June 26, 2025 • 35 mins
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez attempts to get 'clout' on X by trashing Queens and claiming to be from the Bronx, all the while being a product of the upper middle class Yorktown Heights. Ryan asks where listeners tell people they're from, and whether it's important to be geographically precise and accurate.
Richard Holtorf, former member of the Colorado state house of representatives (63) and minority whip, joins Ryan to discuss his candidacy for state party vice-chair and the endorsement of three Congressmen (Jeff Hurd, Jeff Crank, Gabe Evans).
Richard Holtorf, former member of the Colorado state house of representatives (63) and minority whip, joins Ryan to discuss his candidacy for state party vice-chair and the endorsement of three Congressmen (Jeff Hurd, Jeff Crank, Gabe Evans).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you're talking to somebody that you've just met, where
do you tell them that you're from?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You know, where do you live?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Like for me, I live in Greenwood Village, But for
people outside of the Denver metro that might not mean anything.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So you might say, in my case that I'm from Denver,
I live in Denver. I don't live in Denver. Thank God.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
The taxes and everything else the crime. I love Greenwood Village.
A lot of people don't know what that is when
I say that. The people back home Michigan, you live
at Greenfield Village. No, No, I don't. It's Greenwood Village here.
And I really took a long time in adapting to
that from where I originate, which is Michigan, and back
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then living in southeastern Lower Michigan. There was an ad
campaign on WXYZ Channel seven, this isn't the wake of
so you had riots in the late sixties after the
assassination of Martin Luther King. A lot of Detroit burned
and there was something called white flight. And Shannon's old
(01:03):
enough to remember this, because Shannon, when you tell people
where were from, and you say Detroit, like you're from Detroit, right, Yeah,
I was Green Field and Joy. Yeah, see, Okay got
the streets down and everything. But as Shannon Well knows,
after the Riots, everything cleared out. Detroit got real ugly
and it became the butt of jokes punchlines for years
(01:24):
and the late night shows, and they deserved a lot
of it. There was this thing called Devil's Night. I'm
not sure if they have it around here, but that
is the night before Halloween and there would be a
lot of fire, fiery but mostly peaceful destruction of property,
arson and so forth, and buildings would be burned out,
and this was a yearly news story on Detroit television. Anyway,
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in the wake of all this, in the seventies are
very dark, dismal days. You know, Jimmy Hoffe gets kidnapp
probably murdered as well in metro Detroit. And in the
eighties wasn't a whole lot better. My mom wasn't real
comfortable with me going downtown Detroit for a night game
at Tiger Stadium the corner of Michigan and Trumbull, just
because of the reputation of Detroit and how bad it
had gotten. It got really bad even under Gil Hill,
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Detroit police chief, who was prominently featured in Beverly Hills
Cop that gave Detroit a point of pride Axel Foley
Eddie Murphy, one of the biggest hit summer movies.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Of the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Nineteen eighty four, Beverly Hills Cop in comes this hardened
Detroit cop detective into Beverly Hills And isn't this funny
kind of fish out of water? Yes, it's very funny,
the juxtaposition of Detroit to Beverly Hills and how they
do things. But you have to be street smart in Detroit.
And this TV ad campaign was stand up and tell
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him You're from Detroit. Stand up and tell him You're
from Detroit. It was a song and it was a
jingle and it stuck with mail little kid. And I
guess I was so naive as a little kid. I
had pride in Detroit and my Detroit sports teams, in
the city and its heritage, it's culture, its history, motor City, motown.
I get all that. Why am I leading with this? Well,
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wherever you're from could be there, could be here, you know.
Is it a point of pride for you? And do
you use it as a kind of a lead off
in conversations my brother.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He was shooting a video ad.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
He's director of corporate video for Domino's International, Domino's Pizza
Internationally in urban Michigan, and he was in Compton, California,
and he's wearing.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
A tiger's hat.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
This guy comes up to him and goes, you from Detroit,
and my brother kind of what I was saying, like, well,
he's not going to understand if I tell him I
live in Howell or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, whoa. This guy from Compton was like, this guy's
from Detroit. Got to California. But from a local.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Colloquial standpoint, if you're in the state of Michigan, say hey,
I'm from Detroit. Wait a minute, you from Detroit. Are
you from like Rochester or Oakland County or Auburn Hills
or Birmingham or Troy or you know, are you from
Detroit like Shannon Scott. And the reason I bring this
up is because of this text from yesterday that brought
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this up. AOC just yesterday insulted men from Queens, saying
she eats men from Queens for breakfast. This was in
response to her little tiff with Trump. She represents queens,
she represents queens, and yeah, that did not go over
well with people from that borough.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
There's a lot of rivalry within the five boroughs of
New York and when you look at.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
The post, she says, also, I'm a Bronx girl, you
should know that we can eat Queen's.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Boys for breakfast. Respectfully. Is she a Bronx girl though?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Is she?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I know I'm relying on Wikipedia, but let's go down
this road. Early life in education. Ocassio Cortez was born
in the New York City borough of the Bronx, Okay,
October of nineteen eighty nine. While she's young, thirty five,
the daughter of Sergio Ocassio Roman and Blanca Ocassio Cortes.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
She has a younger brother named Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Her father was born in the Bronx to a Puerto
Rican family and became an architect. I like that sounds
like a cool story. I think I liked her. I
would like her dad. Her mother was born in Puerto Rico, Okay.
The family lived in an apartment in the Bronx neighborhood
of Parkchester until Cassio Cortes was five, when they then
moved to a house in suburban Yorktown Heights. She said
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her family raised enough money to buy a small home
there so she could go to school, and that her
mother worked as a house cleaner in the town. That's fine,
this is an example of the American dream working your
way up. But I'm telling you this right now. And
this is something that Michael Knowles commented on. And you
look at the geography the map of this joint, Michael says,
the town in blue is the suburb I grew up in,
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and it's like, well outside of the five boroughs and
what would be considered New York City. The town in
red is the richer, whiter suburb AOC grew up in
the area in.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
The black circle way down to the bottom is the bronx.
And that is correct.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like if I were to analogize this to my own experience,
I think I would have to say I'm from.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Like Poughkeepsie or something way up outside in New York City.
I grew up.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I was in lived in Brighton and Pinkney and grass Lake,
and these are all well outside of what you considered
even the Detroit metro.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So I can't really say, like, I'm from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And it's this kind of loose affiliation that AOC has.
She's trying to act like this tough gal. And maybe
her dad was a tough guy who was born in
the Bronx and lived there, but he worked his way out.
He pursued the American dream, and more power to him.
But she got to live a much more shall we say,
privileged existence through her childhood in living in the suburban
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Yorktown Heights.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It just sounds nicer, and it is nicer. It is
literally nicer.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So when you say I'm from Blank, is that you
know how accurate does that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Need to be?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That I'm not buying if aoc Bronx when she was five,
She doesn't have any formative memories. She didn't go to
school K through twelve in the Bronx. She is not
of the Bronx any more than I am of Detroit.
Channa's got the street credit. We always knew that about him.
Five seven, seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Let's go to some.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Texts, Eric Manning, You're a great American. Your dead nuts on.
I guess the Democrats and Senator Warren and Senator Sanders
think that the inventory is free, that the billionaires pay
for it and brought over the border and stocked overnight
by the illegal aliens. Eric, That is what this party
has become. They are the party of Martha's Vineyard. You know,
you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
We want you in our country, but only if it's
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at the border, and if it's a Texas border town.
Sucks to be them, But they've got to deal with
the illegals. But if you bust them up here to
Martha's Vineyard within forty eight hours, gonna put him on
a bus and send them over to Cape cod. We're
going to have this middle aged woman with the Jackie
O sunglasses and the straw hat and the single tear
just one tier right down the cheek, just for dramatic effect,
as she clasps her hands together, cries, laughs, applauds. As
these illegals are put back on the bus and get
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them out here. If they're not the help, we don't
want them here. That accurately, to sum it up, I
believe that it does. Don't buy these people and their
crocodile tears, Senator Warren. The way that they speak about
these illegals that come over the border. They want to
establish a permanent underclass that is subservient, independent upon the
Democratic Party for which they can depend on their votes,
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because they're bleeding votes. They're losing votes even in this
New York City mayoral election. If you look under the
hood at what happened here. Here's Larry Kudlow on Fox Business.
He is of a mind, and I think I agree
with them.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Cudlow knows New York a lot better than I do.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That Eric Adams, flawed as he is, and Dan and
I talked about this yesterday, will clobber Mom Donnie in
a general election, especially if Curtis Sliwa if he gets out,
maybe endorses Adams.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
If Pomo stays out.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Doesn't run like as a rogue third party guy or whatever,
and throws his support behind Adams. There is a coalition
that I think can defeat a Democratic Socialist.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Here's Larry Cudlow.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
The numbers are very interesting. You know, he's supposed to
be the candidates I call him Zoro, but he's supposed
to be the candidate of the poor, the downshodden, but
he's not poor. The trouble is that the blacks are
voted for Cuomo by twenty points right, and the poor,
low income people voted for Cuomo by thirteen points, so
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Zoro didn't even get those votes.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Look, this guy's a you know, big.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Anti semi guy, hates Israel. That's going to hurt him
in the general election. All the other stuff, you know,
state run grocery stores. By the way, he can't do
that stuff. It's legislature, we'll do it. But raising taxes
and so forth.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So what is this when you look unto the hood,
it's these boutique issue voters that these people that they
don't have to deal with the monkey muck, and they
don't have to depend on their next paycheck. They can
afford to have these luxury beliefs that make them popular
in social circles, that afford them the virtue signaling of
oh is it to grand.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I support this democratic socialist Islamic candidate who hates Israel
and the poor Palestinians, all of these things that don't
really matter.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But when you look at what does matter, well, Larry
Cubblo just mentions there black voters. He didn't mention Hispanic voters,
low income voters of all races. So supported Cuomo by
large numbers over Mumdani mcdonnie's belief system is a luxury
value system.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh is it wouldn't socialism? We're bored.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Wouldn't socialism be some very curious experiment. Why don't we
just go ahead and see how it goes. It will
not go well. It will end in disaster. It will
end in calamity, It will end in squalor. For New
York City, they will lose much of their tax base
and those who earn, who create jobs on the island
of Manhattan, which ironically voted for Mamdani. The two boroughs
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that did not well Stanton Island, but that's kind of
its own deal.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's a republican island. It's great.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
But you look at the Bronx, interestingly voted for Cuomo
and the breakdown just shows you exactly where the Democratic
Party is, the fissure within it, and why it's there.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
First of all, I think he will lose to Eric Adams,
and the issue will be crime because he wants to
defund the police, right.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
He wants a social worker to come to your door
someone's trying to kill you.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, And I think that's a very big issue in
New York, the issue of crime. And you have, of course,
Eric is the next cop. Eric has done a good
job crime numbers will come down a lot. He put
a lot of cops in the subways.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It feels better. It feels better, I will tell you firsthand,
it feels better.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So all those are pluses. Hopefully Cuomo won't run again.
I don't know why I'd run again. Nobody, I mean,
the voters, Hey Cuomo, I hate him with good reason.
But so hopefully he just drops out. And I think
Eric Adams can clobber this guy if he plays his
cards right. But crime is going to be the big issue.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's what I think, Especially Zoram Donnie the Internet lives forever.
There are posts of his on x they were called
tweets at the time, where he was all about the
defund the police movement. All cops are Bastard's acab. Release
all prisoners. The idea of prison is inherently racist, therefore
they should be freed. I mean, this guy is lunatic,
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fringe type stuff, but it's been absorbed by.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The mainstream of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
The point that I was making earlier, there are very
few endangered species blue dog moderate type Democrats remaining.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
They just don't exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I think Eric Adams actually might be an example of
This is a guy that's gone to the right based
on the issue of illegal aliens and what it costs
to have to support them when they don't have any
kind of input into the economy. And this is what
Arnold Schwarzenegger was talking about of the view, this is
what I talk about is the son of an immigrant.
It is an accord. It is a pact that is made,
and it has to be a bargain. It has to
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be a deal. It has to be a two way street.
Immigrants who come here, legal immigrants who come here to
earn a living wage, that want to contribute to our society,
that want to assimilate to our culture, that want to
salute our American flag, that want to become American citizens,
that want to learn the English language.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That should be.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
The type of immigrant that we welcome with open arms,
because that is the type of immigrant that's going to
improve the economy, that's going to contribute to the success
of a society. Not someone that comes in with their
hands out help me, support me, sustain me. I give
nothing back in return, I promise nothing in return. I
just want to be a dependent on the American government,
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the American taxpayer, Medicaid Medicare, social Security. I'm going to
a fake social Security card. Look at the ledger sheet
on that one. I can see the argument for there
being an investment in immigration, in immigrants doing work.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Maybe we have a.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Shortage supply of certain workers, but we want qualify workers.
We want hard working individuals who will come here and
set up shop and build a family and have a
home and want to be Americans and they have pride
in that that are not just coming here looking for
a handout. We have enough people in our society who
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are drug addled, who suffer from addiction or mental illness
or both, who come back from war. We have disabled
veterans who have trouble getting a job, who have problems
at the VA, who become chemically dependent themselves, who suffer
from mental illness. These should be our priorities in our society.
Are American citizens of all color, shape, sizes, shades, interests, values, background, religions,
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all of it or the United States of America and
our American citizens must be the priority. Not illegals who
come here looking for a short cut and an off ramp,
or they're looking they're just looking for a better way
of life. That's the key word right there, key phrase
way of life, way of life meaning you earn you
come here, you work hard. And in defense of those
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who might come here illegal, they're being taken advantage of.
They are being exploited as the help, as the people
who pick our crops. This is Southern plantation slave owner
mentality that again has found itself oriented on the political left.
As it was back during the Civil War. It was
Southern Democrats who owned slaves. It was Southern Democrats that
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enacted Jim Crow laws. It was Southern Democrats who founded
the Ku Klux Klan. It was Southern Democrats who created
poll taxes and opposed obstructed both the Civil Rights Act
and the Voting Rights Actor of the.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Mid nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Northern Republicans brought that across the finish line. President Johnson himself,
a Southern Democrat from Texas, was the one able to
broker a deal, and that's when that big shift happened
and the Democrats, for whatever reason, got more credit. Republicans
not good at messaging, and all of a sudden, minority
groups both in the South and then the North, started
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turning toward the Democratic Party, the Party of Free Stuff,
as Rush Limbau used to say, and he's right, but
there's a darkness, a dark underbelly the Democratic Party historically
and currently they are advocating openly talking about it on
mainstream media about how we need illegal alien labor for
the economy of California depends on it. We heard Anna
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Navarro talk about that on CNN. We heard Karen Bass,
the mayor of Los Angeles, talk about it. Well, wait
a minute, what are you talking about. What are you
saying here? You're saying that we should be able to
import illegal alien labor, pay them less, pay them cash
under the table, not afford them the full benefits of
the American worker, not allow them to join unions, be
equal contributors, earn equally fair pay because of their fear
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of being deported. So the deal with the devil that
an illegal alien has to make is to go to
these Democrat controlled states, depend on them for their income,
their quote unquote way of life, jobs, et cetera. But
the fine print in that is you're going to have
to accept earning less because where you came from, Outtamala, wherever,
you don't make anywhere near a living wage in America.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But you should just.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Be thankful that we're paying peanuts and again under the table,
and we're doing so at the expense of hiring qualified
American workers. Talking about meat packing plants, that was in
the news over the last couple of weeks. This poor
operator of a meatpacking plant hiring illegals by the way,
paying them cut wages, says, I don't know what the
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game plan is from here. I don't know what the
roadmap is from here. There is no playbook to go
from here. Yeah, here's the playbook, pal. You hire legal workers,
if they are immigrants, they have legal status, they have
green cards. None of this cutting corners crap. Well, in
in what to what end on? That is that for
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the greater good of the illegal aliens who come here,
who are exploited and taken advantage of. Spare me that noise.
That is not compassion, that has opportunism, And these people
are being used as pawns, political pawns in the long
game for the left and the Democratic Party, because they're
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not interested in these people as individuals, as human beings,
as potential American citizens.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That should be the dream.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's what we encourage, That's what I encourage, That's what
I welcome and I celebrate and Arnold if you heard
him talk about this, If you miss this, look it
up online.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
His comments on the View that.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Left Joy behar and the women on the View aghast
because of what he was talking about, which was his
dream as an immigrant to come here and to feel
fortunate enough, lucky enough to be welcomed and embraced by
the United States, to be an American. And what Arnold
is going to do is deliver a speech at Mount
Vernon and have a swearing in ceremony for so many
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become American citizens.
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Speaker 1 (20:14):
Starting off this segment back here in Ryan Schuling Live,
going to Colorado Politics and this just in the news,
reprising it from a couple of weeks ago, but looking
to put a fine point on it and find our
way out of it as a Republican Party in Colorado.
The turbulence continues as Vice chair Daryl Feelin resigned a
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couple of tuesdays ago, calling it quote unacceptable that state
GOP chairwoman Britta Horn allegedly spurned his participation in state
party matters and wanted Feeling to be quote seen not heard.
Feeling continued in an email to state Republicans, saying, quote,
in the seventy two days since the election, I've been
systematically sidelined and deliberately ignored by our chair and declared
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his immediate resignation, continuing quote, despite repeated requests to contribute
to strategy and policy discussions, my only input in quotes,
scare quotes has been to facilitate the dismissal of her
lawsuit and to endorse the hiring of her affiliates. According
to her, I am to be seen not heard, and
that is unacceptable. Well, our next guest, he's right out
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of central casting, Richard Holtorf of course, former minority whip
in the Colorado General Assembly House of Representatives. He's seen
and he's definitely heard. He's not going to be a
church mouse in any of this. And there was this
release and why I reached out to him directly. Very
impressive congressmen, three of them from our state, Jeff Heard,
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Jeff Crank, Gabe evans All, endorsing Richard Holdtorf to be
the next Colorado gop feis chair and he joins us
in Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Richard, welcome back.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Thank you, Ryan, thanks for calling and reaching out to me.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Absolutely always appreciate your time and I know that you
shoot us. So I'm going to ask you directly about
Darryl Feelin. Why didn't it work out with him? What
was the big problem there? As you see it?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Well, I served in the military for twenty nine years
and in the military, they have a command structure. I'm
also in politics, they have a leadership structure. And I
will tell you that when there is a mission and
you have a concept of the operation and you have
a part to play in the mission, the overall mission,
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that you can't be alone wolf. You can't go out
and do your own reconnaissance, do your own target acquisition designation,
do your own engagement of targets outside of in this case,
the larger operation and concept of the operation. You can't
be a lone wolf. You have to be synchronized with
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the operation and do your part. And what my perception
is what I saw and some of the discussions I had,
and I even called Daryl and talked to him. I said,
you have to subordinate to the larger mission and the
vision and the concept of the operation of what the
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leadership is trying to accomplish. And you can't be a
lone wolf. You can't go off on a tangent or
get outside of those boundaries, because then your efforts are
not synchronized, coordinated, and you don't have the best outcomes.
And I think he had a problem with that. You know,
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when you're the vice chair, that's the position and title
that has certain responsibilities. And I'm going to explain to
the listening audience what those are. The first one is
to be present and ready for duty the absence of
the chair. That's the first one. The second one is
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to promote and support the vision and message of the
co GOP collectively, not individually, not what you think want believes,
but what the party is trying to accomplish, wants and believes.
That's where the old staying Ryan the party line comes in.
What is the party line of the new State GOP
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and can you support it or do you want to
go off on your own direction and be your own
agent or change agent and not be a team player.
And I think That's the best answer I can give you,
just from reading the tea leaves and looking from outside
and working with people, trying to help, coach and mentor
them so we can have a team effort. I hope
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that helps.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It does Richard Holdsworth our guest.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I know that you ran for chair as well, Richard,
and you've done a lot of hard work on behalf
of the party in Colorado. You've helped fight an uphill
battle and the General Assembly.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
You know the lay of the land.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
How would you describe your relationship with the current share
Britta horn.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Well, I think we get along very well. We talk,
we have conversations. I actually have been in dialogue and
discussion with her since March. In fact, I helped her
get over the finish line significantly gave her a lift
as I watched what was happening at the last State
Central Committee meeting. Even though I threw my name in
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the hat three weeks before, questioning the validity and the
quality of the leadership and my concerns I made clear.
But now that the committee had made a decision and
voted who they wanted, I'm one hundred and ten percent
behind what the State Central Committee has voted for. That's
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being a team player, and you have to be a
team player if you're going to win a team sport.
And fellow Republicans in this state Colorado lead's lessons politics
is a team sport.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And the joint statement crafted by the three congressmen Jeff Heard,
Jeff Crank, gave Evans, it concludes with the following quote
about Richard our guest, Richard Holtor, if he supports the
Republican team, there's that word and brings the necessary experience
and energy to help the COGP effectively carry our message
of less red tape, lower taxes and fees, better public safety,
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and lower costs of living. We enthusiastically support and endorse
Richard Holtor for Vice Chair of the Colorado Republican Party. Richard,
this is strong support from very credible sources. And Heard,
Crank and Evans, first of all, what does that support.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Say to you and what does it mean to you?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Well, Brian, I was surprised to see that letter. Now
I sit in the fourth congressional district that lower and Bobert,
my congressolan, actually has endorsed another candidate, and I'm not
here to speak about that as a candidate. But when
other congress men of this state in the Republican Party
all collectively reach out and write such a strong letter,
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I was surprised. So what it says to me is
they've watched me five years in the state legislation, They've
watched me in leadership, They've watched the things I'm doing,
and they trust that the quality of leadership and characteristics
that I would bring to the cogop add value. So
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that's what that says to me. What that means to
me is even deeper. Riots. That means that people that
are sitting federal congressman right now know who I am,
know what I'm capable of, and trust me with moving
the party forward. And that's a great responsibility. And I
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can be an equalizer for those in the party that
are one spectrum or the other. I can build bridges.
In fact, the four things that I want to promote
today is unity, team building, honesty, and winning. Winning is everything.
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Look at the Rockies right now. Are they winning? It's everything.
I'm a Rocky fan, but the Rockies are playing terrible
and they're not winning. So we have to be winners.
Colorado demands winners. Our NBA sports team the Nuggets, winners,
the Broncos. We demand winners in our sports teams in
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this state. Well, guess what, the Colorado GOP under my
leadership will also demand winners and work towards winning. So
for all the picturing in fighting and all the backstabbing
and all the little things that have nothing to do
with winning, my goal is to wash all that away
and say, hey, we need to win so we can
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help Colorado be more affordable, have less sees, less property tax,
less cost of living, so we can lift ourselves up.
Less red tape and regulations, safer communities. We can address
those problems that we have head on, being kind and careful,
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but make serious efforts and policy changes to address those issues.
Here's the one thing I want to point out. It's
not the state GOP's job to create policy or promote
policy directly. Our job is to get candidates to win, good, strong,
Republican candidates that can meet the needs of Colorado citizens.
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Those candidates who win and become legislators or governors or
legenic governors, whatever position of authority, and whatever branch and government,
the legislative or executive branch, they're the ones that do policy.
There's a very clear distinction between who does policy and
who works to get candidates elected. And I clearly understand
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that mission, and that's what I'm gonna promote unity. Let's
build our Let's build bridges, not burn bridges. Let's build
team building. And that's even across lines. That's into my
friends that are Democrats, that's into the inaffiliateds that have
left our party and said, you guys are a bunch
of screwballs. You're so dysfunctional. I don't want to be
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around you. We're gonna change that, and we're gonna be
honest brokers, We're gonna be transparent, and we're gonna win again.
We're gonna make Colorado win again. And that's the mantra
in the torch that I carry, sir.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
It's the bottom line, a pragmatic, practical approach with priorities
based in principle. And I could not agree more with
Richard Holdtorf. You gotta win, you gotta win to enact
these policies in any way, shape, matter of form. And
Richard Holdtorf, a candidate for Colorado's next GOP vice chair,
endorsed by three members of Congress, Jeff Heard, Jeff crank
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and gave Evans and reason enough to have him on
the show to have that conversation day real quick, Richard,
when will this determination be made? So?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
The Colorado GOP State Central Committee has been called for
the twenty first of July. It will be a meeting
that will be held. I believe it's going to be
a virtual meeting, which is kind of the direction that
everything's going now. And those State Central Committee members, that's
over four hundred of them, all across the state, from
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every county in the state, including state elected officials and
federal elected officials, county chairs, vice chairs, secretaries, and those
bonus members and districts and those districts, they will all
convene and there will be an open and fair and
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transparent election so those delegates can pick the best, most qualified,
best qualified candidate. And I truly believe I'm that person,
and so do those three congressmen.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
As issued in that statement today, Richard, where can people
find you online?
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Well? I have an email holdshort fo r Colorado at
gmail dot com, holdsorp for Colorado at gmail dot com.
I had suspended my website. I ran for Congress in
twenty twenty four and was defeated by Lauren Bobert in
the primary. So I suspended that website and I'm going
to have to build that back up again. But I
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don't know if I'm even going to do that because
I don't need to be my own platform. I need
to mess and fall under in this role under the
state GOP and work behind the scenes to get good
candidates elected to help support the Colorado citizens in this
state to have a better life. So you know, I'm
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not sure I'm going to start up a website, but
please reach out to my email and I will answer
your questions. I will converse with you, and I'll even
call you if you want me to call you. And
my phone number for anybody that wants to call. And
I've done this every time we've been on the radio. YEP,
A few people who call, but not many, surprising day
as nine seven zero five two zero zero zero one two.
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I'm an open book. You can call me anytime twenty
four to seven. We'll talk, we can visit. We can
meet for lunch at Akrom Colorado at my favorite diner
or Otis, Colorado at my favorite diner, and we can
sit down and talk about anything and everything under the sun, looking.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Forward to that.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I am privileged to have these conversations with I'm always
generous with his time. Richard Hultur potentially the next Colorado
GOP vice chair. Richard, thanks for joining us on your drive.
We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Thank you, sir very much.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right, and once again you can reach out to him.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I'm going to give out the phe nuber because he
did nine to seven zero five two zero double zero
one zero or via email whole tour h O L
t O R F four F O R Colorado at
gmail dot com. Rapping it all up on Ryan Schuling
Live on this Thursday after this sprinting toward the finisher.
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Thanks to Richard Holdtorf for joining us on the previous segment.
He has the endorsement of three out of four Congress
members that are of the Republican Party here in Colorado
and Crank, Hurd and Evans, and he will be a
formidable candidate that'll be decided on Monday, July twenty one.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
He tells me so about a month from right now
to the.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Text five seven seven three nine, Ryan, John R and Brush, Well,
we're along those two streets which are parallel to one another.
Are you talking, because yeah, that's Detroit. Anything south of
eight mile is Eminem instructed us in his biopic self
titled Ryan, We would understand if you want to say
you were born and raised in South Detroit hashtag journey,
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even though we all know that would be windsor geographically.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You're right. But I think you know.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
My mom's stepdad worked at Zug Island in a plant there,
and she was raised an e course in.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
A river rouge down river.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
They call it but man southwest Detroit, I guess technically,
but they considered themselves south of Detroit. So I guess
it's just all in how you perceive it. That'll do
it for me from here for now, Stay tuned. The
Dan Kaplas Show is next. My thanks to Shannon Scott
the Detroit Connection four straight days. I think that's a record.
I'm grateful for it and for his service to this program.
I'll talk to you tomorrow right back here on RSL
When you're talking to somebody that you've just met, where
do you tell them that you're from?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You know, where do you live?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Like for me, I live in Greenwood Village, But for
people outside of the Denver metro that might not mean anything.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So you might say, in my case that I'm from Denver,
I live in Denver. I don't live in Denver. Thank God.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
The taxes and everything else the crime. I love Greenwood Village.
A lot of people don't know what that is when
I say that. The people back home Michigan, you live
at Greenfield Village. No, No, I don't. It's Greenwood Village here.
And I really took a long time in adapting to
that from where I originate, which is Michigan, and back
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then living in southeastern Lower Michigan. There was an ad
campaign on WXYZ Channel seven, this isn't the wake of
so you had riots in the late sixties after the
assassination of Martin Luther King. A lot of Detroit burned
and there was something called white flight. And Shannon's old
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enough to remember this, because Shannon, when you tell people
where were from, and you say Detroit, like you're from Detroit, right, Yeah,
I was Green Field and Joy. Yeah, see, Okay got
the streets down and everything. But as Shannon Well knows,
after the Riots, everything cleared out. Detroit got real ugly
and it became the butt of jokes punchlines for years
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and the late night shows, and they deserved a lot
of it. There was this thing called Devil's Night. I'm
not sure if they have it around here, but that
is the night before Halloween and there would be a
lot of fire, fiery but mostly peaceful destruction of property,
arson and so forth, and buildings would be burned out,
and this was a yearly news story on Detroit television. Anyway,
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in the wake of all this, in the seventies are
very dark, dismal days. You know, Jimmy Hoffe gets kidnapp
probably murdered as well in metro Detroit. And in the
eighties wasn't a whole lot better. My mom wasn't real
comfortable with me going downtown Detroit for a night game
at Tiger Stadium the corner of Michigan and Trumbull, just
because of the reputation of Detroit and how bad it
had gotten. It got really bad even under Gil Hill,
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Detroit police chief, who was prominently featured in Beverly Hills
Cop that gave Detroit a point of pride Axel Foley
Eddie Murphy, one of the biggest hit summer movies.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Of the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Nineteen eighty four, Beverly Hills Cop in comes this hardened
Detroit cop detective into Beverly Hills And isn't this funny
kind of fish out of water? Yes, it's very funny,
the juxtaposition of Detroit to Beverly Hills and how they
do things. But you have to be street smart in Detroit.
And this TV ad campaign was stand up and tell
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him You're from Detroit. Stand up and tell him You're
from Detroit. It was a song and it was a
jingle and it stuck with mail little kid. And I
guess I was so naive as a little kid. I
had pride in Detroit and my Detroit sports teams, in
the city and its heritage, it's culture, its history, motor City, motown.
I get all that. Why am I leading with this? Well,
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wherever you're from could be there, could be here, you know.
Is it a point of pride for you? And do
you use it as a kind of a lead off
in conversations my brother.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
He was shooting a video ad.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
He's director of corporate video for Domino's International, Domino's Pizza
Internationally in urban Michigan, and he was in Compton, California,
and he's wearing.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
A tiger's hat.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
This guy comes up to him and goes, you from Detroit,
and my brother kind of what I was saying, like, well,
he's not going to understand if I tell him I
live in Howell or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, whoa. This guy from Compton was like, this guy's
from Detroit. Got to California. But from a local.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Colloquial standpoint, if you're in the state of Michigan, say hey,
I'm from Detroit. Wait a minute, you from Detroit. Are
you from like Rochester or Oakland County or Auburn Hills
or Birmingham or Troy or you know, are you from
Detroit like Shannon Scott. And the reason I bring this
up is because of this text from yesterday that brought
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this up. AOC just yesterday insulted men from Queens, saying
she eats men from Queens for breakfast. This was in
response to her little tiff with Trump. She represents queens,
she represents queens, and yeah, that did not go over
well with people from that borough.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
There's a lot of rivalry within the five boroughs of
New York and when you look at.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
The post, she says, also, I'm a Bronx girl, you
should know that we can eat Queen's.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Boys for breakfast. Respectfully. Is she a Bronx girl though?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Is she?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I know I'm relying on Wikipedia, but let's go down
this road. Early life in education. Ocassio Cortez was born
in the New York City borough of the Bronx, Okay,
October of nineteen eighty nine. While she's young, thirty five,
the daughter of Sergio Ocassio Roman and Blanca Ocassio Cortes.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
She has a younger brother named Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Her father was born in the Bronx to a Puerto
Rican family and became an architect. I like that sounds
like a cool story. I think I liked her. I
would like her dad. Her mother was born in Puerto Rico, Okay.
The family lived in an apartment in the Bronx neighborhood
of Parkchester until Cassio Cortes was five, when they then
moved to a house in suburban Yorktown Heights. She said
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her family raised enough money to buy a small home
there so she could go to school, and that her
mother worked as a house cleaner in the town. That's fine,
this is an example of the American dream working your
way up. But I'm telling you this right now. And
this is something that Michael Knowles commented on. And you
look at the geography the map of this joint, Michael says,
the town in blue is the suburb I grew up in,
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and it's like, well outside of the five boroughs and
what would be considered New York City. The town in
red is the richer, whiter suburb AOC grew up in
the area in.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
The black circle way down to the bottom is the bronx.
And that is correct.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like if I were to analogize this to my own experience,
I think I would have to say I'm from.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Like Poughkeepsie or something way up outside in New York City.
I grew up.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I was in lived in Brighton and Pinkney and grass Lake,
and these are all well outside of what you considered
even the Detroit metro.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So I can't really say, like, I'm from Detroit.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
And it's this kind of loose affiliation that AOC has.
She's trying to act like this tough gal. And maybe
her dad was a tough guy who was born in
the Bronx and lived there, but he worked his way out.
He pursued the American dream, and more power to him.
But she got to live a much more shall we say,
privileged existence through her childhood in living in the suburban
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Yorktown Heights.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It just sounds nicer, and it is nicer. It is
literally nicer.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So when you say I'm from Blank, is that you
know how accurate does that.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Need to be?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That I'm not buying if aoc Bronx when she was five,
She doesn't have any formative memories. She didn't go to
school K through twelve in the Bronx. She is not
of the Bronx any more than I am of Detroit.
Channa's got the street credit. We always knew that about him.
Five seven, seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Let's go to some.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Texts, Eric Manning, You're a great American. Your dead nuts on.
I guess the Democrats and Senator Warren and Senator Sanders
think that the inventory is free, that the billionaires pay
for it and brought over the border and stocked overnight
by the illegal aliens. Eric, That is what this party
has become. They are the party of Martha's Vineyard. You know,
you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
We want you in our country, but only if it's
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at the border, and if it's a Texas border town.
Sucks to be them, But they've got to deal with
the illegals. But if you bust them up here to
Martha's Vineyard within forty eight hours, gonna put him on
a bus and send them over to Cape cod. We're
going to have this middle aged woman with the Jackie
O sunglasses and the straw hat and the single tear
just one tier right down the cheek, just for dramatic effect,
as she clasps her hands together, cries, laughs, applauds. As
these illegals are put back on the bus and get
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them out here. If they're not the help, we don't
want them here. That accurately, to sum it up, I
believe that it does. Don't buy these people and their
crocodile tears, Senator Warren. The way that they speak about
these illegals that come over the border. They want to
establish a permanent underclass that is subservient, independent upon the
Democratic Party for which they can depend on their votes,
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because they're bleeding votes. They're losing votes even in this
New York City mayoral election. If you look under the
hood at what happened here. Here's Larry Kudlow on Fox Business.
He is of a mind, and I think I agree
with them.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Cudlow knows New York a lot better than I do.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That Eric Adams, flawed as he is, and Dan and
I talked about this yesterday, will clobber Mom Donnie in
a general election, especially if Curtis Sliwa if he gets out,
maybe endorses Adams.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
If Pomo stays out.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Doesn't run like as a rogue third party guy or whatever,
and throws his support behind Adams. There is a coalition
that I think can defeat a Democratic Socialist.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Here's Larry Cudlow.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
The numbers are very interesting. You know, he's supposed to
be the candidates I call him Zoro, but he's supposed
to be the candidate of the poor, the downshodden, but
he's not poor. The trouble is that the blacks are
voted for Cuomo by twenty points right, and the poor,
low income people voted for Cuomo by thirteen points, so
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Zoro didn't even get those votes.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Look, this guy's a you know, big.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Anti semi guy, hates Israel. That's going to hurt him
in the general election. All the other stuff, you know,
state run grocery stores. By the way, he can't do
that stuff. It's legislature, we'll do it. But raising taxes
and so forth.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So what is this when you look unto the hood,
it's these boutique issue voters that these people that they
don't have to deal with the monkey muck, and they
don't have to depend on their next paycheck. They can
afford to have these luxury beliefs that make them popular
in social circles, that afford them the virtue signaling of
oh is it to grand.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I support this democratic socialist Islamic candidate who hates Israel
and the poor Palestinians, all of these things that don't
really matter.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But when you look at what does matter, well, Larry
Cubblo just mentions there black voters. He didn't mention Hispanic voters,
low income voters of all races. So supported Cuomo by
large numbers over Mumdani mcdonnie's belief system is a luxury
value system.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh is it wouldn't socialism? We're bored.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Wouldn't socialism be some very curious experiment. Why don't we
just go ahead and see how it goes. It will
not go well. It will end in disaster. It will
end in calamity, It will end in squalor. For New
York City, they will lose much of their tax base
and those who earn, who create jobs on the island
of Manhattan, which ironically voted for Mamdani. The two boroughs
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that did not well Stanton Island, but that's kind of
its own deal.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's a republican island. It's great.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
But you look at the Bronx, interestingly voted for Cuomo
and the breakdown just shows you exactly where the Democratic
Party is, the fissure within it, and why it's there.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
First of all, I think he will lose to Eric Adams,
and the issue will be crime because he wants to
defund the police, right.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
He wants a social worker to come to your door
someone's trying to kill you.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, And I think that's a very big issue in
New York, the issue of crime. And you have, of course,
Eric is the next cop. Eric has done a good
job crime numbers will come down a lot. He put
a lot of cops in the subways.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
It feels better. It feels better, I will tell you firsthand,
it feels better.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So all those are pluses. Hopefully Cuomo won't run again.
I don't know why I'd run again. Nobody, I mean,
the voters, Hey Cuomo, I hate him with good reason.
But so hopefully he just drops out. And I think
Eric Adams can clobber this guy if he plays his
cards right. But crime is going to be the big issue.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's what I think, Especially Zoram Donnie the Internet lives forever.
There are posts of his on x they were called
tweets at the time, where he was all about the
defund the police movement. All cops are Bastard's acab. Release
all prisoners. The idea of prison is inherently racist, therefore
they should be freed. I mean, this guy is lunatic,
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fringe type stuff, but it's been absorbed by.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The mainstream of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
The point that I was making earlier, there are very
few endangered species blue dog moderate type Democrats remaining.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
They just don't exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I think Eric Adams actually might be an example of
This is a guy that's gone to the right based
on the issue of illegal aliens and what it costs
to have to support them when they don't have any
kind of input into the economy. And this is what
Arnold Schwarzenegger was talking about of the view, this is
what I talk about is the son of an immigrant.
It is an accord. It is a pact that is made,
and it has to be a bargain. It has to
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be a deal. It has to be a two way street.
Immigrants who come here, legal immigrants who come here to
earn a living wage, that want to contribute to our society,
that want to assimilate to our culture, that want to
salute our American flag, that want to become American citizens,
that want to learn the English language.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
That should be.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
The type of immigrant that we welcome with open arms,
because that is the type of immigrant that's going to
improve the economy, that's going to contribute to the success
of a society. Not someone that comes in with their
hands out help me, support me, sustain me. I give
nothing back in return, I promise nothing in return. I
just want to be a dependent on the American government,
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the American taxpayer, Medicaid Medicare, social Security. I'm going to
a fake social Security card. Look at the ledger sheet
on that one. I can see the argument for there
being an investment in immigration, in immigrants doing work.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Maybe we have a.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Shortage supply of certain workers, but we want qualify workers.
We want hard working individuals who will come here and
set up shop and build a family and have a
home and want to be Americans and they have pride
in that that are not just coming here looking for
a handout. We have enough people in our society who
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are drug addled, who suffer from addiction or mental illness
or both, who come back from war. We have disabled
veterans who have trouble getting a job, who have problems
at the VA, who become chemically dependent themselves, who suffer
from mental illness. These should be our priorities in our society.
Are American citizens of all color, shape, sizes, shades, interests, values, background, religions,
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all of it or the United States of America and
our American citizens must be the priority. Not illegals who
come here looking for a short cut and an off ramp,
or they're looking they're just looking for a better way
of life. That's the key word right there, key phrase
way of life, way of life meaning you earn you
come here, you work hard. And in defense of those
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who might come here illegal, they're being taken advantage of.
They are being exploited as the help, as the people
who pick our crops. This is Southern plantation slave owner
mentality that again has found itself oriented on the political left.
As it was back during the Civil War. It was
Southern Democrats who owned slaves. It was Southern Democrats that
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enacted Jim Crow laws. It was Southern Democrats who founded
the Ku Klux Klan. It was Southern Democrats who created
poll taxes and opposed obstructed both the Civil Rights Act
and the Voting Rights Actor of the.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Mid nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Northern Republicans brought that across the finish line. President Johnson himself,
a Southern Democrat from Texas, was the one able to
broker a deal, and that's when that big shift happened
and the Democrats, for whatever reason, got more credit. Republicans
not good at messaging, and all of a sudden, minority
groups both in the South and then the North, started
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turning toward the Democratic Party, the Party of Free Stuff,
as Rush Limbau used to say, and he's right, but
there's a darkness, a dark underbelly the Democratic Party historically
and currently they are advocating openly talking about it on
mainstream media about how we need illegal alien labor for
the economy of California depends on it. We heard Anna
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Navarro talk about that on CNN. We heard Karen Bass,
the mayor of Los Angeles, talk about it. Well, wait
a minute, what are you talking about. What are you
saying here? You're saying that we should be able to
import illegal alien labor, pay them less, pay them cash
under the table, not afford them the full benefits of
the American worker, not allow them to join unions, be
equal contributors, earn equally fair pay because of their fear
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of being deported. So the deal with the devil that
an illegal alien has to make is to go to
these Democrat controlled states, depend on them for their income,
their quote unquote way of life, jobs, et cetera. But
the fine print in that is you're going to have
to accept earning less because where you came from, Outtamala, wherever,
you don't make anywhere near a living wage in America.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But you should just.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Be thankful that we're paying peanuts and again under the table,
and we're doing so at the expense of hiring qualified
American workers. Talking about meat packing plants, that was in
the news over the last couple of weeks. This poor
operator of a meatpacking plant hiring illegals by the way,
paying them cut wages, says, I don't know what the
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game plan is from here. I don't know what the
roadmap is from here. There is no playbook to go
from here. Yeah, here's the playbook, pal. You hire legal workers,
if they are immigrants, they have legal status, they have
green cards. None of this cutting corners crap. Well, in
in what to what end on? That is that for
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the greater good of the illegal aliens who come here,
who are exploited and taken advantage of. Spare me that noise.
That is not compassion, that has opportunism, And these people
are being used as pawns, political pawns in the long
game for the left and the Democratic Party, because they're
(18:08):
not interested in these people as individuals, as human beings,
as potential American citizens.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That should be the dream.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That's what we encourage, That's what I encourage, That's what
I welcome and I celebrate and Arnold if you heard
him talk about this, If you miss this, look it
up online.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
His comments on the View that.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Left Joy behar and the women on the View aghast
because of what he was talking about, which was his
dream as an immigrant to come here and to feel
fortunate enough, lucky enough to be welcomed and embraced by
the United States, to be an American. And what Arnold
is going to do is deliver a speech at Mount
Vernon and have a swearing in ceremony for so many
(18:49):
immigrants to come to this country and do what to
become American citizens.
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Speaker 1 (20:14):
Starting off this segment back here in Ryan Schuling Live,
going to Colorado Politics and this just in the news,
reprising it from a couple of weeks ago, but looking
to put a fine point on it and find our
way out of it as a Republican Party in Colorado.
The turbulence continues as Vice chair Daryl Feelin resigned a
(20:35):
couple of tuesdays ago, calling it quote unacceptable that state
GOP chairwoman Britta Horn allegedly spurned his participation in state
party matters and wanted Feeling to be quote seen not heard.
Feeling continued in an email to state Republicans, saying, quote,
in the seventy two days since the election, I've been
systematically sidelined and deliberately ignored by our chair and declared
(21:00):
his immediate resignation, continuing quote, despite repeated requests to contribute
to strategy and policy discussions, my only input in quotes,
scare quotes has been to facilitate the dismissal of her
lawsuit and to endorse the hiring of her affiliates. According
to her, I am to be seen not heard, and
that is unacceptable. Well, our next guest, he's right out
(21:23):
of central casting, Richard Holtorf of course, former minority whip
in the Colorado General Assembly House of Representatives. He's seen
and he's definitely heard. He's not going to be a
church mouse in any of this. And there was this
release and why I reached out to him directly. Very
impressive congressmen, three of them from our state, Jeff Heard,
(21:43):
Jeff Crank, Gabe evans All, endorsing Richard Holdtorf to be
the next Colorado gop feis chair and he joins us
in Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Richard, welcome back.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Thank you, Ryan, thanks for calling and reaching out to me.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Absolutely always appreciate your time and I know that you
shoot us. So I'm going to ask you directly about
Darryl Feelin. Why didn't it work out with him? What
was the big problem there? As you see it?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Well, I served in the military for twenty nine years
and in the military, they have a command structure. I'm
also in politics, they have a leadership structure. And I
will tell you that when there is a mission and
you have a concept of the operation and you have
a part to play in the mission, the overall mission,
(22:32):
that you can't be alone wolf. You can't go out
and do your own reconnaissance, do your own target acquisition designation,
do your own engagement of targets outside of in this case,
the larger operation and concept of the operation. You can't
be a lone wolf. You have to be synchronized with
(22:54):
the operation and do your part. And what my perception
is what I saw and some of the discussions I had,
and I even called Daryl and talked to him. I said,
you have to subordinate to the larger mission and the
vision and the concept of the operation of what the
(23:16):
leadership is trying to accomplish. And you can't be a
lone wolf. You can't go off on a tangent or
get outside of those boundaries, because then your efforts are
not synchronized, coordinated, and you don't have the best outcomes.
And I think he had a problem with that. You know,
(23:39):
when you're the vice chair, that's the position and title
that has certain responsibilities. And I'm going to explain to
the listening audience what those are. The first one is
to be present and ready for duty the absence of
the chair. That's the first one. The second one is
(23:59):
to promote and support the vision and message of the
co GOP collectively, not individually, not what you think want believes,
but what the party is trying to accomplish, wants and believes.
That's where the old staying Ryan the party line comes in.
What is the party line of the new State GOP
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and can you support it or do you want to
go off on your own direction and be your own
agent or change agent and not be a team player.
And I think That's the best answer I can give you,
just from reading the tea leaves and looking from outside
and working with people, trying to help, coach and mentor
them so we can have a team effort. I hope
(24:43):
that helps.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It does Richard Holdsworth our guest.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I know that you ran for chair as well, Richard,
and you've done a lot of hard work on behalf
of the party in Colorado. You've helped fight an uphill
battle and the General Assembly.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
You know the lay of the land.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
How would you describe your relationship with the current share
Britta horn.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Well, I think we get along very well. We talk,
we have conversations. I actually have been in dialogue and
discussion with her since March. In fact, I helped her
get over the finish line significantly gave her a lift
as I watched what was happening at the last State
Central Committee meeting. Even though I threw my name in
(25:26):
the hat three weeks before, questioning the validity and the
quality of the leadership and my concerns I made clear.
But now that the committee had made a decision and
voted who they wanted, I'm one hundred and ten percent
behind what the State Central Committee has voted for. That's
(25:46):
being a team player, and you have to be a
team player if you're going to win a team sport.
And fellow Republicans in this state Colorado lead's lessons politics
is a team sport.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
And the joint statement crafted by the three congressmen Jeff Heard,
Jeff Crank, gave Evans, it concludes with the following quote
about Richard our guest, Richard Holtor, if he supports the
Republican team, there's that word and brings the necessary experience
and energy to help the COGP effectively carry our message
of less red tape, lower taxes and fees, better public safety,
(26:21):
and lower costs of living. We enthusiastically support and endorse
Richard Holtor for Vice Chair of the Colorado Republican Party. Richard,
this is strong support from very credible sources. And Heard,
Crank and Evans, first of all, what does that support.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Say to you and what does it mean to you?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Well, Brian, I was surprised to see that letter. Now
I sit in the fourth congressional district that lower and Bobert,
my congressolan, actually has endorsed another candidate, and I'm not
here to speak about that as a candidate. But when
other congress men of this state in the Republican Party
all collectively reach out and write such a strong letter,
(27:04):
I was surprised. So what it says to me is
they've watched me five years in the state legislation, They've
watched me in leadership, They've watched the things I'm doing,
and they trust that the quality of leadership and characteristics
that I would bring to the cogop add value. So
(27:26):
that's what that says to me. What that means to
me is even deeper. Riots. That means that people that
are sitting federal congressman right now know who I am,
know what I'm capable of, and trust me with moving
the party forward. And that's a great responsibility. And I
(27:49):
can be an equalizer for those in the party that
are one spectrum or the other. I can build bridges.
In fact, the four things that I want to promote
today is unity, team building, honesty, and winning. Winning is everything.
(28:10):
Look at the Rockies right now. Are they winning? It's everything.
I'm a Rocky fan, but the Rockies are playing terrible
and they're not winning. So we have to be winners.
Colorado demands winners. Our NBA sports team the Nuggets, winners,
the Broncos. We demand winners in our sports teams in
(28:33):
this state. Well, guess what, the Colorado GOP under my
leadership will also demand winners and work towards winning. So
for all the picturing in fighting and all the backstabbing
and all the little things that have nothing to do
with winning, my goal is to wash all that away
and say, hey, we need to win so we can
(28:56):
help Colorado be more affordable, have less sees, less property tax,
less cost of living, so we can lift ourselves up.
Less red tape and regulations, safer communities. We can address
those problems that we have head on, being kind and careful,
(29:20):
but make serious efforts and policy changes to address those issues.
Here's the one thing I want to point out. It's
not the state GOP's job to create policy or promote
policy directly. Our job is to get candidates to win, good, strong,
Republican candidates that can meet the needs of Colorado citizens.
(29:44):
Those candidates who win and become legislators or governors or
legenic governors, whatever position of authority, and whatever branch and government,
the legislative or executive branch, they're the ones that do policy.
There's a very clear distinction between who does policy and
who works to get candidates elected. And I clearly understand
(30:07):
that mission, and that's what I'm gonna promote unity. Let's
build our Let's build bridges, not burn bridges. Let's build
team building. And that's even across lines. That's into my
friends that are Democrats, that's into the inaffiliateds that have
left our party and said, you guys are a bunch
of screwballs. You're so dysfunctional. I don't want to be
(30:29):
around you. We're gonna change that, and we're gonna be
honest brokers, We're gonna be transparent, and we're gonna win again.
We're gonna make Colorado win again. And that's the mantra
in the torch that I carry, sir.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
It's the bottom line, a pragmatic, practical approach with priorities
based in principle. And I could not agree more with
Richard Holdtorf. You gotta win, you gotta win to enact
these policies in any way, shape, matter of form. And
Richard Holdtorf, a candidate for Colorado's next GOP vice chair,
endorsed by three members of Congress, Jeff Heard, Jeff crank
(31:04):
and gave Evans and reason enough to have him on
the show to have that conversation day real quick, Richard,
when will this determination be made? So?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
The Colorado GOP State Central Committee has been called for
the twenty first of July. It will be a meeting
that will be held. I believe it's going to be
a virtual meeting, which is kind of the direction that
everything's going now. And those State Central Committee members, that's
over four hundred of them, all across the state, from
(31:36):
every county in the state, including state elected officials and
federal elected officials, county chairs, vice chairs, secretaries, and those
bonus members and districts and those districts, they will all
convene and there will be an open and fair and
(31:56):
transparent election so those delegates can pick the best, most qualified,
best qualified candidate. And I truly believe I'm that person,
and so do those three congressmen.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
As issued in that statement today, Richard, where can people
find you online?
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Well? I have an email holdshort fo r Colorado at
gmail dot com, holdsorp for Colorado at gmail dot com.
I had suspended my website. I ran for Congress in
twenty twenty four and was defeated by Lauren Bobert in
the primary. So I suspended that website and I'm going
to have to build that back up again. But I
(32:36):
don't know if I'm even going to do that because
I don't need to be my own platform. I need
to mess and fall under in this role under the
state GOP and work behind the scenes to get good
candidates elected to help support the Colorado citizens in this
state to have a better life. So you know, I'm
(32:56):
not sure I'm going to start up a website, but
please reach out to my email and I will answer
your questions. I will converse with you, and I'll even
call you if you want me to call you. And
my phone number for anybody that wants to call. And
I've done this every time we've been on the radio. YEP,
A few people who call, but not many, surprising day
as nine seven zero five two zero zero zero one two.
(33:21):
I'm an open book. You can call me anytime twenty
four to seven. We'll talk, we can visit. We can
meet for lunch at Akrom Colorado at my favorite diner
or Otis, Colorado at my favorite diner, and we can
sit down and talk about anything and everything under the sun, looking.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Forward to that.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I am privileged to have these conversations with I'm always
generous with his time. Richard Hultur potentially the next Colorado
GOP vice chair. Richard, thanks for joining us on your drive.
We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Thank you, sir very much.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right, and once again you can reach out to him.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I'm going to give out the phe nuber because he
did nine to seven zero five two zero double zero
one zero or via email whole tour h O L
t O R F four F O R Colorado at
gmail dot com. Rapping it all up on Ryan Schuling
Live on this Thursday after this sprinting toward the finisher.
(34:14):
Thanks to Richard Holdtorf for joining us on the previous segment.
He has the endorsement of three out of four Congress
members that are of the Republican Party here in Colorado
and Crank, Hurd and Evans, and he will be a
formidable candidate that'll be decided on Monday, July twenty one.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
He tells me so about a month from right now
to the.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Text five seven seven three nine, Ryan, John R and Brush, Well,
we're along those two streets which are parallel to one another.
Are you talking, because yeah, that's Detroit. Anything south of
eight mile is Eminem instructed us in his biopic self
titled Ryan, We would understand if you want to say
you were born and raised in South Detroit hashtag journey,
(34:54):
even though we all know that would be windsor geographically.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You're right. But I think you know.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
My mom's stepdad worked at Zug Island in a plant there,
and she was raised an e course in.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
A river rouge down river.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
They call it but man southwest Detroit, I guess technically,
but they considered themselves south of Detroit. So I guess
it's just all in how you perceive it. That'll do
it for me from here for now, Stay tuned. The
Dan Kaplas Show is next. My thanks to Shannon Scott
the Detroit Connection four straight days. I think that's a record.
I'm grateful for it and for his service to this program.
I'll talk to you tomorrow right back here on RSL
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