December 2, 2025 • 36 mins
Stories continue to emerge from Colorado communities showing just how dangerous and deadly the state's roads have become. Ryan highlights his own concerns and brings producer Shannon Scott into the conversation.
Gary Hoey joins Ryan promoting the release of his new Christmas album, “Ho Ho Hoey: Christmas Time Is Here” - which celebrates the 30th anniversary of his "Ho Ho Hoey" holiday music series. Ryan plays the full song of his favorite track from the album to close out the segment as well.
Gary Hoey joins Ryan promoting the release of his new Christmas album, “Ho Ho Hoey: Christmas Time Is Here” - which celebrates the 30th anniversary of his "Ho Ho Hoey" holiday music series. Ryan plays the full song of his favorite track from the album to close out the segment as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Crash on eighty three and Russellville.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Words can hardly express.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
One vehicle rolled, one party objects.
Speaker 4 (00:07):
You're looking at a four thousand pound times this speed,
a huge weapon.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hardly expressed the devastation.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It was a horrible scene after a.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Man at the wheel of a stolen car lost control
on Highway eighty three late Monday afternoon, ending his own
life and four others.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
And unfortunately his decisions is what caused this crash. And
because of that driver, four innocent victims have lost their life.
Two others are still in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The investigation is ongoing. So we now know that around
three point thirty Monday afternoon, at the nine mile RTD
station in Aurora, a woman getting into her black Toyota
Matrix suddenly saw a man. He asked her for a ride,
she said no, and then, according to Aurora police, he
yanked her out of her car, jumped in and drove
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off Roughly an hour later. It's believed if he was
at the wheel when that southbound Toyota went off the road,
swerved back onto the pavement, rolled over, and smashed head
on into a Ford fusion. The aftermath left first responders shaken.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's one of those that, you know what, nobody wants
to be there. Nobody wants to be there. We have
to do our job. We have to find out what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Sergeant Ivan Albarado said. The driver of the fusion and
at least one of the children in the car were
buckled up, a sobering reminder that sometimes trying to be
safe isn't enough.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Were in your seatbelt doesn't guarantee that you're going to
survive everything. What we ask people to do is to
up their chances, to lower their risk.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
That from nine News. How safe or unsafe do you
feel on Colorado's roads driving around out there and especially
around the holidays, when let's face it, the incidences of
driving while intoxicated are higher that beating Thanksgiving or around Christmas.
There certainly New Years and what have you countered out
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there on Colorado's roads that has made you look twice
turn your head for me. It's several things. Many expired plates,
temporary license plates that are also expired, drivers who are
driving erratically much too fast, slow in the fast lane.
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There are incidences where the lane splitting that is happening.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Was not supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
That was supposed to be lane filtering, but we knew
that that gray area was going to be misinterpreted. It's
just like I talk about, and I know people will
disagree with me on roundabouts, can't stand them. And it's
not that the roundabout itself is the problem, but the
issue at hand when I encounter them is very few
people know how to properly use the roundabout, and that
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is you yield to the traffic in the circle.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Then you enter the circle.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
But what happens One car enters, and if you're behind
that car, the other cars behind that car, they all
keep going and they all go into the circle. That's
not how it operates, but that's what people are doing now.
Civil engineers will tell you roundabouts, you know, they reduce
the instances of head on collisions at four way stops.
That might be true, but still people don't know how
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to use them, and they're chaotic and weird, and I.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Don't like them.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Shannon, you're out there and about banding about in your van.
Have you encountered anything out.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
There that's really gotten your attention in a negative way? Driving?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You've pretty much described me to a.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
T Okay, okay, anything recently that's happened.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
No, nothing, too horrifying. However, if I'm already doing ten
miles over the speed limit and you're on my butt
or you pass me like I'm standing still, that makes.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Me very nervous. For me.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Several instances of this on I twenty five in particular.
No surprise here, but the crotch rockets, not talking about
the Harley's, not the hogs. You guys are buying lars,
very responsible, and it's beginning to the point of the
year with the weather and it's harder to ride those anymore.
And hopefully for the crowd rockets too. I'm talking about
the speedy ones there. There's zappin by at least one
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hundred miles an hour, at least one hundred and they're
going in between lanes of traffic. It's like Fast and
the Furious, not the arc Holder version, by the way,
the former attorney general for Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
But there are times you got to keep your hat
on a swivel out there.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
We were just talking about this on the Dan Kaplis
show yesterday as well, And of course he represents righteous
cases on a percentage fee basis, but also families involved
in high speed horrific crashes. Perhaps like the one you
just heard about there from nine News on Colorado Highway
eighty three near Franktown. This involved not only a stolen vehicle,
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a carjacking incident at an RTD stop in Aurora. Pretty sure,
I've been to that RTD stop in Aurora. That's the
one where you transfer off of like the what is
it the E line and get onto the A line
for the airport.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I've done that.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Those can be very shady areas, and it certainly was
on Monday when this accident took place.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
But this is not the only incident. Wait till you
hear this one.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
This is from bodycam footage of an officer.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Going to say was a permanent Why are you're driving
like that?
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Who was I driving away? One hundred miles an hour? Hundred? Yeah?
I love you eighty one, I love you eighty one?
After use them when you break? Do you have a
kid with you?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
What's gonna happen when you crist war one hundred miles
an hour?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
He's gonna get killed?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Your son?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Do you want your son to get killed because you're
driving recklessly?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
No, sir, Well listen to the details on this one
because they're even worse than what you just heard from
that officer doing his job. This from katiev R Fox
thirty one. Here locally, a driver in Commerce City is
facing a child abuse charge.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's the one that you heard right there after.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Allegedly driving one hundred miles an hour down a highway
get this with a toddler unsecured in his back seat.
Mishos said, how are these people parents? How do you
have a young one?
Speaker 6 (06:04):
One?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You're going one hundred miles an hour? Okay, that's one thing.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Two toddler not in a child's safety seat. That should
be rule number one. Heading out. Where's the child's mother
in this? I hope she's livid, and I hope that
this man faces consequences with his family as well as
with the law. This is reckless endangerment of a child,
one could argue. Continuing now with the article here online
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by Jacob Factor from Fox thirty one, a Commerce City
police officer pulled the driver over on Monday after seeing
him driving one hundred mph on Colorado two through the city.
Speaker 8 (06:38):
Look.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
The police department said this in a Facebook post. The
driver also had a two year old boy in the
back seat, not strapped into his car seat.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
What are you doing, bro, And that's what the officer asked.
Why are you driving like that?
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You have a kid with you. What's going to happen
when you crash? Go one hundred miles and now he's
going to get killed.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
The police department called the driver's terrifyingly egregious and said
he was arrested and faces a child abuse charge for
the incident. Police also said his vehicle was towed good.
The driver also faces a charge of reckless driving speeding
forty or more over the limit. He tried to pull
that trick where he slammed on the brakes after the
cop already popped him. It's over. It's over at that point.
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And here's the quote from police. If you aren't prioritizing
your child's well being, you better believe that we are.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Kudos to the cops on that one. Texts coming in
from John you can send years along as well at
five seven seven thirty nine Ryan. Roundabouts are traffic calming
devices and they minimize the pollution put out by cars.
That's what I'm told every time I build one. You
build them they could kind of look nice. You can
put foliage or plant life in the middle of the roundabout.
(07:51):
It certainly does slow people theoretically going into the roundabout.
But I'll maintain my position here, and I think Shannon
just said that he shared it. Those people don't know
what the hell they're doing in a roundabout, when to enter,
when to not, when to yield, when to continue. So
unless there's a better community education on this, I see
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them maybe not being a net negative.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I understand four way stops.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I've seen them, you know, high speed roads, especially in
rural areas. They're trying to curb the incidences of you know,
pulling into oncoming traffic, broadside head on collisions.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I get it. I get all of them.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Also, on the law enforcement front, we're trying to track
down George Brockler DA. In the twenty third there was
a big case and was solved a cold case. This
just announced today Sheriff Darren Weekley and Douglas County. Pretty
remarkable And I got a lot of questions for cheap
Rock if he's able to join us coming up later
in the program here and this entitled from nine News
(08:51):
Trace DNA from paperbag links prolific serial killer to nineteen
eighty seven Douglas County homicide Randa Fisher was thirty one
when she was found strangled and left along the side
of the road.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Her case is now solved.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Think about that, it's going back thirty eight years now
and with the advent of modern technology, both DNA evidence
as other kinds of forensic databases that we have collected
now and built into over the years, you have genealogy
websites that are contributing to the solving of crimes. This
(09:27):
is all very good and George Brackler hopefully have more
information on this historic solving of a cold case again
thirty eight years old, an unsolved homicide now solved in
the case of Rhonda Fisher in Douglas County. Back to
the text line five seven seventy three, nine, Ryan, I'll
slow and stop at a yellow turning red, only to
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witness someone gas it and run the red light. Round about?
What about round a block? Traffical change over at mineral
and Santa Fe. They are going to make traffic. I'm
going to traffic you into a new residential area in
order to turn what what that's petty, patty?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
She strikes again again, five seven, seven thirty nine.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Now the national front President Trump today getting a bit
agitated with what's going on in Minnesota. And we talked
about this a bit yesterday with regard to Tim Walls,
the governor there, trying to deflect and project and deny
and say, hey, the reason there's more crime in Minnesota
(10:31):
is we're more friendly to refugees and other what So
he's admitted to inviting the crime. And it's not just small,
as he said, digging himself a bigger hole, but that
he knows the difference between fraud and corruption, and President
Trump knows about corruption. Is fraud better than corruption. Got
to look that one up, you legal eagles out there.
(10:51):
Pretty sure it's just as bad fraud corruption, Likely they
go hand in hand. Jacob Frye, Oh, this guy, consider
that he was the lesser of two evils in the
recent mayoral elections from Minneapolis there. The other one was
a socialist Somali himself much in the form of a zoron.
Don't mess with the Zoron Mamdani. Jacob Fried giving a
(11:14):
heads up to the Somalis in Minneapolis that DHS agents
are coming to town.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
They're going to check who's been naughty and nice.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
We are here to respond to a number of the
credible reports from several media outlets relaying that there are
as many as one hundred federal agents that will be
deployed to the Twin Cities with a specific focus on
targeting our Somali community. To our Somali community, we love
(11:43):
you and we stand with you. That commitment is rock solid.
Minneapolis is proud to be home to the largest Somali
community in the entire country. They've been here for decades,
in many instances, entrepreneurs and fathers. They benefit both the
culture and the economic resilience of our city. Targeting Somali
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people means that due process will be violated, mistakes will
be made.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You don't know that.
Speaker 9 (12:16):
And let's be clear, it means that American citizens will
be detained for no other reason than the fact that
they look like they are Somali.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Blatant race baiting there from Jacob Fry, There's no way
that's true. If you're an American citizen and you are
of Somali origin, and you are contributing to our communities,
as Jacob Fry claims there, then we want you here.
But unfortunately, as we found out with this fraud case,
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ripping off the taxpayers of Minnesota, is something that a
very large percentage of this particular community, that's just how
it happened to break down, have been involved with and
guilty of. Now Tim Wallas again tried to kind of
spread wealth, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It's oh, there's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Fraud going on, ripping off here, not just Somali's Uh,
that's not better, dude. But as you might imagine, Donald
Trump had a hot take in response to this.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot takes,
charting the forty seven president's epic interactions with the fake
news media.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
But what I watched one is happening in Minnesota, in
the Land of a Thousand Lakes or however many leaks
they haven't. They got a lot of legs, but this
beautiful place, and I see these people ripping it off.
And now I'm on the standing and you're gonna look
it to that's good.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
I hear they ripped off SOMIGHTI ripped off that stay
or billions of dollars, billions every year, billions of dollars.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
And they contribute nothing. The welfare is like eighty eight percent.
They contribute nothing. I don't want them in our country.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
I'll be honest with you, kid.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Somebody say, oh, that's not politically correct.
Speaker 11 (14:23):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I don't want them in our country. Their country is
no good for a reason.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Their country stinks, and we don't want them in our country.
I could say that about other countries too.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I can say it about other countries too.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
We don't want them to help.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
We got to we have to rebuild our country. You know,
our countries at a tipping point.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
We could go bad. We're at a tipping point. I
don't know if people.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
Mind me saying that, but I'm saying that we could
go one way or the other, and wasn't it go
the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into
our country.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Eli Omar is garbage. She's garbage. Friends of garbage. These
are people that work.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
These are people that say, let's go, come on, let's
make this place great. These are people that do nothing
but complain. They complain, and from where they came from,
they got nothing. You know, they came from paradise, and
they said, isn't paradise. But when they come from hell
and they complain and do nothing, but bitch, we don't
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want them in our contract. Let them go back to
where they came from and fix it.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Than one of his more flaming hot takes. There were
several shades President Trump. It's the Land of ten Thousand Lakes,
by the way, Minnesota landa Lakes, Margarine, the one that
Shannon has posted up there in the control room. They
took the Native American woman off the logo. That's a
shame right there. But President Trump is right. It might
(15:56):
not be politically correct, but if there are specific types
of immigrants that are coming in here with a handout,
not looking for a hand up, not wanting to can
attribute to our society and our economy, then why would
we want them here? Hard working immigrants who want to
make a life for themselves, to live the American dream,
to make this a better place, to contribute to our culture.
(16:20):
Those are the types of immigrants that I would love
to have here. But that's not what we're talking about here.
Did you hear the percentage that are on welfare in Minnesota?
Is that what you really want for your state? For Colorado,
for anybody else that lives anywhere else. Is Minnesota proud
of that? I wouldn't be your thoughts reaction five seven,
seven thirty nine interesting text here, Ryan, if they can
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solve this forty year old case in Douglas County with
DNA evidence, What the heck is Boulder doing with the
DNA evidence from John Benay that's Jared from the log
Cabins deliver mail to the old Ramsey mansion on Fifteenth
Street for over a decade. There's a lot about the
John Bennight case that doesn't add up. I covered that
case at length on the other end of it because
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her father lived in northern Lower Michigan in the late nineties,
had a residence there, and we were covering it hither
and yon backwards in front. That was like nineteen ninety seven, Shanna,
You remember those.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Days, right.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
He ended up being good friends with my family.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Really.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
My aunt and uncle lived in Charlevoi, and the Ramseys
would be over for dinner frequently.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
John and Patsy passed who has since passed away.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Do you have a take on that case, Shannon, either
from what you observed then or what we think we
know now.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I believe, to quote my aunt, she once said, seems
kind of hanky.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Okay, fair enough, seems kind of hinky.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
We'll go with that, you know, and then I'll incorporate that,
Jared into my question for George Brockler, should he be
able to join us, We certainly hope that he is.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You know, how are we seeing this progum in so many.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Cases and yet one I can't think of one in
the late nineties that was higher profile than John Bene Ramsey.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You remember that chan it was you know, court TV.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Everybody was covering it nationwide here in Colorado, and like
I said, back in Northern lawera Michigan, Ri John and
Patsy lived at least at that time for at four
a time. So I'm surprised, you know, Nancy Grace being
on the case, you think she would anoint some people
into finding out the truth, right. Are you a fan
of Nancy Grace Shan Heck, yeah, hier Brand.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh, she's definitely that. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I mean, I've been watching a lot of these documentaries
true crime, you know, and they seem to get solved, yeah,
on the show relatively quickly, forensic files and so forth.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But again, it just doesn't add up.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
It doesn't make sense that the one one of the
highest profile cases, one of the strangest outcomes in the
tragic death of a little girl, John Bene Ramsey, we
just don't seem to know a whole lot more now
than we did all those years ago. And Jared to
your point, I mean, that's nearly thirty years ago, that
one unbelievable. Gary ho Ho Hoey is stopping by to
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promote his new Christmas album and celebrate the thirtieth anniversary
of his original Next on Ryan Shuling Live.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
He's back. That's how you know.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
It's the holidays, and his name even fits the occasion.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Gary Hoy Ho Hope Hoey.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Christmas Time is Here, a new Christmas album which you
can find on your favorite platform, mind being Spotify, and
he's also celebrating the thirtieth anniversary of his original Ho
Ho Hoey Holiday music series.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
He joins us now on Ryan Shuling Live.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Gary Hoey, Gary, thank you for your time as always,
Oh my pleasure.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Thanks for having me on the show. Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
I love the music because for anybody that enjoys the
holiday classics, you put a definitive hard rock spin on them.
So take us through what went into this newest version.
Christmas Time is Here.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Yeah, you know it's crazy to think thirty years ago
I started to do rock and roll Christmas. And you know,
back in ninety five, it was my mom who said, Gary,
you got to make a nice Christmas record, And you know,
I said, Mom, there's enough nice Christmas record. What if
I make a rock and roll Christmas record, you know?
And I wanted to take out the words and just
make the guitar do the talking. I thought that could
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be really cool, because sometimes Christmas music can be depressing.
So I'm like, I want to try that. So I
got pulled up my guitar and I started going, I'm like, okay,
that could work. And I'm like, okay, but I got
to put a crunchy you know. I could have a
crunchy riff like on the On the News single. So
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I was trying to combine like the good and the evil,
you know what I mean, the beautiful melodies. But I
grew up listening to like Black Sabbath and Deep Purple
and all that stuff, so I tried to put that
in there. And I didn't realize I was creating something
that hasn't been done. Because I did a full album
of instrumental rock Christmas music. We sent it out to
our radio friends like you, and we thought, okay, they'll
umpers in and out of commercials. We didn't take anything
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of it, and then all of a sudden it hit
the airwaves and people were like, we need this. So
I have been recording the music and now thirty years later,
I thought it'd be a great thing on the anniversary
to have a new album. So I found a few
songs I hadn't recorded yet, like you just played up
on It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. And
then I found a few others and just fun ones.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I get on.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
The up on the rooftop, you know, fun Ones, and
my son Ian, he's a twenty four year old guitarist.
He's playing in my band now. Oh and he's like, yeah,
I want to do like a Jeff Beck version of
Christmas Time is Here, which is the title of the album.
So he comes in the studio and he start going,
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oh my wow, this is going to be great. So
to have my son on that song is just like
a dream for me, a dream come true. So we
put a lot of work into this new record. It
was kind of a thank you, you know, to all
the fans for all the years of.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Supporting me, Gary Howie joining us and crunching it out
with his own guitar, and as he mentioned, his son's
in the band now.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
And what you just heard, Christmas Time is here.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
That was originally from the Charlie Brown Christmas Special, right, Gary,
it was.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
It was a Charlie Brown Christmas and I always thought
that was a great song. Yeah, and my son knew it.
He's like, yeah, I'm gonna do like a Jeff Back style.
I just thought was really amazing. I always loved the
Charlie Brown Christmas, you know, I did the old you know.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Your Minus and Lucy and all those.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Christmas songs were great growing up. And I grew up
near Boston, so my mom was always playing Christmas music.
The snow was coming down, and it was just, you know,
inevitable that I would be a Christmas guy because I
grew up with that music. And I'm really happy to be,
you know, a part of people's tradition.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Gary, if I recall correctly, like me, you've lost your
mother since then. Uh, But what was her response to
this when you originally came out with it, When she
asked you kind of maybe as a personal favor, maybe
a Christmas present to her to do this.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
How did she receive it.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
He loved it. I mean at first he was like,
what do you mean You're going to rock out Christmas?
I said, Mom, why do you hear it? This is
going to be really special. And when I played her
the songs, she loved it. She said, she said, Gary,
he said, I think you reinvented Christmas. She literally said
that to me. She says, I think you reinvented it.
So I've never heard anything like this, And I said, well, Mom,
you know, I said, every great idea happens when you
just think it's a cool idea.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
I never was trying to get rich on it. I
never thought all this, I'm gonna make money on Christmas.
I thought it was just thought we needed it, you know,
I'm like, we need some good old Christmas. And that
was many spraces. So my mom loved it right to
the end. When she passed a few years ago, and
she used to come to all the shows and get
dressed up, and she loved him.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Gary Hoey our guest and a tribute to his mom.
And then this newest version of installment, adding even more
tracks to the entire canon. Ho Ho Ho, Christmas Time
is here? You heard that you heard his licks on
some of these other ones. We're going to finish with
the whole version of what my favorite is. He has
not touched on it yet. We'll see if he does.
But just real briefly here Gary, about those who we
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have lost. You mentioned your admiration for Black Sabbath, and
in fact you had a personal interaction and an audition
for Ozzy Osbourne, who we lost just over this past year.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
That's going back to nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Can you take us back to that point in your
life and your career what that was like, manifesting that dream,
meeting up with Ozzy Osbourne and auditioning for him.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
Yeah, it was incredible because I grew up you were
such a fan. And when I heard, you know, he
was looking for a guitar player. It was literally on
a radio station. I was home and he.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Was on the air.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I heard his voice.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
And he's.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Bill and I was like, that's Aussie. So I grabbed
my guitar.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I called the.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Radio station and I just started going. I started playing
ousey rips over the phone while the guy was talking
to me. I'm like, you know, and he's like I
on the phone, that sounds pretty good. He wants an
audition for Azzie. So they sent me an address and
(25:35):
I mailed a cassette out and I got a call.
I flew to Los Angeles and it was a dream
come true. They picked me up in a limousine. They
bring me to this warehouse and there's like fifty guitars
lined up. They all have black leather jackets and long hair.
We looked like they're all the same. We all looked like,
you know, battle call. I'm like, oh my goodness. And
I got to play with Ozzie, which was incredible. He
was so gracious, and they called me back for a
(25:57):
second day. We played Crazy Train, we played I Don't Know,
and I had to do a solo just by myself.
He sat on the couch, He's like, okay, now play
for five minutes by yourself. I'm like okay. And it
was incredible. I have to say I owe my career
to Ozzie.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I really do, because.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
I started out, you know, admiring his music. I met him,
I auditioned and he said to me, you know, if
you don't get the gig, just go home and pack
up gear come to La Movie. So he told me
to move to La and I did, and I saved
up seventeen thousand dollars. I drove three thousand miles with
a U Haul on the back, and I signed a
Warner Brothers Records like a few years later. So really,
(26:33):
I think I owe it to him.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
The legendary Ozzie Osborne passing away this past July, joining
us now one of his proteges, Gary Hoey, and his
latest Christmas installment and includes ten tracks. Where would you
advise that people find it? Gary, I just want to
make sure that we point him in the right direction.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah, they can go to my website, Garyhoey dot com
and there on the website we have autographed copies as well,
and then they can also go to any streaming Spotify.
Music is on all the streaming as.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Well, Garyhoy dot com, so you can keep that in mind.
That's Hoey dot com. So, Gary, you go back thirty
years with your original project in nineteen ninety five, we
have this latest installment that we're talking about. You've had
some additions in between, some compilations as well. What goes
into which songs you pick? I mean, on this one
you had to narrow it down to ten. But I
imagine that there has to be something that stands out,
(27:23):
like the story you told about your son wanting to
play the Charlie Brown hit that we talked about with
Christmas time is here.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Yeah, you know, I always try to find if I
if I can take the song and I can take
the melody and maybe you'll bring it to a different
place and add something special like That's kind of what
it is.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Like.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
I can, I can always play the melody, but to me,
I have to be able to take it to a
different place and add what I call the qunchy Christmas
to it, you know, like doing Angel's report on high
I can play the melody, but then I have to
go back.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Amazing stuff from Gary Holley.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Now, I wanted to ask you about a show that
I just saw, Gary, because I'm watching it and I'm
thinking of you. It's a little less crunchy, I guess
the word that you're kind of referring here to. But
you might know where I'm going with this, and that's
Trans Siberian Orchestra and the production that they come up with,
and it's a whole stage show and it's it's quite
something to behold. Is there any other kind of influence
(28:31):
that you incorporate into your music that comes from that
kind of stage craft, that production value of it.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Yeah, you know, I love TSO. Good friends with those guys.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
The difference is like I mean, TSO has the layser
of light in the huge production, and we're more just like,
you know, a down home rock and roll band just
rocking out some Christmas and adding you know, we do
add a theatrical approach.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You know, we.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Decorate the whole stage with fun of anna hats and
you know, family. We have three generations of people coming
out to the shows now. So it's interesting because I
love I love the big production, but I also like
to have it keeping it kind of organic, you know
what I mean, and keep it more down home. And
and you know the other thing is too we do
the show. I always tell stories, you know, I'll talk
(29:15):
during the show. I'll tell stories about you know, our
first Christmas gift that we ever got when we were
you know, not the first gift, but we were kids
and we were trying to go to sleep, and mom
was like, you better go to sleep, but Santa Claus
is not going to come, you know, and we wanted
like that Tonker truck or my sisters wanted easy bake
oven and you know, light bright and and I remember
my first thing, ray bike with the banana sea, you know,
and putting like the baseball cards and the spokes and stuff.
(29:37):
So we you know, we talk about that on the show.
We talk about stories of just you know, growing up
and loving Christmas and the gifts we used to get
and how much it meant to us. And I think that,
you know, that's the spirit of Christmas is just you know,
taking it back when we were kids and that, you know,
because when you get older, Christmas becomes more for the
young kids, you know. So it's about that that that
mystery and stuff. So we we try to bring that
(29:58):
to people and when they come to the show, I
can see it in people's faces. Like time just standstills
for a couple hours. We're all caught up in that
music and we're not worrying about anything else.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
He's really busy. He's on the road right now. The
closest they come to Colorado is in Arizona. Both Prescott
and Phoenix might want to talk him into coming to
Denver or Colorado Springs for a future showing here, but
you can get all the music on his website, Gary
Hooey dot com. That's h o e Y dot com,
celebrating the thirtieth anniversary of his Ho Ho Holy Holiday
Music series with his newest installment, ho Ho Holy Christmas
(30:29):
Time is here, Gary, always great catching up. It makes
me think of the holidays. Thanks for making it on
even merrier Christmas than that otherwise would have been.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Oh, I appreciate it, Thank you so much. And I
always love have me on the show. I appreciate it
so much.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And we're gonna get to my favorite.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
He didn't go there, but we're going to go there
right now, playing you Out to Break with my favorite
track from these selections, Oh Holy Night his version Gary.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
Hoey nat.
Speaker 11 (32:34):
In School School.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Okay, Elice Cooper, I guess that's close to Ozzie Osbourne.
What a story that was from Gary Howie getting.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
To meet his hero.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
How many people get to meet their heroes? Have you
ever met your hero?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Shannon? Who is your hero? And have you met this person? No?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I have not.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
You've not met who is your hero?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Though?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, I'm having a hard time prap with that.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Sorry you do.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Come on, They say don't meet your heroes, but I
don't know about that. One of my heroes is George Blaha.
He is a play by play announcer for the Detroit
Pistons for many years and for Michigan State football. He's
always a great mentor to me. He would always come
on my radio shows in Michigan. Had a blast talking
to him, great meeting him. Saw him once at a
grocery store in Gaylard, Michigan. Very approachable, so I was
(35:24):
very pleased with that. But for Gary to meet Ozzy Osbourne,
that's on another level altogether.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And you get to.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Try out to be the guitars for Black Sabbath. I mean,
that's the stuff of movies. That's like almost famous. I
mean he was almost famous because he almost got that job,
didn't quite get it, but tremendous guitarists. We're so glad
that Gary was able to join us here. And this
from ESK. I love the oh, Holy night, thank you.
I even remember all the words. You keep up the
great work on your show. Thank you, thank you, ESK.
(35:52):
I appreciate you checking in with that and just like
to change it up a little bit, especially during this
holiday season. Really enjoyed that rendition and hope you do too.
There are ten tracks on the new album. I advise
you checking out.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Spotify or your favorite platform.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Ho ho, Holy Christmas time is here a lot of
response to our Victor Marx topic yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
We'll get to those texts when we come back. Hour
two Straight Ahead
Crash on eighty three and Russellville.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Words can hardly express.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
One vehicle rolled, one party objects.
Speaker 4 (00:07):
You're looking at a four thousand pound times this speed,
a huge weapon.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hardly expressed the devastation.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It was a horrible scene after a.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Man at the wheel of a stolen car lost control
on Highway eighty three late Monday afternoon, ending his own
life and four others.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
And unfortunately his decisions is what caused this crash. And
because of that driver, four innocent victims have lost their life.
Two others are still in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The investigation is ongoing. So we now know that around
three point thirty Monday afternoon, at the nine mile RTD
station in Aurora, a woman getting into her black Toyota
Matrix suddenly saw a man. He asked her for a ride,
she said no, and then, according to Aurora police, he
yanked her out of her car, jumped in and drove
(00:55):
off Roughly an hour later. It's believed if he was
at the wheel when that southbound Toyota went off the road,
swerved back onto the pavement, rolled over, and smashed head
on into a Ford fusion. The aftermath left first responders shaken.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's one of those that, you know what, nobody wants
to be there. Nobody wants to be there. We have
to do our job. We have to find out what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Sergeant Ivan Albarado said. The driver of the fusion and
at least one of the children in the car were
buckled up, a sobering reminder that sometimes trying to be
safe isn't enough.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Were in your seatbelt doesn't guarantee that you're going to
survive everything. What we ask people to do is to
up their chances, to lower their risk.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
That from nine News. How safe or unsafe do you
feel on Colorado's roads driving around out there and especially
around the holidays, when let's face it, the incidences of
driving while intoxicated are higher that beating Thanksgiving or around Christmas.
There certainly New Years and what have you countered out
(02:00):
there on Colorado's roads that has made you look twice
turn your head for me. It's several things. Many expired plates,
temporary license plates that are also expired, drivers who are
driving erratically much too fast, slow in the fast lane.
(02:20):
There are incidences where the lane splitting that is happening.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Was not supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
That was supposed to be lane filtering, but we knew
that that gray area was going to be misinterpreted. It's
just like I talk about, and I know people will
disagree with me on roundabouts, can't stand them. And it's
not that the roundabout itself is the problem, but the
issue at hand when I encounter them is very few
people know how to properly use the roundabout, and that
(02:50):
is you yield to the traffic in the circle.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Then you enter the circle.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
But what happens One car enters, and if you're behind
that car, the other cars behind that car, they all
keep going and they all go into the circle. That's
not how it operates, but that's what people are doing now.
Civil engineers will tell you roundabouts, you know, they reduce
the instances of head on collisions at four way stops.
That might be true, but still people don't know how
(03:16):
to use them, and they're chaotic and weird, and I.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Don't like them.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Shannon, you're out there and about banding about in your van.
Have you encountered anything out.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
There that's really gotten your attention in a negative way? Driving?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You've pretty much described me to a.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
T Okay, okay, anything recently that's happened.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
No, nothing, too horrifying. However, if I'm already doing ten
miles over the speed limit and you're on my butt
or you pass me like I'm standing still, that makes.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Me very nervous. For me.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Several instances of this on I twenty five in particular.
No surprise here, but the crotch rockets, not talking about
the Harley's, not the hogs. You guys are buying lars,
very responsible, and it's beginning to the point of the
year with the weather and it's harder to ride those anymore.
And hopefully for the crowd rockets too. I'm talking about
the speedy ones there. There's zappin by at least one
(04:12):
hundred miles an hour, at least one hundred and they're
going in between lanes of traffic. It's like Fast and
the Furious, not the arc Holder version, by the way,
the former attorney general for Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
But there are times you got to keep your hat
on a swivel out there.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
We were just talking about this on the Dan Kaplis
show yesterday as well, And of course he represents righteous
cases on a percentage fee basis, but also families involved
in high speed horrific crashes. Perhaps like the one you
just heard about there from nine News on Colorado Highway
eighty three near Franktown. This involved not only a stolen vehicle,
(04:47):
a carjacking incident at an RTD stop in Aurora. Pretty sure,
I've been to that RTD stop in Aurora. That's the
one where you transfer off of like the what is
it the E line and get onto the A line
for the airport.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I've done that.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Those can be very shady areas, and it certainly was
on Monday when this accident took place.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
But this is not the only incident. Wait till you
hear this one.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
This is from bodycam footage of an officer.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Going to say was a permanent Why are you're driving
like that?
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Who was I driving away? One hundred miles an hour? Hundred? Yeah?
I love you eighty one, I love you eighty one?
After use them when you break? Do you have a
kid with you?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
What's gonna happen when you crist war one hundred miles
an hour?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
He's gonna get killed?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Your son?
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Do you want your son to get killed because you're
driving recklessly?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
No, sir, Well listen to the details on this one
because they're even worse than what you just heard from
that officer doing his job. This from katiev R Fox
thirty one. Here locally, a driver in Commerce City is
facing a child abuse charge.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's the one that you heard right there after.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Allegedly driving one hundred miles an hour down a highway
get this with a toddler unsecured in his back seat.
Mishos said, how are these people parents? How do you
have a young one?
Speaker 6 (06:04):
One?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
You're going one hundred miles an hour? Okay, that's one thing.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Two toddler not in a child's safety seat. That should
be rule number one. Heading out. Where's the child's mother
in this? I hope she's livid, and I hope that
this man faces consequences with his family as well as
with the law. This is reckless endangerment of a child,
one could argue. Continuing now with the article here online
(06:27):
by Jacob Factor from Fox thirty one, a Commerce City
police officer pulled the driver over on Monday after seeing
him driving one hundred mph on Colorado two through the city.
Speaker 8 (06:38):
Look.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
The police department said this in a Facebook post. The
driver also had a two year old boy in the
back seat, not strapped into his car seat.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
What are you doing, bro, And that's what the officer asked.
Why are you driving like that?
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You have a kid with you. What's going to happen
when you crash? Go one hundred miles and now he's
going to get killed.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
The police department called the driver's terrifyingly egregious and said
he was arrested and faces a child abuse charge for
the incident. Police also said his vehicle was towed good.
The driver also faces a charge of reckless driving speeding
forty or more over the limit. He tried to pull
that trick where he slammed on the brakes after the
cop already popped him. It's over. It's over at that point.
(07:21):
And here's the quote from police. If you aren't prioritizing
your child's well being, you better believe that we are.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Kudos to the cops on that one. Texts coming in
from John you can send years along as well at
five seven seven thirty nine Ryan. Roundabouts are traffic calming
devices and they minimize the pollution put out by cars.
That's what I'm told every time I build one. You
build them they could kind of look nice. You can
put foliage or plant life in the middle of the roundabout.
(07:51):
It certainly does slow people theoretically going into the roundabout.
But I'll maintain my position here, and I think Shannon
just said that he shared it. Those people don't know
what the hell they're doing in a roundabout, when to enter,
when to not, when to yield, when to continue. So
unless there's a better community education on this, I see
(08:13):
them maybe not being a net negative.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I understand four way stops.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I've seen them, you know, high speed roads, especially in
rural areas. They're trying to curb the incidences of you know,
pulling into oncoming traffic, broadside head on collisions.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I get it. I get all of them.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Also, on the law enforcement front, we're trying to track
down George Brockler DA. In the twenty third there was
a big case and was solved a cold case. This
just announced today Sheriff Darren Weekley and Douglas County. Pretty
remarkable And I got a lot of questions for cheap
Rock if he's able to join us coming up later
in the program here and this entitled from nine News
(08:51):
Trace DNA from paperbag links prolific serial killer to nineteen
eighty seven Douglas County homicide Randa Fisher was thirty one
when she was found strangled and left along the side
of the road.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Her case is now solved.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Think about that, it's going back thirty eight years now
and with the advent of modern technology, both DNA evidence
as other kinds of forensic databases that we have collected
now and built into over the years, you have genealogy
websites that are contributing to the solving of crimes. This
(09:27):
is all very good and George Brackler hopefully have more
information on this historic solving of a cold case again
thirty eight years old, an unsolved homicide now solved in
the case of Rhonda Fisher in Douglas County. Back to
the text line five seven seventy three, nine, Ryan, I'll
slow and stop at a yellow turning red, only to
(09:48):
witness someone gas it and run the red light. Round about?
What about round a block? Traffical change over at mineral
and Santa Fe. They are going to make traffic. I'm
going to traffic you into a new residential area in
order to turn what what that's petty, patty?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
She strikes again again, five seven, seven thirty nine.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Now the national front President Trump today getting a bit
agitated with what's going on in Minnesota. And we talked
about this a bit yesterday with regard to Tim Walls,
the governor there, trying to deflect and project and deny
and say, hey, the reason there's more crime in Minnesota
(10:31):
is we're more friendly to refugees and other what So
he's admitted to inviting the crime. And it's not just small,
as he said, digging himself a bigger hole, but that
he knows the difference between fraud and corruption, and President
Trump knows about corruption. Is fraud better than corruption. Got
to look that one up, you legal eagles out there.
(10:51):
Pretty sure it's just as bad fraud corruption, Likely they
go hand in hand. Jacob Frye, Oh, this guy, consider
that he was the lesser of two evils in the
recent mayoral elections from Minneapolis there. The other one was
a socialist Somali himself much in the form of a zoron.
Don't mess with the Zoron Mamdani. Jacob Fried giving a
(11:14):
heads up to the Somalis in Minneapolis that DHS agents
are coming to town.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
They're going to check who's been naughty and nice.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
We are here to respond to a number of the
credible reports from several media outlets relaying that there are
as many as one hundred federal agents that will be
deployed to the Twin Cities with a specific focus on
targeting our Somali community. To our Somali community, we love
(11:43):
you and we stand with you. That commitment is rock solid.
Minneapolis is proud to be home to the largest Somali
community in the entire country. They've been here for decades,
in many instances, entrepreneurs and fathers. They benefit both the
culture and the economic resilience of our city. Targeting Somali
(12:10):
people means that due process will be violated, mistakes will
be made.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You don't know that.
Speaker 9 (12:16):
And let's be clear, it means that American citizens will
be detained for no other reason than the fact that
they look like they are Somali.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Blatant race baiting there from Jacob Fry, There's no way
that's true. If you're an American citizen and you are
of Somali origin, and you are contributing to our communities,
as Jacob Fry claims there, then we want you here.
But unfortunately, as we found out with this fraud case,
(12:44):
ripping off the taxpayers of Minnesota, is something that a
very large percentage of this particular community, that's just how
it happened to break down, have been involved with and
guilty of. Now Tim Wallas again tried to kind of
spread wealth, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It's oh, there's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Fraud going on, ripping off here, not just Somali's Uh,
that's not better, dude. But as you might imagine, Donald
Trump had a hot take in response to this.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot takes,
charting the forty seven president's epic interactions with the fake
news media.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
But what I watched one is happening in Minnesota, in
the Land of a Thousand Lakes or however many leaks
they haven't. They got a lot of legs, but this
beautiful place, and I see these people ripping it off.
And now I'm on the standing and you're gonna look
it to that's good.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
I hear they ripped off SOMIGHTI ripped off that stay
or billions of dollars, billions every year, billions of dollars.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
And they contribute nothing. The welfare is like eighty eight percent.
They contribute nothing. I don't want them in our country.
Speaker 10 (14:19):
I'll be honest with you, kid.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Somebody say, oh, that's not politically correct.
Speaker 11 (14:23):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I don't want them in our country. Their country is
no good for a reason.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Their country stinks, and we don't want them in our country.
I could say that about other countries too.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I can say it about other countries too.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
We don't want them to help.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
We got to we have to rebuild our country. You know,
our countries at a tipping point.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
We could go bad. We're at a tipping point. I
don't know if people.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
Mind me saying that, but I'm saying that we could
go one way or the other, and wasn't it go
the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into
our country.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Eli Omar is garbage. She's garbage. Friends of garbage. These
are people that work.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
These are people that say, let's go, come on, let's
make this place great. These are people that do nothing
but complain. They complain, and from where they came from,
they got nothing. You know, they came from paradise, and
they said, isn't paradise. But when they come from hell
and they complain and do nothing, but bitch, we don't
(15:26):
want them in our contract. Let them go back to
where they came from and fix it.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Than one of his more flaming hot takes. There were
several shades President Trump. It's the Land of ten Thousand Lakes,
by the way, Minnesota landa Lakes, Margarine, the one that
Shannon has posted up there in the control room. They
took the Native American woman off the logo. That's a
shame right there. But President Trump is right. It might
(15:56):
not be politically correct, but if there are specific types
of immigrants that are coming in here with a handout,
not looking for a hand up, not wanting to can
attribute to our society and our economy, then why would
we want them here? Hard working immigrants who want to
make a life for themselves, to live the American dream,
to make this a better place, to contribute to our culture.
(16:20):
Those are the types of immigrants that I would love
to have here. But that's not what we're talking about here.
Did you hear the percentage that are on welfare in Minnesota?
Is that what you really want for your state? For Colorado,
for anybody else that lives anywhere else. Is Minnesota proud
of that? I wouldn't be your thoughts reaction five seven,
seven thirty nine interesting text here, Ryan, if they can
(16:45):
solve this forty year old case in Douglas County with
DNA evidence, What the heck is Boulder doing with the
DNA evidence from John Benay that's Jared from the log
Cabins deliver mail to the old Ramsey mansion on Fifteenth
Street for over a decade. There's a lot about the
John Bennight case that doesn't add up. I covered that
case at length on the other end of it because
(17:08):
her father lived in northern Lower Michigan in the late nineties,
had a residence there, and we were covering it hither
and yon backwards in front. That was like nineteen ninety seven, Shanna,
You remember those.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Days, right.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
He ended up being good friends with my family.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Really.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
My aunt and uncle lived in Charlevoi, and the Ramseys
would be over for dinner frequently.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
John and Patsy passed who has since passed away.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Do you have a take on that case, Shannon, either
from what you observed then or what we think we
know now.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I believe, to quote my aunt, she once said, seems
kind of hanky.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Okay, fair enough, seems kind of hinky.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
We'll go with that, you know, and then I'll incorporate that,
Jared into my question for George Brockler, should he be
able to join us, We certainly hope that he is.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
You know, how are we seeing this progum in so many.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Cases and yet one I can't think of one in
the late nineties that was higher profile than John Bene Ramsey.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You remember that chan it was you know, court TV.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Everybody was covering it nationwide here in Colorado, and like
I said, back in Northern lawera Michigan, Ri John and
Patsy lived at least at that time for at four
a time. So I'm surprised, you know, Nancy Grace being
on the case, you think she would anoint some people
into finding out the truth, right. Are you a fan
of Nancy Grace Shan Heck, yeah, hier Brand.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh, she's definitely that. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I mean, I've been watching a lot of these documentaries
true crime, you know, and they seem to get solved, yeah,
on the show relatively quickly, forensic files and so forth.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
But again, it just doesn't add up.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
It doesn't make sense that the one one of the
highest profile cases, one of the strangest outcomes in the
tragic death of a little girl, John Bene Ramsey, we
just don't seem to know a whole lot more now
than we did all those years ago. And Jared to
your point, I mean, that's nearly thirty years ago, that
one unbelievable. Gary ho Ho Hoey is stopping by to
(19:11):
promote his new Christmas album and celebrate the thirtieth anniversary
of his original Next on Ryan Shuling Live.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
He's back. That's how you know.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
It's the holidays, and his name even fits the occasion.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Gary Hoy Ho Hope Hoey.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Christmas Time is Here, a new Christmas album which you
can find on your favorite platform, mind being Spotify, and
he's also celebrating the thirtieth anniversary of his original Ho
Ho Hoey Holiday music series.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
He joins us now on Ryan Shuling Live.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Gary Hoey, Gary, thank you for your time as always,
Oh my pleasure.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Thanks for having me on the show. Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
I love the music because for anybody that enjoys the
holiday classics, you put a definitive hard rock spin on them.
So take us through what went into this newest version.
Christmas Time is Here.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Yeah, you know it's crazy to think thirty years ago
I started to do rock and roll Christmas. And you know,
back in ninety five, it was my mom who said, Gary,
you got to make a nice Christmas record, And you know,
I said, Mom, there's enough nice Christmas record. What if
I make a rock and roll Christmas record, you know?
And I wanted to take out the words and just
make the guitar do the talking. I thought that could
(20:39):
be really cool, because sometimes Christmas music can be depressing.
So I'm like, I want to try that. So I
got pulled up my guitar and I started going, I'm like, okay,
that could work. And I'm like, okay, but I got
to put a crunchy you know. I could have a
crunchy riff like on the On the News single. So
(21:05):
I was trying to combine like the good and the evil,
you know what I mean, the beautiful melodies. But I
grew up listening to like Black Sabbath and Deep Purple
and all that stuff, so I tried to put that
in there. And I didn't realize I was creating something
that hasn't been done. Because I did a full album
of instrumental rock Christmas music. We sent it out to
our radio friends like you, and we thought, okay, they'll
umpers in and out of commercials. We didn't take anything
(21:27):
of it, and then all of a sudden it hit
the airwaves and people were like, we need this. So
I have been recording the music and now thirty years later,
I thought it'd be a great thing on the anniversary
to have a new album. So I found a few
songs I hadn't recorded yet, like you just played up
on It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. And
then I found a few others and just fun ones.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I get on.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
The up on the rooftop, you know, fun Ones, and
my son Ian, he's a twenty four year old guitarist.
He's playing in my band now. Oh and he's like, yeah,
I want to do like a Jeff Beck version of
Christmas Time is Here, which is the title of the album.
So he comes in the studio and he start going,
(22:19):
oh my wow, this is going to be great. So
to have my son on that song is just like
a dream for me, a dream come true. So we
put a lot of work into this new record. It
was kind of a thank you, you know, to all
the fans for all the years of.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Supporting me, Gary Howie joining us and crunching it out
with his own guitar, and as he mentioned, his son's
in the band now.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
And what you just heard, Christmas Time is here.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
That was originally from the Charlie Brown Christmas Special, right, Gary,
it was.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
It was a Charlie Brown Christmas and I always thought
that was a great song. Yeah, and my son knew it.
He's like, yeah, I'm gonna do like a Jeff Back style.
I just thought was really amazing. I always loved the
Charlie Brown Christmas, you know, I did the old you know.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Your Minus and Lucy and all those.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Christmas songs were great growing up. And I grew up
near Boston, so my mom was always playing Christmas music.
The snow was coming down, and it was just, you know,
inevitable that I would be a Christmas guy because I
grew up with that music. And I'm really happy to be,
you know, a part of people's tradition.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Gary, if I recall correctly, like me, you've lost your
mother since then. Uh, But what was her response to
this when you originally came out with it, When she
asked you kind of maybe as a personal favor, maybe
a Christmas present to her to do this.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
How did she receive it.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
He loved it. I mean at first he was like,
what do you mean You're going to rock out Christmas?
I said, Mom, why do you hear it? This is
going to be really special. And when I played her
the songs, she loved it. She said, she said, Gary,
he said, I think you reinvented Christmas. She literally said
that to me. She says, I think you reinvented it.
So I've never heard anything like this, And I said, well, Mom,
you know, I said, every great idea happens when you
just think it's a cool idea.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
I never was trying to get rich on it. I
never thought all this, I'm gonna make money on Christmas.
I thought it was just thought we needed it, you know,
I'm like, we need some good old Christmas. And that
was many spraces. So my mom loved it right to
the end. When she passed a few years ago, and
she used to come to all the shows and get
dressed up, and she loved him.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Gary Hoey our guest and a tribute to his mom.
And then this newest version of installment, adding even more
tracks to the entire canon. Ho Ho Ho, Christmas Time
is here? You heard that you heard his licks on
some of these other ones. We're going to finish with
the whole version of what my favorite is. He has
not touched on it yet. We'll see if he does.
But just real briefly here Gary, about those who we
(24:34):
have lost. You mentioned your admiration for Black Sabbath, and
in fact you had a personal interaction and an audition
for Ozzy Osbourne, who we lost just over this past year.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
That's going back to nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Can you take us back to that point in your
life and your career what that was like, manifesting that dream,
meeting up with Ozzy Osbourne and auditioning for him.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
Yeah, it was incredible because I grew up you were
such a fan. And when I heard, you know, he
was looking for a guitar player. It was literally on
a radio station. I was home and he.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Was on the air.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I heard his voice.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
And he's.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
Bill and I was like, that's Aussie. So I grabbed
my guitar.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I called the.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
Radio station and I just started going. I started playing
ousey rips over the phone while the guy was talking
to me. I'm like, you know, and he's like I
on the phone, that sounds pretty good. He wants an
audition for Azzie. So they sent me an address and
(25:35):
I mailed a cassette out and I got a call.
I flew to Los Angeles and it was a dream
come true. They picked me up in a limousine. They
bring me to this warehouse and there's like fifty guitars
lined up. They all have black leather jackets and long hair.
We looked like they're all the same. We all looked like,
you know, battle call. I'm like, oh my goodness. And
I got to play with Ozzie, which was incredible. He
was so gracious, and they called me back for a
(25:57):
second day. We played Crazy Train, we played I Don't Know,
and I had to do a solo just by myself.
He sat on the couch, He's like, okay, now play
for five minutes by yourself. I'm like okay. And it
was incredible. I have to say I owe my career
to Ozzie.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I really do, because.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
I started out, you know, admiring his music. I met him,
I auditioned and he said to me, you know, if
you don't get the gig, just go home and pack
up gear come to La Movie. So he told me
to move to La and I did, and I saved
up seventeen thousand dollars. I drove three thousand miles with
a U Haul on the back, and I signed a
Warner Brothers Records like a few years later. So really,
(26:33):
I think I owe it to him.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
The legendary Ozzie Osborne passing away this past July, joining
us now one of his proteges, Gary Hoey, and his
latest Christmas installment and includes ten tracks. Where would you
advise that people find it? Gary, I just want to
make sure that we point him in the right direction.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah, they can go to my website, Garyhoey dot com
and there on the website we have autographed copies as well,
and then they can also go to any streaming Spotify.
Music is on all the streaming as.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Well, Garyhoy dot com, so you can keep that in mind.
That's Hoey dot com. So, Gary, you go back thirty
years with your original project in nineteen ninety five, we
have this latest installment that we're talking about. You've had
some additions in between, some compilations as well. What goes
into which songs you pick? I mean, on this one
you had to narrow it down to ten. But I
imagine that there has to be something that stands out,
(27:23):
like the story you told about your son wanting to
play the Charlie Brown hit that we talked about with
Christmas time is here.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Yeah, you know, I always try to find if I
if I can take the song and I can take
the melody and maybe you'll bring it to a different
place and add something special like That's kind of what
it is.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Like.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
I can, I can always play the melody, but to me,
I have to be able to take it to a
different place and add what I call the qunchy Christmas
to it, you know, like doing Angel's report on high
I can play the melody, but then I have to
go back.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Amazing stuff from Gary Holley.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Now, I wanted to ask you about a show that
I just saw, Gary, because I'm watching it and I'm
thinking of you. It's a little less crunchy, I guess
the word that you're kind of referring here to. But
you might know where I'm going with this, and that's
Trans Siberian Orchestra and the production that they come up with,
and it's a whole stage show and it's it's quite
something to behold. Is there any other kind of influence
(28:31):
that you incorporate into your music that comes from that
kind of stage craft, that production value of it.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Yeah, you know, I love TSO. Good friends with those guys.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
The difference is like I mean, TSO has the layser
of light in the huge production, and we're more just like,
you know, a down home rock and roll band just
rocking out some Christmas and adding you know, we do
add a theatrical approach.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
You know, we.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Decorate the whole stage with fun of anna hats and
you know, family. We have three generations of people coming
out to the shows now. So it's interesting because I
love I love the big production, but I also like
to have it keeping it kind of organic, you know
what I mean, and keep it more down home. And
and you know the other thing is too we do
the show. I always tell stories, you know, I'll talk
(29:15):
during the show. I'll tell stories about you know, our
first Christmas gift that we ever got when we were
you know, not the first gift, but we were kids
and we were trying to go to sleep, and mom
was like, you better go to sleep, but Santa Claus
is not going to come, you know, and we wanted
like that Tonker truck or my sisters wanted easy bake
oven and you know, light bright and and I remember
my first thing, ray bike with the banana sea, you know,
and putting like the baseball cards and the spokes and stuff.
(29:37):
So we you know, we talk about that on the show.
We talk about stories of just you know, growing up
and loving Christmas and the gifts we used to get
and how much it meant to us. And I think that,
you know, that's the spirit of Christmas is just you know,
taking it back when we were kids and that, you know,
because when you get older, Christmas becomes more for the
young kids, you know. So it's about that that that
mystery and stuff. So we we try to bring that
(29:58):
to people and when they come to the show, I
can see it in people's faces. Like time just standstills
for a couple hours. We're all caught up in that
music and we're not worrying about anything else.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
He's really busy. He's on the road right now. The
closest they come to Colorado is in Arizona. Both Prescott
and Phoenix might want to talk him into coming to
Denver or Colorado Springs for a future showing here, but
you can get all the music on his website, Gary
Hooey dot com. That's h o e Y dot com,
celebrating the thirtieth anniversary of his Ho Ho Holy Holiday
Music series with his newest installment, ho Ho Holy Christmas
(30:29):
Time is here, Gary, always great catching up. It makes
me think of the holidays. Thanks for making it on
even merrier Christmas than that otherwise would have been.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Oh, I appreciate it, Thank you so much. And I
always love have me on the show. I appreciate it
so much.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And we're gonna get to my favorite.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
He didn't go there, but we're going to go there
right now, playing you Out to Break with my favorite
track from these selections, Oh Holy Night his version Gary.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
Hoey nat.
Speaker 11 (32:34):
In School School.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Okay, Elice Cooper, I guess that's close to Ozzie Osbourne.
What a story that was from Gary Howie getting.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
To meet his hero.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
How many people get to meet their heroes? Have you
ever met your hero?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Shannon? Who is your hero? And have you met this person? No?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I have not.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
You've not met who is your hero?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Though?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, I'm having a hard time prap with that.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Sorry you do.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Come on, They say don't meet your heroes, but I
don't know about that. One of my heroes is George Blaha.
He is a play by play announcer for the Detroit
Pistons for many years and for Michigan State football. He's
always a great mentor to me. He would always come
on my radio shows in Michigan. Had a blast talking
to him, great meeting him. Saw him once at a
grocery store in Gaylard, Michigan. Very approachable, so I was
(35:24):
very pleased with that. But for Gary to meet Ozzy Osbourne,
that's on another level altogether.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And you get to.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Try out to be the guitars for Black Sabbath. I mean,
that's the stuff of movies. That's like almost famous. I
mean he was almost famous because he almost got that job,
didn't quite get it, but tremendous guitarists. We're so glad
that Gary was able to join us here. And this
from ESK. I love the oh, Holy night, thank you.
I even remember all the words. You keep up the
great work on your show. Thank you, thank you, ESK.
(35:52):
I appreciate you checking in with that and just like
to change it up a little bit, especially during this
holiday season. Really enjoyed that rendition and hope you do too.
There are ten tracks on the new album. I advise
you checking out.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Spotify or your favorite platform.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Ho ho, Holy Christmas time is here a lot of
response to our Victor Marx topic yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
We'll get to those texts when we come back. Hour
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