In this episode of Home in Progress, sponsored by RepcoLite Paints and Benjamin Moore, host Dan Hansen covers a variety of home improvement topics. He shares a humorous personal story about a sprinkler mishap and discusses the longevity and performance of EGO battery-powered lawn equipment with guest Kevin Herman from Benjamin Moore. Later, they dive into the benefits of SCUFF-X, a high-performance paint ideal for high-traffic areas in facilities like schools, hotels, and senior living centers. Finally, Dan offers advice on choosing the right paint colors for east-facing rooms, taking into account the shifting natural light throughout the day.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction and Show Overview00:55 Sprinkler Head Fiasco: A Hilarious Home Improvement Story05:58 Ego Battery Powered Lawn Equipment Review14:57 SCUFF X: The Ultimate Solution for High-Traffic Areas18:34 Unique Qualities of SCUFF X19:37 Application and Feedback20:35 Demonstrations and Real-World Use23:50 Finishes and Durability27:56 Choosing Colors for East Facing Rooms36:48 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Home in Progress, sponsored by Recolite Paints
and Benjamin More and today I've got a packed show
and we're covering a little bit of everything. Later on
at the end, I'm going to be digging into how
to choose the right paint colors for east facing rooms.
You know, these spaces can be a little bit tricky
thanks to their shifting light, but with the right approach,
they can really shine.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We're going to get to that.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Before we do, we're going to be looking at Benjamin
Moore scuff X. It's a high performance paint that's making
a huge impact in schools, senior housing and hotels throughout
West Michigan. It's durable, it's washable, it resists scuffs unlike
anything I've ever seen, and in a lot of facilities,
it's cutting down maintenance work in a big way. We're
going to talk about that. I'm also going to be
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giving an update on some Ego battery powered lawn equipment
that I reviewed a few years back. You know, back
then I was a huge fan. But the real test
is how it holds up over time.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So what's the scoop? Am I still happy with it?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm going to get to that in a little bit,
but first I want to start with something that happened
to me in front of all my names last week.
It was classic, classic me. So I'm working on replacing
a sprinkler head. All right, I dig it up, I
unscrew the old one, I put the new one in place,
and then I turn the sprinklers back on. Now the
new head is spinning around in a full circle, you know,
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And all I need to do to be done with
this job is to dial it in, you know. So
it's hitting the zone exactly the way I want, going
a little bit this way to the right, hitting a
stopping point, and then going back to the left, hitting
the stopping point, and then just repeating that.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's all I need to do.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So I go online, because I can never remember how
to do this just just from memory. I go online
and look it up, and I see how it's supposed
to be done, very simple. So I do that, and
of course it doesn't work. The sprinkler is still spinning
in this slow circle, spraying the road, spraying everywhere. So
I keep doing it, you know, adjusting it the way
the manufacturer says to do, and no luck, no go,
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you know, it goes on and on and on like this,
probably thirty minutes or so.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You know, I'm getting re sick of it at this point.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
The kids are trying to help me, but wherever they stand,
you know, I manually adjust the sprinkler quickly, and then
I almost hit them. It's not their fault, I know that.
I know they're just trying to be helpful. But I
needed them to not be there right so I could
just work. There was nowhere that they could choose to
go that I wasn't going to spray them, So I
asked them, just please, please just just fade away into
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the background, you know, give me some.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Space to work here. So they do that.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
They can tell I'm a little tense, and I go
back to work on the sprinkler.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm fidgeting of it.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm adjusting it, I'm tweaking it, I'm checking the web,
you know, and still I can't make it work. You know,
forty five minutes in, I've probably been working on it.
The kids are far away now on the yard, and
they're giving me the space I need. They can tell
the tension is running a little bit high. The neighbors,
you know, across the street They're all kind of watching
me from their yards because they can see I'm really struggling.
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It's really interesting, you know, watching this little guy just
not be able to pull this off. So anyway, all
of that's going on, and in the midst of all
of that, my absolute ridiculous black lab Fern. I've talked
about her on the show. She's sweet, but she's kind
of a dope. She gets loose, you know, away from
one of the kids, and she comes bareing at me.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
She didn't know where I was. All of a sudden
she spotted me.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
She comes busting at me, and I thought she was
going to run on the road, and so I jumped up.
I grabbed her leash, and then I bent over, you know,
to look seriously and deeply into her eyes and convey
the idea that she needed to sit down and behave
all right. So as I'm standing there, hunched over my
backside facing the road, you know, wiggling back and forth,
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as I'm trying to convey to Fern that she needs
to be obedient, you know, I'm doing all that three
feet away from a sprinkler that I've completely forgotten about
and which is still spinning slowly around.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, you can see where this is going.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Of course, it hit me directly in the bottom, full
blast at you know, at point blank range. It was
a direct hit cold cold water. Let me tell you,
cold well water a powerful jetting blast. You know. I
don't know that I need to explain it much more clearly.
It was an eye opening experience, to say the least.
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I jumped higher than I thought I was capable of
jumping at that point. And then I yelled, you know,
nothing in particular, nothing bad, just a loud, startled yell
that was really more like a high pitched you know,
kind of like an ek, you know, and it wasn't
an eke, but it was more that than it was
a yell. It wasn't manly. Let's just say that Fern's
eyes went absolutely wide and she took off towards the house.
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I don't think she knew what was going down at
that point, but she was getting the heck out of
Dodge when she saw me jump. The kids they saw
it happen, and they all took off across the yard
in different directions, laughing as they went. I spun around,
you know, trying to act cool, trying to salvage something
of the this moment, you know, like I maybe had
planned this, that this is all part of my sprinkler plan.
(05:05):
I'm going to just take one for the team, you know,
direct hit right for the team, and somehow that's going
to help me get the sprinkler fixed. You know, I
don't know what I'm thinking, but I'm trying to look cool.
What else can you do at that point? Well, I
look at the neighbors and they're all randomly looking everywhere
but in my direction.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know, I clearly they'd seen.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
The whole thing. You know, they're probably still thinking about it.
Do these things happen to anybody else out there? Please
tell me they do? Or am I completely alone in
all of this?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I thought that was a great home improvement story to
start the show, and I was very excited to share
that with you after I've recovered from the experience. I've
been sitting on a donut pillow for about a week now,
but finally I'm able to be, you know, fluid like
I used to be, you know, in movement.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Anyway, I wanted to share that.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Now let's get to the show, and I want to
start by talking about Ego lawn equipment, battery powered lawn equipment.
And to help me do that, I've got Kevin Herman
from Benjamin Moore, believe it or not, here in the
studio with me. Kevin, thanks for being.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Here, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I didn't necessarily want to have you here, Kevin, but no,
I did nobody else to talk to. I know, I
do get bored after a while. I want to talk
about like completely different things. I want to talk about
paint stuff, all right, scuff X in particular. Before we
get to that, I want to talk about yard equipment.
And you know, because that's who we go to for
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expert advice, is are the pink guy?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
The pink guy?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, for no matter what we're talking about. No, the
Ego battery powered lawn equipment stuff, it's something that I
bought and talked about on the show probably four years
ago or so, I'm not exactly sure how long ago.
I've had it for a while and I bought an
Ego Ego battery powered weed whip. I have the Hey trimmer,
(07:01):
and I have the leaf blower, and I got two
battery packs that go with it. When I bought it,
I was not big on battery powered anything, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I yeah, I have the fear too.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah. I just I wanted it to work, and I've
not had good experience with anything like that for that
kind of equipment.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And I did a lot of reading about it, a
lot of reviews I read, and I jumped in and
I loved it. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I think my favorite part, and I mentioned it over
and over again, was the hedge trimmer.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't use that very often. I had an electric one,
and I went through so many power chords.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I've cut them myself.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, just sliced right through them and.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Little shock sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
This made it so easy, you know, just get it
and go the leaf blower. I didn't have to drape
chords over everything. But I was always back on my
mind thinking, you know, how long is this going to last?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Did they have enough power?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah? Well I found out it had enough power, yep,
And how long is it going to last? And the
first after the first year, I came on air and
I talked about it and oh yeah, man, it's still
working good. Uh Now it's got to be my fourth
season and there's still incredible you know. I was doing
the hedge trimmer thing this past two weekends ago, and it's.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Still I'm blown away.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's battery powered and I'm cutting through things that have
to be more than a quarter of an inch in diameter.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know, it's huge.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I can't believe that using it like a like a
I'm using are something.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Should not be I'm sure of that. But it is
going through big stuff, and.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I'm I'm uh. You know. I was definitely partial to
the gas, but I don't like the change oil. I
don't like the maintenance aspects. So I switched over to
some electric stuff a few years ago, and uh, I've
been extremely happy without, especially the EGO products.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Right you switched over, I mean one of the big things,
because we had you on the air talking about it,
and I think it's time to do a little follow
up and you know, let people know how this is
held up. You bought the rider.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It's still forty two. I think they have a couple
different size of the forty two inch riding lawnmore which, yeah,
it has four batteries that it came with ten hamp
hours each and then it has space for two more.
So I could do two acres with that thing without
a problem. If I had all the batteries, so I
do a little over an acre, an acre, one point two,
one point three acre, something like that. And uh, I
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was starting to get a little disappointed the beginning of
the year this year, and has had.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It last year.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I've had it, and I've had it for this is
my third year, maybe fourth years, had it for a
few years. And the battery charge wasn't holding up like
it used to, and uh what didn't go as fast?
And it seemed to be pulling to one side. And
took a look at it, and all I had to
do was put some air in attires.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Now, I think this is really funny. And you you
are cutting yourself a little too much slack there because
you told me about this last week.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You weren't just I.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Wasn't going to embellish on my stupidity.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Embellish on the stupidity.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You were so bummed.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know, it's not working, it's not doing this, it's
not doing that. And then you examined it.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
A little more closely, actually paid.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And riding it all over the place, and you look
at it and you said, multiple tires are completely The.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Left tire in the back was basically riding on the rim.
I don't know why I didn't notice the leaning, but
that probably why it didn't want to go straight. And
then the front two tires, I didn't think they took air,
but they have bellf stems on them. They do, It
turns out they do. And one of them was so
flat that it has these weird looking bulges in the side.
(10:41):
Now that I've filled it.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Up, Oh so now you've damn it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It looks like it has growth because it was running
on flat for so long.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You had another thing that something like a little bolt
or something. Oh, the tightening.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, we don't have to get into all this, but
when I did.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And it would plow a little furrow in your.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, one of the one of the little I guess
carriage wheels underneath the mower assembly. I broke it off
and then I attached it, but the boat was bent
to so I didn't put it all the way back on,
and it kind of dangled down a little bit, and
every time I turned, it would plow the ground either direction,
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left or right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's so funny. This thing is just junk. And it
turns out you're just a terrible, terrible owner.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Well of you know, I don't have to put gas
in it, or oil or anything. So I didn't think
I had to do anything with it. No, it's a maintenance.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Free it needs a little bit of lot.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So now guess what, I'm really happy with it again.
It goes just as fast it goes straight. I'm able
to do the same amount of yard that I was
able to before. It turns out that air and attires
is important.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I think it's hilarious because when you to tell me this,
I thought, oh, no, you don't like it anymore because
we came out and we really advocated.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I didn't like the way it was seemed like it
was working well.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And it turns out, no, it's it's a happy ending.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You're just I'm just an idiot.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I didn't want to say an idiot. I was thinking dope,
but I don't know if you can say it on
the radio. I think I can. I just did, so
we'll wait for the letters to come.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So anyway, the bottom line is very happy with it still.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So that's a rider. I know Ego makes battery powered
push more. I was always going to try that. Haley
has one of those. Haley used to be.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I think Dave has one too. Who does Dave helme?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Okay, Dave, he's the general manager at Rappol, he's got
one as well. Does he like that? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I believe he loves it?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Okay? Yeah, I was watching a neighbor guy doing that
the other day with his I don't remember. I think
his was an ego as well. But there are other
brands out there, yes, but utterly silent, very quiet, really.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Really you heard the worring of the blade.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That's and that's what your rider is.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Just truly truly silent, and it flies.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It goes pretty fast. It goes fast enough now yeah,
h it goes much faster, so st these years, still
two thumbs up. Yeah. I was really disappointed a few
weeks ago. Now I'm back to being happy again.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
No, I definitely love mine. I would definitely recommend digging
into it. You know, if you've got gas powered lawn equipment,
that you're using electric stuff, or even if you've gone
the cheap o battery route, you know, those things you
do have to pay to get something that's going to
hold up m h.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And then you have to do a little maintenance, do
a little.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Bit of maintenance mine, right, minor maintenance, but the thing
that I love most about like the stuff that I've got,
the leaf flower, the leaf blower, in the hedge trimmers,
and honestly the weed whip because I had a gas
powered weed whip that I could never keep consistently, you.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Know, easyning start.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That was real pain in the net. And the other
two pieces that I had were both electric. I did
have a gas powered leaf floor, but that was the
same thing. Could never you know, it was I was
never confident that when I go out and need it,
it was going to.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Be ready to go without the same same thing.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I work with it. But with the electric ones, they
were always ready to go. But now I've got to
drape a cord everywhere I go, and that just got
old after a while. And so what I would do
is I just wouldn't do it as often. I would wait,
you know, save it up till I really needed it.
With this battery powered stuff, I can go right away
whenever it's ready to go all the time. As long
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as I've charged the batteries, I'm good to go.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yep, the batteries have to be charged, but they don't
take long.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
No, Well, that's the other surprising thing. Yeah, really quick
on pretty fast. So anyway, I'll put links in the
show notes if you're looking at or still debating the
whole battery powered lawn equipment thing. It's the real deal
and definitely something to look into. All right, let's take
a break, Kevin, and then when we come back, I
want to talk about scuff X and some interesting success
(14:47):
that you're having with Okay, sure, all right, so good
that in just a minute stick around Home in Progress
is brought to you by Repcolite Paints and Benjamin Moore.
Top to your paint expert advice. Your next project is
way easier than you think it's going to be. Well,
I am still in the studio with Kevin Herman.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
From Good Morning again, Kevin, thanks.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
For waiting with me. Over the break. We just talked
about lawn equipment, battery powered lawn equipment, and now we're
going to tap into the other thing that you're an
absolute expert at and.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Fishing.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
No, no, not fishing. Someday we should talk about fishing
because that's your true love. M M right right, that's
the big hobby for Kevin. We're not going to talk
about fishing. Let's talk about scuff X. Basically, you've been
doing some really interesting problems solving lately. You know, you've
been having conversations with a lot of different facilities around
our area about some of their ongoing maintenance headache.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You know, why don't you walk us through.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Just the types of places you've been working with and
what kinds of paint challenges they've been dealing with.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Well, what I'm looking for is are the maintenance facilities
where they have some major challenges to keep the walls
looking good. Any places where they have carts gurned, these stretchers,
wheelchairs things, yeah, all those things, or young children that
(16:07):
are aggressive with their boots and stuff against the walls
and schools, So looking at senior living facilities, schools, universities, hotels,
anywhere where they just can't get paint to hold up.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So what are the things that they're running into that they're.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Well, I mean there's lots of touch up regular paints
hold marks. Right, If you like, take your bottom of
your shoe, if it's a black shoe and you kick
the wall, it's going to leave a scuff mark. Same
thing with the gurneys and the wheelchairs and all those things.
They have black rubber on them and they tend to
make a lot of marks in the walls, and that's
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just standard and regular paint just holds it and it's
hard to clean off. Well, we have a product called
scuff X which is kind of remarkable in its ability
to not even have those marks leave.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
They don't show up.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
They don't even show up, and if they do, it's
easy to clean off.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So you start talking to these places like we're these
things things that they were, you know, just they accepted
this is just how it is, and we.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Go, oh yeah, almost have to. And so they have
to paint a lot in order to keep some of
those areas looking good. They have to paint multiple times
a year, which is an expense, and then the products
just don't hold up. So as soon as it's painted,
it shortly starts to look just like it did. So
what I ask them for is those areas that they
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just can't find anything that works, and we give them
some scuff X and they try it out and typically
they're very happy. It'll it'll cut down the amount of
times you have to paint enormously, all.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Right, So you start putting some scuff X in their hands,
like what was the first I mean, are they skeptical
that its going to work out.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Everybody skeptical. We've all been promised to how things are
going to work and this is a next miracle product
and a few of them live up.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So what's your like when you go in there? You
tell them it's it's a miracle product. It's gonna do?
I mean, what do you tell them?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Well, I tell them it is going to work extremely well.
But I don't want them just to believe me, so
I give them some product to try and they test
it out.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Product.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, give them some gallons because I know what's gonna
be the result. I know they're going to be. First
of all, they're going to like the application. It's gonna
go on. Well, it's gonna be very smooth. It's gonna
look like it's sprayed. It's it's a very nice product
to apply.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But how was that different from other products?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
How they apply this just flows and levels and it
feels like an automotive finish is very smooth. So Russian rolling,
rush and rolling give you a phenomenal finish, even rushing
and rolling. But the big difference is it doesn't have
to cure to be durable. It has its durability as
soon as it's dried.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Okay, so other products, you know, not every they have
to cure. Okay, talk about that. How long does cure?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
So latex products typically take up to a month of
fully cure. Usually within a week they're most of the
way to weeks they're pretty much cured. But that's all
time that it's susceptible to abuse and.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
When it is cured, you know most other products.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, it's not never going to be what Scuffe says,
even after the first hour of dry time.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And that's that's our products too.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Right, everything and more products everything.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Just oh, this product and everybody else's.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Scuffox is unique.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's very unique in that regard.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It's just a maintenance coding. It's for facilities where you
have a lot of abuse in the walls. This is
what you want, all.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Right, So you put it in their hands, they start
working with it. You know what, what is the feedback
that you get back?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
They like the application. Typically they're wowed by that, and
then with a little bit of time to live with
it and see how it holds up and how they
don't have the mark showing up like they did before,
or if they do get one, how easy I mean,
I have people to take it. They put their finger
in their mouth and they use a little slava to
clean the mark off the wall.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I've seen people lick that mark right off.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
The wall, just like five or we don't recommend let's
let's use a cloth with some don or something.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, I'm not saying that was the best way to go.
I'm just saying it's stuck in my mind.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
All right, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So you're seeing that kind of success, and I know
that you mentioned in other conversations that we had that
a couple of these places are rolling it out to
you know, you've brought it to one particular facility, but
they've got other buildings, other areas, and.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The word gets out quickly. It's uh, it's a phenomenal product.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So what makes it do what it's doing?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You know, do you have I don't know. Technically, they
don't tell us it's proprietary stuff. It just feels extremely smooth,
like there's very little friction on it, and that's why
it doesn't grab those marks. Now, we've been a right
over top.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
We've done you know, displays in our stores, We've done
displays at events. You know, we've painted half of a
wall with something that you know is somebody else's or
one of our other products. Right, it's something that's supposed
to be as good, you know, resist all of the scuffs,
and half of it is that, and then the same
color will make the other half be scuff X, and
we'll take a tool that will mark that up. And
(21:08):
it literally looks like a like a stage show, like
some kind of act, because it does look that over
the wall, and one half, the non scuff X half
is all dark, all all marks, and it instantly stops
when you hit the scuff.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's pretty cool. The one of the best demonstrations I
saw was when you guys did that designer show and
you had that Cheshire cat. So the piece of drywall
you had looked like just a blank white piece of drywall.
But you'd use two different products, one from our competitor
and then scuff X and scuff X is where you
wanted the everything to stay white, right, the eyes and
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the teeth. Yeah, and everything just appeared as you started
abusing the surface. It was really fun.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It was so smart. I think that that was Hayley's idea.
It was an Alice in Wonderland kind of loosely themed
event and it was it was like, yeah, it was
really cool that cat came out.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
As people started abusing the drywall with the markers.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah. And I put scuff X in an entryway at
my home and it was previously a place where we
had just shoe marks, you know, the kids would come
in and kick their shoes off, Like.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
A boot area is a fantastic area for this at home.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
And I haven't had to do anything to that. It's
been painted that way for probably five years, touched. It
looks great. So where else, you know, we're talking about facilities.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, you know, help people.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Kind of find a place in their own space to
use this. I mean, if you're a facility manager or
you know.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Then then it's no brainer. Any any area that you
can't keep clean or looking good, that's where you want
to use SCUFFE sit at home though, the boot room
or whatever you refer to that a is a great place.
A hallway, kids playroom, anywhere where an extraordinary amount of
abuse is going to happen to the walls, that's where
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you want to use scuff.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Actually definitely did it some hallways. I did it in
a kid's room and been thrilled with the results on that.
A couple of downsides to it, now that I think
about it, and I don't know that they were downsides,
But my kid was a little bummed.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
She was going to hang She.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Had all these little sticky sticky things, yea, and we
looked at which ones are supposed to cleanly remove and stuff.
But she wanted to hang a lot of art on
the wall. And it won't stick. Oh longevity a scuff x,
it just it just won't. It releases over time. So
she's gone another direction. And so I say that was
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a downside, But to me, I think it the alternative
is far worse. I don't want to be screeping these
things off and not be able to get them to remove.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It comes in what finishes.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
A mat, which is a shiny mat. An eggshell sat
is a shiny mat. Most mats come between you know,
I would say probably four and five percent machine. This
is going to be more like eight to ten little.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Bit shinier for a map, but still.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Oh, the durability is off the chart.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
So we've got a mate.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
We've got an eggshell, eggshell, a satin and a sass
semi gloss.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
One other thing just since we're talking about the sheines.
One of the interesting things you brought up when we
were talking about this off air is you had a
facility that had another product. That one was a competitor's product.
It was in a semi gloss and it wasn't holding
up as well. And they were able to not just
put scuff X on and get rid of the scuffs
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and all of that. They also were able to go
to a matte finish, which hid so many more imperfections.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, the picture that the maintenance guy showed me, it
was from another facility other than his, one of his coworkers.
They were using a semi gloss from competitor and not
a problem other than it. Semi gloss is very shiny,
it's going to pick up every imperfection. And the walls
were older and they'd been damaged and repaired, damage and repaired.
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You'll figure this is a senior housing facility that they
just look terrible with that semi gloss. You could see everything.
So they needed to get to a lower machine, but
they needed something durable. Well, here you go. That matt
in the scuff X is probably gonna be more scuff
resistant than that semigloss from the competitor. Not probably it is.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And you got the much nicer look.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah. Yeah, and it looks more uniform afterwards.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, so that's really cool. What about price? How are
you shaken out? You don't have to throw numbers out
theories by people, but yeah, I mean we're to get
them in at a good price.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yes, for the most part, what I see from the competition,
we're able to get them a much better product for
a very similar price.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So it's not like you're paying huge No.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Generally, when I tell them how much scuffack is going
to be, there somewhat surprised because they think it's going
to be a whole lot more.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, it's it's really is.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's one of those things that you know, like you
said at the beginning, we've all been disappointed with promises.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
That's typical sales bitch right.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Right, always is, and you feel bummed out about that.
But it's happened to me. This is one that when
you guys first came out and told us what it
would do. M I was already you know, once bit
and twice shy. I kind of think it's not going
to go nuts on this to like sample it and
see it, and what we saw was so ridiculously cool.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It is very dramatic.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's like a parlor trick.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You know. When you whip out samples and show people,
they generally speaking think that it's all kind of if
they haven't heard about it or seen it, they think
it's a joke, not real until you show it to them,
and my experiences, they go from kind of looking around
and not really focusing on it to being like laser
focused on what is the trick here and how Then
they'll get the tool out of your hand and they're
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trying to make those marks on the scuff x right.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So the demo is really key because everybody has heard
most of us have heard over promises on products that
we're about to buy. And so when I bring out
the demo board and I show them and then they
can use the tool themselves, see just how much more
durable it is, it's from there. It's it's very easy.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It applies beautifully. It's a single component product. You mix
parts with it.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
It's not that expensive.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Haint at right prices out well, you've got all the finishes,
all the Benjamin War colors.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Thirty five hundred colors, and into one of the finishes
in custom matching.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's definitely something to ask about next paint project, whether
you've got a facility or maybe your facility is just
your you know that mudroom that gets a lot of
a lot of use. Definitely checking the scuff X. We've
got it at all the Repcolite stores, stop out, ask
us about it and yeah, just start the conversation.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Sounds good, Thank you, thanks for being here. Appreciate it, Dan,
take care.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
We've been working our way through different exposures rooms with
different exposures. We've covered north facing rooms, south facing rooms,
and the colors you would pick for those spaces so
you can have the most success. Now let's turn our
attention to east facing rooms and we're going to do
that right after this. This is home in progress where
the to do list is long, and that's all right.
(28:01):
We're not crabbing at you. We're not gonna yell at you.
That's how it is. It's how ours is too. It's
probably supported by Repcolite Paints and Benjamin More because home
projects are easier when you've got people you can trust.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
And we're back.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
You're listening to Home in Progress sponsored by repcolite paints
and Benjamin More And right now, let's talk about something
that's sometimes trickier than it seems. Choosing colors for an
east facing room, and fair warning, they can be a
bit of a challenge. Unlike north or south facing rooms,
which have fairly consistent lighting throughout the day, east facing
rooms kind of can have, you know, kind of like
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a split personality thing going on. And here's what I mean.
If your windows face east, you're getting mourning sun. You know,
right away, early morning sun comes in, clean, fresh, you know,
it's slightly warm light, you know, with a soft yellow glow.
It's not the golden, you know, really really powerful light
that you get from west facing rooms in the afternoon,
but it's warm enough to bring to life soft whites, pastels,
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things like that. And that quality of light really makes
the room feel open, It can make it feel uplifting,
It can infuse it with energy, especially in the early
part of the day. So that's early morning, but by
mid morning to noon, things start to shift a little bit.
That subtle warmth kind of fades out and the light
becomes a little bright, it becomes a little more neutral,
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it becomes almost stark, and at this point, many lighter
colors begin to wash out. A warm cream that felt cozy,
for example, at seven in the morning might look nearly
white or even flat, you know, just flat in nature.
By lunchtime, it's just washed out. Then in the afternoon,
everything changes again. As the sun moves to the opposite
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side of the house. The room gets dimmer, and the
light cools a little bit, you know, the quality of
the light cools a little bit, And by early evening
that light begins to take on a gray blue cast.
And that's when even a cheerful color can suddenly feel
cold or muddy or something like that. You know. I
run into this exact problem scenario. It turned out to
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be a bit of a problem. Ran into it myself.
I had this buttery yellow that we had put in
a west facing space, and it was absolutely perfect for
that space. It was exactly what we wanted. It was rich,
it was sunny, you know, it was just so inviting,
so perfect. And I had left over paint from that project,
and I decided, I'm gonna sample it on the walls
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in this east facing living room. And at that point
I wasn't thinking about the living room as being east facing.
I wasn't thinking about that bedroom that had the other
the same color in it as being west facing. It
was just the bedroom in the living room, you know.
I wasn't thinking about the exposure. So I put it
in there. And I did that early in the morning,
because that's how I roll, get up early, start working,
and then I crash in zonk by the afternoon. But anyway,
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in the early morning, when I put it on.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It looked perfect. I thought I was brilliant.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But then later by evening, when I was waking from
my nap, I realized that that color looked weirdly green,
and it really felt off, did not look good. Same paint,
totally different feel from morning to evening. And that's a
perfect example of how much natural light really does shape
the colors that we live with. So all of that
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can be going on in an east facing space. So
with that happening, how in the world do you choose
a color that's not going to mess with you throughout
the day. Well, first thing you got to do is
think about when you use the room the most. If
it's a morning space, you spend most of your morning
time in that room. Maybe it's a breakfast nook or
a bedroom. If that's the case, lean into the warmth
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of that sunrise light that you're getting. So creamy white,
soft yellows, warm neutrals, they're all going to glow and
feel warm and cozy and all of that without feeling overpowering.
Even cooler tones like a pale green or a blue
green can feel balanced and fresh in that early light. Now,
if you're typically in the room later in the day,
when the light has begun to cool off, you're gonna
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need something with some more saturation, more color to keep
it from washing out or from going dull. And this
is especially true for neutrals. You know, cool grays, grayses,
topes with too much gray and not enough undertone, all
of them can end up looking lifeless in the afternoon.
So if that's when you're largely spending time in this space,
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you're going to want to adjust for that.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
So if you are looking.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
For a neutral, make sure that it's got a little
bit of color underneath, you know, color undertones to keep
it interesting through that mid day, you know, part of
the day, when that light really is intense and white
and clean. Now, if you use the room throughout the day,
what if that's the case, you know, you're kind of
there morning, you're there in the afternoon, you're there throughout
the day. Well, then pick the color that you like
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best during the time that you're in the room the most. Right,
that's the best you can do. You've got to make
peace with the fact that it may shift a little
bit later or earlier in the day. As long as
it's not wildly off putting in the other half of
the day, you should be fine. You know, you don't
need perfection around the clock. We're not going to always
get that, you know, when we're working with natural lighting,
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we're not going to perfection around the clock. You just
need something that stays within your comfort zone through the
whole day. Now, one more thing that makes a huge difference,
of course, is artificial lighting. In the afternoon, when the
natural light fades and the room goes cool, your artificial
lighting needs to step in and kind of do some
heavy lifting for you. And that doesn't mean just flipping
on a lamp and filling the room with light. It
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means choosing the right kind of light bulb to use
in your space. A warm white light bulb in the
twenty seven hundred to three thousand Calvin range is usually
your best bet. You know, daylight corrected bulbs might sound
like a brilliant, great idea. Well, the thing is they
tend to mimic noon sun, which, like we talked about earlier,
it can be harsh and it can be stark, and
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especially in a space that's already starting to lean cool,
So warm it up a little bit. That's usually going
to help you. It can change the entire mood of
that space. All right, Well, all that said, let's talk
about paint colors a little bit, and remember everything I
list is going to be in the show notes later,
so definitely look there and check it out, and also
check out our blog. I'll have another post about east
facing rooms, so you can get all these colors in
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that regard. It's going to be easier than listening to
them and trying to remember them. If you're looking for
a fresh, airy look. If that's what you're after, then
warm whites are solid choice. So Benjamin Moore's white Dove,
that's classic. You know, it's creamy. It's a soft white
with just enough warmth to stay inviting all day. Simply White,
another Benjamin war color. It's got a subtle yellow undertone
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that's going to keep it cheerful. If you want something
deeper and richer than those Navejo white, it's going to
give you some depth without getting muddy. Now, grays, let's
say you're looking for a gray. They're popular, but in
east facing rooms, cool grays can get icy, you know,
really fast, So go warmer. If you're going gray, Classic
Gray OC twenty three that's soft and warm, almost an
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off white in bright light.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Balboa missed.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
It's got a little bit of a hint of pink
that kind of keeps it elegant without clashing with the
changing light. Revere Pewter, you know, we see that color
used all the time. That's going to give you a warm,
grounded gray that adds depth without a lot of heaviness. Now,
if you're looking for a dependable neutral, bleaker beige, it's
got soft yellow undertones that will work in the morning
and it's going to hold up later wind's breath. It's
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lighter with a sandy warmth. Now, if you really are
leaning towards wanting to have some color in the space,
we'll go for it. Because eastern facing light works really
well with pale greens, muted corals, blue greens just steer
clear of strong blues and strong purples because they tend
to feel a little bit cold or stark by late afternoon. Now,
one last thing with all of this, and I know
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I threw a bazillion colors at you, the bigger idea
is just remember if you're dealing with an east facing room,
head to the website repco light dot com, find the
blog post or go back and catch this episode again
home and progress wherever you get your podcasts. Then you
can go through it a little more slowly. But one
last thing, don't forget about your trim and your ceilings.
A clean white like chantilly lace that's going to reflect
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the light, it's going to lift the whole room, especially
in the afternoon. So that's something to think about for
those spaces. Bottom line, east facing rooms shift dramatically throughout
the day. That's the big takeaway, and because of that,
there's no one size fits all solution. But if you
think about timing, you know when you're in the room
most often, and you make sure you test your samples
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in different lighting and pay attention to undertones, you can
absolutely find a color that works. If you need help
finding a place to start, stop out at any Repcolite
location and will help you narrow down your options and
help you find something that makes your space look great
from early morning till you go to bed at night.
And that's going to do it. For this episode of
Home in Progress brought to you by Repcolite Paints and
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Benjamin Moore, thanks for joining us today. We covered a
lot from the surprising power of scuff x in cutting
down maintenance and high traffic facilities, to you know, a
good honest conversation about how we still feel about our
ego battery powered lawn equipment. It's definitely worth it. Go
check it out for yourself. And we also jumped into,
(36:56):
you know, a deep dive about how to deal with
east face light and how it can make or break
your paint colored choices.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Hopefully you're walking away with.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
A few new ideas and maybe a little bit of
inspiration for your next project. Now, if you did enjoy
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Speaker 2 (37:27):
So check that out.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And if you've got a question, a topic you'd like
us to cover, or a project that you're struggling with,
we'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Just head to the website and reach out. And I
should mention this.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
If you have a facility that you're responsible for, you know,
a doctor's office, a school, a hotel, a senior living center,
and you're thinking that you might benefit from using Benjamin
Moore scuff x like we talked about last segment, Please
reach out to me and I'll connect you with.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
The right people.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
We might even be able to get some free samples
in your hands. You can try it and see what
it does for your space. So if you're interested, email
tell me at info at repcolite dot com and include
scuff x in the subject of that email. That's info
at repcollit dot com and I'll reach out to.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
You and get the conversation started.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Have a great weekend everybody, and I'll see you next week.
I'm Dan Hanson, Thanks for listening.
You're listening to Home in Progress, sponsored by Recolite Paints
and Benjamin More and today I've got a packed show
and we're covering a little bit of everything. Later on
at the end, I'm going to be digging into how
to choose the right paint colors for east facing rooms.
You know, these spaces can be a little bit tricky
thanks to their shifting light, but with the right approach,
they can really shine.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We're going to get to that.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Before we do, we're going to be looking at Benjamin
Moore scuff X. It's a high performance paint that's making
a huge impact in schools, senior housing and hotels throughout
West Michigan. It's durable, it's washable, it resists scuffs unlike
anything I've ever seen, and in a lot of facilities,
it's cutting down maintenance work in a big way. We're
going to talk about that. I'm also going to be
(00:41):
giving an update on some Ego battery powered lawn equipment
that I reviewed a few years back. You know, back
then I was a huge fan. But the real test
is how it holds up over time.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So what's the scoop? Am I still happy with it?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm going to get to that in a little bit,
but first I want to start with something that happened
to me in front of all my names last week.
It was classic, classic me. So I'm working on replacing
a sprinkler head. All right, I dig it up, I
unscrew the old one, I put the new one in place,
and then I turn the sprinklers back on. Now the
new head is spinning around in a full circle, you know,
(01:17):
And all I need to do to be done with
this job is to dial it in, you know. So
it's hitting the zone exactly the way I want, going
a little bit this way to the right, hitting a
stopping point, and then going back to the left, hitting
the stopping point, and then just repeating that.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's all I need to do.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So I go online, because I can never remember how
to do this just just from memory. I go online
and look it up, and I see how it's supposed
to be done, very simple. So I do that, and
of course it doesn't work. The sprinkler is still spinning
in this slow circle, spraying the road, spraying everywhere. So
I keep doing it, you know, adjusting it the way
the manufacturer says to do, and no luck, no go,
(01:54):
you know, it goes on and on and on like this,
probably thirty minutes or so.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You know, I'm getting re sick of it at this point.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
The kids are trying to help me, but wherever they stand,
you know, I manually adjust the sprinkler quickly, and then
I almost hit them. It's not their fault, I know that.
I know they're just trying to be helpful. But I
needed them to not be there right so I could
just work. There was nowhere that they could choose to
go that I wasn't going to spray them, So I
asked them, just please, please just just fade away into
(02:24):
the background, you know, give me some.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Space to work here. So they do that.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
They can tell I'm a little tense, and I go
back to work on the sprinkler.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm fidgeting of it.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I'm adjusting it, I'm tweaking it, I'm checking the web,
you know, and still I can't make it work. You know,
forty five minutes in, I've probably been working on it.
The kids are far away now on the yard, and
they're giving me the space I need. They can tell
the tension is running a little bit high. The neighbors,
you know, across the street They're all kind of watching
me from their yards because they can see I'm really struggling.
(02:55):
It's really interesting, you know, watching this little guy just
not be able to pull this off. So anyway, all
of that's going on, and in the midst of all
of that, my absolute ridiculous black lab Fern. I've talked
about her on the show. She's sweet, but she's kind
of a dope. She gets loose, you know, away from
one of the kids, and she comes bareing at me.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
She didn't know where I was. All of a sudden
she spotted me.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
She comes busting at me, and I thought she was
going to run on the road, and so I jumped up.
I grabbed her leash, and then I bent over, you know,
to look seriously and deeply into her eyes and convey
the idea that she needed to sit down and behave
all right. So as I'm standing there, hunched over my
backside facing the road, you know, wiggling back and forth,
(03:43):
as I'm trying to convey to Fern that she needs
to be obedient, you know, I'm doing all that three
feet away from a sprinkler that I've completely forgotten about
and which is still spinning slowly around.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Well, you can see where this is going.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Of course, it hit me directly in the bottom, full
blast at you know, at point blank range. It was
a direct hit cold cold water. Let me tell you,
cold well water a powerful jetting blast. You know. I
don't know that I need to explain it much more clearly.
It was an eye opening experience, to say the least.
(04:18):
I jumped higher than I thought I was capable of
jumping at that point. And then I yelled, you know,
nothing in particular, nothing bad, just a loud, startled yell
that was really more like a high pitched you know,
kind of like an ek, you know, and it wasn't
an eke, but it was more that than it was
a yell. It wasn't manly. Let's just say that Fern's
eyes went absolutely wide and she took off towards the house.
(04:42):
I don't think she knew what was going down at
that point, but she was getting the heck out of
Dodge when she saw me jump. The kids they saw
it happen, and they all took off across the yard
in different directions, laughing as they went. I spun around,
you know, trying to act cool, trying to salvage something
of the this moment, you know, like I maybe had
planned this, that this is all part of my sprinkler plan.
(05:05):
I'm going to just take one for the team, you know,
direct hit right for the team, and somehow that's going
to help me get the sprinkler fixed. You know, I
don't know what I'm thinking, but I'm trying to look cool.
What else can you do at that point? Well, I
look at the neighbors and they're all randomly looking everywhere
but in my direction.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know, I clearly they'd seen.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
The whole thing. You know, they're probably still thinking about it.
Do these things happen to anybody else out there? Please
tell me they do? Or am I completely alone in
all of this?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I thought that was a great home improvement story to
start the show, and I was very excited to share
that with you after I've recovered from the experience. I've
been sitting on a donut pillow for about a week now,
but finally I'm able to be, you know, fluid like
I used to be, you know, in movement.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Anyway, I wanted to share that.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Now let's get to the show, and I want to
start by talking about Ego lawn equipment, battery powered lawn equipment.
And to help me do that, I've got Kevin Herman
from Benjamin Moore, believe it or not, here in the
studio with me. Kevin, thanks for being.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Here, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I didn't necessarily want to have you here, Kevin, but no,
I did nobody else to talk to. I know, I
do get bored after a while. I want to talk
about like completely different things. I want to talk about
paint stuff, all right, scuff X in particular. Before we
get to that, I want to talk about yard equipment.
And you know, because that's who we go to for
(06:36):
expert advice, is are the pink guy?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
The pink guy?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, for no matter what we're talking about. No, the
Ego battery powered lawn equipment stuff, it's something that I
bought and talked about on the show probably four years
ago or so, I'm not exactly sure how long ago.
I've had it for a while and I bought an
Ego Ego battery powered weed whip. I have the Hey trimmer,
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and I have the leaf blower, and I got two
battery packs that go with it. When I bought it,
I was not big on battery powered anything, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I yeah, I have the fear too.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah. I just I wanted it to work, and I've
not had good experience with anything like that for that
kind of equipment.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And I did a lot of reading about it, a
lot of reviews I read, and I jumped in and
I loved it. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I think my favorite part, and I mentioned it over
and over again, was the hedge trimmer.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't use that very often. I had an electric one,
and I went through so many power chords.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I've cut them myself.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, just sliced right through them and.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Little shock sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
This made it so easy, you know, just get it
and go the leaf blower. I didn't have to drape
chords over everything. But I was always back on my
mind thinking, you know, how long is this going to last?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Did they have enough power?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah? Well I found out it had enough power, yep,
And how long is it going to last? And the
first after the first year, I came on air and
I talked about it and oh yeah, man, it's still
working good. Uh Now it's got to be my fourth
season and there's still incredible you know. I was doing
the hedge trimmer thing this past two weekends ago, and it's.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Still I'm blown away.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's battery powered and I'm cutting through things that have
to be more than a quarter of an inch in diameter.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know, it's huge.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I can't believe that using it like a like a
I'm using are something.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Should not be I'm sure of that. But it is
going through big stuff, and.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I'm I'm uh. You know. I was definitely partial to
the gas, but I don't like the change oil. I
don't like the maintenance aspects. So I switched over to
some electric stuff a few years ago, and uh, I've
been extremely happy without, especially the EGO products.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Right you switched over, I mean one of the big things,
because we had you on the air talking about it,
and I think it's time to do a little follow
up and you know, let people know how this is
held up. You bought the rider.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It's still forty two. I think they have a couple
different size of the forty two inch riding lawnmore which, yeah,
it has four batteries that it came with ten hamp
hours each and then it has space for two more.
So I could do two acres with that thing without
a problem. If I had all the batteries, so I
do a little over an acre, an acre, one point two,
one point three acre, something like that. And uh, I
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was starting to get a little disappointed the beginning of
the year this year, and has had.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
It last year.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I've had it, and I've had it for this is
my third year, maybe fourth years, had it for a
few years. And the battery charge wasn't holding up like
it used to, and uh what didn't go as fast?
And it seemed to be pulling to one side. And
took a look at it, and all I had to
do was put some air in attires.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Now, I think this is really funny. And you you
are cutting yourself a little too much slack there because
you told me about this last week.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You weren't just I.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Wasn't going to embellish on my stupidity.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Embellish on the stupidity.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You were so bummed.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You know, it's not working, it's not doing this, it's
not doing that. And then you examined it.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
A little more closely, actually paid.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And riding it all over the place, and you look
at it and you said, multiple tires are completely The.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Left tire in the back was basically riding on the rim.
I don't know why I didn't notice the leaning, but
that probably why it didn't want to go straight. And
then the front two tires, I didn't think they took air,
but they have bellf stems on them. They do, It
turns out they do. And one of them was so
flat that it has these weird looking bulges in the side.
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Now that I've filled it.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Up, Oh so now you've damn it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It looks like it has growth because it was running
on flat for so long.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You had another thing that something like a little bolt
or something. Oh, the tightening.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, we don't have to get into all this, but
when I did.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And it would plow a little furrow in your.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, one of the one of the little I guess
carriage wheels underneath the mower assembly. I broke it off
and then I attached it, but the boat was bent
to so I didn't put it all the way back on,
and it kind of dangled down a little bit, and
every time I turned, it would plow the ground either direction,
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left or right.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
That's so funny. This thing is just junk. And it
turns out you're just a terrible, terrible owner.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Well of you know, I don't have to put gas
in it, or oil or anything. So I didn't think
I had to do anything with it. No, it's a maintenance.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Free it needs a little bit of lot.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So now guess what, I'm really happy with it again.
It goes just as fast it goes straight. I'm able
to do the same amount of yard that I was
able to before. It turns out that air and attires
is important.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I think it's hilarious because when you to tell me this,
I thought, oh, no, you don't like it anymore because
we came out and we really advocated.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I didn't like the way it was seemed like it
was working well.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
And it turns out, no, it's it's a happy ending.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You're just I'm just an idiot.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I didn't want to say an idiot. I was thinking dope,
but I don't know if you can say it on
the radio. I think I can. I just did, so
we'll wait for the letters to come.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
So anyway, the bottom line is very happy with it still.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So that's a rider. I know Ego makes battery powered
push more. I was always going to try that. Haley
has one of those. Haley used to be.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I think Dave has one too. Who does Dave helme?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Okay, Dave, he's the general manager at Rappol, he's got
one as well. Does he like that? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I believe he loves it?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Okay? Yeah, I was watching a neighbor guy doing that
the other day with his I don't remember. I think
his was an ego as well. But there are other
brands out there, yes, but utterly silent, very quiet, really.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Really you heard the worring of the blade.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That's and that's what your rider is.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Just truly truly silent, and it flies.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It goes pretty fast. It goes fast enough now yeah,
h it goes much faster, so st these years, still
two thumbs up. Yeah. I was really disappointed a few
weeks ago. Now I'm back to being happy again.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
No, I definitely love mine. I would definitely recommend digging
into it. You know, if you've got gas powered lawn equipment,
that you're using electric stuff, or even if you've gone
the cheap o battery route, you know, those things you
do have to pay to get something that's going to
hold up m h.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And then you have to do a little maintenance, do
a little.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Bit of maintenance mine, right, minor maintenance, but the thing
that I love most about like the stuff that I've got,
the leaf flower, the leaf blower, in the hedge trimmers,
and honestly the weed whip because I had a gas
powered weed whip that I could never keep consistently, you.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Know, easyning start.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That was real pain in the net. And the other
two pieces that I had were both electric. I did
have a gas powered leaf floor, but that was the
same thing. Could never you know, it was I was
never confident that when I go out and need it,
it was going to.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Be ready to go without the same same thing.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I work with it. But with the electric ones, they
were always ready to go. But now I've got to
drape a cord everywhere I go, and that just got
old after a while. And so what I would do
is I just wouldn't do it as often. I would wait,
you know, save it up till I really needed it.
With this battery powered stuff, I can go right away
whenever it's ready to go all the time. As long
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as I've charged the batteries, I'm good to go.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yep, the batteries have to be charged, but they don't
take long.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
No, Well, that's the other surprising thing. Yeah, really quick
on pretty fast. So anyway, I'll put links in the
show notes if you're looking at or still debating the
whole battery powered lawn equipment thing. It's the real deal
and definitely something to look into. All right, let's take
a break, Kevin, and then when we come back, I
want to talk about scuff X and some interesting success
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that you're having with Okay, sure, all right, so good
that in just a minute stick around Home in Progress
is brought to you by Repcolite Paints and Benjamin Moore.
Top to your paint expert advice. Your next project is
way easier than you think it's going to be. Well,
I am still in the studio with Kevin Herman.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
From Good Morning again, Kevin, thanks.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
For waiting with me. Over the break. We just talked
about lawn equipment, battery powered lawn equipment, and now we're
going to tap into the other thing that you're an
absolute expert at and.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Fishing.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
No, no, not fishing. Someday we should talk about fishing
because that's your true love. M M right right, that's
the big hobby for Kevin. We're not going to talk
about fishing. Let's talk about scuff X. Basically, you've been
doing some really interesting problems solving lately. You know, you've
been having conversations with a lot of different facilities around
our area about some of their ongoing maintenance headache.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
You know, why don't you walk us through.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Just the types of places you've been working with and
what kinds of paint challenges they've been dealing with.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Well, what I'm looking for is are the maintenance facilities
where they have some major challenges to keep the walls
looking good. Any places where they have carts gurned, these stretchers,
wheelchairs things, yeah, all those things, or young children that
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are aggressive with their boots and stuff against the walls
and schools, So looking at senior living facilities, schools, universities, hotels,
anywhere where they just can't get paint to hold up.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So what are the things that they're running into that they're.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Well, I mean there's lots of touch up regular paints
hold marks. Right, If you like, take your bottom of
your shoe, if it's a black shoe and you kick
the wall, it's going to leave a scuff mark. Same
thing with the gurneys and the wheelchairs and all those things.
They have black rubber on them and they tend to
make a lot of marks in the walls, and that's
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just standard and regular paint just holds it and it's
hard to clean off. Well, we have a product called
scuff X which is kind of remarkable in its ability
to not even have those marks leave.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
They don't show up.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
They don't even show up, and if they do, it's
easy to clean off.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So you start talking to these places like we're these
things things that they were, you know, just they accepted
this is just how it is, and we.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Go, oh yeah, almost have to. And so they have
to paint a lot in order to keep some of
those areas looking good. They have to paint multiple times
a year, which is an expense, and then the products
just don't hold up. So as soon as it's painted,
it shortly starts to look just like it did. So
what I ask them for is those areas that they
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just can't find anything that works, and we give them
some scuff X and they try it out and typically
they're very happy. It'll it'll cut down the amount of
times you have to paint enormously, all.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Right, So you start putting some scuff X in their hands,
like what was the first I mean, are they skeptical
that its going to work out.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Everybody skeptical. We've all been promised to how things are
going to work and this is a next miracle product
and a few of them live up.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So what's your like when you go in there? You
tell them it's it's a miracle product. It's gonna do?
I mean, what do you tell them?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Well, I tell them it is going to work extremely well.
But I don't want them just to believe me, so
I give them some product to try and they test
it out.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Product.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, give them some gallons because I know what's gonna
be the result. I know they're going to be. First
of all, they're going to like the application. It's gonna
go on. Well, it's gonna be very smooth. It's gonna
look like it's sprayed. It's it's a very nice product
to apply.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But how was that different from other products?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
How they apply this just flows and levels and it
feels like an automotive finish is very smooth. So Russian rolling,
rush and rolling give you a phenomenal finish, even rushing
and rolling. But the big difference is it doesn't have
to cure to be durable. It has its durability as
soon as it's dried.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Okay, so other products, you know, not every they have
to cure. Okay, talk about that. How long does cure?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
So latex products typically take up to a month of
fully cure. Usually within a week they're most of the
way to weeks they're pretty much cured. But that's all
time that it's susceptible to abuse and.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
When it is cured, you know most other products.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, it's not never going to be what Scuffe says,
even after the first hour of dry time.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And that's that's our products too.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Right, everything and more products everything.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Just oh, this product and everybody else's.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Scuffox is unique.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's very unique in that regard.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It's just a maintenance coding. It's for facilities where you
have a lot of abuse in the walls. This is
what you want, all.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Right, So you put it in their hands, they start
working with it. You know what, what is the feedback
that you get back?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
They like the application. Typically they're wowed by that, and
then with a little bit of time to live with
it and see how it holds up and how they
don't have the mark showing up like they did before,
or if they do get one, how easy I mean,
I have people to take it. They put their finger
in their mouth and they use a little slava to
clean the mark off the wall.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I've seen people lick that mark right off.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
The wall, just like five or we don't recommend let's
let's use a cloth with some don or something.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, I'm not saying that was the best way to go.
I'm just saying it's stuck in my mind.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
All right, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So you're seeing that kind of success, and I know
that you mentioned in other conversations that we had that
a couple of these places are rolling it out to
you know, you've brought it to one particular facility, but
they've got other buildings, other areas, and.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The word gets out quickly. It's uh, it's a phenomenal product.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So what makes it do what it's doing?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You know, do you have I don't know. Technically, they
don't tell us it's proprietary stuff. It just feels extremely smooth,
like there's very little friction on it, and that's why
it doesn't grab those marks. Now, we've been a right
over top.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
We've done you know, displays in our stores, We've done
displays at events. You know, we've painted half of a
wall with something that you know is somebody else's or
one of our other products. Right, it's something that's supposed
to be as good, you know, resist all of the scuffs,
and half of it is that, and then the same
color will make the other half be scuff X, and
we'll take a tool that will mark that up. And
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it literally looks like a like a stage show, like
some kind of act, because it does look that over
the wall, and one half, the non scuff X half
is all dark, all all marks, and it instantly stops
when you hit the scuff.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's pretty cool. The one of the best demonstrations I
saw was when you guys did that designer show and
you had that Cheshire cat. So the piece of drywall
you had looked like just a blank white piece of drywall.
But you'd use two different products, one from our competitor
and then scuff X and scuff X is where you
wanted the everything to stay white, right, the eyes and
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the teeth. Yeah, and everything just appeared as you started
abusing the surface. It was really fun.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It was so smart. I think that that was Hayley's idea.
It was an Alice in Wonderland kind of loosely themed
event and it was it was like, yeah, it was
really cool that cat came out.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
As people started abusing the drywall with the markers.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah. And I put scuff X in an entryway at
my home and it was previously a place where we
had just shoe marks, you know, the kids would come
in and kick their shoes off, Like.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
A boot area is a fantastic area for this at home.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
And I haven't had to do anything to that. It's
been painted that way for probably five years, touched. It
looks great. So where else, you know, we're talking about facilities.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, you know, help people.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Kind of find a place in their own space to
use this. I mean, if you're a facility manager or
you know.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Then then it's no brainer. Any any area that you
can't keep clean or looking good, that's where you want
to use SCUFFE sit at home though, the boot room
or whatever you refer to that a is a great place.
A hallway, kids playroom, anywhere where an extraordinary amount of
abuse is going to happen to the walls, that's where
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you want to use scuff.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Actually definitely did it some hallways. I did it in
a kid's room and been thrilled with the results on that.
A couple of downsides to it, now that I think
about it, and I don't know that they were downsides,
But my kid was a little bummed.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
She was going to hang She.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Had all these little sticky sticky things, yea, and we
looked at which ones are supposed to cleanly remove and stuff.
But she wanted to hang a lot of art on
the wall. And it won't stick. Oh longevity a scuff x,
it just it just won't. It releases over time. So
she's gone another direction. And so I say that was
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a downside, But to me, I think it the alternative
is far worse. I don't want to be screeping these
things off and not be able to get them to remove.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It comes in what finishes.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
A mat, which is a shiny mat. An eggshell sat
is a shiny mat. Most mats come between you know,
I would say probably four and five percent machine. This
is going to be more like eight to ten little.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Bit shinier for a map, but still.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Oh, the durability is off the chart.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
So we've got a mate.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
We've got an eggshell, eggshell, a satin and a sass
semi gloss.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
One other thing just since we're talking about the sheines.
One of the interesting things you brought up when we
were talking about this off air is you had a
facility that had another product. That one was a competitor's product.
It was in a semi gloss and it wasn't holding
up as well. And they were able to not just
put scuff X on and get rid of the scuffs
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and all of that. They also were able to go
to a matte finish, which hid so many more imperfections.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, the picture that the maintenance guy showed me, it
was from another facility other than his, one of his coworkers.
They were using a semi gloss from competitor and not
a problem other than it. Semi gloss is very shiny,
it's going to pick up every imperfection. And the walls
were older and they'd been damaged and repaired, damage and repaired.
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You'll figure this is a senior housing facility that they
just look terrible with that semi gloss. You could see everything.
So they needed to get to a lower machine, but
they needed something durable. Well, here you go. That matt
in the scuff X is probably gonna be more scuff
resistant than that semigloss from the competitor. Not probably it is.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And you got the much nicer look.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah. Yeah, and it looks more uniform afterwards.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, so that's really cool. What about price? How are
you shaken out? You don't have to throw numbers out
theories by people, but yeah, I mean we're to get
them in at a good price.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yes, for the most part, what I see from the competition,
we're able to get them a much better product for
a very similar price.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So it's not like you're paying huge No.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Generally, when I tell them how much scuffack is going
to be, there somewhat surprised because they think it's going
to be a whole lot more.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, it's it's really is.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's one of those things that you know, like you
said at the beginning, we've all been disappointed with promises.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
That's typical sales bitch right.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Right, always is, and you feel bummed out about that.
But it's happened to me. This is one that when
you guys first came out and told us what it
would do. M I was already you know, once bit
and twice shy. I kind of think it's not going
to go nuts on this to like sample it and
see it, and what we saw was so ridiculously cool.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It is very dramatic.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's like a parlor trick.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You know. When you whip out samples and show people,
they generally speaking think that it's all kind of if
they haven't heard about it or seen it, they think
it's a joke, not real until you show it to them,
and my experiences, they go from kind of looking around
and not really focusing on it to being like laser
focused on what is the trick here and how Then
they'll get the tool out of your hand and they're
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trying to make those marks on the scuff x right.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So the demo is really key because everybody has heard
most of us have heard over promises on products that
we're about to buy. And so when I bring out
the demo board and I show them and then they
can use the tool themselves, see just how much more
durable it is, it's from there. It's it's very easy.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It applies beautifully. It's a single component product. You mix
parts with it.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
It's not that expensive.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Haint at right prices out well, you've got all the finishes,
all the Benjamin War colors.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Thirty five hundred colors, and into one of the finishes
in custom matching.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's definitely something to ask about next paint project, whether
you've got a facility or maybe your facility is just
your you know that mudroom that gets a lot of
a lot of use. Definitely checking the scuff X. We've
got it at all the Repcolite stores, stop out, ask
us about it and yeah, just start the conversation.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Sounds good, Thank you, thanks for being here. Appreciate it, Dan,
take care.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
We've been working our way through different exposures rooms with
different exposures. We've covered north facing rooms, south facing rooms,
and the colors you would pick for those spaces so
you can have the most success. Now let's turn our
attention to east facing rooms and we're going to do
that right after this. This is home in progress where
the to do list is long, and that's all right.
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We're not crabbing at you. We're not gonna yell at you.
That's how it is. It's how ours is too. It's
probably supported by Repcolite Paints and Benjamin More because home
projects are easier when you've got people you can trust.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
And we're back.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
You're listening to Home in Progress sponsored by repcolite paints
and Benjamin More And right now, let's talk about something
that's sometimes trickier than it seems. Choosing colors for an
east facing room, and fair warning, they can be a
bit of a challenge. Unlike north or south facing rooms,
which have fairly consistent lighting throughout the day, east facing
rooms kind of can have, you know, kind of like
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a split personality thing going on. And here's what I mean.
If your windows face east, you're getting mourning sun. You know,
right away, early morning sun comes in, clean, fresh, you know,
it's slightly warm light, you know, with a soft yellow glow.
It's not the golden, you know, really really powerful light
that you get from west facing rooms in the afternoon,
but it's warm enough to bring to life soft whites, pastels,
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things like that. And that quality of light really makes
the room feel open, It can make it feel uplifting,
It can infuse it with energy, especially in the early
part of the day. So that's early morning, but by
mid morning to noon, things start to shift a little bit.
That subtle warmth kind of fades out and the light
becomes a little bright, it becomes a little more neutral,
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it becomes almost stark, and at this point, many lighter
colors begin to wash out. A warm cream that felt cozy,
for example, at seven in the morning might look nearly
white or even flat, you know, just flat in nature.
By lunchtime, it's just washed out. Then in the afternoon,
everything changes again. As the sun moves to the opposite
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side of the house. The room gets dimmer, and the
light cools a little bit, you know, the quality of
the light cools a little bit, And by early evening
that light begins to take on a gray blue cast.
And that's when even a cheerful color can suddenly feel
cold or muddy or something like that. You know. I
run into this exact problem scenario. It turned out to
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be a bit of a problem. Ran into it myself.
I had this buttery yellow that we had put in
a west facing space, and it was absolutely perfect for
that space. It was exactly what we wanted. It was rich,
it was sunny, you know, it was just so inviting,
so perfect. And I had left over paint from that project,
and I decided, I'm gonna sample it on the walls
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in this east facing living room. And at that point
I wasn't thinking about the living room as being east facing.
I wasn't thinking about that bedroom that had the other
the same color in it as being west facing. It
was just the bedroom in the living room, you know.
I wasn't thinking about the exposure. So I put it
in there. And I did that early in the morning,
because that's how I roll, get up early, start working,
and then I crash in zonk by the afternoon. But anyway,
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in the early morning, when I put it on.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It looked perfect. I thought I was brilliant.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But then later by evening, when I was waking from
my nap, I realized that that color looked weirdly green,
and it really felt off, did not look good. Same paint,
totally different feel from morning to evening. And that's a
perfect example of how much natural light really does shape
the colors that we live with. So all of that
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can be going on in an east facing space. So
with that happening, how in the world do you choose
a color that's not going to mess with you throughout
the day. Well, first thing you got to do is
think about when you use the room the most. If
it's a morning space, you spend most of your morning
time in that room. Maybe it's a breakfast nook or
a bedroom. If that's the case, lean into the warmth
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of that sunrise light that you're getting. So creamy white,
soft yellows, warm neutrals, they're all going to glow and
feel warm and cozy and all of that without feeling overpowering.
Even cooler tones like a pale green or a blue
green can feel balanced and fresh in that early light. Now,
if you're typically in the room later in the day,
when the light has begun to cool off, you're gonna
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need something with some more saturation, more color to keep
it from washing out or from going dull. And this
is especially true for neutrals. You know, cool grays, grayses,
topes with too much gray and not enough undertone, all
of them can end up looking lifeless in the afternoon.
So if that's when you're largely spending time in this space,
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you're going to want to adjust for that.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
So if you are looking.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
For a neutral, make sure that it's got a little
bit of color underneath, you know, color undertones to keep
it interesting through that mid day, you know, part of
the day, when that light really is intense and white
and clean. Now, if you use the room throughout the day,
what if that's the case, you know, you're kind of
there morning, you're there in the afternoon, you're there throughout
the day. Well, then pick the color that you like
(32:38):
best during the time that you're in the room the most. Right,
that's the best you can do. You've got to make
peace with the fact that it may shift a little
bit later or earlier in the day. As long as
it's not wildly off putting in the other half of
the day, you should be fine. You know, you don't
need perfection around the clock. We're not going to always
get that, you know, when we're working with natural lighting,
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we're not going to perfection around the clock. You just
need something that stays within your comfort zone through the
whole day. Now, one more thing that makes a huge difference,
of course, is artificial lighting. In the afternoon, when the
natural light fades and the room goes cool, your artificial
lighting needs to step in and kind of do some
heavy lifting for you. And that doesn't mean just flipping
on a lamp and filling the room with light. It
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means choosing the right kind of light bulb to use
in your space. A warm white light bulb in the
twenty seven hundred to three thousand Calvin range is usually
your best bet. You know, daylight corrected bulbs might sound
like a brilliant, great idea. Well, the thing is they
tend to mimic noon sun, which, like we talked about earlier,
it can be harsh and it can be stark, and
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especially in a space that's already starting to lean cool,
So warm it up a little bit. That's usually going
to help you. It can change the entire mood of
that space. All right, Well, all that said, let's talk
about paint colors a little bit, and remember everything I
list is going to be in the show notes later,
so definitely look there and check it out, and also
check out our blog. I'll have another post about east
facing rooms, so you can get all these colors in
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that regard. It's going to be easier than listening to
them and trying to remember them. If you're looking for
a fresh, airy look. If that's what you're after, then
warm whites are solid choice. So Benjamin Moore's white Dove,
that's classic. You know, it's creamy. It's a soft white
with just enough warmth to stay inviting all day. Simply White,
another Benjamin war color. It's got a subtle yellow undertone
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that's going to keep it cheerful. If you want something
deeper and richer than those Navejo white, it's going to
give you some depth without getting muddy. Now, grays, let's
say you're looking for a gray. They're popular, but in
east facing rooms, cool grays can get icy, you know,
really fast, So go warmer. If you're going gray, Classic
Gray OC twenty three that's soft and warm, almost an
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off white in bright light.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Balboa missed.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
It's got a little bit of a hint of pink
that kind of keeps it elegant without clashing with the
changing light. Revere Pewter, you know, we see that color
used all the time. That's going to give you a warm,
grounded gray that adds depth without a lot of heaviness. Now,
if you're looking for a dependable neutral, bleaker beige, it's
got soft yellow undertones that will work in the morning
and it's going to hold up later wind's breath. It's
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lighter with a sandy warmth. Now, if you really are
leaning towards wanting to have some color in the space,
we'll go for it. Because eastern facing light works really
well with pale greens, muted corals, blue greens just steer
clear of strong blues and strong purples because they tend
to feel a little bit cold or stark by late afternoon. Now,
one last thing with all of this, and I know
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I threw a bazillion colors at you, the bigger idea
is just remember if you're dealing with an east facing room,
head to the website repco light dot com, find the
blog post or go back and catch this episode again
home and progress wherever you get your podcasts. Then you
can go through it a little more slowly. But one
last thing, don't forget about your trim and your ceilings.
A clean white like chantilly lace that's going to reflect
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the light, it's going to lift the whole room, especially
in the afternoon. So that's something to think about for
those spaces. Bottom line, east facing rooms shift dramatically throughout
the day. That's the big takeaway, and because of that,
there's no one size fits all solution. But if you
think about timing, you know when you're in the room
most often, and you make sure you test your samples
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in different lighting and pay attention to undertones, you can
absolutely find a color that works. If you need help
finding a place to start, stop out at any Repcolite
location and will help you narrow down your options and
help you find something that makes your space look great
from early morning till you go to bed at night.
And that's going to do it. For this episode of
Home in Progress brought to you by Repcolite Paints and
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Benjamin Moore, thanks for joining us today. We covered a
lot from the surprising power of scuff x in cutting
down maintenance and high traffic facilities, to you know, a
good honest conversation about how we still feel about our
ego battery powered lawn equipment. It's definitely worth it. Go
check it out for yourself. And we also jumped into,
(36:56):
you know, a deep dive about how to deal with
east face light and how it can make or break
your paint colored choices.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Hopefully you're walking away with.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
A few new ideas and maybe a little bit of
inspiration for your next project. Now, if you did enjoy
the show, make sure to follow or subscribe wherever you
get your podcasts so you never miss another episode.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
And if you've got a second, we'd really love it
if you'd leave us a review.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
It helps other listeners find the show, and it helps
keep us improving, all right, You can catch past episodes,
bonus content and more at repco light dot com.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
So check that out.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And if you've got a question, a topic you'd like
us to cover, or a project that you're struggling with,
we'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Just head to the website and reach out. And I
should mention this.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
If you have a facility that you're responsible for, you know,
a doctor's office, a school, a hotel, a senior living center,
and you're thinking that you might benefit from using Benjamin
Moore scuff x like we talked about last segment, Please
reach out to me and I'll connect you with.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
The right people.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
We might even be able to get some free samples
in your hands. You can try it and see what
it does for your space. So if you're interested, email
tell me at info at repcolite dot com and include
scuff x in the subject of that email. That's info
at repcollit dot com and I'll reach out to.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
You and get the conversation started.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Have a great weekend everybody, and I'll see you next week.
I'm Dan Hanson, Thanks for listening.
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