Smoke Signals, Hot Paint, and Laundry Lines

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Home in Progress, formerly known as the repcoll
At Home Improvement Show. It's going to be the same show,
same goals, just a name that kind of better fits
what home ownership is really like. I'm your host, Dan Hansen,
and around here we believe that a home isn't a
finished product, right, It's a work in progress. Real homes
are built one project, one paint can, one weekend at

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a time, and sometimes once in a while, that project
takes a little longer than we thought. Now, every week
we're going to dive into the real life side of
home improvement, the paint, the flooring, the plumbing, the design choices,
all of the stuff that makes your house a better
place to be, one step at a time. This week,
we're starting off with a conversation about backyard smokers. You
know what they are, why they're addicting, and how to

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get started. Then we'll be talking about the best paint
colors for north facing rooms. We'll go over some tips
for painting outside in the extreme ridiculous heat that we're
all dealing with, and then we'll wrap up with a
surprisingly satisfying case for hanging your clothes out to dry.
Home in Progress is probably brought to you by Repcoal
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advice and the tools to keep your projects moving forward.
Let's get started, and the place that I want to
start this week is Father's Day, a couple of weeks ago.
And want to start there because on Father's Day this year,
I received a smoker as a gift, and when I
first got it, I was super pumped about it. Was
super pumped about it, I guess I still am. But

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after unboxing it, setting it all up, and then standing
there looking at it for a good fifteen minutes or more,
I realized something important and intimidating. I don't know what
I'm doing at all, completely clueless when it comes to
smoking meats. So I figured I would use this opening
segment as a public service announcement for anybody else out

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there who's just starting out with smoking meats or maybe
thinking about getting into this hobby, this money sink that
it turns out to be. All right, let's start with
the basics. What is a smoker? Well, it's not a grill.
Looks kind of like a grill sometimes, but it's not
a grill. It's kind of a low and slow oven
that cooks food using indirect heat and smoke. You know

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that smoke's important. That's a big part of it. It's
why it's called a smoker, and it infuses flavor into
the meat and that low temperature that you're cooking at
usually you know, somewhere right around two hundred to two
hundred and seventy five degrees. That low temperature gently breaks
down tougher cuts of meat. Now with a smoker, you're
not flipping burgers. You know, you're not opening it up,
and you know, handling the food a lot and doing

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a lot of work like that. You're basically gently nurturing,
babying pork, shoulders, ribs, briskets, sausages, all of whatever you're
using over the course of hours plural. This is not
a quick fifteen minutes on the grill and you're in
the house again. This is ours. It's the long game.
And I really didn't understand that entirely until I started

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researching and I saw people talking about ten hour cook
times like it was no big deal. We shall see.
I live a life of rapid decisions, rapid movement. I'm
a go go go kind of person, and I'm going
to see how I do with multiple hour cook times
like this. We'll find out. So that's what a smoker is.

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That's the idea. Now when you're looking at them, there's
a bunch of different types of smokers out there, and
depending on what you choose, your experience is going to vary.
So I'm going to walk through just some of the
main ones. There are electric smokers, and these are basically
set it and forget it kind of things. You know,
you plug them in, you set the temperature, you add

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woodchips for smoke, and they hold steady. You know. That's it.
Not super flashy, but super easy. There are pellet smokers,
and these are higher tech units that burn compressed wood pellets.
They look a little bit like grills and they usually
have a digital control. Now on these, you can smoke,
you can row, you can grill. They're super versatile, and
they're a little bit pricier than the other ones. Charcoal smokers,

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that's another option. This is what I've got. These are
more hands on. You know, you're lighting charcoal, you're managing airflow,
you're watching temperatures, all of those things. You get a
great smoke flavor. One of the better ones, if not
the best one. There's debate out there, but people really
like these. But you do need to babysit these more
than electric or the pellet units, all right. Offset smokers

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another option. These have the firebox on the side and
the main cooking chamber to the left of the right.
They look classic and they're the trickiest to master. Basically,
you're trying to understand how to manage your fire, your fuel,
and your airflow, and that's all crucial to making this work.
So they're a little trickier in that regard Comado grills
just think the big green egg things. These are ceramic cookers.

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They hold heat like a dream. You can grill or
you can smoke on them. They're heavy duty, but they
do take a little bit of time, you know, to
learn how to maintain that temperature STEADI just a little
bit of a learning curve with those, all right. So
those are the smokers, the different types of them. But
that's only the beginning. Once you acquire that you're not done.
Now you need tools, and there are a lot of
tools that you can acquire as you fall into this

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rabbit hole that is this hobby, you know, Like I
said earlier, it's a money sink. I'm not just throwing
that word out there. And sometimes money sinks are great,
you know, we find hobbies. I fell into guitar and
that's also a money sink, and it's a wonderful money sink.
I recommend it to everybody out there. I think this
is that same type of thing. So there are a

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ton of tools that you can buy, and the price
ranges are all over the place. But I've compiled a
list of tools that every beginner absolutely needs. So this
is your go to gotta have list. You know, you
can add to it, but these are the must haves.
First thing, a good digital thermometer, because that one that's
built into the smoker. Everybody online says those are usually

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way off, so you want to probe that reads the
internal temperature of the grill accurately. You're also going to
need a thermometer for the internal temperature of the meat,
and preferably, you know, you want one that you can
leave in while it cooks. There are a lot of
wireless ones. They'll actually communicate with your phone and you
can just sit wherever with your beverage and watch your
phone and see the temperature of everything. You're cooking. You know,

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you can get some that will report, you know that
have two prongs and you can record or report the
internal temperature of the smoker and the internal temperature of
the meat all back to your phone on the same interface.
So a lot of different options out there. Some are
crazy pricy, but many are reasonable and they're well reviewed.
So dig into all of that. Get the recommendations that

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are out there. Another thing, you're going to need heat
resistant gloves because surprise, pulling a pork shoulder out of
a two hundred and fifty degree smoker isn't a job
for oven mits. So heat resistant gloves. You need a
spray bottle. You know, a little mister. I'm a little mister,
So that's not right. You need a spray bottle. You know,
you've got to miss to the meat during the cook

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to keep it from drying out. Sometimes some folks use
apple cider vinegar, others use apple juice or broth, but
you definitely need that little spray bottle. Aluminum pans. You're
gonna use these for water trays, for grease collection, just
resting the meat. Resting the meat, you know, it gets tired.
No resting it is a very specific part of the process.
I'll talk about it briefly at the end, but you'll

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use these pants for that, and they'll make clean up
way easier. You're gonna need tongs, a grill brush, and foil.
You know, these are obvious, but you really can't have
too many of them, and people use that foil in
the drip trays and stuff like that. Again to make
clean up easier. You're gonna need wood, pellets or chips,
depending on the smoker type. You know, you got to
figure out which one of those two you need. Pellets

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for pellet smokers, chips or chunks for electric and charcoal smokers.
But this is where the smoke flavor and all of
that comes from, so you'll need those. And of course,
if you've got a charcoal smoker, you're gonna need a
chimney starter and good charcoal, you know, something without additives, preferably,
all right, So as I acquire the supplies, the next
question that comes into my mind is what in the

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world should I cook? First? Well, of course I'm tempted
to want to try something like brisket right off the bat,
you know, it sounds awesome, but no, the entirety of
the Internet says, don't start with brisket. It's apparently like
the Soux fle of smoking. Instead, there are a wide
range of beginner friendly foods that get recommended instead. So

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chicken thighs, that's a really good thing to start with.
They're cheap, they're forgiving, they're good, they taste great. Sausages
are cubasa, low effort, high reward. Pork shoulder, you know,
it's great for pulled pork. Takes a long time, that's
the downside to that one, but it's hard to mess
that one up. Smoked mac and cheese. I didn't even
know this was a thing, but apparently it's amazing and

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not terribly difficult. Ribs these are a little more advanced,
but still they're doable if you follow a plan. Now,
I went with chicken thighs. You know, for my first run,
I figure low risk as inexpensive as you know, relatively
inexpensive if I mess it up and in a high reward,
you know, they're supposed to be really good. So we'll
do that. Now, the next question that comes up, and

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maybe there's you know, maybe your questions come up in
different order. This is how my questions came up. So
I figured out what I'm gonna cook. I figured out
what kind of smoker to get all of those things.
I got all my tools, but what kind of would
do I use to get the smoky flavor? Because there's
all kinds of different woods. I started to talk about
that a little bit earlier. Well, here's the gist of it.
There's apple or cherrywood. This is going to be sweet,

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you know, give it a sweeter flavor, and it's gonna
be great for pork or poultry. There's hickory strong classic,
it's gonna be great for ribs or pork, shoulder oak,
it's gonna be more balanced. It kind of works with
just about anything. And then there's mesquite, which is apparently
more intense. Most people that I ran into say, use
it sparingly or blend it with some of the other ones. Now,

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all right, if you're curious about the process, and I was,
I needed to know what the process is going to
look like. When I hear that it can take hours,
I need to know what it exactly that looks like.
Does it mean I'm glued to the smoker in the
backyard for hours and hours on end. How am I
going to pass my time, or do I get to
wander around and do other things and just pop in,

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pop out? You know, do I get to do it
that way? Well, if that's you, if you need to
understand how it's going to look like or what it's
going to look like before you jump in, I've got
a simplified version of the process, and it's really taken
from the perspective of smoking chicken thighs. You know, different
meats are going to take you know, have different requirements
for what you need to do, and it'll take different
amounts of time. But this will still give you an

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idea of what the whole process looks like. All right,
So first step, you need to set up your smoker
for indirect heat. So get your charcoal going on one
side of the firebox, put a water pan on the
other side to kind of help regulate temperature and moisture.
Then you're going to preheat the thing to around two
hundred and fifty degrees you know, that's your target cooking temp.
So you'll add wood chunks, you know, apple wood, cherry, hickory,

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whatever you choose, and you do that after you got
those coals ready. All right, So while that's heating up,
and getting ready. You're gonna prep the chicken or whatever meat,
but in this instance it's the chicken. So you're gonna
pat the thighs dry, you're gonna season them with your
favorite rub, and then you're gonna let them sit as
that smoker stabilizes and gets the temperature. Once that's set,

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you're gonna smoke everything on low and you're gonna smoke
it slowly, so put them on the cool side of
the smoker, skin side up. Let them cook for about
one and a half to two and a half hours,
you know, until the internal temperature of the chicken thigh
reaches one hundred and eighty to one hundred and eighty
five degrees. So you let that go for an hour
and a half to two hours, maybe three hours. And

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what you're doing in that timeframe is you're watching your
phone to see, you know, if you've got the digital
thermometer that reports to your phone, you know with bluetooth,
you're checking the temperature, the internal temperature of the chicken thighs,
and you're making sure that the temperature in the cooker
stays right around two hundred and fifty degrees. So you
might need to pop in and add some coals, add

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wood a little bit to just keep things moving. You
don't need to be glued to the thing. You get
to wander around and do other things and just keep
popping in and out. All right. After the two and
a half hours, three hours, when it reaches that one
eighty one eighty five internal temperature on the chicken, basically
you open it up and check it out. If the
skin isn't crisp yet, and if you want it to be.

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This is optional. You can finish them over the hot
coals for a minute or two per side, just to
get them a little crispier. All right. Then you need
to let them rest for five to ten minutes. And
that resting thing, we're going to talk about that in
a little bit. You let them rest and then you
dig in and that's it. That's it. Two and a
half three hours, Your first smoke is done. You're not

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doing a twelve hour brisket. You know. That's that's a
little bit much for this first try. Try something simple.
It's no stress. It's going to be good. So that's
the chicken thighs. That's what the process looks like. Now
after digging into everything, you know, I've come away with
a few things that kind of surprised me or intimidated
me a little bit, sometimes a mixture both. First off,

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you're probably picked up on it already, but temperature management
is everything, and charcoal smokers specifically take more attention than
electric or pullet smokers. So that's something I'm going to
have to work on and pay attention to as I'm going.
I can't just be distracted and let this thing go.
I've got to be on it, and that's a little intimidating.
I can pull it off, but it is a little

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intimidating as I go in. Second, you need to let
the meat rest after smoking it. And I mentioned this earlier.
I'm going to explain it just a little bit here
because it's important and I'd never heard that concept before
until I dug into this. You know, I was all
about me resting, but I didn't know that the smoked
meat needed to rest. But it's very important. If you
skip the step, it's going to be a problem or

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you're going to affect the flavor. So in smoking meat,
resting refers to the time or the period after the
meat is done cooking, but before it's sliced or served
it's crucial. Here's why. First off, when the meat cooks,
all the juices get pushed towards the outer edges. When
you rest it before serving it, those juices have time
to move back towards the center so they don't all

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spill out when you cut into it, so you're not
getting this dry piece of leather that you're serving. The
juices will redistribute, the texture improves. It's another thing that
resting does. It helps the meat firm up a little bit,
makes it easier to slice, and gives you a better
final texture. Also, the temperature stabilizes that internal temperature usually
rises a few degrees during the first part of the

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rest and then it starts to cool after that. This
helps finish the cooking process gently, all right. So that's
something else I wasn't aware of a little intimidating. I've
got to get that figured out. There's a lot of
difference different ways or times to let the meat rest,
depending on the meat that you're smoking. So look into
that and there's different ways to do it. Sometimes you

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just leave them out, Sometimes you wrap them in something.
Sometimes you build a little that you're going to need
to just look into it. Specifically for the meat that
you're smoking, So dig into that. Don't forget about the resting,
all right. Another thing that was intimidating is that a
lot of people who really get into this keep a notebook.
You know, they log what they cooked, what would they used,

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what temperature they hit, how long it took, and that
helps them dial in their process over time. And why
is that intimidating? It's intimidating because there's that much going on.
There's so many variables at play in order to get
to a good result. You know, these people who do
it all the time have all these notes that they've compiled.
It feels like we're building some sort of huge scientific

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device here. You know, it's intimidating. I can pull it off,
but man, there's a lot going on. Finally, lots of
people that I know who do this, This is my
favorite part. Lots of people that I know who do
this talk about their failures. You know. They talk about
their successes too, of course, but they're not shy about
the failures, you know, failure or less than stellar results.
That's all part of the process, you know, It's part

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of learning the skill, you know, and I like that
that's a pleasant surprise to find out that failure is
always an option, because when you're me, failure is always
in the cards. You never know when it's gonna come up.
All right, that's a quick overview, very very brief. A
lot more of the process in the hobby, but it's
a quick look that maybe what's your appetite, you know,

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if you're looking for a new hobby and you'll like
to eat, well, who knows, maybe this is your next
big thing. All right, that's smokers. Let's shift gears now
pretty dramatically. Have you ever wondered why your carefully chosen
paint color just looks off, just doesn't look right in
your living room? That's next. Right after this, you're listening
to Home in Progress, Real projects, real life, and a

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little bit of paint on your hands, in your eyes,
in your hair, on your shirt everywhere. Home in Progress
is sponsored by Repcolite Paints and Benjamin Moore, offering expert advice,
premium paint, and all the tools you need to keep
your home moving forward. All right, I've talked about it
a ton of times here before, but it's worth repeating

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because it's so key to this conversation that we're going
to have light, especially natural light, has a huge impact
on how paint colors appear on your walls. Now, that's
pretty obvious, I think to most people. That's not not
one of those statements that people gasp about. You're kidding me.
That's true. Yes, it's true. We get that. A lot

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of us get that. But what's not quite as obvious
and definitely not as easy to pin down, is this
the direction that a room faces, the way that it's
exposed to sunlight, and that natural light that can dramatically
affect the quality of light in that space, and that
in turn has a huge influence on how any given

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color is going to actually look in a space. So
over the next few weeks, we're going to break it
down one direction at a time and talk through the
quirks and considerations that come with each one. Today we're
starting with north facing rooms. Now, these spaces get light
that's cool and steady throughout the day, and while that
sounds really good, it often results in a room that
kind of feels a little bit flat, you know, a

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little bit chilly, depending on the color that you chosen.
The good news here is that you can absolutely conteract
that vibe if you choose your colors intentionally. So let's
dig into what works and why in a north facing space. Now,
first things first, let's understand the challenge that we're dealing
with north facing rooms. They get light from the sky,
not direct sunlight, and that means the light is cooler,

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it often dips into blue gray tones, and it's steady,
like I said, throughout the day, So paint colors don't
shift dramatically with the sun when they're in north facing rooms.
That lack of warm sunshine can make even mid tone
paint chips look like dull grays or overly blue. Designers
often are warning bright whites and cool tones are going
to look stark or lifeless, or at least can, especially

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if you're trying to force a bright, sunny feel in
a room that naturally feels dim and cool. So if
you want to make a north facing room feel cozy
and inviting, you need to select colors with warm undertones, yellows,
peachy neutrals, earthy greens, light beiges. Colors like that these
are going to conor balance that cool light instead of
fighting it. So if you're looking for soft whites in

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your north facing room, try colors like Benjamin Moore's cotton balls,
white chocolate, or timid white. All of these offer a
little bit of warmth and they're gonna make that space
fuel inviting. If you're looking for neutrals, you know, maybe
that's your thing, try colors like Benjamin Moore's elephant tusk
or wheeling neutral, or maybe grayzis like tapestry beige or
linux tan. These are gonna feel more grounded and you know,

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more welcoming. They're gonna feel more welcoming under north light.
If you're looking for depth with your colors, you know,
more than what I've talked about, north light supports it beautifully.
You can pull it off. Just try deeper blues or greens,
but always those that have a little bit of a
yellow undertone. You know, so deep teal or moss green,
not cool navy or something like that. If you really
want to infuse the space with a little sunshine, you know,

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really try to warm it up. Peachy pinks, creamy yellows,
warm apricot tones. Colors like western flax, head over heels,
and satchel. All Benjamin More colors, they're going to bring
a bit of a glow that combats that natural coolness. Now,
I know, I just reeled off a bunch a boatload
of colors really quickly. And the good news is I've

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got all of this information in the show notes. If
you want to revisit it, just go to repcolit dot com,
click on the radio tab on the homepage and you
can find the most current episode and all of the
colors that I just listed are in the show notes
right there all right. As you narrow down your color choices,
don't forget that there's nothing better than wet sampling the
colors in your space. We sell Benjamin More color samples

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for five ninety nine each and they give you enough
paint to roll out a section on your wall or
onto a poster board or something like that, so you
can see the color in your space and your lighting
at different times of the day. It's definitely worth the
time and the effort to make sure that you're picking
a color that you're going to love. So wrapping it
all up, North facing rooms don't need to feel colder, uninspired.
There are colors out there that are going to work

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in those spaces to get to the tone or the
atmosphere that you want to create. I just gave you
a bunch of them to start with to explore and
work out. Make sure you sample them. And also if
you're running stuck, just swing into any Repcolite Paints location
near you and talk to the people there. Bring pictures
of your space, let us know what you're working on,
and we'll help you find colors that get to exactly

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where you want to be. All right, next week we're
going to look at south facing rooms and the challenges
associated with those. Now, next up, we're going to be
looking at the high temps that are out there, high temperatures.
We're looking at you, and we're going to talk about
how you can successfully paint outside even when the temperatures
are pushing to the levels that they have. Then all
of that's coming up after This Home in Progress is

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brought to you by Repcolite Paints and Benjamin Moore. Top
to your paint expert advice. Your next project is way
easier than you think it's going to be. Well, I'm
sure that I don't need to tell you it's been hot, right,
I mean, we're all talking about it. It's all people
are talking about, you're all experiencing it. The other day

(21:58):
I leaned against some I don't even remember what you know.
I've been outside, leaned against something, and I almost needed
five people in the jaws of life to get me
unstuck from it. I stuck to the surface that I
leaned against. My shirt was stuck. I was stuck. I'm
a soggy mess the whole time. This whole week, I've

(22:19):
just been I'm wrinkled because I've been so soggy this
whole time. And I know you don't need to know that.
But my studio, you know, just let me take a
quick aside. Here my studio where I record, where I'm
recording right now, there's no air. I mean there's air.
I'm breathing air. There's no air conditioning. It's a brick building,
so it's like an oven. Once it heats up, oh,

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it retains that heat. Let me tell you. I walked
in the other day. I've been getting here so early,
you know, because I keep thinking I'll get there early
before it really heats up. Well, I got here the
other day at six thirty or so and walked in,
checked the thermostat, and it's eighty six degrees at six
thirty in the morning, and it's only going up from

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there because there's no way to cool it down. Yeah,
it's crazy, it's crazy. It's absolutely pleasant, right, wonderfully pleasant.
And I know we're hearing people say things like, and
these are do gooders, you know, optimists. I don't know,
maybe they're just you know, they just want to rankle us.
But they're seeing things like, well, you know, in a

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few months, we're going to be wishing we had this weather, right, right,
really a few months is September. Do the math and
first off in the past few years, are any indication
we will have this weather? Then? Right, it's going to
be miserable in September two it always seems to be.
And even if we don't, if we do have like

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blessed seventy degree weather, if it's literally really fall in
September slash October, I'm certainly not going to be wishing
for the withering heat to return. Boy, I'd sure like
to be outside wishing I could take off even more
clothes so I could survive. Now I'm gonna be appreciating
sweatshirt weather. I Am not going to be wishing for
the withering heat. And then you've got the other people

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who think about it a little deeper, and they say
things like, well, when winter comes and we've got our
Michigan snow, you're gonna be wishing for this heat, right,
so enjoy it still. I'd personally, you know, rather have
the cold. And I kind of hinted at it already.
I can bundle up, I can layer clothing, you know,
I can put on coats, I can put on a sweatshirt,
I can put on long underpants, I can do all

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kinds of things. But in the summer, in the heat,
there's only so much that you can take off before
certain you know, lines are crossed, you know, before the
police have to get involved, before a lot of things
happen before you end up on the news. So anyway,
I know everybody means well, and there isn't much use
in complaining. I'm not trying to complain. We can't change

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the weather. This is what we've got, so let's just
make the most of it. Right in the midst of
this scorching, humid stretch, a lot of questions come up
about exterior pain. You know, I've been handling a fair
amount of those. People are wondering, what are the ramifications
of painting in the heat. Is it even possible can
we do it or do we have to wait for
this fall or next spring sometime. Well, if you have

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projects still coming up this summer that you'd like to
get to, exterior projects, good news is you absolutely can
do it. You just need to understand what heat does
to paint and how to work around all of that. So,
first off, let's talk about what extreme heat and humidity
actually due to the paint that you're applying. Now, when
you look at you know, Benjamin Moore, go to their website,
you do a little research. Benjamin Wore is going to

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note that most of its products have an optimal application temperature,
and that range is usually between thirty five degrees fahrenheit
and one hundred degrees fahrenheit, preferably with low humidity. Now,
admittedly that's a crazy broad range, right thirty five degrees
to one hundred degrees, So it kind of feels like
it's a green light to paint. You know, if you're

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not frozen outside, you're not freezing, and if your skin's
not bubbling off as you stand outside, you can paint.
You know, you're within the range. But there are some
caveats that you need to think about and be aware
of and first off, it's this, regardless of that sweeping generalization,
you know, the thirty five degrees to one hundred degrees.
Regardless of that, regardless of the fact that Benjamin Moore
says that's the general range, you need to always consult

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the CAN label or the technical data sheet on the
product that you're using. You know, not all products are
made the same, and just because one product from a
given brand works in certain temperatures, that doesn't mean that
they're all going to be the best for those situations.
So check the label every time. It's just a good
safety step to make sure that the product you're using

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is suitable for the situation you're in. And that applies
to heat, but it also applies to low temperatures as well.
There is going to be some differences around there, so
definitely dig into that before you just jump in. Secondly,
don't forget that the temperature range that they're giving, the
one that you're reading on the CANS label or on
the tech data sheets, remember that that range includes surface temperature,

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not just air temperature. You know, a surface that's been
sitting in the direct sun can be way hotter than
the air temperature, even as that surface transitions into shade,
it can retain that heat for quite a while. So
you could have air temps that are right in the range,
but that surface temp could be you know, ten to
fifteen twenty degrees above the range yet, just because it's

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been sitting in the sun. So keep that in mind
when you're determining whether or not you can start painting. Now,
why does it matter. Why can't you paint on a
surface that exceeds the recommended temperature range? Well, if you do,
it can lead to a lot of different problems that
can be really tough to fix down the road. For example,
the heat can cause the paint to bubble and blister

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as it dries. That's going to compromise the paint film's integrity.
You know, that's bad. You don't want that. The surface
can be so hot that it causes the paint to
dry really quickly, and that can make it difficult to
blend the edges together. As you're working, you know, you're rolling,
and you come back with the next row or whatever
you want to call it, the next swatch of paint
that you're rolling on, and that first one that you

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rolled just minutes before can already be starting to dry
if that surface is too hot, and rather than having
a wet edge that you can blend right together with
the new paint that you're rolling on, you end up
with dried areas and it makes it very tough to
blend these things together. You end up with lap marks
and it's really a pain in the neck to try
to fix down the road. Not an easy fix at

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all once that starts happening, So you don't want that
all right. Also, the paint may dry unevenly and that
can lead to a finish that's not smooth and consistent,
so shiny spots, flat spots, dull spots, you know, it
just doesn't look nice. That can happen. The quick drying
can also lead to poor adhesion, and of course that's
going to shorten the life span of the paint job.
There are more things that could go wrong, but really

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those should be enough to make you want to do
it right. So how do you do that? How do
you do it right? The simple answer is to do
what the professional painters do and chase the shade. You know,
start early in the morning before the surface heats up,
when the dew has burned off at least, but early
enough before it really heats up, and then as the
day progresses, just as much as you can work your

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way around the home, stayin in the shade as much
as possible. If you want to be extra safe as
you work, before you even jump into it, go ahead
and pick up an infrared thermometer. You know, these things
look like radar guns. You can measure the surface temp
just by pointing at it and then clicking the trigger.
They're cheap, crazy cheap really for what you're probably thinking.
I think you can find them for thirty bucks. You

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can find expensive ones, but you can find one that
will be adequate for thirty bucks or so. And you
can scan the surface temperature easily. You know, from wherever
you're sitting from a place of comfort, you can scan
that surface temperature before you even get up to go
out and start gathering your tools, and you can decide
if it's good enough for painting or not. So do that.

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If it's within the range, you know, the recommended range
for your product, then go for it. If it's not,
if it's too hot, don't start all right. Another thing,
and this one's obvious, but don't forget that the heat
isn't just tough on your paint. It can put a
strain on you as well, right, and not just make
you bitter and grumpy, but it's not good for you,
you know, it can actually be unhealthy, and it can

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be unhealthy or dangerous or concerning for your painter. If
you're hiring the work done, so make sure you're drinking
lots of water, use sun protection, wear breatheable clothing, take
regular cool down breaks, all of that stuff. And when
you take a break, here's a quick tip. Place your tools,
of course in the shade. You know, put your roller
tray and your roller in there, and lay your brush

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in there. Put that all in the shade, and then
drape a damp cloth over the tray or the bucket
or whatever you're working out of. And that's going to
prevent it from skinning up as it dries or getting crusty,
and it's also going to keep bugs and leaves another
debris out of your paint. So that's a really good
way to go. Remember that also, if you've hired a
contractor to do the work and you're not the one
out there doing it, you're in the comforts of air

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conditioning watching them work. If that's your situation, I can
guarantee you that you will be a rock star among
people if you take some steps to provide your painters
with a shady area to take their breaks. You know,
whether it's umbrellas, whatever you've got, you know, patio umbrella,
stuff like that. If you've got big trees, great, maybe
keep cold waters in the fridge, break them out from

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time to time. Nobody's going to say no to that.
Gatorades that are cold, that would be wonderful. They'd love
it if possible, even offer them. You know, the use
of the of an indoor space with air conditioning if
you know, like I said, if that's possible in your situation.
Last thing is to be sure that you pick products
that are designed to function in weather like you're working in.
You know, if it's colder or if it's hot. Make

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sure that you're getting products that are designed for that.
The best product that you can afford that's designed for that.
You know, buying cheaper inferior paint just isn't worth it.
Putting the paint on, you know, think about it this way.
Putting the paint on to that surface, that exterior. If
you know that's what you're doing, that's what we're talking about.
So let's say you're painting your house. Putting the paint

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on takes the same amount of work. Whether it's quality
paint that's gonna last and last, or whether it's cheap
paint that's gonna fade and struggle quickly. It's not worth
trying to save a few bucks or even a couple
hundred bucks only to end up with paint that doesn't
last beyond a few years. You're gonna spend a lot
more time and money trying to fix a cheap paint
that failed than you would have just by spending the

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money on the good stuff right off the bat. Paint
isn't all equal, and I know it seems like there's
not a lot to a gallon of paint, and that
they all seem kind of the same when you look
at them in the can. But there's a reason, you know,
there really is a reason that there's an eighty dollars
price tag on one and a twenty five dollars price
tag on another. It's not just the brand, you know,
it's not just hype or something like that. The better

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paint is made with better ingredients, better technology, and that
means it's going to apply better, it's gonna last longer,
it's gonna hold its color better, and all of that stuff.
So get the good stuff. It's not worth skimping. And
when it comes to the good stuff or a exterior
and regal select high build, both of those are great.
They're going to offer superior UV resistance, flexibility, a great

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adhesion on a variety of different surfaces. You can't go
wrong with them. They're from Benjamin Moore repcolites in Dura,
another great exterior product, definitely something to think about. And
then there's Benjamin Moore's element Guard. Now. Element Guard is
a newer product and it will work in cold temperatures
as well as extreme heat. But its main claim to
fame is that it's rain ready in a single hour,

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which means if you paint with element Guard and then
we get a pop up shower, you know, just an
hour after you painted, the paint film is going to
be unaffected. Even at driving rain won't hurt element Guard
after just an hour. Now, my son, he is working,
this is his second year. He's working on a crew
painting crew doing exteriors, and they were working last week
in Grand Rapids and he came home and he told

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me about an unexpected rain shower that came out of
the blue, you know, caught them all by surprise. And
it was lily like a Benjamin Moore commercial because the
crew leader told everybody as they're waiting out the rain
that they were fine not to worry about it because
they were using element Guard. It was kind of fun
to hear, you know. They were all worried because they
just accomplished a lot of areas that they painted that

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they did not want to have to get the ladders
out and do again. So they were asking, are we
gonna have to redo everything? The guy said, hey, don't
worry about it. It's element Guard. You're good to go.
So that's really fun to hear. There are a lot
of marketing claims that get made by paint companies, and
often they're stretching the truth. Element Guard, that's the real
deal and it can really save your project. On top
of that, element Guard is going to be on sale

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all July long, so I should get that in here
before we wrap this up. We're not exactly there yet.
It's not July yet, and I am jumping the gun
a little bit. But if you do come into Repolite
starting July one. You can get element Guard for about
forty five to fifty bucks per gallon, depending on the
finish that you pick. You're basically going to save twenty
bucks for every gallon. The sale is going to run

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all July long. No, it's not going yet. I've said that,
said it a couple times, but it's going to start
next Tuesday. Heavy summer heat and humidity don't have to
doom your exterior paint job, but they do demand smarter planning.
With the right products, the right schedule, a little bit
of patience, you can keep your home looking great all
summer long. Now, if you've got an exterior paint project

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on the horizon, stop out at Repcolite and let us help.
All Right, we're hitting the last segment here, and I'm
sure everybody out there is sitting on the edge of
their seat waiting with baited breath for the conversation about clotheslines. Well,
the good news is it's coming up right after this,
and the better news is that it's really worth the wait.
This is home in progress where the to do list

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is long, and that's all right. We're not crabbing at you.
We're not going to yell at you. That's how it is.
It's how ours is too. It's probably supported by Repcolite
Paints and Benjamin Moore because home projects are easier when
you've got people you can trust. Well. I've got loads, loads,
boat loads of great memories from my childhood, you know,

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a ton of them. But one of them that really
hits hard is kind of weird. It's the clothes on
the line in our backyard. You know. It was always
Mom's thing. We had a pool, and we spent most
of the summer in the pool, and I remember swimming
around and seeing Mom pinning clothes on the line, you know,
doing all the work while we're all hanging out in
the pool and kicking around and laughing and having fun.

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Not dad. Dad was at work except on the weekends.
Then Dad joined us and left Mom putting clothes on
the line. But after swimming, I remember running to the
clothes line and then yanking off a warm towel. I
love that. I remember the sound of sheets flapping, you know,
on the line in the breeze. I sometimes made tents
out of the sheets, and that could get me in

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trouble if I wasn't careful, and if I got them dirty.
But it was worth it. It was a ton of fun,
and it wasn't just Mom doing it. You know, everywhere
we drove when I was growing up, there were houses
with clothes out on the line. I remember pulling into
Grandma's driveway at her old farmhouse and seeing three or
four lines full of law, you know, hanging there, great
big underpants flapping in the breeze. You know. Sometimes Grandma

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was out there with the laundry basket waving at us.
Those were really good memories, pure nostalgia. You know. The
nostalgia is pure with that one. Anyway, hanging clothes on
the line. For a lot of us, that's something that
we haven't done in ages, you know, if we've ever
done it. Maybe our parents did it, maybe our grandparents
did it, maybe the neighbors all did it. But are
you taking advantage of this crazy old technology, this Gramma

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tech to dry your clothes? Maybe you should be. And
I think when we're all done talking, I'm going to
have converted a lot of you. So if you're thinking
that there's no way you're going to get interested, let's
just find out, all right, And it's not just about
saving a few bucks on your electric bill. Although that
is part of it, you know, so that's that's a

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big part of it, a little part of it. Let's
not say it's a big part of it. Here are
a bunch of different reasons why it's worth thinking about.
First off, your clothes are going to last longer when
you hang them out to dry. You know, every time
you run a dryer, you're breaking down the fibers and
your clothing. You know, all that fuzz. I've never thought
about this because I'm a complete moron sometimes, but all

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that fuzz in the lint trap, what is that? That's
not extra extra stuff that you're just finding. That's your shirts,
that's your socks, that's your underpants and towels, all slowly
wearing away. You know, heat and friction can be really
rough on fabrics. Line drying avoids both of those things
and your clothes. You're batting, your towels, your underpants are

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going to look better and last longer because of it.
So there's one big benefit right off the bat. Another one,
you're gonna have fewer wrinkles to deal with. You know
how many times have you pulled a wrinkled mess out
of the dryer because you forgot about it, you know,
out of sight, out of mind, and then you get
it out, you look at it, and it leads to
another cycle in the dryer if you're us, or it

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could lead God forbid, it could lead to ironing, which
is just that is an art. I don't know. I
don't think I'm ever going to master or understand or
even get adequate at. So I normally throw everything back
into the dryer and run it for another round. But shirts,
pants and sheets and all of that hung out on
the line to dry. They come in almost wrinkle free.

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So that's a huge win, huge win. There's also the
energy savings, all right, Appliances they account for, you know,
something like thirteen to fourteen percent of your household energy use,
and the dryer is one of the biggest defenders. You know,
it's just sitting there sucking up energy and running up bills.
This past Saturday, this is what is why this is

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all in my head anyway, this is why we're talking
about it this week, is because the last Saturday I
washed a ton of blankets. It took me all day
long to move them through the washer and the dryer,
and all day long the dryer ran burning up money
and as it was going, and as I'm doing that,
I kept wishing that I had clothes lines in place
so I could use them. Now, if you like the

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idea of saving energy, saving a little bit of money,
keep in mind that during the spring, summer, and fall,
the sun is a free and incredibly effective dryer. Even
on partly sunny days, you know, breezy days, it's going
to get the job done. So think about that. Another one,
the convenience of line. You know, drying clothes on the
line might surprise you. You know, you might think it's

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going to be inconvenient because it's old tech. You know,
the dryer is more convenient. Well, large items, sheets, blankets, towels,
they're easier to fold after they've been on the line
drying because they're not twisted or bundled up like they
are when they come out of a dryer. And more importantly,
you can often hang more at once than your dryer
can handle. That's what I was thinking. With all the

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blankets that I was trying to dry, I was drying
them one at a time. I could have filled my
lineup with blankets. The washer wasn't the thing slowing me down.
It was the dryer. If I could have gotten those
blankets out onto the line, I'd have been golden. So
with the right setup out there, you can actually move
through your laundry day faster by using the clothes line
to dry your stuff. All right, Another overlooked benefit. Dryers

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heat up your house, even vented dryers. Depending on the cycle,
a dryer can emit temperatures over one hundred and twenty degrees.
Now that's okay in February, maybe it's even good to
some extent, but in July, it's just making your air
conditioner work harder and harder and harder. It's driving up
your cooling costs, and even more important, it's making us

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sweat more. Right, hotter house, you're sweating more. And what
happens when you sweat more while you're putting it all
into your clothing, And when your clothing is full of sweat,
you gotta wash it more often. And then when you
wash it, remember what happens to heat and the friction.
They're beating it up, So we're actually tearing our clothes apart.
It's a vicious cycle. If you just get them outside

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on the line, all of that stops. Some of that stops.
I'm being a little dramatic there, but I think you
get the point line. Drying another benefit reduces your risk
of dryer fires, right, because you're not running the dryer
as much. Dryers are one of the more common sources
of household fires. It's caused by the lint building up,
and we just don't get that out, you know, and
not just from the lint trap, but from the ducks themselves.

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Hanging your clothes out on the line, it's gonna cut
the wrist down dramatically. It's just one less thing to
worry about. And don't forget about this last one that
I've got. Last benefit of drying the clothes on the line.
The sun is a natural disinfectant and deodorizer. Ultra violet light.
It kills odor causing bacteria, mold spores, even some viruses.
And it's not just hype. Sunlight really does, you know,

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remove smells, eliminate smells that you're dryer can't some musty towels,
sweat soaked gym shorts or shirts. I guess I didn't
need to say shorts that made it grosser than it
needed to be, stubborn organic stains, things like that. Sunlight
gives you you know, a natural chemical free boost at
getting those smells out and stains out and all of that,

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and combining it with the fresh air, it's going to
help all of the things that cause bad smells to
dissipate faster, you know, to just move away quicker. So
bottom line dryers are going to mask odors with heat
and softeners and all of that stuff. Sunlight is actually
going to help eliminate them. Okay, So with all of
those benefits, and that's a lot of good stuff, what's

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stopping us? Why aren't we all rushing out to the
store right now to buy closed lines and armfuls of
clothes pins and all of that. Well, real life is
stopping us. You know, we're cynical. We've seen things. We've
been around the block. We know that it's not all
you know, it's not all sunshine and daisies. When it
comes to clothes lines. There are bugs and birds, dusty

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days and more, a lot of reasons why I might
not want to put my clothes outside to dry. Well,
good news is there. While there are a bunch of
objections objections, there are a lot of answers to those objections,
and let's just work our way through a few of them,
and let's start with space. Not everybody has a big backyard, right,
that's a pretty good objection. I don't have space for this.

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I don't have a spot where I can permanently set
up poles and clotheslines, you know, in my yard. Well,
that's actually not a problem. There are a lot of
different options out there for small yards, or if you
literally don't have yard space, there are options that you
can use indoors and still be hanging up your clothes
to dry. So retractable clothes lines that's one way that
you could go. They'll mount to a wall or a

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fence or a post or whatever. Then it pulls out.
It's retractable, you know what that means. Pulls out, you
snap it to another side. You can use it when
you need it, and you just zip it back in
place when it's not in use. So, retractable clothes lines,
that's one way to go. Umbrella or rotary drying racks,
we've seen these. They're foldable, they're relatively compact. Some models

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you can remove them from their base entirely. They'll spin
so you've got easy access to all sides. They can
be installed on just a small patch of grass. They
can be mounted in a weighted base. They can be
easily moved around. That's another way to go. Wall mounted
folding racks. You know, they'll fold flat against the wall
when not in use. They come in metal or wood options.

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They're great for your back porch, for your balcony, maybe
a fence panel, on and on. Basically, don't write yourself
out of the clothesline drying gig. There's a solution for
every space. Okay, what about allergens. That's another big one.
Hanging clothes outside can leave them coated in pollen, especially
during peak allergy season, and that's going to make your
freshly cleaned laundry, you know, kind of like a booby trap.

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You're gonna be all puffy and sneezy and all of
that just because you tried to follow my advice and
hang your clothes on the line. How do you deal
with that one? Well, to reduce the risk, try hanging
your clothes out earlier in the morning, you know, before
pollen levels start to climb. And you can also, by
all means, we've all got phones with eight million apps
on them, and lots of those apps, at least half

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of them seem to be weather apps, and on those
weather apps you can get your local pollen forecast and
you can aim for hanging your clothes out on lower
count days. That's another way to go. If you're still
concerned about it, you could dry indoors near an open
window or with a fan to kind of mimic that
fresh air feel. And if you've got a screened in
porch or a sun room, that's kind of a great

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middle ground. You can get the fresh air moving through
and still minimize the pollen. So I can't completely solve
the allergen problem, but it can be minimized, all right.
What about birds? Birds are a concern? You know, they
wait for us to wash our cars and then they
do their thing on the clean cars. And you can
bet if you put your clothes on the line, they're
coming for them too, right, well, not necessarily, or if

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they do come for them, you can deter them. You
can get them to go away. First off, and this
is obvious, but people really do mess this up all
the time. First up, move your bird feeders away from
your clothes drying area. Don't bring the birds in with
food and then be surprised when they stay to use
the restroom. It's just natural. It's how they're going to

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do it. So move the bird feeders way far away
from the clotheslines. Obvious, but just go check it out.
People mess this up a lot. Second. Hang shiney ribbons
or old CDs or you know, little mylar strips. Mylar,
I think that's the right word, the little shiny strips.
I think I already said that shiny ribbons. Hang those
on the lines. That'll be a visual deterrent. Birds don't

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like that. Plastic owls that also works. And it looks
crazy cool. I mean, you've got this huge bird of
prey perched on your clothesline. Who doesn't think that's cool.
It's kind of like you're a pirate. Well not really
a pirate because they had parrots, you know what I'm saying.
It's just a cool look and it'll keep the birds away.
You could try that. If you've got trees overhead, of course,

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trim them back so they're not overhanging your lines. And
if you're installing clotheslines, make sure you're looking for spaces
without trees nearby. If you can do that, you know,
don't think about that. That's a nice shady spot to
be putting clothes on the line in the summer. Don't
think about it that way. You'll regret that. You'll rue
the day that you put them in the shady spot,
because the birds will teach you a lesson. All right,

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what about bugs? A few years back, I hung some
damp towels on the line. Because we're not hanging dry
towels on the line. That doesn't make any sense. So
I put some damp towels on the line, and a
few hours later they're all good, and I brought them
into the house, grabbed the first one out of the basket,
shook it out as I'm getting ready to fold it,
and suddenly I have sprayed the table, the nearby children,

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pretty much most of the kitchen with about twenty or
thirty crunchy, little flying bugs that were all hidden in
the towels. In seconds, the kitchen, the home went from
you know, the usual, to something that felt like a
biblical plague was happening. You know, bugs were buzzing everywhere,
The children were screaming or hollering or doing whatever. Somebody

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had had bugs in their yogurt and they were upset
about that. You just pick the bugs out and you
can keep going. It's yogurt. I mean, what can you
do bad to yogurt that's not already been done to it?
But anyway, you don't want that. Bugs are a real issue.
They're drawn to dampness. They can be a real bummer
if you bring them into your home. So hang your
laundry on warm, breezy days to speed the drying along

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and reduce insect interest. And also, and of course most importantly,
shake the clothes out well before you bring them into
the house. Find the bugs outside. You know they may
be there, but you can get them off outside. All right,
What about the softness of the clothes coming in off
the line? Aren't my towels going to be crunchy? That
can happen, and we all love that soft, fluffy feel

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when it comes to towels. You know, nobody wants to
be rubbing sandpaper like things all over their face when
they come out of the shower. Tuwbels off the line
really do have a tendency to sometimes feel stiff, and
you can fix that by giving them a good shake
before you hang them, giving them another good shake before
you fold them, and when you're hanging them on the line.
Another thing you can do to help this is to

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increase the space between them so there's more airflow. Don't
just stack them edge to edge to make the most
of your space, give them some room, some elbow room
in between for airflow. That will help. You can add
a half if a cup of white vinegar to the
rint cycle in your washer. That's going to naturally soften
the fabric without leaving a scent. So that's a way
to go. And if you really want that extra fluff,

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you know that extra softness, toss them in the dryer
for maybe five minutes or so on nowhere low heat.
When you bring them in off the line, that will
fluff them up and you'll be perfectly pleased with the
process and you won't have used tons of energy with
the dryer. Okay, that's dealing with some of the main
obstacles out there. Let's talk gear and then we'll wrap
this up. And when it comes to gear, you got

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to start with the right clothes line. This is going
to make all the difference when it comes to durability
and ease of use. So look for a UV resistant,
low stretch line because you want to avoid sagging over time.
A great option is PBC coded galvanized steel wire. It's
going to resist rust, it's going to hold up to
the sun and the rain and daily use. It's not
going to sag. Shoot for a line that's probably about

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an eighth inch in diameter, thick enough to support wet
towels without digging into your laundry. If you have great,
big expanses between the poles, if the line is covering
a pretty big area, you're probably gonna need to go to,
you know, a thicker gauge diameter line in order to
span that distance. But for a typical span, an eighth

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inch diameter line is going to be great. Don't go
with those really cheap, you know, the plastic close lines.
They're gonna sag in a heartbeat. So go to the
good stuff. Drop the money for the good stuff. It's
not that expensive and it's going to pay off down
the road. Also, get good clothes pins for long lasting performance.
Look for heavy duty wooden clothes pins, you know, made

(51:34):
from hardwoods like birch, like maple. If you want the
most durable option, you know you really want to go
a whole hog here, go with stainless steel clothes pins.
They're resistant to rust, to weather, they're not going to break,
they're not gonna crack. They're especially good at holding heavier
items like towels or blankets on the line. If you
do go with the stainless steel ones, look for pins

(51:57):
with a wide grip and smooth edges so you avoid
snagging delicate fabrics. Another thing, be sure to pick up
a clothespin, bag or bucket to keep everything handy. Just
don't leave it outside overnight. You know, pins can mild
you a rust over time if they're exposed to do
a rain. And the bag itself, you know, this is
the biggest part of all of why you don't leave
this out outside overnight. The bag itself becomes this inviting home,

(52:22):
you know, this beacon for all kinds of creepy crawley
bugs that love damp, dark places. You know, the last
thing I want to do is to be reaching my
hand into that kind of spot. You know, it's like
Indiana Jones or something like that. I don't want to
do that when I'm hanging clothes on the line. Don't
leave the little bag outside overnight, all right. Last couple
of things, A couple of tips that people sometimes forget about.

(52:44):
First off, check your sprinkler schedule, and don't overlap it
with putting clothes on the line. You know, there's nothing
worse than waking up to a freshly soaked line full
of clean clothes, you know, because the sprinkler's kicked on
at six am and you forgot to take them off
the line last night. So keep that all in mind.
Remember your sprinklers and work around them. These things can

(53:06):
work in tandem, but they don't work well together. So
don't leave clothes on the lines if you've got sprinklers going. Also,
if you've got pets, keep that in mind. I know
my dog Fern would really really rereak some havoc if
I had a bunch of clothes on the line that
she could reach and she was not being supervised. So
you know your pets, just keep them in mind. Pets

(53:29):
and clothes on the line can coexist, but they can
also you know, pets can really reak some havoc, so
keep that in mind. Last thing I want to say
before we wrap it up for the week is don't
feel like you need to make some kind of major
lifestyle change overnight when it comes to clothes on the line.
You know, start with one load you know, maybe just
some towels or some betting. Try it once, see how

(53:50):
it feels. It's not going to be right for everybody.
It's not the answer for everybody, but you might just
enjoy the rhythm of it, you know, kind of slows
things down in a good way, speeds things up in another.
You can get a lot more on the line. Then
you can cram into your dryer. The clothes smell fresher,
your dryer gets that break. It's gonna last a little longer.
Power bill maybe goes down a little bit, house stays

(54:11):
a little cooler. You gueld be outside a little more
in these wonderful, wonderful ninety plus degree days. Who wouldn't
want more of that? Anyway? Think about it. Let me
know your experiences. I'd love to hear from you. Radio
atrepco Light dot com is the easiest way to get
in touch with me and send me your thoughts about
anything that I covered in the show this week. All right,

(54:33):
that's gonna do it. Thanks for spending some time with
us on Home in Progress. If your project's halfway done,
you know your groage, it's still a mess. It's calling
your name, but you haven't gotten to it yet. Maybe
the laundry is still out on the line. You just
remembered you left it out on the line overnight and
I just reminded you. And you're wondering about the sprinkler
schedule and if it's soaking wet. If that's you, it's okay,

(54:53):
it's okay, it's okay. We're not gonna yell at you.
Remember that's how the show works. We're all a work
in progress. Our homes are all home progress. You're in
good company. If you enjoyed the episode this week, be
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