February 18, 2025 • 23 mins
In this episode I basically talk about Cinderella albums Night Songs and Long Cold Winter and compare them side by side. I also have a special guest to help me out with this episode. He is the lead singer of That Arena Rock Show T Bone.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everybody? This is Sea Bass for I'm rocking
with Sea Bass and I am back with another good episode.
As last week, I told you I was gonna do
an album duel. I haven't done this in a while,
and I wanted to surprise you guys, and I decided
to do two Cinderella albums from the band Cinderella, you know,
not the Princess, the band. And I needed some help
(00:23):
doing this because I don't feel like just me talking
about two albums was gonna be easy. So to help
me out with this, we have a special guest. He
is the fabulous, crazy wild animal who loves crumpets for
some reason, and he is the lead singer of that
arena rock show. His name is t Bone. T Bone,
Are you there?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'd doing pretty.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Solid, been keeping busy with the shows and everything and
life's been good.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well that's awesome. A I'm doing fine. I've been up
here in the studio all day waiting for you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Nice. Well, I hope I didn't keep you waiting too long.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But you know, hey, I'm glad to be on here
and thanks thanks for having me man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, definitely. I'm glad for you to have be on here,
of course, and you know I've heard you guys are
actually going to be uh playing somewhere in Ohio. I
can't think of the name of the place. Where was
that again?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So this Friday, we're gonna be at Warren, Ohio at
the Robinson Theater.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's right, And then Saturday we're.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Gonna be at be A my Speedway and for sales.
So yeah, we're excited about those. Always great shows and
we're out in those two places and amazing people that
run those operations and good people to work with.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's great, man. I'm I'm excited for you as well.
I can't wait to can't wait to go out there
and see you guys again. I've always enjoyed your guys'
live shows. But we're not here to talk about your
crazy shows or anything. We're here to talk about Cinderella.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh yeah, great man, love that man. So many goods.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I mean, you guys seeing the song Nobody's Full every
now and then, right.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, it's been a minute, but yeah, we uh, we
throw that one in there, and we throw a couple
other Centerella songs.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Actually, every now and then we throw them in.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, really, what other songs, because I don't think I've
heard any other songs by you guys.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So we've actually done a couple of years ago, we
did Shake Me a couple of times for several shows,
and that over that always went over pretty well. Uh.
The latest Cinderella song that we've done, uh, and it
was a little more in the third quarter of last year,
we did uh no, uh don't Know What You Got
Till It's Gone, And we did that one a lot,
and always uh would kind of have like this moment
(02:38):
where whenever it was possible with the with the venue,
we would set up in the middle of the venue,
have Nikki come out with an acoustic and then just
start going right into it. Full band starts playing behind
it as soon.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
As we get it, uh, get into it. So, yeah,
it's a blast that song.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
That song is uh, I don't know, I mean, I
don't know about you, but that song always makes me cry,
always makes you tear up.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's one of those songs like.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You know, it doesn't necessarily have to be like you know,
I look at I look at music where it's uh,
you know, you you you have an emotional attachment in
some way, shape or form. And you know, for a
lot of people, some people look at that song and
be like, you know, they think of it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You know, it's a relationship. You know, how was written
probably yeah, it was probably written for that.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
But to me, like you know, it resonates to me
in like many different ways I've looked.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
At it, you know, just just a simple.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Meaning of like, hey man, you don't know what you
got till it's gone, So like, you know, realize the
good things in life and cherish.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
From while they're here. Because you know, it's a short one,
you know, I like the best of it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I like that. That's a that's actually a good way
to look at it.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I kind of looked at it. That's the way as well.
Looks like you and I can take alike. Well, so
what we're going to do here, t Bone is we're
going to talk about to the classic albums. Everybody knows
these album Night Songs and Long Cold Winter.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Love them both.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yes, both great albums. I think they're masterpieces and their
own rights. But yeah, I want to know by like
basically track one Night Songs and then the other song
Bad Semesters blues which song is better? And then we're
going to compare that. So so you see, in my opinion,
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Long Cold Winter is my favorite album. But if I
had to go with the best first track, it would
be Night Songs.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I'd actually I mean, i'd actually have to agree. Yeah,
I'm in every aspect right there.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Long Cold Winter, for several different reasons, is my favorite
album O theirs.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I like, you know, for many.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Different reasons, whether it's like just you know, the songs
that are on it, and like that bluesy vibe is
some of those songs like Heartbreaks Mount Heartbreak Station.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I was on the next one Heartbreak Station itself.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But you would have you know, Gypsy Road and stuff like,
oh it's killer.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
But if you're talking about that first track, Night Songs,
I mean I love the vibe of Night Songs. When
that comes on hair Nation, Oh my goodness, I turned
that one up immediately.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Oh yes, I like Sea stret Smoothes, but Night Songs
definitely takes it for me.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I mean I love the intro. You know, hear that
that done, that little guitar intro, and then all of
a sudden you hear you know, Tom going like like
that songs like it really sets the vibe.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Oh yeah, he digs into those vocals so good too,
everything he does, but especially that one.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So with that in mine, I think so far Night
Song's album is winning, but the first track being number one.
But now we got to go in with their biggest hit,
shake Me versus Gypsy Road. That's another hard one.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
So so historically, you know, they've you know, it's like
they're one of the biggest hits, if not their biggest. Well,
I me, personally, I like Gypsy Road better.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I love shake Me, great song, but I'm I'm big
on Gypsy Road.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I always loved that one. That was one I always blared.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I think I definitely see why shake Me is so popular,
you know, and I love it too, But Gypsy Road
for me takes.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It on that one.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think, in my opinion, Gypsy Roads is a better song.
It's probably you know, the intro, the guitar work. Great song, yeah,
but I think shakes Me'sy music video is better.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh agreed, Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I think the music video for shake Mey is better
and they you know, because they incorporated that whole vibe
with the the two like stepsisters and stuff where they
had it Nobody's Full and Shake Me for that same album,
and uh, even when they did Somebody Take Me like,
they kept that same vibe and and it was cool.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Like I think the videos were better.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I liked how they kind of incorporated and actually all
that I thought it was neat.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I actually like how in the Somebody Saving video when
they see the Twins, they're like, hey, it's them, and
then they pass them by and they see bon Jovi
and they're just like he was like what right?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, the other New England band from Jersey and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Right well center old.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Weren't they like from Pennsylvania or were they more of
a Jersey band?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I can't remember. I think they were more of a
Jersey band if I recall.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Okay, I knew they were up in the New England
like area roughly, but I always thought that was funny video.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, what's interesting is bon Jovi actually helped them. That's
why they put him in that video.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I say, yeah, he yeah, they worked together a lot
on some stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It was it was pretty cool, like and I didn't
know that until like I saw that video and then
I'm like, okay, well I need to look some of
this up and then I did some research on and
I thought it was neat.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That was cool.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Those bands kind of worked together, especially when you had
a lot of eighties bands at that time, you know,
being rivals at each other's at each others like it was.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's refreshing. It was refreshing to see that.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'll agree with you on that. Also, to answer your
question about where they are actually from, they are from Pennsylvania,
so I would say they're more of a Pennsylvania ban Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Okay, I couldn't remember because I always thought of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
But I'm like, sometimes I always forget where they're from
the only reason I know about bon Joey being in
New Jersey is because they say.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It that album.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
They had that one album exactly. So with that being said,
Gypsy Road song number one music video for Shake Me
as one as well. But I think they're tied now,
So we're gonna move on to track three. Dun dun, duh.
It's the ballad you've mentioned, you sang it before, Don't
know what you got till It's gone versus Nobody's full.
(08:50):
Oh man, that is tough. Actually, yeah, that is dark.
I hate this. Uh Okay, Nobody's full for me, the
way it starts off, and the way and the way
then Tom you know, starts singing the lyrics and he
(09:11):
just brings in the emotion to it. I mean, don't
get me wrong, he brings a lot of emotion to
the other song too, but I can feel I feel
like he's really in pain with Nobody's full.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, so nobody's fool, right that The Long Cold Winner
was the first album I ever listened to of Cinderella,
and I had that in Heartbreak Station on CD. My
dad let me borrow it and stuff. I probably still
have it at my house, but I don't know what
you got till it's gone on for me, like that
was that was the song to me that like, when
(09:43):
I think of Cinderella, of that is the song and
I think that's the most to me, that's the most
iconic one. Now as a performer, as a musician, nobody's
fool For me, it's actually more fun to perform, Like
I like the fluctuation of ranges.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Throughout that song. I think that uh, you know, personal
preference on.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Playing it, I would say nobody's fool, but it's hard
for me as a listener.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Man, that's tough, but.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
As a listener, i'd say, and justly for what I
think of Cinderella, as I would they don't know what.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You got till it's gone.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
All right, all right, I can't.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You know, it's hard. You know, you can't be upset
with either choice.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You can't. They're so good you can't. No, not at all.
That's that's the problem here. I picked two classic albums.
Maybe I should have picked one of their not so
good albums, even though I'd like all their albums. But
that's just me, right, that's how I am. Yeah, Well,
I love all the B sides and everything exactly. Well, okay, well,
(10:48):
I guess we'll just have to put that as a draw.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, put a draw on that one.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, since we got nothing for nothing on that one,
what do you think for nothing? Thing for nothing? Right
next to the last Mile?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Oh, I'm gonna go with last mile?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Thank you? Glad you said that. Yes, I love that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's it's so catchy.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's one of those songs where like you'll you'll play
it and you listen to it and then that tune
will literally be.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Stuck in your head.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
All I like the positive vibe it has to you,
like you know it says you had the last mile.
Well it almost feels like, yeah, this is the last
mile to success or something or to what you're trying
to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, it's it's such a good feel good song.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And yeah, it's that you know, shining positivity and that's
you know, that's a lot of like seventies and eighties
a classic rock, like I especially eighties rock, like they're
the feel good party music and not not as much
a party song, but it's that feel good vibe that
I love. And that's what like songs like Gypsy Road
(11:57):
even then, to feel good vibe, Like that's why I
was I'm big on a Long Cold Winter album, but
I love them both.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So yes, uh, nothing for Nothing though, great guitar work,
but yeah, last last mile, Uh it's got it.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh, definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, I guess we've got to move on because we're
now Once around the Ride okay, okay, and then of
course we also got Second Win. Uh, Second Win. It's
a good song, but I think Once around the Ride
it's a little bit more memorable than Second Win.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, i'd say so too.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
It's that out that song is more it's it's a
harder hitting song to me like you know, and.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Cold Win it's it's it's cool. I like it. Not
my all time favorite, but it does the job it
needs to do.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
For Long Cold Winner, you like it if we cool
Wood Winner's got so many different like themes running through it,
but it you know, some are like, you know, if
you want to like a slow, slow one or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know it's got some of that.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
But when you got that Night Songs album, most every
song on there is a banger like it hits you know.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
And that's why. And that's why I like that one
over Cold and all that. Yeah, I'd have to agree,
I would.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I would say too, that was a that was an
easy one. But uh, here's one of my favorite songs.
It's it's very short and I don't know why. Every
time I hear it, I think if Alice Cooper from
the seventies, I don't know why. I yeah, that's it
has nothing to do with them, but hell on Wheels
Yeah yep. And then of course the title song of
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the other album, Long Cold Winter.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Would be so tough. I love it. I love these bands.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I love his band, love this band's like the whole
discography honestly, Mmm.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I had to go with Long Cold Winter just because
because of the vibe, the blue, the bluesy vibe it has.
And that's one reason why I liked Long Cold Winter.
It had that bluesy vibe. Don't get me wrong. Night
Song was you know, is heavier, but when they showed
their blues elements that made me go like, WHOA, these
guys are actually good.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
And that's kind of why I'm leaning that way too,
because me, I I'm heavy, like I'm heavily inspired by
like blues artists and stuff and like rock and roll,
like well, one of my favorite bands, if not my
favorite band of all times.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Led Zeppelin.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I've always said my two favorites are like Van hal
and led Zeppelins. But led Zeppelin like the inspiration they've
had off from other like blues artists and stuff, and
what they brought to the blues scene that was like,
like artists like that drew me into the blues and
then like hearing bands like Cinerella like dive into that
(15:00):
and then even in that I think.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It was their next album, Heartbreak Stations.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I don't know if it was, like I believe it
is the next one, uh, Heartbreak Station with that bluesy
stuff going forward, Like.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I I loved all that stuff. And you know when you.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
See there Tom Keefer live like the same deal, Like
it's you love to hear those bluesy songs.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well that's why Tom Keefer always say we always need
a little shelter. Oh yeah, which has nothing to do
with these albums, but still a good song and very bluesy.
But uh, I would had to say Long Cold Winter
beats hell on Hell on wheels. But but if you
(15:41):
don't like it, then I don't care. But what do
you think of that? I had to do that, what
do you think of you don't like it? And and
then of course or is Somebody Saved Me one of
their big hits?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, Somebody Saved Me.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean that's so good, dude, that's one of that's
only one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Off that album.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Oh yeah, love that song.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I love the video too.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, great video. I know we were talking about that with.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Like, yeah bon Jovi thing. But what I like about
that video in the beginning is you know when they're
singing the song and then they stop and then the
producer's like, let's do one more guys, and they just
look so fed up, like really, oh, they were over it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
They were you know, they were just showing some of
the truths about you know, uh, studio work.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
They were just you know that they had to they
have to run through that.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And you know, if you ever do any like type
of like studio work where you're having to like record
a song, like it's like that, you could you could
do one take and think it sounds perfect and then
they're like, eh, cut into this vocal a little harder,
or like play this note a little bit or like,
and then you do it again and then you know
it's rent and repeat until you know you're happy, they're happy.
(16:58):
So yeah, it's very true.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
What that video showed.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It actually reminds me of that scene from Bohemian Rap
City where where Roger Cats saying galo leo and it's
like how many colleges do you want? Geez?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, I mean it's accurate.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Uh, but but I had to I would have to
go with somebody save me on this one.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, it's that video is just I mean that of
the song in general just rocks.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I like it a lot better than that than
the other one. I just for me, you know I
used to.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I used to go through like especially on YouTube, and
just go through like the music videos all the time,
and that was one. I mind have circulated more views
on that one than any of their other songs.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Honestly, I loved it that much.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Well, yeah, I think that's a it's hard, it's hard
to pick, but yeah, somebody save me as one one,
that one. Yeah, but we are going to get next
track here on track eight, we're like halfway done here.
It's called in Front the Outside first I'm coming Home.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'm coming home.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, I mean I was. I was waiting for it.
I'm coming home. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, that one was an easy one for me. I
another one of those like I don't necessarily.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Say bluesy vibes, but it's just like, you know, a
feel good song, like everybody can sing to that, you know,
everybody can wait feel good about it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well yeah, yeah, it's a feel good song, and I
really it makes me want to just go drive out
into into the country for some reason.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But uh then here's one of my all time favorite
tracks from this album from Long Cold Winter, Fire and
Ice versus Yeah, Push Push. I gotta go with Fire
and Ice because it's just a little harder the way
they say fire and ice, but push pushes it's up
there too.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I'm trying to remember push Push. Honestly, I remember Fire
and Ice like I remember.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
That't his that was the CD I played more of
well on what I remember of, like you know Fire
and Ice that song.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, I love the I love the vocals on it.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I mean I say that with most Tom Keeper you
know songs, but like, oh man, it sounds so good.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
In that one.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Oh yes, he's really good in that one. I love
the guitar working there. I think Jeff really really brings
that that song out.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah what what a guitarist.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Very underrated player. I actually went back to listen to
some of his solo work and I'm like, man, this
guy could sing. I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, it's crazy like some of those guys like yeah,
they don't get enough like credit, like they put in
the work and uh yeah you sound amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Oh yes, And I gotta give give pred to Eric
Birmingham were playing with Brett Michael Savis out of nowhere.
I was like, wow, okay, yeah all right, Rick got
to see you.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Uh yeah, the first time he knows that I was like,
oh wait a minute, aren't you from.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's like I actually went up to him because I
was trying to meet Brett, but he got away from me.
So I just went up to Eric and said, hey,
I'm a huge Inderella fan, and he just gave me
the whole like how old are you look?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It's like, how do you know those music?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Long story? Uh? But yeah, I would say fire and
heyst went when that one and then our final two
tracks back Home Again, and then there's take Me Back
that that kind of rhymes a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, I know I'm on a I know I'm on
a roll with the Long Cold Winter songs, but take me.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Back, Yeah, take Me Back is definitely a good one,
that one. I I think so too. Back Home Again
I love that one too, you know when he says
back home again, but take me back, like you said,
it's another feel good song.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I think. I think that whole.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I think the whole Night Songs album, Like you know,
both both albums, right, they have their own like B
side songs that you know you didn't hear every day,
but overall, like you know, I like Long Cold Winter
better as an album, but overall.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Night Songs, I mean there was more hits probably on
that one.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh yeah, I think you're right on that.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, I mean, look at you know, shakee me, Nobody's
fool and then you. I mean, Night Songs is sort
of a B side, but in my opinion, could have
stood out on its own.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Somebody saved me, like so many good ones on one
album and like just to come out like that with
that song, that album unreal.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Oh yeah, I don't know. I do agree with you.
Night Songs is definitely a bigger album, but I think
Long Cold Winter was a well more produced album.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, I think like when I think of I mean, obviously,
these are the two albums when you think Cinderella, these
are the two.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You go to. Oh yeah, I just like and I
I mean for different reasons.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
If I want like a lose you know vibe, I'm
gonna go more to you know, Long Cold Winter. But
I just want to like a jam out to some
like you know, the stereotypical like eighties like hard rock,
like just guitars hitting, like rifts and everything, like you know.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I'm gonna go with Night Songs, not that Long Cold
Winter doesn't have that, but overall, like Night Songs has
more like the you feel like you're in the crowd,
you know, jamming out type songs.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So would you say which album one here, I'm gonna
go with Long Cold Winter.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
As as a big cindere elephant, I'm going to say
Long Cold Winter.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yes, but that's you know, my own personal you know,
that's my own personal feeling towards it.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Night Songs absolutely amazing to anybody who picks Night Songs. I, hey,
I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I wouldn't be upset either way.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You know, they're you know, both stand alone, great great,
standing alone on themselves.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So yeah, i'd say Long Cool Winner.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Well, TVO, and I do appreciate you helping me out
with this. It was great to hear your voice, man,
and I'd look forward to seeing you guys live and
hopefully one day I can get you and the band
here into the studio.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah absolutely, And yeah you're welcome, man, and thank you
for having me on.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It was a it was a fun time, you know,
I really I haven't got a chance in like a
minute to like just sit down and discuss like bands
and like music and stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's just been work, work, work, NonStop.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
But hey, I was glad that we can set some
time aside and do this.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, definitely. Man, Well, I'll definitely talk to you later.
And to all the people out there, thank you for
listening to this podcast. Rocking with Seabast, Take care and
keep on rocking.
What's up everybody? This is Sea Bass for I'm rocking
with Sea Bass and I am back with another good episode.
As last week, I told you I was gonna do
an album duel. I haven't done this in a while,
and I wanted to surprise you guys, and I decided
to do two Cinderella albums from the band Cinderella, you know,
not the Princess, the band. And I needed some help
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doing this because I don't feel like just me talking
about two albums was gonna be easy. So to help
me out with this, we have a special guest. He
is the fabulous, crazy wild animal who loves crumpets for
some reason, and he is the lead singer of that
arena rock show. His name is t Bone. T Bone,
Are you there?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'd doing pretty.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Solid, been keeping busy with the shows and everything and
life's been good.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well that's awesome. A I'm doing fine. I've been up
here in the studio all day waiting for you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Nice. Well, I hope I didn't keep you waiting too long.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But you know, hey, I'm glad to be on here
and thanks thanks for having me man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, definitely. I'm glad for you to have be on here,
of course, and you know I've heard you guys are
actually going to be uh playing somewhere in Ohio. I
can't think of the name of the place. Where was
that again?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
So this Friday, we're gonna be at Warren, Ohio at
the Robinson Theater.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's right, And then Saturday we're.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Gonna be at be A my Speedway and for sales.
So yeah, we're excited about those. Always great shows and
we're out in those two places and amazing people that
run those operations and good people to work with.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
That's great, man. I'm I'm excited for you as well.
I can't wait to can't wait to go out there
and see you guys again. I've always enjoyed your guys'
live shows. But we're not here to talk about your
crazy shows or anything. We're here to talk about Cinderella.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh yeah, great man, love that man. So many goods.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I mean, you guys seeing the song Nobody's Full every
now and then, right.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, it's been a minute, but yeah, we uh, we
throw that one in there, and we throw a couple
other Centerella songs.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Actually, every now and then we throw them in.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, really, what other songs, because I don't think I've
heard any other songs by you guys.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So we've actually done a couple of years ago, we
did Shake Me a couple of times for several shows,
and that over that always went over pretty well. Uh.
The latest Cinderella song that we've done, uh, and it
was a little more in the third quarter of last year,
we did uh no, uh don't Know What You Got
Till It's Gone, And we did that one a lot,
and always uh would kind of have like this moment
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where whenever it was possible with the with the venue,
we would set up in the middle of the venue,
have Nikki come out with an acoustic and then just
start going right into it. Full band starts playing behind
it as soon.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
As we get it, uh, get into it. So, yeah,
it's a blast that song.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
That song is uh, I don't know, I mean, I
don't know about you, but that song always makes me cry,
always makes you tear up.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's one of those songs like.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You know, it doesn't necessarily have to be like you know,
I look at I look at music where it's uh,
you know, you you you have an emotional attachment in
some way, shape or form. And you know, for a
lot of people, some people look at that song and
be like, you know, they think of it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You know, it's a relationship. You know, how was written
probably yeah, it was probably written for that.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
But to me, like you know, it resonates to me
in like many different ways I've looked.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
At it, you know, just just a simple.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Meaning of like, hey man, you don't know what you
got till it's gone, So like, you know, realize the
good things in life and cherish.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
From while they're here. Because you know, it's a short one,
you know, I like the best of it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I like that. That's a that's actually a good way
to look at it.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I kind of looked at it. That's the way as well.
Looks like you and I can take alike. Well, so
what we're going to do here, t Bone is we're
going to talk about to the classic albums. Everybody knows
these album Night Songs and Long Cold Winter.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Love them both.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yes, both great albums. I think they're masterpieces and their
own rights. But yeah, I want to know by like
basically track one Night Songs and then the other song
Bad Semesters blues which song is better? And then we're
going to compare that. So so you see, in my opinion,
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Long Cold Winter is my favorite album. But if I
had to go with the best first track, it would
be Night Songs.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I'd actually I mean, i'd actually have to agree. Yeah,
I'm in every aspect right there.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Long Cold Winter, for several different reasons, is my favorite
album O theirs.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I like, you know, for many.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Different reasons, whether it's like just you know, the songs
that are on it, and like that bluesy vibe is
some of those songs like Heartbreaks Mount Heartbreak Station.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I was on the next one Heartbreak Station itself.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
But you would have you know, Gypsy Road and stuff like,
oh it's killer.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
But if you're talking about that first track, Night Songs,
I mean I love the vibe of Night Songs. When
that comes on hair Nation, Oh my goodness, I turned
that one up immediately.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Oh yes, I like Sea stret Smoothes, but Night Songs
definitely takes it for me.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I mean I love the intro. You know, hear that
that done, that little guitar intro, and then all of
a sudden you hear you know, Tom going like like
that songs like it really sets the vibe.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Oh yeah, he digs into those vocals so good too,
everything he does, but especially that one.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So with that in mine, I think so far Night
Song's album is winning, but the first track being number one.
But now we got to go in with their biggest hit,
shake Me versus Gypsy Road. That's another hard one.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
So so historically, you know, they've you know, it's like
they're one of the biggest hits, if not their biggest. Well,
I me, personally, I like Gypsy Road better.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I love shake Me, great song, but I'm I'm big
on Gypsy Road.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I always loved that one. That was one I always blared.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I think I definitely see why shake Me is so popular,
you know, and I love it too, But Gypsy Road
for me takes.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It on that one.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think, in my opinion, Gypsy Roads is a better song.
It's probably you know, the intro, the guitar work. Great song, yeah,
but I think shakes Me'sy music video is better.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh agreed, Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I think the music video for shake Mey is better
and they you know, because they incorporated that whole vibe
with the the two like stepsisters and stuff where they
had it Nobody's Full and Shake Me for that same album,
and uh, even when they did Somebody Take Me like,
they kept that same vibe and and it was cool.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Like I think the videos were better.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I liked how they kind of incorporated and actually all
that I thought it was neat.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I actually like how in the Somebody Saving video when
they see the Twins, they're like, hey, it's them, and
then they pass them by and they see bon Jovi
and they're just like he was like what right?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, the other New England band from Jersey and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Right well center old.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Weren't they like from Pennsylvania or were they more of
a Jersey band?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I can't remember. I think they were more of a
Jersey band if I recall.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Okay, I knew they were up in the New England
like area roughly, but I always thought that was funny video.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, what's interesting is bon Jovi actually helped them. That's
why they put him in that video.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I say, yeah, he yeah, they worked together a lot
on some stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It was it was pretty cool, like and I didn't
know that until like I saw that video and then
I'm like, okay, well I need to look some of
this up and then I did some research on and
I thought it was neat.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That was cool.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Those bands kind of worked together, especially when you had
a lot of eighties bands at that time, you know,
being rivals at each other's at each others like it was.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It's refreshing. It was refreshing to see that.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'll agree with you on that. Also, to answer your
question about where they are actually from, they are from Pennsylvania,
so I would say they're more of a Pennsylvania ban Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Okay, I couldn't remember because I always thought of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
But I'm like, sometimes I always forget where they're from
the only reason I know about bon Joey being in
New Jersey is because they say.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It that album.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
They had that one album exactly. So with that being said,
Gypsy Road song number one music video for Shake Me
as one as well. But I think they're tied now,
So we're gonna move on to track three. Dun dun, duh.
It's the ballad you've mentioned, you sang it before, Don't
know what you got till It's gone versus Nobody's full.
(08:50):
Oh man, that is tough. Actually, yeah, that is dark.
I hate this. Uh Okay, Nobody's full for me, the
way it starts off, and the way and the way
then Tom you know, starts singing the lyrics and he
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just brings in the emotion to it. I mean, don't
get me wrong, he brings a lot of emotion to
the other song too, but I can feel I feel
like he's really in pain with Nobody's full.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, so nobody's fool, right that The Long Cold Winner
was the first album I ever listened to of Cinderella,
and I had that in Heartbreak Station on CD. My
dad let me borrow it and stuff. I probably still
have it at my house, but I don't know what
you got till it's gone on for me, like that
was that was the song to me that like, when
(09:43):
I think of Cinderella, of that is the song and
I think that's the most to me, that's the most
iconic one. Now as a performer, as a musician, nobody's
fool For me, it's actually more fun to perform, Like
I like the fluctuation of ranges.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Throughout that song. I think that uh, you know, personal
preference on.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Playing it, I would say nobody's fool, but it's hard
for me as a listener.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Man, that's tough, but.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
As a listener, i'd say, and justly for what I
think of Cinderella, as I would they don't know what.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You got till it's gone.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
All right, all right, I can't.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You know, it's hard. You know, you can't be upset
with either choice.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
You can't. They're so good you can't. No, not at all.
That's that's the problem here. I picked two classic albums.
Maybe I should have picked one of their not so
good albums, even though I'd like all their albums. But
that's just me, right, that's how I am. Yeah, Well,
I love all the B sides and everything exactly. Well, okay, well,
(10:48):
I guess we'll just have to put that as a draw.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, put a draw on that one.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, since we got nothing for nothing on that one,
what do you think for nothing? Thing for nothing? Right
next to the last Mile?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Oh, I'm gonna go with last mile?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Thank you? Glad you said that. Yes, I love that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's it's so catchy.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
It's one of those songs where like you'll you'll play
it and you listen to it and then that tune
will literally be.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Stuck in your head.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
All I like the positive vibe it has to you,
like you know it says you had the last mile.
Well it almost feels like, yeah, this is the last
mile to success or something or to what you're trying
to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, it's it's such a good feel good song.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And yeah, it's that you know, shining positivity and that's
you know, that's a lot of like seventies and eighties
a classic rock, like I especially eighties rock, like they're
the feel good party music and not not as much
a party song, but it's that feel good vibe that
I love. And that's what like songs like Gypsy Road
(11:57):
even then, to feel good vibe, Like that's why I
was I'm big on a Long Cold Winter album, but
I love them both.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So yes, uh, nothing for Nothing though, great guitar work,
but yeah, last last mile, Uh it's got it.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Oh, definitely.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, I guess we've got to move on because we're
now Once around the Ride okay, okay, and then of
course we also got Second Win. Uh, Second Win. It's
a good song, but I think Once around the Ride
it's a little bit more memorable than Second Win.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, i'd say so too.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
It's that out that song is more it's it's a
harder hitting song to me like you know, and.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Cold Win it's it's it's cool. I like it. Not
my all time favorite, but it does the job it
needs to do.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
For Long Cold Winner, you like it if we cool
Wood Winner's got so many different like themes running through it,
but it you know, some are like, you know, if
you want to like a slow, slow one or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You know it's got some of that.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
But when you got that Night Songs album, most every
song on there is a banger like it hits you know.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
And that's why. And that's why I like that one
over Cold and all that. Yeah, I'd have to agree,
I would.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I would say too, that was a that was an
easy one. But uh, here's one of my favorite songs.
It's it's very short and I don't know why. Every
time I hear it, I think if Alice Cooper from
the seventies, I don't know why. I yeah, that's it
has nothing to do with them, but hell on Wheels
Yeah yep. And then of course the title song of
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the other album, Long Cold Winter.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Would be so tough. I love it. I love these bands.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I love his band, love this band's like the whole
discography honestly, Mmm.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I had to go with Long Cold Winter just because
because of the vibe, the blue, the bluesy vibe it has.
And that's one reason why I liked Long Cold Winter.
It had that bluesy vibe. Don't get me wrong. Night
Song was you know, is heavier, but when they showed
their blues elements that made me go like, WHOA, these
guys are actually good.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
And that's kind of why I'm leaning that way too,
because me, I I'm heavy, like I'm heavily inspired by
like blues artists and stuff and like rock and roll,
like well, one of my favorite bands, if not my
favorite band of all times.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Led Zeppelin.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I've always said my two favorites are like Van hal
and led Zeppelins. But led Zeppelin like the inspiration they've
had off from other like blues artists and stuff, and
what they brought to the blues scene that was like,
like artists like that drew me into the blues and
then like hearing bands like Cinerella like dive into that
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and then even in that I think.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It was their next album, Heartbreak Stations.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I don't know if it was, like I believe it
is the next one, uh, Heartbreak Station with that bluesy
stuff going forward, Like.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I I loved all that stuff. And you know when you.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
See there Tom Keefer live like the same deal, Like
it's you love to hear those bluesy songs.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well that's why Tom Keefer always say we always need
a little shelter. Oh yeah, which has nothing to do
with these albums, but still a good song and very bluesy.
But uh, I would had to say Long Cold Winter
beats hell on Hell on wheels. But but if you
(15:41):
don't like it, then I don't care. But what do
you think of that? I had to do that, what
do you think of you don't like it? And and
then of course or is Somebody Saved Me one of
their big hits?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, Somebody Saved Me.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean that's so good, dude, that's one of that's
only one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Off that album.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Oh yeah, love that song.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I love the video too.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, great video. I know we were talking about that with.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Like, yeah bon Jovi thing. But what I like about
that video in the beginning is you know when they're
singing the song and then they stop and then the
producer's like, let's do one more guys, and they just
look so fed up, like really, oh, they were over it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
They were you know, they were just showing some of
the truths about you know, uh, studio work.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
They were just you know that they had to they
have to run through that.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And you know, if you ever do any like type
of like studio work where you're having to like record
a song, like it's like that, you could you could
do one take and think it sounds perfect and then
they're like, eh, cut into this vocal a little harder,
or like play this note a little bit or like,
and then you do it again and then you know
it's rent and repeat until you know you're happy, they're happy.
(16:58):
So yeah, it's very true.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
What that video showed.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It actually reminds me of that scene from Bohemian Rap
City where where Roger Cats saying galo leo and it's
like how many colleges do you want? Geez?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, I mean it's accurate.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Uh, but but I had to I would have to
go with somebody save me on this one.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, it's that video is just I mean that of
the song in general just rocks.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I like it a lot better than that than
the other one. I just for me, you know I
used to.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I used to go through like especially on YouTube, and
just go through like the music videos all the time,
and that was one. I mind have circulated more views
on that one than any of their other songs.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Honestly, I loved it that much.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Well, yeah, I think that's a it's hard, it's hard
to pick, but yeah, somebody save me as one one,
that one. Yeah, but we are going to get next
track here on track eight, we're like halfway done here.
It's called in Front the Outside first I'm coming Home.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'm coming home.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, I mean I was. I was waiting for it.
I'm coming home. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, that one was an easy one for me. I
another one of those like I don't necessarily.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Say bluesy vibes, but it's just like, you know, a
feel good song, like everybody can sing to that, you know,
everybody can wait feel good about it.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well yeah, yeah, it's a feel good song, and I
really it makes me want to just go drive out
into into the country for some reason.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But uh then here's one of my all time favorite
tracks from this album from Long Cold Winter, Fire and
Ice versus Yeah, Push Push. I gotta go with Fire
and Ice because it's just a little harder the way
they say fire and ice, but push pushes it's up
there too.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I'm trying to remember push Push. Honestly, I remember Fire
and Ice like I remember.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
That't his that was the CD I played more of
well on what I remember of, like you know Fire
and Ice that song.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, I love the I love the vocals on it.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I mean I say that with most Tom Keeper you
know songs, but like, oh man, it sounds so good.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
In that one.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Oh yes, he's really good in that one. I love
the guitar working there. I think Jeff really really brings
that that song out.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah what what a guitarist.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Very underrated player. I actually went back to listen to
some of his solo work and I'm like, man, this
guy could sing. I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, it's crazy like some of those guys like yeah,
they don't get enough like credit, like they put in
the work and uh yeah you sound amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Oh yes, And I gotta give give pred to Eric
Birmingham were playing with Brett Michael Savis out of nowhere.
I was like, wow, okay, yeah all right, Rick got
to see you.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Uh yeah, the first time he knows that I was like,
oh wait a minute, aren't you from.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's like I actually went up to him because I
was trying to meet Brett, but he got away from me.
So I just went up to Eric and said, hey,
I'm a huge Inderella fan, and he just gave me
the whole like how old are you look?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It's like, how do you know those music?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Long story? Uh? But yeah, I would say fire and
heyst went when that one and then our final two
tracks back Home Again, and then there's take Me Back
that that kind of rhymes a little bit.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, I know I'm on a I know I'm on
a roll with the Long Cold Winter songs, but take me.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Back, Yeah, take Me Back is definitely a good one,
that one. I I think so too. Back Home Again
I love that one too, you know when he says
back home again, but take me back, like you said,
it's another feel good song.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I think. I think that whole.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I think the whole Night Songs album, Like you know,
both both albums, right, they have their own like B
side songs that you know you didn't hear every day,
but overall, like you know, I like Long Cold Winter
better as an album, but overall.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Night Songs, I mean there was more hits probably on
that one.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh yeah, I think you're right on that.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, I mean, look at you know, shakee me, Nobody's
fool and then you. I mean, Night Songs is sort
of a B side, but in my opinion, could have
stood out on its own.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Somebody saved me, like so many good ones on one
album and like just to come out like that with
that song, that album unreal.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Oh yeah, I don't know. I do agree with you.
Night Songs is definitely a bigger album, but I think
Long Cold Winter was a well more produced album.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, I think like when I think of I mean, obviously,
these are the two albums when you think Cinderella, these
are the two.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You go to. Oh yeah, I just like and I
I mean for different reasons.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
If I want like a lose you know vibe, I'm
gonna go more to you know, Long Cold Winter. But
I just want to like a jam out to some
like you know, the stereotypical like eighties like hard rock,
like just guitars hitting, like rifts and everything, like you know.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I'm gonna go with Night Songs, not that Long Cold
Winter doesn't have that, but overall, like Night Songs has
more like the you feel like you're in the crowd,
you know, jamming out type songs.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So would you say which album one here, I'm gonna
go with Long Cold Winter.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
As as a big cindere elephant, I'm going to say
Long Cold Winter.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yes, but that's you know, my own personal you know,
that's my own personal feeling towards it.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Night Songs absolutely amazing to anybody who picks Night Songs. I, hey,
I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I wouldn't be upset either way.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
You know, they're you know, both stand alone, great great,
standing alone on themselves.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So yeah, i'd say Long Cool Winner.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Well, TVO, and I do appreciate you helping me out
with this. It was great to hear your voice, man,
and I'd look forward to seeing you guys live and
hopefully one day I can get you and the band
here into the studio.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah absolutely, And yeah you're welcome, man, and thank you
for having me on.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It was a it was a fun time, you know,
I really I haven't got a chance in like a
minute to like just sit down and discuss like bands
and like music and stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's just been work, work, work, NonStop.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
But hey, I was glad that we can set some
time aside and do this.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
It was fun.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, definitely. Man, Well, I'll definitely talk to you later.
And to all the people out there, thank you for
listening to this podcast. Rocking with Seabast, Take care and
keep on rocking.
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