June 13, 2024 • 27 mins
ROCK955 Hosts Angi Taylor, Klinger, Marris, Maria Palmer, and big boss man James each pick the best song from 1997, talk about how sexy Daddy Ben Franklin is, edging, and more.
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It's the top five on Rock ninetyfive to five. All right, welcome
to Rock ninety five. Five's topfive. Let's do ninety seven. That's
right, ninety seven. My nameis James. Don't worry about that.
I'm in for Walts, who's outbeing a rock star. Literally, people
are paying him and Chris and theband like thousands of dollars to like go
play music in front of thousands thecenter of racing Daytona International Speedway. Yeah.
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Pretty cool. And we got tosee him, so we know that
performance is worth it. House ofBlues. He does this thing with keyboard.
Word he did just on keyboard,doesn't change the sounds cool. You
look at him differently, now,don't you. Yes, rock star,
you tip it the right way changeswhen you see I was telling him,
when you see somebody doing what they'rereally really good at, it's kind of
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like a turner. I'm like,Oh, I didn't know you had to
like that, Walter. You hadthis little groupie outfit on. I made
my own very own fangirl T shirtthat said stab me Waltz. Very interesting.
Yeah, say that one more time, stab me Waltz. Thank you.
It went really well with his wifeI told him he needs to sell
those shirts and like a stab MeChristopher, like like you know, like
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a friendship bracelets, but for theband, like every guy gets their own
stab me. Sure everyone gets stabbed. Hello. I like it. Well,
we're doing nineteen ninety seven today,so we're gonna do just not any
particular order. We're just gonna goaround. Obviously, we're gonna pick our
favorite song from that year and telleveryone why that's the one that you wanted
to go with. I'd also liketo know kind of where you were at
that time in nineteenninety seven, SoMaris, I'm gonna start with you.
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Oh wow, was the ripe ageof eleven And sadly I cannot say that
I heard this song in nineteen ninetyseven. I just wasn't there in my
rock face yet. That's fine,But when I did find it, it
was glorious. It was a momentand it just it hits you. You've
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got this heavy guitar riff in thebeginning, then the orchestra comes in and
it just it just sucks you in. And the lyrics are not very in
depth, but it's just beautiful.The verve I'm talking about live Yeah,
that's the one. And it wasone of those things where I forgot about
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the song for a second. Rightthen I saw a band called Cavo do
a cover of it and they hadthe orchestra track in the background during sound
check, and I was like,holy shit, this is amazing. And
then they came out and it wasbeautiful, and I was just stuck on
a kick. And you know,you look into the song and it's sexier
than you. When you're an adult, you didn't know like how raunchy it
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was until you grow up and you'relike, oh, like you're like a
kid, and it was like morewine. It's like, oh, he
likes to drink more skin though,what the fuck is that about? But
it's just like it just grabs youin that kind of way, and it
just every time I hear it,stop what I'm doing and just vibe for
a little bit. It's just Chef'sKiss is beautiful. That's an awesome song.
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Yeah, that's an awesome record.And I have to say Ed Qualtick
might be one of the most underratedvocalists in rockets. He is he's a
little hontery. It's all rock starsare, but he's he's more than them.
Yes, yes, but that thatvocal and he talked about desperate.
It's just it's fantastic. Does heall have a rat tail? No,
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he's full shaved now, thank god. And he's pretty much number one.
He's the only remaining member, originalmember of Live and he owns the band.
Now, Oh wow, it's justhim, so yeah, I don't
know musician, I am Live comingto It's kind of like Stephen Jickens from
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It's just him and he just hiresother people. But he just didn't get
along with everyone all that. Well, that's a spectacular song. Speaking of
rat tails, Clinger, I have, I have photographic evidence of fantastic rat
tail on you. I know it'shard to believe. I know, it's
so hard to believe. Partied inthe back. And you know what's funny
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is when I used to grow myhair in the back, it gets curly.
That's hard. Yeah, you couldlook like Benjamin Franklin. I have
had the conversation. That's a reallynice complimation. Yeah, founding father kind
of stuff. Imagine imagine like rockmetal bend frank because I want Ben Franklin's
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look. Ben Franklin Fox totally kindof the gut back and on the Liberty
belt. That's everywhere. He's great. That's why it's cracked. Yeah,
he cracked on the liberty bell.And that's why it's cracked that we're going
to you now because you finally unearthedwhy the liberty bell is crashed idea until
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today. So damn historian. It'sa scholar. Yes you are. Maria
Palmer nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninetyWhere were you? What a year?
You know? I experienced so much, mostly ABC's and phonics. I was
three years old, so great time. Much like Marris obviously did not discover
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this song until later. Sure minewould be Your Woman by White Down.
I will love interesting great records.Okay, I don't know it. I'm
not gonna lie. I've never heardof it. I don't know what.
I can't I'm gonna download it?What what are we going to have a
jam session later? Oh? Ourjam sessions get a little too racy and
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the world should be so lucky.Walk us through white Town. Okay,
so it's oh, I can't evenbe mad because yeah, so Whitetown,
Ohio, Maryland. No answer truly. So, uh, he's just this
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one guy. He's a producer,and it's this song. It's sampling My
Woman by Lou whose last name isescaping me currently because I'm not supposed to
be that same No, probably notconfidence. I don't want to contradict this.
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I kind of want this universe toex white. I got your woman,
and I got your woman, gotyour woman. He doesn't name any
names. It's sampling. It's ait's a just a fucking great track.
And he was talking about the inspirationbehind the song and how he wanted to
write it from the perspective of multiplepeople because it's a dude singing it,
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and the songs like I will Neverbe Your Woman, and he's like,
and that can be about like awoman who for instance, has been dating
like this like high out Marxist dude, and then like he treats are like
ship and so like the hypocrisy iscalled out in that way because I can
also be sung by a dude who'sin love with a lesbian or the reverse,
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like a woman that's in love withlike a gay dude, and just
any version of like lesbian and lesbian, well but another lesbian, so that
would be right, James. Ialways black out when I hear lesbian.
Sorry you should you should keep youreyes open. Coming from my wife,
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I mean yeah, And anyway,I grew up amongst the frat bro prep
school douchebags and had a broken upwith a number of them. So it's
just like one of those songs thatreally hits home for me. I love
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it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna listen to it later.
You're gonna like it's got such afucking good break down to the production on
it is so top notch. Lovethat. Oh, it's so fucking good.
And that's why we're doing this right, because like music hits us subjectively,
we don't no one know. Andby the way, especially these days,
music is happening to people at differenttimes in their lives and you just
never know when you're going to findsomething that hits and obviously perfect example,
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you were three, and it's apretty you know, pretty serious subject.
So but I knew these Marxists can'tdeal with, right. I will say
that when we gathered a month ago, what was the year we did?
Eighty seven? What eighty seven?When you brought up in Excess? I
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have been re same listening to inExcess on the regular since that, and
I love them when they were hittingand just so yeah, it's nice to
dive back into something they forgot.Oh yeah, that God damn in Excess
was so good. They were sucha great band. And Michael Hutchin's voice
and all those fast songs, SuicideBlonde, all those songs inside. Oh
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yeah, Clinger, why don't youcontinue? Then you're all fired? Well
let's go. I'm fired up forJasus. In nineteen eighty nine, this
band drops a self titled Jesus Jonesfrom then you were talking about. In
nineteen ninety two, they dropped asecond record called Ignition. Oh. In
nineteen ninety four, they dropped arecord called Smash, and Smash was a
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record for this band. At thetime, they didn't know it, but
it turns out they hit this bitchout of the park. Was smashed.
So when they gathered a couple ofyears later to make another record, which
they recorded Smash with no money,yep. And of course, isn't that
the biggest, biggest record they comeout with when they're on the cheap and
they don't have a budget. Well, then they smashed it out of the
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park and they had all the moneyto make a record called Ixnay on the
Ombre. Yes, we're talking aboutthe offspring. How did I not remember
that? Is I remember that albumXnay on the Ombre. Yeah, and
what a great record that was.But how tough is it when a band
has to follow up a record likeSmash and everybody's focused on them, the
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spotlights are on them, and they'relike, all right, well, there's
no pressure there. And they cameout with a song called gone Away on
this road, You're going gone Away, I'm going gone away. So yes,
And I was in Daytona Beach,Florida, the beautiful metropolis of Daytona
Beach, second year into my firstfull time job. You're rocking the Hog.
No, it was the Crow.It was a crow. Yeah,
privately owned husband and wife all themoney and uh club radio station. Yeah,
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crow, and they they own astation called the Hog and they just
kind of built this cool cluster ofstations which named after animals. McDonald.
We can't throw stones around this radiostation. We have atarue. So when
they dropped Dick's Day on the Ombre, that was not the very first single.
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They came that with gone Away atthe second signal and single. And
it turns out that that was gonnabe That was ultimately their first number one
song, which is crazy to thinkabout when you when you go back through
Smash and all those singles, noneof those ever charted like this one day.
I think, like I remember,because I was in I had just
started in radio Top forty radio andOffspring at that time was Top forty as
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well. So I think maybe likethe Help, that it was a multi
format single that went kind of everywhere. It was a rock single, it
was an alt single, it wasa top forty single, it was played
everywhere, So that might have somethingto do with it. Maybe in a
day and age where you know,record sales ultimately made all these bands,
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a lot of them, that solda shitload of them, so fucking rich,
right, and Nickelback is cut fromthat same cloth because records just don't
get sold like they did. Yeah. I did see Taylor Swift. Does
she have like one point three millionon first release a couple of weeks ago
and count those? When you compareto what those records in the nineties were
selling, it's kind of that same, yeah, because you've got streams and
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you got like there there's so manydifferent platforms and places to hear music now.
So when you look at like physicalsales of things, it doesn't seem
as huge. But when you thinkabout streams and views and blah, like,
I think it all translates the same. But it's like, how are
they monetizing it the same? Sobut yeah, and the Offspring had the
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most successful independently released album their firstone. They did it all themselves.
They're great. I mean, Noodlesand Dexters are geniuses. I mean they
really are. Did you ever thinkyou would say a guy named Noodles was
a genius? But to also kindof to fortify or paint this picture.
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When they were recording Smash, whichthey had no budget, they were in
Long Beach and they would try toget discount of recording studio time when during
the off hours, and they wentin there and again just crushed it with
that record. So they had thebudget and now they've they've had their own
studio for the rest of those records. Yeah, And I love I Love
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Gone Away because it's a timestamp,like all these songs for us as to
exactly where we are and it's funto go back and they're still thriving as
a band. And I think aboutthat song, and I think about beaches,
and it's interesting they a beach,right, it feels like a beach,
like in a summer sound. WhyNo, certain songs sound like summer,
like red hot chili peppers, soundslike California, California thing down.
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Yeah, certain songs just sound likea top down song or a sitting on
the beach song, or you know, patio drink song, like I get
that feeling. Yeah for sure.Well that's a great one, Angie Taylor,
Yes, all right, nineteen ninetyseven. What was nineteen ninety seven
for you? Nineteen ninety seven?Well, I started in radio in nineteen
Well, I started in morning radioin nineteen ninety six, so I was
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doing pop radio. I was verytired of boy bands and things like that.
So that's when I was discovering,like a lot of the rock songs.
I became such an anglifile. Wereyou dating boy bands at the time?
That was later the entire band thatwas ninety nine one particular one like
the biggest one, but that andthen I was like searching, you know,
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for different kind of music because youknow, top forty whatever. So
I became a bit of an anglophilewhen it came to music. I was
really into like British bands and allthat, so much so that I started
subscribing to a magazine I don't evenknow if it's in Prant anywhere called Q
Magazine, which was British rock stuff. And every time they would send a
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magazine to the house, there wasa CD included, and so I would
discover a lot of bad like Itold my friends, like I discovered Coldplay.
I discovered this band because I heardlike the British pressed versions before they
kind of broke in the US.So the band that I discovered through that
process that I am still obsessed withto this day. One of my favorites
is Radiohead. Very nice, andI even bought Radiohead art based on like
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the kid A album and the Amnesiacalbum. I wish I still had it.
It's probably a good will somewhere.But Paranoid Android from Okay Computer that
song is the musical equivalent of edgingsexual edging because and I'll tell you why,
because it takes you on such aroller pressure, you know, like
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if you go to an ed Mshow or something and you're waiting for the
drop, yes, so you cango crazy. That whole song is like
up and down and you're like,oh, they're gonna start jamming out right
now, and then it's like,nope, we're gonna take you back down
here. And then they go boomand you're like, oh, nope,
we're gonna take you back down.And then finally the guitars rip on that
song like crazy explosion. We gotthere. And I mean people are very,
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uh, radio Heads, very polarizingeither you love or hate. And
I know, James, you're nota huge fan, but because they're kind
of a wrong opinion there. Sometimesthey're very bitchy. Sometimes they're very Why
I want to align myself with that. I do appreciate what they do and
they are they're such a finesse band. Yeah, I mean, I feel
like you would kind of equate themto like to like Tool because they're not
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dropping records all the time, andwhen they're in the lab, they're in
the lab. Yeah, I justthink Tom York is a whiny bitch sometimes
I do, like yeah, butI've been to a couple of Radiohead shows
and there's been ones that are justbangers. And then they played Lalla a
few years ago and I drugged myhusband who's not a fan, and I'm
like, you're gonna love it,and you drugged your husband. He didn't
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know is Molly Water. So Idrug him to this show and it happened
to be one of those nights wheretom Yorke was in his fields, you
know, like, and I waslike, oh right, and I even
left their show. I'm like,this sucks, but I love that song.
It's all about, you know,like cutting off from the world and
being you know, like thinking likethe world is crazy. I mean there's
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a repetitive line that's saying, pleasestop the noise and like how you know
they like sometimes you're just not happywith the way things are. So I
sort of love it, you know. I love that song and it just
radioheads Still to this day, kiddA is my favorite album. It's like
a good album to get high to. It's good. That's what I'm doing
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wrong because I've gone back and thisis a band I really want to love,
because I respect a lot of peoplewho love this band. Okay,
kid the kid A album, haven'tI don't think I've done that one the
kid A album. The very firsttrack is called everything in Its Right Place.
That is a song to smoke Weedtwo, don't because that's a roller
coaster of emotions that you'll never comeback. I know, like, it's
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not a Molly band, it's asmoke weed band. And dissect lyrics because
they're political. They're like, Ican't stand on the climate in the pocket.
We'll see. I didn't find weeduntil when I met you. You're
welcome. So I'm new to theweed thing, and so I didn't when
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I tried Radiohead the first few times, I did it sober and obviously that
Okay, Computer is a great album. It's the one that really broke them.
But I love kid A. It'smy favorite. So I suggest kidd
a nice everything, and it's rightplace. First tracks, light a joint
boom. By the end of it, you're like, yeah, well music
is music. Talk how about this, Sir James nineteen ninety seven. Yes,
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let's go, let's go, let'stalk about feelings, all right.
There was a girl, but beforewe get to her, Orlando, Florida.
Yikes, it's the first place thatglobal warming was actually identified. I
can already see her right here.Globally is everywhere. I use so much
gold bond medicated powder. I waslike, I was fucking donuts every week.
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It was like, what is thisguy doing? That's a visual sweaty
and safy Florida. So it wasa rough summer. And then I met
a girl in college. Yeah,and she has that name Gilda. Jill.
It's a rough name. What Jila? Where's Jill? Could you just
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call her Jill? Yeah? Ihad I had nicknames. Thank god,
Gilda. What happened when she wasnick on Wednesday? So she was Nick
Roguin. Her name was Jilda PerezCasar was her full name? Works together,
it goes through, I have alittle more. Gilda on its own
is too close to Matilda, right, like it's a little to ad.
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No, it's sexy now that Iknow she's And also the full name,
yeah, yeah, I shouldn't abbreviated. If you're going to spend a sweaty
summer with anybody, it needs tobe Jilda, agreed, Gilda. She
had a boyfriend and her and herboyfriend was staring her boyfriend. Wait,
you were not the boyfriend. Ithought it was you. Hold on,
okay, sorry, eventually got gotoo far. She had a boyfriend,
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but that boyfriend was studying abroad,which broad turns out he was studying.
He certainly was studying. I alwaysalways one uping Mars yesterday. I'm so
sorry. Angie had the worst upbringing, Angie, you get it cool whatever
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her on top, damn Cherry onthere. So while he was gone,
I was keeping an eye on her, and I was just I was well,
nothing was nothing was happening, butI wanted it to and so it
was. It was hell. Shewas interested until she saw my interest in
the powder. Nevertheless, during thatperiod of time, and an album was
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released actually in October of the yearprior, but the song really wasn't released
to radio, which is where Igot all of my I didn't. I
didn't. I didn't have like amale to order thing or which I do
miss mail to order. When yousaid you could host the male hostage my
dad hostage, you're talking about ColumbiaHouse. I know, I'm down.
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I discovered music on the radio,right. I don't know just how I
found music and radio station in Orlando, Florida that this Gentleman is on,
UH, which is at the timethey called it a real rock w j
R one one point one UH.And I heard this song on that station
and I just got obsessed with it. I bought the album. Uh and
this is Matchbox twenty three am.That is the most middle aged boss.
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Of course you could have ever saidthat Dad rock Rob Thomas, I love
Rob Thomas, are not a bother. I don't think he gets a claim
like that, right, check yoursketchers off and listen to some Really I
want to like Radiohead, but Ilove Matchbox twenty. That's ok. That's
okad No, Rob Thomas, Ithink is amazing. I do from Orlando,
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Florida. That band, So Ididn't know that. Yeah it does.
The hair was bad then it stillis now for Rob. But it
was just one of those songs thatkind of I connected with. It was
like, by the way, ithad nothing to do with what actually the
songs about, which is about amom with cancer? Is that wait a
minute, three am from Matchbox twentyis about his mother with cancer? I
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did not know, you know whatI'm saying, like, but music hits
us differently, right, And wow, I was thinking, so you were
just rocking out to that? Wasit rocking out? Because it's not really
a rock song, not miss Jilled, you know? Yeah? Maybe I
don't know. I feel some time. Uh So anyway, the big finish
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on that is his. He turnedout to be not a good guy.
Uh and uh the child's man eventuallytalking about eventually eventually uh old A Prescosaar
and I got together and we wereWe dated a very long time. How
long years? Years? Years?Didn't you put do you know how long?
There's a long time ago and youdon't put a ring on it,
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just taking sure because you're in collegethat she was a year older and she
graduated. It took a while forus to actually get together. So and
I actually remember seeing Titanic in thetheater and crying like a baby because I
thought about her. That's not whyI cried. I cried about the old
people that were dying in the bedtogether. You cried about Jilda. I
don't know why I thought I wasthat's the one that got away. Here.
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If we could have gone down andthe ship together, I would die.
I'll be here, Jack, yoube my rose. We're such assholes
for tearing up. Wait way toomuch, Ammo, James, way too
much play. Usually Walt takes itin the face. It's going to be
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me today, so way better thanthe donuts I've been fucking. It was
a little Chalky Well takes it inthe face. No, I did say
that, actually that for him.Let's not take this out of context.
You just softball me for everything.I can't help bad. Why is he
taking the face? No, youknow, like you know, take the
jabs from you people. Oh okay, what do you mean by you people?
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Well, now you say it likethat, you people, I'm going
to bring us back. I'm gonnahave to bring us back to you.
Particular record. You know, thatwas their first record too, it was,
and so like I feel like ourrecords made like that anymore, like
that whole slew of the mid tolate nineties, these first records from these
bands. You look back and you'relike, holy shit. I mean,
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like, and they formed twenty fifteen, so they had early. I mean
they only got they only were workingtogether for like a year, and then
they recorded the album and then nineteenninety five. I'm sorry, Yeah,
what is the twenty five? Iwas on most just to let that fly
because I knew it was a ninesomewhere, but which one? Okay it
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was. It was a quick turnaroundto get that level of success, but
that it was just one of thoseyou know songs that in a certain time
in your life, formative time whenyou're in college and you're trying to figure
out what the heck you're supposed tobe, and I just yeah, I
just liked it. Whatever, goodstuff. Where's Jilda? Now? I
have no idea where is she?Can we find her? Put it down,
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Mars. It's an easy snoop rightthere. It's true looking for like
Molly Smith, don't why do Italk? Nothing ever? Good happens when
I talk. That's not true.Entertaining things happen. You guys are having
a good time. You are thebest talker because you hired all of us
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for this station, and so Ibrought you in take you out. You
have to get it. I reallycan't. I have absolutely no responsibility in
this company. They've stripped all ofit. Literally, make no decisions.
But the best decision was doing thispodcast because I think this is fun.
I love when you come in anddo stuff on the show, when you
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tell us about booty holes, becauseyou came in and talked about your baby
boys. He talks about your yourbaby talking adults. Fuck no. I
went on your highly rated morning showto discuss the importance of checking your colon
for cancer. Yes, I diddo that. We all want our men
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to make sure they check their bootyholes, all right, and a mom
of boys because you don't. IfI were with you, I'd be like,
check your bawl. Clear, butlike everybody else, check your booty
holes. No motherly love for you. Clear, That's all right. He
doesn't want to hit it. Hedoesn't. Definitely, That's what I'm used
to. Okay, you can unpackthat. Just baby talk being adults.
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No, I never baby talk,but sometimes I get tender. What do
you mean, Mariss? Have youever seen a dog you didn't baby talk
to? Oh my god, thatcute dog. That's different. That's different
animals for like, how is thatdifferent? Because it's dogs? Dogs?
Baby dog? Not when it comesto your animal, dog like a baby.
So Matchbox twenty that was my picturenineteen ninety seven. Until next time.
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Thank you for listening. I'm sosorry they found this podcast. You're
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It's the top five on Rock ninetyfive to five. All right, welcome
to Rock ninety five. Five's topfive. Let's do ninety seven. That's
right, ninety seven. My nameis James. Don't worry about that.
I'm in for Walts, who's outbeing a rock star. Literally, people
are paying him and Chris and theband like thousands of dollars to like go
play music in front of thousands thecenter of racing Daytona International Speedway. Yeah.
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Pretty cool. And we got tosee him, so we know that
performance is worth it. House ofBlues. He does this thing with keyboard.
Word he did just on keyboard,doesn't change the sounds cool. You
look at him differently, now,don't you. Yes, rock star,
you tip it the right way changeswhen you see I was telling him,
when you see somebody doing what they'rereally really good at, it's kind of
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like a turner. I'm like,Oh, I didn't know you had to
like that, Walter. You hadthis little groupie outfit on. I made
my own very own fangirl T shirtthat said stab me Waltz. Very interesting.
Yeah, say that one more time, stab me Waltz. Thank you.
It went really well with his wifeI told him he needs to sell
those shirts and like a stab MeChristopher, like like you know, like
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a friendship bracelets, but for theband, like every guy gets their own
stab me. Sure everyone gets stabbed. Hello. I like it. Well,
we're doing nineteen ninety seven today,so we're gonna do just not any
particular order. We're just gonna goaround. Obviously, we're gonna pick our
favorite song from that year and telleveryone why that's the one that you wanted
to go with. I'd also liketo know kind of where you were at
that time in nineteenninety seven, SoMaris, I'm gonna start with you.
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Oh wow, was the ripe ageof eleven And sadly I cannot say that
I heard this song in nineteen ninetyseven. I just wasn't there in my
rock face yet. That's fine,But when I did find it, it
was glorious. It was a momentand it just it hits you. You've
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got this heavy guitar riff in thebeginning, then the orchestra comes in and
it just it just sucks you in. And the lyrics are not very in
depth, but it's just beautiful.The verve I'm talking about live Yeah,
that's the one. And it wasone of those things where I forgot about
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the song for a second. Rightthen I saw a band called Cavo do
a cover of it and they hadthe orchestra track in the background during sound
check, and I was like,holy shit, this is amazing. And
then they came out and it wasbeautiful, and I was just stuck on
a kick. And you know,you look into the song and it's sexier
than you. When you're an adult, you didn't know like how raunchy it
(02:46):
was until you grow up and you'relike, oh, like you're like a
kid, and it was like morewine. It's like, oh, he
likes to drink more skin though,what the fuck is that about? But
it's just like it just grabs youin that kind of way, and it
just every time I hear it,stop what I'm doing and just vibe for
a little bit. It's just Chef'sKiss is beautiful. That's an awesome song.
(03:08):
Yeah, that's an awesome record.And I have to say Ed Qualtick
might be one of the most underratedvocalists in rockets. He is he's a
little hontery. It's all rock starsare, but he's he's more than them.
Yes, yes, but that thatvocal and he talked about desperate.
It's just it's fantastic. Does heall have a rat tail? No,
(03:30):
he's full shaved now, thank god. And he's pretty much number one.
He's the only remaining member, originalmember of Live and he owns the band.
Now, Oh wow, it's justhim, so yeah, I don't
know musician, I am Live comingto It's kind of like Stephen Jickens from
(03:52):
It's just him and he just hiresother people. But he just didn't get
along with everyone all that. Well, that's a spectacular song. Speaking of
rat tails, Clinger, I have, I have photographic evidence of fantastic rat
tail on you. I know it'shard to believe. I know, it's
so hard to believe. Partied inthe back. And you know what's funny
(04:14):
is when I used to grow myhair in the back, it gets curly.
That's hard. Yeah, you couldlook like Benjamin Franklin. I have
had the conversation. That's a reallynice complimation. Yeah, founding father kind
of stuff. Imagine imagine like rockmetal bend frank because I want Ben Franklin's
(04:35):
look. Ben Franklin Fox totally kindof the gut back and on the Liberty
belt. That's everywhere. He's great. That's why it's cracked. Yeah,
he cracked on the liberty bell.And that's why it's cracked that we're going
to you now because you finally unearthedwhy the liberty bell is crashed idea until
(04:59):
today. So damn historian. It'sa scholar. Yes you are. Maria
Palmer nineteen ninety seven, nineteen ninetyWhere were you? What a year?
You know? I experienced so much, mostly ABC's and phonics. I was
three years old, so great time. Much like Marris obviously did not discover
(05:20):
this song until later. Sure minewould be Your Woman by White Down.
I will love interesting great records.Okay, I don't know it. I'm
not gonna lie. I've never heardof it. I don't know what.
I can't I'm gonna download it?What what are we going to have a
jam session later? Oh? Ourjam sessions get a little too racy and
(05:43):
the world should be so lucky.Walk us through white Town. Okay,
so it's oh, I can't evenbe mad because yeah, so Whitetown,
Ohio, Maryland. No answer truly. So, uh, he's just this
(06:06):
one guy. He's a producer,and it's this song. It's sampling My
Woman by Lou whose last name isescaping me currently because I'm not supposed to
be that same No, probably notconfidence. I don't want to contradict this.
(06:29):
I kind of want this universe toex white. I got your woman,
and I got your woman, gotyour woman. He doesn't name any
names. It's sampling. It's ait's a just a fucking great track.
And he was talking about the inspirationbehind the song and how he wanted to
write it from the perspective of multiplepeople because it's a dude singing it,
(06:50):
and the songs like I will Neverbe Your Woman, and he's like,
and that can be about like awoman who for instance, has been dating
like this like high out Marxist dude, and then like he treats are like
ship and so like the hypocrisy iscalled out in that way because I can
also be sung by a dude who'sin love with a lesbian or the reverse,
(07:10):
like a woman that's in love withlike a gay dude, and just
any version of like lesbian and lesbian, well but another lesbian, so that
would be right, James. Ialways black out when I hear lesbian.
Sorry you should you should keep youreyes open. Coming from my wife,
(07:34):
I mean yeah, And anyway,I grew up amongst the frat bro prep
school douchebags and had a broken upwith a number of them. So it's
just like one of those songs thatreally hits home for me. I love
(07:54):
it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna listen to it later.
You're gonna like it's got such afucking good break down to the production on
it is so top notch. Lovethat. Oh, it's so fucking good.
And that's why we're doing this right, because like music hits us subjectively,
we don't no one know. Andby the way, especially these days,
music is happening to people at differenttimes in their lives and you just
never know when you're going to findsomething that hits and obviously perfect example,
(08:16):
you were three, and it's apretty you know, pretty serious subject.
So but I knew these Marxists can'tdeal with, right. I will say
that when we gathered a month ago, what was the year we did?
Eighty seven? What eighty seven?When you brought up in Excess? I
(08:37):
have been re same listening to inExcess on the regular since that, and
I love them when they were hittingand just so yeah, it's nice to
dive back into something they forgot.Oh yeah, that God damn in Excess
was so good. They were sucha great band. And Michael Hutchin's voice
and all those fast songs, SuicideBlonde, all those songs inside. Oh
(09:00):
yeah, Clinger, why don't youcontinue? Then you're all fired? Well
let's go. I'm fired up forJasus. In nineteen eighty nine, this
band drops a self titled Jesus Jonesfrom then you were talking about. In
nineteen ninety two, they dropped asecond record called Ignition. Oh. In
nineteen ninety four, they dropped arecord called Smash, and Smash was a
(09:26):
record for this band. At thetime, they didn't know it, but
it turns out they hit this bitchout of the park. Was smashed.
So when they gathered a couple ofyears later to make another record, which
they recorded Smash with no money,yep. And of course, isn't that
the biggest, biggest record they comeout with when they're on the cheap and
they don't have a budget. Well, then they smashed it out of the
(09:46):
park and they had all the moneyto make a record called Ixnay on the
Ombre. Yes, we're talking aboutthe offspring. How did I not remember
that? Is I remember that albumXnay on the Ombre. Yeah, and
what a great record that was.But how tough is it when a band
has to follow up a record likeSmash and everybody's focused on them, the
(10:07):
spotlights are on them, and they'relike, all right, well, there's
no pressure there. And they cameout with a song called gone Away on
this road, You're going gone Away, I'm going gone away. So yes,
And I was in Daytona Beach,Florida, the beautiful metropolis of Daytona
Beach, second year into my firstfull time job. You're rocking the Hog.
No, it was the Crow.It was a crow. Yeah,
privately owned husband and wife all themoney and uh club radio station. Yeah,
(10:35):
crow, and they they own astation called the Hog and they just
kind of built this cool cluster ofstations which named after animals. McDonald.
We can't throw stones around this radiostation. We have atarue. So when
they dropped Dick's Day on the Ombre, that was not the very first single.
(10:56):
They came that with gone Away atthe second signal and single. And
it turns out that that was gonnabe That was ultimately their first number one
song, which is crazy to thinkabout when you when you go back through
Smash and all those singles, noneof those ever charted like this one day.
I think, like I remember,because I was in I had just
started in radio Top forty radio andOffspring at that time was Top forty as
(11:18):
well. So I think maybe likethe Help, that it was a multi
format single that went kind of everywhere. It was a rock single, it
was an alt single, it wasa top forty single, it was played
everywhere, So that might have somethingto do with it. Maybe in a
day and age where you know,record sales ultimately made all these bands,
(11:39):
a lot of them, that solda shitload of them, so fucking rich,
right, and Nickelback is cut fromthat same cloth because records just don't
get sold like they did. Yeah. I did see Taylor Swift. Does
she have like one point three millionon first release a couple of weeks ago
and count those? When you compareto what those records in the nineties were
selling, it's kind of that same, yeah, because you've got streams and
(12:01):
you got like there there's so manydifferent platforms and places to hear music now.
So when you look at like physicalsales of things, it doesn't seem
as huge. But when you thinkabout streams and views and blah, like,
I think it all translates the same. But it's like, how are
they monetizing it the same? Sobut yeah, and the Offspring had the
(12:22):
most successful independently released album their firstone. They did it all themselves.
They're great. I mean, Noodlesand Dexters are geniuses. I mean they
really are. Did you ever thinkyou would say a guy named Noodles was
a genius? But to also kindof to fortify or paint this picture.
(12:43):
When they were recording Smash, whichthey had no budget, they were in
Long Beach and they would try toget discount of recording studio time when during
the off hours, and they wentin there and again just crushed it with
that record. So they had thebudget and now they've they've had their own
studio for the rest of those records. Yeah, And I love I Love
(13:03):
Gone Away because it's a timestamp,like all these songs for us as to
exactly where we are and it's funto go back and they're still thriving as
a band. And I think aboutthat song, and I think about beaches,
and it's interesting they a beach,right, it feels like a beach,
like in a summer sound. WhyNo, certain songs sound like summer,
like red hot chili peppers, soundslike California, California thing down.
(13:24):
Yeah, certain songs just sound likea top down song or a sitting on
the beach song, or you know, patio drink song, like I get
that feeling. Yeah for sure.Well that's a great one, Angie Taylor,
Yes, all right, nineteen ninetyseven. What was nineteen ninety seven
for you? Nineteen ninety seven?Well, I started in radio in nineteen
Well, I started in morning radioin nineteen ninety six, so I was
(13:46):
doing pop radio. I was verytired of boy bands and things like that.
So that's when I was discovering,like a lot of the rock songs.
I became such an anglifile. Wereyou dating boy bands at the time?
That was later the entire band thatwas ninety nine one particular one like
the biggest one, but that andthen I was like searching, you know,
(14:09):
for different kind of music because youknow, top forty whatever. So
I became a bit of an anglophilewhen it came to music. I was
really into like British bands and allthat, so much so that I started
subscribing to a magazine I don't evenknow if it's in Prant anywhere called Q
Magazine, which was British rock stuff. And every time they would send a
(14:30):
magazine to the house, there wasa CD included, and so I would
discover a lot of bad like Itold my friends, like I discovered Coldplay.
I discovered this band because I heardlike the British pressed versions before they
kind of broke in the US.So the band that I discovered through that
process that I am still obsessed withto this day. One of my favorites
is Radiohead. Very nice, andI even bought Radiohead art based on like
(14:54):
the kid A album and the Amnesiacalbum. I wish I still had it.
It's probably a good will somewhere.But Paranoid Android from Okay Computer that
song is the musical equivalent of edgingsexual edging because and I'll tell you why,
because it takes you on such aroller pressure, you know, like
(15:18):
if you go to an ed Mshow or something and you're waiting for the
drop, yes, so you cango crazy. That whole song is like
up and down and you're like,oh, they're gonna start jamming out right
now, and then it's like,nope, we're gonna take you back down
here. And then they go boomand you're like, oh, nope,
we're gonna take you back down.And then finally the guitars rip on that
song like crazy explosion. We gotthere. And I mean people are very,
(15:45):
uh, radio Heads, very polarizingeither you love or hate. And
I know, James, you're nota huge fan, but because they're kind
of a wrong opinion there. Sometimesthey're very bitchy. Sometimes they're very Why
I want to align myself with that. I do appreciate what they do and
they are they're such a finesse band. Yeah, I mean, I feel
like you would kind of equate themto like to like Tool because they're not
(16:11):
dropping records all the time, andwhen they're in the lab, they're in
the lab. Yeah, I justthink Tom York is a whiny bitch sometimes
I do, like yeah, butI've been to a couple of Radiohead shows
and there's been ones that are justbangers. And then they played Lalla a
few years ago and I drugged myhusband who's not a fan, and I'm
like, you're gonna love it,and you drugged your husband. He didn't
(16:33):
know is Molly Water. So Idrug him to this show and it happened
to be one of those nights wheretom Yorke was in his fields, you
know, like, and I waslike, oh right, and I even
left their show. I'm like,this sucks, but I love that song.
It's all about, you know,like cutting off from the world and
being you know, like thinking likethe world is crazy. I mean there's
(16:55):
a repetitive line that's saying, pleasestop the noise and like how you know
they like sometimes you're just not happywith the way things are. So I
sort of love it, you know. I love that song and it just
radioheads Still to this day, kiddA is my favorite album. It's like
a good album to get high to. It's good. That's what I'm doing
(17:17):
wrong because I've gone back and thisis a band I really want to love,
because I respect a lot of peoplewho love this band. Okay,
kid the kid A album, haven'tI don't think I've done that one the
kid A album. The very firsttrack is called everything in Its Right Place.
That is a song to smoke Weedtwo, don't because that's a roller
coaster of emotions that you'll never comeback. I know, like, it's
(17:41):
not a Molly band, it's asmoke weed band. And dissect lyrics because
they're political. They're like, Ican't stand on the climate in the pocket.
We'll see. I didn't find weeduntil when I met you. You're
welcome. So I'm new to theweed thing, and so I didn't when
(18:02):
I tried Radiohead the first few times, I did it sober and obviously that
Okay, Computer is a great album. It's the one that really broke them.
But I love kid A. It'smy favorite. So I suggest kidd
a nice everything, and it's rightplace. First tracks, light a joint
boom. By the end of it, you're like, yeah, well music
is music. Talk how about this, Sir James nineteen ninety seven. Yes,
(18:29):
let's go, let's go, let'stalk about feelings, all right.
There was a girl, but beforewe get to her, Orlando, Florida.
Yikes, it's the first place thatglobal warming was actually identified. I
can already see her right here.Globally is everywhere. I use so much
gold bond medicated powder. I waslike, I was fucking donuts every week.
(18:52):
It was like, what is thisguy doing? That's a visual sweaty
and safy Florida. So it wasa rough summer. And then I met
a girl in college. Yeah,and she has that name Gilda. Jill.
It's a rough name. What Jila? Where's Jill? Could you just
(19:18):
call her Jill? Yeah? Ihad I had nicknames. Thank god,
Gilda. What happened when she wasnick on Wednesday? So she was Nick
Roguin. Her name was Jilda PerezCasar was her full name? Works together,
it goes through, I have alittle more. Gilda on its own
is too close to Matilda, right, like it's a little to ad.
(19:40):
No, it's sexy now that Iknow she's And also the full name,
yeah, yeah, I shouldn't abbreviated. If you're going to spend a sweaty
summer with anybody, it needs tobe Jilda, agreed, Gilda. She
had a boyfriend and her and herboyfriend was staring her boyfriend. Wait,
you were not the boyfriend. Ithought it was you. Hold on,
okay, sorry, eventually got gotoo far. She had a boyfriend,
(20:03):
but that boyfriend was studying abroad,which broad turns out he was studying.
He certainly was studying. I alwaysalways one uping Mars yesterday. I'm so
sorry. Angie had the worst upbringing, Angie, you get it cool whatever
(20:29):
her on top, damn Cherry onthere. So while he was gone,
I was keeping an eye on her, and I was just I was well,
nothing was nothing was happening, butI wanted it to and so it
was. It was hell. Shewas interested until she saw my interest in
the powder. Nevertheless, during thatperiod of time, and an album was
(20:53):
released actually in October of the yearprior, but the song really wasn't released
to radio, which is where Igot all of my I didn't. I
didn't. I didn't have like amale to order thing or which I do
miss mail to order. When yousaid you could host the male hostage my
dad hostage, you're talking about ColumbiaHouse. I know, I'm down.
(21:18):
I discovered music on the radio,right. I don't know just how I
found music and radio station in Orlando, Florida that this Gentleman is on,
UH, which is at the timethey called it a real rock w j
R one one point one UH.And I heard this song on that station
and I just got obsessed with it. I bought the album. Uh and
this is Matchbox twenty three am.That is the most middle aged boss.
(21:44):
Of course you could have ever saidthat Dad rock Rob Thomas, I love
Rob Thomas, are not a bother. I don't think he gets a claim
like that, right, check yoursketchers off and listen to some Really I
want to like Radiohead, but Ilove Matchbox twenty. That's ok. That's
okad No, Rob Thomas, Ithink is amazing. I do from Orlando,
(22:06):
Florida. That band, So Ididn't know that. Yeah it does.
The hair was bad then it stillis now for Rob. But it
was just one of those songs thatkind of I connected with. It was
like, by the way, ithad nothing to do with what actually the
songs about, which is about amom with cancer? Is that wait a
minute, three am from Matchbox twentyis about his mother with cancer? I
(22:27):
did not know, you know whatI'm saying, like, but music hits
us differently, right, And wow, I was thinking, so you were
just rocking out to that? Wasit rocking out? Because it's not really
a rock song, not miss Jilled, you know? Yeah? Maybe I
don't know. I feel some time. Uh So anyway, the big finish
(22:49):
on that is his. He turnedout to be not a good guy.
Uh and uh the child's man eventuallytalking about eventually eventually uh old A Prescosaar
and I got together and we wereWe dated a very long time. How
long years? Years? Years?Didn't you put do you know how long?
There's a long time ago and youdon't put a ring on it,
(23:11):
just taking sure because you're in collegethat she was a year older and she
graduated. It took a while forus to actually get together. So and
I actually remember seeing Titanic in thetheater and crying like a baby because I
thought about her. That's not whyI cried. I cried about the old
people that were dying in the bedtogether. You cried about Jilda. I
don't know why I thought I wasthat's the one that got away. Here.
(23:33):
If we could have gone down andthe ship together, I would die.
I'll be here, Jack, yoube my rose. We're such assholes
for tearing up. Wait way toomuch, Ammo, James, way too
much play. Usually Walt takes itin the face. It's going to be
(23:59):
me today, so way better thanthe donuts I've been fucking. It was
a little Chalky Well takes it inthe face. No, I did say
that, actually that for him.Let's not take this out of context.
You just softball me for everything.I can't help bad. Why is he
taking the face? No, youknow, like you know, take the
jabs from you people. Oh okay, what do you mean by you people?
(24:21):
Well, now you say it likethat, you people, I'm going
to bring us back. I'm gonnahave to bring us back to you.
Particular record. You know, thatwas their first record too, it was,
and so like I feel like ourrecords made like that anymore, like
that whole slew of the mid tolate nineties, these first records from these
bands. You look back and you'relike, holy shit. I mean,
(24:44):
like, and they formed twenty fifteen, so they had early. I mean
they only got they only were workingtogether for like a year, and then
they recorded the album and then nineteenninety five. I'm sorry, Yeah,
what is the twenty five? Iwas on most just to let that fly
because I knew it was a ninesomewhere, but which one? Okay it
(25:06):
was. It was a quick turnaroundto get that level of success, but
that it was just one of thoseyou know songs that in a certain time
in your life, formative time whenyou're in college and you're trying to figure
out what the heck you're supposed tobe, and I just yeah, I
just liked it. Whatever, goodstuff. Where's Jilda? Now? I
have no idea where is she?Can we find her? Put it down,
(25:29):
Mars. It's an easy snoop rightthere. It's true looking for like
Molly Smith, don't why do Italk? Nothing ever? Good happens when
I talk. That's not true.Entertaining things happen. You guys are having
a good time. You are thebest talker because you hired all of us
(25:53):
for this station, and so Ibrought you in take you out. You
have to get it. I reallycan't. I have absolutely no responsibility in
this company. They've stripped all ofit. Literally, make no decisions.
But the best decision was doing thispodcast because I think this is fun.
I love when you come in anddo stuff on the show, when you
(26:15):
tell us about booty holes, becauseyou came in and talked about your baby
boys. He talks about your yourbaby talking adults. Fuck no. I
went on your highly rated morning showto discuss the importance of checking your colon
for cancer. Yes, I diddo that. We all want our men
(26:37):
to make sure they check their bootyholes, all right, and a mom
of boys because you don't. IfI were with you, I'd be like,
check your bawl. Clear, butlike everybody else, check your booty
holes. No motherly love for you. Clear, That's all right. He
doesn't want to hit it. Hedoesn't. Definitely, That's what I'm used
to. Okay, you can unpackthat. Just baby talk being adults.
(27:00):
No, I never baby talk,but sometimes I get tender. What do
you mean, Mariss? Have youever seen a dog you didn't baby talk
to? Oh my god, thatcute dog. That's different. That's different
animals for like, how is thatdifferent? Because it's dogs? Dogs?
Baby dog? Not when it comesto your animal, dog like a baby.
So Matchbox twenty that was my picturenineteen ninety seven. Until next time.
(27:23):
Thank you for listening. I'm sosorry they found this podcast. You're
the best part of the podcast.Thank you. I'm never returning. I
love you ll dog next podcast,Walt will return. Vote now on Instagram
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