me, because, like I said, I walked in
that day crying and pain, wondering how I could even
make the drive there to do hyperbarrick. And when I
came out of the chamber, there was no pain in
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my body and I hadn't experienced that for almost four years.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
So yeah, I remember you almost didn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And so when you came back the next day, you said,
this isn't normal. You didn't you worded it like this,
you said, the pain hasn't come back yet, right, because.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I was always expecting it. It was right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So so now, how many months has it been since
you stopped coming?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
In? Five months?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
And do you still I mean, do you have a
Have you had a resurgence of those same issues.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
That's the biggest question that everyone in my circle asked me,
because whenever hyperbaric healed me and helped me, I've just
had to tell everyone and anyone. When even strangers, I'll
can be somewhere and i hear that they're suffering in pain,
I'm like, have you heard of hyperbaric? But so yeah,
I mean that's the biggest question that everyone asked me
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on a regular basis. And I get that because a
lot of people don't know what hyperbaric does and they
don't know the benefits. And the answer is no, I
haven't had a single symptom to come back, right, I'm
off all like the medications that you said I've been
there was around seven different medications and I'm not on
anything currently.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So that's amazing. That is truly amazing. And again we
try to tell people we're not looking for long term clients.
We don't want people who are coming back in and
you know, having to see us on a regular basis.
There are one or two conditions where someone has an
autoimmune disorder, then they might need to come back periodically
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and have just like a little refresher course something. But
most things that are addressed, it's like, no, this is
this is clearing you of that condition. Right in the
world health, Yeah, you don't have that condition anymore. So,
you know, as opposed to getting multiple medications and being
on them for a lifetime and being constantly monitored, going
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and have blood work done and measuring this and measuring that.
There is cost because it is and it's time time, costly.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
It's costly for your health.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And it's also you know again, it's you internalize it.
So every time you have to go to do that
blood work, you're worried about what the blood work's going
to show.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And psychosomatically, that does affect your body. Psychosomatics for everybody
listening is your mind's effect on your body, and it
is tangible, it is measurable, like psychological disassociation can manifest
itself as neurological atrophy and that can manifest itself as
physiological pain.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
All right, we're gonna cut for a commercial break. Here
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With boots And. Mindy but for this afternoon Is Avenue
courtney And rebecca And. Ashley so we are here to
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talk about, healthcare wellness, care not medical, care primarily at.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
The Avenue Wellness center In, Hilliard.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Ohio, yes So, courtney tell people how they can get
in touch with.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Us you can call us anytime six one four three
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message we'll get right back to, you and you can
go online at www dot V a V e N
U wellness dot.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Com, So, ashley if you don't, MIND i, mean we
really appreciate your opening up and talking about this because
a lot of people weren't comfortable with sharing all what
they've been. Through but, THIS i know you have shared
this with so many people because it's made such an
impact to, you and then subsequently the people that have
come in have had enormous changes in their lives, Also
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so we really appreciate the fact that you're doing. That
but tell, us in terms of just the emotional, impact
how much of what was going on in your life
do you think was impacted by what you were either
being heard on or not heard on through your conventional.
SOURCES i, mean how much did that impact your?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Life?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Oh, yeah that takes a toll on, you just like,
when LIKE i, said when they're not listening to you
and you feel like you're not being, heard you're not
being taken, seriously and you, have you, know you're referred
to the next doctor and then you have to tell
that story all over. Again But i've also you, know
like you, said your emotional. STAY i had been through
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different trauma in my, life AND i didn't know that
the inflammation and everything like that from not dealing with
those things was causing some of this to the.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Stress it's in, cyclicality isn't it that the side effects
end up becoming so pronounced and profound that those in
essence go back and create that. Inflammation and it's this
toxic cyclicality that you just want freedom.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
From oh, yeah, yeah you actually can feel sicker because
you're not being. Heard, Yeah and the more you're not,
heard the more frightened you, get because if no one's
listening to, YOU i, mean it's the worst thing in
the world is you're talking to someone and you feel
like you're just looking through. Them they're not actually looking at.
You you're not having a real. Conversation they're, concerned or
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they're thinking about something else you're talking and their mind
is somewhere else ahead of you or something like.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
That, well because they already know and they are practicing,
medicine we have to give them a break BECAUSE i
think that oftentimes people go into medical school Thinking i'm
going to practice, health but they are practicing medicine and
they want to practice, health but they're practicing medicine.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Right so what we try to do is we try
to help the body to. Heal AND i don't say
we heal the, body because we don't heal, anything but
we try to put the systems in a good place
where they can heal themselves and to not get into
constant follow up and management of side. Effects so one
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of the things that we say is that we are pain.
Free we're, invasive non invasive pain, free and we pride
ourselves ON i, mean people come in and they, say
this is such a beautiful. Place oh, yeah it doesn't
look like the doctor's. Office, plants they're not always, watered
but we do have plants and big.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Windows you're, watered you're not allowed to leave water.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Exactly that's one tip number, one.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Put some of That celtic salt in, It.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Minnerlands but you know that is THAT'S i think one
of the things that we try to. Do and whether
or not it's with hyperbaric or whether or not it's
with red light or with pulst electromagnet field therapy or
any of these things that have all these names that
people don't understand what they. Are the main thing is
that they are all science. Based And i'm gonna say.
NATURAL i mean it's it's they are. Things our bodies
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are composed of.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
ENERGY a lot of what we, DO nasa does for
their astronauts pre and postpace, travel a lot OF i
mean everything that we do has a study behind, it Right.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yeah and that's the difference, too is like you ask
your doctor or whatever specialists that you were sent, to you, know,
well why are you giving me this medicine or what
is it going to do to? Me and you get
a very vague, answer if you get an answer at,
all or it's all get back to. You but, you,
guys every TIME i, asked you, know If corney recommended
THE rfn or cleanse or the pimp, table whatever it might,
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BE i always, said, well what is this and what
does it? Do and she always gave me like a
full blown, answer.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
And you became a scientist after.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
THAT i don't know about, that BUT i tried to.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Learn, well the interesting thing, is you, know the number
one thing that the hyperbaric and the pulse electromagnetic field
therapy and the red light therapy and THE rf, innerclints
the number one thing that they do is they reduce.
Inflammation and people just do not understand the the impact of.
Inflammation there is a point for. It there is a
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point when you have a surgery or you have an
injury or something that you know you need all of
those cells to flush or flood to that area to
help start provide, healing to help heal up the wound
or close the wound up or. Whatever but they can go,
bonkers they go out of, control and so it's like
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somebody sent. Out what's just like calling the you, know
call the police. Anymore you need one squad car and
you end up with. Six, there well this, one you,
know you you call for a package of red blood
cells and instead you get forty.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Five when acute becomes, chronic you have a real.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Issue oh, yeah that's.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
WHY i mean one of the lesions and stuff alone
started pop up on my. Skin i'm, like it is
like your body's bagging for, mercy because not only do
you have stomach, issues, insomnia brain, fog chronic, pain everything
just piling up on top of each. Other your body
is just baging for you to get this implement and
you have no.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Idea most of us don't have any.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Clue and the hyperbaric chamber does help to modulate the
gut microbiome a little bit. More it helps to modulate
all eleven major. Systems modulation is balance it so you
don't want too, high too, low you want everything. Balanced
it's the homeostasis that we all strive, for right and
it helps to regulate it based on what your body
needs because it's your own stem cells.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Exactly and that's the other thing that's really important TO.
I we just had the discussion with the neurologist and
it was for someone who'd had a brain, injury and
they were, saying, well you, know hyperbaric, oxygen what's that
going to? Do you, know they just need to go
through speech, therapy and you know you have a, stroke
you need speech, therapy you need physical, therapy and thett
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of the matter is and it is a. FACT i,
mean there are, multiple multiple studies that prove that hyperbaric
oxygen increases the number of stem cells that are circulating
in your body by an enormous, amount by six to
ten times the number of stem cells that you normally
have in your. Body and those stem cells go. Anywhere
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they go to a, knee they go to a, hip
they go to your, spine they go into your. Brain
and so that's something that these a lot of the
current medical, literature AND i don't want to say, literature
the training in our medical schools does not train doctors about,
that and so we have to make sure that they're you,
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know that people understand that when they go to their
doctor and say what about hyperbaric that the doctor most
likely is going to, say you, KNOW i actually really
don't know much about, it and maybe they pull it
up and they look at one study and they, say, WELL
i don't. Know it looks like there are, hundreds if
not that of studies and by eminent universities and you
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know training. CENTERS i mean they're they're done by legitimate,
scientists and so that's something that's really Important it's not
that we're Against western. Medicine it's that this can be
used in conjunction with it and to the benefit OF i,
mean if you have to have a broken broken, leg
if you need that broken, leg you need that broken. Leg,
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yeah you need a broken leg put in a, splint
or you need the pins and the you, know all
the different framework. Done if you need, surgery you need
the surgery done our.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Best it's so the best thing you can do is
speak to somebody who's had. It because hyperbaric you would
be hard pressed to find somebody who's done hyperbaric oxygen
therapy and not found a benefit from.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
IT i had a good. Result that's the.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Best you can have a million peer reviewed studies with
one hundred and twenty five million dollars behind them for
THE fda. Support, however you will not find any hard
evidence like you will find in a person who's not
in that pain.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Anymore so with regard and this we've got to cut
here in just a couple of. Seconds but with regard
to your brain, fog do you still have the brain?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Fog? Oh absolutely. Not do people Notice oh, YES.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I MEAN i can't tell you how many people from
my work. ALONE i sent to The avenue just because
they noticed a difference in me and weight loss. TOO
i didn't know that inflammation had built up to the.
POINT i, mean that's not WHAT i ultimately went there,
for BUT i you guys noticed the difference every TIME
i came. IN i think just in the two months,
ALONE i dropped thirty.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Pounds the side effects are your, skin YOUR i felt
better than.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Right the, weight yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
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Welcome to Raw with Boots and Mindy. I'm obviously not
Boots or Mindy, and my co host sitting is not
Boots or Mindy. Okay, I'm Rebecca and this is Courtney.
We're with the Avenue Wellness Center and we have a
guest with us this afternoon, Ashley Smith. So we're going
to ask you to bear with us a little bit.
Is this is our first time hosting. We've been on
(00:22):
the show for about I don't know two years, but
usually we have our our wonderful host leading us and
baiting us with questions, and today we're totally on our own,
so bear with us a little bit. So we're going
to try something a little bit different. Normally we start
out and tell about what the Avenue Wellness Center is,
(00:42):
you know, what hyperbaric oxygen is, what all the different
treatment modalities are that we offer, and we're going to
try something a little bit differently, and that is to say,
why does someone choose to come to us as opposed
to going to medical normal medical treatment, Western medicine, allopathic medicine.
(01:05):
And so the first question that comes to my mind
when I think about it, and I've been giving this
some thought over the past couple of days. Is how
do you feel when you figure out you need to
go see a doctor. What kind of a feeling does
that give you? Is that something that brings you joy
that you think, oh, great, I'm going to the doctor today.
Is it something that you feel like this is going
(01:26):
to be a you know, a wonderful event and that
when you leave, everything is going to be great.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Right? How do you feel when you step into the
doctor's appointment?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, Ashley, you're a you know, you have been a client, right,
and you have seen a ton of regular Western medicine.
What did you feel when you were going to Western medicine?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Well, I felt overwhelmed and every place that I went
to it seemed like I just it was a dead end.
There was never any clear answers. But also I always
felt rush. They didn't have good bedside manner, they weren't patient,
it didn't seem understanding. You know. I would go in
(02:08):
with my list of symptoms or whatever that was occurring
in my body, and it just seemed like I was
always I was never taken seriously, and so it just
gives you anxiety alone thinking about, you know, having to
make these appointments. And having to tell the story of
what's going on in your body over and over again,
(02:30):
constantly to a new doctor, and then not getting anywhere,
not getting any real results.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Now, I think one of the things that I see
as kind of an indicator is when someone goes in
and you'd have your blood pressure taken. A lot of
times people's blood pressure spikes when they go into either
a doctor's.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Office it's called white coat syndrome, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Real, or a hospital and they'll say, oh, you can't
look at that as my blood pressure. It always goes
up when I go in. Why would it go up
when you go to see a doctor, someone who's supposed
to be helping you.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You've got to be stressed, yes, anxiety. Why are we
so stressed walking into these places? Right? But then we
get we get prescribed beta blocker?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Also, did you know that you're if you have to.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Urinate and you're getting your blood pressure taken, it will
always be higher. So maybe first of all, I'll always
go to the bathroom before you go to the doctor,
because you don't want to be, you know, prescribed a
beta blocker when it was just urination and we're.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Always rest We live in a busy world, so I'm
sure you're getting there at the last minute anyways, Like
you said, so you're not even making time to go
to the restroom right before that appointment, right.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And then the other thing is when you go in,
there's there's kind of like a finite time because most
doctors operate on a very tight schedule. So I don't
know what they allocate for a new patient admission or whatever,
but you know, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes something like that,
And is that even time to really get in to
talk about all the different things that you might have,
(03:55):
because unless you're going to a specialist, and then in
that case.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
My experience, a specialists don't take their time either.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well, but I mean, then if you're going to a specialist,
they're not considering all of the other things that might
be impacting that one condition that you're talking about them
with because because they don't have time, right.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And when you have symptoms that have been ongoing for
three years, you can't wrap that all up in fifteen
minutes time.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
There's a great book called The Patient Will See You Now,
and it's written by multiple mds, and they talk about
the best days and times to see your doctor for
the most attentive appointment. We're human and they're practicing medicine
and it's important, but also they're just as busy as you,
and people get lost in the cracks too much. And
(04:40):
maybe you're stressed because you don't want to be lost
in the cracks or be told to go to this
specialist and this specialist in cyclicality and then end up
back at your physician.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, or just have medicine after medicine, throw.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
It away exactly all of the side effects.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So, and that is one of the things. I mean,
someone goes in for an upset stomach and they give
you something for acid reflux, and then that causes another
problem with another part of your body, so you take
something for that and then it cascades into this. You're
on multiple medications. I know that was the case with you.
You were multiple medications.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
That I didn't want to be on to begin with, right, Yeah,
tell us your story.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
So I started having symptoms not long after I had COVID,
A bad battle of COVID. So I was having symptoms
for three and a half four years and just beyond miserable.
I mean, my symptoms ranged from total insomnia like I
was just praying for sleep. Completely chronic pain in my back,
(05:43):
my lower back. I was seeing a chiropractor on a
regular basis, like weekly massage therapist. I was doing anything possible, stretching,
and then my body started developing lesions on my skin.
I didn't know intil I met you guys, that that
was a part of inflammation, because no one brought up inflammation.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Of all the doctors that I.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Saw, nobody said anything about inflammation.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
The precursor is so many yes so and your pain level,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
When I came to see you guys, when I finally
made the appointment and came, my husband can.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Testify to this.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I was in the bathroom begging for him to help
get you know, for me to get ready to come,
because it hurt just to stand, just to do my
makeup and hair and get myself dressed. I mean, I
was living in chronic pain fourth over three years. So
the back pain alone my drive to you guys. I
cried the whole way there. And how did you feel
(06:44):
when you came in? When I came in, obviously I
was in pain, but as soon as I walked into
the door, I felt welcomed. I had already spoke with
Courtney several times over the phone. She was always patient
with me. I asked a million questions because I.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Knew we loved you already, because you asked the best question.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I was skeptical.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I mean, I'd been to neurologists, rheumatologists, indocrinologists, my primary caregiver.
I mean, so I just I didn't know what to expect.
But I was at a breaking point because the pain
and all the symptoms. I mean I only touched the
surface of the symptoms that I was experiencing. I had neuropathy,
(07:25):
full blown numbness and tingling in my hands and feet.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
We're going to ask you to pause right there. We're
gonna break here where you're lost listening to raw with
Boots and Mindy, but obviously not Boots and Mindy, always
protected by the Undefeated American made Tattle Tale from the
Heartland Bank Studios on news Radio six ten. Okay, welcome back.
(07:56):
So Ashley was giving us some information about how she felt.
I do want to tell you please stay and listen
to us through the end. We have a tip on
at the end of the show, which is about poison IVY.
This is poison Ivy season, So we have a nice tip.
It's not anything that you have to come to us for.
We're just trying to be good, good Samaritans and get
(08:18):
something out there for people. So Ashley, can you continue
and tell us a little bit more about you know,
what the difference was and what happened when you came
in to see us.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
So, like I was saying, everybody at the Year at
the Avenue was more than welcoming and patient. Courtney took
my original calls. I called in multiple times before I
ever committed to trying a session, and I was skeptical.
I think it's fair to say that I had been
through a lot. I had medicine. They're at me like
(08:49):
crazy from doctors and all the different things that I
was trying, and nothing had worked up to that point.
So I hadn't heard of hyperbaric oxygen therapy, so it
was definitely skeptical. And when I came in after, she
so graciously answered every single question and never cut me
off and was patient and you guys always got back
(09:12):
to me in a timely manner too. That's important. When
I came in, like I said, it was just a
welcoming environment. Anything that I needed, you know, is like,
do you need extra blankets in the chamber, do you
need pillows? Water? How can you make me comfortable in
that moment because it's something that I hadn't been through before.
(09:33):
And everybody went above and beyond.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
We felt the pain that you were in when you
came you were exhausted.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Oh yeah, all we wanted to do was help you.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
So I do remember hearing something about pain levels. Oh yeah,
so what was your pain level when you came in?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
So on a scale of like one to ten, I
was living with like a twelve day in and day out.
I mean, it was unbearable. I tried to hide a
lot of it from my family, especially this symptoms, just
because I work full time. I'm a homeschooling mom, and
you know the moms, they take on everything, and that's
just we want to serve, We want to help everyone else,
(10:10):
and sadly sometimes we take care.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Of ourselves last.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Absolutely, And it had gotten to the point where I
felt like I between the doctors not being patient or
listening and taking in what I was saying, I always
got the sense that they thought I was just seeking
for medicin er drugs, and that's never been who I
am or what I want to do, especially in the
career that I work in.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So I just and Courtney, you're the one who had
worked with her on a day to day basis, tell
about what happened in terms of when you looked at
what she was with all the meds and things that
she was.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Oh my goodness. We do that often.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
We'll look at the medication list and it's so many
things are not synergistic together chemically, biologically inside your body.
Your body's enzymes are going to fight attention and you're
just gonna flush them oftentimes, or there can be side
effects because of adverse reactions with these medications in your
system together. So we definitely saw that there were some
(11:12):
side effects playing off of each other. And the thing is,
when you're inflamed, it's so painful. So what we first
wanted to do is put her in that hyperbaric chamber
and get rid of some of that chronic inflammation just
underlying so that she can feel her body again.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
And it was magnificent. Just after the first one, it
was magnificent.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So then all of the other ones you did, it
was just better and better and better. And I saw
your brain coming back, and because you weren't focused on
the pain anymore, and I saw the synaptic firing. So
Ashley's ability to problem solve for her family and for
herself and then for her friends because she was able
to think clearly without that fog.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Oh yeah, the brain fog. I didn't even touch on
the brain fog alone. I mean the last year before
I had come to see you guys. I mean, I
write reports on a regular basis, and I've always considered
myself very intellectual and just never struggled with vocabulary or
anything like that. And it had got to the point
where I was calling my mom on a regular basis
(12:14):
because I was trying to write up a report for
work and I couldn't grab words anymore. I couldn't think.
Everyone around me, my kids, everyone, they just noticed that
something wasn't right.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
And I actually did everything right too. She ate healthy
while she was there. She she took homework, you know,
she took on the homework, and she prayed the entire
time she was in that chamber that this woman she
did the work.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
No, I want to emphasize that we're not a replacement
for medical doctors. Yeah, so I know, you still go
to see doctors. Oh yeah, and I know that when
you went down off your medications, you did it with
their with their knowledge, and slowly and slowly with them.
So we didn't do any of them. We didn't address
(13:01):
and you know, we didn't say, well, you need to
come off this medication.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
You pretty get that.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yeah, it's just like Corney said, my first experience there,
I basically had a moment of this it's too good
to be true. There's I thought my mind was playing
tricks on me, because, like I said, I walked in
that day crying and pain, wondering how I could even
make the drive there to do hyperbarrick. And when I
came out of the chamber, there was no pain in
(13:26):
my body and I hadn't experienced that for almost four years.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
So yeah, I remember you almost didn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And so when you came back the next day, you said,
this isn't normal. You didn't you worded it like this,
you said, the pain hasn't come back yet, right, because.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I was always expecting it. It was right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So so now, how many months has it been since
you stopped coming?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
In? Five months?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
And do you still I mean, do you have a
Have you had a resurgence of those same issues.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
That's the biggest question that everyone in my circle asked me,
because whenever hyperbaric healed me and helped me, I've just
had to tell everyone and anyone. When even strangers, I'll
can be somewhere and i hear that they're suffering in pain,
I'm like, have you heard of hyperbaric? But so yeah,
I mean that's the biggest question that everyone asked me
(14:15):
on a regular basis. And I get that because a
lot of people don't know what hyperbaric does and they
don't know the benefits. And the answer is no, I
haven't had a single symptom to come back, right, I'm
off all like the medications that you said I've been
there was around seven different medications and I'm not on
anything currently.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
So that's amazing. That is truly amazing. And again we
try to tell people we're not looking for long term clients.
We don't want people who are coming back in and
you know, having to see us on a regular basis.
There are one or two conditions where someone has an
autoimmune disorder, then they might need to come back periodically
(14:57):
and have just like a little refresher course something. But
most things that are addressed, it's like, no, this is
this is clearing you of that condition. Right in the
world health, Yeah, you don't have that condition anymore. So,
you know, as opposed to getting multiple medications and being
on them for a lifetime and being constantly monitored, going
(15:19):
and have blood work done and measuring this and measuring that.
There is cost because it is and it's time time, costly.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
It's costly for your health.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And it's also you know again, it's you internalize it.
So every time you have to go to do that
blood work, you're worried about what the blood work's going
to show.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
And psychosomatically, that does affect your body. Psychosomatics for everybody
listening is your mind's effect on your body, and it
is tangible, it is measurable, like psychological disassociation can manifest
itself as neurological atrophy and that can manifest itself as
physiological pain.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
All right, we're gonna cut for a commercial break. Here
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With boots And. Mindy but for this afternoon Is Avenue
courtney And rebecca And. Ashley so we are here to
(16:18):
talk about, healthcare wellness, care not medical, care primarily at.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
The Avenue Wellness center In, Hilliard.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Ohio, yes So, courtney tell people how they can get
in touch with.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Us you can call us anytime six one four three
one nine three three five. Four if you do leave a,
message we'll get right back to, you and you can
go online at www dot V a V e N
U wellness dot.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Com, So, ashley if you don't, MIND i, mean we
really appreciate your opening up and talking about this because
a lot of people weren't comfortable with sharing all what
they've been. Through but, THIS i know you have shared
this with so many people because it's made such an
impact to, you and then subsequently the people that have
come in have had enormous changes in their lives, Also
(17:05):
so we really appreciate the fact that you're doing. That
but tell, us in terms of just the emotional, impact
how much of what was going on in your life
do you think was impacted by what you were either
being heard on or not heard on through your conventional.
SOURCES i, mean how much did that impact your?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Life?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Oh, yeah that takes a toll on, you just like,
when LIKE i, said when they're not listening to you
and you feel like you're not being, heard you're not
being taken, seriously and you, have you, know you're referred
to the next doctor and then you have to tell
that story all over. Again But i've also you, know
like you, said your emotional. STAY i had been through
(17:49):
different trauma in my, life AND i didn't know that
the inflammation and everything like that from not dealing with
those things was causing some of this to the.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Stress it's in, cyclicality isn't it that the side effects
end up becoming so pronounced and profound that those in
essence go back and create that. Inflammation and it's this
toxic cyclicality that you just want freedom.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
From oh, yeah, yeah you actually can feel sicker because
you're not being. Heard, Yeah and the more you're not,
heard the more frightened you, get because if no one's
listening to, YOU i, mean it's the worst thing in
the world is you're talking to someone and you feel
like you're just looking through. Them they're not actually looking at.
You you're not having a real. Conversation they're, concerned or
(18:36):
they're thinking about something else you're talking and their mind
is somewhere else ahead of you or something like.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
That, well because they already know and they are practicing,
medicine we have to give them a break BECAUSE i
think that oftentimes people go into medical school Thinking i'm
going to practice, health but they are practicing medicine and
they want to practice, health but they're practicing medicine.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Right so what we try to do is we try
to help the body to. Heal AND i don't say
we heal the, body because we don't heal, anything but
we try to put the systems in a good place
where they can heal themselves and to not get into
constant follow up and management of side. Effects so one
(19:19):
of the things that we say is that we are pain.
Free we're, invasive non invasive pain, free and we pride
ourselves ON i, mean people come in and they, say
this is such a beautiful. Place oh, yeah it doesn't
look like the doctor's. Office, plants they're not always, watered
but we do have plants and big.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Windows you're, watered you're not allowed to leave water.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Exactly that's one tip number, one.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Put some of That celtic salt in, It.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Minnerlands but you know that is THAT'S i think one
of the things that we try to. Do and whether
or not it's with hyperbaric or whether or not it's
with red light or with pulst electromagnet field therapy or
any of these things that have all these names that
people don't understand what they. Are the main thing is
that they are all science. Based And i'm gonna say.
NATURAL i mean it's it's they are. Things our bodies
(20:13):
are composed of.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
ENERGY a lot of what we, DO nasa does for
their astronauts pre and postpace, travel a lot OF i
mean everything that we do has a study behind, it Right.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yeah and that's the difference, too is like you ask
your doctor or whatever specialists that you were sent, to you, know,
well why are you giving me this medicine or what
is it going to do to? Me and you get
a very vague, answer if you get an answer at,
all or it's all get back to. You but, you,
guys every TIME i, asked you, know If corney recommended
THE rfn or cleanse or the pimp, table whatever it might,
(20:45):
BE i always, said, well what is this and what
does it? Do and she always gave me like a
full blown, answer.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
And you became a scientist after.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
THAT i don't know about, that BUT i tried to.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Learn, well the interesting thing, is you, know the number
one thing that the hyperbaric and the pulse electromagnetic field
therapy and the red light therapy and THE rf, innerclints
the number one thing that they do is they reduce.
Inflammation and people just do not understand the the impact of.
Inflammation there is a point for. It there is a
(21:18):
point when you have a surgery or you have an
injury or something that you know you need all of
those cells to flush or flood to that area to
help start provide, healing to help heal up the wound
or close the wound up or. Whatever but they can go,
bonkers they go out of, control and so it's like
(21:40):
somebody sent. Out what's just like calling the you, know
call the police. Anymore you need one squad car and
you end up with. Six, there well this, one you,
know you you call for a package of red blood
cells and instead you get forty.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Five when acute becomes, chronic you have a real.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Issue oh, yeah that's.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
WHY i mean one of the lesions and stuff alone
started pop up on my. Skin i'm, like it is
like your body's bagging for, mercy because not only do
you have stomach, issues, insomnia brain, fog chronic, pain everything
just piling up on top of each. Other your body
is just baging for you to get this implement and
you have no.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Idea most of us don't have any.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Clue and the hyperbaric chamber does help to modulate the
gut microbiome a little bit. More it helps to modulate
all eleven major. Systems modulation is balance it so you
don't want too, high too, low you want everything. Balanced
it's the homeostasis that we all strive, for right and
it helps to regulate it based on what your body
needs because it's your own stem cells.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Exactly and that's the other thing that's really important TO.
I we just had the discussion with the neurologist and
it was for someone who'd had a brain, injury and
they were, saying, well you, know hyperbaric, oxygen what's that
going to? Do you, know they just need to go
through speech, therapy and you know you have a, stroke
you need speech, therapy you need physical, therapy and thett
(23:00):
of the matter is and it is a. FACT i,
mean there are, multiple multiple studies that prove that hyperbaric
oxygen increases the number of stem cells that are circulating
in your body by an enormous, amount by six to
ten times the number of stem cells that you normally
have in your. Body and those stem cells go. Anywhere
(23:20):
they go to a, knee they go to a, hip
they go to your, spine they go into your. Brain
and so that's something that these a lot of the
current medical, literature AND i don't want to say, literature
the training in our medical schools does not train doctors about,
that and so we have to make sure that they're you,
(23:43):
know that people understand that when they go to their
doctor and say what about hyperbaric that the doctor most
likely is going to, say you, KNOW i actually really
don't know much about, it and maybe they pull it
up and they look at one study and they, say, WELL
i don't. Know it looks like there are, hundreds if
not that of studies and by eminent universities and you
(24:07):
know training. CENTERS i mean they're they're done by legitimate,
scientists and so that's something that's really Important it's not
that we're Against western. Medicine it's that this can be
used in conjunction with it and to the benefit OF i,
mean if you have to have a broken broken, leg
if you need that broken, leg you need that broken. Leg,
(24:29):
yeah you need a broken leg put in a, splint
or you need the pins and the you, know all
the different framework. Done if you need, surgery you need
the surgery done our.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Best it's so the best thing you can do is
speak to somebody who's had. It because hyperbaric you would
be hard pressed to find somebody who's done hyperbaric oxygen
therapy and not found a benefit from.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
IT i had a good. Result that's the.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Best you can have a million peer reviewed studies with
one hundred and twenty five million dollars behind them for
THE fda. Support, however you will not find any hard
evidence like you will find in a person who's not
in that pain.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Anymore so with regard and this we've got to cut
here in just a couple of. Seconds but with regard
to your brain, fog do you still have the brain?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Fog? Oh absolutely. Not do people Notice oh, YES.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I MEAN i can't tell you how many people from
my work. ALONE i sent to The avenue just because
they noticed a difference in me and weight loss. TOO
i didn't know that inflammation had built up to the.
POINT i, mean that's not WHAT i ultimately went there,
for BUT i you guys noticed the difference every TIME
i came. IN i think just in the two months,
ALONE i dropped thirty.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Pounds the side effects are your, skin YOUR i felt
better than.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Right the, weight yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
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