Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO) oddly mentions Trump voters in rural 'red' Colorado in his opposition to Republican-led cuts to waste, fraud, and abuse in Medicaid in an obvious on-ramp to his candidacy for governor.
Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) clarifies the 'big, beautiful bill' and sets the record straight with Jake Tapper on CNN, stating that able-bodied young Americans should be working and not living off the government dime on Medicaid.
Shannon Adcock is an 'uncancellable Mom' and advocate who sued Governor J.B. Pritzker in a lawsuit where parents won due process for Illinois kids. She also founded the organization 'Awake Illinois,' fighting 'woke' policies in the state and protecting parental rights.
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She joins to comment on a recent controversy in Naperville, Illinois centering around a biological male beating out 7th grade girls, winning medals in multiple events at a recent track meet.
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Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) clarifies the 'big, beautiful bill' and sets the record straight with Jake Tapper on CNN, stating that able-bodied young Americans should be working and not living off the government dime on Medicaid.
Shannon Adcock is an 'uncancellable Mom' and advocate who sued Governor J.B. Pritzker in a lawsuit where parents won due process for Illinois kids. She also founded the organization 'Awake Illinois,' fighting 'woke' policies in the state and protecting parental rights.
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She joins to comment on a recent controversy in Naperville, Illinois centering around a biological male beating out 7th grade girls, winning medals in multiple events at a recent track meet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Then why do you have gender specific plans if you're
not supporting that child. So the plans that the district
has when a student goes to a teacher and shares
that they want to be a different name and go
by different pronouns and use a different bathroom, where there's
the gender specific plan that's actually documented within the district,
(00:21):
so that there's documentation that the staff will be calling
this child by their their intended pronouns. So with these plans,
doesn't that go opposite to what you just said, No, okay,
sow because.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
The kid has rights to.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And then when their teachers are telling them that one
student is now a different gender and they're going to
go by different pronouns, and then that isn't communicated to
the parents at home, and then you know, for example,
my daughter says, well, I don't know what to do
when I see him in public because they told us
(01:03):
that his parents don't know, and so I don't know
if I have to call him a hymn or her.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And I'm like, well, do you feel.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Like you have to lie? And she's like yeah, So
they're teaching my kid that she has to lie in
the community.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's a concerned mother and the brief interlude of the
voice that you heard about kids have rights too was
Jennifer Perry. She is the deputy superintendent of Cherry Creek Schools,
admitting that is the policy of the school district that
they hide the children's gender transitions from their parents.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It is not up to the school to.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Come between a parent and his or her child, and
especially when it comes to matters personal matters of sexual identity.
Of medical care that may or may not be administered
until said minor reaches the age of eighteen or has
been declared eancipated from his or her parents, then yes,
(02:03):
the parents can and should have the right to make
decisions about his or her child's healthcare. If you even
want to put gender affirming care under the umbrella of healthcare,
which I do not, it is frank and science. It
is experimentation on the lines of Joseph Mengela in Nazi Germany.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
That's not an exaggeration. I saw a photo over the.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Weekend posted by my friend Aaron Lee, and if you
really see what happens in these so called gender reassignment surgeries,
I think it would be less than five percent of
the populace that would support it, even here in Colorado,
because it's absurd, it's ridiculous. I'm going to use some
(02:51):
graphic language here. It won't be like RX rated for
FCC purposes, but it might be a little alarming. But
that's because it needs to be said. When you recreate
a phony phallis out of a portion of a young
person's forearm or inner thigh, and you construct a penis,
(03:12):
it is not functional. It doesn't look like the real deal,
it doesn't operate like the real deal. It is simply
a prosthetic, basically attachment that shows in the.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Pants of an individual. Oh, that person may be male.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's not scientific, not in the true form of science.
It's not recreating an organ, say the way that we
are doing with certain forms of gene therapy and DNA
replication and stem cell research, where we're trying to recreate organs,
and there's an ethical question about that and in what
(03:47):
cells do you use? Must it come from aborted fetal tissue?
Can you use adult stem cells? That's a whole different
area of conversation, but that what we're describing. The male
genitation is a very complex organ same thing goes with
the female gender. Organs inside fallopian tubes, ovaries, the entire
(04:08):
apparatus that, to my knowledge, cannot be reconstituted, cannot be
created in a laboratory that's operational.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So what you're essentially saying is we're.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Going to somehow kind of patch work our way through
this gender identity. Give you a part that doesn't really work,
give you a lifelong series of complicating factors from a
health perspective, you'll need constant medication for, and in the
case of a created female genitalia, there's a lot of
(04:43):
coincidental problems that happen along with that procedure that are
again life long, everlasting, always needing medication, always needing follow
up surgeries. That is a lifelong of a sentence of misery.
It is not a path to happiness and self awareness
and actualization. It just isn't far Shorter is the path
(05:08):
of a young person experiencing gender dysphoria. To counsel that
young person, to hear them out, to take it seriously,
to treat them with respect and love and acceptance and understanding,
to do so in a clinical setting with a qualified,
certified psychiatrist.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Because gender dysphoria is real.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Often and it is a vast majority of the cases,
the young person goes through it like a phase and
they're not ending up gender dysphoric. They have questions, they
have concerns, they have fears, they have doubts, They are
going through a difficult time physically with their bodies. But
when they're being sold a bill of goods that this
(05:50):
is a remedy that will lead to that's the end
of the line, and you'll be happy, happy, ever after,
it's not true. It's a lie that's being peddled to
young people experiencing this, and far better is it for
a young person simply to accept who they are and
the bodies which they were born, embrace that identity and
maybe identify as the opposite gender, but not go through
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the mutilation and brutality, especially at a young age, a
formative age where you need those hormones, to go through puberty,
to establish bones and muscle, to have fully functional lungs
and heart. I mean, there are things that we still
don't know about the long term ramifications following gender reassignment surgeries,
especially for young people. It is why it has been
(06:35):
banned in Sweden and Finland, and recently in the United Kingdom.
And should be banned here in the United States. It
is not gender affirming care for kids to have their
body parts chopped off, to have hormones injected into them,
to have hormone blockers prevent them from developing what they
should be developing through puberty. God created us for a reason,
or even if you don't believe in God, science biology.
(06:58):
Would we do this to a pharma animal? Would we
do this to a farm animal or domestic pets stop
the pet from going through its respective sexual function development.
ANSWER's a hard no. This goes back to my puppies
example that Kelly likes so much. Everybody's all pro choice
and all for abortion until you say, well, my female
(07:21):
dog doesn't feel like having these babies, We're gonna abort
the whole litter of puppies.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
No, you can't do that. That's animal cruelty. You could
never Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Why is it okay then, to abort a baby human
at eight or nine months?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Riddle me that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's not for the record, I'm not for aborting puppies
at all.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
It's to make the example.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
There are those on the left who value the lives
of puppies and kittens, which I value as well, but
value them far more than the lives of adult babies,
of human babies. It's quite the kind quandary. Now, why
is transhausen by proxy a thing?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I use that term.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's not original to me, but Munchausen by proxy is real.
And this is where a person is afflicted with a
sort of hero syndrome and they intentionally make a patient
sick in order to administer recovery health practices, medicine, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And then they are the hero.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's kind of like an arsonist who then is the
firefire to put out a fire. This is a tremendous
psychological disorder, Munchausen by proxy, and it's usually a contagion
in which an individual lacks some kind of meaning in
one's life. And when it comes to the transgender portion
(08:46):
of this, for whatever reason, most serial killers are men.
Let me start with that prefacing statement. Why that is
it's probably a biological tick. Men become apex predator and
then therefore are dissociated form any kind of empathy and
they become serial killers that very few women do. Eileen
(09:07):
Warnos would be one example that is an exception. But
most adults who are parents who support the transing of
their kids are females. They're the mothers, they're not the
fathers in virtually one hundred percent of cases.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
But why is that?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
This is a woman named Helen Joyce explaining it, and
I think this is as good of an explanation as
I've heard, and it was sent to me, I believe
by Jody Kalm, who's been on this program within the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
And because that's the people who transition their own children.
So those people are going to be like, you know,
the Japanese soldiers who were on Pacific islands and didn't
know the war was over. They've got to fight forever.
That This is why there's another reason why this is
the worst, worst, worst social contagion that we ever have experienced.
A lot of people have done the worst thing that
you could do, which is to harm their children irrevocably.
Because of it, those people will have to believe that
they did the right thing for the rest of their lives,
(09:56):
for their own sanity and for their own self respect,
so they'll still be fighting. It's one of those people
destroys entire organizations and entire friendship groups, like I've lost
count the number of times that somebody has said to
me of a specific organization that has got turned upside
down on this, Oh the deputy director has a transchild,
or you know, oh the journalist on that paper who
does special investigations has a transchild, or whatever. The entire
(10:16):
organization gets paralyzed by that one person. And it may
not even be widely known at the organization that they've
a transchild, but it will come out like people will
have sort of said it quietly, and now you can't
talk truth in front of that person, and you know
you can't, because what you're saying is you, as a parent,
have done a truly like human rights of us, have
lawful tame to your child that cannot be fixed. There
are specific individuals who are really actively against women's rights
(10:38):
here and it's not known why they are, but I
happen to know through the back channels so that it's
because they've transfer child. And so those people will do
anything for the entire rest of their lives to destroy
me and people like me because people like me are
standing approach to them. I don't want to be I'm
not talking directly to them. I don't spend my time
bitching about them. But the fact is that just simply
by saying we will never accept national males and women's faces, well,
(10:58):
it's there some that we're talking about. And they told
their son that he can get himself sterilized and destroy
his sexual function and women will accept him as a woman.
And if we don't, there's no way back for them
and their child. They sold their child to build of
goods that they can't deliver on, and I'm the one
who has to be bullied to try to force me
to deliver on it. So those people are going to
be the people who will keep this bloody movement going,
I'm sorry to say, because everything to lose, and it's
(11:22):
a fight to the death.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
As far as they're concerned, they have everything to lose.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
They air pot committed to this lie, of this atrocity,
and once the reality of that hits them, they can't
accept it. It's too much to process that they have
done something permanently damaging to their child.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So they have to go with the lie.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
They and they will run this out until the very end,
and they will not refute it because they can't afford
that hit to their psyche, to their ego. In this
particular instance, I thought that was interesting sound to hear.
We'll revisit this topic coming up at the bottom of
the hour. My conversation with the founder of Awake Illinois,
(12:03):
and it was a very good conversation I originated during
Michael Brown's program, but in its entirely Shannon Adcock will
be joining us a battle that they are fighting in
the state of Illinois, much like we are fighting here
in Colorado. And you can follow her at Shannon Underscore,
a Underscore il for Shannon a Illinois. Shannon Adcock will
(12:24):
be our guest, keeping it local. Here was Senator Michael Bennett,
who has gotta be the gubernatorial nominee, probably of the
Democratic side, and he is talking about the big, beautiful
bill and carrying forward the talking points of the left
that it will be devastating. It's interesting because you got
to think about his launch for a run for governor
(12:47):
here in Colorado. He is suddenly concerned about those red
rural areas of Colorado, the voter for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Why would you worry about them?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Well, I think we're going to make sure the American
people understand what's in this bill. It is completely incoherent.
The Republicans can't agree on what they're trying to do
with it, and the cuts to Medicaid are going to
be devastating to rural America and to rural Colorado. I've
spent a ton of time listening to healthcare providers in
(13:16):
red parts of the state that voted for Donald Trump,
that are not engaged in waste, fraud, and abuse. They're
engaged in trying to deliver healthcare on a shoestring as
it is.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Speaker Mike Johnson offers the counterpoint and an interview with
Jake Tapper over the weekend, refuting this claim about the
cutting Medicaid.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
It's directly in line with what the President said. I've
said this same We are not cutting Medicaid in this package.
There's a lot of misinformation out there about this, Jake.
The numbers of Americans who are affected are those that
are entwined in our work to eliminate fraud, waste.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And abuse.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
So what I mean, what do I mean by that
you got more than one point four million illegal aliens
on medicaid. Medicaid is not intended for non US citizens,
for the most vulnerable populations of Americans, which is pregnant
women and young single mothers. To disable the elderly. They
are protected in what we're doing because we're preserving the
resources for those who need it most.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So that Speaker Johnson's contention again kind of pushing back
against this Democratic assertion on cuts to Medicaid. Here is
back to Senator Michael Bennett making that case and saying
that it will have devastating consequences.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
No ob services, no, none of the things that anybody
in the industrialized world expects to have out of their
healthcare system.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
As it is.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And now Trump and his allies are.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Going to cut Medicaid and it's going to drive a
lot of these providers out of business. It's going to
make it impossible for people that live a very long
way from Denver to be able to get healthcare for
their kids.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
And I hope we are able to stop it.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
But if we can't, if the fifty three Republicans in
the Senate insist on ramming it through, the American people
are going to know who owns this piece of legislation.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
They sure will, and who will own it in reverse.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Senator Bennett, if you are making the case that it
is an acceptable cost of doing business that in order
to provide for these rural areas that I'm disputing the
premise at the outset, so let that be noted.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
We're going to be okay with the.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Waste, fraud, and abuse that's happening with illegal aliens collecting
on a healthcare system in the form of Medicaid, Social Security,
Medicare that they are not paying into that, We the
American taxpayers.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And citizens, should foot the bill for that.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
What he is saying is that is okay, that's collateral
damage because of what he wants to protect. So he's
going to throw the baby out with the bathwater, doesn't mention, Yeah,
I'd like to cut Medicaid benefits for illegals. And Mike Johnson,
the Speaker of the House, going further to that point, you're.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Talking about four point eight million able bodied workers, young
men for example, who are on Medicaid and not working.
They are choosing not to work when they can. That
is called fraud. They are cheating the system. When you
root out those kinds of abuses, you save the resources
are so desperately needed by the people who deserve it
and need it most. That's what we're doing, and that's
why this is the morality of what we're doing here
(16:08):
is precisely.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Right, and it comforts with all the public opinion polls.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
When people ask whether young men, for example, who are
able bodied and have no dependent should be working, everybody
says yes, and that's what our package does. So these
estimates that you're hearing are accurate. But it's dealing with
those numbers of people in the population, and that's going
to make the preserve the program and strengthen it for
those who.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Need it most. He's exactly right. It should be means tested.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
This was something that even President Bill Clinton was behind
in the nineties, the welfare to work program, workfair and
getting people back into jobs and working if they are
able bodied citizens of the United States. This should be
something that is bipartisan, and yet it is not. Ryan
great show says this text A five seven seven three nine.
You have the Senator Bennett voice nailed. Thank you for
(16:54):
your show. Yeah, we might have to orchestrate a debate
between Michael Bennett and quotes me and Dan Caplis, potential
candidate for governor question mark. I know there's a lot
of people trying to talk him into it. Sheriff Steve
Reames being one of those. We hope to have him
join us at the close of the show talking about
a Senate bill.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
That has been signed into law by Jared.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Polus that is SB twenty five, two seventy six on
the sanctuary status of this state and the ability of
law enforcement to coordinate and cooperate with ICE in their deportations.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
But I know Steve Reams and George Brockler.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
They gave each other a hard time, but I think
they both support a potential Dan Caplis candidacy for governor,
as would I. By the way, but it's easy to
say that, you know, Sheriff Riemes, d A. Brockler yours. Truly,
We're not the ones that have to launch into this
thing and run a campaign. So if Dan wanted to
do it, you got to imagine a debate stage with
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It's my decision.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
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Speaker 3 (20:07):
Good Evening.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Shannon Adcock, founder of Awake Illinois, a social welfare advocacy organization.
My hat thanks to xx x Y Athletics displays xx
and x y female and male chromosomes. XX cannot become
x Y and vice versa. There is no transformation. There
is no trans for this district to claim otherwise is
(20:29):
a lie, a lie so egregious you might as well
scrap all biology classes. Recently parents and District two or
three sought Awake Illinoi's help after the naper Prairie track meet,
where a male competed on the girls team, winning multiple events.
Parents demanded answers, but the district vaguely cited the Illinois
Human Rights Act and guidance. That act covers bullying, harassment,
(20:51):
not letting boys invade girls bathrooms, locker rooms, or sports teams.
This district's secret policy enacted without board approval. It's in
the face of the Open Meetings Act. Most parents in
Dister two of three and two or four had no
clue their daughters would be competing alongside biological males. The
Illinois Human Rights Act doesn't specify this allowance, and the
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state boards guidance is not law. It's a suggestion and
a bad one.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
She is the founder of a Wake Illinois. That was
her testimony before the Naperfield Public School Board. Shannon Adcock
our guest here. Shannon, thank you so much for your time.
Really appreciate it, sure good to be here.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Now, I think you and I are the same age.
I don't want to presume, but I believe that's true.
And I was just thinking back earlier my experience running
cross country.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Now it's thirty three years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
So going back to nineteen ninety two, and I was
running side by side with the best girls cross country
runner and an invitational in Michigan, and then I outsprinted
her down the stretch, defeated her, but she won the
whole thing for the girls. That was my personal experience.
But little did I know Shannon, that thirty three years
later you would have to explain in those explicit terms
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what xx versus x Y meant, and that I would
have to go into that subject like I just did
on the radio.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
How did we get here?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Right?
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Well, I'm forty five, so I'm a gen xer, proud
gen xer. The nineties were great. They were a golden age,
and yes, we understood biological truths. We appreciated female empowerment
and competitive sports for girls. You know, I think there
was just a very strong message of that in the nineties.
And we have lost our way largely because leftist progressivism
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has been allowed to run amok and it has no
limiting principles. There is no ceiling to how far this
will go. And so of course you have in our
wealthy community of Naperville. I often joke, the wealthier, the wokier,
it's really cool to have luxury beliefs, until until your
daughter is left crying on the track field because your
woke principles are now invading her opportunities for equal opportunity competition.
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So this is how we've arrived to this point. Decades
of no limiting principles of left progressivism, and we're done
with it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, wokeer. I like that word.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I'm going to add it to my own lexicon. Shan
Adcock our guests, you know, it's the same. And I
hate to go by stereotypes, but their stereotypes for a reason,
because they're true. These are the people in the wealthy
suburbs that have the in this house signs on their
front lawns.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And this all goes in along with that.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
And unfortunately at this very public school hearing you spoke,
But then so did this mother who had students in
the school district about where this seventh grade transathlete won
medals several in a girl's track and field event.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Here's what she had to say countering your testimony.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
And I'm a parent of two district two of three students,
one at Lincoln and one at Central Today, I speak
to you in support of transgendered students and transgendered student athletes.
I am proud to live in a state that protects
a student's right to participate in sports that align with
their gender identity. I thank you for supporting and following
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this law. Other parties will tell you that they believe
this is a disservice to our cisgendered students and especially
our female athletes. As the parent of two students in
the district and as a woman, I reject the notion
that allowing transgendered athletes to participate in sports is detrimental
to our students.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Losing a race is disappointing.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
It is okay for our students to experience disappointment. We
cannot protect our children from all the disappointments in life,
but we can encourage them to develop resilience. This growth
mindset will benefit them in numerous situations.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I have so many questions coming out of this, but
I would like you to address that. Shannon. First of all,
how does his mother know that she's a woman? What
is a woman? Could she answer that question?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And then my other question, and then again take off
on this how you will why then are trans individual
student athletes free from this era of disappointment and learning
how to lose.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Right, Well, she's a typical neo Marxist progressive, I would
argue she's a misogynist, and she has been brainwashed or
is complicit in the brainwashing of telling young girls that
they should bow to misogynists and to this agenda that's
saying that, you know, the confused boy or the exploited
boy has more rights than you, that because he is
(25:20):
quote confused or presuming to have a female identity, that
therefore he has more power and more privileges than you.
So we've arrived at this point in wealthy you're the
woke year Naperville because these luxury beliefs are warped and twisted,
and shame on this woman. She founded first of all
not very bright, and it is the toxic seminization of
society where there are no limiting principles. Anything goes. But
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ultimately the rights in privileges, negal opportunity of these girls,
they're going out the window. And so we're going to
put a halt to it. It's why we've filed this
federal civil rights complaint. Now are third in the ctitate
of Illinois second pertaining to Title nine violations, because we
need some air cover in our blue state, arguably much
like you know, Colorado and California, other states where the
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government is running amok and the federal government is going
to have to give us some air cover to protect
the ego opportunities of these students.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Shannon Adcock joining US, founder of a Wake Illinois. She's
already one in court against Governor Pritzker and the woke
policies of a state like Illinois that really is similar
to Colorado, and that there's a big urban center that
dominates the politics of an entire state where there are
a lot of outlying red areas. There certainly are in Illinois,
and there definitely are here in Colorado. But I like
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that term that you use, Shannon, luxury beliefs, because you
don't see typically working class type families that could be
of any race or background really pushing for these woke
policies of inclusion for trans athletes.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
In fact, quite to the contrary.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You know, this is taking a spot from a girl
on a team, a scholarship that might be earned, a
medal that might be one.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I mean, these are robbing She calls them cisgender girls.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I know refute that topic altogether, but that she doesn't
need to acknowledge that there are real girls and women
being harmed by these policies because biological males are invading
those sports and spaces and taking spots away from girls,
and yet they don't address that.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Right.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Well, here's the thing. Liberal progressives themselves are waking up
now because their children are now being harmed by these policies.
And so, you know, Naperville and I'm sure other wealthy
areas around the country. Parents in suburban areas, well to
do areas.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
They're big on sports.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
They are very big on their extracurricular activities for their children.
They pump a lot of money into private clubs, travel sports.
And now that their daughters are on the receiving end
of some really terrible policies where they're saying, sure, boy,
because you identify as a girl, you can now go
on the girls team. Now, these families are pretty pretty upset,
and so urban areas are starting to wake up. Finally,
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if this is what it takes, gosh darn it, here's
where we have to go to. Because they're only going
to care up until the point that it affects them.
So those luxury beliefs are often hypotheticals until they are
on the receiving end of the harmful side of these policies,
such as this lie of gender ideology that a boy
can become a girl. No, he can't. And I'm very
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concerned that a lot of these children are being exploited
by this ideology, by public education policies that are saying, sure,
you can identify as anything you want, No, you cannot.
You can express your identity, your personality, but we are
going to have sex separated spaces, bathrooms, locker rooms, and
sports teams. We are not going to continue leading in
leaning into this insanity any longer.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Shannon, I want to ask a question of you that
I would ask this liberal woman parent whatnot, as to
where the line is. You know, I like to deal
in a world of deafinites of this is and this isn't,
and maybe there's a gray area, but okay, let's walk
down that path for a moment. A boy shows up
and decides, I'm going to grow my hair long, I'm
going to put on some makeup that'll wear a dress,
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and now I'm a girl and I'm going to use
the girls restrooms, changing rooms, locker rooms. I'm going to
participate in girls' sports. Is that enough or does it
not even take what I just described? A boy just
says it, just verbalize it.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I'm a girl. Now, where is that line according to
these liberal parents, Well.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
They're making it up as they go, and they've already
said that in school they can change their student record,
they can change their names, and they're trying to tell
the fellow classmates to now call the boy by the
new girl name, and they expressly permit on internal documents,
because we've done Freedom of Information Act requests on these
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where they're basically saying, what is the protocol going to be?
Are we going to have the boy in the girl's bathroom,
the locker room. But what's really sad is that protected
classes confused children or exploited children. They are making all
the rest of the student body bows. So the uncomfortable
girls are the ones who are told that they should
seek a different accommodation, that they should now find a
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different place where they're going to have to change if
they're uncomfortable. So it is exploiting all of these children,
and it's because of adult failures you know, kids do
not have their prefrontal cortex developed yet. These children should
not be the ones calling the shots. It should be
adults who know better. And these children come into the
school system as male and female. And so we're going
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to follow what I believe is going to be pretty
strict sex separated policies going forward, as things like this
continue to be litigated, and as President Trump's administration and
its commitments to Title nine start giving blue states like
ours air cover because we need it desperately, and.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
We need it here too in Colorado, because Illinois and
Colorado in many ways on parallel tracks. Shannon Adcock joining US,
founder of Awake Illinois, fighting much of this same fight.
And Shannon, I know you're aware of the law that
just passed with Governor Poulos's signature here in Colorado, thirteen
twelve transgender Rights for Individuals. Here's how he explained that
it's not a violation the First Amendment to insist upon
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and others validating somebody's gender identity, appearing on the Ross
Kominski Show on KOA locally here, you.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Don't think it's an infringement on the First Amendment?
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Is that what you're saying well, look, obviously you have
to if you have an employer. There's things you can
say and can't say at work, right, I mean, this
is not like you know, with your friends in your
house at all, Right, right, I mean, that's not against
a law. When you go to work, you cannot call
your African American colleague the N word. I mean that
that is, you know, that is a civil rights violation.
So of course this is a great diverse state. You
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may have to work with somebody who's transgender, somebody you
may have to work with somebody who who's African Americans like.
You just have to respect whoever you work with. You,
you know, and you all try to get along. And
that is in the professional side of things. How we
all get together as a state.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And I would add this goes always.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
If you have a debout Christian who you work with,
you have to respect that. You never mock their Christianity,
You never mocked their faith at work again in your
own home, you know, if you're with friends and you
can argue about Christianity or transgender and you can get mean, ambitious,
and there's no violation of law, totally free speech. But
when you're at work, absolutely there are expectations of what
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you do at work and treat everybody civilly. This bill
doesn't too much about that, but that was already the
law in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
So Governor Paulos defines two settings that we might appear
in in our lives, work at home. What about every
other setting in Colorado that you might appear in publicly,
that's my question, Shannon.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Right.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
Well, we've even seen this in some of the woke
areas of Chicago Land where park districts are setting up
these free speech zones where basically they're saying, hey, you know,
if you want to have free speech, you can only
have it in this particular.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Part of the park.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
So they absolutely are going to try and restrict your
free speech if it doesn't tow their leftist, woke line.
And he doesn't sound very bright on this issue. And
if you listen to the nuances of their verbiage, they
meaning these leftists, they are assuming that you can legislate
their version of utopia. It's not going to happen. So
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when they start bringing these policies into the schools is
really when we fired up, because these children deserve policies
that are going to focus on academics. Obviously, you want
to see children who are disciplined, balanced. You don't want
to see kids who are bullying and harassing and beating
kids up. But we're not going to adopt your version
of leftist utopia. It doesn't exist, and individualism is going
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to reign supreme, Our individual liberties reign supreme. We are
not going to conform to your workview of utopia. We
reject it completely. And our free speech is not going
to be put into zones because eventually gets what, they're
going to come knocking on your door at some point
your home won't be off limits to them. And we
did actually fight House Bill four eight seven six last
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year that would have labeled parents child abusers if they
did not lean into gender ideology and their children's confusion
and give them puberty blockers or chest binders or gender
affirming care, which is careless. It is actually very harmful,
as we're learning, so we stopped that last year. But
this agenda is rad and it is going to try
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and tell any concerned parent that they're on the wrong
side if they protect their children from lies. So Colmorado,
I'm very sorry, I'm grieving for you, but I got
to tell you it's time to go on offense against
these legislators and name them and shame them. No playing nice,
no unity. Their version of U topi is not going
to happen. So start speaking boldly and with common sense
to the harms of these issues.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
The website awakeil dot com. She's the founder of a
Wake Illinois. We could use her in the fight here
and maybe this conversation could be the start of that.
Shannon Adcock find her on X as well. Shannon's so
grateful for your time and thank you for all you're
doing in this fight for girls and women's sports and spaces.
Speaker 8 (34:39):
Thank you, sir. Onward, all right.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Onward indeed, and on where we go to break. We're
back after this on six point thirty k how.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Ah, Yes, we lost a great one, Rick Derringer, who
was singing this song at Hulk Hogan's theme Real American
from the nineteen eighties. But Darren, you're a big fan
of pro wrestling, and as Fay would have I'm a
big fan of Donald Trump. He was one of us,
and he passed away yesterday, as it turns out, at
the age of seventy seven, at his home in Florida.
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An official cause of death not initially released, But Shannon,
you remember a couple of his songs as well. You
had suggested rock and roll huci Coo correct as well.
And hang On Sloopy that's another one of his. So
because Shannon couldn't play it for us and we just
had time for the one song there, you can count
on all of them being played during the Dan Kaplis
Show and Dano Is Bacco, so stay tuned for that.
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I'll join you once again tomorrow morning, filling in for
Michael Brown and in this very time slot, same BAT
channel for Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
My thanks to Shannon and Kelly. We'll talk to you
tomorrow
Then why do you have gender specific plans if you're
not supporting that child. So the plans that the district
has when a student goes to a teacher and shares
that they want to be a different name and go
by different pronouns and use a different bathroom, where there's
the gender specific plan that's actually documented within the district,
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so that there's documentation that the staff will be calling
this child by their their intended pronouns. So with these plans,
doesn't that go opposite to what you just said, No, okay,
sow because.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
The kid has rights to.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And then when their teachers are telling them that one
student is now a different gender and they're going to
go by different pronouns, and then that isn't communicated to
the parents at home, and then you know, for example,
my daughter says, well, I don't know what to do
when I see him in public because they told us
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that his parents don't know, and so I don't know
if I have to call him a hymn or her.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And I'm like, well, do you feel.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Like you have to lie? And she's like yeah, So
they're teaching my kid that she has to lie in
the community.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's a concerned mother and the brief interlude of the
voice that you heard about kids have rights too was
Jennifer Perry. She is the deputy superintendent of Cherry Creek Schools,
admitting that is the policy of the school district that
they hide the children's gender transitions from their parents.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
It is not up to the school to.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Come between a parent and his or her child, and
especially when it comes to matters personal matters of sexual identity.
Of medical care that may or may not be administered
until said minor reaches the age of eighteen or has
been declared eancipated from his or her parents, then yes,
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the parents can and should have the right to make
decisions about his or her child's healthcare. If you even
want to put gender affirming care under the umbrella of healthcare,
which I do not, it is frank and science. It
is experimentation on the lines of Joseph Mengela in Nazi Germany.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
That's not an exaggeration. I saw a photo over the.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Weekend posted by my friend Aaron Lee, and if you
really see what happens in these so called gender reassignment surgeries,
I think it would be less than five percent of
the populace that would support it, even here in Colorado,
because it's absurd, it's ridiculous. I'm going to use some
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graphic language here. It won't be like RX rated for
FCC purposes, but it might be a little alarming. But
that's because it needs to be said. When you recreate
a phony phallis out of a portion of a young
person's forearm or inner thigh, and you construct a penis,
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it is not functional. It doesn't look like the real deal,
it doesn't operate like the real deal. It is simply
a prosthetic, basically attachment that shows in the.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Pants of an individual. Oh, that person may be male.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It's not scientific, not in the true form of science.
It's not recreating an organ, say the way that we
are doing with certain forms of gene therapy and DNA
replication and stem cell research, where we're trying to recreate organs,
and there's an ethical question about that and in what
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cells do you use? Must it come from aborted fetal tissue?
Can you use adult stem cells? That's a whole different
area of conversation, but that what we're describing. The male
genitation is a very complex organ same thing goes with
the female gender. Organs inside fallopian tubes, ovaries, the entire
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apparatus that, to my knowledge, cannot be reconstituted, cannot be
created in a laboratory that's operational.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So what you're essentially saying is we're.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Going to somehow kind of patch work our way through
this gender identity. Give you a part that doesn't really work,
give you a lifelong series of complicating factors from a
health perspective, you'll need constant medication for, and in the
case of a created female genitalia, there's a lot of
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coincidental problems that happen along with that procedure that are
again life long, everlasting, always needing medication, always needing follow
up surgeries. That is a lifelong of a sentence of misery.
It is not a path to happiness and self awareness
and actualization. It just isn't far Shorter is the path
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of a young person experiencing gender dysphoria. To counsel that
young person, to hear them out, to take it seriously,
to treat them with respect and love and acceptance and understanding,
to do so in a clinical setting with a qualified,
certified psychiatrist.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Because gender dysphoria is real.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Often and it is a vast majority of the cases,
the young person goes through it like a phase and
they're not ending up gender dysphoric. They have questions, they
have concerns, they have fears, they have doubts, They are
going through a difficult time physically with their bodies. But
when they're being sold a bill of goods that this
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is a remedy that will lead to that's the end
of the line, and you'll be happy, happy, ever after,
it's not true. It's a lie that's being peddled to
young people experiencing this, and far better is it for
a young person simply to accept who they are and
the bodies which they were born, embrace that identity and
maybe identify as the opposite gender, but not go through
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the mutilation and brutality, especially at a young age, a
formative age where you need those hormones, to go through puberty,
to establish bones and muscle, to have fully functional lungs
and heart. I mean, there are things that we still
don't know about the long term ramifications following gender reassignment surgeries,
especially for young people. It is why it has been
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banned in Sweden and Finland, and recently in the United Kingdom.
And should be banned here in the United States. It
is not gender affirming care for kids to have their
body parts chopped off, to have hormones injected into them,
to have hormone blockers prevent them from developing what they
should be developing through puberty. God created us for a reason,
or even if you don't believe in God, science biology.
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Would we do this to a pharma animal? Would we
do this to a farm animal or domestic pets stop
the pet from going through its respective sexual function development.
ANSWER's a hard no. This goes back to my puppies
example that Kelly likes so much. Everybody's all pro choice
and all for abortion until you say, well, my female
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dog doesn't feel like having these babies, We're gonna abort
the whole litter of puppies.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
No, you can't do that. That's animal cruelty. You could
never Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Why is it okay then, to abort a baby human
at eight or nine months?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Riddle me that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's not for the record, I'm not for aborting puppies
at all.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
It's to make the example.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
There are those on the left who value the lives
of puppies and kittens, which I value as well, but
value them far more than the lives of adult babies,
of human babies. It's quite the kind quandary. Now, why
is transhausen by proxy a thing?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I use that term.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's not original to me, but Munchausen by proxy is real.
And this is where a person is afflicted with a
sort of hero syndrome and they intentionally make a patient
sick in order to administer recovery health practices, medicine, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And then they are the hero.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's kind of like an arsonist who then is the
firefire to put out a fire. This is a tremendous
psychological disorder, Munchausen by proxy, and it's usually a contagion
in which an individual lacks some kind of meaning in
one's life. And when it comes to the transgender portion
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of this, for whatever reason, most serial killers are men.
Let me start with that prefacing statement. Why that is
it's probably a biological tick. Men become apex predator and
then therefore are dissociated form any kind of empathy and
they become serial killers that very few women do. Eileen
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Warnos would be one example that is an exception. But
most adults who are parents who support the transing of
their kids are females. They're the mothers, they're not the
fathers in virtually one hundred percent of cases.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
But why is that?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
This is a woman named Helen Joyce explaining it, and
I think this is as good of an explanation as
I've heard, and it was sent to me, I believe
by Jody Kalm, who's been on this program within the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
And because that's the people who transition their own children.
So those people are going to be like, you know,
the Japanese soldiers who were on Pacific islands and didn't
know the war was over. They've got to fight forever.
That This is why there's another reason why this is
the worst, worst, worst social contagion that we ever have experienced.
A lot of people have done the worst thing that
you could do, which is to harm their children irrevocably.
Because of it, those people will have to believe that
they did the right thing for the rest of their lives,
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for their own sanity and for their own self respect,
so they'll still be fighting. It's one of those people
destroys entire organizations and entire friendship groups, like I've lost
count the number of times that somebody has said to
me of a specific organization that has got turned upside
down on this, Oh the deputy director has a transchild,
or you know, oh the journalist on that paper who
does special investigations has a transchild, or whatever. The entire
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organization gets paralyzed by that one person. And it may
not even be widely known at the organization that they've
a transchild, but it will come out like people will
have sort of said it quietly, and now you can't
talk truth in front of that person, and you know
you can't, because what you're saying is you, as a parent,
have done a truly like human rights of us, have
lawful tame to your child that cannot be fixed. There
are specific individuals who are really actively against women's rights
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here and it's not known why they are, but I
happen to know through the back channels so that it's
because they've transfer child. And so those people will do
anything for the entire rest of their lives to destroy
me and people like me because people like me are
standing approach to them. I don't want to be I'm
not talking directly to them. I don't spend my time
bitching about them. But the fact is that just simply
by saying we will never accept national males and women's faces, well,
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it's there some that we're talking about. And they told
their son that he can get himself sterilized and destroy
his sexual function and women will accept him as a woman.
And if we don't, there's no way back for them
and their child. They sold their child to build of
goods that they can't deliver on, and I'm the one
who has to be bullied to try to force me
to deliver on it. So those people are going to
be the people who will keep this bloody movement going,
I'm sorry to say, because everything to lose, and it's
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a fight to the death.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
As far as they're concerned, they have everything to lose.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
They air pot committed to this lie, of this atrocity,
and once the reality of that hits them, they can't
accept it. It's too much to process that they have
done something permanently damaging to their child.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So they have to go with the lie.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
They and they will run this out until the very end,
and they will not refute it because they can't afford
that hit to their psyche, to their ego. In this
particular instance, I thought that was interesting sound to hear.
We'll revisit this topic coming up at the bottom of
the hour. My conversation with the founder of Awake Illinois,
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and it was a very good conversation I originated during
Michael Brown's program, but in its entirely Shannon Adcock will
be joining us a battle that they are fighting in
the state of Illinois, much like we are fighting here
in Colorado. And you can follow her at Shannon Underscore,
a Underscore il for Shannon a Illinois. Shannon Adcock will
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be our guest, keeping it local. Here was Senator Michael Bennett,
who has gotta be the gubernatorial nominee, probably of the
Democratic side, and he is talking about the big, beautiful
bill and carrying forward the talking points of the left
that it will be devastating. It's interesting because you got
to think about his launch for a run for governor
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here in Colorado. He is suddenly concerned about those red
rural areas of Colorado, the voter for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Why would you worry about them?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Well, I think we're going to make sure the American
people understand what's in this bill. It is completely incoherent.
The Republicans can't agree on what they're trying to do
with it, and the cuts to Medicaid are going to
be devastating to rural America and to rural Colorado. I've
spent a ton of time listening to healthcare providers in
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red parts of the state that voted for Donald Trump,
that are not engaged in waste, fraud, and abuse. They're
engaged in trying to deliver healthcare on a shoestring as
it is.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Speaker Mike Johnson offers the counterpoint and an interview with
Jake Tapper over the weekend, refuting this claim about the
cutting Medicaid.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
It's directly in line with what the President said. I've
said this same We are not cutting Medicaid in this package.
There's a lot of misinformation out there about this, Jake.
The numbers of Americans who are affected are those that
are entwined in our work to eliminate fraud, waste.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And abuse.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
So what I mean, what do I mean by that
you got more than one point four million illegal aliens
on medicaid. Medicaid is not intended for non US citizens,
for the most vulnerable populations of Americans, which is pregnant
women and young single mothers. To disable the elderly. They
are protected in what we're doing because we're preserving the
resources for those who need it most.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So that Speaker Johnson's contention again kind of pushing back
against this Democratic assertion on cuts to Medicaid. Here is
back to Senator Michael Bennett making that case and saying
that it will have devastating consequences.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
No ob services, no, none of the things that anybody
in the industrialized world expects to have out of their
healthcare system.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
As it is.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And now Trump and his allies are.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
Going to cut Medicaid and it's going to drive a
lot of these providers out of business. It's going to
make it impossible for people that live a very long
way from Denver to be able to get healthcare for
their kids.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
And I hope we are able to stop it.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
But if we can't, if the fifty three Republicans in
the Senate insist on ramming it through, the American people
are going to know who owns this piece of legislation.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
They sure will, and who will own it in reverse.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Senator Bennett, if you are making the case that it
is an acceptable cost of doing business that in order
to provide for these rural areas that I'm disputing the
premise at the outset, so let that be noted.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
We're going to be okay with the.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Waste, fraud, and abuse that's happening with illegal aliens collecting
on a healthcare system in the form of Medicaid, Social Security,
Medicare that they are not paying into that, We the
American taxpayers.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And citizens, should foot the bill for that.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
What he is saying is that is okay, that's collateral
damage because of what he wants to protect. So he's
going to throw the baby out with the bathwater, doesn't mention, Yeah,
I'd like to cut Medicaid benefits for illegals. And Mike Johnson,
the Speaker of the House, going further to that point, you're.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Talking about four point eight million able bodied workers, young
men for example, who are on Medicaid and not working.
They are choosing not to work when they can. That
is called fraud. They are cheating the system. When you
root out those kinds of abuses, you save the resources
are so desperately needed by the people who deserve it
and need it most. That's what we're doing, and that's
why this is the morality of what we're doing here
(16:08):
is precisely.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Right, and it comforts with all the public opinion polls.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
When people ask whether young men, for example, who are
able bodied and have no dependent should be working, everybody
says yes, and that's what our package does. So these
estimates that you're hearing are accurate. But it's dealing with
those numbers of people in the population, and that's going
to make the preserve the program and strengthen it for
those who.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Need it most. He's exactly right. It should be means tested.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
This was something that even President Bill Clinton was behind
in the nineties, the welfare to work program, workfair and
getting people back into jobs and working if they are
able bodied citizens of the United States. This should be
something that is bipartisan, and yet it is not. Ryan
great show says this text A five seven seven three nine.
You have the Senator Bennett voice nailed. Thank you for
(16:54):
your show. Yeah, we might have to orchestrate a debate
between Michael Bennett and quotes me and Dan Caplis, potential
candidate for governor question mark. I know there's a lot
of people trying to talk him into it. Sheriff Steve
Reames being one of those. We hope to have him
join us at the close of the show talking about
a Senate bill.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
That has been signed into law by Jared.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Polus that is SB twenty five, two seventy six on
the sanctuary status of this state and the ability of
law enforcement to coordinate and cooperate with ICE in their deportations.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
But I know Steve Reams and George Brockler.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
They gave each other a hard time, but I think
they both support a potential Dan Caplis candidacy for governor,
as would I. By the way, but it's easy to
say that, you know, Sheriff Riemes, d A. Brockler yours. Truly,
We're not the ones that have to launch into this
thing and run a campaign. So if Dan wanted to
do it, you got to imagine a debate stage with
(17:55):
Dan Caplis and Michael Bennett on it. Get your popcorn ready,
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Speaker 3 (20:07):
Good Evening.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Shannon Adcock, founder of Awake Illinois, a social welfare advocacy organization.
My hat thanks to xx x Y Athletics displays xx
and x y female and male chromosomes. XX cannot become
x Y and vice versa. There is no transformation. There
is no trans for this district to claim otherwise is
(20:29):
a lie, a lie so egregious you might as well
scrap all biology classes. Recently parents and District two or
three sought Awake Illinoi's help after the naper Prairie track meet,
where a male competed on the girls team, winning multiple events.
Parents demanded answers, but the district vaguely cited the Illinois
Human Rights Act and guidance. That act covers bullying, harassment,
(20:51):
not letting boys invade girls bathrooms, locker rooms, or sports teams.
This district's secret policy enacted without board approval. It's in
the face of the Open Meetings Act. Most parents in
Dister two of three and two or four had no
clue their daughters would be competing alongside biological males. The
Illinois Human Rights Act doesn't specify this allowance, and the
(21:13):
state boards guidance is not law. It's a suggestion and
a bad one.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
She is the founder of a Wake Illinois. That was
her testimony before the Naperfield Public School Board. Shannon Adcock
our guest here. Shannon, thank you so much for your time.
Really appreciate it, sure good to be here.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Now, I think you and I are the same age.
I don't want to presume, but I believe that's true.
And I was just thinking back earlier my experience running
cross country.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Now it's thirty three years ago.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
So going back to nineteen ninety two, and I was
running side by side with the best girls cross country
runner and an invitational in Michigan, and then I outsprinted
her down the stretch, defeated her, but she won the
whole thing for the girls. That was my personal experience.
But little did I know Shannon, that thirty three years
later you would have to explain in those explicit terms
(22:03):
what xx versus x Y meant, and that I would
have to go into that subject like I just did
on the radio.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
How did we get here?
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Right?
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Well, I'm forty five, so I'm a gen xer, proud
gen xer. The nineties were great. They were a golden age,
and yes, we understood biological truths. We appreciated female empowerment
and competitive sports for girls. You know, I think there
was just a very strong message of that in the nineties.
And we have lost our way largely because leftist progressivism
(22:33):
has been allowed to run amok and it has no
limiting principles. There is no ceiling to how far this
will go. And so of course you have in our
wealthy community of Naperville. I often joke, the wealthier, the wokier,
it's really cool to have luxury beliefs, until until your
daughter is left crying on the track field because your
woke principles are now invading her opportunities for equal opportunity competition.
(22:56):
So this is how we've arrived to this point. Decades
of no limiting principles of left progressivism, and we're done
with it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, wokeer. I like that word.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I'm going to add it to my own lexicon. Shan
Adcock our guests, you know, it's the same. And I
hate to go by stereotypes, but their stereotypes for a reason,
because they're true. These are the people in the wealthy
suburbs that have the in this house signs on their
front lawns.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
And this all goes in along with that.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
And unfortunately at this very public school hearing you spoke,
But then so did this mother who had students in
the school district about where this seventh grade transathlete won
medals several in a girl's track and field event.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Here's what she had to say countering your testimony.
Speaker 9 (23:37):
And I'm a parent of two district two of three students,
one at Lincoln and one at Central Today, I speak
to you in support of transgendered students and transgendered student athletes.
I am proud to live in a state that protects
a student's right to participate in sports that align with
their gender identity. I thank you for supporting and following
(24:00):
this law. Other parties will tell you that they believe
this is a disservice to our cisgendered students and especially
our female athletes. As the parent of two students in
the district and as a woman, I reject the notion
that allowing transgendered athletes to participate in sports is detrimental
to our students.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Losing a race is disappointing.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
It is okay for our students to experience disappointment. We
cannot protect our children from all the disappointments in life,
but we can encourage them to develop resilience. This growth
mindset will benefit them in numerous situations.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I have so many questions coming out of this, but
I would like you to address that. Shannon. First of all,
how does his mother know that she's a woman? What
is a woman? Could she answer that question?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And then my other question, and then again take off
on this how you will why then are trans individual
student athletes free from this era of disappointment and learning
how to lose.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Right, Well, she's a typical neo Marxist progressive, I would
argue she's a misogynist, and she has been brainwashed or
is complicit in the brainwashing of telling young girls that
they should bow to misogynists and to this agenda that's
saying that, you know, the confused boy or the exploited
boy has more rights than you, that because he is
(25:20):
quote confused or presuming to have a female identity, that
therefore he has more power and more privileges than you.
So we've arrived at this point in wealthy you're the
woke year Naperville because these luxury beliefs are warped and twisted,
and shame on this woman. She founded first of all
not very bright, and it is the toxic seminization of
society where there are no limiting principles. Anything goes. But
(25:44):
ultimately the rights in privileges, negal opportunity of these girls,
they're going out the window. And so we're going to
put a halt to it. It's why we've filed this
federal civil rights complaint. Now are third in the ctitate
of Illinois second pertaining to Title nine violations, because we
need some air cover in our blue state, arguably much
like you know, Colorado and California, other states where the
(26:04):
government is running amok and the federal government is going
to have to give us some air cover to protect
the ego opportunities of these students.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Shannon Adcock joining US, founder of a Wake Illinois. She's
already one in court against Governor Pritzker and the woke
policies of a state like Illinois that really is similar
to Colorado, and that there's a big urban center that
dominates the politics of an entire state where there are
a lot of outlying red areas. There certainly are in Illinois,
and there definitely are here in Colorado. But I like
(26:31):
that term that you use, Shannon, luxury beliefs, because you
don't see typically working class type families that could be
of any race or background really pushing for these woke
policies of inclusion for trans athletes.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
In fact, quite to the contrary.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You know, this is taking a spot from a girl
on a team, a scholarship that might be earned, a
medal that might be one.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I mean, these are robbing She calls them cisgender girls.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I know refute that topic altogether, but that she doesn't
need to acknowledge that there are real girls and women
being harmed by these policies because biological males are invading
those sports and spaces and taking spots away from girls,
and yet they don't address that.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Right.
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Well, here's the thing. Liberal progressives themselves are waking up
now because their children are now being harmed by these policies.
And so, you know, Naperville and I'm sure other wealthy
areas around the country. Parents in suburban areas, well to
do areas.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
They're big on sports.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
They are very big on their extracurricular activities for their children.
They pump a lot of money into private clubs, travel sports.
And now that their daughters are on the receiving end
of some really terrible policies where they're saying, sure, boy,
because you identify as a girl, you can now go
on the girls team. Now, these families are pretty pretty upset,
and so urban areas are starting to wake up. Finally,
(27:57):
if this is what it takes, gosh darn it, here's
where we have to go to. Because they're only going
to care up until the point that it affects them.
So those luxury beliefs are often hypotheticals until they are
on the receiving end of the harmful side of these policies,
such as this lie of gender ideology that a boy
can become a girl. No, he can't. And I'm very
(28:18):
concerned that a lot of these children are being exploited
by this ideology, by public education policies that are saying, sure,
you can identify as anything you want, No, you cannot.
You can express your identity, your personality, but we are
going to have sex separated spaces, bathrooms, locker rooms, and
sports teams. We are not going to continue leading in
leaning into this insanity any longer.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Shannon, I want to ask a question of you that
I would ask this liberal woman parent whatnot, as to
where the line is. You know, I like to deal
in a world of deafinites of this is and this isn't,
and maybe there's a gray area, but okay, let's walk
down that path for a moment. A boy shows up
and decides, I'm going to grow my hair long, I'm
going to put on some makeup that'll wear a dress,
(29:00):
and now I'm a girl and I'm going to use
the girls restrooms, changing rooms, locker rooms. I'm going to
participate in girls' sports. Is that enough or does it
not even take what I just described? A boy just
says it, just verbalize it.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I'm a girl. Now, where is that line according to
these liberal parents, Well.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
They're making it up as they go, and they've already
said that in school they can change their student record,
they can change their names, and they're trying to tell
the fellow classmates to now call the boy by the
new girl name, and they expressly permit on internal documents,
because we've done Freedom of Information Act requests on these
(29:38):
where they're basically saying, what is the protocol going to be?
Are we going to have the boy in the girl's bathroom,
the locker room. But what's really sad is that protected
classes confused children or exploited children. They are making all
the rest of the student body bows. So the uncomfortable
girls are the ones who are told that they should
seek a different accommodation, that they should now find a
(29:59):
different place where they're going to have to change if
they're uncomfortable. So it is exploiting all of these children,
and it's because of adult failures you know, kids do
not have their prefrontal cortex developed yet. These children should
not be the ones calling the shots. It should be
adults who know better. And these children come into the
school system as male and female. And so we're going
(30:21):
to follow what I believe is going to be pretty
strict sex separated policies going forward, as things like this
continue to be litigated, and as President Trump's administration and
its commitments to Title nine start giving blue states like
ours air cover because we need it desperately, and.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
We need it here too in Colorado, because Illinois and
Colorado in many ways on parallel tracks. Shannon Adcock joining US,
founder of Awake Illinois, fighting much of this same fight.
And Shannon, I know you're aware of the law that
just passed with Governor Poulos's signature here in Colorado, thirteen
twelve transgender Rights for Individuals. Here's how he explained that
it's not a violation the First Amendment to insist upon
(31:00):
and others validating somebody's gender identity, appearing on the Ross
Kominski Show on KOA locally here, you.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Don't think it's an infringement on the First Amendment?
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Is that what you're saying well, look, obviously you have
to if you have an employer. There's things you can
say and can't say at work, right, I mean, this
is not like you know, with your friends in your
house at all, Right, right, I mean, that's not against
a law. When you go to work, you cannot call
your African American colleague the N word. I mean that
that is, you know, that is a civil rights violation.
So of course this is a great diverse state. You
(31:30):
may have to work with somebody who's transgender, somebody you
may have to work with somebody who who's African Americans like.
You just have to respect whoever you work with. You,
you know, and you all try to get along. And
that is in the professional side of things. How we
all get together as a state.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And I would add this goes always.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
If you have a debout Christian who you work with,
you have to respect that. You never mock their Christianity,
You never mocked their faith at work again in your
own home, you know, if you're with friends and you
can argue about Christianity or transgender and you can get mean, ambitious,
and there's no violation of law, totally free speech. But
when you're at work, absolutely there are expectations of what
(32:05):
you do at work and treat everybody civilly. This bill
doesn't too much about that, but that was already the
law in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
So Governor Paulos defines two settings that we might appear
in in our lives, work at home. What about every
other setting in Colorado that you might appear in publicly,
that's my question, Shannon.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
Right.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
Well, we've even seen this in some of the woke
areas of Chicago Land where park districts are setting up
these free speech zones where basically they're saying, hey, you know,
if you want to have free speech, you can only
have it in this particular.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Part of the park.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
So they absolutely are going to try and restrict your
free speech if it doesn't tow their leftist, woke line.
And he doesn't sound very bright on this issue. And
if you listen to the nuances of their verbiage, they
meaning these leftists, they are assuming that you can legislate
their version of utopia. It's not going to happen. So
(32:56):
when they start bringing these policies into the schools is
really when we fired up, because these children deserve policies
that are going to focus on academics. Obviously, you want
to see children who are disciplined, balanced. You don't want
to see kids who are bullying and harassing and beating
kids up. But we're not going to adopt your version
of leftist utopia. It doesn't exist, and individualism is going
(33:18):
to reign supreme, Our individual liberties reign supreme. We are
not going to conform to your workview of utopia. We
reject it completely. And our free speech is not going
to be put into zones because eventually gets what, they're
going to come knocking on your door at some point
your home won't be off limits to them. And we
did actually fight House Bill four eight seven six last
(33:40):
year that would have labeled parents child abusers if they
did not lean into gender ideology and their children's confusion
and give them puberty blockers or chest binders or gender
affirming care, which is careless. It is actually very harmful,
as we're learning, so we stopped that last year. But
this agenda is rad and it is going to try
(34:01):
and tell any concerned parent that they're on the wrong
side if they protect their children from lies. So Colmorado,
I'm very sorry, I'm grieving for you, but I got
to tell you it's time to go on offense against
these legislators and name them and shame them. No playing nice,
no unity. Their version of U topi is not going
to happen. So start speaking boldly and with common sense
to the harms of these issues.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
The website awakeil dot com. She's the founder of a
Wake Illinois. We could use her in the fight here
and maybe this conversation could be the start of that.
Shannon Adcock find her on X as well. Shannon's so
grateful for your time and thank you for all you're
doing in this fight for girls and women's sports and spaces.
Speaker 8 (34:39):
Thank you, sir. Onward, all right.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Onward indeed, and on where we go to break. We're
back after this on six point thirty k how.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Ah, Yes, we lost a great one, Rick Derringer, who
was singing this song at Hulk Hogan's theme Real American
from the nineteen eighties. But Darren, you're a big fan
of pro wrestling, and as Fay would have I'm a
big fan of Donald Trump. He was one of us,
and he passed away yesterday, as it turns out, at
the age of seventy seven, at his home in Florida.
(35:08):
An official cause of death not initially released, But Shannon,
you remember a couple of his songs as well. You
had suggested rock and roll huci Coo correct as well.
And hang On Sloopy that's another one of his. So
because Shannon couldn't play it for us and we just
had time for the one song there, you can count
on all of them being played during the Dan Kaplis
Show and Dano Is Bacco, so stay tuned for that.
(35:32):
I'll join you once again tomorrow morning, filling in for
Michael Brown and in this very time slot, same BAT
channel for Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
My thanks to Shannon and Kelly. We'll talk to you
tomorrow
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