March 22, 2025 • 39 mins
In this episode of the RepcoLite Home Improvement Show, Dan talks about preparing snowblowers for storage and the unpredictability of Michigan weather. The episode features an engaging interview with Mike Cherry, the owner of Cherry Painting. Mike discusses his background, transitioning from disliking painting to owning his business, and valuable painting tips. They cover essential painting tools, from frog tape to quality brushes, and the importance of using high-quality paint. Mike also shares personal stories, including his love for classic rock and memorable concerts, especially with his family. The episode aims to blend practical painting advice with engaging personal narratives.CHAPTERS00:00 Morning Greetings and Show Introduction00:07 Snowblower Storage and Weather Musings02:33 Interview Preview with Mike Cherry02:56 Demystifying Roller Covers03:21 Roller Cover Nap Thickness Explained05:05 RepcoLite Roller Cover Sale06:01 Introduction to Mike Cherry Interview07:43 Mike Cherry's Painting Journey09:32 Family and Career Reflections17:30 Health and Life Realizations19:26 Music and Concert Experiences19:58 Classic Rock Influence20:50 Concert Memories24:28 DIY Painting Tips31:03 Choosing the Right Paint34:25 Hiring a Painting Contractor37:33 Conclusion and Contact Information
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Well, good morning everybody. Good morning. You're listening to the
repcell like home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore. And
before I get into the show today, I gotta tell
you I saw something this past week. Two different times.
I saw two different people who are so inspiringly, inspiringly,
you know what I'm trying to say, optimistic. Do you
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know what they were doing that made me think that
they were preparing their snowblowers for storage. Yeah, they were
running the gas out of the machines and then getting
them all shut down until next winter. Now, I don't
know about that. You know, we've had some wonderful weather.
I get that, and I sincerely hope that I'm wrong.
(00:44):
But I can't think of a spring break, you know,
on April spring break for the kids in you know,
elementary through high school normally that's first week of April.
I can't think of a spring break that didn't involve snow. Now, certainly,
certainly we maybe won't get enough snow to need a snowblower,
you know, maybe that's what they're thinking. You know, that
won't happen this late in the season, right, that's impossible
(01:07):
for us to get that much snow. We can just
shovel what comes right. Well, I was assuming that. I
assumed that's what these these two people were thinking. And
then I did a little googling and I found this
interesting little fact from one stinking year ago. I don't
even remember this, I have blocked it out, but one
year ago in West Michigan, here's the headline from the
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story record snowfall across West Michigan. On Friday, East Grand
Rapids received eight point three inches of snow. And that
was from March twenty two of twenty twenty four. So
when I read that fun little fact, I did a
little more digging into my own personal records. And guess what.
I put my snowblower away for the season last year,
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the week before that record snowfall. Coincidence, Oh, I don't
think so, there are no such things. So this year,
to help us all avoid that late season snowfall, I'm
keeping my snowblower gassed up and ready to go. You know,
I'm not superstitious, but I'm thinking if I do that,
that's going to keep the snow away, right, So do
(02:12):
with it what you want. Don't forget, though, to run
the fuel out of your snowblower before you store it,
or add fuel stabilizer, you know, whichever route you go,
just make sure that when you do that Winter's done.
Don't spit in Winter's face. Winter doesn't like that. Just
wait until we're sure that he's gone for the year.
Then make sure you remember to prepare your equipment for storage.
(02:33):
All right, That's enough of that. On the show today,
I've got an interview that I recorded with Mike Cherry,
the owner of Cherry Painting, and I'm going to air
a portion of that full conversation, and there's a lot
of ground. We cover everything from how Mike got started
in the business, to his favorite tips and tricks, to
some of his favorite concerts. He's a music buff and
we're going to get into all kinds of interesting things
(02:54):
in that conversation that's coming up now. In the last
little bit that I've got here in this opening segment,
I want to continue trying to demystify demystify the roller
cover aisle. Last week, we talked about the best roller
covers to use on common surfaces. This week, let's look
at the different nap thicknesses, which is just a fancy
way of saying how thick and fluffy the roller cover
(03:16):
is you know which one's the right one to choose
for your project. Well, let's look at it more closely
and see, all right, the three sixteenth inch nap it's
basically a super short nap and it's great for glossy
finishes where you want as little texture, little roller texture
as possible. But here's the catch. It doesn't hold very
much paint at all. So unless you've got a specific reason,
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you're probably not going to want to use this for walls,
so potentially cabinets, doors, situations like that. But if you
listened last week, you remember that I talked about Wooster's
microplush covers. Those microplush covers are thicker naps than the
three sixteenth snap that we're talking about here, but the
fibers are so densely packed that those are pretty much
our go to recommendations when it comes to things like
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cabinet's doors, and so three sixteen cs inch nap covers
they're seeing a little less use these days, but still
they're out there, and now you know why you'd use one. Now,
next up, we've got a three eighths inch nap. Now,
if you're painting walls, this is pretty much your go to.
It holds a good amount of paint, it applies it evenly,
and it keeps lap lines to a minimum. Basically, it
helps you work efficiently without creating a textured finish. That's
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the three eighths inch nap your go to for walls.
Now half inch nap. If you're painting a textured ceiling,
a rough wall, brick, even block wall in a basement,
you need something thicker than those three eighths inch nap
covers and that's where this half inch nap comes in.
It carries more product and helps you get into those
nooks and crannies much easier. Now, the last one we'll
look at are the three quarter inch nap covers and thicker.
(04:44):
If you're painting extra rough surfaces, stucco, brick, exteriors, super
uneven surfaces, this is where you'd probably use one of these.
So how do you choose which is right for you
for your project? Well, here's the general rule. Use the
shortest snap that will work for what you're doing. You know,
don't go thicker unless you actually need it. And again,
if you're not sure, just ask us and remember Wooster
(05:06):
prodocy FTP roller covers are on sale at a great
price for the rest of the month at Repcolite. So
if you're a painting contractor, it's perfect time to stock
up on high quality supplies at a really good discount.
If you're a di wire, even if you don't have
a paint project lined up right now, grabbing a few
premium roller covers is a really smart move. When the
next painting project does come up, whether it's planned or unexpected,
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sometimes those pop up. When that happens, you'll be ready
with top tier tools. You know you're not gonna be
scrambling or settling for lower quality options. You'll have good
covers waiting to go. And remember we talked about it
last week. A cheap or inferior roller cover can make
the best paint, the most expensive paint in the world,
look bad. The cover is definitely not the place to
(05:49):
skimp to save a few bucks. All right, let's take
a break. When we come back, I'll be chatting with
Mike Cherry from Cherry Painting. That's next stick around. Welcome
back to the Repcolite Home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore.
And right now I've got something new that I've been
working on for a while on a daily basis. At Repcolite,
(06:11):
we work with some of the best painting contractors in
the industry, and from time to time I've had a
few of them on the show here. But moving forward,
you know, into this year, twenty twenty five, I want
to shift gears a little bit and I want to
use the radio show to shine a spotlight on many
of these painting companies as many as I can connect with.
I think it's a really good way that we can
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say thank you to them. You know that Repcollite can
say thank you to them by just sitting down and
talking with them and letting them tell their story to
a large audience. You know. So that's really good. But
it's also really good for you as listeners. You know,
you can use these spotlight interviews that I'm going to
be playing throughout the year, not every week, but throughout
the year, use them as an opportunity to conduct your
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own interviews of these contractors. You know, unless you've got
a painting contractor that you've worked with in the past,
can be a little daunting to try to find the
right company to hire the next time you need some
painting done. These interviews and discussions should really help you
determine which companies you find yourself connecting with. It's a
long form discussion and by the end you're really going
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to have a good idea of who each company is,
who each person is, how they work, and if they
could be the right company to hire the next time
you need some painting done. All right, With all of
that said, today's interview is with Mike Cherry, the owner
of Cherry Painting, and if you like what you hear,
there's plenty more, a whole lot more. You can catch
the full interview on our YouTube series The Interviews. Just
(07:36):
had to reptollites YouTube page and check it out. All right,
that's enough of that. Let's jump into my conversation with
Mike Cherry from Cherry Painting. All right, let's start at
the beginning. You know, your dad, I know, played a
role in you becoming a painter.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Still plays it, still still play, still plays the role
of I would whatever chief executor. He's pretty on call
all the time. You know, I got a question here
and there and what they did. And you know, obviously
paints advanced in the last since he started back in
the late seventies.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Because he was doing this.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
First, he went on the side. Yep, he did on
the side with a friend of his. They were doing
some suburban Detroit stuff, Milford area, Waterford Mott Now all
that area that was developing is still developing now, but
really developing back in the late seventies early eighties boom.
So they were going subdivision and subdivision young kids. My
(08:28):
dad was an eighteen year old kid, I believe at
the time, seventeen eighteen and just working on a crew
that his friend's brother started. Okay, went on to get
a degree he was doing. He taught for thirty five
thirty six years at what level. He was a high
school so.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
He was high school teaching. In the summers, he's painting, correct,
real common we see.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
A lot yep, yep that And I see wrote construction
guys doing some of that too. They come in and
they'll paint in the winter time when they're off. So
but yeah, anyway, he's he did that for my whole life.
I'm thirty, just turn thirty two. So as long as
I've known my dad, he's painted in the summertime. So
enjoyed it. I hated it. I actually absolutely hated it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So when did you start with him?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So I was probably fourteen thirteen, fourteen years old. He
was really good. My brother and I were really active
in sports. So my brother went on to be a
coylege athlete and running and stuff and all American and
all that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
People would have to be chasing me to get me.
Oh that's what everybody's then I have to pay. Sure
it's really worth while.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Sure, I'm glad one of us could do it, could
do that. I was just not that, not gifted like that.
So he's got a great job fifth grade position in
Grand Haven. Now loves it.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Your brother, yep, so he teaches as well.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
He teaches as well.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
My dad's still teaching.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Dad retired three years. This will be three years in June.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Brother teaches fifth grade.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Fifth grade. Yep. His wife teaches. My aunt taught. My cousins.
Both teach one in Utah, one in Shelby Heart Area.
I actually it's my degree, got a degree in teaching.
Long you know the day and backstory. He didn't really
want us to like it, so in fact I hated it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Our mission accomplished that he did.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He he made us hate it. We had not like
super long, but ten hours as a fourteen year.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Old kid feels like an eternity.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well, and we again, how many closets can you do it?
Where he let us through closets? You know, that's about
where he trusted us. But it was either running long,
long hours or long long distances during the weekends and
after school and then of course summer break. You don't
want to get a job, then you better get good
at something. So you know, now, all these years later,
(10:34):
I am so blessed he took me in and had
me do that with him.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So how long did you do that with him? Until
you decided off and on?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I wasn't, like I said, I didn't really like it,
And like again, how many closets can you do to
where you go, Wow, this where am I going to
progress into the next thing? I didn't know how.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You weren't looking at it as Okay, I'm going to
build this, know something you're looking for another?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Not a chance? Not a chance. There was a goal
for sure to get a degree in something. At that point,
fourteen year old kid, I didn't know what I want
to do. Sometimes I still don't know what I want
to do. No, I uh, so we go go to
went to high school, and and and finished really well
in my class, and got a pretty good scholarship academically
at Grand Valley State and then finished as with a teacher.
(11:17):
I still liked teaching. It was just a matter of
could I do this for thirty five plus years?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So did you start teaching?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Started teaching? Yep, I had a position I was as
I was secondary AD as well social studies as my
major in a history minor. I didn't become real first
in picking my minor, but I just loved history. So
I went, you know, did that want that whole route?
And decided, like I did two years of long term
(11:46):
sub positions, had a few full times across the state
that had offers to go, and just didn't want to move.
Liked it here. I had a longtime girlfriend at the time,
and and I just did not want to go across
the state. I love my family here, I love West Michigan.
This is where I want to put down my roots. So,
you know, patients, right, patients, patients, And then I don't know,
(12:07):
probably three years of just subbing all over in Oego County,
Oceana County two, and I think I just got burnt
out and I just wasn't sure. Academics was my thing.
So what do you do now?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
What are you gonna do now? Son Gold and you
got to pay this money back and YadA, YadA, YadA.
And then COVID hits and we have the whole COVID
deal and well you can don't have to pay your
loans right now. And again long stories, but fall back
on what was something I thought I hated was painting.
(12:42):
So then the cash flow comes in and now you're
now I'm eighteen at the time or nineteen, and going, well,
I like that cash. Yeah, it's pretty pretty quick. And
we were in and out and you know, we got
a full home and repaint and just doing walls and
so I like that money. And then it became the
people starting to talk to people like not here, I'm coming,
(13:04):
still working with your dad, still working with my dad, yep,
but we're talking homeowners and you're starting to go to
the trades. And I at this time I was pretty
heavily into Sherwin Williams. I just had got into that
that went that route, and you saw the light. I
saw the light. Yeah, I had Aaron Van Dlson. I'll
give him a shout out. He's my rep and and uh,
I don't know where it was somewhere I was doing
(13:25):
a house on like Michigan an exterior and Aaron van
Dlson it gave me his card or something I can't remember,
and hey, mind if I come out and take a
look like salesmans do. Yeah, yeah, and uh been one
of the best decisions I've made professionally, was that, right?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There was what just letting him stop out and talk?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yep, yep?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
What was so good about that?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Aaron's just a great guy in general, very approachable. He's
I mean, he's I think he I don't know if
he feels like he felt found his calling. I hope
he does, because that's he's got it. He's got the
personal skills, the people skilled. Yeah. So that again, that
was probably just it, not not really. I mean, to me,
paint sometime is paint. But again, back to the people,
(14:07):
Back to the people. I was getting another wrap every
six months. Again say I'm so and so, Hey, I'm Bob,
I'm I'm gonna hear your new seals. Well, what happened
to Joe or filling the blank name? So I donet
I didn't like that. I was really not into that
game as much. So I get in with replight. I'm
out of Miskeige in Port City.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Abe, yeahy Roy.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't think Roy's he's gonna outlive me. So we're
gonna he's gonna keep going. And Abe and and Ryan
up there, and Aaron and and Riley. It's it's just
a good crew.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So and it's steady. It's it's you know that they
don't go away. No, we don't do have a lot
of turnover. And I know that's such a big deal.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's been a lot of fun. I hope he continues. Obviously,
it's I'm not going anywhere. They're obviously not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So when did you start off on your own or
or you're yeah, or does your dad work for you? Now?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, he's a he's pretty much retired. Occasionally he'll come out.
He likes to prime. He likes to come out and
prime runs a sprayer Sometimes. I like to get him
a workout for back roll and ceilings. He liked to
do that.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I have him do some closets or something. Yeah, yeah,
he's on the tables.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Sure, sure, yeah. We so we transitioned into that got
really lucky. Dave douson Dan Custom Homes, where I've been
the last probably three years, took a chance on me.
So we and and my dad at the time, and
and that blossomed into well, you know, going from bathrooms
literally bathrooms and residential repaints of walls and ceilings, very
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little trim at that time, and it's been new construction
ever since. I don't like parents paving paradise to put
up a parking lot. I don't like that, but I
do like the money.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It's always that balance. Sure, how much can I tolerate?
Sure enough?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, I know. I My grandparents had a big and
before I was even around, had big swet land and
stuff that that's starting to develop, and you just you
hate to see that.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But well you're not developing it, you're just making it
look good. Right, No, it's gonna be there anyway. It
might as well look good.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I tell everybody, I look, I can't stop this from happening.
I just got to go along for the ride. So
and again I'm blessed for that. So yeah, we we
just my dad's kind of transition out of I mean,
he's just an elder, right, he's my dad. He's my
really between my dad and my brother and best friends.
We never really got I mean, father's son get a
(16:30):
little heated when now your son is your cult boss,
which I never like to, never ever want to experience.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
That sounds loaded.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, I never want to. And I hope my dad
never felt that way, Like I was watching over him
that kind of thing. He's the one that taught me.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Right, So there's no it is a weird dynamic.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's a very weird dynamic. How dude, is you know
teaching me to walk and talk?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
And how do you get after your dad?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah? How do you get off of your own? And
I think for me, it's just sometimes it's a speed thing,
you know, It's like I want it done, you gotta
do it right. He knows to do it correct. But
now there's that fine line between speed and you know
how like how we Hey, I can't have you taken
two days to you know, fill your sale.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
We're gonna have to let you go.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Ah, Dad, I really don't want to have to let
you go here.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But now that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
No. So yeah, so he just kind of transitioned out
a little bit. He's he's enjoying his retirement's traveling quite
a bit he developed parkins He had Parkinson's diagnosed with Parkinson's.
About man, this is probably year six now, okay, And
so I think that was a that's a very big
eye opener for all of us in our family. So
he's he's just loving. He lost both his folks last year.
(17:48):
Twenty twenty four is a tough year for for us
as a family and him. Yeah, and it's his you know,
So I I think he just I don't want to
say you don't you see that light demorin right, don't
want to say that, but I just you only have
so much time to do the things you want to do, right,
And not that he doesn't want to play second hand
to his son in some house in Muskegon County, But boy,
(18:12):
there's a lot of United States. There's a lot of
world out there to do.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
My dad had a heart attack, I don't know, three
years ago or so, and it was one of those things.
He was so so healthy, you know, always doing something.
He's hauling something out of the basement, a big piece
of furniture, you know. Yeah, because that's what he does.
He just completely pushes himself beyond what's normal d do
passes out at the top of the steps, complete eye opener,
open heart surgery, you know, and doing well again. But
(18:39):
it was that wake up call where you think, man,
you take so much for granted, you know, especially when
your parents are clicking along just fine, right man, You
just don't know what's coming. You want to make the
most of what you've got.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And I'm so glad he's able to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll
get back to more of my interview with Mike Cherry
from Cherry Painting. Stick around and we're back. You're listening
to the Repcolite Home Improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore,
and we're going to jump back into my interview with
Mike Cherry, owner of Cherry Painting. But before I get
things moving again, I want to remind you that there's
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much more to the interview. You can catch all of
it in glorious full color video on repco Lightes YouTube page.
Just check out our new series The Interviews. All right,
let's get back to Mike Cherry from Cherry Painting. Your
huge music guy, yeh yeah, concerts. You've seen everybody from
the Rolling Stones to Paul McCartney. Now see that's about
(19:34):
as big as it gets for me, what's been the
best concert experience that you've had?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, because I said you mentioned that, I mentioned in
our interview the questionnaire you gave me so many. I'm
trying to think on my way here, even how many
had been to at the young and energetic age of
thirty two. Why is a thirty two year old loving
the Stones right or even Paul McCartney.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
And because they're all very good.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They're all very very good, and I don't I guess again,
my dad instilled in me or sometimes a lot of
people listen to their dad stuff too, or mom stuff
back in the my mom loves heart and you know
it's I love it too, you know, And I don't
know it never left me, and that that never ever left.
I kept listening classic rock. Step in any job site
(20:25):
and they're listening to some classic rock. There's a couple
of head bangers in there, and you know, occasionally we've
got some gospel going on over here, and it's different floors. Yeah,
everybody's got their job site radio. Which Flora are you
on today? So I never have to bring my radio.
I never have to bring anything.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Because you can tolerate the music. The music whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I love every one of them. You know, I've seen everything.
You saw Chris Dawtrey, I mean Sawrey American Yeah, yeah, top.
I think he's tenth or something in American Idol.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
When did you see Paul McCartney, Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Man, I must have been. He was in Grand Rapids.
For those listening helped me out. They was ingrind right,
I was in Grand rapp where I know, you know what,
so many people have said that, like, I can't believe
I didn't go, And you know who really wanted to
go most out of all this. My dad's a massive
Beatles fan. My mom she wanted us to go as
a family. I was probably seventeen eighteen. Again, there's that
(21:25):
The date is on there somewhere, we can find it
on Google. But he came, and I think my mom
just said, well, he's never gonna come to Grand Rapids again.
And of course I'm thinking, nah, he's probably gonna come
to Grand rap fan and it's pretty big, and I
think my mom was right. Yeah, I don't think he
will ever.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Did you all go as agree?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
We all want my brother myself?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Did she scream?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Nope, she didn't scream as much. I think my dad
cried a little bit. Okay, I didn't. Yeah, yeah, I
don't think, uh, you know, I think I did, probably
cried her and let it be. I get my emotions
through my dad. It was just again something at the
time said, I listened to it my whole life. Well,
I'm not a seventy year old man or a sixty
year old man or fifty year old man that had
(22:05):
listened to it his whole life. But I listened since
I was, you know, old enough to listen to music
ten years old or something that my dad would have
Let it be right, you know, I've Yeah, the angels
came down. I think at that we're on sitting in
our row, probably just sitting in all of Banelreena so cool. Yeah.
So whenever he was there, we just I just saw
(22:26):
the stones last summer, last June, I believe it was
down at Cleveland. So I went to the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame and did the saw the stones
and we had great seats. Another friend of a friend
of mine, another guy I painted his house, become really
good friends with. My dad was friends with We're going
to see the stones together. So it was him and
his son. My dad actually did have open heart surgery
(22:48):
that week, so he was not able to go. We
were all supposed to go. He was not good. You
had a triple bypass, totally unexpected. Obviously we're glad we
he caught that. Yeah, caught it before that could have
got really bad in there. Yeah, like you're mentioned, so
he wasn't able to go, but you know, we said,
hopefully it comes around again. But yeah, so the stone
(23:09):
Stevie Nicks a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Anyone jump out at you is like that one.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, yeah, circle back around. Jackson Brown is my dad
and I favorite. Definitely was my dad's favorite and became
my favorite, probably because again because of my dad. We
love James Taylor and Jackson Brown. It was just those
are the two and they stuck. They've always stuck out
to me. That was probably my favorite. We saw them
third row at Vanandel. Jackson Brown actually opened for James Taylor.
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This is right after COVID masks.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I remember this, yep, And when it happened yep.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I had to have a mask on of course, and
it was just like maybe that was part of it too.
We had all no no no, no, no no. Well,
I think we had all We couldn't do anything. Couldn't
even go to the get a burger, you know, downtown
or so a lot of that stuff we take for
granted now, Oh yeah, I hope hope people do not,
(24:01):
but I did and we couldn't do it. And guess
what else we couldn't do? Go to concerts right full
of ten thousand people or whatever they fit at Van
Andle So we had that right after COVID. So it
was just like sure, and then to have both your
guys right, both your guys you listened to that. My
dad listened to and learned to play guitar from those guys.
(24:22):
That was probably my most important memory.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, that's that's really cool. So getting back to paints, Sure,
I'm curious you got a lot of people out there
listening di wires and stuff like that. We haven't talked
about this. I'm curious about just some practical ideas. You know,
what's the number one you know, if you would think
of like rookie mistakes, Yeah, that people make that the
diires out there could be stumbling through and could probably
(24:47):
try to avoid.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Ah man, you know, I the advancements in paint itself
has gone way just since I have not been painting
as long as as many of you listening, and you
know way more than I do. You know, I just
think our tools are are huge, and I'll maybe think
of something as am. This's a great question anyway, frog tape,
(25:09):
for example, Let's just go down there. Let's go down
just in our tools. There are painters that I know,
and we won't mention that any of their names that
don't like frog tape, and I just don't understand it
or or don't want to spend the money for it,
and we'll go with the original blue or so I
don't know, or some of you are there going, oh
my gosh, I can't believe you still use tape. What
(25:30):
do you mean those guys that don't. I can cut
straighter than nobody cut straighter than tape except me kind
of think.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Talk about so frog tape. First off, for anybody out
there who's not aware, it's just it's a special tape
that's got it's chemically altered so that when the water
from the water based paint hits the edge of the tape,
it feels it yep. And if it's guaranteed or the
design it's designed to prevent that point paint bleed through.
That's so frustrating.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
It happens. It's still going to happen. If your baseboards
are clean and you're taking a damp brag before your baseball,
you know, before I'm sure dust settles on it. It's
I'm not gonna say it's impossible to get a bleed,
because it's still gonna happen. The paint bleed is inevitable.
It's going to happen, but it's much harder now with
that particular tape, that particular tape. So I love the
(26:17):
frog blue because I can get them in six packs
one inch or point nine to four inch.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You know, they blue, there's green and yellow. They all
do different things. He talked about them on the show
multiple times. Yeah, and so you use the blue.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I love the blue because I can get again, get
them in six packs a little bit cheaper. You don't
have to buy the the the green with the with
the hard case that I mean, I've those to me.
That's the premium, right, it's the I would use that
if I absolutely thought I didn't trust myself for some reason.
The blue, I just love it. You can get them
in six packs, yeah, yeah, contractor deal and so what
(26:53):
of them?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
What about those folks who are saying and like you said,
there are people yep, hollering at the at the at
their phone or however they're listening to this that you know,
they don't tape. They get that clean line without you tape.
Do you tape on everything.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Or not everything? If they yeah, I mean if it's
most new constructions. I mean, of course, no one's taping
their ceiling. I mean some that do not. No offense
to anybody that is that's a douire that doesn't feel
like they can cut a straight line on your ceiling.
By all means, whatever gets the job done. There's not
a wrong way right way. There's the only right way
(27:26):
is your way and what you are happy with.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah. The wrong way is forcing yourself into a system
or a mode of operation that's outside of what you
know you're really comfortable doing, in order to mimic what
you think somebody else who's a professional should be doing.
We're not professional, or that told you was that's the
only way, So you do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, I wouldn't. There is no only way, and probably
anything just ask YouTube. There's a bunch of different ways
to do things. So, yeah, I just love frog tape
and as far as you know, troubleshooting and stuff, I
I like to use a wet right, little wet rag
before I know it it does. It seals the paint
(28:08):
a little better.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You get the tape down and then you'll hit it
with a wet rag.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Very not and I'm not saying some people think they're
gonna soak it. Yeah, don't do that. I would not
do that. You don't want to just soak that paper.
But yeah, just just lightly before you go around with
your first coat, that will ensure a definite better seal.
You can feel, you can actually feel a difference when
you go to peel it.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You're just preactivating that that that chemical is gonna exactly seal.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I didn't know that. I mean, I think they probably
do show that now on on frog tapes sometimes, you know, demonstration,
they'll actually show that I did. Somebody told me, another
painter told me that, so I gave it a try
and he was right. You know, it's one of those
Thank you whoever told me that, if you're listening, thank
you so much, because I use it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Do you think that it speeds up? You know, because
the argument is going to be that I can go
way faster just cutting in by eye.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And I'm sure that's the case for some people. Sure,
But for you, you feel like you're faster taking the time
or is it just that you're more efficient, I get
a better.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Job, Yeah, I think whatever is. I'm super addicted to
getting the best job I can get and my own
worst enemy sometimes where if this takes me a little
bit longer, and of course that time is money. We
all know that in this trade or any trade. Again,
if it sacrificed my time, you know, if I'm going
a little faster and it's sacrificing the results of this job.
(29:28):
It's someone's dream home that we're dealing with here, whether
it's sold or not, it's somebody's going to purchase this,
And I just I always worry about what someone else
is thinking, or somebody's going to see that later on.
They might not see it right away, and wonder somebody
like I just cut that corner. Whether they say that
or not, it's in my mind they're going to say that.
So it drives me nuts. So a little bit of
(29:51):
perfectionist there, but to your best, that's what I use.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
The tools that are available. Sure, so frog tape, other
tools that jump out.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
In oh, I mean just everything from a real quality brush. Again,
use quality stuff. It goes longer if you clean it out,
you do it. They're a correct way in your job.
I think, in my opinion, is gonna benefit from that.
The homeowner is gonna benefit from that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And let's take a break right there, and then after
the commercials, we'll be back for the conclusion of my
interview with Mike Cherry from Cheery Painting. Stick around and
we're back. We are absolutely just cruising right along. You're
listening to the Repco Light Home improvement show sponsored by
(30:38):
Benjamin Moore, and I've got the conclusion to my interview
with Mike Cherry, owner of Cherry Painting. But again, one
more time before I get to that interview, I want
to remind you that there's much more, like thirty five
more minutes of content, a lot of good fun stuff,
and you can catch all of it on Repcoal Lights
YouTube page. Just check out our new series the Interviews.
(31:00):
All right, here's the conclusion of my interview with Mike
Cherry from Cherry Painting. So different products, what about paint
and you know, I talk about this because I'm marketing
paint and selling paint, and so I know how people
potentially listen to that. Yep, you know I'm the guy
selling it. You're the guy buying it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You just talked about frog tape, talked about brushes, all
of that. The good stuff matters. How do you feel
about paint? I don't know what you're gonna say on this.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, all right, I'll open the can of worms.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, just say.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Somebody will go, what in the world are you talking
about it? This? And this? There's there's a definite I
struggle like everybody because I'm the one trying to sell
it to a homeowner. You sell it to me. Yep,
I have something that I might like that it rolls
off the brush well or feeling you know, what's got
the most washability for the less the leachine. Right, everybody's
looking for that perfect scenario, that perfect paint. Can I
(31:51):
still get it for thirty dollars a gallon, No tried double,
and then we'll work. I you know, I'm I've really
become I have a deep appreciation for care Free Repco Lights.
Care Free I getting at a great deal. I feel
like the eggshell's got some decent washability. The homeowner wins,
(32:15):
it looks great. I like it because I'm winning a
little bit. And I mean, if we both win here,
what's the trade off? Right? Is it going to scrub
like scuffax? No? Absolutely not. If you wanted that, then
go with scuff X. But that middle ground for me
is that is that care free? Do I use scuffax
on every single one of my trim jobs, regardless of price? Yes,
(32:39):
that's all I use. It's what I love to use.
Looks great to me, it's it's my go to the
di wires. Painting your own home, how do you how
do you justify seventy dollars gallon paint? Well, it's gonna last,
gonna look great, your kids can beat the heck out
of it. You should be able to wash scrub it
quite easily without seeing a massive sh change and all
(33:00):
that kind of thing. So yeah, back to that main
party of question, get the best that you can, that
you're that you can afford.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Like you said, the thing that I always try to
make the case because my default position is money saving,
you know, on everything that I buy. And as I
get older, I get wiser, and you realize that it's
worth spending the extra cause it's gonna last longer. Now
I can't spend the extra on everything. I still have
to make adjustments. So you still have to make those decisions.
Where can I, you know, afford to make the cuts.
(33:27):
And that's why the second secondary bedrooms and things like that.
Closets can be different products. But when you talk about Okay,
I'm gonna drop the big bucks, I'm gonna get scuff
x big bucks. But you know it feels big in
terms of a gallon of paint, and I'm going to
put that on, you know, as a di wire. Especially
thinking about it that way, the amount of work, you know,
using a quality paint, it applies easier usually, so you're
(33:50):
gonna it's gonna be either the same amount of work
or easier a little bit. To use a better product,
you're not gonna have to do it nearly as often. Correct,
that's the downside with the cheaper thing. You may save
some money, work is the same and you're doing it quicker. Again,
So if you don't love doing it, drop that extra
ahead of time and you'll save money in the long.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Run, and a lot of you if you're listening to
the show. You actually like painting, you know, you're actually
or at least you're interested in the trade or like
doing your own home.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
So you find the best thing you can afford.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I think. So that's I'm going to have some Yeah,
get the best that you can afford.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
No, that's good advice. And you know when people are
hiring contractors, you know they're they're contacting you. Now you're
working for a builder. But do you have any advice
out there for people who are looking to hire somebody?
And what are some things they should be looking for?
What are maybe some red flags.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
That you would see in the workers?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
You mean, yeah, I'm thinking in the people that they're
you know, they're trying to get a contractor into their home. Sure,
what should they be looking for?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
So red flags for me, I mean you can tell
right away a personality of somebody and how you're going
to go. And I'm there's some guys that are amazing salesmen,
that are painters, that are going to sell you on
some thing. They've never done it, the fake it till
you make it, you know, beware of those. But they're there.
Those guys are there, those women are there, They're they
(35:10):
can they can sell you on a great job, and
and whether you get that is going to be in
right in time. Sometimes it doesn't work out. Sometimes it doesn't.
You got a heck of a deal. I'm not the
cheapest guy, but I promise you you're going to be happy
when I leave. And that just doesn't mean with your job.
(35:30):
You know, you're not clean hands and the smiles and
our personality and anybody that I bring onto the crew
is going to treat you like it's their home. And
like I mentioned a little bit before, I have now gone.
I mean We're going to the Rolling Stones with fans.
I'm going to Chicago music usually around music with people,
with people that I didn't know from ahead of time.
(35:53):
Next thing, you know, we're we're best friends. And that's
I'm not tooting my own horn there or anything. I
just think once you can develop that relationship with them,
with homeowners, and it's not always going to be that. Right,
someone's going to pay you via Venmo or something right
off the bed and then they're never going to talk
to you again. Please pass on my name. That's the
main thing. I think. That's six hundred dollars starewell I
(36:14):
did or fill in the blank. Job you did for
them is great right now. But if they don't say, hey,
you know, Pat, Bob's biller did a great job on
this and he bah bah bah, and he was clean
and they were friendly and you'll really like them, then
your business has stopped. That.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I think that's really important. You know, that's really something
that I think a lot of people probably don't think about.
I didn't think about that, and I think it's probably
something super easy that we can do as homeowners because
we've all had you know, I haven't had people come
in paint in the house, because I would do that,
But there's other things where I've had people come in
and I've been so thrilled with the work, you know,
(36:56):
and I thank them immensely. I've sent them a really
nice email, and that's all really good, yep. But what
I could do that's really going to help turn things
around is give their name out exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You know. Obviously you need that money, Okay, you need
you got to pay your bill for that month, but
the bills don't stop coming, your mortgage doesn't stop. I
mean some of you again paid it off, awesome, but
you need a new car three hundred bucks is not
out of the question anymore to go to the grocery store.
You're working for that next suggestion, that that next referral.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
So with that said, do you want to give your
name out your contacted Yeah, people want to show.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, you can Cherry Day or ww do at Cherry
dash Painting dot com. And I've got all my stuff.
I'm getting a little better at updating that and updating
on the website. You can get me at Cherry m
Painting at gmail dot com or even two three one
two two five five zero three two is my cell.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Thanks Mike for hanging out anytime.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Man, I really appreciate this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
And that's gonna do it. That's all the time we've got.
If you want to catch this episode again, you can
find it online at repco light dot com. And while
you're there, make sure you check out our other episodes
as well as our blog and all of the other
ridiculously cool stuff that we've got there. And if you're
a painting contractor and you would like to be featured
on our show in an upcoming episode, please reach out
(38:15):
and let me know. I'd love it. You can contact
me at radio at repco Light dot com. Just send
me an email and we'll get things moving. And really,
if you've got a painting contractor that you love working with,
maybe you're not a painting contractor, but you've hired a really,
really good one and you'd like to recommend that they
get some airtime. Just send me an email with that
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(38:38):
light dot com. Everybody wins when we highlight great companies
like Cherry Painting. Mike gets some good exposure and you
get introduced to some of the best painting contractors in
our area. All right, whatever you do today, make sure
paints a part of it, and remember your next painting
project is way easier than you think. Stop out at
any repco Light Paints and let us help. Have a
great weekend everyone, and I'll see you next week. I'm
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Dan Hansen. Thanks for listening.
Well, good morning everybody. Good morning. You're listening to the
repcell like home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore. And
before I get into the show today, I gotta tell
you I saw something this past week. Two different times.
I saw two different people who are so inspiringly, inspiringly,
you know what I'm trying to say, optimistic. Do you
(00:24):
know what they were doing that made me think that
they were preparing their snowblowers for storage. Yeah, they were
running the gas out of the machines and then getting
them all shut down until next winter. Now, I don't
know about that. You know, we've had some wonderful weather.
I get that, and I sincerely hope that I'm wrong.
(00:44):
But I can't think of a spring break, you know,
on April spring break for the kids in you know,
elementary through high school normally that's first week of April.
I can't think of a spring break that didn't involve snow. Now, certainly,
certainly we maybe won't get enough snow to need a snowblower,
you know, maybe that's what they're thinking. You know, that
won't happen this late in the season, right, that's impossible
(01:07):
for us to get that much snow. We can just
shovel what comes right. Well, I was assuming that. I
assumed that's what these these two people were thinking. And
then I did a little googling and I found this
interesting little fact from one stinking year ago. I don't
even remember this, I have blocked it out, but one
year ago in West Michigan, here's the headline from the
(01:29):
story record snowfall across West Michigan. On Friday, East Grand
Rapids received eight point three inches of snow. And that
was from March twenty two of twenty twenty four. So
when I read that fun little fact, I did a
little more digging into my own personal records. And guess what.
I put my snowblower away for the season last year,
(01:51):
the week before that record snowfall. Coincidence, Oh, I don't
think so, there are no such things. So this year,
to help us all avoid that late season snowfall, I'm
keeping my snowblower gassed up and ready to go. You know,
I'm not superstitious, but I'm thinking if I do that,
that's going to keep the snow away, right, So do
(02:12):
with it what you want. Don't forget, though, to run
the fuel out of your snowblower before you store it,
or add fuel stabilizer, you know, whichever route you go,
just make sure that when you do that Winter's done.
Don't spit in Winter's face. Winter doesn't like that. Just
wait until we're sure that he's gone for the year.
Then make sure you remember to prepare your equipment for storage.
(02:33):
All right, That's enough of that. On the show today,
I've got an interview that I recorded with Mike Cherry,
the owner of Cherry Painting, and I'm going to air
a portion of that full conversation, and there's a lot
of ground. We cover everything from how Mike got started
in the business, to his favorite tips and tricks, to
some of his favorite concerts. He's a music buff and
we're going to get into all kinds of interesting things
(02:54):
in that conversation that's coming up now. In the last
little bit that I've got here in this opening segment,
I want to continue trying to demystify demystify the roller
cover aisle. Last week, we talked about the best roller
covers to use on common surfaces. This week, let's look
at the different nap thicknesses, which is just a fancy
way of saying how thick and fluffy the roller cover
(03:16):
is you know which one's the right one to choose
for your project. Well, let's look at it more closely
and see, all right, the three sixteenth inch nap it's
basically a super short nap and it's great for glossy
finishes where you want as little texture, little roller texture
as possible. But here's the catch. It doesn't hold very
much paint at all. So unless you've got a specific reason,
(03:36):
you're probably not going to want to use this for walls,
so potentially cabinets, doors, situations like that. But if you
listened last week, you remember that I talked about Wooster's
microplush covers. Those microplush covers are thicker naps than the
three sixteenth snap that we're talking about here, but the
fibers are so densely packed that those are pretty much
our go to recommendations when it comes to things like
(03:59):
cabinet's doors, and so three sixteen cs inch nap covers
they're seeing a little less use these days, but still
they're out there, and now you know why you'd use one. Now,
next up, we've got a three eighths inch nap. Now,
if you're painting walls, this is pretty much your go to.
It holds a good amount of paint, it applies it evenly,
and it keeps lap lines to a minimum. Basically, it
helps you work efficiently without creating a textured finish. That's
(04:21):
the three eighths inch nap your go to for walls.
Now half inch nap. If you're painting a textured ceiling,
a rough wall, brick, even block wall in a basement,
you need something thicker than those three eighths inch nap
covers and that's where this half inch nap comes in.
It carries more product and helps you get into those
nooks and crannies much easier. Now, the last one we'll
look at are the three quarter inch nap covers and thicker.
(04:44):
If you're painting extra rough surfaces, stucco, brick, exteriors, super
uneven surfaces, this is where you'd probably use one of these.
So how do you choose which is right for you
for your project? Well, here's the general rule. Use the
shortest snap that will work for what you're doing. You know,
don't go thicker unless you actually need it. And again,
if you're not sure, just ask us and remember Wooster
(05:06):
prodocy FTP roller covers are on sale at a great
price for the rest of the month at Repcolite. So
if you're a painting contractor, it's perfect time to stock
up on high quality supplies at a really good discount.
If you're a di wire, even if you don't have
a paint project lined up right now, grabbing a few
premium roller covers is a really smart move. When the
next painting project does come up, whether it's planned or unexpected,
(05:28):
sometimes those pop up. When that happens, you'll be ready
with top tier tools. You know you're not gonna be
scrambling or settling for lower quality options. You'll have good
covers waiting to go. And remember we talked about it
last week. A cheap or inferior roller cover can make
the best paint, the most expensive paint in the world,
look bad. The cover is definitely not the place to
(05:49):
skimp to save a few bucks. All right, let's take
a break. When we come back, I'll be chatting with
Mike Cherry from Cherry Painting. That's next stick around. Welcome
back to the Repcolite Home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore.
And right now I've got something new that I've been
working on for a while on a daily basis. At Repcolite,
(06:11):
we work with some of the best painting contractors in
the industry, and from time to time I've had a
few of them on the show here. But moving forward,
you know, into this year, twenty twenty five, I want
to shift gears a little bit and I want to
use the radio show to shine a spotlight on many
of these painting companies as many as I can connect with.
I think it's a really good way that we can
(06:33):
say thank you to them. You know that Repcollite can
say thank you to them by just sitting down and
talking with them and letting them tell their story to
a large audience. You know. So that's really good. But
it's also really good for you as listeners. You know,
you can use these spotlight interviews that I'm going to
be playing throughout the year, not every week, but throughout
the year, use them as an opportunity to conduct your
(06:53):
own interviews of these contractors. You know, unless you've got
a painting contractor that you've worked with in the past,
can be a little daunting to try to find the
right company to hire the next time you need some
painting done. These interviews and discussions should really help you
determine which companies you find yourself connecting with. It's a
long form discussion and by the end you're really going
(07:15):
to have a good idea of who each company is,
who each person is, how they work, and if they
could be the right company to hire the next time
you need some painting done. All right, With all of
that said, today's interview is with Mike Cherry, the owner
of Cherry Painting, and if you like what you hear,
there's plenty more, a whole lot more. You can catch
the full interview on our YouTube series The Interviews. Just
(07:36):
had to reptollites YouTube page and check it out. All right,
that's enough of that. Let's jump into my conversation with
Mike Cherry from Cherry Painting. All right, let's start at
the beginning. You know, your dad, I know, played a
role in you becoming a painter.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Still plays it, still still play, still plays the role
of I would whatever chief executor. He's pretty on call
all the time. You know, I got a question here
and there and what they did. And you know, obviously
paints advanced in the last since he started back in
the late seventies.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Because he was doing this.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
First, he went on the side. Yep, he did on
the side with a friend of his. They were doing
some suburban Detroit stuff, Milford area, Waterford Mott Now all
that area that was developing is still developing now, but
really developing back in the late seventies early eighties boom.
So they were going subdivision and subdivision young kids. My
(08:28):
dad was an eighteen year old kid, I believe at
the time, seventeen eighteen and just working on a crew
that his friend's brother started. Okay, went on to get
a degree he was doing. He taught for thirty five
thirty six years at what level. He was a high
school so.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
He was high school teaching. In the summers, he's painting, correct,
real common we see.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
A lot yep, yep that And I see wrote construction
guys doing some of that too. They come in and
they'll paint in the winter time when they're off. So
but yeah, anyway, he's he did that for my whole life.
I'm thirty, just turn thirty two. So as long as
I've known my dad, he's painted in the summertime. So
enjoyed it. I hated it. I actually absolutely hated it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So when did you start with him?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So I was probably fourteen thirteen, fourteen years old. He
was really good. My brother and I were really active
in sports. So my brother went on to be a
coylege athlete and running and stuff and all American and
all that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
People would have to be chasing me to get me.
Oh that's what everybody's then I have to pay. Sure
it's really worth while.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Sure, I'm glad one of us could do it, could
do that. I was just not that, not gifted like that.
So he's got a great job fifth grade position in
Grand Haven. Now loves it.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Your brother, yep, so he teaches as well.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
He teaches as well.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
My dad's still teaching.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Dad retired three years. This will be three years in June.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Brother teaches fifth grade.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Fifth grade. Yep. His wife teaches. My aunt taught. My cousins.
Both teach one in Utah, one in Shelby Heart Area.
I actually it's my degree, got a degree in teaching.
Long you know the day and backstory. He didn't really
want us to like it, so in fact I hated it.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Our mission accomplished that he did.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He he made us hate it. We had not like
super long, but ten hours as a fourteen year.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Old kid feels like an eternity.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well, and we again, how many closets can you do it?
Where he let us through closets? You know, that's about
where he trusted us. But it was either running long,
long hours or long long distances during the weekends and
after school and then of course summer break. You don't
want to get a job, then you better get good
at something. So you know, now, all these years later,
(10:34):
I am so blessed he took me in and had
me do that with him.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
So how long did you do that with him? Until
you decided off and on?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I wasn't, like I said, I didn't really like it,
And like again, how many closets can you do to
where you go, Wow, this where am I going to
progress into the next thing? I didn't know how.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You weren't looking at it as Okay, I'm going to
build this, know something you're looking for another?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Not a chance? Not a chance. There was a goal
for sure to get a degree in something. At that point,
fourteen year old kid, I didn't know what I want
to do. Sometimes I still don't know what I want
to do. No, I uh, so we go go to
went to high school, and and and finished really well
in my class, and got a pretty good scholarship academically
at Grand Valley State and then finished as with a teacher.
(11:17):
I still liked teaching. It was just a matter of
could I do this for thirty five plus years?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So did you start teaching?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Started teaching? Yep, I had a position I was as
I was secondary AD as well social studies as my
major in a history minor. I didn't become real first
in picking my minor, but I just loved history. So
I went, you know, did that want that whole route?
And decided, like I did two years of long term
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sub positions, had a few full times across the state
that had offers to go, and just didn't want to move.
Liked it here. I had a longtime girlfriend at the time,
and and I just did not want to go across
the state. I love my family here, I love West Michigan.
This is where I want to put down my roots. So,
you know, patients, right, patients, patients, And then I don't know,
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probably three years of just subbing all over in Oego County,
Oceana County two, and I think I just got burnt
out and I just wasn't sure. Academics was my thing.
So what do you do now?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
What are you gonna do now? Son Gold and you
got to pay this money back and YadA, YadA, YadA.
And then COVID hits and we have the whole COVID
deal and well you can don't have to pay your
loans right now. And again long stories, but fall back
on what was something I thought I hated was painting.
(12:42):
So then the cash flow comes in and now you're
now I'm eighteen at the time or nineteen, and going, well,
I like that cash. Yeah, it's pretty pretty quick. And
we were in and out and you know, we got
a full home and repaint and just doing walls and
so I like that money. And then it became the
people starting to talk to people like not here, I'm coming,
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still working with your dad, still working with my dad, yep,
but we're talking homeowners and you're starting to go to
the trades. And I at this time I was pretty
heavily into Sherwin Williams. I just had got into that
that went that route, and you saw the light. I
saw the light. Yeah, I had Aaron Van Dlson. I'll
give him a shout out. He's my rep and and uh,
I don't know where it was somewhere I was doing
(13:25):
a house on like Michigan an exterior and Aaron van
Dlson it gave me his card or something I can't remember,
and hey, mind if I come out and take a
look like salesmans do. Yeah, yeah, and uh been one
of the best decisions I've made professionally, was that, right?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
There was what just letting him stop out and talk?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yep, yep?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
What was so good about that?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Aaron's just a great guy in general, very approachable. He's
I mean, he's I think he I don't know if
he feels like he felt found his calling. I hope
he does, because that's he's got it. He's got the
personal skills, the people skilled. Yeah. So that again, that
was probably just it, not not really. I mean, to me,
paint sometime is paint. But again, back to the people,
(14:07):
Back to the people. I was getting another wrap every
six months. Again say I'm so and so, Hey, I'm Bob,
I'm I'm gonna hear your new seals. Well, what happened
to Joe or filling the blank name? So I donet
I didn't like that. I was really not into that
game as much. So I get in with replight. I'm
out of Miskeige in Port City.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Abe, yeahy Roy.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't think Roy's he's gonna outlive me. So we're
gonna he's gonna keep going. And Abe and and Ryan
up there, and Aaron and and Riley. It's it's just
a good crew.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
So and it's steady. It's it's you know that they
don't go away. No, we don't do have a lot
of turnover. And I know that's such a big deal.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's been a lot of fun. I hope he continues. Obviously,
it's I'm not going anywhere. They're obviously not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So when did you start off on your own or
or you're yeah, or does your dad work for you? Now?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, he's a he's pretty much retired. Occasionally he'll come out.
He likes to prime. He likes to come out and
prime runs a sprayer Sometimes. I like to get him
a workout for back roll and ceilings. He liked to
do that.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I have him do some closets or something. Yeah, yeah,
he's on the tables.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Sure, sure, yeah. We so we transitioned into that got
really lucky. Dave douson Dan Custom Homes, where I've been
the last probably three years, took a chance on me.
So we and and my dad at the time, and
and that blossomed into well, you know, going from bathrooms
literally bathrooms and residential repaints of walls and ceilings, very
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little trim at that time, and it's been new construction
ever since. I don't like parents paving paradise to put
up a parking lot. I don't like that, but I
do like the money.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It's always that balance. Sure, how much can I tolerate?
Sure enough?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah, I know. I My grandparents had a big and
before I was even around, had big swet land and
stuff that that's starting to develop, and you just you
hate to see that.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
But well you're not developing it, you're just making it
look good. Right, No, it's gonna be there anyway. It
might as well look good.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I tell everybody, I look, I can't stop this from happening.
I just got to go along for the ride. So
and again I'm blessed for that. So yeah, we we
just my dad's kind of transition out of I mean,
he's just an elder, right, he's my dad. He's my
really between my dad and my brother and best friends.
We never really got I mean, father's son get a
(16:30):
little heated when now your son is your cult boss,
which I never like to, never ever want to experience.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
That sounds loaded.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, I never want to. And I hope my dad
never felt that way, Like I was watching over him
that kind of thing. He's the one that taught me.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Right, So there's no it is a weird dynamic.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's a very weird dynamic. How dude, is you know
teaching me to walk and talk?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
And how do you get after your dad?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah? How do you get off of your own? And
I think for me, it's just sometimes it's a speed thing,
you know, It's like I want it done, you gotta
do it right. He knows to do it correct. But
now there's that fine line between speed and you know
how like how we Hey, I can't have you taken
two days to you know, fill your sale.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
We're gonna have to let you go.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Ah, Dad, I really don't want to have to let
you go here.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But now that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
No. So yeah, so he just kind of transitioned out
a little bit. He's he's enjoying his retirement's traveling quite
a bit he developed parkins He had Parkinson's diagnosed with Parkinson's.
About man, this is probably year six now, okay, And
so I think that was a that's a very big
eye opener for all of us in our family. So
he's he's just loving. He lost both his folks last year.
(17:48):
Twenty twenty four is a tough year for for us
as a family and him. Yeah, and it's his you know,
So I I think he just I don't want to
say you don't you see that light demorin right, don't
want to say that, but I just you only have
so much time to do the things you want to do, right,
And not that he doesn't want to play second hand
to his son in some house in Muskegon County, But boy,
(18:12):
there's a lot of United States. There's a lot of
world out there to do.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
My dad had a heart attack, I don't know, three
years ago or so, and it was one of those things.
He was so so healthy, you know, always doing something.
He's hauling something out of the basement, a big piece
of furniture, you know. Yeah, because that's what he does.
He just completely pushes himself beyond what's normal d do
passes out at the top of the steps, complete eye opener,
open heart surgery, you know, and doing well again. But
(18:39):
it was that wake up call where you think, man,
you take so much for granted, you know, especially when
your parents are clicking along just fine, right man, You
just don't know what's coming. You want to make the
most of what you've got.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And I'm so glad he's able to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll
get back to more of my interview with Mike Cherry
from Cherry Painting. Stick around and we're back. You're listening
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Mike Cherry, owner of Cherry Painting. But before I get
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Just check out our new series The Interviews. All right,
let's get back to Mike Cherry from Cherry Painting. Your
huge music guy, yeh yeah, concerts. You've seen everybody from
the Rolling Stones to Paul McCartney. Now see that's about
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as big as it gets for me, what's been the
best concert experience that you've had?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, because I said you mentioned that, I mentioned in
our interview the questionnaire you gave me so many. I'm
trying to think on my way here, even how many
had been to at the young and energetic age of
thirty two. Why is a thirty two year old loving
the Stones right or even Paul McCartney.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
And because they're all very good.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They're all very very good, and I don't I guess again,
my dad instilled in me or sometimes a lot of
people listen to their dad stuff too, or mom stuff
back in the my mom loves heart and you know
it's I love it too, you know, And I don't
know it never left me, and that that never ever left.
I kept listening classic rock. Step in any job site
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and they're listening to some classic rock. There's a couple
of head bangers in there, and you know, occasionally we've
got some gospel going on over here, and it's different floors. Yeah,
everybody's got their job site radio. Which Flora are you
on today? So I never have to bring my radio.
I never have to bring anything.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Because you can tolerate the music. The music whatever.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I love every one of them. You know, I've seen everything.
You saw Chris Dawtrey, I mean Sawrey American Yeah, yeah, top.
I think he's tenth or something in American Idol.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
When did you see Paul McCartney, Oh.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Man, I must have been. He was in Grand Rapids.
For those listening helped me out. They was ingrind right,
I was in Grand rapp where I know, you know what,
so many people have said that, like, I can't believe
I didn't go, And you know who really wanted to
go most out of all this. My dad's a massive
Beatles fan. My mom she wanted us to go as
a family. I was probably seventeen eighteen. Again, there's that
(21:25):
The date is on there somewhere, we can find it
on Google. But he came, and I think my mom
just said, well, he's never gonna come to Grand Rapids again.
And of course I'm thinking, nah, he's probably gonna come
to Grand rap fan and it's pretty big, and I
think my mom was right. Yeah, I don't think he
will ever.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Did you all go as agree?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
We all want my brother myself?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Did she scream?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Nope, she didn't scream as much. I think my dad
cried a little bit. Okay, I didn't. Yeah, yeah, I
don't think, uh, you know, I think I did, probably
cried her and let it be. I get my emotions
through my dad. It was just again something at the
time said, I listened to it my whole life. Well,
I'm not a seventy year old man or a sixty
year old man or fifty year old man that had
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listened to it his whole life. But I listened since
I was, you know, old enough to listen to music
ten years old or something that my dad would have
Let it be right, you know, I've Yeah, the angels
came down. I think at that we're on sitting in
our row, probably just sitting in all of Banelreena so cool. Yeah.
So whenever he was there, we just I just saw
(22:26):
the stones last summer, last June, I believe it was
down at Cleveland. So I went to the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame and did the saw the stones
and we had great seats. Another friend of a friend
of mine, another guy I painted his house, become really
good friends with. My dad was friends with We're going
to see the stones together. So it was him and
his son. My dad actually did have open heart surgery
(22:48):
that week, so he was not able to go. We
were all supposed to go. He was not good. You
had a triple bypass, totally unexpected. Obviously we're glad we
he caught that. Yeah, caught it before that could have
got really bad in there. Yeah, like you're mentioned, so
he wasn't able to go, but you know, we said,
hopefully it comes around again. But yeah, so the stone
(23:09):
Stevie Nicks a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Anyone jump out at you is like that one.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, yeah, circle back around. Jackson Brown is my dad
and I favorite. Definitely was my dad's favorite and became
my favorite, probably because again because of my dad. We
love James Taylor and Jackson Brown. It was just those
are the two and they stuck. They've always stuck out
to me. That was probably my favorite. We saw them
third row at Vanandel. Jackson Brown actually opened for James Taylor.
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This is right after COVID masks.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I remember this, yep, And when it happened yep.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I had to have a mask on of course, and
it was just like maybe that was part of it too.
We had all no no no, no, no no. Well,
I think we had all We couldn't do anything. Couldn't
even go to the get a burger, you know, downtown
or so a lot of that stuff we take for
granted now, Oh yeah, I hope hope people do not,
(24:01):
but I did and we couldn't do it. And guess
what else we couldn't do? Go to concerts right full
of ten thousand people or whatever they fit at Van
Andle So we had that right after COVID. So it
was just like sure, and then to have both your
guys right, both your guys you listened to that. My
dad listened to and learned to play guitar from those guys.
(24:22):
That was probably my most important memory.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, that's that's really cool. So getting back to paints, Sure,
I'm curious you got a lot of people out there
listening di wires and stuff like that. We haven't talked
about this. I'm curious about just some practical ideas. You know,
what's the number one you know, if you would think
of like rookie mistakes, Yeah, that people make that the
diires out there could be stumbling through and could probably
(24:47):
try to avoid.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Ah man, you know, I the advancements in paint itself
has gone way just since I have not been painting
as long as as many of you listening, and you
know way more than I do. You know, I just
think our tools are are huge, and I'll maybe think
of something as am. This's a great question anyway, frog tape,
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for example, Let's just go down there. Let's go down
just in our tools. There are painters that I know,
and we won't mention that any of their names that
don't like frog tape, and I just don't understand it
or or don't want to spend the money for it,
and we'll go with the original blue or so I
don't know, or some of you are there going, oh
my gosh, I can't believe you still use tape. What
(25:30):
do you mean those guys that don't. I can cut
straighter than nobody cut straighter than tape except me kind
of think.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Talk about so frog tape. First off, for anybody out
there who's not aware, it's just it's a special tape
that's got it's chemically altered so that when the water
from the water based paint hits the edge of the tape,
it feels it yep. And if it's guaranteed or the
design it's designed to prevent that point paint bleed through.
That's so frustrating.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
It happens. It's still going to happen. If your baseboards
are clean and you're taking a damp brag before your baseball,
you know, before I'm sure dust settles on it. It's
I'm not gonna say it's impossible to get a bleed,
because it's still gonna happen. The paint bleed is inevitable.
It's going to happen, but it's much harder now with
that particular tape, that particular tape. So I love the
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frog blue because I can get them in six packs
one inch or point nine to four inch.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You know, they blue, there's green and yellow. They all
do different things. He talked about them on the show
multiple times. Yeah, and so you use the blue.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I love the blue because I can get again, get
them in six packs a little bit cheaper. You don't
have to buy the the the green with the with
the hard case that I mean, I've those to me.
That's the premium, right, it's the I would use that
if I absolutely thought I didn't trust myself for some reason.
The blue, I just love it. You can get them
in six packs, yeah, yeah, contractor deal and so what
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of them?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
What about those folks who are saying and like you said,
there are people yep, hollering at the at the at
their phone or however they're listening to this that you know,
they don't tape. They get that clean line without you tape.
Do you tape on everything.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Or not everything? If they yeah, I mean if it's
most new constructions. I mean, of course, no one's taping
their ceiling. I mean some that do not. No offense
to anybody that is that's a douire that doesn't feel
like they can cut a straight line on your ceiling.
By all means, whatever gets the job done. There's not
a wrong way right way. There's the only right way
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is your way and what you are happy with.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah. The wrong way is forcing yourself into a system
or a mode of operation that's outside of what you
know you're really comfortable doing, in order to mimic what
you think somebody else who's a professional should be doing.
We're not professional, or that told you was that's the
only way, So you do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yeah, I wouldn't. There is no only way, and probably
anything just ask YouTube. There's a bunch of different ways
to do things. So, yeah, I just love frog tape
and as far as you know, troubleshooting and stuff, I
I like to use a wet right, little wet rag
before I know it it does. It seals the paint
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a little better.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
You get the tape down and then you'll hit it
with a wet rag.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Very not and I'm not saying some people think they're
gonna soak it. Yeah, don't do that. I would not
do that. You don't want to just soak that paper.
But yeah, just just lightly before you go around with
your first coat, that will ensure a definite better seal.
You can feel, you can actually feel a difference when
you go to peel it.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You're just preactivating that that that chemical is gonna exactly seal.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I didn't know that. I mean, I think they probably
do show that now on on frog tapes sometimes, you know, demonstration,
they'll actually show that I did. Somebody told me, another
painter told me that, so I gave it a try
and he was right. You know, it's one of those
Thank you whoever told me that, if you're listening, thank
you so much, because I use it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Do you think that it speeds up? You know, because
the argument is going to be that I can go
way faster just cutting in by eye.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
And I'm sure that's the case for some people. Sure,
But for you, you feel like you're faster taking the time
or is it just that you're more efficient, I get
a better.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Job, Yeah, I think whatever is. I'm super addicted to
getting the best job I can get and my own
worst enemy sometimes where if this takes me a little
bit longer, and of course that time is money. We
all know that in this trade or any trade. Again,
if it sacrificed my time, you know, if I'm going
a little faster and it's sacrificing the results of this job.
(29:28):
It's someone's dream home that we're dealing with here, whether
it's sold or not, it's somebody's going to purchase this,
And I just I always worry about what someone else
is thinking, or somebody's going to see that later on.
They might not see it right away, and wonder somebody
like I just cut that corner. Whether they say that
or not, it's in my mind they're going to say that.
So it drives me nuts. So a little bit of
(29:51):
perfectionist there, but to your best, that's what I use.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
The tools that are available. Sure, so frog tape, other
tools that jump out.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
In oh, I mean just everything from a real quality brush. Again,
use quality stuff. It goes longer if you clean it out,
you do it. They're a correct way in your job.
I think, in my opinion, is gonna benefit from that.
The homeowner is gonna benefit from that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And let's take a break right there, and then after
the commercials, we'll be back for the conclusion of my
interview with Mike Cherry from Cheery Painting. Stick around and
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All right, here's the conclusion of my interview with Mike
Cherry from Cherry Painting. So different products, what about paint
and you know, I talk about this because I'm marketing
paint and selling paint, and so I know how people
potentially listen to that. Yep, you know I'm the guy
selling it. You're the guy buying it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You just talked about frog tape, talked about brushes, all
of that. The good stuff matters. How do you feel
about paint? I don't know what you're gonna say on this.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, all right, I'll open the can of worms.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, just say.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Somebody will go, what in the world are you talking
about it? This? And this? There's there's a definite I
struggle like everybody because I'm the one trying to sell
it to a homeowner. You sell it to me. Yep,
I have something that I might like that it rolls
off the brush well or feeling you know, what's got
the most washability for the less the leachine. Right, everybody's
looking for that perfect scenario, that perfect paint. Can I
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still get it for thirty dollars a gallon, No tried double,
and then we'll work. I you know, I'm I've really
become I have a deep appreciation for care Free Repco Lights.
Care Free I getting at a great deal. I feel
like the eggshell's got some decent washability. The homeowner wins,
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it looks great. I like it because I'm winning a
little bit. And I mean, if we both win here,
what's the trade off? Right? Is it going to scrub
like scuffax? No? Absolutely not. If you wanted that, then
go with scuff X. But that middle ground for me
is that is that care free? Do I use scuffax
on every single one of my trim jobs, regardless of price? Yes,
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that's all I use. It's what I love to use.
Looks great to me, it's it's my go to the
di wires. Painting your own home, how do you how
do you justify seventy dollars gallon paint? Well, it's gonna last,
gonna look great, your kids can beat the heck out
of it. You should be able to wash scrub it
quite easily without seeing a massive sh change and all
(33:00):
that kind of thing. So yeah, back to that main
party of question, get the best that you can, that
you're that you can afford.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Like you said, the thing that I always try to
make the case because my default position is money saving,
you know, on everything that I buy. And as I
get older, I get wiser, and you realize that it's
worth spending the extra cause it's gonna last longer. Now
I can't spend the extra on everything. I still have
to make adjustments. So you still have to make those decisions.
Where can I, you know, afford to make the cuts.
(33:27):
And that's why the second secondary bedrooms and things like that.
Closets can be different products. But when you talk about Okay,
I'm gonna drop the big bucks, I'm gonna get scuff
x big bucks. But you know it feels big in
terms of a gallon of paint, and I'm going to
put that on, you know, as a di wire. Especially
thinking about it that way, the amount of work, you know,
using a quality paint, it applies easier usually, so you're
(33:50):
gonna it's gonna be either the same amount of work
or easier a little bit. To use a better product,
you're not gonna have to do it nearly as often. Correct,
that's the downside with the cheaper thing. You may save
some money, work is the same and you're doing it quicker. Again,
So if you don't love doing it, drop that extra
ahead of time and you'll save money in the long.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Run, and a lot of you if you're listening to
the show. You actually like painting, you know, you're actually
or at least you're interested in the trade or like
doing your own home.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
So you find the best thing you can afford.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I think. So that's I'm going to have some Yeah,
get the best that you can afford.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
No, that's good advice. And you know when people are
hiring contractors, you know they're they're contacting you. Now you're
working for a builder. But do you have any advice
out there for people who are looking to hire somebody?
And what are some things they should be looking for?
What are maybe some red flags.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
That you would see in the workers?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
You mean, yeah, I'm thinking in the people that they're
you know, they're trying to get a contractor into their home. Sure,
what should they be looking for?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
So red flags for me, I mean you can tell
right away a personality of somebody and how you're going
to go. And I'm there's some guys that are amazing salesmen,
that are painters, that are going to sell you on
some thing. They've never done it, the fake it till
you make it, you know, beware of those. But they're there.
Those guys are there, those women are there, They're they
(35:10):
can they can sell you on a great job, and
and whether you get that is going to be in
right in time. Sometimes it doesn't work out. Sometimes it doesn't.
You got a heck of a deal. I'm not the
cheapest guy, but I promise you you're going to be happy
when I leave. And that just doesn't mean with your job.
(35:30):
You know, you're not clean hands and the smiles and
our personality and anybody that I bring onto the crew
is going to treat you like it's their home. And
like I mentioned a little bit before, I have now gone.
I mean We're going to the Rolling Stones with fans.
I'm going to Chicago music usually around music with people,
with people that I didn't know from ahead of time.
(35:53):
Next thing, you know, we're we're best friends. And that's
I'm not tooting my own horn there or anything. I
just think once you can develop that relationship with them,
with homeowners, and it's not always going to be that. Right,
someone's going to pay you via Venmo or something right
off the bed and then they're never going to talk
to you again. Please pass on my name. That's the
main thing. I think. That's six hundred dollars starewell I
(36:14):
did or fill in the blank. Job you did for
them is great right now. But if they don't say, hey,
you know, Pat, Bob's biller did a great job on
this and he bah bah bah, and he was clean
and they were friendly and you'll really like them, then
your business has stopped. That.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I think that's really important. You know, that's really something
that I think a lot of people probably don't think about.
I didn't think about that, and I think it's probably
something super easy that we can do as homeowners because
we've all had you know, I haven't had people come
in paint in the house, because I would do that,
But there's other things where I've had people come in
and I've been so thrilled with the work, you know,
(36:56):
and I thank them immensely. I've sent them a really
nice email, and that's all really good, yep. But what
I could do that's really going to help turn things
around is give their name out exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You know. Obviously you need that money, Okay, you need
you got to pay your bill for that month, but
the bills don't stop coming, your mortgage doesn't stop. I
mean some of you again paid it off, awesome, but
you need a new car three hundred bucks is not
out of the question anymore to go to the grocery store.
You're working for that next suggestion, that that next referral.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
So with that said, do you want to give your
name out your contacted Yeah, people want to show.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, you can Cherry Day or ww do at Cherry
dash Painting dot com. And I've got all my stuff.
I'm getting a little better at updating that and updating
on the website. You can get me at Cherry m
Painting at gmail dot com or even two three one
two two five five zero three two is my cell.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Thanks Mike for hanging out anytime.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Man, I really appreciate this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
And that's gonna do it. That's all the time we've got.
If you want to catch this episode again, you can
find it online at repco light dot com. And while
you're there, make sure you check out our other episodes
as well as our blog and all of the other
ridiculously cool stuff that we've got there. And if you're
a painting contractor and you would like to be featured
on our show in an upcoming episode, please reach out
(38:15):
and let me know. I'd love it. You can contact
me at radio at repco Light dot com. Just send
me an email and we'll get things moving. And really,
if you've got a painting contractor that you love working with,
maybe you're not a painting contractor, but you've hired a really,
really good one and you'd like to recommend that they
get some airtime. Just send me an email with that
info and let me know. Again. It's radio at repcol
(38:38):
light dot com. Everybody wins when we highlight great companies
like Cherry Painting. Mike gets some good exposure and you
get introduced to some of the best painting contractors in
our area. All right, whatever you do today, make sure
paints a part of it, and remember your next painting
project is way easier than you think. Stop out at
any repco Light Paints and let us help. Have a
great weekend everyone, and I'll see you next week. I'm
(39:00):
Dan Hansen. Thanks for listening.
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