September 2, 2025 • 32 mins
In the second hour of today's show, Deborah Flora continues filling in for Ryan Schuiling. In this hour, she discusses the waning birth and marriage rates among the youth in America and discusses what might change that.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That I am not Ryan schuling.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is Deborah Flora. So happy to be sitting in
for my friend Ryan. I get to join him in
the same studio every Friday at two o'clock as we
talk about the intersection of Hollywood and politics with Christian
Toto as well.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
But really happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And first of all, I hope you had a wonderful
Labor Day weekend. Yeah, the founding of Labor Day Weekend
is a little bit from more the Marxist Manifesto, but
my head is off to everybody who works really hard
and hope that you had a great weekend not working hard.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'll be sitting in for Ryan this coming Thursday and
following Monday as well. I won't be here on Friday
because something important you should know about.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Me is I'm not only a mom. I'm a football mom.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And Friday weekt to go see our son play college
football on the Naia basically a D two level game
he'll be starting, and so excited about that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I got my hat to prove it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm trying to channel my inner Ryan by wearing sports attire,
but not his sports attire because I'm married to a.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Buck guy, So I do have to start out with
huah go Buck.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Guys now ranked number one, and then I'm a huge
fan of the team our son plays for. And then
after that, I'm a Colorado girl. If you don't know,
I grew up here on Lowry Air Force Base.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I always joke and say.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
If you ever forget my name, just remember I'm Senora
de Bora Flora from Aurora.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
There you go. I'm married into that, but good to
be here.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And a lot of what informs me about my love
of this great state is growing up in it, but
growing up in it at a time when things were
a lot more balanced.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
There was a balance under the dome.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
There was balance in our policy, and I always think
that's good. I'm a constitutional conservative, but I believe in balance.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, we're far from that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
We're going to talk about some of what that is impacting,
but I'll start with this announcement that just happened. Our
not being balanced has led to the decision by President
Trump to move Space Force from Colorado Springs to Huntsville, Alabama.
And now I'm using his quote, not mine. He basically
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indicated in the press conference that just happened that part
of the reason was because of the policies that go
on in Colorado. You might feel good, bad, right wrong
about that. I do want to hear from you. Please
text at five seven seven three nine. That's five seven
seven three point nine. I want to hear your thoughts
about that. The move of space Force to Huntsville, Alabama.
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I do know this. It certainly is not going to
help the downward trajectory of the Colorado economy. We will
get to that because we've gone from one of the
most prosperous states to one of the lowest states. In fact,
we went from being ranked fifth, we being Colorado in
the nation for economic.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Growth to forty first. Just think about that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We went from number five Colorado and economic growth to
forty first. I mean the lower ten, top five to
bottom ten in just fifteen years. And by the way,
space Force will be taking with it sixteen hundred jobs,
immediate jobs, and then a lot of other impact and influence.
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You know, and I know Congressman Jeff.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Crank really fought to keep that from happening. But at a.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Certain point in time, there are consequences to this environment
that's been created by the lack of balance in our system.
Now gonna talk about that. We're gonna have a great show,
going to discuss that some other trends. We're gonna have
good news, believe it or not. Yes, we're gonna share
some good news beyond the Ohio State buk guys being
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number one in college football.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That is good news.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But we're going to talk about other good news as well,
and coming up in the second hour, we're gonna have
a great guest joining me, Laura. She has really spent
so much of her life focusing on things that actually
help keep our students safe. I want to start with
that topic, but I want to frame it this way.
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I am first and foremost a mom, but I remember
growing up in Colorado. I had two family members who
were in Columbine when it happened, really in many ways,
the first of its kind shocking to the world.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And then being a mom whose.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Children were in the Douglas County school district the same
day that the Stem school shooting happened, and good friends
with the Castillos who lost their very brave, courageous son,
Kendrick in that Stem school shooting. I remember getting a
call from our daughter who was in lockdown, and then
two days later they had another alert because there was
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a bomb alert that was going on when they're about
to have a school assembly, and I remember I wanted
to say to our daughter, don't worry, You're safe, but
I stopped midway through.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Because I thought, can I really say that.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, here we are now in the wake of the
Minneapolis school shooting last week, and once again the conversation
about what will actually make our students safe is getting hijacked.
And I don't know about you, but I am really
tired of that, the quick knee jerk reaction to make
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everything about the guns, nothing about the motivation, nothing about
practical things that will keep our children safe. And that's
why coming up at two o'clock excuse me, three o'clock,
I'm going to have Laura Carno join me with Faster Colorado,
and we're going to talk about some practical things that
will actually keep our students safe. One of the number
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one things is being able to have an actual conversation
about what occurred. Once again, Deborah Flora, sitting in for
Ryan Shuling, please text about this really important tomic topic
at five seven, seven thirty nine before I get into
those who don't want us to have this very open,
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unafraid and unapologetic conversation. I want to share the numbers again.
I'm sure you are very aware. Last Wednesday, a twenty
three year old Robert slash Robin Westman. And by the way,
before anyone starts sending me hate as to which name
I am using, Robin Westman has to be Robin in
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twenty twenty and then later right before this, perpetrating this
horrific act said in his manifesto that he knows he's
not a woman.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So I'm going to say Robert just for.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
The conversation, and most of the time I'm going to
say Westman, because a murder of this type does not
deserve a whole lot of sensitivity to how they are
referred to. But anyway, Westman, as we know, last week
to Annunciation Church in Minneapolis, killed two children, seventeen were injured,
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and of those seventeen fourteen were children. So yes, we
need to have a serious conversation about this. What I
find really interesting in the wake of all this is
the covering up. Back in the day before I went
to college and then I had temporary insanity to be
an actress, I was being trained to be an on
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air journalists, broadcast journalists here in kyler Oath KMGH. At
the time it was Channel seven, and I remember when
there was real broadcast journalism. That has pretty much faded
by the wayside. The New York Times said this after
this shooting last Wednesday. They said, quote, the motive is
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a mystery. That's pretty interesting considering Westman, the perpetrator, left
a manifesto, left videos, and they kept claiming the New
York Times, all these experts are insisting that we may
never know the motives of the and they kept emphasizing
the transgender identified mass shooter.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, I think we have a lot of ideas. We
all know that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Scrawled on some of the magazines were wards like for
the children, where's your God killed?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
The manifesto was anti Catholic, anti Christian, anti Semitic, anti Conservative.
It goes on and on and on. But here's one
of the points we're going to get to later. Because
one of the things that Westman wrote in his manifesto
was quote I'm feeling good about.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Nunciation, meaning choosing that as a target.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Why Because he said it seems like a good combo
of easy attack form and devastating tragedy coming up at
three o'clock. We're going to talk about the fact, and
I want you to hear these numbers because we're talking
about real mass shootings, not how it gets obfuscated with
every kind of shooting that has involved a firearm, but
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shootings approximately ninety four to ninety five percent of them
occurring gun free zones, and zero have occurred as of
this date that I'm aware of. Will clarify that with
Laura Carno. In schools where there is an armed professional,
I'm not trying it just an soro, but a staff
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member of some sort who is armed. Okay, let's just
get that clear. Why did Westman choose this school? Saying
I'm feeling good about it because it's a good combo
of easy attack form and devastating tragedy. This person went
on to say, I do it to please myself. I
do it because I am sick, talking about both his
physical and mental health, and went on and on. I'm
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not going to glorify anything by sharing too much more
of what Westman said, But the important thing is this,
if anyone tries to shut you down from actually talking
about the motives. Motives matter, I want to hear from
you five seven seven three nine. Do you think the
motive matters as much as the weapon that was used?
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Because by the way, they're banning knives in UK now
because they've got such strong gun laws, But that doesn't
stop those with a motive. But I want to share
where we are in those who want to stop down,
stop this actual inquiry, and we need to have this inquiry.
When I was on with Ryan on Friday, if you're
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just tuning in, Deborah Flora sitting in for Ryan.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Shuling, he has what he calls the full of the week.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And my award had to go to Jensaki for this
comment that she shared when she was talking about what
she thought was pre eminently important after this shooting, which
was not getting to the bottom of it, it was
making sure certain information did not get out.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Zach, why don't we play that God?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
There has already been sort of some effort, which I
think is so sick and disgusting to weaponize some of
the details, even if we we don't know a lot
at this point in time, and obviously the law enforcement
in your city have been keeping people abreast, including details
about the individual possibly being trands about the individual possibly
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having negative things to say about Trump about some things
that have been on the weapons.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
A lot of this is just very early reporting. What
do you do as a leader of your city to
prevent details from being weaponized and using this to blame
something other than the guns.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Okay, let's just be really clear.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
This person was a white house over the news that
was going on under the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This is somebody who is supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
For journalism, and what was Jen Saki's pre eminent concern
to make sure to prevent certain details that would take
the focus away from the guns. Well, that's troubling because
reality is, we need to know. This is a disturbing pattern.
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You know what, here's the thing that gets me most
of all. Maybe you do think it is the guns.
But let's come together and have a real conversation instead
of being shut down and instead of having a sensitivity
of saying that the American people are.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Either too buffoon is to actually.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Handle the details or really don't have a right to
know what the motive might be.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know, So let's look.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
At this, by the way, because it doesn't matter what
weapon is chosen, the motive is important to know. Here's
something I want to give a shout out to an
actual media source, which is The Tennessee Star.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
The Tennessee Star.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
After the March twenty twenty three Covenant School shooting in Nashville, Tennessee. Yes,
once again, I'm going to share an inconvenient detail. This
was the shooter was Audrey quote Aiden Hill, identified as
a transgender male. I'm not saying that's the cause, but
I'm not going to obfuscate what is actually a fact.
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It took them a year to get the manifesto released
from that murderer, but they did their job. And when
The Tennessee Star finally released that a year after the shooting,
here's what they said why they did it. They said,
it helped us inform the public about the underlying reasons
for this heinous attack, and we have helped drive the
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public discussion of what should be done to prevent such
acts of violence in the future, and documented a massive
failure of the mental health system. There's anyone listening that
doesn't believe that mental health is an issue with this
rising trend of shootings, actually to say mass killings, because
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it doesn't matter whether it's shooting or otherwise. People have
been driving trucks through crowds. They've been doing naive attacks.
I mean, it's whatever the weapon is chosen. As we
saw on Boulder it was a Molotov cocktail. I want
to know if anyone does not think the motive is
a key detail, because that has to be what we
begin to look at.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But let's look at some of this.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Andy nomany of you know him, no pun intended there.
He's been boldly as a member of the LGB community
speaking out about what he sees as a very unprecedented
rise in the last four years of these type of
attacks coming from those that are in the transgender or
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non binary community. Now, once again, let me say this,
because people love to jump an attack. I am not
saying there's a direct correlation. I am saying that it
is okay for us to ask and look.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
At the details. So let's just look at this.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
By the way, a lot of people, by the way,
you'll look online and they'll say, oh, this is a
This doesn't really matter because over the last twenty years,
it's a small number. And then they include, you know,
shootings like in the streets of Chicago that are crime related.
But we're time at the last four or five years
as this trend towards the full embracing and a larger number.
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This is not a disputiful fact of people transitioning have occurred.
March twenty twenty three the Covenant School shooting in Nashville, Tennessee.
In the manifesto that was finally released, it was filled
with hatred towards people of faith, very much all about
a gender ideology. And that person said, I'm ready. I
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hope my victims aren't. I hope I have a high
death count. What's another similar similarity, By the way, the
shooting took place in a gun free zone in a school.
November nineteen, twenty twenty two, Club Q and Colorado Springs
Anderson Lely Aldrich five killed and forty others injured.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And that was a horrendous attack.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
May seventh, twenty nine, the Stem shooting here in Highlands
Ranch Kendra Castillo.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I know his parents well. He bravely gave his life.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
The trans identified female teen Alec McKenny or male teen
Alec McKenny, transmel student gets very hard to go through
the facts said the motive was because they were going
after those who they considered to be against transgenderism and
another one that nobody looks at. September twenty, twenty eighteen,
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right out right aid warehouse in Maryland, twenty six year
old killed three people and injured three others, identifying their
transgender status as part of their motivation.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Now right wrong? Who knows, But the reality is it's
something that we need to be able to talk about
when we come back. I want to hear from you.
Do you think there's a correlation.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Do you think it's something we should look at, because
I'm going to bring us some other statistics and I
want to hear from you. Please text into five seven
seven three nine five seven seven three nine. Deborah Flora
sitting in for Ryan Shuling. Welcome back to the Ryan
Sholing Show. This is Deborah Flora sitting in for Ryan.
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Hope you are having a great day, so appreciate your
being a part of the conversation.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Want to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Text Ryan at the beginning of your comment to five
seven seven three nine. That's five seven seven three nine. Well,
we're daring to have the conversation that people like Jen
Saki are saying that we should not about really the
motives behind some of these shootings that we're hearing some
of these disturbing trends, things that we need to be
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able to discuss as a free society. I want to
hear from you if you agree with me, and if
you don't five seven seven three nine, make sure you
start with the word Ryan, so I know it's for
this show even though I'm not Ryan, but that's okay,
I'll still get your comment. I just want to wind
this portion up because we've talked about how after the
Covenant shooting that the manifesto that was based predominantly on
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the perpetrator, the murderer, talking about their hatred people of faith.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
This was their school that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
They had gone to and definitely motivated a lot by
their transgender identification. Same with the manifesto that was a
part of what happened in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And I just want to share a couple of.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Things, and I want to say this in sympathy, by
the way, for anyone who identifies as transgender. I've witnessed
first hand how there are so many people online that
feed into this frenzy of what Andy No, who describes
it well calls a promotion of violence with the transgender community.
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That does not mean that everyone that is in that
community is violent, but there is a targeting of that community,
and it's actually they refer to what they're being told
as transgenocide. So if you tell someone enough times that
everyone is out to get them, they are going to
be murdered, They're going to be killed.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
What happens this sort of thing can be a result
of it. You add with that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
The promotion of violence across the US. There are many
sites now on social media. Many of us don't know
about them because we don't visit them where they're actually
called trantifa. And I once again not saying this is
across the board, it's you know, I'm being very careful
about this because I want to be able to speak freely.
But when we have segments of our population there are
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being radicalized by information that is not true, they're definitely
being made to turn and see the enemy as someone
that they better strike out against before they get struck at.
And obviously a lot of these posts have in them
anti Semitism and Christian, anti Catholic, etc. And I just
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want to say, from my own personal experience, I had
the privilege to lead a couple of the rallies and
from the Supreme Court steps when certain cases were being
argued within those Hallett Halls with the highest court of
the land, and of the times I had been there,
no matter what the issue is, the greatest violence that
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we faced was when there were transgender activists that overran
our group, were screaming in people's ears, were trying to
rush the sands. And then when an Orthodox rabbi exited
the area where we were doing the press conference, he
was surrounded by these violent, these radicalized folks. I think
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they had to sign saying Trantifa.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And they circled this.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Rabbi and then you can see it on video and
started screaming at him, calling him a Nazi. Look, if
you're a person of goodwill, we've got to call this
out everywhere that we see it, so we can't be
afraid to talk about it. We can't be afraid to
address it, and I think it is an important thing
to do.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I'm going to switch gears here because there's some other
things that I want to talk about and so much
to cover. But where is his time with some of
the other top headlines, Because right now, in the wake
of what happened in Minnesota, there are so many different
places where blame is being thrown even as we're being
lectured to to not in any way talk about the
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manifestos that the shooter and the one in Covenant School
had out there that had a lot to do with
their gender ideology. We're not supposed to talk about that,
but we are supposed to blame Christians. We've heard the
mayor of Minneapolis talk about how, you know, how shouldn't
be praying, no praying, even as he's talking about the
kids who were praying as they were murdered or shot.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
The attack on guns.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well, here's what I want to switch gears, because there's
another headline that we've all seen. If it was about
the guns, if gun control was the answer, then let's
just be really clear, Chicago would be the safest city
really on the planet, definitely in the United States of America,
some of the strongest gun laws, as many of us know.
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Right now, it's a center of a lot of national
attention because Trump is talking about using the National Guard
in Chicago because of the high crime rate.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Now, I haven't really taken a.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Deep dive into the constitutionality about that, but I do
know in DC I'm a supporter of it because that
is our nation's capital. That is a federal city that
is supposed to be a city of the seat of
the federal government. Whether or not that's his role, it
brings up a bigger issue this weekend. I hope you
had a safe and wonderful Labor Day weekend, because in
Chicago that a spike in violence over Labor Day weekend.
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And according to Chicago Police Department, over Labor Day weekend,
at least thirty five.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
People were shot in the city.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Thirty five people over one weekend, and for thirteen consecutive years,
Chicago has had the most murders of any US city,
by the way, double the murder rate of Islamabad, nearly
fifteen times more than Delhi. That is not something that
you were aiming for. So let's just honestly have a
clear conversation. When you have extreme laws on the Second
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Amendment prohibiting law abiding citizens from caring, who ends up caring. Well,
we can see in Chicago it hasn't solved the issue
because it's usually the criminals that are caring. Now, the
only thing more shocking than these statistics in Chicago is
this statistic. You may or may not know this, but
Colorado by some statistics, by some ratings, is actually worse.
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And I say this not as something where I'm happy
to kind of throw the you know whatever, the vegetables
at a policy.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It's because it makes me very sad.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I remember growing up in Colorado so enjoying going to
the sixteenth stringt Mall, feeling like it's such a wonderful place,
well of a safe environment where you could go and
you could be there right now as a mom our
kids are in their early twenties, but we are very
careful about when and where they go. But here's the statistic.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
This was from twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Colorado had the highest violent crime rate among the twenty
two most populous states, more.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Than Illinois that has Chicago in it.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
The newest report has Colorado's third highest crime rate overall.
I just want to talk about this because there are
consequences to elections, there are consequences to policies. We're going
to be coming up on twenty twenty six, and there
are very few jobs that government is actually supposed to do. So,
if you haven't heard me say this before, here's my
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philosophy on governance and America. I believe that America is
that revolutionary idea once pretty much in all of human history,
that every individual has intrinsic value their individual therefore individual
liberty and government has only one job to protect the
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rights and the safety of its citizens.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's pretty much it.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So how are we doing Colorado number three in crime rate? Overall?
The other thing that we're going to switch into before
and you know we're about to head to a break,
but I want to share this too, Colorado's economy. And
by the way, we have a you know, our kids
are twenty and twenty one, so we have young adults
who are facing that same pressure that almost every gen
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Zer is now more less optimistic, more pessimistic than the
previous generation.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
In economy, here's breaking.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
News as we just get out of a special session
that our state legislator has worked us into and Governor
Polis and the spending of our state has worked us
into this deficit.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
The Colorado economy. We have fallen from economic growth.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
We were fifth in the nation to forty first and
just fifteen years, just fifteen years. When we come back
and talk about some of the things that had been
driving that. But if you miss the very beginning of
the show, well we just lost sixteen hundred more jobs
because Space Force is.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Being moved to Alabama.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Now we know that right now under the dome and
under the governor's mansions roof. They like to blame the
current president for all of these woes, but guess what
Colorad' is hitting in the wrong direction because of the
policies within our own state. Well, there are other states
that are absolutely blossoming. One example, by the way, I'm
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happy about this because we're gonna be driving to go
watch our son play football this weekend. But Labor Day
weekend had the lowest gas prices since twenty twenty. So no,
you can't blame everything, by the way, on the federal
government when it comes to what's happening in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
We went from fifth to forty first time. To turn
it around. We're going to talk about with some of
those driving factors when we get back, and I want
to hear from you. Cross.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Got some good news, by the way, so be sure
to text in text in Ryan at five seven, seven
thirty nine. I'm Deborah Flora sitting in for Ryan shuling
a wonderful Labor Day weekend. It really felt like the
kickoff of fall because we're kind of a football family.
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So we watched football. We got to see the Buck.
Guys do great. This weekend, I'm gonna get to go
and go with my husband and watch our son play football.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
He's going to be starting as a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
So you know, anyway, I just hope you're enjoying that
change of season. It is a great time of year.
So that's a good news. But guys, number one, our
son's playing football. That's all good news. I've got some
other good news I'm going to share as well. But
I want to I want to wind up with some
of these things that we're talking about because as we
start looking to roll into twenty twenty six, there's going
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to be a lot of big decisions that we're all
going to have to make. And when you look at
the basic role of government, Colorado is not going in
the right direction. You know, we talked about Chicago, and
by the way, even more shootings were reported over the
weekend in Chicago. Now it's up to fifty eight shootings
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just over Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Eight fatalities. Can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But here's what's even more shocking is I just shared
Colorado the twenty twenty three FBI report had Colorado as
highest and violent crime amongst the twenty two most populous states,
meaning we are higher in violent crime than Illinois that
has Chicago, or New York that has New York City.
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So by that marker heading in the wrong direction, as
we know, we've been up there. When it comes to car,
thept etc. Then we share a time on the economy
because even economically, and these.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Are the basic roles.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Of government, protecting the safety the infrastructure, always us look
at our roads, particularly if you're in one of the
rural areas, to know that that's not being done very
well either with all of our taxpayer dollars, but then
creating an environment in which the backbone of the economy,
which are usually small business owners who are the largest
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creator of jobs. The government doesn't create jobs, by the way,
just little hashtag government is not a job creator. They
can only add to the size and bloat of government.
But what's going on in Colorado to make us drop
in economic growth from fifth in the nation.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
To forty first in just fifty years?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
By the way, when Governor Polis runs for president, these
are the things he needs to answer for because the
only thing that has kept us from really going even
further down. Is the fact that we have tabor that
keeps them from spending all of the taxpayer dollars without
asking for our permission. But we have dropped so much,
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and the Chlorid Chamber of Commerce has report telling us
why this has happened. Colorado ranks six. That sounds good, right,
but six in the nation for regulation on business. Now,
when you regulate something, when you tax something, you get.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Less of it.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
There were nearly two hundred thousand regulations and restrictions on
Colorado businesses. This is what the Choleraid Chamber of Commerce
is saying. That is the cause for our dropping so
far down and economic growth in this state. And the
Chambers report showed that regulations of businesses grew by seven
percent in just three years from twenty twenty to twenty
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twenty three. Now, I'm a small business owner, and when
I look at this, I understand why we are going down,
why this is not a good climate for businesses. And
then when we go on and we attack some of
our primary industries being so incredibly challenging on our economic industry,
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we've been I've seen in our energy industry we have
been when the juggernauts and energy. That's one of them,
tourism making things so high priced. We've got to really
watch the legislature next session because they were trying to
increase taxes on a lot of short term rental properties,
which is a huge portion for Colorado. So anyway you
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look at it, that's the failing report card for where
the state is going. But here's the good news. I
promise you good news. I really believe we can turn
Colorado around. As long as we make sure that Tabor,
the Taxpayer Bill of Rights, stays in place, we will
become We will we will stop from descending fully into
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the area of California. And we are fifty percent unaffiliated voters.
That means we can persuade our neighbors who are driven
by things like safety and economy. We are the ones
that can do that. Well, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
We come back. I'm gonna guess, Laura Carna, we're.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Gonna talk about the way that we can truly protect
our children, something we all care about as well.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Don't go anywhere. I'm Deborah Flora sitting in for Ryan
Shuling
That I am not Ryan schuling.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is Deborah Flora. So happy to be sitting in
for my friend Ryan. I get to join him in
the same studio every Friday at two o'clock as we
talk about the intersection of Hollywood and politics with Christian
Toto as well.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
But really happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And first of all, I hope you had a wonderful
Labor Day weekend. Yeah, the founding of Labor Day Weekend
is a little bit from more the Marxist Manifesto, but
my head is off to everybody who works really hard
and hope that you had a great weekend not working hard.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'll be sitting in for Ryan this coming Thursday and
following Monday as well. I won't be here on Friday
because something important you should know about.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Me is I'm not only a mom. I'm a football mom.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And Friday weekt to go see our son play college
football on the Naia basically a D two level game
he'll be starting, and so excited about that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I got my hat to prove it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm trying to channel my inner Ryan by wearing sports attire,
but not his sports attire because I'm married to a.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Buck guy, So I do have to start out with
huah go Buck.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Guys now ranked number one, and then I'm a huge
fan of the team our son plays for. And then
after that, I'm a Colorado girl. If you don't know,
I grew up here on Lowry Air Force Base.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I always joke and say.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
If you ever forget my name, just remember I'm Senora
de Bora Flora from Aurora.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
There you go. I'm married into that, but good to
be here.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And a lot of what informs me about my love
of this great state is growing up in it, but
growing up in it at a time when things were
a lot more balanced.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
There was a balance under the dome.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
There was balance in our policy, and I always think
that's good. I'm a constitutional conservative, but I believe in balance.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, we're far from that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
We're going to talk about some of what that is impacting,
but I'll start with this announcement that just happened. Our
not being balanced has led to the decision by President
Trump to move Space Force from Colorado Springs to Huntsville, Alabama.
And now I'm using his quote, not mine. He basically
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indicated in the press conference that just happened that part
of the reason was because of the policies that go
on in Colorado. You might feel good, bad, right wrong
about that. I do want to hear from you. Please
text at five seven seven three nine. That's five seven
seven three point nine. I want to hear your thoughts
about that. The move of space Force to Huntsville, Alabama.
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I do know this. It certainly is not going to
help the downward trajectory of the Colorado economy. We will
get to that because we've gone from one of the
most prosperous states to one of the lowest states. In fact,
we went from being ranked fifth, we being Colorado in
the nation for economic.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Growth to forty first. Just think about that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We went from number five Colorado and economic growth to
forty first. I mean the lower ten, top five to
bottom ten in just fifteen years. And by the way,
space Force will be taking with it sixteen hundred jobs,
immediate jobs, and then a lot of other impact and influence.
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You know, and I know Congressman Jeff.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Crank really fought to keep that from happening. But at a.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Certain point in time, there are consequences to this environment
that's been created by the lack of balance in our system.
Now gonna talk about that. We're gonna have a great show,
going to discuss that some other trends. We're gonna have
good news, believe it or not. Yes, we're gonna share
some good news beyond the Ohio State buk guys being
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number one in college football.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That is good news.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
But we're going to talk about other good news as well,
and coming up in the second hour, we're gonna have
a great guest joining me, Laura. She has really spent
so much of her life focusing on things that actually
help keep our students safe. I want to start with
that topic, but I want to frame it this way.
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I am first and foremost a mom, but I remember
growing up in Colorado. I had two family members who
were in Columbine when it happened, really in many ways,
the first of its kind shocking to the world.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And then being a mom whose.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Children were in the Douglas County school district the same
day that the Stem school shooting happened, and good friends
with the Castillos who lost their very brave, courageous son,
Kendrick in that Stem school shooting. I remember getting a
call from our daughter who was in lockdown, and then
two days later they had another alert because there was
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a bomb alert that was going on when they're about
to have a school assembly, and I remember I wanted
to say to our daughter, don't worry, You're safe, but
I stopped midway through.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Because I thought, can I really say that.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, here we are now in the wake of the
Minneapolis school shooting last week, and once again the conversation
about what will actually make our students safe is getting hijacked.
And I don't know about you, but I am really
tired of that, the quick knee jerk reaction to make
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everything about the guns, nothing about the motivation, nothing about
practical things that will keep our children safe. And that's
why coming up at two o'clock excuse me, three o'clock,
I'm going to have Laura Carno join me with Faster Colorado,
and we're going to talk about some practical things that
will actually keep our students safe. One of the number
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one things is being able to have an actual conversation
about what occurred. Once again, Deborah Flora, sitting in for
Ryan Shuling, please text about this really important tomic topic
at five seven, seven thirty nine before I get into
those who don't want us to have this very open,
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unafraid and unapologetic conversation. I want to share the numbers again.
I'm sure you are very aware. Last Wednesday, a twenty
three year old Robert slash Robin Westman. And by the way,
before anyone starts sending me hate as to which name
I am using, Robin Westman has to be Robin in
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twenty twenty and then later right before this, perpetrating this
horrific act said in his manifesto that he knows he's
not a woman.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So I'm going to say Robert just for.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
The conversation, and most of the time I'm going to
say Westman, because a murder of this type does not
deserve a whole lot of sensitivity to how they are
referred to. But anyway, Westman, as we know, last week
to Annunciation Church in Minneapolis, killed two children, seventeen were injured,
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and of those seventeen fourteen were children. So yes, we
need to have a serious conversation about this. What I
find really interesting in the wake of all this is
the covering up. Back in the day before I went
to college and then I had temporary insanity to be
an actress, I was being trained to be an on
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air journalists, broadcast journalists here in kyler Oath KMGH. At
the time it was Channel seven, and I remember when
there was real broadcast journalism. That has pretty much faded
by the wayside. The New York Times said this after
this shooting last Wednesday. They said, quote, the motive is
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a mystery. That's pretty interesting considering Westman, the perpetrator, left
a manifesto, left videos, and they kept claiming the New
York Times, all these experts are insisting that we may
never know the motives of the and they kept emphasizing
the transgender identified mass shooter.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, I think we have a lot of ideas. We
all know that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Scrawled on some of the magazines were wards like for
the children, where's your God killed?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
The manifesto was anti Catholic, anti Christian, anti Semitic, anti Conservative.
It goes on and on and on. But here's one
of the points we're going to get to later. Because
one of the things that Westman wrote in his manifesto
was quote I'm feeling good about.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Nunciation, meaning choosing that as a target.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Why Because he said it seems like a good combo
of easy attack form and devastating tragedy coming up at
three o'clock. We're going to talk about the fact, and
I want you to hear these numbers because we're talking
about real mass shootings, not how it gets obfuscated with
every kind of shooting that has involved a firearm, but
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shootings approximately ninety four to ninety five percent of them
occurring gun free zones, and zero have occurred as of
this date that I'm aware of. Will clarify that with
Laura Carno. In schools where there is an armed professional,
I'm not trying it just an soro, but a staff
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member of some sort who is armed. Okay, let's just
get that clear. Why did Westman choose this school? Saying
I'm feeling good about it because it's a good combo
of easy attack form and devastating tragedy. This person went
on to say, I do it to please myself. I
do it because I am sick, talking about both his
physical and mental health, and went on and on. I'm
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not going to glorify anything by sharing too much more
of what Westman said, But the important thing is this,
if anyone tries to shut you down from actually talking
about the motives. Motives matter, I want to hear from
you five seven seven three nine. Do you think the
motive matters as much as the weapon that was used?
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Because by the way, they're banning knives in UK now
because they've got such strong gun laws, But that doesn't
stop those with a motive. But I want to share
where we are in those who want to stop down,
stop this actual inquiry, and we need to have this inquiry.
When I was on with Ryan on Friday, if you're
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just tuning in, Deborah Flora sitting in for Ryan.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Shuling, he has what he calls the full of the week.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And my award had to go to Jensaki for this
comment that she shared when she was talking about what
she thought was pre eminently important after this shooting, which
was not getting to the bottom of it, it was
making sure certain information did not get out.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Zach, why don't we play that God?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
There has already been sort of some effort, which I
think is so sick and disgusting to weaponize some of
the details, even if we we don't know a lot
at this point in time, and obviously the law enforcement
in your city have been keeping people abreast, including details
about the individual possibly being trands about the individual possibly
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having negative things to say about Trump about some things
that have been on the weapons.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
A lot of this is just very early reporting. What
do you do as a leader of your city to
prevent details from being weaponized and using this to blame
something other than the guns.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Okay, let's just be really clear.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
This person was a white house over the news that
was going on under the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This is somebody who is supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
For journalism, and what was Jen Saki's pre eminent concern
to make sure to prevent certain details that would take
the focus away from the guns. Well, that's troubling because
reality is, we need to know. This is a disturbing pattern.
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You know what, here's the thing that gets me most
of all. Maybe you do think it is the guns.
But let's come together and have a real conversation instead
of being shut down and instead of having a sensitivity
of saying that the American people are.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Either too buffoon is to actually.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Handle the details or really don't have a right to
know what the motive might be.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know, So let's look.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
At this, by the way, because it doesn't matter what
weapon is chosen, the motive is important to know. Here's
something I want to give a shout out to an
actual media source, which is The Tennessee Star.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
The Tennessee Star.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
After the March twenty twenty three Covenant School shooting in Nashville, Tennessee. Yes,
once again, I'm going to share an inconvenient detail. This
was the shooter was Audrey quote Aiden Hill, identified as
a transgender male. I'm not saying that's the cause, but
I'm not going to obfuscate what is actually a fact.
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It took them a year to get the manifesto released
from that murderer, but they did their job. And when
The Tennessee Star finally released that a year after the shooting,
here's what they said why they did it. They said,
it helped us inform the public about the underlying reasons
for this heinous attack, and we have helped drive the
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public discussion of what should be done to prevent such
acts of violence in the future, and documented a massive
failure of the mental health system. There's anyone listening that
doesn't believe that mental health is an issue with this
rising trend of shootings, actually to say mass killings, because
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it doesn't matter whether it's shooting or otherwise. People have
been driving trucks through crowds. They've been doing naive attacks.
I mean, it's whatever the weapon is chosen. As we
saw on Boulder it was a Molotov cocktail. I want
to know if anyone does not think the motive is
a key detail, because that has to be what we
begin to look at.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But let's look at some of this.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Andy nomany of you know him, no pun intended there.
He's been boldly as a member of the LGB community
speaking out about what he sees as a very unprecedented
rise in the last four years of these type of
attacks coming from those that are in the transgender or
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non binary community. Now, once again, let me say this,
because people love to jump an attack. I am not
saying there's a direct correlation. I am saying that it
is okay for us to ask and look.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
At the details. So let's just look at this.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
By the way, a lot of people, by the way,
you'll look online and they'll say, oh, this is a
This doesn't really matter because over the last twenty years,
it's a small number. And then they include, you know,
shootings like in the streets of Chicago that are crime related.
But we're time at the last four or five years
as this trend towards the full embracing and a larger number.
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This is not a disputiful fact of people transitioning have occurred.
March twenty twenty three the Covenant School shooting in Nashville, Tennessee.
In the manifesto that was finally released, it was filled
with hatred towards people of faith, very much all about
a gender ideology. And that person said, I'm ready. I
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hope my victims aren't. I hope I have a high
death count. What's another similar similarity, By the way, the
shooting took place in a gun free zone in a school.
November nineteen, twenty twenty two, Club Q and Colorado Springs
Anderson Lely Aldrich five killed and forty others injured.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And that was a horrendous attack.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
May seventh, twenty nine, the Stem shooting here in Highlands
Ranch Kendra Castillo.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I know his parents well. He bravely gave his life.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
The trans identified female teen Alec McKenny or male teen
Alec McKenny, transmel student gets very hard to go through
the facts said the motive was because they were going
after those who they considered to be against transgenderism and
another one that nobody looks at. September twenty, twenty eighteen,
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right out right aid warehouse in Maryland, twenty six year
old killed three people and injured three others, identifying their
transgender status as part of their motivation.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Now right wrong? Who knows, But the reality is it's
something that we need to be able to talk about
when we come back. I want to hear from you.
Do you think there's a correlation.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Do you think it's something we should look at, because
I'm going to bring us some other statistics and I
want to hear from you. Please text into five seven
seven three nine five seven seven three nine. Deborah Flora
sitting in for Ryan Shuling. Welcome back to the Ryan
Sholing Show. This is Deborah Flora sitting in for Ryan.
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Hope you are having a great day, so appreciate your
being a part of the conversation.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Want to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Text Ryan at the beginning of your comment to five
seven seven three nine. That's five seven seven three nine. Well,
we're daring to have the conversation that people like Jen
Saki are saying that we should not about really the
motives behind some of these shootings that we're hearing some
of these disturbing trends, things that we need to be
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able to discuss as a free society. I want to
hear from you if you agree with me, and if
you don't five seven seven three nine, make sure you
start with the word Ryan, so I know it's for
this show even though I'm not Ryan, but that's okay,
I'll still get your comment. I just want to wind
this portion up because we've talked about how after the
Covenant shooting that the manifesto that was based predominantly on
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the perpetrator, the murderer, talking about their hatred people of faith.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
This was their school that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
They had gone to and definitely motivated a lot by
their transgender identification. Same with the manifesto that was a
part of what happened in Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And I just want to share a couple of.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Things, and I want to say this in sympathy, by
the way, for anyone who identifies as transgender. I've witnessed
first hand how there are so many people online that
feed into this frenzy of what Andy No, who describes
it well calls a promotion of violence with the transgender community.
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That does not mean that everyone that is in that
community is violent, but there is a targeting of that community,
and it's actually they refer to what they're being told
as transgenocide. So if you tell someone enough times that
everyone is out to get them, they are going to
be murdered, They're going to be killed.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
What happens this sort of thing can be a result
of it. You add with that.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
The promotion of violence across the US. There are many
sites now on social media. Many of us don't know
about them because we don't visit them where they're actually
called trantifa. And I once again not saying this is
across the board, it's you know, I'm being very careful
about this because I want to be able to speak freely.
But when we have segments of our population there are
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being radicalized by information that is not true, they're definitely
being made to turn and see the enemy as someone
that they better strike out against before they get struck at.
And obviously a lot of these posts have in them
anti Semitism and Christian, anti Catholic, etc. And I just
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want to say, from my own personal experience, I had
the privilege to lead a couple of the rallies and
from the Supreme Court steps when certain cases were being
argued within those Hallett Halls with the highest court of
the land, and of the times I had been there,
no matter what the issue is, the greatest violence that
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we faced was when there were transgender activists that overran
our group, were screaming in people's ears, were trying to
rush the sands. And then when an Orthodox rabbi exited
the area where we were doing the press conference, he
was surrounded by these violent, these radicalized folks. I think
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they had to sign saying Trantifa.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And they circled this.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Rabbi and then you can see it on video and
started screaming at him, calling him a Nazi. Look, if
you're a person of goodwill, we've got to call this
out everywhere that we see it, so we can't be
afraid to talk about it. We can't be afraid to
address it, and I think it is an important thing
to do.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I'm going to switch gears here because there's some other
things that I want to talk about and so much
to cover. But where is his time with some of
the other top headlines, Because right now, in the wake
of what happened in Minnesota, there are so many different
places where blame is being thrown even as we're being
lectured to to not in any way talk about the
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manifestos that the shooter and the one in Covenant School
had out there that had a lot to do with
their gender ideology. We're not supposed to talk about that,
but we are supposed to blame Christians. We've heard the
mayor of Minneapolis talk about how, you know, how shouldn't
be praying, no praying, even as he's talking about the
kids who were praying as they were murdered or shot.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
The attack on guns.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well, here's what I want to switch gears, because there's
another headline that we've all seen. If it was about
the guns, if gun control was the answer, then let's
just be really clear, Chicago would be the safest city
really on the planet, definitely in the United States of America,
some of the strongest gun laws, as many of us know.
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Right now, it's a center of a lot of national
attention because Trump is talking about using the National Guard
in Chicago because of the high crime rate.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Now, I haven't really taken a.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Deep dive into the constitutionality about that, but I do
know in DC I'm a supporter of it because that
is our nation's capital. That is a federal city that
is supposed to be a city of the seat of
the federal government. Whether or not that's his role, it
brings up a bigger issue this weekend. I hope you
had a safe and wonderful Labor Day weekend, because in
Chicago that a spike in violence over Labor Day weekend.
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And according to Chicago Police Department, over Labor Day weekend,
at least thirty five.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
People were shot in the city.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Thirty five people over one weekend, and for thirteen consecutive years,
Chicago has had the most murders of any US city,
by the way, double the murder rate of Islamabad, nearly
fifteen times more than Delhi. That is not something that
you were aiming for. So let's just honestly have a
clear conversation. When you have extreme laws on the Second
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Amendment prohibiting law abiding citizens from caring, who ends up caring. Well,
we can see in Chicago it hasn't solved the issue
because it's usually the criminals that are caring. Now, the
only thing more shocking than these statistics in Chicago is
this statistic. You may or may not know this, but
Colorado by some statistics, by some ratings, is actually worse.
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And I say this not as something where I'm happy
to kind of throw the you know whatever, the vegetables
at a policy.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
It's because it makes me very sad.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I remember growing up in Colorado so enjoying going to
the sixteenth stringt Mall, feeling like it's such a wonderful place,
well of a safe environment where you could go and
you could be there right now as a mom our
kids are in their early twenties, but we are very
careful about when and where they go. But here's the statistic.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
This was from twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Colorado had the highest violent crime rate among the twenty
two most populous states, more.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Than Illinois that has Chicago in it.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
The newest report has Colorado's third highest crime rate overall.
I just want to talk about this because there are
consequences to elections, there are consequences to policies. We're going
to be coming up on twenty twenty six, and there
are very few jobs that government is actually supposed to do. So,
if you haven't heard me say this before, here's my
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philosophy on governance and America. I believe that America is
that revolutionary idea once pretty much in all of human history,
that every individual has intrinsic value their individual therefore individual
liberty and government has only one job to protect the
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rights and the safety of its citizens.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's pretty much it.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So how are we doing Colorado number three in crime rate? Overall?
The other thing that we're going to switch into before
and you know we're about to head to a break,
but I want to share this too, Colorado's economy. And
by the way, we have a you know, our kids
are twenty and twenty one, so we have young adults
who are facing that same pressure that almost every gen
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Zer is now more less optimistic, more pessimistic than the
previous generation.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
In economy, here's breaking.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
News as we just get out of a special session
that our state legislator has worked us into and Governor
Polis and the spending of our state has worked us
into this deficit.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
The Colorado economy. We have fallen from economic growth.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
We were fifth in the nation to forty first and
just fifteen years, just fifteen years. When we come back
and talk about some of the things that had been
driving that. But if you miss the very beginning of
the show, well we just lost sixteen hundred more jobs
because Space Force is.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Being moved to Alabama.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Now we know that right now under the dome and
under the governor's mansions roof. They like to blame the
current president for all of these woes, but guess what
Colorad' is hitting in the wrong direction because of the
policies within our own state. Well, there are other states
that are absolutely blossoming. One example, by the way, I'm
(26:54):
happy about this because we're gonna be driving to go
watch our son play football this weekend. But Labor Day
weekend had the lowest gas prices since twenty twenty. So no,
you can't blame everything, by the way, on the federal
government when it comes to what's happening in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
We went from fifth to forty first time. To turn
it around. We're going to talk about with some of
those driving factors when we get back, and I want
to hear from you. Cross.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Got some good news, by the way, so be sure
to text in text in Ryan at five seven, seven
thirty nine. I'm Deborah Flora sitting in for Ryan shuling
a wonderful Labor Day weekend. It really felt like the
kickoff of fall because we're kind of a football family.
(27:41):
So we watched football. We got to see the Buck.
Guys do great. This weekend, I'm gonna get to go
and go with my husband and watch our son play football.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
He's going to be starting as a wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
So you know, anyway, I just hope you're enjoying that
change of season. It is a great time of year.
So that's a good news. But guys, number one, our
son's playing football. That's all good news. I've got some
other good news I'm going to share as well. But
I want to I want to wind up with some
of these things that we're talking about because as we
start looking to roll into twenty twenty six, there's going
(28:15):
to be a lot of big decisions that we're all
going to have to make. And when you look at
the basic role of government, Colorado is not going in
the right direction. You know, we talked about Chicago, and
by the way, even more shootings were reported over the
weekend in Chicago. Now it's up to fifty eight shootings
(28:36):
just over Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Eight fatalities. Can you imagine.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But here's what's even more shocking is I just shared
Colorado the twenty twenty three FBI report had Colorado as
highest and violent crime amongst the twenty two most populous states,
meaning we are higher in violent crime than Illinois that
has Chicago, or New York that has New York City.
(29:04):
So by that marker heading in the wrong direction, as
we know, we've been up there. When it comes to car,
thept etc. Then we share a time on the economy
because even economically, and these.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Are the basic roles.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Of government, protecting the safety the infrastructure, always us look
at our roads, particularly if you're in one of the
rural areas, to know that that's not being done very
well either with all of our taxpayer dollars, but then
creating an environment in which the backbone of the economy,
which are usually small business owners who are the largest
(29:41):
creator of jobs. The government doesn't create jobs, by the way,
just little hashtag government is not a job creator. They
can only add to the size and bloat of government.
But what's going on in Colorado to make us drop
in economic growth from fifth in the nation.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
To forty first in just fifty years?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
By the way, when Governor Polis runs for president, these
are the things he needs to answer for because the
only thing that has kept us from really going even
further down. Is the fact that we have tabor that
keeps them from spending all of the taxpayer dollars without
asking for our permission. But we have dropped so much,
(30:21):
and the Chlorid Chamber of Commerce has report telling us
why this has happened. Colorado ranks six. That sounds good, right,
but six in the nation for regulation on business. Now,
when you regulate something, when you tax something, you get.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Less of it.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
There were nearly two hundred thousand regulations and restrictions on
Colorado businesses. This is what the Choleraid Chamber of Commerce
is saying. That is the cause for our dropping so
far down and economic growth in this state. And the
Chambers report showed that regulations of businesses grew by seven
percent in just three years from twenty twenty to twenty
(31:03):
twenty three. Now, I'm a small business owner, and when
I look at this, I understand why we are going down,
why this is not a good climate for businesses. And
then when we go on and we attack some of
our primary industries being so incredibly challenging on our economic industry,
(31:25):
we've been I've seen in our energy industry we have
been when the juggernauts and energy. That's one of them,
tourism making things so high priced. We've got to really
watch the legislature next session because they were trying to
increase taxes on a lot of short term rental properties,
which is a huge portion for Colorado. So anyway you
(31:45):
look at it, that's the failing report card for where
the state is going. But here's the good news. I
promise you good news. I really believe we can turn
Colorado around. As long as we make sure that Tabor,
the Taxpayer Bill of Rights, stays in place, we will
become We will we will stop from descending fully into
(32:07):
the area of California. And we are fifty percent unaffiliated voters.
That means we can persuade our neighbors who are driven
by things like safety and economy. We are the ones
that can do that. Well, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
We come back. I'm gonna guess, Laura Carna, we're.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Gonna talk about the way that we can truly protect
our children, something we all care about as well.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Don't go anywhere. I'm Deborah Flora sitting in for Ryan
Shuling
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