May 23, 2025 • 36 mins
Weekly segment featuring Deborah Flora and Christian Toto in-studio with a conservative eye on the entertainment industry, focusing on a culture shift away from woke ideology in music, film, and television.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can CNN thread the needle?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
How do you pivot from excitedly promoting your anchor's book
to somberly and respectfully promoting your anchor's book's health was.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Very much in the news even before the cancer diagnosis
was announced on Sunday. That's because of a new book
by CNN Jake Tapper.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
This was already going to be a tough week and
just makes it much harder. And that is a reference
to the fact that our colleague Jake Capper and Alex
Thompson have a book that's set to publish on Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
This very tough news, this very challenging news, and at
the same time, the backdrop of our college Jake Tapper's
book with Alex Thompson coming out this week.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
It's so hard, it's such as a difficult time, so
unfathomable in terms of the pain this family must be feeling.
And yet if you act now.
Speaker 7 (01:01):
And you use the code backslash tap that book you
will obviously not available for some reason in Tennessee.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
But the point is.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Forgetting about the fact how weird it is that the
News is selling you a book about news they should
have told you was news a year ago.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
For free.
Speaker 8 (01:41):
It's just fun, John Stewart, The Daily Show having fun
at the expense of Jake Tapper and CNN. We're on
the right side of Hollywood, Deborah Floor in studio along
with Christian Toto and Toto. You brought this to my
attention because there seems to be a circular firing squad
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everybody on the left pointing the finger and everybody else
for the lack of coverage on Biden's de climb. But
I don't remember John Stuart getting it right either.
Speaker 9 (02:13):
He's a fraud. He's just a fraud. He's an absolute fraud.
He's covering himself and by the way, making fun of
CNN for being overly aggressive in promoting one of their
books by one of their reporters. It's low hanging fruit.
It's the easiest thing to do. It's certainly mockable, for sure.
He did a nice shot with it, but it really
is complete and utter deflection. John Stuart, where were you?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Where were you?
Speaker 9 (02:37):
You were silent? You're the truth teller, you're the satirist.
You're supposed the whole people accountable. He did nothing of
the kind. When he first came back to the show,
he talked about the Biden Trump matchup again, and he
was a little spicy toward Biden, admitting he wasn't quite
what he used to be, and he got real blowback
from his base, and he shut that down. No more
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talk about that, no more honesty, no more truth to power.
He just went under his bunker. And that's why he's
a fraud. They're all frauds. There's so much to say
about this, but let's zero in on John Stewart not
doing his job.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
Well, that was The Daily Show, and I've got a
little bit more along those lines from John Stewart's podcast
called The Weekly Show.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But first, Deborah Floor, your thoughts.
Speaker 10 (03:21):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think what's so interesting is
you pull a lot of people and they say, where
do they get their news. It's John Stewart, it's Stephen Colbert,
and they love to teut this idea that they are
somehow disseminators of truth on the edge, raw and all
that until they now are complicit with everyone else.
Speaker 11 (03:40):
So I do think it's a great.
Speaker 10 (03:41):
Comment that, yes, CNN is acting like this is now
news to sell a book on what they should have
been reporting before.
Speaker 11 (03:47):
I think that's accurate.
Speaker 10 (03:49):
But my goodness, look in the mirror, because there was
nothing from John Stewart, and now he's trying to even
take attack more than no action. I'm just like a
late night talk show host. And Stephen Colbert had both
acted and really encourage it.
Speaker 9 (04:04):
I did that.
Speaker 10 (04:04):
They are a news source, can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, this is what they do.
Speaker 9 (04:08):
It's clown nose on clown nos on. I did not
invent that. Bend Shapiro did he was he this?
Speaker 8 (04:14):
Well, he's the one that constantly refers to what Deever
is just talking about as the whole You go back
about twenty years or so and John Stewart went on
and torched Crossfire really I think led to its demise
and cancellation when he was calling out Tucker Carlson, Paul Begala,
and he'said, my show follows crank y Anchor's puppets. Both
(04:34):
take me seriously until he wants you to take him seriously. Yeah,
and then you should take him seriously.
Speaker 9 (04:38):
Quite the dance.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
Well, there are three John's with no h's collaborating on
this podcast. You had John Stewart, who you hear from
in a moment, John Favreau, who you won't hear from
former speechwriter for Obama. The Obama Bros. They're kind of called.
They're these millennials who worked in the Obama administration, wrote
speeches for him, and they host Pod Save America, one
of the top podcasts in America, certainly for those who
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reside on the left politically. Here's John love It also
without an age from Pod Save America claiming their podcast
was honest about Biden's decline.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But there's some caveats.
Speaker 12 (05:10):
I've been reflecting on this too, about you know, because
we went to the White House and saw Joe Biden,
who had just come back from a trip, and he
was I don't think it wasn't as as I think
egregious is what you hear in the audio around her
report was April, and he was rambling and he was
hard to follow, and he repeated a story.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
But then we were assured.
Speaker 12 (05:31):
By people around him that he was just exhausted. And
then we were at the fundraiser, obviously, the famous Clooney fundraiser,
and you know, I think people inside maybe weren't being
honest with themselves about what they were seeing. But I know,
if like from my own point of view, part of
What was a challenge was because Joe Biden seemed so
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hell bent on staying in right. I never wanted to
be dishonest about what I felt we were seeing and
by the way we were and about talking about Joe
Biden not doing enough to overcome the questions around his
age long before he dropped out, like we were talking
about it. We were trying to be honest about it, were.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You, Deborah? Here's my big problem with it. I always
work on.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
Things in terms of like an algebraic equation, the constants
of the variables.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
The constant that you could.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
Sub out in this equation would be okay, John love it,
Trump hater. If we sub in Trump for Biden, and
Trump's staff assured you behind closed doors, he's a dynamo.
There's nothing to see here. He's just exhausted. Would he
have taken Trump's staff for his word for it?
Speaker 11 (06:34):
You know, this is such It's such a sad state.
Speaker 10 (06:38):
Of talking about media and what should be one of
the watchdogs on government. If we go back to all
the presidents men, the thought that either one of those
investigative journalists would have just taken the word of the
Nixon administration for the.
Speaker 11 (06:53):
No take that word for it. It was just the plumbers, right,
I mean.
Speaker 10 (06:57):
Because that's hey, that's what we do because they told
us this.
Speaker 13 (07:00):
It is, it is.
Speaker 11 (07:02):
It is just like the blind calling, you know.
Speaker 10 (07:05):
I mean, I'm going to get you know, attached for
UNPC that I'm talking about anyone that is sightless. But
you know what I mean, they're all accusing one another
instead of saying, I have to say, this is the
demise of journalism. And let's just realize it. We didn't
ask questions, we did not push, We just took it
because you know what, hey, we were all on the
same team and just didn't want the other guy to win.
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And back to John Stewart, in that long comedic thing
that he had and he's got good comedic timing, he
actually said it was a bad cover up because we
all knew. He actually said that, you know what, And
then for anyone else that is in the situation to
say that they somehow just took the word of the
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Biden handlers who are completely vested in it, it is
an abdication of every single aspect of what they are
supposed to do. And yes, they would not have done
that for Trump, and they would have done that for Nixon.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
Here's John Stewart following up on Deborah's point here, which
is we could all see it. I just wasn't going
to help with the observation of what was going on
with Biden.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Here's John Stuart. Yeah, everybody talks about that.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
This all began after the debate, but I think everybody
very clearly was you know, polls were showing a year
before that people felt that he was not in a
position to run for reelection. People were talking about it
before then. The debate was kind of the uh, we're
all worried about, you know, a hurricane event, and then
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the hurricane hit, but people were talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
People were talking about it. Christian he wasn't. He wasn't.
Speaker 9 (08:40):
I mean, it funlt like he had the Wigley platform.
And it's not like it's his job to talk about
significant events in the political realm. That's not his gig.
I mean, he's a juggler, right, does he do penamine?
I forget what his job is. It's certainly not being
a political comedian, because he failed miserably at that. And
you know, John Stewart is in the way, the dean
of this whole institution in this whole Late Night obviously,
(09:01):
Johnny Carson, there's Leno. You know, you go on anstey ballen.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But they did.
Speaker 9 (09:06):
This is the politicization of this. He was the he
was the starter's pistol, and he failed, and he was
the one guy who listened. Colbert and Kimmel will almost
never lean to the right in their comedy, almost never grudgingly,
half heartedly. Stewart once in the Blue Moon does that.
And this was his moment.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And he failed.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
And by the way, legacy media is dying and will die.
And this was their one last gasp to say breaks on.
Oh my goodness, you have lost the trust. This is
a colossal mistake. We will do better, and it starts
today and they're doing nothing of the kind. They're actually
tripling down.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
And that's why I'll quibble with one little detail here
as we go to Deborah on I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I know, how dare I?
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Because I don't think they got it wrong. I think
it was willful and intentional. They wanted to get it
wrong and love it accidentally, maybe on purpose, I don't know.
Get us away the game right here. Here's lie and
I'll have dever comm on the other side.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But I think the.
Speaker 12 (10:03):
Point I was going to make about just my own
perspective on it was I remember feeling I want to
talk about this as a huge liability. I want to
talk about this as something Joe Biden can overcome. But
I'm not going to go so far as to say
I think Joe Biden must drop out he is too
old to be president a because I didn't know exactly
what was going on behind the scenes, but b if.
Speaker 14 (10:23):
Joe Biden is the candidate, I wanted to win because
I care about the country and I can't and I
don't want to be somebody suddenly having the words we're
saying taken out of context and all of a sudden
part of the case against Joe Biden from the right
that would use any any person criticizing Joe Biden from
the left as a weapon against him. So it was
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about being honest about Joe Biden's age as a liability
while knowing that if he is the nomin knee. I
want to be clear that I thought it was important
to make sure we did everything we could to reelect it.
Speaker 8 (10:55):
It was about being honest about what we saw, but
we had to be dishonest in order to ensure that
Trump didn't win.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
It is shocking to me. I think they actually believe this.
First of all, the podcast is Pod Saves America. Okay, now,
now we can just take quival with that, but they
really believe that their job is to stand up for
the good of America.
Speaker 11 (11:14):
How about the truth?
Speaker 10 (11:16):
I mean, even John Stewart said, well, polls showed this.
You don't report these things based on poles. Oh, people
are catching on to this, so let's talk about it.
How about just sharing the truth. If you really love
this country and you call yourself anywhere in the media,
your job is to make the citizens of this country
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aware of the truth so that they can make decisions
to be a safeguard against that whatever power it is.
Speaker 11 (11:44):
I mean, I'd want them to.
Speaker 10 (11:45):
Report on this if Donald Trump was not mentally capable
of doing the job, I would want Fox News to
have done that or anyone else, because you know, our
founding father said the key to a free republic is
a well edged cad citizenry.
Speaker 11 (12:01):
The media no longer does that.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
They tell people what they want to get their chosen outcome,
and they've forgotten what the very job of the media.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Is, yeah to reflect on that paradigm, even though it
doesn't follow logic, because not the entire mainstream media is
of our orientation politically. However, let's just say if Fox
News had carried forth a narrative and lied to me,
you Christian, about Trump's condition, and then later it was
revealed that we should have known, or if you just
believe your lying eyes, you would know. I would feel duped,
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I would feel stupid, I would feel insulted, and I
would not watch Fox News anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But these people.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Continue, because of their Trump derangement syndrome, to be addicted
to the hit of the Orange Man is bad no
matter what. And so they're going to continue to watch
Rachel Mattout, They're going to continue to listen to Pod
Save America.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
They're going to continue to watch John Stewart.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Now, I want to shift gears just for a moment,
because this follows up on something I believe we were
talking about either last week or the week before, and
that was Bruce Springsteen overseas criticizing the Trump administration. Easy
to do when we ripped him rightfully. Well, Eddie Vetter
is joining the conversation. Now, he has entered the chat,
and he said this in a performance this past week.
Speaker 13 (13:12):
When I hear that Chris Racing brings up issues and
makes his thoughts, you know, and uses.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
His microphone to speak for those.
Speaker 13 (13:26):
Who don't have a voice, sometimes you are not a never.
Speaker 15 (13:32):
I appreciate you listen, and I bring it up because
the response to all that and him using the microphone,
the response had nothing to do with the issues.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
We didn't talk about one of those issues, didn't have a.
Speaker 15 (13:50):
Conversation about one of those issues, didn't debate any one
of those issues.
Speaker 13 (13:57):
All that we heard were personal hacks and dress that.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
Nobody else should even try to.
Speaker 13 (14:04):
Use their microphone or use their voice in public.
Speaker 15 (14:09):
Or they will be shut down.
Speaker 16 (14:14):
Not that is not allowed in this.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Country that we call America.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
In a.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Part of three, free is open discussion.
Speaker 13 (14:31):
Part of democracy is healthy public discord.
Speaker 17 (14:35):
Sure, the name is Sylvanus Bruce has always been as
pro American with his values of freedom and liberty, and
his justice.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Has always remained intact.
Speaker 13 (14:51):
And I'm saying that that's now. I'm saying that to
be sure that this freedom is speaking will still exist
in another year where when we come back to.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
This microphone, now, the crowd was channing Bruce, not booing there.
But I remember distinctly Billy Joel was just announced that
he's suffering from a brain disorders, got a cancel his
entire tour. But I saw him at Course Field thanks
to Alex out there by the way, and he kind
of funt. This is kind of sad in retrospect because
maybe this was the beginning of something serious. But he
was joking about it on stage. Billy Joel, he kind
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of fumbled with his music. He goes, ah, it's kind
of like Joe Biden. Everybody's kind of laughing in the crowd,
and then he caught himself, well, Trump too, and he
kind of followed with that, but he led with Joe
Biden's not that great now. Eddie Vedda here covering for
Bruce Springsteen. I guess an homage to a legend. But
mister Toto, what do you make of what Eddie Vedder
had to say?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
There?
Speaker 9 (15:42):
He's another fraud? Where was he during cancel culture? Where
was he during the woke attacks on speech? Where was
he during the Twitter files? Where was he when people
had theories about COVID, who was shut down, slammed, attacked
and silenced? Where was he nowhere? Fake fraud phony. I
want to curse so bad, Lahoya these guys. I covered
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this seven days a week. This is such horse MANU
where he is an absolute phony, fraud. He only cares
when his side is potentially silenced. And but by the way,
he's not being silenced. Bruce Springsteen was contributing to the
campaign to Kamala Harris, and some shady things were going
on here. That's what Trump's referencing. He's not trying to
shut down Trump. These guys are just full of it.
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They're full of it. They're absolute frauds. How dare they
They're just complete phonies. I have zero respect face people.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
And maybe even worse than that, Deborah is we know
that their sellouts to the Trump point was Beyonce was
paid to show.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And didn't even sing a note. It was off the stage.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
Yeah, it is interesting, and I love Christian's passionate about
this because I he worked in Hollywood, but my husband
and I where were the they when people were being
told that if you even said in Hollywood, I kind
of like America, you would get a look and you
would suddenly be be banned. Where was this standing up
for all of the great artists such as James Woods
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or John Ratzenberger or I mean, the list goes on
and on and on.
Speaker 11 (17:12):
And I remember John.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
Vo used to say to us, look, I can say
what I say. And his daring thing was even saying
that he stood up for Israel. But that was rock
in the boat in Hollywood, and he would tell everyone
else in this group, the underground group of conservatives, wo
would say, but don't you do it, or you'll never
work in this town again.
Speaker 11 (17:29):
And that's true.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
So to Christian's point, I think what's interesting is those
on the right of center are the classic liberals. What
is classic liberalism. Classic liberalism is I believe in freedom.
Therefore I believe in our right to disagree. I will
not cancel you because you have a different opinion. Let's
all come together in the public score and discuss it.
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That is classic liberalism. What we're seeing from people like
Eddie Vedder and Bruce Springsteen is a facade. What they
really have, which is quite the opposite. It is not
for free speech, It is not for free expression.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
There you go, And where was he on college campuses
where people have been chased away? Yes, Riley Gaines had
a height in a closet although I should be physically
attacked Ben Shapiro and culture. So many conservative speakers have
been shouted down, physically attacked, told to stay silent. Where
was he and.
Speaker 11 (18:23):
Where are they? Right now?
Speaker 10 (18:23):
By the way, talking about the Israeli couple that was
shot right in front of the Jewish museum in our
nation's capital by someone who did it because they were Jewish.
If they're looking for causes, isn't this to me is
the saddest thing about it all. There is passion on
that side, there is talent on that side, and if
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they're looking for righteous causes, if they want to be
part of the new civil rights movement, there's plenty of
real injustices to stand.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
Up against Deborah Flora Christian total right side of Hollywood.
When we come back our nominees for our Friday Fool
of the Week and Boiler Alert, two of them are
authors co authors of the same book.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
You know who they are.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
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Speaker 9 (20:26):
You don't think it's an infringement on the First Amendment?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 18 (20:29):
Well, look, obviously you have to if you have an employer.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
There's things you can say and can't.
Speaker 18 (20:33):
Say at work, right, I mean this is not like
you know, with your friends in your house at all, right, right,
I mean that's not against a lot. When you go
to work, you cannot call your African American colleague the
N word. I mean that that is, you know, that
is a civil rights violation. So of course this is
a great diverse state. You may have to work with
somebody who's Trensender, somebody, you may have to work with
somebody who who's African Americans like you just have to
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respect whoever you work with. You you know, and you you
all try to get along, and that is in the
professional side of things, how we all get together as
a state. And I would add this goes always.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
If you have a adout.
Speaker 18 (21:06):
Christian who you work with, you have to respect that
you never mocked their Christianity, You never mocked their faith
at work again in your own home. So you know,
if you're with friends and you can argue about Christianity
or transgender and you can get meaning and vicious and
there's no violation of law, totally free speech. But when
you're at work, absolutely there are expectations of what you
do at work and treat everybody civilly. This bill doesn't
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too much about that, but that was already the law
in Colorado.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Governor Jared Poulis and why he signed thirteen twelve into
law joining ros Komenski earlier this week. And I chose
this clip because he sets up a false dichotomy between
you're either at home doing your own thing.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Christian and I kicking it with a couple of.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Brews saying whatever we want, or you're in the workplace
and well, you've got to respect you know, you're co workers,
and therefore there could be a civil rights violation if
you say the wrong thing and word, etc.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Trans coworkers.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
What about everywhere else we go in Colorado, Christian. That
could be a ballgame, that could be the supermarket, that
could be a restaurant. It says, if Jared Poulis lives
a life, he goes to work, punches in, and he
goes home. But nowhere in between what happens when you're
in a public setting, let's say like Masterpiece Cake Shop
with Jack Phillips.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
Yeah, he's not thinking it through. I don't think he
wants to think it through. And I'm sure there have
been plenty of Christians who have been insulted in the
workplace without any repercussions, So not giving him high score
in this I think. I think the fool slate has
started strong, but I fear it's going to get stronger.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Look never how about Jared Poulos as a lead offer.
Speaker 10 (22:35):
You know, I just think about the fact that Jesus
Christ and I separate that out because for myself as
a Christian, that is a term of great respect. Is
used as a whear word constantly everywhere you go. You know,
people are asking the Almighty to damn someone to hell
all the time, everywhere you go, and you don't see
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Christians saying, oh, you can't do that, because.
Speaker 11 (22:58):
That's using my faith.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Now, I oftentimes will say to somebody, you know, by
the way, I am a believer, that is something that
I'm not comfortable with. But I don't go to the
legislation say I want you to sue them and make
it illegal to do that, because that is the point
of free speech if you cannot actually have the ability
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to call out a conversation that is reprehensible. One of
the best things that happened in defeating the horrors of
the KKK was let him talk, and then everybody says,
this is terrible, but I thought was something was interesting
in that quote. Jared Paula said, you can go home
and be as mean and as vicious as you want.
He equated free speech with being mean ambitious. How about
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you have a respectful conversation, say I disagree with you.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
I have a trans listener named Kimberly who's loyal to
this program.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I'm very thankful for.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
I made a tremendous point, which is you don't have
a right to have your feelings.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Not be hurt exactly. Yeah, that's for freedom of speech.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
Like you said, people will indict themselves clan members, racists,
they'll be expelled from polite society, but you will allow
them to speak in the public square, to out themselves
and not chase them into the shadows. And this whole
debate again around Jared Poulis and him signing thirteen twelve.
It's not over yet. It's being fought in the court.
So he's our first nominee for our Friday Fool the Week.
The next one very deserving. He walked upon the seashore,
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I could just stop there. Here's James Comy almost Colbert,
what happened?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
He walked on the beach and you saw this on
the beach.
Speaker 16 (24:31):
Yeah, My wife and I, Patrece, were walking on the
beach and saw those numbers in shells on the beach.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You didn't do this. Somebody else did that. Yeah, somebody
else did it.
Speaker 16 (24:39):
We were on a walk preparing for this week roll
out of my book.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yep.
Speaker 16 (24:42):
She looked at it and said, why'd someone put their
address in the sands?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
All right? And we stood at it trying.
Speaker 16 (24:48):
To figure looked at it trying to figure out what
it was. And she'd long been a server in restaurants,
and she said, you know what I think it is.
I think it's a reference to restaurants when you had
eighty six something in a restaurant.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
It's off the menu. Yeah, I said not.
Speaker 14 (24:59):
I remember.
Speaker 16 (24:59):
I was like, kid, you'd say eighty six to get
out of a place.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
This place stinks, So it's eighty six. I was a bartender.
Speaker 19 (25:04):
You would eighty six a customer if they were getting drunk, like,
that's eighty six.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
On this like give him a low proof alcohol or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (25:11):
And so I said, I think it's a clever political
message and she said you should take a picture of it.
I said sure, and then she said you should instagram
that and boom, Well.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Fuck Alex, I'll take things that never happened for it.
Hundred dollars buying this.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
No, not one bit.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
I mean being someone that stood up at our school boards.
Speaker 11 (25:33):
They were so hyper focused.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
By the way, the FBI the CIA to put us
on a.
Speaker 11 (25:38):
Terror watch list.
Speaker 10 (25:39):
It is so disingenuous to say that James Comy, the
former head of the FBI, is so unaware of what
the term eighty six actually means in culture.
Speaker 11 (25:48):
But dog on it.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Those parents who get a little heated about their parential rights,
that is threatening.
Speaker 11 (25:54):
It is so disingenuous.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
Either he was absolutely the most incompetent and you know,
factually challenged FBI heads for not knowing what eighty six means,
or he's just not telling the truth.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
And mister total, he tried to drag his wife into
it too, flame throw her under the bus.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Enjoy your enjoy your ride. You know, I know it's
your show. But full of the Week I think in
Sociopath of the Week might be more suited. This guy
is creepy, absolutely creepy. And by the way, One of
the things I've talked about a lot, which no one
talks about is the fact they made a mini series
based on his book The Komy Rule. This was a
showtime all about the Russian collusion situation, which was a hoax.
(26:34):
And while they were making it, that particular hoax was
falling apart before our eyes, they kept going, they kept
producing it, and when you read the reviews of it,
no one ever mentioned that, hey, this is based on
a bunch of lies. The fact that whole mini series
still exists is so abhorrent to me.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Jeff Daniels too, wasn't it.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
I'm sorry to say, Chelsea Michigan's own terrible well in
the three spot. This is where you usually put the
best hitter in your batting order, look at Aaron Judge,
for instance. So for fools, what better place to go
than a two parter from Jake Tapper.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Because the whole conceit behind why this happened was because
Joe Biden, his advisors, and to a large degree, the
entire Democratic Party bought into the argument that Donald Trump
posted an existential threat to the United States. Joe Biden
was the only one who could defeat him, and therefore,
(27:29):
anything that went after Joe Biden would help Donald Trump.
That argument when when you convince yourself that the enemy,
if you're a Democrat, the enemy is Donald Trump. If
you're the media, if you convince yourself that the enemy
is an existential threat.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You can justify almost anything.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Now, I do not accept that I was part of
a cover up.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I do not.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Accept that I was just providing cover for Joe Biden.
I think a lot of these clips are not fair.
The one that is fair is the Laura Trump clip,
and I own it and I regret it, and I've
told her that privately, and that's completely fair. But what
we uncovered after the election, what people were willing to
(28:09):
tell us after the election, was so shocking.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And yeah, the Jackie Wularski thing is.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Awful, but I would posit that President Biden not being
able to come up with the name of his national
security advisor in December twenty twenty two is important information.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
That second clip from Magan Kelly's podcast and Christian Toto,
I know you wanted to talk about this, but I
think it's obvious that Tapper got consultation from his crisis
management team because the following is what he did. I'll
concede the Laura Trump point. Everything else is blown out
of proportion, in hogwash.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
That's hogwash.
Speaker 9 (28:45):
What's amazing to me is what he's saying is we
were onto a major story, but the people involved with
the story wouldn't talk, so we all had a lay
low until the political change winds changed and then they
would talk. So it has ever a story. They as
journalists have no ability to do any investigative work. They
have to sit back and say, well, we did our best,
(29:06):
which is literally nothing, which is literally what they did.
So if something bad is happening in the country, they
have no resources, no recourse, no ability to stalk people,
to hound them, to pepper them with questions, to make
sure that they know on a day to day basis,
until you talk to us, we're going to be on you.
They just don't do it.
Speaker 10 (29:24):
Yeah, it is It is just I think this is
to me the worst. So he isn't the third spot
for a reason because not only is he trying to
rewrite history oh as of December twenty twenty two, but
he didn't talk about it, then this is actually his job.
You could almost give John Stewart her time out earlier,
a little bit of past. He's a little bit of
an entertainer. This is CNN. This is the place where
(29:47):
I used to get my news when they had the
twenty four seven.
Speaker 11 (29:50):
You know, the news would change all the time, and
it was great. It was just news.
Speaker 10 (29:54):
Not only was he not reporting the news, he's not
trying to make money off of it, to the point
that he had to hire a crisis pr firm and
is now saying, you know, I have some humility. Now
if you say humility in the right way, it convinces everybody.
Speaker 11 (30:10):
I have humility.
Speaker 9 (30:12):
Who's buying this now.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
I'll get And the problem is, by the way, one
thing I heard, people are buying the book, which is
the worst because of all of this press about it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
I mentioned Jeff Daniels earlier, and of course one of
his all time great performances was Dumb and Dumber with
Jim Carrey, and might Alex Thompson be that compliment to
Jake Tapper dumb and Dumber. Here he's talking about a
fake town hall that he uncovered through his stealth and
intrepid reporting, and he gives us two reasons why the
(30:46):
fake town hall was not used in a campaign video,
and it takes Scott Jennings of CNN to jump in
and go what now.
Speaker 19 (30:56):
Some people say this was because Joe Biden was incoherent,
he could not really articulate his thoughts and epithy or
even semi normal way. Some people just said, like the
lighting was bad. That was sort of the two points
of view. But the point is it shows how like
what the campaign's status was in the spring of twenty
(31:18):
twenty four when they were trying to deal with a
candidate that wasn't the climb.
Speaker 9 (31:22):
Wait, someone told you the lighting was bad. That's one
of the you're saying that they spent millions of dollars
to stage at town hall. Well, we didn't get the
lighting right.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
That was why, I excuse this unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
So, Deborah, it could be Biden had cognitive cline and
was non copasmentis, or could just been bad lighting.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
Oh my goodness, I'm just looking at this right now.
First of all, Alex Johnson is with Axious and I
just had to look it up. Here's what Axio says, smart, efficient,
newsworthy of your time, attention and trust. I'm sorry if
you're not doing your job. Where is the day, as
we talked about earlier, of all the presents men, where
are the Woodwards and the Burns, We're the ones who
(32:01):
are actually saying, you know, the book that should be
written is about the worst cover up of media in
our tyn history. It makes the Nixon Watergate tapes look
like a tiny, little preschool cover up compared to the
complicity of everyone who claims to be in the media.
The journalistic integrity is dead. I think, Christian, what you
(32:22):
said earlier. I think it is the death of the
legacy media. And let's hope that they are real journalists
that are that arise it can actually earn the trust
of the American people.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Back final minute, final word, Christian, total.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
I think at in the day, there are still people
who tune into CNN, who still listen to Jake Tapper,
who read Alex Thompson. I just can't believe it. You know,
there are conservative voices who I used to trust and
who's to follow and used to think are interesting. Tucker Carlson,
Candice Owens. They are just completely out of the picture
for me. I don't care about them, even when they
have interesting things to say. Go well, Lucas said it,
(32:55):
and I move on. I look to the Megan Kelly's,
Matt Tayebs, Glenn Greenwold, except an issue is Israel, where
he's off the charts. You know that's where I I mean,
I've been burned by them and I've moved one. How
could you be a news an American, a consumer of
news and not move on from these absolute clowns.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Well, maybe you're a clown yourself.
Speaker 11 (33:17):
Hongko, his nose is off is on? Tapper?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
All right? Your votes?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Bring them in, Jared Polis, our first nominee, Jake Tapper,
James Comey, Alex Thompson. It's a tough choice, it always is,
and we'll get the votes of vote Deborah and Christian
when they have a chance to contemplate it during this break,
we come back to wrap it all up on the
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Speaker 1 (35:15):
What were the odds?
Speaker 8 (35:16):
Jake Tapper uh making excuses for covering up Biden's declined bit,
denying that he did it at all, and Alex Thompson
is this worse?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
He presents to the audience with a straight face like
it was either Biden's cognitive decline in this fake town
hall that prevented them from using footage from it in
a campaign video, or they have bad lighting.
Speaker 9 (35:37):
Mister president, you now that Wait, I'm mirring this in
my ear?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (35:40):
The lighting was bad? Christian quickly vote it's all Tapper,
It's all Tapper, and you know, listens good defenses for
all the above, all the rest of the competition. But
as a newsman who gets caught and he can't admit
it and he's doubling down at the.
Speaker 11 (35:57):
Worst, what I'm going to because we believe in freedom.
I'm going to make up my own rules.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
I'm going to combine Tapper and Thompson because they wrote
the book together, and that is original sin in not
finding the truth.
Speaker 8 (36:11):
I heard you too talking about Tom Cruise during the break.
I got a lot of Tom Cruise stuff. If you
want to stick around for the next segment, you're invite.
You're always invited. We'll have our number two either way
after this
Can CNN thread the needle?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
How do you pivot from excitedly promoting your anchor's book
to somberly and respectfully promoting your anchor's book's health was.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Very much in the news even before the cancer diagnosis
was announced on Sunday. That's because of a new book
by CNN Jake Tapper.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
This was already going to be a tough week and
just makes it much harder. And that is a reference
to the fact that our colleague Jake Capper and Alex
Thompson have a book that's set to publish on Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
This very tough news, this very challenging news, and at
the same time, the backdrop of our college Jake Tapper's
book with Alex Thompson coming out this week.
Speaker 6 (00:48):
It's so hard, it's such as a difficult time, so
unfathomable in terms of the pain this family must be feeling.
And yet if you act now.
Speaker 7 (01:01):
And you use the code backslash tap that book you
will obviously not available for some reason in Tennessee.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
But the point is.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Forgetting about the fact how weird it is that the
News is selling you a book about news they should
have told you was news a year ago.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
For free.
Speaker 8 (01:41):
It's just fun, John Stewart, The Daily Show having fun
at the expense of Jake Tapper and CNN. We're on
the right side of Hollywood, Deborah Floor in studio along
with Christian Toto and Toto. You brought this to my
attention because there seems to be a circular firing squad
(02:02):
everybody on the left pointing the finger and everybody else
for the lack of coverage on Biden's de climb. But
I don't remember John Stuart getting it right either.
Speaker 9 (02:13):
He's a fraud. He's just a fraud. He's an absolute fraud.
He's covering himself and by the way, making fun of
CNN for being overly aggressive in promoting one of their
books by one of their reporters. It's low hanging fruit.
It's the easiest thing to do. It's certainly mockable, for sure.
He did a nice shot with it, but it really
is complete and utter deflection. John Stuart, where were you?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Where were you?
Speaker 9 (02:37):
You were silent? You're the truth teller, you're the satirist.
You're supposed the whole people accountable. He did nothing of
the kind. When he first came back to the show,
he talked about the Biden Trump matchup again, and he
was a little spicy toward Biden, admitting he wasn't quite
what he used to be, and he got real blowback
from his base, and he shut that down. No more
(02:58):
talk about that, no more honesty, no more truth to power.
He just went under his bunker. And that's why he's
a fraud. They're all frauds. There's so much to say
about this, but let's zero in on John Stewart not
doing his job.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
Well, that was The Daily Show, and I've got a
little bit more along those lines from John Stewart's podcast
called The Weekly Show.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
But first, Deborah Floor, your thoughts.
Speaker 10 (03:21):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think what's so interesting is
you pull a lot of people and they say, where
do they get their news. It's John Stewart, it's Stephen Colbert,
and they love to teut this idea that they are
somehow disseminators of truth on the edge, raw and all
that until they now are complicit with everyone else.
Speaker 11 (03:40):
So I do think it's a great.
Speaker 10 (03:41):
Comment that, yes, CNN is acting like this is now
news to sell a book on what they should have
been reporting before.
Speaker 11 (03:47):
I think that's accurate.
Speaker 10 (03:49):
But my goodness, look in the mirror, because there was
nothing from John Stewart, and now he's trying to even
take attack more than no action. I'm just like a
late night talk show host. And Stephen Colbert had both
acted and really encourage it.
Speaker 9 (04:04):
I did that.
Speaker 10 (04:04):
They are a news source, can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, this is what they do.
Speaker 9 (04:08):
It's clown nose on clown nos on. I did not
invent that. Bend Shapiro did he was he this?
Speaker 8 (04:14):
Well, he's the one that constantly refers to what Deever
is just talking about as the whole You go back
about twenty years or so and John Stewart went on
and torched Crossfire really I think led to its demise
and cancellation when he was calling out Tucker Carlson, Paul Begala,
and he'said, my show follows crank y Anchor's puppets. Both
(04:34):
take me seriously until he wants you to take him seriously. Yeah,
and then you should take him seriously.
Speaker 9 (04:38):
Quite the dance.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
Well, there are three John's with no h's collaborating on
this podcast. You had John Stewart, who you hear from
in a moment, John Favreau, who you won't hear from
former speechwriter for Obama. The Obama Bros. They're kind of called.
They're these millennials who worked in the Obama administration, wrote
speeches for him, and they host Pod Save America, one
of the top podcasts in America, certainly for those who
(05:00):
reside on the left politically. Here's John love It also
without an age from Pod Save America claiming their podcast
was honest about Biden's decline.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But there's some caveats.
Speaker 12 (05:10):
I've been reflecting on this too, about you know, because
we went to the White House and saw Joe Biden,
who had just come back from a trip, and he
was I don't think it wasn't as as I think
egregious is what you hear in the audio around her
report was April, and he was rambling and he was
hard to follow, and he repeated a story.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
But then we were assured.
Speaker 12 (05:31):
By people around him that he was just exhausted. And
then we were at the fundraiser, obviously, the famous Clooney fundraiser,
and you know, I think people inside maybe weren't being
honest with themselves about what they were seeing. But I know,
if like from my own point of view, part of
What was a challenge was because Joe Biden seemed so
(05:51):
hell bent on staying in right. I never wanted to
be dishonest about what I felt we were seeing and
by the way we were and about talking about Joe
Biden not doing enough to overcome the questions around his
age long before he dropped out, like we were talking
about it. We were trying to be honest about it, were.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You, Deborah? Here's my big problem with it. I always
work on.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
Things in terms of like an algebraic equation, the constants
of the variables.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
The constant that you could.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
Sub out in this equation would be okay, John love it,
Trump hater. If we sub in Trump for Biden, and
Trump's staff assured you behind closed doors, he's a dynamo.
There's nothing to see here. He's just exhausted. Would he
have taken Trump's staff for his word for it?
Speaker 11 (06:34):
You know, this is such It's such a sad state.
Speaker 10 (06:38):
Of talking about media and what should be one of
the watchdogs on government. If we go back to all
the presidents men, the thought that either one of those
investigative journalists would have just taken the word of the
Nixon administration for the.
Speaker 11 (06:53):
No take that word for it. It was just the plumbers, right,
I mean.
Speaker 10 (06:57):
Because that's hey, that's what we do because they told
us this.
Speaker 13 (07:00):
It is, it is.
Speaker 11 (07:02):
It is just like the blind calling, you know.
Speaker 10 (07:05):
I mean, I'm going to get you know, attached for
UNPC that I'm talking about anyone that is sightless. But
you know what I mean, they're all accusing one another
instead of saying, I have to say, this is the
demise of journalism. And let's just realize it. We didn't
ask questions, we did not push, We just took it
because you know what, hey, we were all on the
same team and just didn't want the other guy to win.
(07:28):
And back to John Stewart, in that long comedic thing
that he had and he's got good comedic timing, he
actually said it was a bad cover up because we
all knew. He actually said that, you know what, And
then for anyone else that is in the situation to
say that they somehow just took the word of the
(07:49):
Biden handlers who are completely vested in it, it is
an abdication of every single aspect of what they are
supposed to do. And yes, they would not have done
that for Trump, and they would have done that for Nixon.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
Here's John Stewart following up on Deborah's point here, which
is we could all see it. I just wasn't going
to help with the observation of what was going on
with Biden.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Here's John Stuart. Yeah, everybody talks about that.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
This all began after the debate, but I think everybody
very clearly was you know, polls were showing a year
before that people felt that he was not in a
position to run for reelection. People were talking about it
before then. The debate was kind of the uh, we're
all worried about, you know, a hurricane event, and then
(08:34):
the hurricane hit, but people were talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
People were talking about it. Christian he wasn't. He wasn't.
Speaker 9 (08:40):
I mean, it funlt like he had the Wigley platform.
And it's not like it's his job to talk about
significant events in the political realm. That's not his gig.
I mean, he's a juggler, right, does he do penamine?
I forget what his job is. It's certainly not being
a political comedian, because he failed miserably at that. And
you know, John Stewart is in the way, the dean
of this whole institution in this whole Late Night obviously,
(09:01):
Johnny Carson, there's Leno. You know, you go on anstey ballen.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But they did.
Speaker 9 (09:06):
This is the politicization of this. He was the he
was the starter's pistol, and he failed, and he was
the one guy who listened. Colbert and Kimmel will almost
never lean to the right in their comedy, almost never grudgingly,
half heartedly. Stewart once in the Blue Moon does that.
And this was his moment.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And he failed.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
And by the way, legacy media is dying and will die.
And this was their one last gasp to say breaks on.
Oh my goodness, you have lost the trust. This is
a colossal mistake. We will do better, and it starts
today and they're doing nothing of the kind. They're actually
tripling down.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
And that's why I'll quibble with one little detail here
as we go to Deborah on I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I know, how dare I?
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Because I don't think they got it wrong. I think
it was willful and intentional. They wanted to get it
wrong and love it accidentally, maybe on purpose, I don't know.
Get us away the game right here. Here's lie and
I'll have dever comm on the other side.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
But I think the.
Speaker 12 (10:03):
Point I was going to make about just my own
perspective on it was I remember feeling I want to
talk about this as a huge liability. I want to
talk about this as something Joe Biden can overcome. But
I'm not going to go so far as to say
I think Joe Biden must drop out he is too
old to be president a because I didn't know exactly
what was going on behind the scenes, but b if.
Speaker 14 (10:23):
Joe Biden is the candidate, I wanted to win because
I care about the country and I can't and I
don't want to be somebody suddenly having the words we're
saying taken out of context and all of a sudden
part of the case against Joe Biden from the right
that would use any any person criticizing Joe Biden from
the left as a weapon against him. So it was
(10:44):
about being honest about Joe Biden's age as a liability
while knowing that if he is the nomin knee. I
want to be clear that I thought it was important
to make sure we did everything we could to reelect it.
Speaker 8 (10:55):
It was about being honest about what we saw, but
we had to be dishonest in order to ensure that
Trump didn't win.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
It is shocking to me. I think they actually believe this.
First of all, the podcast is Pod Saves America. Okay, now,
now we can just take quival with that, but they
really believe that their job is to stand up for
the good of America.
Speaker 11 (11:14):
How about the truth?
Speaker 10 (11:16):
I mean, even John Stewart said, well, polls showed this.
You don't report these things based on poles. Oh, people
are catching on to this, so let's talk about it.
How about just sharing the truth. If you really love
this country and you call yourself anywhere in the media,
your job is to make the citizens of this country
(11:36):
aware of the truth so that they can make decisions
to be a safeguard against that whatever power it is.
Speaker 11 (11:44):
I mean, I'd want them to.
Speaker 10 (11:45):
Report on this if Donald Trump was not mentally capable
of doing the job, I would want Fox News to
have done that or anyone else, because you know, our
founding father said the key to a free republic is
a well edged cad citizenry.
Speaker 11 (12:01):
The media no longer does that.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
They tell people what they want to get their chosen outcome,
and they've forgotten what the very job of the media.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Is, yeah to reflect on that paradigm, even though it
doesn't follow logic, because not the entire mainstream media is
of our orientation politically. However, let's just say if Fox
News had carried forth a narrative and lied to me,
you Christian, about Trump's condition, and then later it was
revealed that we should have known, or if you just
believe your lying eyes, you would know. I would feel duped,
(12:33):
I would feel stupid, I would feel insulted, and I
would not watch Fox News anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But these people.
Speaker 8 (12:38):
Continue, because of their Trump derangement syndrome, to be addicted
to the hit of the Orange Man is bad no
matter what. And so they're going to continue to watch
Rachel Mattout, They're going to continue to listen to Pod
Save America.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
They're going to continue to watch John Stewart.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Now, I want to shift gears just for a moment,
because this follows up on something I believe we were
talking about either last week or the week before, and
that was Bruce Springsteen overseas criticizing the Trump administration. Easy
to do when we ripped him rightfully. Well, Eddie Vetter
is joining the conversation. Now, he has entered the chat,
and he said this in a performance this past week.
Speaker 13 (13:12):
When I hear that Chris Racing brings up issues and
makes his thoughts, you know, and uses.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
His microphone to speak for those.
Speaker 13 (13:26):
Who don't have a voice, sometimes you are not a never.
Speaker 15 (13:32):
I appreciate you listen, and I bring it up because
the response to all that and him using the microphone,
the response had nothing to do with the issues.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
We didn't talk about one of those issues, didn't have a.
Speaker 15 (13:50):
Conversation about one of those issues, didn't debate any one
of those issues.
Speaker 13 (13:57):
All that we heard were personal hacks and dress that.
Speaker 9 (14:02):
Nobody else should even try to.
Speaker 13 (14:04):
Use their microphone or use their voice in public.
Speaker 15 (14:09):
Or they will be shut down.
Speaker 16 (14:14):
Not that is not allowed in this.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Country that we call America.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
In a.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Part of three, free is open discussion.
Speaker 13 (14:31):
Part of democracy is healthy public discord.
Speaker 17 (14:35):
Sure, the name is Sylvanus Bruce has always been as
pro American with his values of freedom and liberty, and
his justice.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Has always remained intact.
Speaker 13 (14:51):
And I'm saying that that's now. I'm saying that to
be sure that this freedom is speaking will still exist
in another year where when we come back to.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
This microphone, now, the crowd was channing Bruce, not booing there.
But I remember distinctly Billy Joel was just announced that
he's suffering from a brain disorders, got a cancel his
entire tour. But I saw him at Course Field thanks
to Alex out there by the way, and he kind
of funt. This is kind of sad in retrospect because
maybe this was the beginning of something serious. But he
was joking about it on stage. Billy Joel, he kind
(15:23):
of fumbled with his music. He goes, ah, it's kind
of like Joe Biden. Everybody's kind of laughing in the crowd,
and then he caught himself, well, Trump too, and he
kind of followed with that, but he led with Joe
Biden's not that great now. Eddie Vedda here covering for
Bruce Springsteen. I guess an homage to a legend. But
mister Toto, what do you make of what Eddie Vedder
had to say?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
There?
Speaker 9 (15:42):
He's another fraud? Where was he during cancel culture? Where
was he during the woke attacks on speech? Where was
he during the Twitter files? Where was he when people
had theories about COVID, who was shut down, slammed, attacked
and silenced? Where was he nowhere? Fake fraud phony. I
want to curse so bad, Lahoya these guys. I covered
(16:03):
this seven days a week. This is such horse MANU
where he is an absolute phony, fraud. He only cares
when his side is potentially silenced. And but by the way,
he's not being silenced. Bruce Springsteen was contributing to the
campaign to Kamala Harris, and some shady things were going
on here. That's what Trump's referencing. He's not trying to
shut down Trump. These guys are just full of it.
(16:25):
They're full of it. They're absolute frauds. How dare they
They're just complete phonies. I have zero respect face people.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
And maybe even worse than that, Deborah is we know
that their sellouts to the Trump point was Beyonce was
paid to show.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And didn't even sing a note. It was off the stage.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
Yeah, it is interesting, and I love Christian's passionate about
this because I he worked in Hollywood, but my husband
and I where were the they when people were being
told that if you even said in Hollywood, I kind
of like America, you would get a look and you
would suddenly be be banned. Where was this standing up
for all of the great artists such as James Woods
(17:07):
or John Ratzenberger or I mean, the list goes on
and on and on.
Speaker 11 (17:12):
And I remember John.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
Vo used to say to us, look, I can say
what I say. And his daring thing was even saying
that he stood up for Israel. But that was rock
in the boat in Hollywood, and he would tell everyone
else in this group, the underground group of conservatives, wo
would say, but don't you do it, or you'll never
work in this town again.
Speaker 11 (17:29):
And that's true.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
So to Christian's point, I think what's interesting is those
on the right of center are the classic liberals. What
is classic liberalism. Classic liberalism is I believe in freedom.
Therefore I believe in our right to disagree. I will
not cancel you because you have a different opinion. Let's
all come together in the public score and discuss it.
(17:52):
That is classic liberalism. What we're seeing from people like
Eddie Vedder and Bruce Springsteen is a facade. What they
really have, which is quite the opposite. It is not
for free speech, It is not for free expression.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
There you go, And where was he on college campuses
where people have been chased away? Yes, Riley Gaines had
a height in a closet although I should be physically
attacked Ben Shapiro and culture. So many conservative speakers have
been shouted down, physically attacked, told to stay silent. Where
was he and.
Speaker 11 (18:23):
Where are they? Right now?
Speaker 10 (18:23):
By the way, talking about the Israeli couple that was
shot right in front of the Jewish museum in our
nation's capital by someone who did it because they were Jewish.
If they're looking for causes, isn't this to me is
the saddest thing about it all. There is passion on
that side, there is talent on that side, and if
(18:46):
they're looking for righteous causes, if they want to be
part of the new civil rights movement, there's plenty of
real injustices to stand.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
Up against Deborah Flora Christian total right side of Hollywood.
When we come back our nominees for our Friday Fool
of the Week and Boiler Alert, two of them are
authors co authors of the same book.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
You know who they are.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
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Speaker 9 (20:26):
You don't think it's an infringement on the First Amendment?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 18 (20:29):
Well, look, obviously you have to if you have an employer.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
There's things you can say and can't.
Speaker 18 (20:33):
Say at work, right, I mean this is not like
you know, with your friends in your house at all, right, right,
I mean that's not against a lot. When you go
to work, you cannot call your African American colleague the
N word. I mean that that is, you know, that
is a civil rights violation. So of course this is
a great diverse state. You may have to work with
somebody who's Trensender, somebody, you may have to work with
somebody who who's African Americans like you just have to
(20:55):
respect whoever you work with. You you know, and you you
all try to get along, and that is in the
professional side of things, how we all get together as
a state. And I would add this goes always.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
If you have a adout.
Speaker 18 (21:06):
Christian who you work with, you have to respect that
you never mocked their Christianity, You never mocked their faith
at work again in your own home. So you know,
if you're with friends and you can argue about Christianity
or transgender and you can get meaning and vicious and
there's no violation of law, totally free speech. But when
you're at work, absolutely there are expectations of what you
do at work and treat everybody civilly. This bill doesn't
(21:28):
too much about that, but that was already the law
in Colorado.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Governor Jared Poulis and why he signed thirteen twelve into
law joining ros Komenski earlier this week. And I chose
this clip because he sets up a false dichotomy between
you're either at home doing your own thing.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Christian and I kicking it with a couple of.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Brews saying whatever we want, or you're in the workplace
and well, you've got to respect you know, you're co workers,
and therefore there could be a civil rights violation if
you say the wrong thing and word, etc.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Trans coworkers.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
What about everywhere else we go in Colorado, Christian. That
could be a ballgame, that could be the supermarket, that
could be a restaurant. It says, if Jared Poulis lives
a life, he goes to work, punches in, and he
goes home. But nowhere in between what happens when you're
in a public setting, let's say like Masterpiece Cake Shop
with Jack Phillips.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
Yeah, he's not thinking it through. I don't think he
wants to think it through. And I'm sure there have
been plenty of Christians who have been insulted in the
workplace without any repercussions, So not giving him high score
in this I think. I think the fool slate has
started strong, but I fear it's going to get stronger.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Look never how about Jared Poulos as a lead offer.
Speaker 10 (22:35):
You know, I just think about the fact that Jesus
Christ and I separate that out because for myself as
a Christian, that is a term of great respect. Is
used as a whear word constantly everywhere you go. You know,
people are asking the Almighty to damn someone to hell
all the time, everywhere you go, and you don't see
(22:55):
Christians saying, oh, you can't do that, because.
Speaker 11 (22:58):
That's using my faith.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Now, I oftentimes will say to somebody, you know, by
the way, I am a believer, that is something that
I'm not comfortable with. But I don't go to the
legislation say I want you to sue them and make
it illegal to do that, because that is the point
of free speech if you cannot actually have the ability
(23:20):
to call out a conversation that is reprehensible. One of
the best things that happened in defeating the horrors of
the KKK was let him talk, and then everybody says,
this is terrible, but I thought was something was interesting
in that quote. Jared Paula said, you can go home
and be as mean and as vicious as you want.
He equated free speech with being mean ambitious. How about
(23:43):
you have a respectful conversation, say I disagree with you.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
I have a trans listener named Kimberly who's loyal to
this program.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I'm very thankful for.
Speaker 8 (23:51):
I made a tremendous point, which is you don't have
a right to have your feelings.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Not be hurt exactly. Yeah, that's for freedom of speech.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
Like you said, people will indict themselves clan members, racists,
they'll be expelled from polite society, but you will allow
them to speak in the public square, to out themselves
and not chase them into the shadows. And this whole
debate again around Jared Poulis and him signing thirteen twelve.
It's not over yet. It's being fought in the court.
So he's our first nominee for our Friday Fool the Week.
The next one very deserving. He walked upon the seashore,
(24:23):
I could just stop there. Here's James Comy almost Colbert,
what happened?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
He walked on the beach and you saw this on
the beach.
Speaker 16 (24:31):
Yeah, My wife and I, Patrece, were walking on the
beach and saw those numbers in shells on the beach.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You didn't do this. Somebody else did that. Yeah, somebody
else did it.
Speaker 16 (24:39):
We were on a walk preparing for this week roll
out of my book.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yep.
Speaker 16 (24:42):
She looked at it and said, why'd someone put their
address in the sands?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
All right? And we stood at it trying.
Speaker 16 (24:48):
To figure looked at it trying to figure out what
it was. And she'd long been a server in restaurants,
and she said, you know what I think it is.
I think it's a reference to restaurants when you had
eighty six something in a restaurant.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
It's off the menu. Yeah, I said not.
Speaker 14 (24:59):
I remember.
Speaker 16 (24:59):
I was like, kid, you'd say eighty six to get
out of a place.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
This place stinks, So it's eighty six. I was a bartender.
Speaker 19 (25:04):
You would eighty six a customer if they were getting drunk, like,
that's eighty six.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
On this like give him a low proof alcohol or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (25:11):
And so I said, I think it's a clever political
message and she said you should take a picture of it.
I said sure, and then she said you should instagram
that and boom, Well.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Fuck Alex, I'll take things that never happened for it.
Hundred dollars buying this.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
No, not one bit.
Speaker 10 (25:30):
I mean being someone that stood up at our school boards.
Speaker 11 (25:33):
They were so hyper focused.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
By the way, the FBI the CIA to put us
on a.
Speaker 11 (25:38):
Terror watch list.
Speaker 10 (25:39):
It is so disingenuous to say that James Comy, the
former head of the FBI, is so unaware of what
the term eighty six actually means in culture.
Speaker 11 (25:48):
But dog on it.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Those parents who get a little heated about their parential rights,
that is threatening.
Speaker 11 (25:54):
It is so disingenuous.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
Either he was absolutely the most incompetent and you know,
factually challenged FBI heads for not knowing what eighty six means,
or he's just not telling the truth.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
And mister total, he tried to drag his wife into
it too, flame throw her under the bus.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Enjoy your enjoy your ride. You know, I know it's
your show. But full of the Week I think in
Sociopath of the Week might be more suited. This guy
is creepy, absolutely creepy. And by the way, One of
the things I've talked about a lot, which no one
talks about is the fact they made a mini series
based on his book The Komy Rule. This was a
showtime all about the Russian collusion situation, which was a hoax.
(26:34):
And while they were making it, that particular hoax was
falling apart before our eyes, they kept going, they kept
producing it, and when you read the reviews of it,
no one ever mentioned that, hey, this is based on
a bunch of lies. The fact that whole mini series
still exists is so abhorrent to me.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Jeff Daniels too, wasn't it.
Speaker 8 (26:51):
I'm sorry to say, Chelsea Michigan's own terrible well in
the three spot. This is where you usually put the
best hitter in your batting order, look at Aaron Judge,
for instance. So for fools, what better place to go
than a two parter from Jake Tapper.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Because the whole conceit behind why this happened was because
Joe Biden, his advisors, and to a large degree, the
entire Democratic Party bought into the argument that Donald Trump
posted an existential threat to the United States. Joe Biden
was the only one who could defeat him, and therefore,
(27:29):
anything that went after Joe Biden would help Donald Trump.
That argument when when you convince yourself that the enemy,
if you're a Democrat, the enemy is Donald Trump. If
you're the media, if you convince yourself that the enemy
is an existential threat.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You can justify almost anything.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Now, I do not accept that I was part of
a cover up.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I do not.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Accept that I was just providing cover for Joe Biden.
I think a lot of these clips are not fair.
The one that is fair is the Laura Trump clip,
and I own it and I regret it, and I've
told her that privately, and that's completely fair. But what
we uncovered after the election, what people were willing to
(28:09):
tell us after the election, was so shocking.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And yeah, the Jackie Wularski thing is.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Awful, but I would posit that President Biden not being
able to come up with the name of his national
security advisor in December twenty twenty two is important information.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
That second clip from Magan Kelly's podcast and Christian Toto,
I know you wanted to talk about this, but I
think it's obvious that Tapper got consultation from his crisis
management team because the following is what he did. I'll
concede the Laura Trump point. Everything else is blown out
of proportion, in hogwash.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
That's hogwash.
Speaker 9 (28:45):
What's amazing to me is what he's saying is we
were onto a major story, but the people involved with
the story wouldn't talk, so we all had a lay
low until the political change winds changed and then they
would talk. So it has ever a story. They as
journalists have no ability to do any investigative work. They
have to sit back and say, well, we did our best,
(29:06):
which is literally nothing, which is literally what they did.
So if something bad is happening in the country, they
have no resources, no recourse, no ability to stalk people,
to hound them, to pepper them with questions, to make
sure that they know on a day to day basis,
until you talk to us, we're going to be on you.
They just don't do it.
Speaker 10 (29:24):
Yeah, it is It is just I think this is
to me the worst. So he isn't the third spot
for a reason because not only is he trying to
rewrite history oh as of December twenty twenty two, but
he didn't talk about it, then this is actually his job.
You could almost give John Stewart her time out earlier,
a little bit of past. He's a little bit of
an entertainer. This is CNN. This is the place where
(29:47):
I used to get my news when they had the
twenty four seven.
Speaker 11 (29:50):
You know, the news would change all the time, and
it was great. It was just news.
Speaker 10 (29:54):
Not only was he not reporting the news, he's not
trying to make money off of it, to the point
that he had to hire a crisis pr firm and
is now saying, you know, I have some humility. Now
if you say humility in the right way, it convinces everybody.
Speaker 11 (30:10):
I have humility.
Speaker 9 (30:12):
Who's buying this now.
Speaker 10 (30:14):
I'll get And the problem is, by the way, one
thing I heard, people are buying the book, which is
the worst because of all of this press about it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Well.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
I mentioned Jeff Daniels earlier, and of course one of
his all time great performances was Dumb and Dumber with
Jim Carrey, and might Alex Thompson be that compliment to
Jake Tapper dumb and Dumber. Here he's talking about a
fake town hall that he uncovered through his stealth and
intrepid reporting, and he gives us two reasons why the
(30:46):
fake town hall was not used in a campaign video,
and it takes Scott Jennings of CNN to jump in
and go what now.
Speaker 19 (30:56):
Some people say this was because Joe Biden was incoherent,
he could not really articulate his thoughts and epithy or
even semi normal way. Some people just said, like the
lighting was bad. That was sort of the two points
of view. But the point is it shows how like
what the campaign's status was in the spring of twenty
(31:18):
twenty four when they were trying to deal with a
candidate that wasn't the climb.
Speaker 9 (31:22):
Wait, someone told you the lighting was bad. That's one
of the you're saying that they spent millions of dollars
to stage at town hall. Well, we didn't get the
lighting right.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
That was why, I excuse this unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
So, Deborah, it could be Biden had cognitive cline and
was non copasmentis, or could just been bad lighting.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
Oh my goodness, I'm just looking at this right now.
First of all, Alex Johnson is with Axious and I
just had to look it up. Here's what Axio says, smart, efficient,
newsworthy of your time, attention and trust. I'm sorry if
you're not doing your job. Where is the day, as
we talked about earlier, of all the presents men, where
are the Woodwards and the Burns, We're the ones who
(32:01):
are actually saying, you know, the book that should be
written is about the worst cover up of media in
our tyn history. It makes the Nixon Watergate tapes look
like a tiny, little preschool cover up compared to the
complicity of everyone who claims to be in the media.
The journalistic integrity is dead. I think, Christian, what you
(32:22):
said earlier. I think it is the death of the
legacy media. And let's hope that they are real journalists
that are that arise it can actually earn the trust
of the American people.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Back final minute, final word, Christian, total.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
I think at in the day, there are still people
who tune into CNN, who still listen to Jake Tapper,
who read Alex Thompson. I just can't believe it. You know,
there are conservative voices who I used to trust and
who's to follow and used to think are interesting. Tucker Carlson,
Candice Owens. They are just completely out of the picture
for me. I don't care about them, even when they
have interesting things to say. Go well, Lucas said it,
(32:55):
and I move on. I look to the Megan Kelly's,
Matt Tayebs, Glenn Greenwold, except an issue is Israel, where
he's off the charts. You know that's where I I mean,
I've been burned by them and I've moved one. How
could you be a news an American, a consumer of
news and not move on from these absolute clowns.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Well, maybe you're a clown yourself.
Speaker 11 (33:17):
Hongko, his nose is off is on? Tapper?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
All right? Your votes?
Speaker 8 (33:22):
Bring them in, Jared Polis, our first nominee, Jake Tapper,
James Comey, Alex Thompson. It's a tough choice, it always is,
and we'll get the votes of vote Deborah and Christian
when they have a chance to contemplate it during this break,
we come back to wrap it all up on the
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Speaker 1 (35:15):
What were the odds?
Speaker 8 (35:16):
Jake Tapper uh making excuses for covering up Biden's declined bit,
denying that he did it at all, and Alex Thompson
is this worse?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
He presents to the audience with a straight face like
it was either Biden's cognitive decline in this fake town
hall that prevented them from using footage from it in
a campaign video, or they have bad lighting.
Speaker 9 (35:37):
Mister president, you now that Wait, I'm mirring this in
my ear?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
What's going on?
Speaker 9 (35:40):
The lighting was bad? Christian quickly vote it's all Tapper,
It's all Tapper, and you know, listens good defenses for
all the above, all the rest of the competition. But
as a newsman who gets caught and he can't admit
it and he's doubling down at the.
Speaker 11 (35:57):
Worst, what I'm going to because we believe in freedom.
I'm going to make up my own rules.
Speaker 10 (36:02):
I'm going to combine Tapper and Thompson because they wrote
the book together, and that is original sin in not
finding the truth.
Speaker 8 (36:11):
I heard you too talking about Tom Cruise during the break.
I got a lot of Tom Cruise stuff. If you
want to stick around for the next segment, you're invite.
You're always invited. We'll have our number two either way
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Have you ever wondered what life might be like if you stopped worrying about being wanted, and focused on understanding what you actually want? That was the question Hope Woodard asked herself after a string of situationships inspired her to take a break from sex and dating. She went "boysober," a personal concept that sparked a global movement among women looking to prioritize themselves over men. Now, Hope is looking to expand the ways we explore our relationship to relationships. Taking a bold, unfiltered look into modern love, romance, and self-discovery, Boysober will dive into messy stories about dating, sex, love, friendship, and breaking generational patterns—all with humor, vulnerability, and a fresh perspective.
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