August 4, 2025 • 35 mins
Charlie Berger, Chief Development Officer for Wilding Brands, joins Ryan to discuss his company's acquisition of Great Divide Brewing and the scheduled reopening of its popular tap room at Stem Ciders in RiNo.
Wilding Brands to open new Great Divide taproom in RiNo – BizWest
Great Divide Brewing to open new taproom in Denver
The more we learn about Sydney Sweeney - she's a registered Republican, she can handle a gun - the more Ryan becomes a fan of hers, just to irk the miserable leftists obsessed with her.
Alan Dershowitz makes some bizarre comments looking to downplay the depravity of Jeffrey Epstein preying upon young girls, and Ryan can't abide it.
Wilding Brands to open new Great Divide taproom in RiNo – BizWest
Great Divide Brewing to open new taproom in Denver
The more we learn about Sydney Sweeney - she's a registered Republican, she can handle a gun - the more Ryan becomes a fan of hers, just to irk the miserable leftists obsessed with her.
Alan Dershowitz makes some bizarre comments looking to downplay the depravity of Jeffrey Epstein preying upon young girls, and Ryan can't abide it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, I got good news and bad news. We'll
start with the bad news because that came first.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I like ending with good.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
News on this program. We'll come back to Ryan Schuling Live.
Shannon's got Alongside. And I saw this article in the
Denver Post about the Denver taproom locations for Great Divide
Brewing Company closing down, and I'm like, wait a minute.
You know, we're in the craft brew golden age here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I think we're still in it. At least I think
I'm still in it.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I like to enjoy these things, and especially when it
comes to a local craft bruce. You know, having originated
in Michigan, there's a lot of them there that are
very successful, and I would say Colorado's right up there.
Those are maybe the two states with the most craft
beer presence, market, permeation, et cetera. You got the Pacific Northwest.
(00:47):
They're doing their thing too, Oregon and even the state
of Washington. But when I think of craft Bruce, I
think of Bell's Brewery and founders in Michigan and West Michigan.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
There I think of Avery and then.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Also for Colorado, obviously there's a lot of different brands
here and a lot of them that I've come to enjoy.
Odell Ipa is one of my all time favorites, and
Great Divide does some great things. But hold the phone.
There has been a plot twist, and this from the
Denver Post. After closing both Denver tap rooms, Great Divide
Brewing plans a new one this fall. The beer bar
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and restaurant will take over the space currently home to
Stemsiders and Rhino. Now why the change of heart Because
there's been a change in ownership Wilding Brands to open
that new Great Divide tap room and Rhino. I did
some digging and joining us now he's the chief development
officer for Wilding Brands. Charlie Berger on the program. Charlie,
thank you so much for taking the time.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Hey, well, thank you so much Ryan for having me.
I appreciate it sincerely.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well take us to the genesis of this acquisition.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I guess I want to start there.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
For Wilding Brands and why Great Divide Brewing was an
attractive option for you?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well, absolutely, you said Denver is a craft beer you capital,
and I totally agree. I founded the Denver Beer Company
about fourteen years ago, and so I've been intimately familiar
with this industry. And this town and this state, and
I definitely agree that it's been a golden age for
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the last fifteen or even twenty plus years in Colorado
for a craft beer. I'll explain a little bit about
Wilding Brands. We are a family of brands. We include
the Denver Beer Company, Stemsiders, Punk Works Brewing Company. Recently
we have a Great Divide Brewing Company and Stationed twenty six.
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So we're really excited to have really a fantastic portfolio
of Colorado brands that consumers have known and have loved
for years and years.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm proud to say that I've been to your Denver
Beer Company beer garden too.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
What a fantastic venue that is.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So the concept is there and it works and people
love it.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It does.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And you know, with the Great Divide tap rooms, as
we came together under the banner of Wilding Brands, we
decided that there was a little bit of you know,
reorientation that probably needed to take place. We're going to
make the Great Divide beer that's always that's been for
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thirty one years, made in the city of Denver, and
we're just moving it across town a little bit and
still making all the great Divide Beer in the city
of Denver, but a couple of the tap rooms that
Great Divide had been operating were at the real estate
of their big production brewery, and that's why the move happened.
That's why we just changed the spots a little bit
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from their location on a rap Ho and River North.
Now we're going to have a Great Divide right downtown again,
walking distance from the ballpark. And I think our guests
and Great Divides long term shi are going to be
absolutely stoked that they can still get all the fresh,
high quality, great to buy brands they've known and loved
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and really pretty much walking distance.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, this was such a great turn of events and
encouraging news. That is reason to celebrate in my view.
And Charlie Berger joining us. He's the chief development officer
for Wilding Brands that includes Denver Beer Company and now
Great Divide Brewing. So let me ask it to you
this way from your business mind perspective, Charlie, about what
Great Divide is, what it brings to the table for
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your whole umbrella of Wilding Brands, and what this tap
room is going to look like. Are you just kind
of reconstituting what they had been doing. Did you think
it wasn't broke so you don't have to fix it,
but you just needed to do it in a different venue,
like you said, at the Stemsider's location in Rhino.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What is going into that.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Thought process about how it's going to be presented to
the public.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, I think it's going to be a continuation for
sure of a fantastic place to meet and greet your friends.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I started my career as a twenty one year old
in the craft beer industry taking bottles off the bottling
line over at Great Divide. That was my first job
in the industry. Ever, I fell in love with it,
and actually there was no tasting room for Great Divide
back then. We really worked just at that Rapa Hoose
Street location, just a bottling facility, brewing and bottling. And
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so now this is going to be a The vision
for what we're putting together now is actually a reasonably
good food program. We're working with some partners at the
Vibe Restaurant Group who have currently a couple of licensing
deals to operate Great Divide tap rooms in Loan Tree,
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in Bellmar and in Castle Rock, and they're doing a
great job. So we decided that that was really a
great opportunity to you know, I have a Great Divide,
the Great Divide taper I'm in downtown that everybody you know,
hopefully will just see as a continuation of the thirty
one years of Great Divide bring history in Denver.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I want to dig a little bit deeper on that
part of it too, because Great Divide has some great offerings.
Denver Beer Company, which you founded, it really has a
signature for me. I'm a big i p a guy myself.
An incredible pedal is right there for me at the
apex on the top of the line.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And like asking you about your kids, though, do you
have a favorite? Oh? Man, what day is it?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Where I'll be I'll tell you what. I've been camping
this summer a bit with my kiddos, and I'm a
Graham Cracker reporter around the campfire is mine.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
We have an Apricotta Cave hard cider from Stemsiders that
is kind of my trailhead cider after a long hike
in the beer garden of Rocky Mountain lager or a
Howdy Beer. I'm drinking about three to five of those
with my buddies. So you know time and place.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yes, a beer for every occasion, and that is under
this umbrella group as I mentioned of wilding brands that
has been vastly successful with Denver Beer Company Stemsiers as
we mentioned another one of those, and now Great Divide
Brewing being brought into the fold. So your origin story
begins a great Divide. I think that's kind of cool
how things have come full circle for you, Charlie. And
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why you think the craft brewing industry enjoyed the renaissance
that it really continues to do, but that it took
off in such a way because we might be around
the same age. But I remember, you know, there would
be these kind of micro breweries they called them at
the time in Michigan and Grand Rapids in particular where
I was living, But I never knew that they would
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get into the be able to do you know, the
distribution to be able to compete on a mass scale
with you know, Cores and Miller and a lot of
these bigger brands that were macro brewing, Budweiser, et cetera.
What made it, in your opinion, feasible to make this
a marketing success and why were you able to develop
that with Denver Beer.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Company and come to where you are right now in
this business.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well so right, it's a super fun industry. We're surrounded
by great people. We get to exercise our creative brains
by making new fun beers all the time and when
Bush comes to shove. We've been really lucky to be
supported by the community. I think people love having a
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beer with their buddies, and we've been able to grow
these small businesses. And it is true that craft has
proliferated over the past really fifteen years more more longer
ago than that, there was some tough floding for those folks,
those the great dividce had to teach the consumers what
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craft beer was. But now we all know, right, And
so it's really a fun industry for the fun people,
and we're doing cool stuff and we just intend to
make sure that these legacy Colorado brands are celebrated. We're
going to invest behind them in marketing and in sales
efforts and really try to keep the consumers excited about
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the high quality liquid that we're putting out every day.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And finally, Charlie, this is a reminder for our audience
and those that might be just tuning in the Great
Divide tap room opening up in Rhino there.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Exactly where will that be and when will that be?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Oh, we are working on it. It's not as easy,
you know, sometimes with permitting, etcetera, etcetera, it's not as
easy to pick a date and actually hit it. I
hope you can understand that. Oh yeah, we're yeah, so no,
we're over at thirty forty Blake Street. It's going to
(09:51):
be the new Great Divide and so we really hope
folks we'll come and visit and have a yetti and
a titan and strawberry rubar and then just enjoy, enjoy
the enjoy the environment over there. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So sometime in the fall, and we're working quick.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yes, I think early fall is a good target.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
All right, let's be optimistic early fall. Charlie.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Tell you what, when you do have that date set
and you do know it, let's have you back on
the air.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
We'll talk about it all over again.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
All right, all right, have you over and and anyone
who wants to come, well, we'll drink a yetti together.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I'm going to take you up on that.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Charlie Berger, chief Development Officer for Wilding Brands again, this
turn of good news. Great Divide Brewing. That tap room
coming back to the downtown area, walking distance.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
From coors Field.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It'll be at the Stemsider's location right now in Rhino, TBD. Charlie,
thanks for your time and thanks for all you're doing
for Denver.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Hey, thanks again.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Talk so all right and.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
If you have some thoughts five seven seven three nine.
Like to welcome those of you that are just tuning in.
And yes, sometimes we go off on tangents and we
talk about beer. Shannon doesn't drink beer anymore, but he
used to at one time.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
He enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
He likes watching other people drink beer. And that's cool,
and that's all right.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Is Kelly back? Yet she doesn't drink beer. I know that. No,
I don't know where she went. Let me see here
five seven seven three nine. You can send those texts along.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Have you seen the Asian version of Sidney Sweeney's commercial.
The actress is wearing yellow jeans. See where this is going?
And that's about her? Yell, it's a I think it's
a parody. I don't know that. It's the aged version
like Japan picked up on Sydney Sweeney and wanted to
(11:37):
make it their own. You know, when you're big in Japan.
Alphaville great song, one of my favorites. And we have
determined that Dan Caplis is the official American morning radio
program in Japan because we had a listener call in
this is a couple of years ago now and tell them, Hey,
I'm here in Japan and it's it's early in the morning.
So you know, little did you know Dan Caplis actually
(11:58):
had a morning show at least that's what it is
in Japan.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I want to make sure I reiterate this for those
of you that have been tuned in, and again I
appreciate all of you. George Altts, I've been taxing them
back and forth with him. I'm just really enthralled with
this book that he's written. Tragedy to tribute one father's
grief fuels a passionate journey to change the mindset of
a nation, and that's about establishing this honor and remember
flag is kind of the official go to avatar, if
(12:25):
you will, of those who have served our country and fallen,
that they never be forgotten, and especially for these gold
Star families that are out there. I mean these families
deserve our utmost respect and to make sure that we
show them our appreciation because the families sacrifice too. This
is why I got so enraged, and I know Shannon
(12:48):
did too, and I know a lot of you did
as well. When the thirteen service members that were killed
in the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, their bodies came back to
the United States and Biden showed up on the tarmac
and he could not have been less interested in what
was going on, so much so to the point where
he checked his watch. That's a disgrace and that is unforgivable.
(13:12):
And contrast and compare that if you will. You know,
people don't They don't know a lot about President Trump
behind the scenes or what a.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Genuinely good person he is.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And I know, oh, he's this swashbuckling billionaire, womanizer all
this stuff, and people that paint this picture of this
caricature of him as this bad guy. When the cameras
aren't on, that's when true character is revealed. And with
President Trump, every single one of those gold Star families
said that he reached out to them personally. He wasn't
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even president of the United States at that time, but
he knew that they needed to hear from somebody who
would matter in that situation because they weren't hearing from
Joe Biden. And they spoke very publicly about that, and
they fervently supported President Trump during his run for reelection
the second time around.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Why are military service members so devoted to and passionate
about this man, including my buddy Hutch.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He's a Marine Corps veteran.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Never has he ever been as invested in politics as.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
He has been with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And he's the one Hutchy who kind of turned me
on to Trump from the outset. I went down there,
I visited him. This would have been twenty sixteen, spring
of twenty sixteen, and I was a little Marco guy,
because what do I know? I like little Marco.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
He seemed to be kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
He's a Republican, he's a Cuban American and had a
great story to tell along those lines that I could
relate to. He's about my age, you know, He's a
very passionate conservative Republican.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And Hutch wasn't too crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
About his own senator from the state lie he's establishing
it ry, you know, like God on, like you really
think Donald Trump wants to win this thing. I needed
to be convinced that Trump was in it to win it,
like Eiserman, like Rock talks about, like he was really
going to see that through and run a serious campaign,
have serious policy positions.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I think the moment that it turned.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
For me with Donald Trump was the debate with Jeb
Bush where he just eviscerated a Jeb made fun of
all your real tough guy Jeb a real tough guy,
low energy, you know, and he was just ripping on
President George W. Bush and the Iraq War, kind of
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bringing this full circle. And I felt the same way.
I felt kind of duped by us getting into that
conflict with Saddam Hussein when it had nothing to do
with the harboring of Hosama bin Laden the Pakistani Afghani border.
That's where one hundred percent of our effort and focus
should have been targeted. But we go on this off
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ramp to a Raq. It didn't make a whole lot
of sense to me at the time, but I kind
of went along with it. And then it's revealed there
were no weapons of mass destruction, and if Saddam Hussein
ever had.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I mean, he didn't have ma any more.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Maybe he used them, maybe he hid them he had
time to do that, or maybe he was just bluffing.
Maybe he just wanted people to think he had weapons
of mass destruction because he's this, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Maniacal dictator.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Of course, but when Trump said that, that stood out
to me because he was taking a stand and it
was not a popular one with any Republican party. And
I think that's really where this whole mag of mindset began.
But what it did the Donald Trump approach to foreign
policy and the use of our military is he will
exhaust every diplomatic option and in including strong arm tactics
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when it comes to negotiating in those means and in
that realm, and that he will only use our armed
forces as a last resort with targeted strikes like we
did with recently with the Iran nuclear facilities, at minimal
risk to our service members, and that they should not
be putt in harm's way wantonly willy nilly, just because
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we're going on wars of This is where the nexus
of say a Donald Trump and a Tulsa Gabbard happens.
And myself, by the way, so what the military families
know is that he values them, that he revers them,
that he values their lives as much as their own
parents do. And he has shown that he has backed
that up with his actions. And that is why, in
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my view, I don't know that there's been a president
in our time that has been more robustly almost universally
popular with our members of the armed services. I mean,
Reagan was to a large degree, but I don't think
there's anything that matches the scale of.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Donald Trump and has appealed to them because again.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
They feel like he has their back, that he has
their best interest at heart, that he will do whatever
it takes to make sure that these families, these gold
Star families, are looked after, that they're cared for. And
what he does again behind the scenes, behind closed doors,
without the public seeing it, without the cameras on, and
in fact, many times he doesn't want the cameras on
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because he doesn't want it to look like he's doing
it for that reason, and that's why this is such
a an issue that's near and dear to my heart.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And my heart goes out to Georgia A.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Lott, who lost his son Tony in Fallujah almost twenty
years ago on the calendar, and Tony's daughter celebrating her
twentieth birthday that never got to know her father, who
was a true hero that served our country in Iraq, so.
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Speaker 4 (20:10):
Who was She's a registered Republican?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh now, I love her head?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Is that right? As Sidney Sweeney, you'd be surprised at
how many people are Republicans. That's what I wouldn't have known.
But I'm glad you told me that if Sydney Sweeney
is a registered Republican, I think her head is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
The more I find out about Sidney Sweeney, the more
I like this. Gal. Did you see the video Shannon
of her shooting guns? O man packing heat?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Kelly, you're back. We were worried sick about you. In fact,
here's Eric Manning. Is Kelly still am?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I huh?
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I had a maintenance supprise.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I know.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Okay, you're right though. What do you think of Sidney blasting?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Oh? Do you see that?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
It's kind of like a lady can fire a gun.
I'm just saying, right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
I'm not a lesbian, but I certainly attracted to hurt
for that.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, I'm gonna say you played one on the radio.
But again, everything the left is doing is making me
like Sydney Sweeney.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
More and more. And I didn't even really know a
lot about her before all this. Here's some I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Know woman that hates her own life. Stop the ad
face being racist or shut up. Here's here's the whole
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Enchilada served up neatly for a meal. For one, it's
not that we're against any of these other things that
were being being force fed in the woke media. Well,
we should not have body shaming, and in fact, it's
healthy to be overweighted, and in fact it's not that
lifestyle should not be encouraged. And if you talk to
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most people who are overweight, they want to lose weight.
That is for health reasons, not just for esthetic reasons,
although that is part of it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
We should not encourage people to be fat.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now, there are people different kind of genes and I'm
talking about ge n ees, different kind of metabolism that
maybe they're going to carry a little bit more weight.
But you can do it in a healthy manner. You
can pursue a healthy lifestyle. You can eat a healthy diet,
you can exercise, you can do things that is within
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your realm of control. You shouldn't say be fat, it's great, No,
it's not great. Don't do it, not recommended, bad for
your heart, gonna have a stroke, can have a heart attack,
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And then you know everything that a check a box
that we're sick of it or just sick of it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And just because Sidney Sweeney is an attractive, young white
female with blue eyes doesn't mean she's a Nazi. Doesn't
mean we're promoting eugenics. We can appreciate the beauty of
every individual, including those who just happen through no fault
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of her own. Okay, what part of this the Sidney
Sweeney pick out of the genetic pool?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
When she was born?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Which menu did she order the following items from?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Blue eyes female white? She didn't order any of that.
She was born that way.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And we should no more villifi Sidney Sweeney for being
a white, blue eyed female than we should villify a
black person with brown eyes, or any or a gay person.
Nobody should. Why do we have to vilify a Sydney
Sweeney and say she's a Nazi. I don't understand this
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at all, not even a little bit. And she happens
to be objectively, scientifically attractive.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Trying to turn this around and twist it up now
they did somebody.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Docks her and like go searching for her vote. I
bet she's a Republican if we were to look it
up and find out what she is good Like I said, the.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
More that's revealed by the woke left trying to make
us hate her, I adore her. If you hate her,
that must mean she's great. I don't even know her,
but I'm going to default.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
To that position.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Goodness, gracious Slandrsha with stuff in a second. It's a
little concerning, to put it mildly, but a couple of texts.
First by seven seven three nine Ryan, we all fell
into the bush trap. But the nice thing about we conservative,
we are smart, and we are wise and we wake
up really quick.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Love your show. I love that you listen to this show,
so thank you. And yeah, you know it's like George W.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Bush said, fool me, want shame on you fool me twice?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
We won't get fooled again. One of my favorite all
time W quals. He forgotten his sake, so he just
filled in with the who you can't help.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
But he's funny. He's a funny guy. Remember he was
like talk. There's this other shot. He's in a golf course.
He's talking about form. We will not support terrorists or
those who harbor them.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Now watch this drive.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I gotta put it together like a highlight of all
these W clips that are they're funny, and normally he's
funniest when he's not trying to be funny. But yeah,
that's the thing right here. This text we like to laugh.
We like to have a good time. Shannon's a good
time guy, Kelly's a good time Gaye.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I like to have a good time on the show.
I like to laugh, like to play stuff that's funny.
I like to play bits. Gotta enjoy life, No, no, no,
the Left can't do that. They don't want to enjoy life.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
They want you to be miserable because why because they
are miserable deep down.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
They don't really like themselves. And then this one.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Perhaps the Left is grumpy over this because jeans are
less comfortable for some than spanks or legging stretch.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
To the max.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Kelly, can you speak for personal experience? Jeans versus spanks
are legging stretch to the max. And I think I
know where this text is going with that. Not that
you are, you know, in any way shape, mannor form overweight,
But I'm just saying, are they more comfortable? Do you
like wearing jeans? I don't see you wearing jeans a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Well, first of all, it's it's a short thing.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm very sure you're you're yeah, you're wee little, we little.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
I can't find jeans that actually proportionally, it's difficult for
you yeah. Yeah, I either have to go to the
kids section, which is really embarrassing, okay, and or I
have to kind of go the mom jeans route or
(27:15):
the jag They have this thing jagging.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
No, I'm familiar with that.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yeah, I'm not going to do that, Okay, but I
have You've seen me in jeans before.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Rarely, but yeah, yeah, I enjoy me a good pair
of jeans. I need the relaxed fit, boot cut. And
it's so much different for men, oh obviously, but for me.
I don't like to brag, but I was voted at
best legs in the class of ninety two for Grasslke
High School.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's a fact. It was me and Wendy Fierini. That's
what happened.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
But and you beat a girl.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
No, it was one guy, one gal.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
That's how we did all the things, you know, most
likely to succeed, all those things that you vote about
for the yearbook and the senior class. And my brother
and I, you know, take after my dad and then
his dad like got these tree trunk kind of shooling legs,
like especially our thighs, and you know, typically the kind
of fit that maybe the average guy would have in jeans.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
This's thing gonna work well for me.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I've played tennis with you, so I've seen your legs.
I haven't really looked at them scrutiny to that extreme.
But you know, hey, I don't know. I don't normally
look at guys legs at other things.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Oh okay, On that note, we'll go to break Wow
five seven seven three nine. Do you wear jeans out there?
And if you do, what kind of genes do you prefer?
And are you more likely to buy jeans?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
After all this controversy with Sidney Sweeney's, this is the
kind of thing I do. It's like, Okay, now that
you're that upset about I was gonna buy jeans, but
now that you're being a jerk about it, gonna go
buy some jeans.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Maybe Kelly'll get some. I'm American.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You need to get some American eagle jeans, Kelly, and
show some solidarity with our girl, Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
If they fit me, well, try them out. Okay, Okay,
maybe we'll do that during the break. Ryan.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Those Bush quotes are pure cold. Keep up the great work.
I'm gonna find them and like play like the greatest
hits of w because that man was hilarious. Say what
you will about in his policies, some of which I
was not a big fan of.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Well, get to.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Alan Dershowitz when he came come back. It's one of
those you know, I respect Alan Dershowitz. I think he's
a brilliant legal mind. Usually what he says I'm like
lockstep with. But it's one of those you had me
then you lost me kind of moments. And we'll have
that for you as we close out today's show. After
these words on Ryan schruling Life, let me make.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Two points that would be very controversial and you may
disagree with them completely. Jeffrey Epsley was not a pedophile.
That term has a specific meaning. It means people who
are sexually attracted to pre pubescent girls or boys that
is eleven twelve years old. That's the definition of all
psychiatrists and of the law. Epstein was interested in sixteen
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year olds, seventeen year olds, eighteen year olds.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
He was a bad person, did terrible, terrible things.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
The word pedophile is not a correct description of what
he was.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I don't know, dersh Man, Well, what's up with that? No, No,
he's preying upon sixteen and seventeen year olds. There's an
imbalance there. It's not just implied. There's statutory law regarding
these matters, and in various states it changes.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's different. Now you can get into semantics about is.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
It worse to want to have relations with a nine,
ten eleven year old, Well, I would say yes, but
it doesn't make going after underage girls who are vulnerable.
He's leaving out entirely context here too. Gallaine Maxwell used
to go on the hunt for young girls for Jeffrey Epstein.
(31:06):
There's a reason why she's in prison. This was appalling behavior.
He wasn't just a bad guy, he's kind of self serving.
This this is even worse.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Number two, he was not a trafficker.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Traffickers make money by selling and enslaving girls.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
What he did is he was.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
A selfish guy who was having sex with all these
sexual contact at least with all these sixteen seventeen year
old her age, and maybe maybe lending them to people
like Prince Andrew.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
We don't know for sure. But he was not a
trafficker in the true sense of the word. That's why
there's no client list. There were no clients.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
What was the word that jumped off the page at
you right there, Kelly, I saw your face. Lending Wait, hell, no,
lending implies ownership. Lending implies I could let you borrow
xyz this sixteen year old seventy Hey, Prince Andrew, got
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this girl over here, Let me lend her to you.
Why is that girl yours to lend? Dersh what are
you talking about?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Man?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
It was also photographic evidence. Let's just remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
These girls were manipulated and abused and used. And if
you don't want to use the word traffic, because there
weren't funds involved. This is what he tried to claim.
This was in an interview with Glenn Beck.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
He didn't work for the most sod.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
I know that because I debriefed him when I was
trying to make a deal for him back in two.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Thousand and six seven.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
And he would have told me if he had a deal,
if he was working with the government, because who would
have helped him get a get a clear better deal.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
There's a documentary on Netflix right now about Jeffrey Epstein,
and go ahead and watch that and compare it to again,
this kind of varnished version that Dershowitz is presenting Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
The guy was a monster.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
There's not a strong enough word for who he was
and what he did and the lives that he ruined for.
These girls, they're girls, there's somebody's daughter, they're your sisters,
they're your nieces.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I can't abide this.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I can't abide it at all, Kelly, this is really
disgusting from Alan Dershowitz in my view.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Yeah, I don't know what his whole endgame is with
coming out and saying these things.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well, he was on the list, and you know, he
was kind of implicated at one point, then he was exonerated,
he was Then he's saying released the files. Now he's
saying there aren't files because there weren't clients. Because Epstein
wasn't making money. Epstein became what a billionaire doing what?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Doing what? Leveraging blackmail?
Speaker 5 (33:49):
That was always the assumption.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
That's the business, Brian, neither a borrower nor a lender.
B That's great advice, and I would recommend that you
take it.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Ryan. I don't wear American Eagle jeans.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I'm an old guy, but I did buy American Eagle
stock nice loving it in the last week. Yeah, tired
buying American Eagle jeans wired buying American Eagle stock smart
move Texter, Ryan, I've only found Wranglers to be the
best fitting jeans, but I'm gonna look at American Eagle.
I like wranglers too, used to like LEVI. Some of
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those are okay, but yeah, give American Eagle a look.
They're standing in the breach here pissing off the Libs.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
That's reason enough. Oh another one.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Republican women are not only nice to look at, but
when they talk, I want to listen because they're smart
and have common sense, unlike the bat blank crazy leftists
like AOC and Nancy. Are you gonna add a lot
to that list, Jazz and Crackett elan Omar shoot it
to Lee Bana Pressley. I am largely in concurrence with
your take, so thank you. One of your text ares
(34:59):
set it all. The demon rats hate everything and destroy
everything and are never happy. Hence we Republicans are happy individuals.
Hence the demon rat okay, hence Bryan schuling lab back
tomorrow
All right, I got good news and bad news. We'll
start with the bad news because that came first.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I like ending with good.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
News on this program. We'll come back to Ryan Schuling Live.
Shannon's got Alongside. And I saw this article in the
Denver Post about the Denver taproom locations for Great Divide
Brewing Company closing down, and I'm like, wait a minute.
You know, we're in the craft brew golden age here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I think we're still in it. At least I think
I'm still in it.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I like to enjoy these things, and especially when it
comes to a local craft bruce. You know, having originated
in Michigan, there's a lot of them there that are
very successful, and I would say Colorado's right up there.
Those are maybe the two states with the most craft
beer presence, market, permeation, et cetera. You got the Pacific Northwest.
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They're doing their thing too, Oregon and even the state
of Washington. But when I think of craft Bruce, I
think of Bell's Brewery and founders in Michigan and West Michigan.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
There I think of Avery and then.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Also for Colorado, obviously there's a lot of different brands
here and a lot of them that I've come to enjoy.
Odell Ipa is one of my all time favorites, and
Great Divide does some great things. But hold the phone.
There has been a plot twist, and this from the
Denver Post. After closing both Denver tap rooms, Great Divide
Brewing plans a new one this fall. The beer bar
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and restaurant will take over the space currently home to
Stemsiders and Rhino. Now why the change of heart Because
there's been a change in ownership Wilding Brands to open
that new Great Divide tap room and Rhino. I did
some digging and joining us now he's the chief development
officer for Wilding Brands. Charlie Berger on the program. Charlie,
thank you so much for taking the time.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Hey, well, thank you so much Ryan for having me.
I appreciate it sincerely.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well take us to the genesis of this acquisition.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I guess I want to start there.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
For Wilding Brands and why Great Divide Brewing was an
attractive option for you?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well, absolutely, you said Denver is a craft beer you capital,
and I totally agree. I founded the Denver Beer Company
about fourteen years ago, and so I've been intimately familiar
with this industry. And this town and this state, and
I definitely agree that it's been a golden age for
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the last fifteen or even twenty plus years in Colorado
for a craft beer. I'll explain a little bit about
Wilding Brands. We are a family of brands. We include
the Denver Beer Company, Stemsiders, Punk Works Brewing Company. Recently
we have a Great Divide Brewing Company and Stationed twenty six.
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So we're really excited to have really a fantastic portfolio
of Colorado brands that consumers have known and have loved
for years and years.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm proud to say that I've been to your Denver
Beer Company beer garden too.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
What a fantastic venue that is.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So the concept is there and it works and people
love it.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It does.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
And you know, with the Great Divide tap rooms, as
we came together under the banner of Wilding Brands, we
decided that there was a little bit of you know,
reorientation that probably needed to take place. We're going to
make the Great Divide beer that's always that's been for
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thirty one years, made in the city of Denver, and
we're just moving it across town a little bit and
still making all the great Divide Beer in the city
of Denver, but a couple of the tap rooms that
Great Divide had been operating were at the real estate
of their big production brewery, and that's why the move happened.
That's why we just changed the spots a little bit
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from their location on a rap Ho and River North.
Now we're going to have a Great Divide right downtown again,
walking distance from the ballpark. And I think our guests
and Great Divides long term shi are going to be
absolutely stoked that they can still get all the fresh,
high quality, great to buy brands they've known and loved
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and really pretty much walking distance.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, this was such a great turn of events and
encouraging news. That is reason to celebrate in my view.
And Charlie Berger joining us. He's the chief development officer
for Wilding Brands that includes Denver Beer Company and now
Great Divide Brewing. So let me ask it to you
this way from your business mind perspective, Charlie, about what
Great Divide is, what it brings to the table for
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your whole umbrella of Wilding Brands, and what this tap
room is going to look like. Are you just kind
of reconstituting what they had been doing. Did you think
it wasn't broke so you don't have to fix it,
but you just needed to do it in a different venue,
like you said, at the Stemsider's location in Rhino.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What is going into that.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Thought process about how it's going to be presented to
the public.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Well, I think it's going to be a continuation for
sure of a fantastic place to meet and greet your friends.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I started my career as a twenty one year old
in the craft beer industry taking bottles off the bottling
line over at Great Divide. That was my first job
in the industry. Ever, I fell in love with it,
and actually there was no tasting room for Great Divide
back then. We really worked just at that Rapa Hoose
Street location, just a bottling facility, brewing and bottling. And
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so now this is going to be a The vision
for what we're putting together now is actually a reasonably
good food program. We're working with some partners at the
Vibe Restaurant Group who have currently a couple of licensing
deals to operate Great Divide tap rooms in Loan Tree,
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in Bellmar and in Castle Rock, and they're doing a
great job. So we decided that that was really a
great opportunity to you know, I have a Great Divide,
the Great Divide taper I'm in downtown that everybody you know,
hopefully will just see as a continuation of the thirty
one years of Great Divide bring history in Denver.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I want to dig a little bit deeper on that
part of it too, because Great Divide has some great offerings.
Denver Beer Company, which you founded, it really has a
signature for me. I'm a big i p a guy myself.
An incredible pedal is right there for me at the
apex on the top of the line.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And like asking you about your kids, though, do you
have a favorite? Oh? Man, what day is it?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Where I'll be I'll tell you what. I've been camping
this summer a bit with my kiddos, and I'm a
Graham Cracker reporter around the campfire is mine.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
We have an Apricotta Cave hard cider from Stemsiders that
is kind of my trailhead cider after a long hike
in the beer garden of Rocky Mountain lager or a
Howdy Beer. I'm drinking about three to five of those
with my buddies. So you know time and place.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yes, a beer for every occasion, and that is under
this umbrella group as I mentioned of wilding brands that
has been vastly successful with Denver Beer Company Stemsiers as
we mentioned another one of those, and now Great Divide
Brewing being brought into the fold. So your origin story
begins a great Divide. I think that's kind of cool
how things have come full circle for you, Charlie. And
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why you think the craft brewing industry enjoyed the renaissance
that it really continues to do, but that it took
off in such a way because we might be around
the same age. But I remember, you know, there would
be these kind of micro breweries they called them at
the time in Michigan and Grand Rapids in particular where
I was living, But I never knew that they would
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get into the be able to do you know, the
distribution to be able to compete on a mass scale
with you know, Cores and Miller and a lot of
these bigger brands that were macro brewing, Budweiser, et cetera.
What made it, in your opinion, feasible to make this
a marketing success and why were you able to develop
that with Denver Beer.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Company and come to where you are right now in
this business.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Well so right, it's a super fun industry. We're surrounded
by great people. We get to exercise our creative brains
by making new fun beers all the time and when
Bush comes to shove. We've been really lucky to be
supported by the community. I think people love having a
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beer with their buddies, and we've been able to grow
these small businesses. And it is true that craft has
proliferated over the past really fifteen years more more longer
ago than that, there was some tough floding for those folks,
those the great dividce had to teach the consumers what
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craft beer was. But now we all know, right, And
so it's really a fun industry for the fun people,
and we're doing cool stuff and we just intend to
make sure that these legacy Colorado brands are celebrated. We're
going to invest behind them in marketing and in sales
efforts and really try to keep the consumers excited about
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the high quality liquid that we're putting out every day.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And finally, Charlie, this is a reminder for our audience
and those that might be just tuning in the Great
Divide tap room opening up in Rhino there.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Exactly where will that be and when will that be?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Oh, we are working on it. It's not as easy,
you know, sometimes with permitting, etcetera, etcetera, it's not as
easy to pick a date and actually hit it. I
hope you can understand that. Oh yeah, we're yeah, so no,
we're over at thirty forty Blake Street. It's going to
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be the new Great Divide and so we really hope
folks we'll come and visit and have a yetti and
a titan and strawberry rubar and then just enjoy, enjoy
the enjoy the environment over there. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So sometime in the fall, and we're working quick.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yes, I think early fall is a good target.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
All right, let's be optimistic early fall. Charlie.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Tell you what, when you do have that date set
and you do know it, let's have you back on
the air.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
We'll talk about it all over again.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
All right, all right, have you over and and anyone
who wants to come, well, we'll drink a yetti together.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I'm going to take you up on that.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Charlie Berger, chief Development Officer for Wilding Brands again, this
turn of good news. Great Divide Brewing. That tap room
coming back to the downtown area, walking distance.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
From coors Field.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It'll be at the Stemsider's location right now in Rhino, TBD. Charlie,
thanks for your time and thanks for all you're doing
for Denver.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Hey, thanks again.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Talk so all right and.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
If you have some thoughts five seven seven three nine.
Like to welcome those of you that are just tuning in.
And yes, sometimes we go off on tangents and we
talk about beer. Shannon doesn't drink beer anymore, but he
used to at one time.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
He enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
He likes watching other people drink beer. And that's cool,
and that's all right.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Is Kelly back? Yet she doesn't drink beer. I know that. No,
I don't know where she went. Let me see here
five seven seven three nine. You can send those texts along.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Have you seen the Asian version of Sidney Sweeney's commercial.
The actress is wearing yellow jeans. See where this is going?
And that's about her? Yell, it's a I think it's
a parody. I don't know that. It's the aged version
like Japan picked up on Sydney Sweeney and wanted to
(11:37):
make it their own. You know, when you're big in Japan.
Alphaville great song, one of my favorites. And we have
determined that Dan Caplis is the official American morning radio
program in Japan because we had a listener call in
this is a couple of years ago now and tell them, Hey,
I'm here in Japan and it's it's early in the morning.
So you know, little did you know Dan Caplis actually
(11:58):
had a morning show at least that's what it is
in Japan.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I want to make sure I reiterate this for those
of you that have been tuned in, and again I
appreciate all of you. George Altts, I've been taxing them
back and forth with him. I'm just really enthralled with
this book that he's written. Tragedy to tribute one father's
grief fuels a passionate journey to change the mindset of
a nation, and that's about establishing this honor and remember
flag is kind of the official go to avatar, if
(12:25):
you will, of those who have served our country and fallen,
that they never be forgotten, and especially for these gold
Star families that are out there. I mean these families
deserve our utmost respect and to make sure that we
show them our appreciation because the families sacrifice too. This
is why I got so enraged, and I know Shannon
(12:48):
did too, and I know a lot of you did
as well. When the thirteen service members that were killed
in the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, their bodies came back to
the United States and Biden showed up on the tarmac
and he could not have been less interested in what
was going on, so much so to the point where
he checked his watch. That's a disgrace and that is unforgivable.
(13:12):
And contrast and compare that if you will. You know,
people don't They don't know a lot about President Trump
behind the scenes or what a.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Genuinely good person he is.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And I know, oh, he's this swashbuckling billionaire, womanizer all
this stuff, and people that paint this picture of this
caricature of him as this bad guy. When the cameras
aren't on, that's when true character is revealed. And with
President Trump, every single one of those gold Star families
said that he reached out to them personally. He wasn't
(13:43):
even president of the United States at that time, but
he knew that they needed to hear from somebody who
would matter in that situation because they weren't hearing from
Joe Biden. And they spoke very publicly about that, and
they fervently supported President Trump during his run for reelection
the second time around.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Why are military service members so devoted to and passionate
about this man, including my buddy Hutch.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He's a Marine Corps veteran.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Never has he ever been as invested in politics as.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
He has been with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And he's the one Hutchy who kind of turned me
on to Trump from the outset. I went down there,
I visited him. This would have been twenty sixteen, spring
of twenty sixteen, and I was a little Marco guy,
because what do I know? I like little Marco.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
He seemed to be kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
He's a Republican, he's a Cuban American and had a
great story to tell along those lines that I could
relate to. He's about my age, you know, He's a
very passionate conservative Republican.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And Hutch wasn't too crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
About his own senator from the state lie he's establishing
it ry, you know, like God on, like you really
think Donald Trump wants to win this thing. I needed
to be convinced that Trump was in it to win it,
like Eiserman, like Rock talks about, like he was really
going to see that through and run a serious campaign,
have serious policy positions.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I think the moment that it turned.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
For me with Donald Trump was the debate with Jeb
Bush where he just eviscerated a Jeb made fun of
all your real tough guy Jeb a real tough guy,
low energy, you know, and he was just ripping on
President George W. Bush and the Iraq War, kind of
(15:32):
bringing this full circle. And I felt the same way.
I felt kind of duped by us getting into that
conflict with Saddam Hussein when it had nothing to do
with the harboring of Hosama bin Laden the Pakistani Afghani border.
That's where one hundred percent of our effort and focus
should have been targeted. But we go on this off
(15:52):
ramp to a Raq. It didn't make a whole lot
of sense to me at the time, but I kind
of went along with it. And then it's revealed there
were no weapons of mass destruction, and if Saddam Hussein
ever had.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I mean, he didn't have ma any more.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Maybe he used them, maybe he hid them he had
time to do that, or maybe he was just bluffing.
Maybe he just wanted people to think he had weapons
of mass destruction because he's this, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Maniacal dictator.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Of course, but when Trump said that, that stood out
to me because he was taking a stand and it
was not a popular one with any Republican party. And
I think that's really where this whole mag of mindset began.
But what it did the Donald Trump approach to foreign
policy and the use of our military is he will
exhaust every diplomatic option and in including strong arm tactics
(16:35):
when it comes to negotiating in those means and in
that realm, and that he will only use our armed
forces as a last resort with targeted strikes like we
did with recently with the Iran nuclear facilities, at minimal
risk to our service members, and that they should not
be putt in harm's way wantonly willy nilly, just because
(16:58):
we're going on wars of This is where the nexus
of say a Donald Trump and a Tulsa Gabbard happens.
And myself, by the way, so what the military families
know is that he values them, that he revers them,
that he values their lives as much as their own
parents do. And he has shown that he has backed
that up with his actions. And that is why, in
(17:19):
my view, I don't know that there's been a president
in our time that has been more robustly almost universally
popular with our members of the armed services. I mean,
Reagan was to a large degree, but I don't think
there's anything that matches the scale of.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Donald Trump and has appealed to them because again.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
They feel like he has their back, that he has
their best interest at heart, that he will do whatever
it takes to make sure that these families, these gold
Star families, are looked after, that they're cared for. And
what he does again behind the scenes, behind closed doors,
without the public seeing it, without the cameras on, and
in fact, many times he doesn't want the cameras on
(17:57):
because he doesn't want it to look like he's doing
it for that reason, and that's why this is such
a an issue that's near and dear to my heart.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And my heart goes out to Georgia A.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Lott, who lost his son Tony in Fallujah almost twenty
years ago on the calendar, and Tony's daughter celebrating her
twentieth birthday that never got to know her father, who
was a true hero that served our country in Iraq, so.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
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Speaker 4 (20:10):
Who was She's a registered Republican?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh now, I love her head?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Is that right? As Sidney Sweeney, you'd be surprised at
how many people are Republicans. That's what I wouldn't have known.
But I'm glad you told me that if Sydney Sweeney
is a registered Republican, I think her head is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
The more I find out about Sidney Sweeney, the more
I like this. Gal. Did you see the video Shannon
of her shooting guns? O man packing heat?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Kelly, you're back. We were worried sick about you. In fact,
here's Eric Manning. Is Kelly still am?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I huh?
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I had a maintenance supprise.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I know.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Okay, you're right though. What do you think of Sidney blasting?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Oh? Do you see that?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
It's kind of like a lady can fire a gun.
I'm just saying, right, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
I'm not a lesbian, but I certainly attracted to hurt
for that.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, I'm gonna say you played one on the radio.
But again, everything the left is doing is making me
like Sydney Sweeney.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
More and more. And I didn't even really know a
lot about her before all this. Here's some I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Know woman that hates her own life. Stop the ad
face being racist or shut up. Here's here's the whole
(21:50):
Enchilada served up neatly for a meal. For one, it's
not that we're against any of these other things that
were being being force fed in the woke media. Well,
we should not have body shaming, and in fact, it's
healthy to be overweighted, and in fact it's not that
lifestyle should not be encouraged. And if you talk to
(22:12):
most people who are overweight, they want to lose weight.
That is for health reasons, not just for esthetic reasons,
although that is part of it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
We should not encourage people to be fat.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now, there are people different kind of genes and I'm
talking about ge n ees, different kind of metabolism that
maybe they're going to carry a little bit more weight.
But you can do it in a healthy manner. You
can pursue a healthy lifestyle. You can eat a healthy diet,
you can exercise, you can do things that is within
(22:44):
your realm of control. You shouldn't say be fat, it's great, No,
it's not great. Don't do it, not recommended, bad for
your heart, gonna have a stroke, can have a heart attack,
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And then you know everything that a check a box
that we're sick of it or just sick of it.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And just because Sidney Sweeney is an attractive, young white
female with blue eyes doesn't mean she's a Nazi. Doesn't
mean we're promoting eugenics. We can appreciate the beauty of
every individual, including those who just happen through no fault
(23:24):
of her own. Okay, what part of this the Sidney
Sweeney pick out of the genetic pool?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
When she was born?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Which menu did she order the following items from?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Blue eyes female white? She didn't order any of that.
She was born that way.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And we should no more villifi Sidney Sweeney for being
a white, blue eyed female than we should villify a
black person with brown eyes, or any or a gay person.
Nobody should. Why do we have to vilify a Sydney
Sweeney and say she's a Nazi. I don't understand this
(24:08):
at all, not even a little bit. And she happens
to be objectively, scientifically attractive.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Trying to turn this around and twist it up now
they did somebody.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Docks her and like go searching for her vote. I
bet she's a Republican if we were to look it
up and find out what she is good Like I said, the.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
More that's revealed by the woke left trying to make
us hate her, I adore her. If you hate her,
that must mean she's great. I don't even know her,
but I'm going to default.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
To that position.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Goodness, gracious Slandrsha with stuff in a second. It's a
little concerning, to put it mildly, but a couple of texts.
First by seven seven three nine Ryan, we all fell
into the bush trap. But the nice thing about we conservative,
we are smart, and we are wise and we wake
up really quick.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Love your show. I love that you listen to this show,
so thank you. And yeah, you know it's like George W.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Bush said, fool me, want shame on you fool me twice?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
We won't get fooled again. One of my favorite all
time W quals. He forgotten his sake, so he just
filled in with the who you can't help.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
But he's funny. He's a funny guy. Remember he was
like talk. There's this other shot. He's in a golf course.
He's talking about form. We will not support terrorists or
those who harbor them.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Now watch this drive.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I gotta put it together like a highlight of all
these W clips that are they're funny, and normally he's
funniest when he's not trying to be funny. But yeah,
that's the thing right here. This text we like to laugh.
We like to have a good time. Shannon's a good
time guy, Kelly's a good time Gaye.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I like to have a good time on the show.
I like to laugh, like to play stuff that's funny.
I like to play bits. Gotta enjoy life, No, no, no,
the Left can't do that. They don't want to enjoy life.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
They want you to be miserable because why because they
are miserable deep down.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
They don't really like themselves. And then this one.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Perhaps the Left is grumpy over this because jeans are
less comfortable for some than spanks or legging stretch.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
To the max.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Kelly, can you speak for personal experience? Jeans versus spanks
are legging stretch to the max. And I think I
know where this text is going with that. Not that
you are, you know, in any way shape, mannor form overweight,
But I'm just saying, are they more comfortable? Do you
like wearing jeans? I don't see you wearing jeans a lot.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Well, first of all, it's it's a short thing.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm very sure you're you're yeah, you're wee little, we little.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
I can't find jeans that actually proportionally, it's difficult for
you yeah. Yeah, I either have to go to the
kids section, which is really embarrassing, okay, and or I
have to kind of go the mom jeans route or
(27:15):
the jag They have this thing jagging.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
No, I'm familiar with that.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yeah, I'm not going to do that, Okay, but I
have You've seen me in jeans before.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Rarely, but yeah, yeah, I enjoy me a good pair
of jeans. I need the relaxed fit, boot cut. And
it's so much different for men, oh obviously, but for me.
I don't like to brag, but I was voted at
best legs in the class of ninety two for Grasslke
High School.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
That's a fact. It was me and Wendy Fierini. That's
what happened.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
But and you beat a girl.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
No, it was one guy, one gal.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
That's how we did all the things, you know, most
likely to succeed, all those things that you vote about
for the yearbook and the senior class. And my brother
and I, you know, take after my dad and then
his dad like got these tree trunk kind of shooling legs,
like especially our thighs, and you know, typically the kind
of fit that maybe the average guy would have in jeans.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
This's thing gonna work well for me.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
I've played tennis with you, so I've seen your legs.
I haven't really looked at them scrutiny to that extreme.
But you know, hey, I don't know. I don't normally
look at guys legs at other things.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Oh okay, On that note, we'll go to break Wow
five seven seven three nine. Do you wear jeans out there?
And if you do, what kind of genes do you prefer?
And are you more likely to buy jeans?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
After all this controversy with Sidney Sweeney's, this is the
kind of thing I do. It's like, Okay, now that
you're that upset about I was gonna buy jeans, but
now that you're being a jerk about it, gonna go
buy some jeans.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Maybe Kelly'll get some. I'm American.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You need to get some American eagle jeans, Kelly, and
show some solidarity with our girl, Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
If they fit me, well, try them out. Okay, Okay,
maybe we'll do that during the break. Ryan.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Those Bush quotes are pure cold. Keep up the great work.
I'm gonna find them and like play like the greatest
hits of w because that man was hilarious. Say what
you will about in his policies, some of which I
was not a big fan of.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Well, get to.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Alan Dershowitz when he came come back. It's one of
those you know, I respect Alan Dershowitz. I think he's
a brilliant legal mind. Usually what he says I'm like
lockstep with. But it's one of those you had me
then you lost me kind of moments. And we'll have
that for you as we close out today's show. After
these words on Ryan schruling Life, let me make.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Two points that would be very controversial and you may
disagree with them completely. Jeffrey Epsley was not a pedophile.
That term has a specific meaning. It means people who
are sexually attracted to pre pubescent girls or boys that
is eleven twelve years old. That's the definition of all
psychiatrists and of the law. Epstein was interested in sixteen
(30:10):
year olds, seventeen year olds, eighteen year olds.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
He was a bad person, did terrible, terrible things.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
The word pedophile is not a correct description of what
he was.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I don't know, dersh Man, Well, what's up with that? No, No,
he's preying upon sixteen and seventeen year olds. There's an
imbalance there. It's not just implied. There's statutory law regarding
these matters, and in various states it changes.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
It's different. Now you can get into semantics about is.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
It worse to want to have relations with a nine,
ten eleven year old, Well, I would say yes, but
it doesn't make going after underage girls who are vulnerable.
He's leaving out entirely context here too. Gallaine Maxwell used
to go on the hunt for young girls for Jeffrey Epstein.
(31:06):
There's a reason why she's in prison. This was appalling behavior.
He wasn't just a bad guy, he's kind of self serving.
This this is even worse.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Number two, he was not a trafficker.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Traffickers make money by selling and enslaving girls.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
What he did is he was.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
A selfish guy who was having sex with all these
sexual contact at least with all these sixteen seventeen year
old her age, and maybe maybe lending them to people
like Prince Andrew.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
We don't know for sure. But he was not a
trafficker in the true sense of the word. That's why
there's no client list. There were no clients.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
What was the word that jumped off the page at
you right there, Kelly, I saw your face. Lending Wait, hell, no,
lending implies ownership. Lending implies I could let you borrow
xyz this sixteen year old seventy Hey, Prince Andrew, got
(32:05):
this girl over here, Let me lend her to you.
Why is that girl yours to lend? Dersh what are
you talking about?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Man?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
It was also photographic evidence. Let's just remember that.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
These girls were manipulated and abused and used. And if
you don't want to use the word traffic, because there
weren't funds involved. This is what he tried to claim.
This was in an interview with Glenn Beck.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
He didn't work for the most sod.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
I know that because I debriefed him when I was
trying to make a deal for him back in two.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Thousand and six seven.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
And he would have told me if he had a deal,
if he was working with the government, because who would
have helped him get a get a clear better deal.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
There's a documentary on Netflix right now about Jeffrey Epstein,
and go ahead and watch that and compare it to again,
this kind of varnished version that Dershowitz is presenting Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
The guy was a monster.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
There's not a strong enough word for who he was
and what he did and the lives that he ruined for.
These girls, they're girls, there's somebody's daughter, they're your sisters,
they're your nieces.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I can't abide this.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I can't abide it at all, Kelly, this is really
disgusting from Alan Dershowitz in my view.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Yeah, I don't know what his whole endgame is with
coming out and saying these things.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well, he was on the list, and you know, he
was kind of implicated at one point, then he was exonerated,
he was Then he's saying released the files. Now he's
saying there aren't files because there weren't clients. Because Epstein
wasn't making money. Epstein became what a billionaire doing what?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Doing what? Leveraging blackmail?
Speaker 5 (33:49):
That was always the assumption.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
That's the business, Brian, neither a borrower nor a lender.
B That's great advice, and I would recommend that you
take it.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Ryan. I don't wear American Eagle jeans.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I'm an old guy, but I did buy American Eagle
stock nice loving it in the last week. Yeah, tired
buying American Eagle jeans wired buying American Eagle stock smart
move Texter, Ryan, I've only found Wranglers to be the
best fitting jeans, but I'm gonna look at American Eagle.
I like wranglers too, used to like LEVI. Some of
(34:24):
those are okay, but yeah, give American Eagle a look.
They're standing in the breach here pissing off the Libs.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
That's reason enough. Oh another one.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Republican women are not only nice to look at, but
when they talk, I want to listen because they're smart
and have common sense, unlike the bat blank crazy leftists
like AOC and Nancy. Are you gonna add a lot
to that list, Jazz and Crackett elan Omar shoot it
to Lee Bana Pressley. I am largely in concurrence with
your take, so thank you. One of your text ares
(34:59):
set it all. The demon rats hate everything and destroy
everything and are never happy. Hence we Republicans are happy individuals.
Hence the demon rat okay, hence Bryan schuling lab back
tomorrow
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