October 8, 2025 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Level of concern and.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Curiosity.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Oh yeah, let's celebrate Kamala Harris drop an F bomb.
She can swear? Yeah, sweet, So we got aoc ripping
on short people and then trying to want that back.
No doubt, that'll be a nominee for our Friday Fool
of the Week. And then Kamala Harris, you know, play
in the Room Blue, as.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We talked about last week.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know Norm MacDonald, Jerry Seinfeld, Comedians in Cars with Coffee,
that great series on Netflix, those two two of the
best to ever do it. Talking about how Rodney Dangerfield
kind of damaged his brand in his image. The guy
was a genius, they maintained, and they looked up to Rodney.
But then Rodney went to Vegas, started wearing Hawaiian shirts,
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started playing.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
The Room a little blue.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Using some profanity, and they thought it took away from
his act. Well, it's really difficult for Kamala hair Is
to take away from her act, her stick. But does
that do it? She's not the only one. Apparently this
is a trend. It's cool to drop the F bomb.
Here is the senator, the minority leader, and said Senate
Chuck Schumer, it's the Schumer shut down talking about you know,
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there's just no way Democrats are going to give in.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So now we're in government shutdown, and you may be
asking yourself, how the hell did we get Donald Trump
and the Republican Party are hell bent on taking healthcare
away from sixty million people, closing community clinics, rural hospitals,
nursing homes. Also they can keep giving tax breaks to
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their billionaire friends.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
It's a disgrace.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So Democrats have three words for this.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
No way.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh, it's literally life or death. We will not let
Republicans blow up our healthcare system.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Now here's the deal too. That was a little video
you could hear the music in the back put out
there on X by Chuck Schumer's team.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I had to add an additional beep there because on
the efing they only took out the U sounded. It
was like, you might as well not have done it,
and I want to make sure we're FCC compliant.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Does that work though?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Is this all that really drives the point home? He said,
no effing way. Oh, I mean, it wasn't just no way,
it was no effing way. So he's serious.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We know that. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
While you were hearing that Zack Seers got in my
ear and you said that the Governor Gavin Newsom has
been trying to kind of broad.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
News appeal, I think, you know, to his political credit.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But he goes on Colbert last night and he was
devising or revealing some different strategy.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That he's now enlisting.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Yeah, just to say, you know, the the edginus, I
guess of his PR group recently. He was kind of
talking about that and his new attempts at leaning into
humor and I guess some levity. I think it was
good that he acknowledged Democrats kind of being a little
stiff and maybe not humorous enough in recent years.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I thought that was accurate.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
But I just feel like they keep missing the obvious point,
which is like, tell people what you're going to do
for them, and not just that you aren't Trump. Yeah,
and I mean that's really been it for several years.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's that we're not Trump. Okay, well what are you?
What are you going to do for me?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
And now it's you know, Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer
doing this sort of performative nonsense.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Love that performative nonsense.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You're exactly right, Zach, but let me offer a theory
as to why they're going on. As Rush Limbaugh used
to say, style over substance, because they have no substance
to answer your question, what did they provide?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
What are they offering as an alternative? Not Trump?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You're exactly right, But their programs, their stances on issues,
their policies don't work. They're quite adversarial to the average
American and they result in more crime, more illegals crossing
the border, higher costs, more taxes. I mean, that does
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not play in Peoria. Ya, who else doesn't play in Peoria?
But she doesn't feel she has to. And in a
way she's right, But in a way she's really wrong,
and I think she might have submarined her chances at
becoming the next governor of California herself. And that's Katie Porter, Folks,
this woman is so bad. So a Republican with this
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lack of skills, with this lack of awareness, with this
lack of ability to communicate and connect, would have been
off the political stage long ago. Because as a Republican,
I'm looking at Mike Johnson right now, Speaker of the House.
He's on with Jake Tapper CNN. He's flexing those muscles.
He's going into the lions den, He's going into the arena.
He's going into an adversarial environment and being interviewed on
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mainstream media by an obvious leftist in Jake Tapper, who
wrote a book trying to undo the bias that Tapper
enlisted throughout Biden's presidency.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh, by the way, he was seeing Now who knew.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
We all knew, But you told Laura Trump she was
crazy for thinking it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And your gas lighting extended.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
To a CNN audience that might not consume media outside
of that silo, outside of that bubble. When you don't
go outside of that bubble, you're not used to being
challenged really on anything. And every time Katie Porter is
stepped out of that bubble and into the arena, old boy,
has she stepped in it? Here's the first of a
sampling on the platter your appetizer menu here during the
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three o'clock hour Mountain Time flash back to twenty twenty two.
Here's another one. I ever heard of? The term minor
attracted persons. Well, that's another far left platform that doesn't
play in Peoria, doesn't play with the average American.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But she's trying to make it happen that.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
The allegation of groomer and pedophile, it is alleging that
a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts
merely because of their identity, their sexual orientation, their tender identity.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Pedophile is not a sexual orientation or an identity. It
is criminal behavior, at least in our society, and it
should be What the hell is she talking about?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
They're not just a criminal because they're attracted to minors, Yeah,
they are.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
What would offer you can't go well a molesting and
assaulting children in a sexual nature as an adult? What's
going on here? Here's another one? It's a whack attack.
Also from twenty twenty two, Katie Porter is asked by
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stop the Hammering Laurence O'Donnell, MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
How do the issues.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Of inflation and abortion overlap in e vent diagram that
Kamala Harris might like.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, Katie Porter found a way.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
How does inflation compare to the newly important in the
sense of the Supreme Court decision pending abortion issue.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
How do those two issues compare?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Well? I don't think they compare.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
I think they actually reinforce each other. So the fact
that things like inflation can happen, and it can become
more expensive to feed your kids and to fuel your car.
Is exactly why people need to be able to be
in charge of how many emails they're going to have
to feed.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So I think the fact that we're seeing.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
This jump in expenses, that we're seeing people having to
pay more in the grocery store, pay more at the pump,
pay more for housing, is a reason that people are
saying I need to be able to make my own
decisions about when and if to start a family.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So I don't think we're going to see them.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
I don't think it's about comparing them or contrasting them.
I think they reinforce for people just how big of
a responsibility it is to take care of a family.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Okay, do you do you have to get pregnant and
then abort the child in order to get to that
square or could we, you know, maybe avoid that altogether.
Seems to me like the shortest just between two lines
there would be preventative, preventative birth control healthcare and not
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using abortion as a means or method of birth control.
That's inky to me as somebody that's not completely fervent
on that issue. But would like to see as few
abortions as possible in our society. Don't think it's good
A pro life person not a pro death person. That's
a real uncomfortable answer there. Well, inflation means we got
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to more babies.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
She's not done, folks, Like I have told.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Christian Toto so many times in the past, if there
is sound to be found, I will find it. Here's
more from Katie Porter as she gets body bagged by
Pierce Morgan of all people. Now, Pierce I think broadly
fits into the same category as Bill Maher, probably as
a classical liberal.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
But he's not a leftist.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
And listen to this exchange Katie Porter, she's a mental midget.
I mean, sorry, that's what aoc where we're going with that, right?
I mean she was saying that you're a spiritually certain way,
you're mentally a certain height.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Uh okay, Well this is a mismatch.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
He should be able to have a civil debate.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
Nobody, including Riley Games, who I disagree with strongly, should be.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Disagree with out of interest.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
I think that it should be up to sporting bodies
to make the decisions about who she said.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
She's wrong.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
I think that what she has done is try to
turn this. We talked about people, you know, becoming using
things to kind of get likes and get clicks.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's not what she's doing now.
Speaker 9 (09:45):
I mean, I've got a truck right against personally, but
all I've seen her do is stand up for women's rights,
to find this and equality. She competed against Lea Thomas,
and it was obviously unfair. Leah Thomas won one of
the races in the NCAA Championship fIF seconds.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I guess a bunch of.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Biological females who simply couldn't keep up. They cannot be right,
I can't be fair.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
That is subtly that I trust. I think our sporting
bodies should be dealing with. And by the way, Riley
is speaking.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
Up for herself and that is her progative and I
respect her free speech.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
I think she's speaking up for pretty much every female
athlete in the world.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Pierce Morgan like seven a total touchdown there with the
extra point Katie Porter zero.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I would like to know, and I don't know the
answer to.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
This, and I don't want to make assumptions, but I
think you can kind of get in my headspace. Do
you think Katie Porter has ever participated in a competitive sport.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I suspect not though, and further to that point, certainly
not in an arena with another biological male. And Bill
Maher makes this point, this is my point, screaming from
the mountaintops.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Was there not?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
The point of Title nine?
Speaker 10 (11:05):
Title nine in the early seventies was something that was
It was a major event in feminism that we finally
have this law that says in colleges right, and I
think high schools do, but definitely colleges, women's sports have
to be given equal to men's sports so that women
are you know, And this led to the WNBA and
lots of other stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
This seems to be the opposite of that. It seems
to be so.
Speaker 10 (11:26):
Many instances I think where wokeness is the opposite of
what I grew up as librials.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Liberalism was let's give the women an equal shop.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Let's put a mail in this women women. I don't
get it. I don't get it either. So Katie Porter,
she's still flailing, still willing.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
To die in this hill, that biological boys and men
should compete in girls and women's sports, because why not?
And if it is going to be an issue, all well,
let the sporting bodies decide that we don't need to intercede.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's crazy.
Speaker 9 (11:56):
I meanwhile, trans people who genuinely want to compete and
that something or whatever it may be, they're.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
The ones that are suffering here.
Speaker 9 (12:04):
They need to be found a way to compete fairly
and justly.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
What's your answer, then, I think there's one or two answers.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
I think they either compete against their biological sex, as
many of them did before, or you create an entirely
new category or a transgender athlete, and then they're able
to compete fairly. But what you cannot do is continue
to allow more and more trans athletes to start decimating
women's records, in some cases irrevocably.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's just not fair.
Speaker 10 (12:32):
Okay, I got to send it there, Stop the fight,
says Bill Maher.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Here's my point in the whole thing. Just look at
a left brain, divorce emotion from it. You know, as
a former high school athlete, myself played junior college baseball.
Zach was an athlete too. Anybody's participate in athletics, man
or woman, Borer, Garrett, girl, you know there's separate categories
for a reason. Right, if gender is truly fluid, and
somebody can just decide.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
One day, I am going to be female, I'm gonna
go on a female spaces, I'm gonna participate for sports.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I dominate those sports biological aspect of that, then why,
if it's fluid, why are we not.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Seeing trans men in any major sport at any level
going on? You know what, I'm a man now.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I was biologically a woman, but I am now a man,
and I am going to participate in pro men's sports,
or college men's sports, or high school boys sports. Show
me those examples, and if they're not any examples there,
why is this only going one way? Further to that point,
we just saw the sentencing for the would be assassin
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of Brett Kavan. I'll say, hi, I'm Sophie. I'm a
woman now, I don't put me in a man's prison.
I want to go with the women. And the sentence
was latent to eight years. Fine for me, the convicted
biological female who now identifies as male, that would rather
that would prefer that would opt in to going into
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a men's prison. Show me that example. Does it exist?
If so, where is it?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Send it to me? Five, seven, seven three nine.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And if not, why not? Because we all know the answer.
This is the Kude Gras right here though. Katie Porter
in a sit down interview with Julie Watt CBS Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I don't know Julie's politics, but she's a good reporter.
Listen to this whole thing. It's a little over three minutes.
Speaker 11 (14:28):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 12 (14:37):
Man?
Speaker 11 (14:38):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, do you think you'll get sixty percent?
All of everybody who did not vote for Trump will
vote for you?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
That's wait?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Wait, you're in a general election?
Speaker 8 (14:47):
Yes, because it's me versus a Republican. I think that
I will win the people who did not vote for tu.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
What if it's you versus another Democrat?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I don't intend that to be the case.
Speaker 11 (14:57):
So how do you not intend that to be the case?
Do you are you going to ask them not to run?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
No?
Speaker 8 (15:01):
No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I
have the support already in terms of name recognition, and
so I'm going to do the very best I can
to make sure that we get through this primary in
a really strong position. But let me be clear with you.
I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I
have stood on my own two feet and one Republican
votes before. That's not something every candidate in this race
can say. If you're from a deep blue area, if
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you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't have
an experience.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Just said you don't need those Trump voters.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
So you asked me if I need them to win?
You don't think this is a necessarily argument. What is
your question?
Speaker 11 (15:34):
The question is the same thing I ask everybody that
this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's
power grab.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Every other candidate has answered this question.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Is it's not I said, I support it.
Speaker 11 (15:46):
So and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Oh, I'm happy to say that it's do you need
them to win?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Parts that I don't understand.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
I'm happy to answer the ques aswer the questions you
haven't written, and I'll answer.
Speaker 11 (15:58):
And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And you're saying, no, you don't know.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote
I can. And what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
To you is that well to those voters.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Okay, so you I don't want to keep doing this,
I'm going to call it.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
You're not going to do the interview with them?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
No, it's not like this.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single
question you asked me.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Every other candidate has answer cares.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I don't care.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you
asked me about every issue on this list. And if
every question you're going to make up a follow up question,
then we're never going to get there and we're just
going to circle around. I had to do this before ever,
You've never had an information too, But.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Every other candidate has done this.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
What part of I'm me? I'm running for governor because
I'm a leader. So I am going to make so.
Speaker 11 (16:54):
You're not going to answer questions from reporters? Okay, why
don't we go through? I will continue to askllow up
questions because that's my job as a journalist but I
will go through and ask these and if you don't
want to answer, you don't want to answer, so nearly
every legislative.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with this,
and I don't want to sell one camera.
Speaker 11 (17:13):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.
I would love to continue to ask these questions and
then we can show our viewers what every candidate feels
about every one of these issues that they care.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
About and redistrier tak it's a massive issue.
Speaker 11 (17:25):
We're going to do an entire story just on the
responses to that question. And I asked everybody the same
follow up questions.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Bravo Julie Watt, CBS Sacramento. She stood her ground, she
didn't blink. She's stuck to the script. She asked follow
up questions. Can you imagine a Republicans? I don't want
you to ask follow up questions?
Speaker 5 (17:42):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I want to tell you how to do your job.
You don't get to ask any follow up questions. What
does Katie Porter.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Think she is? John Hickenlooper A can Loper.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Complain that journalists should be defending his actions?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Of course, should be protecting me on stuff like this. No, no, no,
they should not be.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
An adversarial media is key to getting at the truth
and representing those of us who are watching and those
of you and our listening audience. You don't get to
ask questions like I do to candidates, to people like
George Brockler, Lauren Bolbert.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It is my responsibility then to ask the questions that
you want me to ask, because I'm serving you as
a member of the media, not the candidate.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Add to this, Katie Porter allegedly her ex husband said
boiled potatoes, brought them from the kitchen and dumped the
scalding water on his head. And that's who Katie Porter is.
Cheryl Chrumley Washington Times joins us next on the rise
of anti Semitism in the United States.
Speaker 11 (18:49):
The forty percent of California voters who you'll need in
order to win, who voted for Trump?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 12 (18:57):
Then?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Man? And then this is really the one minute in
between that is the money quote, the pull away and
where it goes from here.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Only Katie Porter knows well to those voters.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Okay, So you. I don't want to keep doing this, so
I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I'm thank you. You're not going to do the interview
with them, No, it's not like this.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single
question you ask.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Every other candidate has a I don't care.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I don't care.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you
asked me about every issue on this list. And if
every question you're going to make up a follow up question,
then we're never going to get there and we're just.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Going to circle around and asative had to do this before.
Speaker 11 (19:44):
Ever, you've never had had an information.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Okay, but every other candidate has done this.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
What part of I'm me?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
I'm running for governor because I'm a leader, So I
am going to make.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So you're not going to Katie Porter with Julie Watts,
CBS Sacramento, Well, joining us now.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
We'll talk about another topic as well.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
But she's a columnist for the Washington Times and hosts
of the Bold and Blunt podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Cheryl Chumley our guest. You can follow her on Exit
c K. Chumley and she joins us now on Ryan
Shirling Live. Cheryl, Welcome back.
Speaker 12 (20:19):
Hi, It's great to be with you. Ryan.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I just want to get your take on the conduct
of Katie Porter in this interview. If you've ever encountered
anything like it in your entire career.
Speaker 12 (20:30):
Yeah, no, Okay, So she says I am running for
governor as if that exempts her from accountability to the people,
which is what the news media represent when they're asking
questions of campaign officials. Right, and look, coincidentally, I have
on bold and blunt tomorrow, I have Steve Hilton, who
is running for governor in California, the Republican, hopefully to
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defeat Katie Porter and put an end to this Democrat
arrogance and all.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Of the other Democrat candidates.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
You know, I always say like Republicans pounds Republican sees
Alex Thompson tweeting out Zager Bessara saying, quote, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Interested in excluding any vote.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Every Californian deserves affordable healthcare, safe streets, a roof over
their head, and a living wage. He wasn't the only one,
Antonio Villa Grossa. We need a leader who will solve
hard problems and answer simple questions. Did this damage her
candidacy and she was viewed I think in some polling,
Cheryl as the front runner in this race, right, she
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was the front runner.
Speaker 12 (21:33):
And I don't know, it's too soon to tell ifate
damages her campaign, but I can say it should damage
her campaign. I mean, she came out and she questions,
do I really need those forty percent voters who voted
for Trump from California. I mean, that's kind of smacking
the face of forty percent of her would be constituents.
And again, this is just the arrogance of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Republicans are guilty.
Speaker 12 (21:58):
Of arrogance in college as well, but nobody does that
better than Democrats, and they do it so shamelessly.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And as she said, you can catch Steve Hilton, a
brilliant man. You've no doubt seen him on Fox News.
He is one of the Republican candidates for governor in California,
and I remember they have jungle primaries there, so it
could end up any which way. Steve Garvey, actually Republican
former Dodger Great ended up in an election head to
head against Adam Schiff, and a lot of times it's
been Democrat versus Democrat.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But I like Hilton's chances.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He'll appear on the Bolden Blunt Podcast with our guest
Cheryl Chumley, so be sure to check that out now.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Cheryl, one of these.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Issues we talk about, like eighty twenty issues where the
Democrats are consistently dying on the wrong side of the hill,
the twenty percent side, that the trans in sports, that
sort of thing. Another issue that's really troubled me and
why I reach out to you. I've had these conversations
over the last couple of days with the two year
commemoration of the October seventh attacks in Israel by Haman Hummas,
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a terrorist organization that's in charge of Gaza, and your
latest entitled Americans tragically immorally are turning against Israel. And
what really concerns me, Cheryl, is that, Yeah, we're seeing
the rise of the anti Semitic left. We've seen it
on college campuses. It's breathless, it's not even cloaked. But
then we're also seeing some of this come from the
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right in the form of Tucker Carlson and Canvas Owens.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
How do you put a fine point on this as
to why.
Speaker 12 (23:25):
It's happening, Well, there are several reasons why it's happening. Right,
the ignorance in the school systems to teach proper American civics,
and Israel's long standing partnership with America that has led
to much of what you're seeing on college campuses. Right.
That along with well funded pro Hamas anti Israel factions
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that have really taken advantage of first the Joe Biden
administration then pushing through into the Trump administration to bring
these thuggish protests to the streets of an America. But really,
Americans are never really very interested in foreign affairs until
it can be shown that it impacts them directly.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right.
Speaker 12 (24:11):
We have a low tolerance for long term type of
issues or wars, and I think that too many Americans
don't understand the particular war that Israel is engaged in.
It's not like any other war, right, It's not Ukraine Russia,
It's not any other war that has.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Gone forth in history.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
Israel's war is really America's war as well. It's all
of civil society's war. So for Americans to turn against
Israel and.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Run with that un.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
Narrative that yes, Israel has a right to defend itself,
but it's gone too far, that's an ignorance that really
is a dangerous path to tread, because remember the chant
is death to Israel, death to America, death to the West,
and they actually mean that.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Cheryl Chumley our guest on X formerly known as Twitter.
She's at C K. Chumley, c h U M L.
E Y, also at the Washington Times, also the host
of the Bold and Blunt podcast, so her time is short.
We appreciate her spending some of it with us here today. Cheryl,
I want to follow up on that point, make it
a little bit broader, because I'm really struggling to understand.
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This is a point that Bill Maher has made, you know,
a classical liberal himself, about the predominance a lot of
this anti Israel sentiment, anti Semitism in general, cloaked and
anti Zionism, is from coastal liberal elites.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And it's directly.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Proportional many times with the so called college education that
makes people more informed. Ben Shapiro's made this point through
recent polling as well, and it's predominant in women. And
so what I'm struggling with, and I'd like you to
speak to it obviously as a woman, but that there
are two stances right now that are inherently anti woman,
and that is the urgence of transgender participation, women's girls,
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sports and spaces, and direct violation of Title nine. That's
against any kind of second wave feminism. Gloria steinem Ruth
Bader Ginsburg, JK. Rowling, and several examples, Martina and Avertalova,
even who's a liberal in every other sense.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
That's one point. And then this defense of.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Sharia law of the Arab nation states in the Middle
East that are inherently anti woman.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And anti gay, and that Israel is a.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Beacon of hope for both women and lgbtq's. They're more
accepted there than at any other point in history and
at any other destination in the Middle East. How do
you square that liberal perspective, especially of women, on those
two issues.
Speaker 12 (26:42):
So I'm still trying to figure out why women were
silent when Bill Clinton was president, right, and he was
caught with his pants down, right basically, and you know,
the normal liberal women's rights organizations were either silent or
in defense of Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
So if you're asking me to speak to.
Speaker 12 (27:05):
The issue of why women are doing this, it's puzzling
to me. You're absolutely right, some of these same women
who are out here in America, the crying Republicans, specifically
MAGA and Trump by saying that the MAGA types want
to keep women in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. Right,
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they want to real bad time so women have no rights.
They're the same ones that are supporting the Palestinians and
waving the rainbow flag, while at the same time they're
supporting Hamas type groups that would be the first ones
to toss them off the top of the building or
throw them in a burka and keep them in the
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kitchen and strip them of all their civil God given
liberties and rights. And so it's a puzzle to me.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
The only thing I can think of is.
Speaker 12 (27:55):
It's entirely emotion driven, right, It's just people. It caught
up in a fray of wanting to protest what Donald
Trump stands for and what this administration is advocating for.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Their knee jerk reaction is to get.
Speaker 12 (28:09):
Out in the streets and just protest the exact opposite
without thinking.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So well put such a hypocrisy, and it's almost impossible
to explain.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
But Cheryl Chumley did a very good job of it.
Right there. You can read her latest.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Americans tragically immorally are turning against Israel's sub had. Israel's war,
is America's war, is civil society's war, and support for
Israel should not wane. Cheryl Chumley also the host of
the Bolden Blunt podcast. You'll have Republican candidate for Governor
Steve Hilton on tomorrow in California. There and she, of
course writes as an a columnist for The Washington Times.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Follow her on exit.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
C K.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Chumley, Cheryl, always grateful for your time. Thank you so
much for joining us here today.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
All right, Cheryl Chumley, right there five seven, seven thirty nine.
Your texts to close out Tiger Tiger baseball team coming
back from three to nothing down. Now they're up. They
might force a game five. So I'm pretty pumped here.
I'm Ryan Schuling Live. I appreciate you being along for
the ride along with Zach Seegers. I am the afore
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mentioned Ryan Schuling. You're text at five seven seven three nine. Ryan,
Why would you assume Katie Porter has never played competitive sports?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I don't think I know a single female that hasn't. Well,
kudos to you. I know a lot of women that
havebit My own mother for one one of the least athletic.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
People I've ever met, and she didn't really care for sports.
She didn't understand why I was so important. And I
think sports are extremely important for young people because it
teaches you the value of teamwork, of self sacrifice, of
contributing to a greater good and a greater.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Goal than just yourself. I'm talking about team sports now.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
My sister Angie, I don't know that she ever attempted.
I think she might have tried to run cross country
at one time. I know my niece does, but she
wasn't really into the whole sports thing. My baby's Lizzie
did play softball for a time, and I helped teach
her that. But there's a lot of girls that don't
play sports. And the reason I assume Katie Porter hasn't,
and why I know Martina and Abertilova has, it's because
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she don't understand the fundamental physiological, biological, structural differences between
men and women and why there are separate sports categories.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
In the first place.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Martina point blank admits if she had to play Jimmy
Connors or John McEnroe back in the day when they
were both in their primes, either Martina versus Connors or
versus McEnroe.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
She'd gets schooled.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Serena Williams was famously on with David Letterman and said,
Andy Marie kept wanting a play her.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
She's like, I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
He beat me six love, six love, And it doesn't
mean Serena is any less than Serena is the greatest
women's tennis player ever. But he's not a man. I
don't know why this is so hard to comprehend, but
my feeling is it's more sinister than that that Katie
Porter knows damn well that there are differences, but she
doesn't have the courage the audacity to stand up for
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somebody other than her like she did in that interview
setting that we heard. I mean, what a debacle, what
a disaster for her, Ryan, please nominate her for Fool
the Week.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Oh, she's gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
And so is AOC for trying to walk back her
blast on Steven Miller being four foot ten, and then
she tried to pay tribute to her short kings out
there in a nice try, nice try AOC. Okay, Ryan,
if I was a Republican voter in California. I'd tell him,
is porter that I wouldn't vote for her because I
don't want to have a scalding water unpleasant time with her.
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Petty Patty. That's what her ex husband claimed. Now it's
his word against hers, but that she took a boiling
pot of potatoes and the hot water from then dumped
it on his head. Scalding water burned him. Says she's
a mad woman. It mnds be a lot of the
Kathy Bates character from misery. A lot of people are
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making those mean comparisons online right now, and they might
be more apt than we know. Ryan when it comes
to figuring out how to limit the number of children
one has from an old guy, the Texter says, my
parents told us that an aspirin can solve that. Put
a single aspirin between your knees problems. So yes, indeed,
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Ryan Schumer should be in jail. He incited the pos
that tried to kill Justice Kavanaugh.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, it's the whole Uh you know, you go are.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Such you Kavanaugh? You're gonna reap the whirlwind. Yeah no,
see that's okay. Coming from the left, they can incite
violence all they want. They can commit violence all they want.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's a leftist that.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Killed Charlie Kirk, but they don't want to go there,
and they don't want to admit that the rhetoric's too
hot on their side, not saying that there isn't some
on our side that needs to be cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
But it's simply not happening.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
When Joe Biden claimed that white supremacists were the biggest
domestic terrorists in the country, show me the examples of that.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Where is that happening? I can show you plenty.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Of examples where leftists are committing violence time and again,
trying to assassinate Donald Try Trump did assassinate Charlie Kirk,
tried to assassinate Steve Scullies. The list goes on on
that side. Provide examples of your work on the other side.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
But I'll do it for me for now. From here go, Tigers.
Dan Kaplis is next.
Level of concern and.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Curiosity.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Oh yeah, let's celebrate Kamala Harris drop an F bomb.
She can swear? Yeah, sweet, So we got aoc ripping
on short people and then trying to want that back.
No doubt, that'll be a nominee for our Friday Fool
of the Week. And then Kamala Harris, you know, play
in the Room Blue, as.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We talked about last week.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know Norm MacDonald, Jerry Seinfeld, Comedians in Cars with Coffee,
that great series on Netflix, those two two of the
best to ever do it. Talking about how Rodney Dangerfield
kind of damaged his brand in his image. The guy
was a genius, they maintained, and they looked up to Rodney.
But then Rodney went to Vegas, started wearing Hawaiian shirts,
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started playing.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
The Room a little blue.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Using some profanity, and they thought it took away from
his act. Well, it's really difficult for Kamala hair Is
to take away from her act, her stick. But does
that do it? She's not the only one. Apparently this
is a trend. It's cool to drop the F bomb.
Here is the senator, the minority leader, and said Senate
Chuck Schumer, it's the Schumer shut down talking about you know,
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there's just no way Democrats are going to give in.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So now we're in government shutdown, and you may be
asking yourself, how the hell did we get Donald Trump
and the Republican Party are hell bent on taking healthcare
away from sixty million people, closing community clinics, rural hospitals,
nursing homes. Also they can keep giving tax breaks to
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their billionaire friends.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
It's a disgrace.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So Democrats have three words for this.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
No way.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Oh, it's literally life or death. We will not let
Republicans blow up our healthcare system.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Now here's the deal too. That was a little video
you could hear the music in the back put out
there on X by Chuck Schumer's team.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I had to add an additional beep there because on
the efing they only took out the U sounded. It
was like, you might as well not have done it,
and I want to make sure we're FCC compliant.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Does that work though?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Is this all that really drives the point home? He said,
no effing way. Oh, I mean, it wasn't just no way,
it was no effing way. So he's serious.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
We know that. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
While you were hearing that Zack Seers got in my
ear and you said that the Governor Gavin Newsom has
been trying to kind of broad.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
News appeal, I think, you know, to his political credit.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But he goes on Colbert last night and he was
devising or revealing some different strategy.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That he's now enlisting.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Yeah, just to say, you know, the the edginus, I
guess of his PR group recently. He was kind of
talking about that and his new attempts at leaning into
humor and I guess some levity. I think it was
good that he acknowledged Democrats kind of being a little
stiff and maybe not humorous enough in recent years.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I thought that was accurate.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
But I just feel like they keep missing the obvious point,
which is like, tell people what you're going to do
for them, and not just that you aren't Trump. Yeah,
and I mean that's really been it for several years.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's that we're not Trump. Okay, well what are you?
What are you going to do for me?
Speaker 6 (03:18):
And now it's you know, Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer
doing this sort of performative nonsense.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Love that performative nonsense.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You're exactly right, Zach, but let me offer a theory
as to why they're going on. As Rush Limbaugh used
to say, style over substance, because they have no substance
to answer your question, what did they provide?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
What are they offering as an alternative? Not Trump?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You're exactly right, But their programs, their stances on issues,
their policies don't work. They're quite adversarial to the average
American and they result in more crime, more illegals crossing
the border, higher costs, more taxes. I mean, that does
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not play in Peoria. Ya, who else doesn't play in Peoria?
But she doesn't feel she has to. And in a
way she's right, But in a way she's really wrong,
and I think she might have submarined her chances at
becoming the next governor of California herself. And that's Katie Porter, Folks,
this woman is so bad. So a Republican with this
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lack of skills, with this lack of awareness, with this
lack of ability to communicate and connect, would have been
off the political stage long ago. Because as a Republican,
I'm looking at Mike Johnson right now, Speaker of the House.
He's on with Jake Tapper CNN. He's flexing those muscles.
He's going into the lions den, He's going into the arena.
He's going into an adversarial environment and being interviewed on
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mainstream media by an obvious leftist in Jake Tapper, who
wrote a book trying to undo the bias that Tapper
enlisted throughout Biden's presidency.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh, by the way, he was seeing Now who knew.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
We all knew, But you told Laura Trump she was
crazy for thinking it.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And your gas lighting extended.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
To a CNN audience that might not consume media outside
of that silo, outside of that bubble. When you don't
go outside of that bubble, you're not used to being
challenged really on anything. And every time Katie Porter is
stepped out of that bubble and into the arena, old boy,
has she stepped in it? Here's the first of a
sampling on the platter your appetizer menu here during the
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three o'clock hour Mountain Time flash back to twenty twenty two.
Here's another one. I ever heard of? The term minor
attracted persons. Well, that's another far left platform that doesn't
play in Peoria, doesn't play with the average American.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But she's trying to make it happen that.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
The allegation of groomer and pedophile, it is alleging that
a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts
merely because of their identity, their sexual orientation, their tender identity.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Pedophile is not a sexual orientation or an identity. It
is criminal behavior, at least in our society, and it
should be What the hell is she talking about?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
They're not just a criminal because they're attracted to minors, Yeah,
they are.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
What would offer you can't go well a molesting and
assaulting children in a sexual nature as an adult? What's
going on here? Here's another one? It's a whack attack.
Also from twenty twenty two, Katie Porter is asked by
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stop the Hammering Laurence O'Donnell, MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
How do the issues.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Of inflation and abortion overlap in e vent diagram that
Kamala Harris might like.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, Katie Porter found a way.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
How does inflation compare to the newly important in the
sense of the Supreme Court decision pending abortion issue.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
How do those two issues compare?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Well? I don't think they compare.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
I think they actually reinforce each other. So the fact
that things like inflation can happen, and it can become
more expensive to feed your kids and to fuel your car.
Is exactly why people need to be able to be
in charge of how many emails they're going to have
to feed.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
So I think the fact that we're seeing.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
This jump in expenses, that we're seeing people having to
pay more in the grocery store, pay more at the pump,
pay more for housing, is a reason that people are
saying I need to be able to make my own
decisions about when and if to start a family.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So I don't think we're going to see them.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
I don't think it's about comparing them or contrasting them.
I think they reinforce for people just how big of
a responsibility it is to take care of a family.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Okay, do you do you have to get pregnant and
then abort the child in order to get to that
square or could we, you know, maybe avoid that altogether.
Seems to me like the shortest just between two lines
there would be preventative, preventative birth control healthcare and not
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using abortion as a means or method of birth control.
That's inky to me as somebody that's not completely fervent
on that issue. But would like to see as few
abortions as possible in our society. Don't think it's good
A pro life person not a pro death person. That's
a real uncomfortable answer there. Well, inflation means we got
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to more babies.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
She's not done, folks, Like I have told.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Christian Toto so many times in the past, if there
is sound to be found, I will find it. Here's
more from Katie Porter as she gets body bagged by
Pierce Morgan of all people. Now, Pierce I think broadly
fits into the same category as Bill Maher, probably as
a classical liberal.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
But he's not a leftist.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
And listen to this exchange Katie Porter, she's a mental midget.
I mean, sorry, that's what aoc where we're going with that, right?
I mean she was saying that you're a spiritually certain way,
you're mentally a certain height.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Uh okay, Well this is a mismatch.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
He should be able to have a civil debate.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
Nobody, including Riley Games, who I disagree with strongly, should be.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Disagree with out of interest.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
I think that it should be up to sporting bodies
to make the decisions about who she said.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
She's wrong.
Speaker 8 (09:35):
I think that what she has done is try to
turn this. We talked about people, you know, becoming using
things to kind of get likes and get clicks.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's not what she's doing now.
Speaker 9 (09:45):
I mean, I've got a truck right against personally, but
all I've seen her do is stand up for women's rights,
to find this and equality. She competed against Lea Thomas,
and it was obviously unfair. Leah Thomas won one of
the races in the NCAA Championship fIF seconds.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I guess a bunch of.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Biological females who simply couldn't keep up. They cannot be right,
I can't be fair.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
That is subtly that I trust. I think our sporting
bodies should be dealing with. And by the way, Riley
is speaking.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
Up for herself and that is her progative and I
respect her free speech.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
I think she's speaking up for pretty much every female
athlete in the world.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Pierce Morgan like seven a total touchdown there with the
extra point Katie Porter zero.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I would like to know, and I don't know the
answer to.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
This, and I don't want to make assumptions, but I
think you can kind of get in my headspace. Do
you think Katie Porter has ever participated in a competitive sport.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I suspect not though, and further to that point, certainly
not in an arena with another biological male. And Bill
Maher makes this point, this is my point, screaming from
the mountaintops.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Was there not?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
The point of Title nine?
Speaker 10 (11:05):
Title nine in the early seventies was something that was
It was a major event in feminism that we finally
have this law that says in colleges right, and I
think high schools do, but definitely colleges, women's sports have
to be given equal to men's sports so that women
are you know, And this led to the WNBA and
lots of other stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
This seems to be the opposite of that. It seems
to be so.
Speaker 10 (11:26):
Many instances I think where wokeness is the opposite of
what I grew up as librials.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Liberalism was let's give the women an equal shop.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Let's put a mail in this women women. I don't
get it. I don't get it either. So Katie Porter,
she's still flailing, still willing.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
To die in this hill, that biological boys and men
should compete in girls and women's sports, because why not?
And if it is going to be an issue, all well,
let the sporting bodies decide that we don't need to intercede.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's crazy.
Speaker 9 (11:56):
I meanwhile, trans people who genuinely want to compete and
that something or whatever it may be, they're.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
The ones that are suffering here.
Speaker 9 (12:04):
They need to be found a way to compete fairly
and justly.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
What's your answer, then, I think there's one or two answers.
Speaker 9 (12:10):
I think they either compete against their biological sex, as
many of them did before, or you create an entirely
new category or a transgender athlete, and then they're able
to compete fairly. But what you cannot do is continue
to allow more and more trans athletes to start decimating
women's records, in some cases irrevocably.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's just not fair.
Speaker 10 (12:32):
Okay, I got to send it there, Stop the fight,
says Bill Maher.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Here's my point in the whole thing. Just look at
a left brain, divorce emotion from it. You know, as
a former high school athlete, myself played junior college baseball.
Zach was an athlete too. Anybody's participate in athletics, man
or woman, Borer, Garrett, girl, you know there's separate categories
for a reason. Right, if gender is truly fluid, and
somebody can just decide.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
One day, I am going to be female, I'm gonna
go on a female spaces, I'm gonna participate for sports.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I dominate those sports biological aspect of that, then why,
if it's fluid, why are we not.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Seeing trans men in any major sport at any level
going on? You know what, I'm a man now.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I was biologically a woman, but I am now a man,
and I am going to participate in pro men's sports,
or college men's sports, or high school boys sports. Show
me those examples, and if they're not any examples there,
why is this only going one way? Further to that point,
we just saw the sentencing for the would be assassin
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of Brett Kavan. I'll say, hi, I'm Sophie. I'm a
woman now, I don't put me in a man's prison.
I want to go with the women. And the sentence
was latent to eight years. Fine for me, the convicted
biological female who now identifies as male, that would rather
that would prefer that would opt in to going into
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a men's prison. Show me that example. Does it exist?
If so, where is it?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Send it to me? Five, seven, seven three nine.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And if not, why not? Because we all know the answer.
This is the Kude Gras right here though. Katie Porter
in a sit down interview with Julie Watt CBS Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I don't know Julie's politics, but she's a good reporter.
Listen to this whole thing. It's a little over three minutes.
Speaker 11 (14:28):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 12 (14:37):
Man?
Speaker 11 (14:38):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, do you think you'll get sixty percent?
All of everybody who did not vote for Trump will
vote for you?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
That's wait?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Wait, you're in a general election?
Speaker 8 (14:47):
Yes, because it's me versus a Republican. I think that
I will win the people who did not vote for tu.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
What if it's you versus another Democrat?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I don't intend that to be the case.
Speaker 11 (14:57):
So how do you not intend that to be the case?
Do you are you going to ask them not to run?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
No?
Speaker 8 (15:01):
No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I
have the support already in terms of name recognition, and
so I'm going to do the very best I can
to make sure that we get through this primary in
a really strong position. But let me be clear with you.
I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I
have stood on my own two feet and one Republican
votes before. That's not something every candidate in this race
can say. If you're from a deep blue area, if
(15:23):
you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't have
an experience.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Just said you don't need those Trump voters.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
So you asked me if I need them to win?
You don't think this is a necessarily argument. What is
your question?
Speaker 11 (15:34):
The question is the same thing I ask everybody that
this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's
power grab.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Every other candidate has answered this question.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Is it's not I said, I support it.
Speaker 11 (15:46):
So and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
Oh, I'm happy to say that it's do you need
them to win?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Parts that I don't understand.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
I'm happy to answer the ques aswer the questions you
haven't written, and I'll answer.
Speaker 11 (15:58):
And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And you're saying, no, you don't know.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote
I can. And what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
To you is that well to those voters.
Speaker 8 (16:12):
Okay, so you I don't want to keep doing this,
I'm going to call it.
Speaker 11 (16:15):
You're not going to do the interview with them?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
No, it's not like this.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single
question you asked me.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Every other candidate has answer cares.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I don't care.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you
asked me about every issue on this list. And if
every question you're going to make up a follow up question,
then we're never going to get there and we're just
going to circle around. I had to do this before ever,
You've never had an information too, But.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Every other candidate has done this.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
What part of I'm me? I'm running for governor because
I'm a leader. So I am going to make so.
Speaker 11 (16:54):
You're not going to answer questions from reporters? Okay, why
don't we go through? I will continue to askllow up
questions because that's my job as a journalist but I
will go through and ask these and if you don't
want to answer, you don't want to answer, so nearly
every legislative.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with this,
and I don't want to sell one camera.
Speaker 11 (17:13):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.
I would love to continue to ask these questions and
then we can show our viewers what every candidate feels
about every one of these issues that they care.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
About and redistrier tak it's a massive issue.
Speaker 11 (17:25):
We're going to do an entire story just on the
responses to that question. And I asked everybody the same
follow up questions.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Bravo Julie Watt, CBS Sacramento. She stood her ground, she
didn't blink. She's stuck to the script. She asked follow
up questions. Can you imagine a Republicans? I don't want
you to ask follow up questions?
Speaker 5 (17:42):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I want to tell you how to do your job.
You don't get to ask any follow up questions. What
does Katie Porter.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Think she is? John Hickenlooper A can Loper.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Complain that journalists should be defending his actions?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Of course, should be protecting me on stuff like this. No, no, no,
they should not be.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
An adversarial media is key to getting at the truth
and representing those of us who are watching and those
of you and our listening audience. You don't get to
ask questions like I do to candidates, to people like
George Brockler, Lauren Bolbert.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It is my responsibility then to ask the questions that
you want me to ask, because I'm serving you as
a member of the media, not the candidate.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Add to this, Katie Porter allegedly her ex husband said
boiled potatoes, brought them from the kitchen and dumped the
scalding water on his head. And that's who Katie Porter is.
Cheryl Chrumley Washington Times joins us next on the rise
of anti Semitism in the United States.
Speaker 11 (18:49):
The forty percent of California voters who you'll need in
order to win, who voted for Trump?
Speaker 5 (18:55):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 12 (18:57):
Then?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Man? And then this is really the one minute in
between that is the money quote, the pull away and
where it goes from here.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Only Katie Porter knows well to those voters.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Okay, So you. I don't want to keep doing this, so
I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I'm thank you. You're not going to do the interview
with them, No, it's not like this.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single
question you ask.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Every other candidate has a I don't care.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I don't care.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you
asked me about every issue on this list. And if
every question you're going to make up a follow up question,
then we're never going to get there and we're just.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Going to circle around and asative had to do this before.
Speaker 11 (19:44):
Ever, you've never had had an information.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Okay, but every other candidate has done this.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
What part of I'm me?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
I'm running for governor because I'm a leader, So I
am going to make.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So you're not going to Katie Porter with Julie Watts,
CBS Sacramento, Well, joining us now.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
We'll talk about another topic as well.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
But she's a columnist for the Washington Times and hosts
of the Bold and Blunt podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Cheryl Chumley our guest. You can follow her on Exit
c K. Chumley and she joins us now on Ryan
Shirling Live. Cheryl, Welcome back.
Speaker 12 (20:19):
Hi, It's great to be with you. Ryan.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I just want to get your take on the conduct
of Katie Porter in this interview. If you've ever encountered
anything like it in your entire career.
Speaker 12 (20:30):
Yeah, no, Okay, So she says I am running for
governor as if that exempts her from accountability to the people,
which is what the news media represent when they're asking
questions of campaign officials. Right, and look, coincidentally, I have
on bold and blunt tomorrow, I have Steve Hilton, who
is running for governor in California, the Republican, hopefully to
(20:55):
defeat Katie Porter and put an end to this Democrat
arrogance and all.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Of the other Democrat candidates.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
You know, I always say like Republicans pounds Republican sees
Alex Thompson tweeting out Zager Bessara saying, quote, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Interested in excluding any vote.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Every Californian deserves affordable healthcare, safe streets, a roof over
their head, and a living wage. He wasn't the only one,
Antonio Villa Grossa. We need a leader who will solve
hard problems and answer simple questions. Did this damage her
candidacy and she was viewed I think in some polling,
Cheryl as the front runner in this race, right, she
(21:32):
was the front runner.
Speaker 12 (21:33):
And I don't know, it's too soon to tell ifate
damages her campaign, but I can say it should damage
her campaign. I mean, she came out and she questions,
do I really need those forty percent voters who voted
for Trump from California. I mean, that's kind of smacking
the face of forty percent of her would be constituents.
And again, this is just the arrogance of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Republicans are guilty.
Speaker 12 (21:58):
Of arrogance in college as well, but nobody does that
better than Democrats, and they do it so shamelessly.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And as she said, you can catch Steve Hilton, a
brilliant man. You've no doubt seen him on Fox News.
He is one of the Republican candidates for governor in California,
and I remember they have jungle primaries there, so it
could end up any which way. Steve Garvey, actually Republican
former Dodger Great ended up in an election head to
head against Adam Schiff, and a lot of times it's
been Democrat versus Democrat.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But I like Hilton's chances.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He'll appear on the Bolden Blunt Podcast with our guest
Cheryl Chumley, so be sure to check that out now.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Cheryl, one of these.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Issues we talk about, like eighty twenty issues where the
Democrats are consistently dying on the wrong side of the hill,
the twenty percent side, that the trans in sports, that
sort of thing. Another issue that's really troubled me and
why I reach out to you. I've had these conversations
over the last couple of days with the two year
commemoration of the October seventh attacks in Israel by Haman Hummas,
(22:57):
a terrorist organization that's in charge of Gaza, and your
latest entitled Americans tragically immorally are turning against Israel. And
what really concerns me, Cheryl, is that, Yeah, we're seeing
the rise of the anti Semitic left. We've seen it
on college campuses. It's breathless, it's not even cloaked. But
then we're also seeing some of this come from the
(23:18):
right in the form of Tucker Carlson and Canvas Owens.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
How do you put a fine point on this as
to why.
Speaker 12 (23:25):
It's happening, Well, there are several reasons why it's happening. Right,
the ignorance in the school systems to teach proper American civics,
and Israel's long standing partnership with America that has led
to much of what you're seeing on college campuses. Right.
That along with well funded pro Hamas anti Israel factions
(23:49):
that have really taken advantage of first the Joe Biden
administration then pushing through into the Trump administration to bring
these thuggish protests to the streets of an America. But really,
Americans are never really very interested in foreign affairs until
it can be shown that it impacts them directly.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right.
Speaker 12 (24:11):
We have a low tolerance for long term type of
issues or wars, and I think that too many Americans
don't understand the particular war that Israel is engaged in.
It's not like any other war, right, It's not Ukraine Russia,
It's not any other war that has.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Gone forth in history.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
Israel's war is really America's war as well. It's all
of civil society's war. So for Americans to turn against
Israel and.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Run with that un.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
Narrative that yes, Israel has a right to defend itself,
but it's gone too far, that's an ignorance that really
is a dangerous path to tread, because remember the chant
is death to Israel, death to America, death to the West,
and they actually mean that.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Cheryl Chumley our guest on X formerly known as Twitter.
She's at C K. Chumley, c h U M L.
E Y, also at the Washington Times, also the host
of the Bold and Blunt podcast, so her time is short.
We appreciate her spending some of it with us here today. Cheryl,
I want to follow up on that point, make it
a little bit broader, because I'm really struggling to understand.
(25:23):
This is a point that Bill Maher has made, you know,
a classical liberal himself, about the predominance a lot of
this anti Israel sentiment, anti Semitism in general, cloaked and
anti Zionism, is from coastal liberal elites.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And it's directly.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Proportional many times with the so called college education that
makes people more informed. Ben Shapiro's made this point through
recent polling as well, and it's predominant in women. And
so what I'm struggling with, and I'd like you to
speak to it obviously as a woman, but that there
are two stances right now that are inherently anti woman,
and that is the urgence of transgender participation, women's girls,
(26:02):
sports and spaces, and direct violation of Title nine. That's
against any kind of second wave feminism. Gloria steinem Ruth
Bader Ginsburg, JK. Rowling, and several examples, Martina and Avertalova,
even who's a liberal in every other sense.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
That's one point. And then this defense of.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Sharia law of the Arab nation states in the Middle
East that are inherently anti woman.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
And anti gay, and that Israel is a.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Beacon of hope for both women and lgbtq's. They're more
accepted there than at any other point in history and
at any other destination in the Middle East. How do
you square that liberal perspective, especially of women, on those
two issues.
Speaker 12 (26:42):
So I'm still trying to figure out why women were
silent when Bill Clinton was president, right, and he was
caught with his pants down, right basically, and you know,
the normal liberal women's rights organizations were either silent or
in defense of Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
So if you're asking me to speak to.
Speaker 12 (27:05):
The issue of why women are doing this, it's puzzling
to me. You're absolutely right, some of these same women
who are out here in America, the crying Republicans, specifically
MAGA and Trump by saying that the MAGA types want
to keep women in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. Right,
(27:26):
they want to real bad time so women have no rights.
They're the same ones that are supporting the Palestinians and
waving the rainbow flag, while at the same time they're
supporting Hamas type groups that would be the first ones
to toss them off the top of the building or
throw them in a burka and keep them in the
(27:47):
kitchen and strip them of all their civil God given
liberties and rights. And so it's a puzzle to me.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
The only thing I can think of is.
Speaker 12 (27:55):
It's entirely emotion driven, right, It's just people. It caught
up in a fray of wanting to protest what Donald
Trump stands for and what this administration is advocating for.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Their knee jerk reaction is to get.
Speaker 12 (28:09):
Out in the streets and just protest the exact opposite
without thinking.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So well put such a hypocrisy, and it's almost impossible
to explain.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
But Cheryl Chumley did a very good job of it.
Right there. You can read her latest.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Americans tragically immorally are turning against Israel's sub had. Israel's war,
is America's war, is civil society's war, and support for
Israel should not wane. Cheryl Chumley also the host of
the Bolden Blunt podcast. You'll have Republican candidate for Governor
Steve Hilton on tomorrow in California. There and she, of
course writes as an a columnist for The Washington Times.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Follow her on exit.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
C K.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Chumley, Cheryl, always grateful for your time. Thank you so
much for joining us here today.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
All right, Cheryl Chumley, right there five seven, seven thirty nine.
Your texts to close out Tiger Tiger baseball team coming
back from three to nothing down. Now they're up. They
might force a game five. So I'm pretty pumped here.
I'm Ryan Schuling Live. I appreciate you being along for
the ride along with Zach Seegers. I am the afore
(29:13):
mentioned Ryan Schuling. You're text at five seven seven three nine. Ryan,
Why would you assume Katie Porter has never played competitive sports?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I don't think I know a single female that hasn't. Well,
kudos to you. I know a lot of women that
havebit My own mother for one one of the least athletic.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
People I've ever met, and she didn't really care for sports.
She didn't understand why I was so important. And I
think sports are extremely important for young people because it
teaches you the value of teamwork, of self sacrifice, of
contributing to a greater good and a greater.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Goal than just yourself. I'm talking about team sports now.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
My sister Angie, I don't know that she ever attempted.
I think she might have tried to run cross country
at one time. I know my niece does, but she
wasn't really into the whole sports thing. My baby's Lizzie
did play softball for a time, and I helped teach
her that. But there's a lot of girls that don't
play sports. And the reason I assume Katie Porter hasn't,
and why I know Martina and Abertilova has, it's because
(30:09):
she don't understand the fundamental physiological, biological, structural differences between
men and women and why there are separate sports categories.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
In the first place.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Martina point blank admits if she had to play Jimmy
Connors or John McEnroe back in the day when they
were both in their primes, either Martina versus Connors or
versus McEnroe.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
She'd gets schooled.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Serena Williams was famously on with David Letterman and said,
Andy Marie kept wanting a play her.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
She's like, I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
He beat me six love, six love, And it doesn't
mean Serena is any less than Serena is the greatest
women's tennis player ever. But he's not a man. I
don't know why this is so hard to comprehend, but
my feeling is it's more sinister than that that Katie
Porter knows damn well that there are differences, but she
doesn't have the courage the audacity to stand up for
(30:58):
somebody other than her like she did in that interview
setting that we heard. I mean, what a debacle, what
a disaster for her, Ryan, please nominate her for Fool
the Week.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Oh, she's gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
And so is AOC for trying to walk back her
blast on Steven Miller being four foot ten, and then
she tried to pay tribute to her short kings out
there in a nice try, nice try AOC. Okay, Ryan,
if I was a Republican voter in California. I'd tell him,
is porter that I wouldn't vote for her because I
don't want to have a scalding water unpleasant time with her.
(31:31):
Petty Patty. That's what her ex husband claimed. Now it's
his word against hers, but that she took a boiling
pot of potatoes and the hot water from then dumped
it on his head. Scalding water burned him. Says she's
a mad woman. It mnds be a lot of the
Kathy Bates character from misery. A lot of people are
(31:54):
making those mean comparisons online right now, and they might
be more apt than we know. Ryan when it comes
to figuring out how to limit the number of children
one has from an old guy, the Texter says, my
parents told us that an aspirin can solve that. Put
a single aspirin between your knees problems. So yes, indeed,
(32:16):
Ryan Schumer should be in jail. He incited the pos
that tried to kill Justice Kavanaugh.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, it's the whole Uh you know, you go are.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Such you Kavanaugh? You're gonna reap the whirlwind. Yeah no,
see that's okay. Coming from the left, they can incite
violence all they want. They can commit violence all they want.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's a leftist that.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Killed Charlie Kirk, but they don't want to go there,
and they don't want to admit that the rhetoric's too
hot on their side, not saying that there isn't some
on our side that needs to be cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
But it's simply not happening.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
When Joe Biden claimed that white supremacists were the biggest
domestic terrorists in the country, show me the examples of that.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Where is that happening? I can show you plenty.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Of examples where leftists are committing violence time and again,
trying to assassinate Donald Try Trump did assassinate Charlie Kirk,
tried to assassinate Steve Scullies. The list goes on on
that side. Provide examples of your work on the other side.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
But I'll do it for me for now. From here go, Tigers.
Dan Kaplis is next.
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