February 22, 2025 • 39 mins
In this episode of the RepcoLite Home Improvement Show, sponsored by Benjamin Moore, host Dan Hansen kicks things off with a story about a texting mishap involving his sister and emojis. The show then transitions into an insightful discussion with Ginger Herman from Sue Prins Group, Five Star Real Estate Leaders, covering a range of real estate topics. They explore the current state of the market as we move from winter to spring, including buyer and seller strategies, the impact of interest rates, and the resurgence of home design trends like color drenching and natural wood elements. Ginger provides valuable advice for sellers and buyers, emphasizing the importance of early preparation and pre-approval. The episode wraps up with a look at common real estate mistakes and practical tips for navigating the market.CHAPTERS00:00 Funny Emoji Mishap02:07 Introduction to Today's Show03:14 Real Estate Market Update09:08 Advice for Sellers14:43 Home Design Trends19:02 Color Drenching in Home Design19:58 Memorable Home Features22:37 Trends in Wall Treatments24:10 Evolving Kitchen Cabinet Styles26:58 Funky Furniture and Home Decor28:09 Impactful Home Upgrades34:27 The Importance of Inspections35:55 Common Mistakes in Buying and Selling38:14 Final Thoughts and Contact Information
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, good morning everybody. You're listening to the Repco like
home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore. And before I
jump in to what I've got planned for the show today,
I want to make your day with a story that
has had me laughing for weeks now, and it's probably
gonna have me laughing for years. See, my sister recently
shared something that has unfolded over months now in her life,
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and it's just too good not to pass along. See
months ago, maybe a year ago, she gets a text
from a lady at church asking if she could help
in the nursery.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Instead of typing a response like she normally would have,
my sister scrolled through the emojis, found the thumbs up
one and sent that one, you know, quick and easy.
A little bit later, another request comes through, you know,
maybe from the kid's school, I think it was. She
scrolls through the to the recently used emojis, finds the
thumbs up, sends that. The pastor's wife texts and asks
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about something. Thumbs up. The neighbor texts, you know, your
garage door's open, just you know, boom, thumbs up. You know.
It became her go to rep for everything for months
and then she gets a text from her sister in
law asking something. She sends, you know, the usual thumbs up,
and then it immediately gets a phone call and the
sister in law wants to know what's going on. Why
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are you so mad? And my sister's completely confused. I'm
not mad. I don't even know what you're talking about.
Help me understand. The sister in law says, if you're
not mad, why are you sending me the middle finger emoji?
Think about that. My sister went back and looked through
all of these previous texts, and rather than the thumbs
up that she thought she had found, she had landed
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on the middle finger emoji, which apparently, if you don't
have twenty twenty vision, can look like a little blurry
thumbs up. So the pastor's wife, the neighbor across the street,
everybody has been getting the middle finger emoji every time
they ask my sister for anything. I absolutely love that.
If you ever botch a text, or you feel socially
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awkward in an interaction, just remember my sister, and you're
going to feel so much better about yourself. All right.
I love that story. I wish I had more time
to spend on it, but I don't. I've got to
get to today's show. And today I'm joined by a realtor,
Ginger Hermann from Superins Group five star real estate Leaders
for the entire show, and we're going to talk about
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everything from the state of the market to trends that
are catching buyers eyes, as well as how to get
the best results when buying are selling, so a ton
of stuff. It's really going to be good and I
just let's just jump right in. Ginger, thanks for being here, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
For having me. Yeah, I'm a little sour just because
Sue is usually with us and she's in warm weather.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh, and you're sour because yeah, she's normally with us,
but she's in better weather though.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh, yes, you're nice.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Say probably not here? Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Correct? Or should I be sour because she's not here?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, I don't know. It's your relationship with your mom,
so I'll let you sort that out.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No, she's in the seventies and eighties weather and we're
in cold twenties. So I'm a little sour.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, you've been here once before without Sue sueless, I think, yep,
But normally normally Sue's here. Yeah, she's normally very excited
to come.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I know we're missing you, Sue.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, except she's in good weather. We're not missing you
that much. Yeah. Anyway, let's get straight to it. The
real estate market has been in a fair amount of
flux over the last few years. Yeap, where are we
at right now? Is it really that different from the
last time you were.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
On Only different because we are exiting our winter market
and entering into the spring market. So I don't know
last time we were here. I'm guessing it was maybe
late fall, early winter, and we were entering into the
slow time, which is usually when we tell people buyers
get on board, let's let's purchase homes. But now it's
almost like you've missed your chance. If you want, if
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you want a deal, or if you want and I
use deal lightly right, or if you want to not
compete with anyone else, it's almost like you've you've missed
your chance. As of this week, it's all of a sudden,
these buyers are coming out of out of the woodworks,
and here they come, and they want to get pre
approvals and we're gonna, we're gonna get ready to purchase.
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I think a big thing. Election's over right, that.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
See a big change from that.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We more so see not necessarily who's in office.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Is that somebody it's set now?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yes, people don't like uncertainty of who's going to go
into office. So people are feeling a little bit like, Okay,
we know who is going into office. We know kind
of maybe what's going to happen within this next year.
Bad weather. Yes, we might still have some more bad
weather come, but it's not like we're entering or in
the middle of bad weather. I don't know if the
groundhog saw their shadow, but I.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Think it did. Whatever it was the worst case scenario
where under winter cool. Yeah, that's like anxiety. So maybe
we are in the middle of winter. What if this
is the middle of winter well ahead of time. What
if we could foresee this is why God doesn't let
us see the future becase, Yeah, it would just be
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rating the grocery stop. Yes it's over. Yes, I don't
want this to be the middle. Yeah, there's got to
be on its last legs. Well.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And I usually tell our buyers and sellers watch the weather,
like if you start to see us mellowing out here
in Michigan, we're probably going to hit our spring market.
Sooner or if something happens with raids. But I know
everyone wants to know what's happening with rates, and they're
they're fluctuating in like the high sixes, low sevens, and
they'll probably be that way this whole year. We have
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so many buyers just you know, we talk about this.
I think almost every segment they're waiting for them to drop.
You kind of almost lose money as you wait for
it to drop. Because Okay, so last year the rates
were sevens, you know, pretty consistently throughout the whole year,
and our market still increased by eight percent, like people
were still purchasing and selling homes. And I think sixes
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are going to going to be like our new normal,
And really it is a healthy interest rate if you
look at the market as a whole. Will they ever
reach the fives again, Probably, but probably not anytime soon.
I think people are still nervous about the inflation that's
going on out there. There's still some uncertainties there. So
I think I think our interest rates are going to
stay consistently, you know, high stick close.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Don't be waiting on jumping into the market if that's
what you're waiting on, right Probably not going to see
this big no anytime.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And it would Yeah, if we saw ad dip, it
would probably happen slowly, so it wouldn't be you know,
all of a sudden next month. Yeah, you're you know
full No, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Almost a little tricky because it goes down a little bit. Okay,
well we'll just keep waiting me. Yeah, it's just it's
such a slow thing. You can can drag this out forever. Yeah,
and it is sad. I mean, I didn't know you
were going to start with the windows closing or pretty
much you missed your chance. I forget how you said it,
but it's I had sound effects. I'd play the you know,
the scary sad music something like that. Wow, that's what
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I would.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
No, But I don't want to be all negative because
it is still Yes, it's early.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
In the see where Well, No, you've got to be
honest though, And yes that's the case. That's what you said,
yes three months ago. And if anything else, it just
proves that whatever comes out of your guys's mouths just
people ought to listen.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yes, right, yep, Yeah, whether it's good or bad, We're
going to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So we've got all of that going on, the market
is starting to bump up.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, so we're starting yes, and mean I mean homes
that have been sitting on the market for forty five
fifty days are all of a sudden in this past
couple of weeks starting to get offers, and some of
them even multiple offers, which buyers are always like, what,
I've waited fifty days and then now here another buyer
waited fifty days and we're both writing on the south
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at the same time. That's big indicators for us that
we're entering into our spring market. And even the new
homes that pop up on the market. Remember how we
used to do offer deadlines right where you'd wait five
days to review offers. I've seen in the past couple
of days now people are starting to post their home
and already posting, hey, we're doing an offer deadline. Instead
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of in the winter, we didn't really do offer deadlines.
We waited to see if we had multiple buyers wanting
to purchase this house. Now it's like people are already
just putting them right on the listing, right up front. Hey,
we're going to do an offer deadline. So that's our
indicators that were you know, we're now entering spring market.
It's not I would say it's not full blown because
we still see houses sit on the market for a
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couple of weeks. But we got buyers coming out of
I don't know, what.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Would you talk out of? I get I'm streak to
find out where these buyers are coming out of.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
All I was thinking of was watching the groundhog pop
out of his little box or hole or whatever he
comes out of. That's that's our buyers. They're now popping
up and they're like, okay, we're ready.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Or Homer Simpson in the hedge and I just foozes
out of the hedge a second. The buyers are just
coming out, you know, look at our window. They're emerging. Yeah,
so that's good, right, It is for sellers to be crazy,
you know, a little bit crazy for buyers. All right,
I want to take a break right now, and then
when we come back, I want to talk about people
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jumping into the market who are thinking about selling in
this market. What are some of the things they should
be thinking about. We'll get to all of that in
just a minute with Ginger Herman. Stick around and we're back.
You're listening to the Recolit Home improvement show sponsored by
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Benjamin Moore, and I'm talking with Ginger Herman from Suprens Group,
five star real estate Leaders and Ginger we started our
conversation last segment, but I'm curious, you know, if you're
out there listening and you're thinking about selling, you know,
as we're heading into this, you know, what are some
of the things that they should be thinking about?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You know. I usually I have multiple sellers right now
that I am doing like a weekly update with them
on the market. So we're talking. We're waiting for kind
of like the best time to list. Honestly, they could
list right.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
To sellers, yes, yep, waiting.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
They all want to list within the next couple of months.
And weekly on Friday, I open up the market and
I see what's in their neighborhood. Has any homes popped
up or have any homes gone you know, pending, And
we're kind of doing this weekly back and forth like
all right, I think you should jump now, I think
you shouldn't jump now, Let's wait two more weeks. We're
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kind of doing that.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It varies by neighborhood potentially.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yes, yep, by area, by neighborhood. There's so many factors.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, you guys could see how she just shook her
head at me and clearly, clearly I'm a moron when
it comes to this.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
No, No, you're just not the expert.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I know. Yeah, your eyes told me that much more.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Okay. So it's not like now's the time or not
necessarily there's probably a generic yeah, now's the time to
jump in, but it can be very very specific based
on yes, location, if they are moving, you know, maybe
there's interest over there and now it's the time to
jump in. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So I usually tell my clients even if you're thinking
about selling, maybe it's the summer, call us now, or
call your realtor now, already start that conversation. So you
can see where the market is headed.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So that's really good. That's really good info for sellers.
What about buyers, because now it's like Lord of the Flies.
Maybe it's not yet. It's not yet, so that's what
it was. Is it going to ever be that again?
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I think it will come come like full wall again. Sorry.
I think a spring and summertime. We have all indicators
pointing towards we're going to have another crazy, crazy market.
Especially I think we talked about this last time I
was on the show. Election years are always everyone's up
in the air in a little bit hesitant. After election year,
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they all are like, all right, we're ready to go.
So that will that will definitely be a crazy I.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Mean, so what strategies are out there for by.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So for buyers, I know you said, what do they
do now? I definitely go get the pre approval right now,
because even if you're not ready to purchase for another
month or two, we really need to know what program
that you're approved for and what price, and you might
have the most perfect home pop up in two days.
And then if you didn't get your pre approval, you're
not ready to jump on it right So if you're
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a buyer, I would say definitely move today, at least
in the least just to get the pre approval letter.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
What if I'm debating, like do I want to jump in?
I'm thinking about it. I'm not sure I'm not still
worth getting the pre approval, I mean, what's involved? Yes, preapproval?
M I pay anything for pre approval?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
No, I'm an idiot, So I can you're not an idiot?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Your I said they were.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Will No, I did.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yes, I can live with it.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Here. Here's what's good, though, is your thinking on the
side of someone that hasn't done this before, and us
as realtors, we're in it every day. So you're asking,
thank you, good question.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's a really nice way to say that I'm kind
of dumb on this, but that's fine. I could live
with it. Yes, what no I do? Do you jump
in and at least get that pre approval because, like
you said, I've been in that boat years back, and oh,
maybe we should think about you know, oh, because you
see a house that you like. It's not for sale,
but you think, oh, that's kind of a fun house.
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It would be nice to move. Let's maybe think about moving.
Let's think about that. And three weeks later that house
goes on the market and we're stunned, and then we're
hurrying yes and we've never been Yeah, you can't get
it done.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
It's stressful. You do not pay for pre approval, and
just in the sense of being able to sit down
with a lender and someone that can look over your
full finances all together and see what makes sense for you.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
They can weep with me.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, either or or cheer.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, weep, but at least we'll know what I can afford. Yes,
this outhouse might be just right. Yeah, when you're a
family of six, yeah, five, However.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, and even the lender, after reviewing all of your financials,
might tell you, oh, this is the perfect time, you know,
to purchase something, or let's you know, pay off this
credit card or do something with this. Why don't you
purchase in the next thirty days, maybe forty five days.
Let's boost your credit score whatever it may be, right,
really good at.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, really good info. You kind of create a strategy,
a plan, yes, to iron out some obstacles that you
might not have even thought about.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes before the househouse up in the market and you
either can't afford it, or it's not the right time,
you can't get the pre approval fast enough, whatever it
may be. You know, have the conversation now.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So sellers, have your conversation. Start talking to your realtors.
Find if you're thinking about something, find out when the
right time is buyers, yeah that pre approval and have
those conversations. Yeah, all right, let's switch gears. Let's talk
about styles and stuff like that. You know, I guess
I'm wondering about home design trends. You know, what are
buyers you know, really drawn to you right now? What
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are you seeing out there?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
We're seeing change in paint colors, and I'm I'm sure
you guys have talked about this and seeing this just
as a color of the year come out. But it's
almost like white is on its way out and these
like soft nudes beiges are coming in a lot of
the new build homes going up. It's now like an
off white cream or like a very soft yellow or something.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Throughout the whole world that we've had for a while.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Is now and I don't want to say it's out.
That's why I said it's kind of on its way out,
because we just don't see as much of it anymore.
There's definitely still houses going in that have white. I mean,
I built last year and I put all white on
my whole heart.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I was I was trying to remember. I thought, I
remember those conversations yet, Yes, yeah, so you're gonna repaint everything.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I already brought it up to my husband, like I'm
kind of thinking about repainting. He said, no, we're not.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
He used the were, No we're not. No, I'm not
so sad to see that go.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
You know, I know it doesn't bring much warmth into
the home until you I they're bringing furniture, natural woods
or artwork on the wall. Right, it's it doesn't bring
much warmth along.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
In a lot of beige, A lot of beige, sharably,
I mean, can they name it something different?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I mean beige I should get Yeah, I should have
came in here today with a better term than beige.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Well, no, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But that's what it is. Yeah, And then we're also
seeing bright I don't want to say bright colors. It's
more of like deep colors.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Jewel tone colors.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes, And I hate I should have came up with
a better word for this. Accent walls, right, remember when
we all hated accent walls. But maybe it's because it
was just so heavily used years ago that everyone was like,
well quit where the accent.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Of course it was heavily used. Wait a minute, we
can paint one walls and you wouldn't get on board
with that. Yes, anywhere companies weren't so big on it,
but everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Else, No, they're they're selling their smallest bottle.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, it's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yes, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
So it died off a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yep, and now it's back more that we're seeing. Yeah,
and I would love to come up with a better
term than accent well. So if you come up with them,
let me know. It's either accent well or the whole
room including the.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Ceiling and we so that's color drenching.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Color. So we're seeing color drenching. But I've noticed that
builders are only doing it in like the office, okay,
And I think it's because they want to start to
get the feedback from the buyers as to if they
like it. If they like it enough, I think they'll
use it more so in bedrooms or whatever it may be.
But they're they're kind of playing with this in just
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in offices. And if you think about it in a
builders standpoint, if they're building a spec house, they don't
have a customer in mind, it is scary for them,
right to throw something out there, yeah, and hope that
a buyer likes it. At least it's only one room.
You can repaint one room easily.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Right, but still color drenching, that's about I mean, because
normally what we would hear in the past, they did
a lot of grays. Revere Pewter was where through the
entire home, and it's kind of boring in a way.
I mean there's a lot of people who you know
would go to bat for Revere Pewter. Yeah, but it
is kind of bland in a big, you know, seeping house.
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But it's really easy to work with. You can work
around it. You can see yourself in that because it
kind of just fades away, you know, when you're looking
through a house. I'm not seeing that. It's not challenging me.
If I walk into a space that's you know, the
ceiling's painted, the trim, everything, it's color drenched in a
you know, whatever color they're choosing. Wow, Because if I
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don't like that, it's not just oh I'll repaint. I've
got to repaint the ceiling, the trim.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yes, Oh my goodness, it's a big idea.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Surprised they're doing that now. I think what I want
to do is keep this conversation going. But we have
to take a break. So let's do that and then
we'll pick things up on the other side. Stick around,
and we're back. You're listening to the Reco Light Home
improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore and I'm in the
studio with Ginger Herman from Suprens Group five star real
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estate leaders and Ginger we ended last segment talking about
how you're seeing, you know, more and more new homes
incorporate color drenching into the paint job and color drenching
just to recap it's painting the entire room, you know, walls, ceiling, trim, doors,
all of it in one color. Color drenching. You're seeing
more of that. But how do you feel about it?
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You know, what do you think when you see it?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I like it because it's something different, right.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Do you think you like it as a person, or
do you like it as a you know, professional who
sees a lot of houses and it's like, oh, this
is nice, it's different.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Both We color drenched two of our rooms in our
current home, so I was nervous to do it, but
I love it. And yeah in the professional standpoint, yes,
I like it because it's different and people remember it,
so whether they loved it or hated it. There you know,
you see five houses, let's say, with this buyer, and
they walk away at the end of the day and
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when they go to categorize their houses, they'll probably say,
oh and then that one, that one house that had
the all black office or whatever. It's something that they
are remembering, whether it was good or bad, and I
think that's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, I know we went to years back. I remember
on the show, I went and toured some prey to
homes houses, you know, for the show, and talked about
them and stuff like that. And one of the takeaways
that we had was everything was Revere Pewter. You know,
went you know, seven different houses. I think we picked
and we didn't know going in what we were going
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to find, but wow, it's all the same color, all
the same color, all the same color. By the fourth house,
I don't have a terribly great perception of I'm not
a good navigator. If I spin around twice, I don't
know which ways which, and so by the fourth house,
I'm walking through it and I'm, you know, in all
my wisdom. I think Betsy was the one who was
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hosting the show with me at that point, and I
was saying, we've been here before, Yeah she was a
good navigator, and she said, we haven't been here before,
stopped saying this is new. Felt like the same stinking house.
And then we went to one that had a lot
of the same color, but it had two rooms like
a sunroom and another like a family room, living area
that was completely different. You know, a deep blue on
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the walls of one so memorable. Yeah, I mean I
can still picture that room. Yeah I can't. I couldn't
tell you anything like that. So I know that can
be really effective. Curious when you say people talk about it,
whether it's good or bad, they remember it. What do
you hear from people who've looked at them. Do they
seem to like that or is it split, you know,
(21:44):
even split?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I would say it's an even split. I think it
depends on what they're using the room for. So a
lot of my clients one of one of the partner's
works from home, or if it's I mean it's a
single person too. A lot of people work from home
or have a home office, and that almost whatever room
that they've color drenched or made a little bit different, right,
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maybe they put French doors in, or they did funky
light fixtures or something they usually gravitate to, like, oh,
this is going to be a really cool office. That's
usually what I'm finding. So I think I think people
like it for the most part. If it's like, oh,
this was going to be my toy room for my
kids and it's all black, they might paint that. It
doesn't bring much creativity for kids young mind joy.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, seems like you know, an orphanage in a Dickens.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yes, And then we're we're also seeing just to switch
from paint colors, we're seeing no one's really doing ship
lap anymore. That's that's kind of that's a done deal
that I don't want to say it's done. People are
still kind of doing it, unless more so of it's custom.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You know, there's somebody out there right now. I know
afternoon was going to be putting ship.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So I'm trying to be careful.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It just switched off the radio. Say what you want
to say?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Now? Where I where I see it. If it's a
if it's a new build like thrown in the laundry
room or a half bathroom, so it's just a small space.
We've added some sort of texture to the wall, right,
But people doing these feature walls now we're seeing a
lot more like natural woods or I don't even know
(23:24):
how to describe this, but it's like they put up
a lot of trim and a funky pattern and then
painted over it. Does that make sense? Would you have
a term for that? You're looking at me like you
have no idea, So I.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Think I can picture what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Right, So they've put some trim up in some sort
of pattern along the wall, and it's usually not very symmetrical.
It's an asymmetrical, you know, funky design. They've painted over
the whole entire day. Oh okay, so you so your
house is quirky.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That was part of the design, putting it not just
on the where baseboard or something would be it would
be like.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
A feature wall. Yes, instead of ship black, we're seeing
more of that. Or we're seeing natural wood. So we're
seeing like slat slatted slatted or slotted slatted slatted walls
of natural wood, which kind of ties into we're not
seeing as much white kitchen cabinetry anymore. We're seeing woods
come back again. I would say, like soft tones, right,
(24:19):
not like the dark wood from the nineties or the
two thousands, but warmer woods. Yes, so like white cabinet tree. Yeah,
I still see it in maybe more like twenty to
twenty five percent of the homes. Even the tree cabinet
tree yep. Starting starting to either get all color or
that natural wood tone.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
How deep are the colors that you're seeing on the
cabinet tree?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Usually pretty deep, or at least the lowers in the
island dark might do a lighter tone on the top. Yes.
And when when I talk colors being brought in, most
of it is blues and green that we're seeing color
brought in.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Are you surprised or do you think I'm wrong?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
No? I think I'm the expert here, all right. No,
I think you're right, and I get no. I really
I'm just sucking in all the information. It's interesting. What's
interesting to me is that I'm thinking back. See, I
like to be right. This is an embarrassing admission. I think. No, No,
it isn't okay.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I worked with Hayley, and I really want her to
hear this. I think I'm going to play a clip
to her and just send it her. She doesn't work
with me anymore. She still works for Repcolite. But I
remember because blue and green these are my things, and
I've talked about it. Man. She would scoff at me,
whether it was on air or off. She would pull
her nose up shake her head every time I'd bring
(25:50):
them up and be like, no, I was seeing the
future and now it's not. This is this is the
time of Dan and I want I want her to
know that. It's a little embarrassing that I'm that petty,
but I am.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, that's all right, you were. I think it's a
big deal for you, it is, I.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Like to be right. So color that's really interesting. I
like that. I'm glad to see at least a shift
or a turn slightly away from the all white. Yeah,
it's just it's more, it's warmer, and there's there's a
lot of personality that can be infused that way. I
think it's difficult. I mean, it's certainly possible to infuse
(26:28):
you personality and what you feel about your space with
just white. Surely that's possible. But yet there's so much
of it. Yep. It's kind of nice to see, you know,
when there's all these different colors to choose from. Yes,
you know, if you want that all black color drenched
kids playroom, funhouse, horror show, Yeah, all right, so that's
(26:50):
kind of cool. Paint colors. You're seeing that wood elements,
anything else that jumps out at you.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
No, I really don't you know what I mean? And
people probably say this wouldn't be a trend, but we're
seeing some funky furniture. And I don't know if if
that's just the recent homes that I've walked through, and
maybe that's because we had so many years of white
and gray, but I'm seeing a lot of like funky
furniture come through.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I need to know what that means. What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Like right, bright colors yep? And multiple colors meaning like
let's say you have a couch that's like dark dark
green and then you throw in like orange chairs or
something really yeah yep. And like I said, maybe it's
just I happened to be walking through all these houses
that have funky furniture. But and maybe that was a
way for people to bring in color in their gray
(27:35):
and white houses. They were like, well we need something,
so let's get funky furniture.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
But you haven't seen it before. You're starting to see
crac Have you been through furniture stores recently?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
No? But I wish that would be yeah, you know that.
I feel like that was a bash at me, like
I should have done that before I walked into here.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well take it how you will. I will, so, Okay,
that's really interesting. I like that. Yeah, I got digging that.
Maybe I'll go to some furniture stores. Seems to be
something I might know what to do. Before you said that,
I guess let's move on. If someone sounding, you know,
someone's selling what upgrades? You know, small upgrades, maybe big upgrades.
(28:16):
What do you think you know makes the biggest impact?
If if we're and before I let you do that
answer that, I'm always curious if we're looking at the
Lord of the Flies occurring, do they need to make
small updates? Is it even worth it?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It's such a broad question for me because.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I know how we're just barbing back and forth.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yes, because I'm going to tell you, and I hate
saying this, but I'm going to tell you it depends
and it depends on what is in their house. If
they have all brass hardware in their kitchen from the
seventies and eighties, that's something I would tell them, Yeah,
we might want to switch everything out for black. It's
a cheap fix, right. Or you walk in the home
and there's like this gaudy light that no one's gonna want.
(28:58):
It's the first thing you.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Walk in those people want it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, those even.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Want the only people on the face of the are.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
The only ones.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, I have.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Okay, well, maybe let's work on your house back. We
should do a walk through of your house.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I still talk about the time that Sue came through
to give me a price for what my home.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
No, did she bash you? Oh that exactly was typical.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Very kind of except she was all of those things.
But she kept touching my countertops and then she'd look
at her hand like maybe some of it him. Oh no,
and she said, Dan, your countertops. Oh, And I said,
I know, Sue, They've got to be changed, these countertops.
And sometimes she'd be in the middle of a sentence.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
And she'd go back. She was so stuck on it.
So she must have hated your countertops.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I'm keeping them. I'm keeping them. So anyway, so you're seeing,
you know, the light fixtures.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, light fixtures are a relatively easy and cheap thing
to switch out and hardware. And I say that because
we're still in a heavily black fixture, you know, world
Sometimes we see the gold, but it's a different goal
than what the eighties were. So I'm probably I might
offer to help you switch out some some hardware or
(30:12):
some light fixtures. Paint, I don't know, not as big
of a deal to buyers. If we're in the lord
of the front, you know, the flies, crazy market fries.
I know, I stop myself, thank you. So if we're
in that craziness, you you might not have to paint.
But the same thing, it's it totally depends on your
(30:34):
house because if everything is wrong I say everything, then yeah,
we might want to put more heavily influence on the
paint or doing case case I case. So that's why
I just have have us or your realtor walk through
your house and give advice now, because then you have
time to do these updates that will probably bring you
more money.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That right, I was going to ask that. I assume that,
and I think it makes the case for you know,
I know we talk about it every time you're here,
just because it's the right thing to talk about. But
it's easy to want to just I'll just do this
for sale by owner thing. And yes, there's a lot
of complications where you've got to figure out how to
do a lot of things, but even just the having
(31:14):
somebody who's got you market savvy, you can help you
see things that you don't see, because, quite honestly, I
joke about those counters because she was, Oh, my stomach,
it's the lord of the Nobody heard it but my stomachs.
I'm so hungry. I joke about the counters that Sue
talked about. But I appreciated that because I hadn't really
(31:36):
I noticed them when I moved in, and then I've
been there a year.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
So you don't care anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I didn't care. It's not new or strange to me.
It is what it is. I've gotten used to it. Yeah,
bigger problems, But if somebody else comes through, like a
realtor who knows what people will pull their nose up
at a little bit, who might might make them pause.
If I can get those things fixed and it's relatively
inexpensive hardware stuff like yeah, like you said, that can
(32:01):
play out to bigger money down the road.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yes, or even just getting the buyer to write on
your house insteade of the house down the street where
maybe maybe they only did you know cabinetry, you have
my encounters or they have your counters, right, it could
have been such a small difference to the next house
that they're looking at. But it's like one less item
on their list that they have to worry about switching out,
(32:24):
and who knows, they might never switch it out, but
it's a big deal to them at the time that
they're walking through houses.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
All right, I think that's a perfect spot for a break.
Let's play some commercials and then we'll come back and
finish this conversation in the next segment. Stick around and
we're back. You're listening to the Repcolite Home Improvement Show
sponsored by Benjamin Moore, and I'm in the studio with
Ginger Hermann from Superins Group five Star real Estate Leaders.
(32:54):
Ginger's been here the whole show, just dishing out all
kinds of good info, and we've got one last segment
to go in. Ginger, I just want to jump right
back into basically right where we left off at the
end of the last segment. When you're talking to people
who are selling, I know that there's something inside most sellers.
They find themselves wanting or at least feeling like they should,
(33:17):
you know, paint and do things like that. But I
also I think I'm assuming buyers come in almost sometimes
expecting and planning on doing that or amount of that. Themselves.
They want that to be their place. Yes, so you
could spend a lot of time as a seller, Yeah,
doing that, and they're going to redo it. Yeah. Do
you see that they generally tend to want to redo
that or.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
What do you some? It depends on how much funds
they have coming in. If they're spending a majority of
their funds just to get into a house and they
don't have the funds to then update the home, you know,
after so it kind of depends. But me as a
buyer's agent, when I walk through the house, I'm trying
to focus on layout and structure of the home because
(33:58):
the rest of it can be fixed. No, maybe not
within the first year if you're trying to replenish your
bank account. But let's focus on do you actually like
this layout, this neighborhood is the house? Sound? Are you
going to have major you know, a furnace expense or
something like that coming up. Let's try to focus on that,
and then let's yeah, let's joke and laugh about the
paint color that they chose, but shouldn't be a huge deal.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
No, if I can live with the counters that I've
lived with, clearly you can live with Yes, for a while. Yes, exactly,
so inspections. A while back when it was crazy, inspections
were being waved. Right, what do you think now we're
inspections now. Yes, you anticipate that we're going to be
(34:41):
back to waving inspections. We like when you bring up
the furnace thing that's a little scary dud. Yeah, that's
where you catch some of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, we will probably still see people wave inspections. It's
not near as what it used to be, closer to
COVID years when everyone was waving inspections just to get
at the house. So that's a major positive where it's
it's not like a done deal seller is not going
to accept your offer if you didn't wave inspections. I
(35:09):
think because both sides of it, both the listing agent
and the buyer side, we like it if inspections happen
for one after the sale, if something comes up such
a bigger ordeal, if they're like, we found this and
you didn't include it on your seller's disclosures, and it's
an easier way to say, well did you get inspections. No,
(35:30):
you didn't look into that. You chose to wave that.
You now have to deal with it after the sale, right,
So I think both sides are like, No, it's actually
a really good thing for us to have inspections. Let's
get this done up front. That way we don't have
issues down the road after closing.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You're so hoping that doesn't completely go away.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Again, agreed, Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So you know, last thing that I've got, you know,
maybe one common mistake. I mean, I'm sure there's a bunch,
but maybe one common mistake that you see buyers or
sellers making, be one for each one that they should avoid,
you know, And maybe it's something you've already talked about.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I do think it's something I've already talked about. It's
not doing your homework upfront and just wanting to dive in.
Whether it's a seller wanting to like, oh, I want
to list my house next week, or a buyer finding
the house and calling us and saying I want to
get this, and we say, have you talked to a
lender yet? No. It's super important to just talk with
(36:25):
your professional, your expert realtor upfront, and then along with
that your lender or your financial advisor whoever that you
are getting financial advice from. Do that now. Don't don't
wait until now. It's a rush, it's chaos. It's so stressful.
Then on the process of buying or selling, like, we're
(36:46):
here to try to make this easier and take a
lot of the stress out of you know, from you. However,
if you set yourself up for a little bit of
the disaster, we can't take all of that stress away.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, a magic like that.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So I would say, get all of this done well
ahead of when you actually think that you're going to purchase, because,
like you said, the house always comes up on the
market when you are.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Not expecting it, and it's such a bummer.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
It is a bummer.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
And then you drive past that house like all the
time waving. After you bought your other house, you took
what you could find. Yeah, but you drive past the
house that could have been yours. Yep, I mean maybe
that could happen. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I always
drive past the house that I missed.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
To go along with not doing your homework, we have
clients that think, oh, yeah, I can't afford to move,
or I don't you know, I don't want to take
the higher interest rate. Sit down and talk with us
in the lender first there's there's a big chance that
we can make this move and it's actually going to
make sense for you.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
So if you're thinking basically that twenty twenty five is
going to be here that you might want to sell,
you might want to buy, You might want to jump in,
just get all the stuff. Yeah, handled, Yeah it now
you change your mind.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, there's not no harm done like we talked about,
there's no fees.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, realtors aren't mad at you. No, you're not going
to stalk people. No, I won't.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I will leave them alone. I promise. You're looking at
me like I won't. I promise I will.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I've seen your Instagram page. Ginger does a lot of
stuff on her Instagram page, or she's got a cardboard
sign and stand places. Oh yeah, never in front of
people's houses, though, saying why why not me?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Oh but that just gave me the idea. Now I'm
going to.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
So when they see she never stalks, people don't check
out her page. That's what you're getting in for. If
they do want to reach out to you, or Sue
who failed to make the meeting today because she's yes
off vacation, Yes, warmer weather. Yes, they want to get
in touch with you guys. How do they find you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Mysell six one six, six, three, three, five eight eight
zero and then Sue's six one six, seven two three
twenty four hundred.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
All right, I'll put all of that in the show notes. Ginger,
thanks for hanging.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Out, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's gonna do it. If you'd like to catch this
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(39:20):
Dan Handsome. Thanks for listening.
Well, good morning everybody. You're listening to the Repco like
home improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore. And before I
jump in to what I've got planned for the show today,
I want to make your day with a story that
has had me laughing for weeks now, and it's probably
gonna have me laughing for years. See, my sister recently
shared something that has unfolded over months now in her life,
(00:22):
and it's just too good not to pass along. See
months ago, maybe a year ago, she gets a text
from a lady at church asking if she could help
in the nursery.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Instead of typing a response like she normally would have,
my sister scrolled through the emojis, found the thumbs up
one and sent that one, you know, quick and easy.
A little bit later, another request comes through, you know,
maybe from the kid's school, I think it was. She
scrolls through the to the recently used emojis, finds the
thumbs up, sends that. The pastor's wife texts and asks
(00:52):
about something. Thumbs up. The neighbor texts, you know, your
garage door's open, just you know, boom, thumbs up. You know.
It became her go to rep for everything for months
and then she gets a text from her sister in
law asking something. She sends, you know, the usual thumbs up,
and then it immediately gets a phone call and the
sister in law wants to know what's going on. Why
(01:13):
are you so mad? And my sister's completely confused. I'm
not mad. I don't even know what you're talking about.
Help me understand. The sister in law says, if you're
not mad, why are you sending me the middle finger emoji?
Think about that. My sister went back and looked through
all of these previous texts, and rather than the thumbs
up that she thought she had found, she had landed
(01:36):
on the middle finger emoji, which apparently, if you don't
have twenty twenty vision, can look like a little blurry
thumbs up. So the pastor's wife, the neighbor across the street,
everybody has been getting the middle finger emoji every time
they ask my sister for anything. I absolutely love that.
If you ever botch a text, or you feel socially
(01:57):
awkward in an interaction, just remember my sister, and you're
going to feel so much better about yourself. All right.
I love that story. I wish I had more time
to spend on it, but I don't. I've got to
get to today's show. And today I'm joined by a realtor,
Ginger Hermann from Superins Group five star real estate Leaders
for the entire show, and we're going to talk about
(02:17):
everything from the state of the market to trends that
are catching buyers eyes, as well as how to get
the best results when buying are selling, so a ton
of stuff. It's really going to be good and I
just let's just jump right in. Ginger, thanks for being here, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
For having me. Yeah, I'm a little sour just because
Sue is usually with us and she's in warm weather.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh, and you're sour because yeah, she's normally with us,
but she's in better weather though.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh, yes, you're nice.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Say probably not here? Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Correct? Or should I be sour because she's not here?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, I don't know. It's your relationship with your mom,
so I'll let you sort that out.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No, she's in the seventies and eighties weather and we're
in cold twenties. So I'm a little sour.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, you've been here once before without Sue sueless, I think, yep,
But normally normally Sue's here. Yeah, she's normally very excited
to come.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I know we're missing you, Sue.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, except she's in good weather. We're not missing you
that much. Yeah. Anyway, let's get straight to it. The
real estate market has been in a fair amount of
flux over the last few years. Yeap, where are we
at right now? Is it really that different from the
last time you were.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
On Only different because we are exiting our winter market
and entering into the spring market. So I don't know
last time we were here. I'm guessing it was maybe
late fall, early winter, and we were entering into the
slow time, which is usually when we tell people buyers
get on board, let's let's purchase homes. But now it's
almost like you've missed your chance. If you want, if
(03:48):
you want a deal, or if you want and I
use deal lightly right, or if you want to not
compete with anyone else, it's almost like you've you've missed
your chance. As of this week, it's all of a sudden,
these buyers are coming out of out of the woodworks,
and here they come, and they want to get pre
approvals and we're gonna, we're gonna get ready to purchase.
(04:11):
I think a big thing. Election's over right, that.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
See a big change from that.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
We more so see not necessarily who's in office.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Is that somebody it's set now?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yes, people don't like uncertainty of who's going to go
into office. So people are feeling a little bit like, Okay,
we know who is going into office. We know kind
of maybe what's going to happen within this next year.
Bad weather. Yes, we might still have some more bad
weather come, but it's not like we're entering or in
the middle of bad weather. I don't know if the
groundhog saw their shadow, but I.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Think it did. Whatever it was the worst case scenario
where under winter cool. Yeah, that's like anxiety. So maybe
we are in the middle of winter. What if this
is the middle of winter well ahead of time. What
if we could foresee this is why God doesn't let
us see the future becase, Yeah, it would just be
(05:06):
rating the grocery stop. Yes it's over. Yes, I don't
want this to be the middle. Yeah, there's got to
be on its last legs. Well.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And I usually tell our buyers and sellers watch the weather,
like if you start to see us mellowing out here
in Michigan, we're probably going to hit our spring market.
Sooner or if something happens with raids. But I know
everyone wants to know what's happening with rates, and they're
they're fluctuating in like the high sixes, low sevens, and
they'll probably be that way this whole year. We have
(05:33):
so many buyers just you know, we talk about this.
I think almost every segment they're waiting for them to drop.
You kind of almost lose money as you wait for
it to drop. Because Okay, so last year the rates
were sevens, you know, pretty consistently throughout the whole year,
and our market still increased by eight percent, like people
were still purchasing and selling homes. And I think sixes
(05:57):
are going to going to be like our new normal,
And really it is a healthy interest rate if you
look at the market as a whole. Will they ever
reach the fives again, Probably, but probably not anytime soon.
I think people are still nervous about the inflation that's
going on out there. There's still some uncertainties there. So
I think I think our interest rates are going to
stay consistently, you know, high stick close.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Don't be waiting on jumping into the market if that's
what you're waiting on, right Probably not going to see
this big no anytime.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And it would Yeah, if we saw ad dip, it
would probably happen slowly, so it wouldn't be you know,
all of a sudden next month. Yeah, you're you know
full No, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Almost a little tricky because it goes down a little bit. Okay,
well we'll just keep waiting me. Yeah, it's just it's
such a slow thing. You can can drag this out forever. Yeah,
and it is sad. I mean, I didn't know you
were going to start with the windows closing or pretty
much you missed your chance. I forget how you said it,
but it's I had sound effects. I'd play the you know,
the scary sad music something like that. Wow, that's what
(06:59):
I would.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
No, But I don't want to be all negative because
it is still Yes, it's early.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
In the see where Well, No, you've got to be
honest though, And yes that's the case. That's what you said,
yes three months ago. And if anything else, it just
proves that whatever comes out of your guys's mouths just
people ought to listen.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yes, right, yep, Yeah, whether it's good or bad, We're
going to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So we've got all of that going on, the market
is starting to bump up.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, so we're starting yes, and mean I mean homes
that have been sitting on the market for forty five
fifty days are all of a sudden in this past
couple of weeks starting to get offers, and some of
them even multiple offers, which buyers are always like, what,
I've waited fifty days and then now here another buyer
waited fifty days and we're both writing on the south
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at the same time. That's big indicators for us that
we're entering into our spring market. And even the new
homes that pop up on the market. Remember how we
used to do offer deadlines right where you'd wait five
days to review offers. I've seen in the past couple
of days now people are starting to post their home
and already posting, hey, we're doing an offer deadline. Instead
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of in the winter, we didn't really do offer deadlines.
We waited to see if we had multiple buyers wanting
to purchase this house. Now it's like people are already
just putting them right on the listing, right up front. Hey,
we're going to do an offer deadline. So that's our
indicators that were you know, we're now entering spring market.
It's not I would say it's not full blown because
we still see houses sit on the market for a
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couple of weeks. But we got buyers coming out of
I don't know, what.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Would you talk out of? I get I'm streak to
find out where these buyers are coming out of.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
All I was thinking of was watching the groundhog pop
out of his little box or hole or whatever he
comes out of. That's that's our buyers. They're now popping
up and they're like, okay, we're ready.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Or Homer Simpson in the hedge and I just foozes
out of the hedge a second. The buyers are just
coming out, you know, look at our window. They're emerging. Yeah,
so that's good, right, It is for sellers to be crazy,
you know, a little bit crazy for buyers. All right,
I want to take a break right now, and then
when we come back, I want to talk about people
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jumping into the market who are thinking about selling in
this market. What are some of the things they should
be thinking about. We'll get to all of that in
just a minute with Ginger Herman. Stick around and we're back.
You're listening to the Recolit Home improvement show sponsored by
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Benjamin Moore, and I'm talking with Ginger Herman from Suprens Group,
five star real estate Leaders and Ginger we started our
conversation last segment, but I'm curious, you know, if you're
out there listening and you're thinking about selling, you know,
as we're heading into this, you know, what are some
of the things that they should be thinking about?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You know. I usually I have multiple sellers right now
that I am doing like a weekly update with them
on the market. So we're talking. We're waiting for kind
of like the best time to list. Honestly, they could
list right.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
To sellers, yes, yep, waiting.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
They all want to list within the next couple of months.
And weekly on Friday, I open up the market and
I see what's in their neighborhood. Has any homes popped
up or have any homes gone you know, pending, And
we're kind of doing this weekly back and forth like
all right, I think you should jump now, I think
you shouldn't jump now, Let's wait two more weeks. We're
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kind of doing that.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It varies by neighborhood potentially.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yes, yep, by area, by neighborhood. There's so many factors.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, you guys could see how she just shook her
head at me and clearly, clearly I'm a moron when
it comes to this.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
No, No, you're just not the expert.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I know. Yeah, your eyes told me that much more.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Okay. So it's not like now's the time or not
necessarily there's probably a generic yeah, now's the time to
jump in, but it can be very very specific based
on yes, location, if they are moving, you know, maybe
there's interest over there and now it's the time to
jump in. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So I usually tell my clients even if you're thinking
about selling, maybe it's the summer, call us now, or
call your realtor now, already start that conversation. So you
can see where the market is headed.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So that's really good. That's really good info for sellers.
What about buyers, because now it's like Lord of the Flies.
Maybe it's not yet. It's not yet, so that's what
it was. Is it going to ever be that again?
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I think it will come come like full wall again. Sorry.
I think a spring and summertime. We have all indicators
pointing towards we're going to have another crazy, crazy market.
Especially I think we talked about this last time I
was on the show. Election years are always everyone's up
in the air in a little bit hesitant. After election year,
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they all are like, all right, we're ready to go.
So that will that will definitely be a crazy I.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Mean, so what strategies are out there for by.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So for buyers, I know you said, what do they
do now? I definitely go get the pre approval right now,
because even if you're not ready to purchase for another
month or two, we really need to know what program
that you're approved for and what price, and you might
have the most perfect home pop up in two days.
And then if you didn't get your pre approval, you're
not ready to jump on it right So if you're
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a buyer, I would say definitely move today, at least
in the least just to get the pre approval letter.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
What if I'm debating, like do I want to jump in?
I'm thinking about it. I'm not sure I'm not still
worth getting the pre approval, I mean, what's involved? Yes, preapproval?
M I pay anything for pre approval?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
No, I'm an idiot, So I can you're not an idiot?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Your I said they were.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Will No, I did.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yes, I can live with it.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Here. Here's what's good, though, is your thinking on the
side of someone that hasn't done this before, and us
as realtors, we're in it every day. So you're asking,
thank you, good question.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's a really nice way to say that I'm kind
of dumb on this, but that's fine. I could live
with it. Yes, what no I do? Do you jump
in and at least get that pre approval because, like
you said, I've been in that boat years back, and oh,
maybe we should think about you know, oh, because you
see a house that you like. It's not for sale,
but you think, oh, that's kind of a fun house.
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It would be nice to move. Let's maybe think about moving.
Let's think about that. And three weeks later that house
goes on the market and we're stunned, and then we're
hurrying yes and we've never been Yeah, you can't get
it done.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
It's stressful. You do not pay for pre approval, and
just in the sense of being able to sit down
with a lender and someone that can look over your
full finances all together and see what makes sense for you.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
They can weep with me.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, either or or cheer.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, weep, but at least we'll know what I can afford. Yes,
this outhouse might be just right. Yeah, when you're a
family of six, yeah, five, However.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, and even the lender, after reviewing all of your financials,
might tell you, oh, this is the perfect time, you know,
to purchase something, or let's you know, pay off this
credit card or do something with this. Why don't you
purchase in the next thirty days, maybe forty five days.
Let's boost your credit score whatever it may be, right,
really good at.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, really good info. You kind of create a strategy,
a plan, yes, to iron out some obstacles that you
might not have even thought about.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes before the househouse up in the market and you
either can't afford it, or it's not the right time,
you can't get the pre approval fast enough, whatever it
may be. You know, have the conversation now.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So sellers, have your conversation. Start talking to your realtors.
Find if you're thinking about something, find out when the
right time is buyers, yeah that pre approval and have
those conversations. Yeah, all right, let's switch gears. Let's talk
about styles and stuff like that. You know, I guess
I'm wondering about home design trends. You know, what are
buyers you know, really drawn to you right now? What
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are you seeing out there?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
We're seeing change in paint colors, and I'm I'm sure
you guys have talked about this and seeing this just
as a color of the year come out. But it's
almost like white is on its way out and these
like soft nudes beiges are coming in a lot of
the new build homes going up. It's now like an
off white cream or like a very soft yellow or something.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Throughout the whole world that we've had for a while.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Is now and I don't want to say it's out.
That's why I said it's kind of on its way out,
because we just don't see as much of it anymore.
There's definitely still houses going in that have white. I mean,
I built last year and I put all white on
my whole heart.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I was I was trying to remember. I thought, I
remember those conversations yet, Yes, yeah, so you're gonna repaint everything.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I already brought it up to my husband, like I'm
kind of thinking about repainting. He said, no, we're not.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
He used the were, No we're not. No, I'm not
so sad to see that go.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
You know, I know it doesn't bring much warmth into
the home until you I they're bringing furniture, natural woods
or artwork on the wall. Right, it's it doesn't bring
much warmth along.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
In a lot of beige, A lot of beige, sharably,
I mean, can they name it something different?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I mean beige I should get Yeah, I should have
came in here today with a better term than beige.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Well, no, that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But that's what it is. Yeah, And then we're also
seeing bright I don't want to say bright colors. It's
more of like deep colors.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Jewel tone colors.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes, And I hate I should have came up with
a better word for this. Accent walls, right, remember when
we all hated accent walls. But maybe it's because it
was just so heavily used years ago that everyone was like,
well quit where the accent.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Of course it was heavily used. Wait a minute, we
can paint one walls and you wouldn't get on board
with that. Yes, anywhere companies weren't so big on it,
but everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Else, No, they're they're selling their smallest bottle.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, it's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yes, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
So it died off a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yep, and now it's back more that we're seeing. Yeah,
and I would love to come up with a better
term than accent well. So if you come up with them,
let me know. It's either accent well or the whole
room including the.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Ceiling and we so that's color drenching.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Color. So we're seeing color drenching. But I've noticed that
builders are only doing it in like the office, okay,
And I think it's because they want to start to
get the feedback from the buyers as to if they
like it. If they like it enough, I think they'll
use it more so in bedrooms or whatever it may be.
But they're they're kind of playing with this in just
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in offices. And if you think about it in a
builders standpoint, if they're building a spec house, they don't
have a customer in mind, it is scary for them,
right to throw something out there, yeah, and hope that
a buyer likes it. At least it's only one room.
You can repaint one room easily.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Right, but still color drenching, that's about I mean, because
normally what we would hear in the past, they did
a lot of grays. Revere Pewter was where through the
entire home, and it's kind of boring in a way.
I mean there's a lot of people who you know
would go to bat for Revere Pewter. Yeah, but it
is kind of bland in a big, you know, seeping house.
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But it's really easy to work with. You can work
around it. You can see yourself in that because it
kind of just fades away, you know, when you're looking
through a house. I'm not seeing that. It's not challenging me.
If I walk into a space that's you know, the
ceiling's painted, the trim, everything, it's color drenched in a
you know, whatever color they're choosing. Wow, Because if I
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don't like that, it's not just oh I'll repaint. I've
got to repaint the ceiling, the trim.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yes, Oh my goodness, it's a big idea.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Surprised they're doing that now. I think what I want
to do is keep this conversation going. But we have
to take a break. So let's do that and then
we'll pick things up on the other side. Stick around,
and we're back. You're listening to the Reco Light Home
improvement show sponsored by Benjamin Moore and I'm in the
studio with Ginger Herman from Suprens Group five star real
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estate leaders and Ginger we ended last segment talking about
how you're seeing, you know, more and more new homes
incorporate color drenching into the paint job and color drenching
just to recap it's painting the entire room, you know, walls, ceiling, trim, doors,
all of it in one color. Color drenching. You're seeing
more of that. But how do you feel about it?
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You know, what do you think when you see it?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I like it because it's something different, right.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Do you think you like it as a person, or
do you like it as a you know, professional who
sees a lot of houses and it's like, oh, this
is nice, it's different.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Both We color drenched two of our rooms in our
current home, so I was nervous to do it, but
I love it. And yeah in the professional standpoint, yes,
I like it because it's different and people remember it,
so whether they loved it or hated it. There you know,
you see five houses, let's say, with this buyer, and
they walk away at the end of the day and
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when they go to categorize their houses, they'll probably say,
oh and then that one, that one house that had
the all black office or whatever. It's something that they
are remembering, whether it was good or bad, and I
think that's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, I know we went to years back. I remember
on the show, I went and toured some prey to
homes houses, you know, for the show, and talked about
them and stuff like that. And one of the takeaways
that we had was everything was Revere Pewter. You know,
went you know, seven different houses. I think we picked
and we didn't know going in what we were going
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to find, but wow, it's all the same color, all
the same color, all the same color. By the fourth house,
I don't have a terribly great perception of I'm not
a good navigator. If I spin around twice, I don't
know which ways which, and so by the fourth house,
I'm walking through it and I'm, you know, in all
my wisdom. I think Betsy was the one who was
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hosting the show with me at that point, and I
was saying, we've been here before, Yeah she was a
good navigator, and she said, we haven't been here before,
stopped saying this is new. Felt like the same stinking house.
And then we went to one that had a lot
of the same color, but it had two rooms like
a sunroom and another like a family room, living area
that was completely different. You know, a deep blue on
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the walls of one so memorable. Yeah, I mean I
can still picture that room. Yeah I can't. I couldn't
tell you anything like that. So I know that can
be really effective. Curious when you say people talk about it,
whether it's good or bad, they remember it. What do
you hear from people who've looked at them. Do they
seem to like that or is it split, you know,
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even split?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I would say it's an even split. I think it
depends on what they're using the room for. So a
lot of my clients one of one of the partner's
works from home, or if it's I mean it's a
single person too. A lot of people work from home
or have a home office, and that almost whatever room
that they've color drenched or made a little bit different, right,
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maybe they put French doors in, or they did funky
light fixtures or something they usually gravitate to, like, oh,
this is going to be a really cool office. That's
usually what I'm finding. So I think I think people
like it for the most part. If it's like, oh,
this was going to be my toy room for my
kids and it's all black, they might paint that. It
doesn't bring much creativity for kids young mind joy.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, seems like you know, an orphanage in a Dickens.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yes, And then we're we're also seeing just to switch
from paint colors, we're seeing no one's really doing ship
lap anymore. That's that's kind of that's a done deal
that I don't want to say it's done. People are
still kind of doing it, unless more so of it's custom.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
You know, there's somebody out there right now. I know
afternoon was going to be putting ship.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So I'm trying to be careful.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It just switched off the radio. Say what you want
to say?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Now? Where I where I see it. If it's a
if it's a new build like thrown in the laundry
room or a half bathroom, so it's just a small space.
We've added some sort of texture to the wall, right,
But people doing these feature walls now we're seeing a
lot more like natural woods or I don't even know
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how to describe this, but it's like they put up
a lot of trim and a funky pattern and then
painted over it. Does that make sense? Would you have
a term for that? You're looking at me like you
have no idea, So I.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Think I can picture what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Right, So they've put some trim up in some sort
of pattern along the wall, and it's usually not very symmetrical.
It's an asymmetrical, you know, funky design. They've painted over
the whole entire day. Oh okay, so you so your
house is quirky.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
That was part of the design, putting it not just
on the where baseboard or something would be it would
be like.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
A feature wall. Yes, instead of ship black, we're seeing
more of that. Or we're seeing natural wood. So we're
seeing like slat slatted slatted or slotted slatted slatted walls
of natural wood, which kind of ties into we're not
seeing as much white kitchen cabinetry anymore. We're seeing woods
come back again. I would say, like soft tones, right,
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not like the dark wood from the nineties or the
two thousands, but warmer woods. Yes, so like white cabinet tree. Yeah,
I still see it in maybe more like twenty to
twenty five percent of the homes. Even the tree cabinet
tree yep. Starting starting to either get all color or
that natural wood tone.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
How deep are the colors that you're seeing on the
cabinet tree?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Usually pretty deep, or at least the lowers in the
island dark might do a lighter tone on the top. Yes.
And when when I talk colors being brought in, most
of it is blues and green that we're seeing color
brought in.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Are you surprised or do you think I'm wrong?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
No? I think I'm the expert here, all right. No,
I think you're right, and I get no. I really
I'm just sucking in all the information. It's interesting. What's
interesting to me is that I'm thinking back. See, I
like to be right. This is an embarrassing admission. I think. No, No,
it isn't okay.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I worked with Hayley, and I really want her to
hear this. I think I'm going to play a clip
to her and just send it her. She doesn't work
with me anymore. She still works for Repcolite. But I
remember because blue and green these are my things, and
I've talked about it. Man. She would scoff at me,
whether it was on air or off. She would pull
her nose up shake her head every time I'd bring
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them up and be like, no, I was seeing the
future and now it's not. This is this is the
time of Dan and I want I want her to
know that. It's a little embarrassing that I'm that petty,
but I am.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
No, that's all right, you were. I think it's a
big deal for you, it is, I.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Like to be right. So color that's really interesting. I
like that. I'm glad to see at least a shift
or a turn slightly away from the all white. Yeah,
it's just it's more, it's warmer, and there's there's a
lot of personality that can be infused that way. I
think it's difficult. I mean, it's certainly possible to infuse
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you personality and what you feel about your space with
just white. Surely that's possible. But yet there's so much
of it. Yep. It's kind of nice to see, you know,
when there's all these different colors to choose from. Yes,
you know, if you want that all black color drenched
kids playroom, funhouse, horror show, Yeah, all right, so that's
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kind of cool. Paint colors. You're seeing that wood elements,
anything else that jumps out at you.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
No, I really don't you know what I mean? And
people probably say this wouldn't be a trend, but we're
seeing some funky furniture. And I don't know if if
that's just the recent homes that I've walked through, and
maybe that's because we had so many years of white
and gray, but I'm seeing a lot of like funky
furniture come through.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I need to know what that means. What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Like right, bright colors yep? And multiple colors meaning like
let's say you have a couch that's like dark dark
green and then you throw in like orange chairs or
something really yeah yep. And like I said, maybe it's
just I happened to be walking through all these houses
that have funky furniture. But and maybe that was a
way for people to bring in color in their gray
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and white houses. They were like, well we need something,
so let's get funky furniture.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
But you haven't seen it before. You're starting to see
crac Have you been through furniture stores recently?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
No? But I wish that would be yeah, you know that.
I feel like that was a bash at me, like
I should have done that before I walked into here.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well take it how you will. I will, so, Okay,
that's really interesting. I like that. Yeah, I got digging that.
Maybe I'll go to some furniture stores. Seems to be
something I might know what to do. Before you said that,
I guess let's move on. If someone sounding, you know,
someone's selling what upgrades? You know, small upgrades, maybe big upgrades.
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What do you think you know makes the biggest impact?
If if we're and before I let you do that
answer that, I'm always curious if we're looking at the
Lord of the Flies occurring, do they need to make
small updates? Is it even worth it?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
It's such a broad question for me because.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I know how we're just barbing back and forth.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yes, because I'm going to tell you, and I hate
saying this, but I'm going to tell you it depends
and it depends on what is in their house. If
they have all brass hardware in their kitchen from the
seventies and eighties, that's something I would tell them, Yeah,
we might want to switch everything out for black. It's
a cheap fix, right. Or you walk in the home
and there's like this gaudy light that no one's gonna want.
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It's the first thing you.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Walk in those people want it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, those even.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Want the only people on the face of the are.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
The only ones.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, I have.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Okay, well, maybe let's work on your house back. We
should do a walk through of your house.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I still talk about the time that Sue came through
to give me a price for what my home.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
No, did she bash you? Oh that exactly was typical.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Very kind of except she was all of those things.
But she kept touching my countertops and then she'd look
at her hand like maybe some of it him. Oh no,
and she said, Dan, your countertops. Oh, And I said,
I know, Sue, They've got to be changed, these countertops.
And sometimes she'd be in the middle of a sentence.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
And she'd go back. She was so stuck on it.
So she must have hated your countertops.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I'm keeping them. I'm keeping them. So anyway, so you're seeing,
you know, the light fixtures.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, light fixtures are a relatively easy and cheap thing
to switch out and hardware. And I say that because
we're still in a heavily black fixture, you know, world
Sometimes we see the gold, but it's a different goal
than what the eighties were. So I'm probably I might
offer to help you switch out some some hardware or
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some light fixtures. Paint, I don't know, not as big
of a deal to buyers. If we're in the lord
of the front, you know, the flies, crazy market fries.
I know, I stop myself, thank you. So if we're
in that craziness, you you might not have to paint.
But the same thing, it's it totally depends on your
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house because if everything is wrong I say everything, then yeah,
we might want to put more heavily influence on the
paint or doing case case I case. So that's why
I just have have us or your realtor walk through
your house and give advice now, because then you have
time to do these updates that will probably bring you
more money.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That right, I was going to ask that. I assume that,
and I think it makes the case for you know,
I know we talk about it every time you're here,
just because it's the right thing to talk about. But
it's easy to want to just I'll just do this
for sale by owner thing. And yes, there's a lot
of complications where you've got to figure out how to
do a lot of things, but even just the having
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somebody who's got you market savvy, you can help you
see things that you don't see, because, quite honestly, I
joke about those counters because she was, Oh, my stomach,
it's the lord of the Nobody heard it but my stomachs.
I'm so hungry. I joke about the counters that Sue
talked about. But I appreciated that because I hadn't really
(31:36):
I noticed them when I moved in, and then I've
been there a year.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
So you don't care anymore.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I didn't care. It's not new or strange to me.
It is what it is. I've gotten used to it. Yeah,
bigger problems, But if somebody else comes through, like a
realtor who knows what people will pull their nose up
at a little bit, who might might make them pause.
If I can get those things fixed and it's relatively
inexpensive hardware stuff like yeah, like you said, that can
(32:01):
play out to bigger money down the road.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yes, or even just getting the buyer to write on
your house insteade of the house down the street where
maybe maybe they only did you know cabinetry, you have
my encounters or they have your counters, right, it could
have been such a small difference to the next house
that they're looking at. But it's like one less item
on their list that they have to worry about switching out,
(32:24):
and who knows, they might never switch it out, but
it's a big deal to them at the time that
they're walking through houses.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
All right, I think that's a perfect spot for a break.
Let's play some commercials and then we'll come back and
finish this conversation in the next segment. Stick around and
we're back. You're listening to the Repcolite Home Improvement Show
sponsored by Benjamin Moore, and I'm in the studio with
Ginger Hermann from Superins Group five Star real Estate Leaders.
(32:54):
Ginger's been here the whole show, just dishing out all
kinds of good info, and we've got one last segment
to go in. Ginger, I just want to jump right
back into basically right where we left off at the
end of the last segment. When you're talking to people
who are selling, I know that there's something inside most sellers.
They find themselves wanting or at least feeling like they should,
(33:17):
you know, paint and do things like that. But I
also I think I'm assuming buyers come in almost sometimes
expecting and planning on doing that or amount of that. Themselves.
They want that to be their place. Yes, so you
could spend a lot of time as a seller, Yeah,
doing that, and they're going to redo it. Yeah. Do
you see that they generally tend to want to redo
that or.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
What do you some? It depends on how much funds
they have coming in. If they're spending a majority of
their funds just to get into a house and they
don't have the funds to then update the home, you know,
after so it kind of depends. But me as a
buyer's agent, when I walk through the house, I'm trying
to focus on layout and structure of the home because
(33:58):
the rest of it can be fixed. No, maybe not
within the first year if you're trying to replenish your
bank account. But let's focus on do you actually like
this layout, this neighborhood is the house? Sound? Are you
going to have major you know, a furnace expense or
something like that coming up. Let's try to focus on that,
and then let's yeah, let's joke and laugh about the
paint color that they chose, but shouldn't be a huge deal.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
No, if I can live with the counters that I've
lived with, clearly you can live with Yes, for a while. Yes, exactly,
so inspections. A while back when it was crazy, inspections
were being waved. Right, what do you think now we're
inspections now. Yes, you anticipate that we're going to be
(34:41):
back to waving inspections. We like when you bring up
the furnace thing that's a little scary dud. Yeah, that's
where you catch some of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, we will probably still see people wave inspections. It's
not near as what it used to be, closer to
COVID years when everyone was waving inspections just to get
at the house. So that's a major positive where it's
it's not like a done deal seller is not going
to accept your offer if you didn't wave inspections. I
(35:09):
think because both sides of it, both the listing agent
and the buyer side, we like it if inspections happen
for one after the sale, if something comes up such
a bigger ordeal, if they're like, we found this and
you didn't include it on your seller's disclosures, and it's
an easier way to say, well did you get inspections. No,
(35:30):
you didn't look into that. You chose to wave that.
You now have to deal with it after the sale, right,
So I think both sides are like, No, it's actually
a really good thing for us to have inspections. Let's
get this done up front. That way we don't have
issues down the road after closing.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You're so hoping that doesn't completely go away.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Again, agreed, Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So you know, last thing that I've got, you know,
maybe one common mistake. I mean, I'm sure there's a bunch,
but maybe one common mistake that you see buyers or
sellers making, be one for each one that they should avoid,
you know, And maybe it's something you've already talked about.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I do think it's something I've already talked about. It's
not doing your homework upfront and just wanting to dive in.
Whether it's a seller wanting to like, oh, I want
to list my house next week, or a buyer finding
the house and calling us and saying I want to
get this, and we say, have you talked to a
lender yet? No. It's super important to just talk with
(36:25):
your professional, your expert realtor upfront, and then along with
that your lender or your financial advisor whoever that you
are getting financial advice from. Do that now. Don't don't
wait until now. It's a rush, it's chaos. It's so stressful.
Then on the process of buying or selling, like, we're
(36:46):
here to try to make this easier and take a
lot of the stress out of you know, from you. However,
if you set yourself up for a little bit of
the disaster, we can't take all of that stress away.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, a magic like that.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So I would say, get all of this done well
ahead of when you actually think that you're going to purchase, because,
like you said, the house always comes up on the
market when you are.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Not expecting it, and it's such a bummer.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
It is a bummer.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
And then you drive past that house like all the
time waving. After you bought your other house, you took
what you could find. Yeah, but you drive past the
house that could have been yours. Yep, I mean maybe
that could happen. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I always
drive past the house that I missed.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
To go along with not doing your homework, we have
clients that think, oh, yeah, I can't afford to move,
or I don't you know, I don't want to take
the higher interest rate. Sit down and talk with us
in the lender first there's there's a big chance that
we can make this move and it's actually going to
make sense for you.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
So if you're thinking basically that twenty twenty five is
going to be here that you might want to sell,
you might want to buy, You might want to jump in,
just get all the stuff. Yeah, handled, Yeah it now
you change your mind.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, there's not no harm done like we talked about,
there's no fees.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, realtors aren't mad at you. No, you're not going
to stalk people. No, I won't.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I will leave them alone. I promise. You're looking at
me like I won't. I promise I will.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I've seen your Instagram page. Ginger does a lot of
stuff on her Instagram page, or she's got a cardboard
sign and stand places. Oh yeah, never in front of
people's houses, though, saying why why not me?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Oh but that just gave me the idea. Now I'm
going to.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
So when they see she never stalks, people don't check
out her page. That's what you're getting in for. If
they do want to reach out to you, or Sue
who failed to make the meeting today because she's yes
off vacation, Yes, warmer weather. Yes, they want to get
in touch with you guys. How do they find you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Mysell six one six, six, three, three, five eight eight
zero and then Sue's six one six, seven two three
twenty four hundred.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
All right, I'll put all of that in the show notes. Ginger,
thanks for hanging.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Out, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's gonna do it. If you'd like to catch this
episode again, you can find it online at repco light
dot com. You can find it there. You can find
it on Spotify, you can find it on YouTube. Go
find it wherever you get your podcasts and subscribe and
you'll never miss another episode. All right, Whatever you do
today makes your paints a part of it. Have a
great weekend, everybody, and I'll see you next week. I'm
(39:20):
Dan Handsome. Thanks for listening.
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