December 18, 2024 • 34 mins
Dan Brunner, former FBI special agent joins Ryan to provide his career perspective on the ongoing and escalating violence in Aurora being perpetrated by criminal illegal aliens in the form of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua.
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Savanah Hernandez, Turning Point USA reporter provides her view on escalating violence in Aurora from her September on-the-ground investigation of apartment buildings being commandeered by illegal alien Venezuelan gang members of Tren de Aragua.
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Savanah Hernandez, Turning Point USA reporter provides her view on escalating violence in Aurora from her September on-the-ground investigation of apartment buildings being commandeered by illegal alien Venezuelan gang members of Tren de Aragua.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I want to breakdown an event that occurred last night,
(00:03):
and I think, without questioning as national attention based on
the circumstances of where the event actually occurred, and based
upon the incidences that have been in the city of
Aurora in the past, in and around this same location.
Last night, right at about eight forty five PM at
one two five eight Dallas Street. Of victims, it was
(00:26):
a male and a female. They were accosted by approximately
thirteen to fifteen armed individuals. Thirteen of those were males
and three of those were possibly females at this time
is what we're thinking. They were taken to an adjoining
apartment complex against their will at that same Dallas complex,
(00:49):
and they ended up at one two six ' eight
Dallas Again, this was the same complex, same area.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Todd Chamberlain, the Aurora PD chief, newly in not that
long ago, holding a press conference last night and detailing
what was happening at these apartment complexes which we have
been reporting on for months now, verified by Cindy and
Edramero themselves residents in that very location. I reached out
(01:18):
to Cindy and asked her about twelve fifty eight Dallas Street,
and I asked her, how close is that to your
former residence? And she says, quote, I think three buildings down.
These are the buildings I said were the worst. Even
the illegals in my own building told me to stay
away from them, my goodness. And Cindy had it quite rough.
(01:41):
She had bullet holes in her vehicle. She was trying
to gain favor with these Venezuelan mafioso's of Trende Aragua
by presenting them gifts like blankets and food, and in
return they kind of left her alone. In fact, they
even made fun of the cameras that she had hosted
up and were waving at them at first. I mean,
(02:03):
this is truly incredible. And this was Cindy's story and
for the large part of the summer and well before that,
with her husband ed installing those cameras. And you will
see if you watch Fox News, it'll credit Edward Romero
on a lot of the video that you see of
armed suspects intruding into other apartments and commandeering them whatever
(02:26):
verb you used there, there was some parsing of the
language by Comrade Kyle Clark and others who's finally reporting
on this. I might add last Night, Welcome to the party. Pal. Meanwhile,
Danielle Jorinski, John Fabricatory, Cindy Romero, the good reporting at
Fox thirty one here in Denver, Vicenti Arenas and others
(02:50):
doing their jobs, unlike nine News, which was carrying the
water and attempting to obfuscate on behalf of the old
regime that led Aurora peace, and quite frankly and disappointingly,
on behalf of Mayor Mike Kaufman of Aurora. I still
don't understand where Mayor Kaufman is coming from and all
of this, or what he's trying to achieve by minimizing
(03:13):
saying or diminishing this or trying to displace it. Just
listen to what happened here as well. And Chief Chamberlain,
he's very careful not to come right out and identify
it as trendy Aragua, but who else could it be
at this point. This was not happening before this influx
of illegals came to Aurora. And it's not all the illegals.
(03:34):
In fact, a lot of them are Venezuelans themselves, who
are terrified for two reasons. One, trendy Aragua is commandeering
their residences. Two, they're afraid to go to police because
they themselves maybe are illegal and undocumented, and there are
levels of offenses that in a situation like this a
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crisis that you have to and I think Chief Chamberlain
does the right thing here and assuagees the fears of
those who might come forward by saying, look, if you're
here illegally, that's a battle for another day. We've got
to get this violent element out of Aurora.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Based on the actions that I saw, based upon how
this event unfolded, this is one hundred percent gang activity.
This gang activity at Dallas. There are Venzawellans involved, So
again there is a high assumption that they may be
affiliated or affiliated with the TDA gang. But again I
am not going to say one hundred percent positively until
that is validated and verified.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And this is the message you had for those terrorized
and terrified Venezuelan illegals who are here but are not
part of Trende Ragua, who are trying to live peacefully here,
and his assurances to them.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I also want to make sure that you understand something
that we have been trying to do since the beginning
of this, and that is have outreach with that community particularly.
I want to make sure that anybody, whether documented or
on documented, knows that they can call law enforcement and
will over respond and we will serve them the best
that we possibly can. There is no place in this country,
there is no place in this city where somebody should
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be victimized or mistreated based upon their documentation status.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And one hundred percent accurate. They are trendy Aragua. The
gang members, these are nefarious types and they are targeting
fellow illegals intentionally knowing that they are less likely to
come forward to go to the police. Joining us now,
he's a former FBI special agent. He appeared on Fox
News this morning. You may have seen him, and my
thanks to John Fabricatory for making the connection. He is
(05:33):
Dan Runner and he joins us on Ryan Shuling Live. Dan,
thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Hi Ryan, thank you, thank you for having me. I
appreciate it your.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Response to everything you just heard and everything that you
know so far about this latest incident.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Listen, this is nothing that's surprising for me. I've been
I was an FBI agent for twenty years, and fifteen
of those years I was chasing Hispanic gangs. MS thirteen
to Nidadio's and at the tail end it was members
of Brinda Agua. So nothing surprises me, nothing surprises me
at all. It's you know, a spread. This has been
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going on for the last two years, the spread of
vind A Agua across this nation. And number one reason
is the amount of migrants that came across the border
during this administration, but in the Biden administration is abnormally large.
So you have a tremendous amount of migrants that came
into this country. Like you said, a majority of them
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or Venezuelans are majority of them are good people looking
for hard work. But inside those elements are the criminal organization,
the criminal elements. Nicholas Baduro and as President of Venezuela
has allowed and pushed out those and he facilitated all
of these members of Thendaragua to leave Venezuela and achieved
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two goals. One vacates the criminal element from his country
and two destabilized is the countries that they're going to.
This has been a known problem for many countries in
South America. Spanish is my first language. My parents were
immigrants to this country over fifty years ago. I know Chile,
I know Argentina and Peru and Colombia all are been
(07:15):
suffering from thrend that I were for years that is
now moving into this country. What is coming here are
thrend that I were members in from there, coming from
South America, from Chile, where all these things that they've
been doing, all the things that you're seeing here, the
building takeovers, the extortion, the murder, the weapons trafficking, they
were all doing that in Chile for years. In Chile,
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about a year and a half ago, there's a big investigation.
A lieutenant from the Venezuelan government, Venezuelan army excuse me,
escaped to Venezuela and fled to Chile. He was found
by members of Thren that I was kidnapped, tortured and
then murdered, not unlike what happened in Aurora. Just they
was stopped short of murder. Those unfortunate individuals were kidnapped,
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they were tortured inside the apartment. And the fact that
they have now nineteen individuals that have been detained and
hopefully there will be subsequent arrests, it just shows you
that this is not going to stop. This is going
to continue. The administration in Colorado from the governor all
the way down to the police chief have been complicit
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in allowing and just turning the shoulders the interim chief.
That one of the biggest issues. When mister Romero came
forward with a video, you know, bravely came forward with
the video. The interim chief she went forward and she
had a camera set out in front of these buildings
which are again in question today, and they stood there
in front of the in front of the building and said,
there's nothing here. We're fine, there's no gang activity. We've
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spoken to the people there. I'm not going to say
that there's no gang, but we have no perion Aly.
What you don't know is a they're clearly lying to you,
and b that camera was a public affairs officer filming
police officers knocking on doors. People are not going to
talk to the police in uniform in front of their doors,
but especially in that when a camera is pointed at them.
(09:08):
It's completely bogus. They don't they completely saying everything that
there is no gang problem. There is a gang problem.
It's been there for years. I knew in twenty fifteen
from FBI Newark, New Jersey, that Aurora, Colorado had a
gang problem. When I knew MS thirteam members were coming
out here, so it's nothing new. There shouldn't be a shock,
there shouldn't be a problem. And it's not just Aurora.
(09:31):
This is across the country. They're here in Montana, they're
here in Chicago, Florida, Texas, New York. They're here and
they're a problem.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Insights from former FBI Special Agent Dan Brunner joining us
here on Ryan Schuling Live. Here is Aurora PD Chief
Todd Chamberlain, and again he is new to the post.
He is trying to pick up the pieces and clean
up the mess, and it sounds at least like he
is getting off on the right foot when it comes
to at least identifying the problem. And he gets very
specific here about what happened to this man and woman
(10:02):
in an Aurora apartment complex. Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The victims were held against their will. They were actually bound,
both the male and the female. They were pistol whipped,
they were beat they were victimized, they were terrorized.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
During this entire process.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Some of the suspects left that apartment complex at one
two six to eight Dallas and went over to the
victims apartment, which was located at one two five eight
Dallas and actually burglarized and took over that apartment and
took out items of value that belonged to our victims.
(10:41):
And subsequently they came back.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And again that was Todd Chamberlain, Aurora PD chief. You
mentioned Heather Morris and her handling of this. Dan, I'm
trying to wrap my head around what is to be
gained by denying that this was happening, by trying to opt,
you skate, or minimize or to minish the claims made
by Cindy Romero and others. It wasn't just her, but
(11:04):
she's the one that came forward very importantly, as you mentioned,
with the video evidence that this was going on. And
you say the states back in Aurora to twenty fifteen,
So I guess my first question is from your experience
in the FBI, why Aurora, Why were trendy Iragua members
coming here that far back?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well, you have to look at the it's the communities,
you're the Hispanic communities. That's where these gangs and these
criminal organizations thrive. One of the things I'm trying to
be very careful about is not calling for THENDA as
a gang, because they're not a gang. MS thirteen is
a gang. They are a group of kids sometimes you know,
causing trouble. PDA is a transnational criminal organization. They're high tech,
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they work well, they communicate across nations. Why Aurora I
would suspect it's because there is a Hispanic community and
they're able to blend in and they're be able to
most importantly do what they did last night is extort
their own people. They're able to extort it for two reasons. One,
like you said, the victims are afraid to come or
into other individuals in the community, are afraid to go
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to law enforcement out of fear that they may get reported.
They don't trust law enforces. They don't trust the people
behind the badge. And number two is most importantly is
the fear that there may be retribution to other family
members back at their home country. They don't want to
have to provide information and then other TVA members that
are in the community will turn around and contact, you know,
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other resources that they have back in Gatacas in Venezuela,
and their members their family will suffer because they provide
a information. So the double they would rather get, you know,
rather pay the extortion, rather pay the blankets. It starts
little starts, small blankets, ten dollars, twenty dollars, and that's
where it begins and it gains momentum. The extortion of
these three buildings, which happened last year, is just now
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occurring in a different manner. It's it's constant, complicated, it's
it's you know, getting on top of itself. This right here,
what happened last night, for me, is a racketeering investigation.
The federal authorities FBI, Denver, SBI, HSI excuse me, HSI
Denver should get involved, and this could easily easily be
(13:14):
the beginning of a racketearing investigation. But you have problems
with Department of Justice, you have problems with the SBI,
who both say, you know, they don't look kindly upon
Hispanic investigations. That's historically the regardless of administration, that's always
been the way I have to you know, faced its
head on in Newark, which is a high Hispanic community.
(13:37):
So it's it's something that constantly is done. Hopefully you
know there, you know, this changes the tone I'm you know,
getting out and appreciate you know, news stations like yourself
putting out the good word, getting people on like myself
to talk about it, Gems Fabricatory and Daniel Durinski.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I work with them.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I talked to them constantly, and you know, trying to
get your proper attention put to these guys because this
is a dangerous game. They're two to three excuse to
be three to five thousand members across this country in
different communities, and they are themselves each one of those
thems are recruiting ten twelve, thirteen year old ten a
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dozen of them, so they're multiplying exponentially if we don't
get ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
He is Dan Brunner, former FBI special agent, very well
versed on this topic, and Dan, you kind of touched
on something there. The numbers are growing, but not just
that they are becoming more brazen with their actions. We've
seen this within the last week. In fact, there was
a shootout just openly from vehicles, et cetera. There were
other arrests made and a separate incident and then this
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one happening just over the last twenty four to forty
eight hours. I guess take us through what you anticipate
will happen. We know we're going to see a change
in administration, we're going to see change in leadership at
the top, looking like Cash Pattel for the FBI, Tom Holman,
as borders are. We know that you have worked with
John Fabricatory in the past, he was with ICE. But
(15:01):
we know also that Denver is a sanctuary city and
Colorado is a sanctuary state, and both the mayor of Denver,
Mike Johnston, and the Governor of Colorado, Jared Polis, have
voiced the stance that they are going to not help
with ICE, and in fact might obstruct ICE from coming
into the communities and cleaning this up, which I think
is so cold and heartless. Because of what we're talking about, Dan.
(15:21):
There might be a lot of Venezuelan immigrants who are
here illegally, but they are not committing other crimes. They
are not terrorizing other people in their neighborhoods. They're the
ones being terrorized. Why not agree with ICE the Trump
administration nip this in the bud and deport these trendy
Iragua gang members. Why defend them?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
No, absolutely agree. We cannot descend them, we cannot provide
sanctuary for them. But the problem that they're the ICE ROO.
Some of my best partners in every single one of
my investigations. I work closely with ICRO to utilize the
tools that they have at their disposal can not only
investigate the criminals, but to also convert and flip sources
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to provide information on the gang. But one of the
obstacles that are going to run into is there's no
way for us to as in law enforcement, to look
at the Venezuelan databases, to coordinate with Venezuelan to confirm, hey,
is this member a member of PVA. So we're going
to have to rely on good old, you know, knuckle dragging,
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dirty fingernails, casework agents that are in the field that
speak Spanish, that are able to form a bond with
informants and protect those informants, to include individuals who are
here illegally and we provide them sanctuary that you know,
with visas to if they were to provide information for it.
I've done it countless times with El Salvadorians. I've done
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it with members of the Dominican Republic and they get
the information you need. But that form, that street knowledge
has to be has to be sent out there that
we that trust can be had with law enforcement, that
there are members of FBI HSI who are not interested
in deporting you, but they're interested in getting rid of
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that bad element, just as you spoke, because people in
the Venezuelan community are good people looking to work and
earn a living. Oh, we got to get rid of
the bad element. And that builds starts with the trust
between law enforcement FBI and getting into these organizations with
Spanish speaking agents, with Spanish speaking officers, and working with
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local law enforcement lec Aurora and hopefully that those things
that they're being said by the mayor of Denver of
saying we're going to stand the line, hopefully that doesn't happen,
because you're just causing more of a problem for your
own community. Denying the gangs are here, Denying that the
criminal organizations are here, is just facilitating the gang, facilitating
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the criminal organizations. Those are absolutely dangerous comments that you're
making for the community, and you're just facilitating the criminality
to return and to thrive. So fortunately, hopefully they find
the good balance.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Dan Brunner, former FBI Special Agent. About a minute or
so that we have left, Dan just what the difference
is for the FBI for ICE coming in when they
would have cooperation from somebody like Aurora, PD versus these
sanctuary cities and states that are vowing to obstruct those investigations.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
It just makes the investigations more difficult and longer they
will get to it. They can't physically obstruct the FBI
from doing their jobs. If there is an individual who's
violating ceteral law, the FBI will conduct the investigation. If
they have probable cause to open a ceteral investigation, they
can do it. They cannot obstruct the FBI. They cannot
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obstruct physically stand in the way of HSI. So those
investigations will get conducted. It's either with or without them.
Either hopefully it's with them because it'll be easier, But
without it, it's just a little bit more difficult, but
it will get conducted. If you're violating a federal law,
you're in the United States, the FBI will find and
figure out the investigation.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Follow him on X said Daniel Underscore Brunner the number
one his website also Brunner sierragroup dot com. So thankful
for your time today, Daniel, great insights. Appreciate it very
much and we'll talk again on the other side. Thank you,
all right, Daniel Brunner joining us here on Ryan Schuling Live.
We come back the journalistic perspective, coming up with Savannah Hernandez.
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She's been on the ground in Aurora for turning point.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Aurora police appear to have struck the largest single blow
against migrant gang crime in the five months since they
first acknowledged that Venezuelan gangsters were targeting other migrants in Aurora.
APD brought in more than a dozen people overnight after
making fewer than a dozen arrests of suspected trend Ragua
members before that. More than half the Aurora police officers
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on duty last night were an in this operation.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
We have a problematic location in the city of Aurora.
We are not going to tolerate it. We are going
to address it. We are going to continue to focus
on it.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
The problematic location referred to there by Aurora Police Chief
Todd Chamberlain is the Edge at Lowry Apartment Complex near
Colfax in Dallas. For months, Aurora police have described the
gang's influence in the city as isolated. Pledged to root
them out of that property. In others, please say, last
night a man and a woman were kidnapped out of
their unit by a group of people taken to another
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apartment at the same complex, where they were tied up
and assaulted. The police chief says most of the victims
and suspects are believed to be Venezuelan migrants, and APD's
focusing on convincing immigrants that it is safe to talk
to local police. The chief reiterated today that Aurora police
do not have the legal authority to detain people based
solely on their immigration status.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
But I want to be very clear what we are
not going to do is over in force or over
at police to the people that are not involved in
criminal activity. I am not going to step away from
not using federal resources to focus and to take those
individuals into custody that are victimizing other people. And again,
whether that's DHS, whether that's ICE, whether that's HSI.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It is not about their documentation status. It is not
about whether they are documented.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Or on documented.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's about the fact that they are causing crime, they
are victimizing people, and they are going to be held accountable.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Chief Chamberlain says he's absolutely confident that this home invasion
was gang related, but he said it's too early to
say definitively that it was trend at Agua. The city
has repeatedly said that that apartment complex is a criminal
nuisance has been working with the owners on a deal
to shut it down, promising the people living there that
they get at least thirty days.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Notice. Well, it's nice that comrade Kyle at nine News
is finally caught up to the reporting that many of
us have been doing now for several months, rather than
obfuscating and distracting and diminishing and trying to to carry
water for the authorities that were saying, look, it's under control,
we're gonna niit this in the bud and then they didn't. Now,
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Todd Chamberlain is kind of new to the scene. I
want to give him a full, fair chance to address this.
And I did appreciate and I like a lot of
the comments that the new PD chief of Aurora made
last night. But the fact of the matter remains that
nineteen people were detained after this torture incident at apartments
that Cindy and Edward Merrill fled just a couple of
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buildings down and joining us. Now, she's been on the
front lines and at the front of this story. You're
reporting on it for Turning Point USA, and it was
her post on X that I read yesterday in my
conversation with Cindy Ramero. Her name is Savannah Hernandez and
she joined us now on Ryan Shuling Live.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Savannah, Welcome, Hi, Ryan, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Now, I know a lot of us who are covering
this story, and I'm including you in this conversation, are
frustrated by the fact that so many others are either
late to the party they're just now catching up, or
they've been denying it this whole time and trying to
make it seem like people like you and me are
exaggerating it for clicks and views and ratings and other
things and not really reporting on what's actually going on.
(23:11):
But the thing is, you were there, Savannah. So take
us back to when you first started reporting on this
gang activity in Aurora.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Sure, so, I'd covered the illegal immigration crisis over the
past four years from both the West coast to the
East coast. You know, I focused a lot in New
York and it was absolutely insane to see what was
going on over there. And when I saw this huge
migrant gang crisis happening in Colorado, I was quite frankly shocked,
because you know, the migrant crisis is really popping up
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in various areas throughout the United States that you wouldn't
even expect. So Aurora, Colorado, as we all know, went
viral because trend at Agua absolutely did take over an
apartment complex in the area. And then you had the
police chief at the time of Aurora tried to downplay this.
You had the mayor of Aurora, you had the mayor
of Denver try to cover this up. And when I
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was actually there in September, you even had NGO groups
that I discovered were paid for by the city of
Aurora and the City of Denver at that apartment complex,
at that location setting up press conferences with migrants to
make it seem like it was these from landlords that
were the problem and not trendad Agua. It was absolutely
insane to witness because back in September you actually had
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these NGO groups riding out in English signs for migrants
reading there's no trend ad aguas here, the apartments are safe.
This is a landlord issue. And then, of course, what
a couple of weeks later, we saw a lawsuit come
out by those very landlords who stay. Yes, indeed, not
only was our apartment complex taken over by trendad Agua,
but our management team has even been attacked and had
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their lives threatened. So it's been really horrific, quite frankly,
to see the local media in the Denver and Aurora
area absolutely down play this. Even the police chief look
the other way and Mike, you were talking about I
believe you guys have a new priest chief.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Now.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I was listening to the press conference that he was
giving yesterday, and this really is a one to eighty
from that original rhetoric that the previous police chief was stating,
where it was like, oh, it's really not a big issue,
residents shouldn't be worried. And again, this is quite frankly
a disservice to Aurora and even Denver residents, because it
is the responsibility of the police department to tell people
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how dangerous the community has become due to the what
is it now thirty to forty thousand Venezuelan and I
legal immigrants that have made their way to the area.
So when I went to Aurora, I was again quite
shocked at how big of a migrant population is in
the area, and I actually had a police officer in
Aurora reach out to me and he had to speak
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to me anonymously because what's happening with the police department
now is because there is national coverage on this, because
so many in the media has been bringing attention to
this in the independent media minds you right, like you know,
on the national scale, it was really fall News who
brought attention to this, and everybody else, the local media
and then other mainstream media were trying to say this
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wasn't an issue. So until independent media came in and
we're able to give police sources, you know, again a
voice to highlight what was going on, the residents were
being lied to. And again I apologize my response is
so long winded. My own local PEAE source yesterday came
out and told me that the records regarding the let's
(26:27):
call it a Venezuelan mob attack, because you know, if
you have fourteen people arrested, I believe that's what we
can categorize, the said. He came out and told me
that the reports have already been privatized, so that way
more information stopped leaking to the public about what happened yesterday.
But that one of the two victims, the female victims,
had her fingernails pulled out intentionally in a form of
what he quotes as torture, and that's what he states.
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He thinks the police chief yesterday used that word when
talking about this assault.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
This is why people are seeking out independent media. Savannah
Hernandez joining us. We are so thankful for her time
from Turning Points. You can follow her on x that
sav says sav underscore says, says Underscore and follow more
of her reporting on this. And this was brought to
my attention. It's why I reached out to you in
the first place. Savannah. You had details that had not
been shared with the public. And we've seen this pattern
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now and God loved the Aurora PD, the rank and file,
the officers who are on the ground. We're having to
respond to these attacks by the Venezuelan mob unit that
is trend de Arragua, and they've had been forced to communicate,
like you're saying, through back channels to yourself, to Daniel
Jorinsky on the Aurora City Council, to John Fabricatory. The
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former ice agent Cindy Romero was somebody who was able
to go public, but she did so at great risk
to both her and her husband, and she's been on
this very program. But you're so right. It took a
counter culture of media to shine a spotlight on this,
whereas other mainstream media were trying to maybe align themselves
with the powers that be, whether that be Denver or
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Aurora and the mayor's there or the governor Colorado Jared
polis in trying to diminish this. And I'm just trying
to get Savannah to the motivation of that why they
would want to displace blame to the apartment complex owners
rather than fess up it. There is a gang presence
here and not only is it a threat to the
community members of Aurora who are not in the Venezuelan community,
it is a specific threat to those who are. I
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don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Right, And I think that we can look at the
Denver mayor and his policy surrounding the migrants and mass deportation.
Now we know that Denver is a sanctuary city, and
you know this exact same thing happened in New York
right where Eric Adams, the Mayor of New York, initially
stated where a sanctuary city bringing the migrants, we want
to welcome everybody who want to be loving, blah blah blah,
and then two years later they're completely overrun, the crime
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is up, and it's just it's it's not feasible for
the residents to be living in this type of environment. Now,
Eric Adams, lucky, luckily for New Yorkers, that tracked and stated,
you know what, I was wrong, and this type of
Democrat policy is actually very bad for the citizens. The
sanctuary city doesn't work. We need to close the borders.
He backtracked on everything and said that he was wrong. Unfortunately,
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the mayor of Denver refuses to do so. Now I
know that Aurora isn't a sanctuary city, but of course
because Denver is, you guys are getting the overflow of
Venezuelan legal immigrants in your city. So I think, if anything,
this is just a huge cover up by the people
in power, because they refuse to acknowledge that their policies
are bad, that their politics are bad, and that they're
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putting people's lives at risk, and instead of coming in
and cleaning up, they're trying to run a pr campaign
essentially to try to make it seem like the migrants
really aren't that dangerous and bad. Let's go ahead and
divert blame to the landlords instead of getting to the
root of the problem, which is again criminals who should
never have been in this country to begin with. I mean,
let's think four years ago, did we have in the
headlines Venezuelan prison games taking over apartment complexes and harassing
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Americans in our headlines? No, we did not, So again,
this has to go. We have to point to leadership
in terms of who is to blame for this. They're
trying to cover this up. And again it's just preposterous
that police officers are having to come to me and say, hey,
I have to be anonymous because I'm trying to keep
my job. I've already been punished essentially for even asking
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questions within the department about this, So you know, having
to be anonymous and tell the truth about what's going on.
You know, great jobs if you Aurora police officers. And
it's just truly tragic that this is how things are
being run.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Truly outstanding reporting for turning Point USA, and again you
can follow her on x that sav says sav underscores says,
says Underscore. Savannah Hernandez Our guest just one final question, Savannah,
sincerely appreciate your time. We're thirty three days out now
from the inauguration of Donald Trump. We know that Operation
Aurora by name has been made a priority Tom Holman,
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the borders are that's incoming. We know that cash Hotel
likely to lead the FBI ice efforts to deport members
of trend or Rod will we hope here in Aurora?
What changes and how fast do you believe on January twenty.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Well, you know, mass deportations have been at the forefront,
and again the people gave Donald Trump a mandate to
get this done because, like I stated, this isn't just
an issue that's happening in New York or Colorado. This
has seeped into the innermost corners of the United States
of America. I was in Logan's Fort Indiana for crying
out loud. They're overrun with Haitian But I've never even
heard of Logan's for Indiana. So I really do think
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that Donald Trump again is going to really focus on
those mass deportations. Something that I will add on this
because you know, we're pretty aware of how Donald Trump
plans to do that. What people need to look out
for though, is NGOs across the nation, specifically in Democrat
run cities, that are going to try to stop these
deportations for happening, and are already in the process of
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teaching musical immigrants how to evade ice, how to stop
their friends from being deported, and essentially how to evade
again the legal mass deportations that are going to be
taking place. So that's going to kind of be my focus.
Think that, you know, we lived in a land of
law and order, Donald Trump would be able to apply
the law and deport these people as he should. Unfortunately,
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we have a lot of these liberal and geos that
are going to come in and already lane the groundwork
to try to keep these people illegally in our country.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
So many layers to this. Since she's reporting on each
and every one of them, Savannah Hernandez turning Point USA,
you can follow them on the whole at tp USA
on X as well. Savannah, so thankful for your time.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. We'll talk to you on
the other side.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Thanks Ryan.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
All right, Savanna Hernandez, your response to your reaction five
seven seven three nine. Closing out our one of this
Wednesday edition of RSL. After this, Emones, I want to
be data Jesse, you and me both man good choice
coming back Thermones, Well, they were like us. They loved
(32:55):
Ronald Reagan. They were libertarians. That was true punk rock
back in the day, and it's proto punk now. I
think to be right of center conservative, questioning the establishment.
I mean that's all coming from our side, not the
go along to get along rage for the machine as
that band turned into what a bunch of frauds anyway,
(33:17):
going to your tax five seven seven three nine, rounding
out this first hour of Ryan Schuling Live. Appreciate you
along for the ride here on this Wednesday, one week
before Christmas Day? Ryan, can you ask your guest about
what happens in the larger cities when these trendy Aragwa
gang members will engage with the American gangs like crips, Bloods, etc.
It's a good question, Texter, and I sent that to
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Dan Brunner, the former FBI special agent, and he gave
me this answer to your question. He said, no, I
don't think that there's much coordination cooperation between TDA and
other street gangs. We are hearing of battles going on
between street gangs in Chicago with TDA. Additionally, I think
a lot of street gangs are jealous of the quick
rise and attention that this gang TDA is getting. We
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know that they are in cooperation with Mexican cartels CJNNG
and Sinaloa that one I've heard of, which is a
lot worse for everybody involved. Up Here in Montana, that's
where Dan Brunner is. Those are the two cartels that
run operations there, so it only makes sense that TDA
moved up here as well. They are spreading everywhere like
a fungus, like a virus, and they need to be
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rooted out and removed. No matter where you stand on
the immigration debate, if you're even on the left, you
don't want Trend de Arragua here. They make life miserable
and worse for Venezuelans. Whether those Venezuelans are here illegal
or illegally, but they're just trying to look for a
better life. I have sympathy for those people. Get Trend
de Aragua the hell out of Aurora. A timeout. We're back,
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Lara Carno Faster Colorado Next
I want to breakdown an event that occurred last night,
(00:03):
and I think, without questioning as national attention based on
the circumstances of where the event actually occurred, and based
upon the incidences that have been in the city of
Aurora in the past, in and around this same location.
Last night, right at about eight forty five PM at
one two five eight Dallas Street. Of victims, it was
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a male and a female. They were accosted by approximately
thirteen to fifteen armed individuals. Thirteen of those were males
and three of those were possibly females at this time
is what we're thinking. They were taken to an adjoining
apartment complex against their will at that same Dallas complex,
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and they ended up at one two six ' eight
Dallas Again, this was the same complex, same area.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Todd Chamberlain, the Aurora PD chief, newly in not that
long ago, holding a press conference last night and detailing
what was happening at these apartment complexes which we have
been reporting on for months now, verified by Cindy and
Edramero themselves residents in that very location. I reached out
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to Cindy and asked her about twelve fifty eight Dallas Street,
and I asked her, how close is that to your
former residence? And she says, quote, I think three buildings down.
These are the buildings I said were the worst. Even
the illegals in my own building told me to stay
away from them, my goodness. And Cindy had it quite rough.
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She had bullet holes in her vehicle. She was trying
to gain favor with these Venezuelan mafioso's of Trende Aragua
by presenting them gifts like blankets and food, and in
return they kind of left her alone. In fact, they
even made fun of the cameras that she had hosted
up and were waving at them at first. I mean,
(02:03):
this is truly incredible. And this was Cindy's story and
for the large part of the summer and well before that,
with her husband ed installing those cameras. And you will
see if you watch Fox News, it'll credit Edward Romero
on a lot of the video that you see of
armed suspects intruding into other apartments and commandeering them whatever
(02:26):
verb you used there, there was some parsing of the
language by Comrade Kyle Clark and others who's finally reporting
on this. I might add last Night, Welcome to the party. Pal. Meanwhile,
Danielle Jorinski, John Fabricatory, Cindy Romero, the good reporting at
Fox thirty one here in Denver, Vicenti Arenas and others
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doing their jobs, unlike nine News, which was carrying the
water and attempting to obfuscate on behalf of the old
regime that led Aurora peace, and quite frankly and disappointingly,
on behalf of Mayor Mike Kaufman of Aurora. I still
don't understand where Mayor Kaufman is coming from and all
of this, or what he's trying to achieve by minimizing
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saying or diminishing this or trying to displace it. Just
listen to what happened here as well. And Chief Chamberlain,
he's very careful not to come right out and identify
it as trendy Aragua, but who else could it be
at this point. This was not happening before this influx
of illegals came to Aurora. And it's not all the illegals.
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In fact, a lot of them are Venezuelans themselves, who
are terrified for two reasons. One, trendy Aragua is commandeering
their residences. Two, they're afraid to go to police because
they themselves maybe are illegal and undocumented, and there are
levels of offenses that in a situation like this a
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crisis that you have to and I think Chief Chamberlain
does the right thing here and assuagees the fears of
those who might come forward by saying, look, if you're
here illegally, that's a battle for another day. We've got
to get this violent element out of Aurora.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Based on the actions that I saw, based upon how
this event unfolded, this is one hundred percent gang activity.
This gang activity at Dallas. There are Venzawellans involved, So
again there is a high assumption that they may be
affiliated or affiliated with the TDA gang. But again I
am not going to say one hundred percent positively until
that is validated and verified.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And this is the message you had for those terrorized
and terrified Venezuelan illegals who are here but are not
part of Trende Ragua, who are trying to live peacefully here,
and his assurances to them.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I also want to make sure that you understand something
that we have been trying to do since the beginning
of this, and that is have outreach with that community particularly.
I want to make sure that anybody, whether documented or
on documented, knows that they can call law enforcement and
will over respond and we will serve them the best
that we possibly can. There is no place in this country,
there is no place in this city where somebody should
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be victimized or mistreated based upon their documentation status.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
And one hundred percent accurate. They are trendy Aragua. The
gang members, these are nefarious types and they are targeting
fellow illegals intentionally knowing that they are less likely to
come forward to go to the police. Joining us now,
he's a former FBI special agent. He appeared on Fox
News this morning. You may have seen him, and my
thanks to John Fabricatory for making the connection. He is
(05:33):
Dan Runner and he joins us on Ryan Shuling Live. Dan,
thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Hi Ryan, thank you, thank you for having me. I
appreciate it your.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Response to everything you just heard and everything that you
know so far about this latest incident.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Listen, this is nothing that's surprising for me. I've been
I was an FBI agent for twenty years, and fifteen
of those years I was chasing Hispanic gangs. MS thirteen
to Nidadio's and at the tail end it was members
of Brinda Agua. So nothing surprises me, nothing surprises me
at all. It's you know, a spread. This has been
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going on for the last two years, the spread of
vind A Agua across this nation. And number one reason
is the amount of migrants that came across the border
during this administration, but in the Biden administration is abnormally large.
So you have a tremendous amount of migrants that came
into this country. Like you said, a majority of them
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or Venezuelans are majority of them are good people looking
for hard work. But inside those elements are the criminal organization,
the criminal elements. Nicholas Baduro and as President of Venezuela
has allowed and pushed out those and he facilitated all
of these members of Thendaragua to leave Venezuela and achieved
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two goals. One vacates the criminal element from his country
and two destabilized is the countries that they're going to.
This has been a known problem for many countries in
South America. Spanish is my first language. My parents were
immigrants to this country over fifty years ago. I know Chile,
I know Argentina and Peru and Colombia all are been
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suffering from thrend that I were for years that is
now moving into this country. What is coming here are
thrend that I were members in from there, coming from
South America, from Chile, where all these things that they've
been doing, all the things that you're seeing here, the
building takeovers, the extortion, the murder, the weapons trafficking, they
were all doing that in Chile for years. In Chile,
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about a year and a half ago, there's a big investigation.
A lieutenant from the Venezuelan government, Venezuelan army excuse me,
escaped to Venezuela and fled to Chile. He was found
by members of Thren that I was kidnapped, tortured and
then murdered, not unlike what happened in Aurora. Just they
was stopped short of murder. Those unfortunate individuals were kidnapped,
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they were tortured inside the apartment. And the fact that
they have now nineteen individuals that have been detained and
hopefully there will be subsequent arrests, it just shows you
that this is not going to stop. This is going
to continue. The administration in Colorado from the governor all
the way down to the police chief have been complicit
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in allowing and just turning the shoulders the interim chief.
That one of the biggest issues. When mister Romero came
forward with a video, you know, bravely came forward with
the video. The interim chief she went forward and she
had a camera set out in front of these buildings
which are again in question today, and they stood there
in front of the in front of the building and said,
there's nothing here. We're fine, there's no gang activity. We've
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spoken to the people there. I'm not going to say
that there's no gang, but we have no perion Aly.
What you don't know is a they're clearly lying to you,
and b that camera was a public affairs officer filming
police officers knocking on doors. People are not going to
talk to the police in uniform in front of their doors,
but especially in that when a camera is pointed at them.
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It's completely bogus. They don't they completely saying everything that
there is no gang problem. There is a gang problem.
It's been there for years. I knew in twenty fifteen
from FBI Newark, New Jersey, that Aurora, Colorado had a
gang problem. When I knew MS thirteam members were coming
out here, so it's nothing new. There shouldn't be a shock,
there shouldn't be a problem. And it's not just Aurora.
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This is across the country. They're here in Montana, they're
here in Chicago, Florida, Texas, New York. They're here and
they're a problem.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Insights from former FBI Special Agent Dan Brunner joining us
here on Ryan Schuling Live. Here is Aurora PD Chief
Todd Chamberlain, and again he is new to the post.
He is trying to pick up the pieces and clean
up the mess, and it sounds at least like he
is getting off on the right foot when it comes
to at least identifying the problem. And he gets very
specific here about what happened to this man and woman
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in an Aurora apartment complex. Listen to this.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The victims were held against their will. They were actually bound,
both the male and the female. They were pistol whipped,
they were beat they were victimized, they were terrorized.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
During this entire process.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Some of the suspects left that apartment complex at one
two six to eight Dallas and went over to the
victims apartment, which was located at one two five eight
Dallas and actually burglarized and took over that apartment and
took out items of value that belonged to our victims.
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And subsequently they came back.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And again that was Todd Chamberlain, Aurora PD chief. You
mentioned Heather Morris and her handling of this. Dan, I'm
trying to wrap my head around what is to be
gained by denying that this was happening, by trying to opt,
you skate, or minimize or to minish the claims made
by Cindy Romero and others. It wasn't just her, but
(11:04):
she's the one that came forward very importantly, as you mentioned,
with the video evidence that this was going on. And
you say the states back in Aurora to twenty fifteen,
So I guess my first question is from your experience
in the FBI, why Aurora, Why were trendy Iragua members
coming here that far back?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Well, you have to look at the it's the communities,
you're the Hispanic communities. That's where these gangs and these
criminal organizations thrive. One of the things I'm trying to
be very careful about is not calling for THENDA as
a gang, because they're not a gang. MS thirteen is
a gang. They are a group of kids sometimes you know,
causing trouble. PDA is a transnational criminal organization. They're high tech,
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they work well, they communicate across nations. Why Aurora I
would suspect it's because there is a Hispanic community and
they're able to blend in and they're be able to
most importantly do what they did last night is extort
their own people. They're able to extort it for two reasons. One,
like you said, the victims are afraid to come or
into other individuals in the community, are afraid to go
(12:08):
to law enforcement out of fear that they may get reported.
They don't trust law enforces. They don't trust the people
behind the badge. And number two is most importantly is
the fear that there may be retribution to other family
members back at their home country. They don't want to
have to provide information and then other TVA members that
are in the community will turn around and contact, you know,
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other resources that they have back in Gatacas in Venezuela,
and their members their family will suffer because they provide
a information. So the double they would rather get, you know,
rather pay the extortion, rather pay the blankets. It starts
little starts, small blankets, ten dollars, twenty dollars, and that's
where it begins and it gains momentum. The extortion of
these three buildings, which happened last year, is just now
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occurring in a different manner. It's it's constant, complicated, it's
it's you know, getting on top of itself. This right here,
what happened last night, for me, is a racketeering investigation.
The federal authorities FBI, Denver, SBI, HSI excuse me, HSI
Denver should get involved, and this could easily easily be
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the beginning of a racketearing investigation. But you have problems
with Department of Justice, you have problems with the SBI,
who both say, you know, they don't look kindly upon
Hispanic investigations. That's historically the regardless of administration, that's always
been the way I have to you know, faced its
head on in Newark, which is a high Hispanic community.
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So it's it's something that constantly is done. Hopefully you
know there, you know, this changes the tone I'm you know,
getting out and appreciate you know, news stations like yourself
putting out the good word, getting people on like myself
to talk about it, Gems Fabricatory and Daniel Durinski.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
I work with them.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I talked to them constantly, and you know, trying to
get your proper attention put to these guys because this
is a dangerous game. They're two to three excuse to
be three to five thousand members across this country in
different communities, and they are themselves each one of those
thems are recruiting ten twelve, thirteen year old ten a
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dozen of them, so they're multiplying exponentially if we don't
get ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
He is Dan Brunner, former FBI special agent, very well
versed on this topic, and Dan, you kind of touched
on something there. The numbers are growing, but not just
that they are becoming more brazen with their actions. We've
seen this within the last week. In fact, there was
a shootout just openly from vehicles, et cetera. There were
other arrests made and a separate incident and then this
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one happening just over the last twenty four to forty
eight hours. I guess take us through what you anticipate
will happen. We know we're going to see a change
in administration, we're going to see change in leadership at
the top, looking like Cash Pattel for the FBI, Tom Holman,
as borders are. We know that you have worked with
John Fabricatory in the past, he was with ICE. But
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we know also that Denver is a sanctuary city and
Colorado is a sanctuary state, and both the mayor of Denver,
Mike Johnston, and the Governor of Colorado, Jared Polis, have
voiced the stance that they are going to not help
with ICE, and in fact might obstruct ICE from coming
into the communities and cleaning this up, which I think
is so cold and heartless. Because of what we're talking about, Dan.
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There might be a lot of Venezuelan immigrants who are
here illegally, but they are not committing other crimes. They
are not terrorizing other people in their neighborhoods. They're the
ones being terrorized. Why not agree with ICE the Trump
administration nip this in the bud and deport these trendy
Iragua gang members. Why defend them?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
No, absolutely agree. We cannot descend them, we cannot provide
sanctuary for them. But the problem that they're the ICE ROO.
Some of my best partners in every single one of
my investigations. I work closely with ICRO to utilize the
tools that they have at their disposal can not only
investigate the criminals, but to also convert and flip sources
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to provide information on the gang. But one of the
obstacles that are going to run into is there's no
way for us to as in law enforcement, to look
at the Venezuelan databases, to coordinate with Venezuelan to confirm, hey,
is this member a member of PVA. So we're going
to have to rely on good old, you know, knuckle dragging,
(16:25):
dirty fingernails, casework agents that are in the field that
speak Spanish, that are able to form a bond with
informants and protect those informants, to include individuals who are
here illegally and we provide them sanctuary that you know,
with visas to if they were to provide information for it.
I've done it countless times with El Salvadorians. I've done
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it with members of the Dominican Republic and they get
the information you need. But that form, that street knowledge
has to be has to be sent out there that
we that trust can be had with law enforcement, that
there are members of FBI HSI who are not interested
in deporting you, but they're interested in getting rid of
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that bad element, just as you spoke, because people in
the Venezuelan community are good people looking to work and
earn a living. Oh, we got to get rid of
the bad element. And that builds starts with the trust
between law enforcement FBI and getting into these organizations with
Spanish speaking agents, with Spanish speaking officers, and working with
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local law enforcement lec Aurora and hopefully that those things
that they're being said by the mayor of Denver of
saying we're going to stand the line, hopefully that doesn't happen,
because you're just causing more of a problem for your
own community. Denying the gangs are here, Denying that the
criminal organizations are here, is just facilitating the gang, facilitating
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the criminal organizations. Those are absolutely dangerous comments that you're
making for the community, and you're just facilitating the criminality
to return and to thrive. So fortunately, hopefully they find
the good balance.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Dan Brunner, former FBI Special Agent. About a minute or
so that we have left, Dan just what the difference
is for the FBI for ICE coming in when they
would have cooperation from somebody like Aurora, PD versus these
sanctuary cities and states that are vowing to obstruct those investigations.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
It just makes the investigations more difficult and longer they
will get to it. They can't physically obstruct the FBI
from doing their jobs. If there is an individual who's
violating ceteral law, the FBI will conduct the investigation. If
they have probable cause to open a ceteral investigation, they
can do it. They cannot obstruct the FBI. They cannot
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obstruct physically stand in the way of HSI. So those
investigations will get conducted. It's either with or without them.
Either hopefully it's with them because it'll be easier, But
without it, it's just a little bit more difficult, but
it will get conducted. If you're violating a federal law,
you're in the United States, the FBI will find and
figure out the investigation.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Follow him on X said Daniel Underscore Brunner the number
one his website also Brunner sierragroup dot com. So thankful
for your time today, Daniel, great insights. Appreciate it very
much and we'll talk again on the other side. Thank you,
all right, Daniel Brunner joining us here on Ryan Schuling Live.
We come back the journalistic perspective, coming up with Savannah Hernandez.
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She's been on the ground in Aurora for turning point.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Aurora police appear to have struck the largest single blow
against migrant gang crime in the five months since they
first acknowledged that Venezuelan gangsters were targeting other migrants in Aurora.
APD brought in more than a dozen people overnight after
making fewer than a dozen arrests of suspected trend Ragua
members before that. More than half the Aurora police officers
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on duty last night were an in this operation.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
We have a problematic location in the city of Aurora.
We are not going to tolerate it. We are going
to address it. We are going to continue to focus
on it.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
The problematic location referred to there by Aurora Police Chief
Todd Chamberlain is the Edge at Lowry Apartment Complex near
Colfax in Dallas. For months, Aurora police have described the
gang's influence in the city as isolated. Pledged to root
them out of that property. In others, please say, last
night a man and a woman were kidnapped out of
their unit by a group of people taken to another
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apartment at the same complex, where they were tied up
and assaulted. The police chief says most of the victims
and suspects are believed to be Venezuelan migrants, and APD's
focusing on convincing immigrants that it is safe to talk
to local police. The chief reiterated today that Aurora police
do not have the legal authority to detain people based
solely on their immigration status.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
But I want to be very clear what we are
not going to do is over in force or over
at police to the people that are not involved in
criminal activity. I am not going to step away from
not using federal resources to focus and to take those
individuals into custody that are victimizing other people. And again,
whether that's DHS, whether that's ICE, whether that's HSI.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It is not about their documentation status. It is not
about whether they are documented.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Or on documented.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's about the fact that they are causing crime, they
are victimizing people, and they are going to be held accountable.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Chief Chamberlain says he's absolutely confident that this home invasion
was gang related, but he said it's too early to
say definitively that it was trend at Agua. The city
has repeatedly said that that apartment complex is a criminal
nuisance has been working with the owners on a deal
to shut it down, promising the people living there that
they get at least thirty days.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Notice. Well, it's nice that comrade Kyle at nine News
is finally caught up to the reporting that many of
us have been doing now for several months, rather than
obfuscating and distracting and diminishing and trying to to carry
water for the authorities that were saying, look, it's under control,
we're gonna niit this in the bud and then they didn't. Now,
(22:07):
Todd Chamberlain is kind of new to the scene. I
want to give him a full, fair chance to address this.
And I did appreciate and I like a lot of
the comments that the new PD chief of Aurora made
last night. But the fact of the matter remains that
nineteen people were detained after this torture incident at apartments
that Cindy and Edward Merrill fled just a couple of
(22:28):
buildings down and joining us. Now, she's been on the
front lines and at the front of this story. You're
reporting on it for Turning Point USA, and it was
her post on X that I read yesterday in my
conversation with Cindy Ramero. Her name is Savannah Hernandez and
she joined us now on Ryan Shuling Live.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Savannah, Welcome, Hi, Ryan, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Now, I know a lot of us who are covering
this story, and I'm including you in this conversation, are
frustrated by the fact that so many others are either
late to the party they're just now catching up, or
they've been denying it this whole time and trying to
make it seem like people like you and me are
exaggerating it for clicks and views and ratings and other
things and not really reporting on what's actually going on.
(23:11):
But the thing is, you were there, Savannah. So take
us back to when you first started reporting on this
gang activity in Aurora.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Sure, so, I'd covered the illegal immigration crisis over the
past four years from both the West coast to the
East coast. You know, I focused a lot in New
York and it was absolutely insane to see what was
going on over there. And when I saw this huge
migrant gang crisis happening in Colorado, I was quite frankly shocked,
because you know, the migrant crisis is really popping up
(23:41):
in various areas throughout the United States that you wouldn't
even expect. So Aurora, Colorado, as we all know, went
viral because trend at Agua absolutely did take over an
apartment complex in the area. And then you had the
police chief at the time of Aurora tried to downplay this.
You had the mayor of Aurora, you had the mayor
of Denver try to cover this up. And when I
(24:02):
was actually there in September, you even had NGO groups
that I discovered were paid for by the city of
Aurora and the City of Denver at that apartment complex,
at that location setting up press conferences with migrants to
make it seem like it was these from landlords that
were the problem and not trendad Agua. It was absolutely
insane to witness because back in September you actually had
(24:24):
these NGO groups riding out in English signs for migrants
reading there's no trend ad aguas here, the apartments are safe.
This is a landlord issue. And then, of course, what
a couple of weeks later, we saw a lawsuit come
out by those very landlords who stay. Yes, indeed, not
only was our apartment complex taken over by trendad Agua,
but our management team has even been attacked and had
(24:47):
their lives threatened. So it's been really horrific, quite frankly,
to see the local media in the Denver and Aurora
area absolutely down play this. Even the police chief look
the other way and Mike, you were talking about I
believe you guys have a new priest chief.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Now.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I was listening to the press conference that he was
giving yesterday, and this really is a one to eighty
from that original rhetoric that the previous police chief was stating,
where it was like, oh, it's really not a big issue,
residents shouldn't be worried. And again, this is quite frankly
a disservice to Aurora and even Denver residents, because it
is the responsibility of the police department to tell people
(25:23):
how dangerous the community has become due to the what
is it now thirty to forty thousand Venezuelan and I
legal immigrants that have made their way to the area.
So when I went to Aurora, I was again quite
shocked at how big of a migrant population is in
the area, and I actually had a police officer in
Aurora reach out to me and he had to speak
(25:45):
to me anonymously because what's happening with the police department
now is because there is national coverage on this, because
so many in the media has been bringing attention to
this in the independent media minds you right, like you know,
on the national scale, it was really fall News who
brought attention to this, and everybody else, the local media
and then other mainstream media were trying to say this
(26:06):
wasn't an issue. So until independent media came in and
we're able to give police sources, you know, again a
voice to highlight what was going on, the residents were
being lied to. And again I apologize my response is
so long winded. My own local PEAE source yesterday came
out and told me that the records regarding the let's
(26:27):
call it a Venezuelan mob attack, because you know, if
you have fourteen people arrested, I believe that's what we
can categorize, the said. He came out and told me
that the reports have already been privatized, so that way
more information stopped leaking to the public about what happened yesterday.
But that one of the two victims, the female victims,
had her fingernails pulled out intentionally in a form of
what he quotes as torture, and that's what he states.
(26:49):
He thinks the police chief yesterday used that word when
talking about this assault.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
This is why people are seeking out independent media. Savannah
Hernandez joining us. We are so thankful for her time
from Turning Points. You can follow her on x that
sav says sav underscore says, says Underscore and follow more
of her reporting on this. And this was brought to
my attention. It's why I reached out to you in
the first place. Savannah. You had details that had not
been shared with the public. And we've seen this pattern
(27:15):
now and God loved the Aurora PD, the rank and file,
the officers who are on the ground. We're having to
respond to these attacks by the Venezuelan mob unit that
is trend de Arragua, and they've had been forced to communicate,
like you're saying, through back channels to yourself, to Daniel
Jorinsky on the Aurora City Council, to John Fabricatory. The
(27:35):
former ice agent Cindy Romero was somebody who was able
to go public, but she did so at great risk
to both her and her husband, and she's been on
this very program. But you're so right. It took a
counter culture of media to shine a spotlight on this,
whereas other mainstream media were trying to maybe align themselves
with the powers that be, whether that be Denver or
(27:56):
Aurora and the mayor's there or the governor Colorado Jared
polis in trying to diminish this. And I'm just trying
to get Savannah to the motivation of that why they
would want to displace blame to the apartment complex owners
rather than fess up it. There is a gang presence
here and not only is it a threat to the
community members of Aurora who are not in the Venezuelan community,
it is a specific threat to those who are. I
(28:18):
don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Right, And I think that we can look at the
Denver mayor and his policy surrounding the migrants and mass deportation.
Now we know that Denver is a sanctuary city, and
you know this exact same thing happened in New York
right where Eric Adams, the Mayor of New York, initially
stated where a sanctuary city bringing the migrants, we want
to welcome everybody who want to be loving, blah blah blah,
and then two years later they're completely overrun, the crime
(28:43):
is up, and it's just it's it's not feasible for
the residents to be living in this type of environment. Now,
Eric Adams, lucky, luckily for New Yorkers, that tracked and stated,
you know what, I was wrong, and this type of
Democrat policy is actually very bad for the citizens. The
sanctuary city doesn't work. We need to close the borders.
He backtracked on everything and said that he was wrong. Unfortunately,
(29:05):
the mayor of Denver refuses to do so. Now I
know that Aurora isn't a sanctuary city, but of course
because Denver is, you guys are getting the overflow of
Venezuelan legal immigrants in your city. So I think, if anything,
this is just a huge cover up by the people
in power, because they refuse to acknowledge that their policies
are bad, that their politics are bad, and that they're
(29:25):
putting people's lives at risk, and instead of coming in
and cleaning up, they're trying to run a pr campaign
essentially to try to make it seem like the migrants
really aren't that dangerous and bad. Let's go ahead and
divert blame to the landlords instead of getting to the
root of the problem, which is again criminals who should
never have been in this country to begin with. I mean,
let's think four years ago, did we have in the
headlines Venezuelan prison games taking over apartment complexes and harassing
(29:51):
Americans in our headlines? No, we did not, So again,
this has to go. We have to point to leadership
in terms of who is to blame for this. They're
trying to cover this up. And again it's just preposterous
that police officers are having to come to me and say, hey,
I have to be anonymous because I'm trying to keep
my job. I've already been punished essentially for even asking
(30:13):
questions within the department about this, So you know, having
to be anonymous and tell the truth about what's going on.
You know, great jobs if you Aurora police officers. And
it's just truly tragic that this is how things are
being run.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Truly outstanding reporting for turning Point USA, and again you
can follow her on x that sav says sav underscores says,
says Underscore. Savannah Hernandez Our guest just one final question, Savannah,
sincerely appreciate your time. We're thirty three days out now
from the inauguration of Donald Trump. We know that Operation
Aurora by name has been made a priority Tom Holman,
(30:49):
the borders are that's incoming. We know that cash Hotel
likely to lead the FBI ice efforts to deport members
of trend or Rod will we hope here in Aurora?
What changes and how fast do you believe on January twenty.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Well, you know, mass deportations have been at the forefront,
and again the people gave Donald Trump a mandate to
get this done because, like I stated, this isn't just
an issue that's happening in New York or Colorado. This
has seeped into the innermost corners of the United States
of America. I was in Logan's Fort Indiana for crying
out loud. They're overrun with Haitian But I've never even
heard of Logan's for Indiana. So I really do think
(31:26):
that Donald Trump again is going to really focus on
those mass deportations. Something that I will add on this
because you know, we're pretty aware of how Donald Trump
plans to do that. What people need to look out
for though, is NGOs across the nation, specifically in Democrat
run cities, that are going to try to stop these
deportations for happening, and are already in the process of
(31:47):
teaching musical immigrants how to evade ice, how to stop
their friends from being deported, and essentially how to evade
again the legal mass deportations that are going to be
taking place. So that's going to kind of be my focus.
Think that, you know, we lived in a land of
law and order, Donald Trump would be able to apply
the law and deport these people as he should. Unfortunately,
(32:07):
we have a lot of these liberal and geos that
are going to come in and already lane the groundwork
to try to keep these people illegally in our country.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
So many layers to this. Since she's reporting on each
and every one of them, Savannah Hernandez turning Point USA,
you can follow them on the whole at tp USA
on X as well. Savannah, so thankful for your time.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. We'll talk to you on
the other side.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Thanks Ryan.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
All right, Savanna Hernandez, your response to your reaction five
seven seven three nine. Closing out our one of this
Wednesday edition of RSL. After this, Emones, I want to
be data Jesse, you and me both man good choice
coming back Thermones, Well, they were like us. They loved
(32:55):
Ronald Reagan. They were libertarians. That was true punk rock
back in the day, and it's proto punk now. I
think to be right of center conservative, questioning the establishment.
I mean that's all coming from our side, not the
go along to get along rage for the machine as
that band turned into what a bunch of frauds anyway,
(33:17):
going to your tax five seven seven three nine, rounding
out this first hour of Ryan Schuling Live. Appreciate you
along for the ride here on this Wednesday, one week
before Christmas Day? Ryan, can you ask your guest about
what happens in the larger cities when these trendy Aragwa
gang members will engage with the American gangs like crips, Bloods, etc.
It's a good question, Texter, and I sent that to
(33:38):
Dan Brunner, the former FBI special agent, and he gave
me this answer to your question. He said, no, I
don't think that there's much coordination cooperation between TDA and
other street gangs. We are hearing of battles going on
between street gangs in Chicago with TDA. Additionally, I think
a lot of street gangs are jealous of the quick
rise and attention that this gang TDA is getting. We
(34:00):
know that they are in cooperation with Mexican cartels CJNNG
and Sinaloa that one I've heard of, which is a
lot worse for everybody involved. Up Here in Montana, that's
where Dan Brunner is. Those are the two cartels that
run operations there, so it only makes sense that TDA
moved up here as well. They are spreading everywhere like
a fungus, like a virus, and they need to be
(34:21):
rooted out and removed. No matter where you stand on
the immigration debate, if you're even on the left, you
don't want Trend de Arragua here. They make life miserable
and worse for Venezuelans. Whether those Venezuelans are here illegal
or illegally, but they're just trying to look for a
better life. I have sympathy for those people. Get Trend
de Aragua the hell out of Aurora. A timeout. We're back,
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