December 10, 2025 • 34 mins
Erika Kirk takes to Fox News to defend her Turning Point USA 'family' against allegations and conspiracy theories being spewed by Candace Owens regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination. Ryan has had quite enough of the Candace grift and exploitation of a widow's sorrow.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
With Erica Kirk sharing her journey with America and the world.
We are grateful at Fox to have her here to
shine a light on healing as we all miss and
more in the loss of her beloved Charlie Kirk. Not
all of her journey has been without well, hate, conspiracies,
and oddly speculation about where her husband is buried. Now,
(00:23):
for the first time, Erica, Who's with me now addresses
all of it from the perspective of a grieving widow,
a mom, and a battle tested American. Good to see
you again today. Talk to me about this part of
the conspiracies that are out there, this disturbing part that
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people are trying to guess where Charlie is.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Can I have one thing? Can I have one thing?
Can my children have one thing? Everything was public. We
will be building the most beautiful memorial for my husband
at Turning Point, USA, and it will be for the
world to see, and it will be spectacular and it
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will have a basically museum style for our Charlie from
my Charlie. But can I have one thing? Can my
babies have one thing? Where we hold it sacred, where
my husband is laid to rest, Where I don't have
to be worried about some secular revolutionary coming and destroying
my husband's grave. Well, my daughter is sitting there praying
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one thing that this is my husband. Yes he was
Charlie Kirk to the world, and I know so many
people love my husband, and I am grateful for that,
but this is my husband. And I want to be
able to have one thing left that is sacred to
our family, to my in laws, to my babies, and
to my parents one thing.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Today marks three months to the day that Charlie Kirk
was assassinated on a college campus in Utah, at Utah
Valley University just outside of Orum, Utah, where I traveled
many times as the playby play announcer for the Buildings
Mustangs and the Pioneer League of Baseball and the Oorum
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Owls with a Z would relocate here to Colorado.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
As I understand it, they played right on the campus there.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I've been there, and three months ago today Charlie Kirk
was murdered there. Erica Kirk appearing on Fox News this morning.
I believe she was on Fox and Friends Outnumbered and
she was talking with Harris Faulkner there and the reason
I want to address this not just because it marks
three months to the day that Charlie was murdered. I'm
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sick and tired of these grifters, these conspiracy theorists, and
I will name them. She doesn't, I will. Candice Owens
is a toxic cancer. She is a grifter, has been
a grifter, a liar, a charlatan, a fraud. She was
propped up for many years on Tucker Carlson's program, and
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that was one aspect of his show at that time,
which I lauded and watched every night like a lot
of you did, but tolerated her appearances because just below
the surface, I couldn't understand what she offered, what she
brought to the table, from a depth of knowledge standpoint,
from an analysis standpoint, from a life experience standpoint, Why
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did she matter?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And then Daley Wyer hired her in the.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Worst move that Ben Shapiro has ever made in his illustrious, celebrated,
rightly so career. And I believe that we on the
right fell into the trap that the left set for us,
and really the left set for themselves by adhering to
their woke ideological boxes to check.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And she happened to be a black woman, and oh
she's one.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Of us, and ooh she's a black woman, and we
need to elevate her and give her a platform. Really
why Other than what I just said, She is sophomoric
in her intellect. She is idiotic in her take on
Israel and the Jewish faith, in particular dangerously so, I
might add. And now she is fueling and fanning the
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flames of these completely whack adoodle conspiracy theories regarding Charlie's death,
and she is profiting from it.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
She is nothing short of evil, and I don't say
that lightly.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But it's time that we who are right of center
call out those on our own side who are obstacles
to our own goals and our own cause she's terrible.
We'll get into more of what Erica Kirk had to say.
I feel so awful for her, But Candace Owns is
not alone. There are a lot of fellow grifters that
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are trying to ride her coattails into the sunset by
getting clicks and likes and views and subscriptions and dollars
and whatever else that motivates them. This from the patriotic blonde,
whoever the hell she is, and it's a photo of
Erica Kirk smiling with two thumbs up, and it's entitled
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The Epitome of Grief in Quotes, Grief in Quotes, Thank
God for Matt Walsh. I can only imagine what the
conversations behind the scenes at Daily Wire and Nashville, Tennessee
are like between him now he's a Catholic and Ben Shapiro,
a Jewish Man, an Orthodox Jew who hired Candice in
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the first place.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
That divorce was extremely.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Messy, and if I was on Ben's team, I would
have done probably what Matt Walsh did. I'm just speculating now,
but I think I'm guessing correctly and behind What the
hell are we doing here? We're ruining and tarnishing our
brand with her. Get her the hell out of here.
And I would ask Ben, why did you hire her
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in the first place? What did you think you were getting?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So Walsh goes ham hard as a Jesse knows.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
On this post by again the patriotic blonde, And I'm
not even going to give you the handle because I
don't want her to gain followers. This kind of thing
is so effing stupid, Except he didn't say fing a
whole word. And I'm sick of it? Have you idiots,
never been around a grieving person before? Have you morons,
never in your life known anyone who was mourning. It's
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very common for grieving family members who smile in all
caps at the funeral, let alone three months later. They
smile when they remember happy moments with their loved one,
They smile at the kindness showed to them by others,
or they smile for a thousand other reasons because they're
human beings, and humans are capable of experiencing a range
of emotions on any given day. What do you expect
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that she's going to only frown and cry every second
of the day for the next ten years, and when
she does cry, you accuse her of faking that too.
It's almost like you're determined to hate this woman no
matter what, for reasons that I can't possibly understand.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's sick. I'm tired of it. What the f is
wrong with you? People?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Just waiting for any opportunity to dunk on a grieving widow.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You sick freaks. Bravo.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Matt Walsh. Mary Catherine Ham as well. She was a
widow herself. Her husband died tragically in a car accident
and she is quote posting Yashar Ali, who's got credibility.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Issues of his own. We won't get into those.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That's irrelevant to this, but from a post yesterday, he says,
it feels like today will finally be the day. Candace
Owens tells her dedicated and loyal followers, and it's a
series of posts that she is breadcrumbing. I'm sorry if
you follow this woman, you are a moron and it's
time that you had to come to Jesus meeting. And
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I'm here to advocate for that for you. I'm doing
this for you, for your own benefit, for your own good.
She is trash, she is garbage. I'm gonna go full
Donald Trump here and use that because it needs to
be clearly stated.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
She's the worst.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
So this series of posts that she has at real
Candice Owens, I don't even know if this is TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, ax, whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I'll just read them in order.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yesterday was the Feast of the Immaculate Conception in Catholic world,
that's a day of holy obligation. So as soon as
my podcast ended, I raced over to church for Mass.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
We continue.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I distinctly prayed for a final piece, meaning piece to
the puzzle, not peace on earth. I prayed for God
to give me a piece to the Charlie Kirk mystery
that would be a nail in the coffin and expose
the cover up. I went home, had a late dinner,
went up to lay in my daughter's bed for fifteen
minutes before going down to mine, and thought, quote, I'll
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just check the tips inbox. She's got an inbox for
tips about who conspired to kill Charlie Kirk. And wasn't
members of his own team at Turning Point USA? Were
they in on it? Continuing with her now, Candace Owans,
it was the first email I opened. I genuinely cannot
see this as anything other than an immediately answered prayer
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using God as part of your grift. Oh there's nothing
that boils my blood more than that, and she's not
the only example. I'll leave it at that for now.
A story from a man in the military that is
about to blow this case open.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Ooh, are you the Warren Commission? Candace? Is this Lee
Harvey Oswald was a Patsy? Is this where you're going
with it?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Finally, from Candace Owens, it feels like today will be
the day that the government can no longer deny it.
Charlie Kirk was assassinated and our military was involved. I
can't wait to share this information with you guys today.
Did she share that today?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Of course not.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Back to Erica Kirk on Fox News earlier today with
Harris Faulkner.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
What are they taking from you right now?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But I will tell you what they are doing. It
reminds me so much of Chapter six in the Book
of Nehemiah. He is building a wall, and the townspeople
are at the base of that hill, saying me Amiah,
calling him all these names, saying all these things, come
on down. Every single time he had the same message,
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four times in a row. I cannot come down. I
am busy building. That is how I feel. I do
not have time to address the noise. My silence does
not mean that I am complacent. My silence does not
mean that somehow turning point USA and all of the
handpicked step that loved my husband and my husband loved
them is somehow in on it. We are busy building,
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And you know what I thought. I thought these people
are human. We're all grieving in our own way, and
they are trying to find the answer to something that
happened that was so evil. They are trying so hard,
and I get that we're doing the same. Anytime we
hear a lead, or anytime we hear anything, we send
it to the authorities. Please dig into this. No rock
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will be unturned. I want justice from my husband, for myself,
for my family more than anyone else out there.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Erica Kirk with Harris Faulkner talking about her team, and
she gets very defensive about those team members and what
they are facing here. She says, bring all you want
in terms of criticism and scrutiny of me, but she
does draw the line somewhere.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So for me, you want to keep telling me to
come down while we're building, I don't have time for that.
But here's my breaking point on that. Come after me,
call me names, I don't care, call me what you want,
go down that.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Rabbit hole, whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But when you go after my family, my turning point,
USA family, my Charlie kirkshow family. When you go after
the people that I love, and you're making hundreds and
thousands of dollars every single episode.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
She's talking about Candace Owans.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
By the way, going after the people that I love,
because somehow they're in on this.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
No, you know, I have to say it. I've never
seen you like that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
No, I'm very This is righteous anger because this is
not okay. It's not healthy. This is a mind virus. Yes,
I believe in our judicial system.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I do.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We have a hell of a team working on this.
Excuse my French, but this is not okay.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I think that's the kindest explanation for candis owns is
that she would have a mind virus and she's a
complete idiot. But the cynic in me even goes as
far as to think that she does not believe her
own bs. She's high on her own supply, that's true.
She's telling herself a lie until she believes that that's true.
She's telling her followers that same lie until they believe
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it that's true. But she knows this theory isn't true
Tyler Robinson, as unexciting as it might seem, acted alone,
perhaps with the encouragement of far left elements, the trans community,
elements within that so called community. I don't want to
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label or lump them all together, because they're not all
labeled in lumped together, but far left elements of that
entire swath of population may have encouraged him. Was there
a plot, was something amiss or a foot perhaps, but
to implicate members of the Turning Point USA team as
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being in on the hill, that's what Candice Owonan's is doing,
and that has dangerous consequences because she has a rather
large platform and following of people, idiots who contribute money
to her and subscribe to her podcast whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So you want to put these people back in the
box where they've been creeping from.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I don't care what box you're in, but just know
that your words are very powerful, and we are human.
My team are not machines, and they're not robots. They
are human. We have more death threats on our team
and our side than I have ever seen. I have
kidnapping threats, I have you name it, we have it.
And my poor team is exhausted. And every time they
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bring this back up, what are we supposed to do
relive that trauma all over again? They watched my husband
get murdered. I have no idea how I would have
reacted if I was there that day, and think the
good Lord that I did not have to see that happen.
But my team, they are rocked the core, So why
every single day do they have to be dragged through
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the mud, analyzed, hyper analyzed And.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
To Matt Walsh's point, and it's a good one. If
she were to grieve in private, people would say she's faking.
And she speaks publicly and tries to carry on Charlie's message,
she is criticized and scorn for that. So she's damned
if she does and damned if she doesn't. And she
answers that right here.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
The conspiracies that are out there, all of the like,
do you think that there is more of it now
because you do shine your light? I mean, did people
just expect you would just go away?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I don't know what they expected.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I don't know what they expected.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
They pick on you because of your accessories. I mean
I've seen some of it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Oh yeah, no, at this point, it's what the Conspiracy
collection get it before Christmas, Like, seriously, you will if
you want to find and pick me apart, go right ahead.
I do not care. I don't This was happening before
Charlie was murdered. Both of us have been through the
ringer of people will call you whatever they want to
call you.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
They will.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
But I have seen it first hand impact the people
that I love, and I'm done. I'm done. And if
people think that I was just going to wilt away,
I'm not going to sit in a corner and cry
and be in fetal position. This is a duty to
my husband and it's an absolute honor and I will
never back down. And so my message to them is
to stop, to stop.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And that's what we will say here on out number two.
God bless you, hold up your book.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Stop in the name of God.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Amen here here Charlie Kirk married the right woman. She
is fierce, she is a warrior, and she's continuing the
fight on behalf of Turning Point USA to carry on
her husband's message and legacy.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Matt Walsh also pointed this out and has drawn a
tremendous amount of criticism, and justifiably so. He says, the
Left went out looking for their own Joe Rogan, and
they seem to have settled on a repulsive hobgoblin with
the charm of a corporate hr manager, the facial dexterity
of a stroke victim, and the IQ of a squid. Ooh,
good choice, guys, I'm sure this will work out well.
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This is Jennifer Welch from the I've Had a podcast,
no soul whatsoever, a complete and total ghoul.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
She's abundantly aware of when you talk about women and poverty,
that black and brown women stick off the charts more
so than white women. This is an intentional attack on
poor women. And this is a dehumanization, all done in
the name of her Lord and savior, Jesus Christ, which
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is the exact opposite of what the central character of
the faith of Christianity preached against.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I love when these non believers, and I'm going to
bet my money that Jennifer Welch is no Christian herself,
does not attend church, does not believe in Jesus as
the Son.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Of God, but has a lot to say about what
it means.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
So this is intentional weaponization of her gender and her faith.
And this she is a grifter. And just look at
the costume changes. Look at the costume change, just look
at the affect and how she does that.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
It's wild.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
This woman sho'd be kicked to the curb. She is
an absolute grifter, just like Donald Trump, and just like
her unrepentant, racist, homophobic husband was.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Wow, I mean, I don't throw the sea word around.
But if the shoe fits, could you imagine attacking any.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Widow this way?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Have you ever heard of a widow attacked this way?
That they go after Jackie, Oh, Jackie Kennedy at the time,
this way, a widow whose husband was murdered in broad
daylight for all to see.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
This is how we treat such a person. If it
were the widow.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Of a far left activist who I didn't like very much,
there is nothing that would ever cross my mind, nor
words that were ever leave my lips, that would speak
of that individual's widow in such a disparaging way.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
It is disgraceful. It is it's ugly, it is evil,
it is wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Erica Kirk in her own words today, I'm so glad
she has chosen to speak out publicly, because what other
choices she have at this point breaking we're back more
after this. I don't think Jennifer Welch is gonna change
her evil ways. She is adorned to it, and it
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is adorned to her these evil ways. According to the
text line of five seven seven thirty nine, and this
texture begins, Jennifer Welch would have aborted the baby Jesus.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, there you go an inconvenience.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So a method of birth control virgin Mary had to
cause some tension there. Joseph's like, what happened here? It's
a immaculate conception. What do you want me to tell you? Well,
let's go to Bethlehem and find any in the baby
can be born in a manger. Not a democrat say it.
I just short circuit that right now, take care of it,
nip it in the bud. Ryan, agree with you regarding
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Candas Owens. And I will tell you because I know
a lot of people that this happens to. She was
good before she married and became really rich. They forget
where they came from. They are the worst of the worst.
Thank you for bringing this up.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I had my suspicions and doubts about Candace Owens from
the get go, and then.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
There are aspects of her story.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
She was a far left liberal activist as a very
young person, and maybe she saw the light.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I always want to extend benefit of the doubt status
and the kind of latitude that an individual can change
and evolve, and perhaps that she did. But the more
that I watched of her, especially when she would have
her little hits appearances on Tucker. The more I left
was left thinking and walked away going why why is
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she a thing? Why does she matter? What is she
really saying here? What is she contributing to the conversation
or analysis? I didn't see it. That was then she
has gotten worse. Text her to your point. You're exactly right,
but she's always been mediocre at best and pretty bad
out of the gate.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Ryan, you mentioned the C word again.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I don't throw that around. I have to take credit
for this one because I came up with the years ago.
I would say she's a quote bitch with a capital C.
Oh the season the word though, Okay, I got it.
Smiley faced emoji.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
This program is rated PG thirteen, by the way, I
rated it that it's that the Motion Picture Association of America.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I just want to.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Warn you sometimes the language can get a little bit spicy.
But I, you know, I stay away from the big
ones and I use initials. Ryan, why don't I remember
anyone celebrating after the death of RBG or Jimmy Carter
or any other liberal lefty Because two things. One, most
of us can't say all you say. Most most of
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us who are right of center, have some class, decorum, dignity.
Wanted to acknowledge that Jimmy Carter, while I failed president,
was an American hero who served our country in the Navy.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
During World War Two, a great.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Humanitarian, habitat for humanity, seemed like a decent human, peanut farmer,
modest upbringing. There's a lot of things to admire about
Jimmy Carter. He was not a good president. You can
say that. That can be part of the analysis. But
anybody that would spike the football and celebrate the death
of Jimmy Carter, you are off in your mentally ill.
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And that's the other part. Let's say there are elements
of the far right, and I think I've seen some
of these in dark corners. Let's just say, for whatever
reason they were getting, you know, really worked up over
the death of Jimmy Carter and celebrating it and using
my analogy, spiking the football. I would call that out.
I'm not going to stand for that. It's not appropriate,
it's not right. And with Ruth Bader Ginsburg go back
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in time, I don't pull this sound. After the break,
President Trump was at a rally, he was campaigning when
this happened.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Back in twenty twenty, and it.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Was so fitting and so sweet that Elton John's Tiny
Dancer was playing as he approached Trump Force one and
he was informed of Justice Ginsberg's death, and he had
a very pitch perfect at the moment on Q response
which spoke highly of her and her place and history.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So even Donald Trump, who's.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Criticized, you know, for ing crass and insensitive and a
name caller and a brawler, and he's all.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Those things, he's all those things.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Even in that moment, that man found the decency to
say something nice and respectful about Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Well,
trying to find something nice and respectful to say about
so called health experts that you know, they can't define
what a woman is, but if they did, they will
say they'll stand by her right to have an abortion
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up until the moment of birth, even if the mother
is healthy and the pending baby is healthy, fetus.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
In the womb, whatever word you want to slap on it.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Should an elective abortion procedure be legal and available to
a woman up to and including the moment of birth,
without exception, without any kind of qualification. That is the
law here in Colorado now the left will come back with, well,
that never happens, or it's such a rare occurrence that
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it's not even worth having a conversation about.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
It's between a woman and her doctor.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
What if a woman finds a doctor Frankenstein, Well like
that resides in Boulder, I might add, there's one of
those that prides himself I'm performing late term abortions. Nothing
wrong with the baby, mind you, Nothing wrong with the baby,
just a method of birth control. It's an inconvenience. I
don't want to pay for this baby. I can't afford it.
Those are all legitimate reasons why because it's not outlined
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in the law that, well, okay, you can't go ahead
and bash the baby's brains in and suck them out
with a vacuum just because you want to.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
You have to have an underlying reason.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
There has to be some kind of complication, abnormality, defect
life of the mother, that sort of thing that is
not in the Colorado law. You can have an abortion
through the ninth month up to the moment of delivery
for any reason or for no reason at all. And
listen to this edition of by You Bits of Wisdom.
(25:33):
Senator John Kennedy our favorite for a reason.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
You gotta hear this.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
It's time to head to Cajun Creole Country with Louisiana
Republican Senator John Kennedy for today's installment of By You
Bits of Wisdom.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
It's legal in Vermont, New Jersey, Oregon, Colorado, New Mexico, Alaska,
and the District of Columbia, and the lining wing of
the Democratic Party supports abortion up to the moment of birth.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
So do you support that or opposing I don't think.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Let me say, I'm here to talk about the economics
of abortion, and I want you ask me a question.
Is a person which I'll answer as a person, can
you tell me I will tell you as a person
that I have ambivalence about abortion. I will tell you
as a person I haven't personally had an abortion. And
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I will also tell you as a person looking at
the evidence around me and understanding how come flex the
decisions are that people face. I'm just simply uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I got to move on.
Speaker 8 (27:06):
Answer question I swomen and their health care providers.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
It's real simple.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
You either support abortion for a healthy mother and baby
up to the moment of birth, and you don't. And
I don't think it's a difficult question. How about you, doctor,
do you support if the mother is healthy and the
baby's healthy, do you support abortion up to the moment
of birth?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
So, Senator, you're using really inflammatory language to talk about
a medical procedure, and it's not a simple yes or
no not to mention. When you make statements like that,
you're erasing the grief and the trauma that my piece.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
You're not going to answer my question either or it's
not a question. I think I know your answer. Do
you support it being legal to abort an unborn child
up to the moment of birth?
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Senator Kennedy, It is not a yes or no question.
I support women like missus Zerowski women.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
On no, ma'am, I don't.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
I think it is yes and no question.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Well, let me say if there were.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Am all, that's I'm just trying to understand your perspective,
and I'm not accusing you of this, of course, but
but you know, people sort of talk around this issue.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
If there were a bill.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
That said that a woman has an unfettered right to
aboord an unshot unborn baby for any reason up to
the moment of birth, would you vote yes or would
you vote no?
Speaker 9 (28:49):
Senator Kennedy, I refuse to be shackled by your question.
What I have answered is that there are conditions.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
That would vote yes or no.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
There can editions during pregnancy that need after ten weeks no,
I said on weeks twenty, for a week, you would
miss Rowski.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
You're here advocating. I would support her life.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
You I would support You're advocating a law.
Speaker 9 (29:18):
I support her personal advocating.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Law that says that an unborn baby can be aborted
up to the moment of birth for any reason.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
Are you not let me clarify what the fourteenth Amendment
says in the first sentence that citizens of this United
States are individuals that are born. That is what our
constitution says. But you support.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Question, Professor.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
I'm not trying to argue. I just want to understand
what your position is, and I think you're afraid to
say that you do support that. If you do support it,
I thank you just for the purpose of an intellectual discussion.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
You are just say.
Speaker 9 (29:58):
Show her purpose is of an intellectual discussion. I'm happy
to have that with you.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
But to answer, because you answer my question, do you
support please?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I mean you teach?
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Okay, I'm sure you've in the student session this question.
Do you support do you support making it legal to
report an onborn.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Baby for any reason? Any reason?
Speaker 7 (30:21):
However, up to the moment before.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
Perfect Senator, let's have that intellectual discussion.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
That you can want.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
We could start if you'd answer that question. I can't
go to my next question. You answer that question.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
I want you to be able to go to your
second answer questions. I do, but as I have explained,
there are many different conditions.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
No, I said, discussion, no conditions. I'm making it easy
for it.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
Well, I have already shared with you, Senator that I support.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
I don't want to use all my time. You're not
going to answer, and that you're right, but I would.
I would respect you more if you just say.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
Here, I'm sorry that you don't respect.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Me, but I shaid I respect you more if you
answer my questions.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
But of course they cannot answer the question because answering
the question incriminates them in denying the personhood her word
of the developing infant in the womb. Now, this is
the part of the fourteenth Amendment abortion rights active at sight,
and I want you to hear it.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Section one.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United
States and of the state wherein they reside. No State
shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the
privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States. Nor
shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or
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property without due process of law, nor deny to any
person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
This is the portion of the Constitution abortion rights advocates
have cited that protected a woman's right to abortion. I
don't know how they got there through a logical leap
in the Roe v. Way decision. Many legal scholars agree
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with my stance on that, and she's answering the question
by giving that answer on the Constitution. She said all
persons born or naturalized, So if you're not born yet,
you have no rights. That's her take, but she knows
that by saying that out loud, that's not going to
play very well in Peoria or in Peblau. A time
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out back to wrap up our first hour.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
After this.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
To the text line, we go closing out our first
hour five seven, seven, three nine, Ryan, when we have
a president that lacks the traits you mentioned, class, dignity,
and decorum, and shows the world he approves of bullying
and using disgusting language. What do you think is going
to happen? Well, two parts to that. First, if you
think it's so awful, why would you want your side
to imitate it, wouldn't you want to rise above and be.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Better than that? Or you want to roll in the
mud with the pigs as you would state.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Second, late, I will harken back to this dignity, class decorum.
This was President Trump immediately upon being informed of the
passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
She just died.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
I just told you me not for the first time.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
She led an amazing life. What else can you say?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
She was an amazing woman, whether you would read or not,
she was an amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Woman who led an amazing life.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Said to hear that I have said to you that,
Thank you very much.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
De.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I mean, just so perfect because Ruth Bader Ginsburg of
the dominative woman, tiny dancer Elton John in the background there.
Elton John doesn't hate Donald Trump, by the way, finds
him amusing when he calls Kim Jong Un little rocketman,
and find me the liberal elected or otherwise that will
say words even that nice about Donald Trump the day
that he passes on. You won't find one. They won't
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be able to do it. They won't be able to
muster the class or courage. They won't be able to
resist their Trump derangement syndrome. And yet very kind words.
A political adversary on the Supreme Court was Ruth Bader
Ginsburg to President Trump and his interests, and yet not
one negative word.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
So Texter, you are exactly wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
We'll take this break, more of your text and much
more to come straight ahead right here on six point
thirty k out
With Erica Kirk sharing her journey with America and the world.
We are grateful at Fox to have her here to
shine a light on healing as we all miss and
more in the loss of her beloved Charlie Kirk. Not
all of her journey has been without well, hate, conspiracies,
and oddly speculation about where her husband is buried. Now,
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for the first time, Erica, Who's with me now addresses
all of it from the perspective of a grieving widow,
a mom, and a battle tested American. Good to see
you again today. Talk to me about this part of
the conspiracies that are out there, this disturbing part that
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people are trying to guess where Charlie is.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Can I have one thing? Can I have one thing?
Can my children have one thing? Everything was public. We
will be building the most beautiful memorial for my husband
at Turning Point, USA, and it will be for the
world to see, and it will be spectacular and it
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will have a basically museum style for our Charlie from
my Charlie. But can I have one thing? Can my
babies have one thing? Where we hold it sacred, where
my husband is laid to rest, Where I don't have
to be worried about some secular revolutionary coming and destroying
my husband's grave. Well, my daughter is sitting there praying
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one thing that this is my husband. Yes he was
Charlie Kirk to the world, and I know so many
people love my husband, and I am grateful for that,
but this is my husband. And I want to be
able to have one thing left that is sacred to
our family, to my in laws, to my babies, and
to my parents one thing.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Today marks three months to the day that Charlie Kirk
was assassinated on a college campus in Utah, at Utah
Valley University just outside of Orum, Utah, where I traveled
many times as the playby play announcer for the Buildings
Mustangs and the Pioneer League of Baseball and the Oorum
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Owls with a Z would relocate here to Colorado.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
As I understand it, they played right on the campus there.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I've been there, and three months ago today Charlie Kirk
was murdered there. Erica Kirk appearing on Fox News this morning.
I believe she was on Fox and Friends Outnumbered and
she was talking with Harris Faulkner there and the reason
I want to address this not just because it marks
three months to the day that Charlie was murdered. I'm
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sick and tired of these grifters, these conspiracy theorists, and
I will name them. She doesn't, I will. Candice Owens
is a toxic cancer. She is a grifter, has been
a grifter, a liar, a charlatan, a fraud. She was
propped up for many years on Tucker Carlson's program, and
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that was one aspect of his show at that time,
which I lauded and watched every night like a lot
of you did, but tolerated her appearances because just below
the surface, I couldn't understand what she offered, what she
brought to the table, from a depth of knowledge standpoint,
from an analysis standpoint, from a life experience standpoint, Why
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did she matter?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And then Daley Wyer hired her in the.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Worst move that Ben Shapiro has ever made in his illustrious, celebrated,
rightly so career. And I believe that we on the
right fell into the trap that the left set for us,
and really the left set for themselves by adhering to
their woke ideological boxes to check.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And she happened to be a black woman, and oh
she's one.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Of us, and ooh she's a black woman, and we
need to elevate her and give her a platform. Really
why Other than what I just said, She is sophomoric
in her intellect. She is idiotic in her take on
Israel and the Jewish faith, in particular dangerously so, I
might add. And now she is fueling and fanning the
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flames of these completely whack adoodle conspiracy theories regarding Charlie's death,
and she is profiting from it.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
She is nothing short of evil, and I don't say
that lightly.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But it's time that we who are right of center
call out those on our own side who are obstacles
to our own goals and our own cause she's terrible.
We'll get into more of what Erica Kirk had to say.
I feel so awful for her, But Candace Owns is
not alone. There are a lot of fellow grifters that
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are trying to ride her coattails into the sunset by
getting clicks and likes and views and subscriptions and dollars
and whatever else that motivates them. This from the patriotic blonde,
whoever the hell she is, and it's a photo of
Erica Kirk smiling with two thumbs up, and it's entitled
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The Epitome of Grief in Quotes, Grief in Quotes, Thank
God for Matt Walsh. I can only imagine what the
conversations behind the scenes at Daily Wire and Nashville, Tennessee
are like between him now he's a Catholic and Ben Shapiro,
a Jewish Man, an Orthodox Jew who hired Candice in
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the first place.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
That divorce was extremely.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Messy, and if I was on Ben's team, I would
have done probably what Matt Walsh did. I'm just speculating now,
but I think I'm guessing correctly and behind What the
hell are we doing here? We're ruining and tarnishing our
brand with her. Get her the hell out of here.
And I would ask Ben, why did you hire her
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in the first place? What did you think you were getting?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
So Walsh goes ham hard as a Jesse knows.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
On this post by again the patriotic blonde, And I'm
not even going to give you the handle because I
don't want her to gain followers. This kind of thing
is so effing stupid, Except he didn't say fing a
whole word. And I'm sick of it? Have you idiots,
never been around a grieving person before? Have you morons,
never in your life known anyone who was mourning. It's
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very common for grieving family members who smile in all
caps at the funeral, let alone three months later. They
smile when they remember happy moments with their loved one,
They smile at the kindness showed to them by others,
or they smile for a thousand other reasons because they're
human beings, and humans are capable of experiencing a range
of emotions on any given day. What do you expect
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that she's going to only frown and cry every second
of the day for the next ten years, and when
she does cry, you accuse her of faking that too.
It's almost like you're determined to hate this woman no
matter what, for reasons that I can't possibly understand.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's sick. I'm tired of it. What the f is
wrong with you? People?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Just waiting for any opportunity to dunk on a grieving widow.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You sick freaks. Bravo.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Matt Walsh. Mary Catherine Ham as well. She was a
widow herself. Her husband died tragically in a car accident
and she is quote posting Yashar Ali, who's got credibility.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Issues of his own. We won't get into those.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That's irrelevant to this, but from a post yesterday, he says,
it feels like today will finally be the day. Candace
Owens tells her dedicated and loyal followers, and it's a
series of posts that she is breadcrumbing. I'm sorry if
you follow this woman, you are a moron and it's
time that you had to come to Jesus meeting. And
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I'm here to advocate for that for you. I'm doing
this for you, for your own benefit, for your own good.
She is trash, she is garbage. I'm gonna go full
Donald Trump here and use that because it needs to
be clearly stated.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
She's the worst.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
So this series of posts that she has at real
Candice Owens, I don't even know if this is TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, ax, whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I'll just read them in order.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yesterday was the Feast of the Immaculate Conception in Catholic world,
that's a day of holy obligation. So as soon as
my podcast ended, I raced over to church for Mass.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
We continue.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I distinctly prayed for a final piece, meaning piece to
the puzzle, not peace on earth. I prayed for God
to give me a piece to the Charlie Kirk mystery
that would be a nail in the coffin and expose
the cover up. I went home, had a late dinner,
went up to lay in my daughter's bed for fifteen
minutes before going down to mine, and thought, quote, I'll
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just check the tips inbox. She's got an inbox for
tips about who conspired to kill Charlie Kirk. And wasn't
members of his own team at Turning Point USA? Were
they in on it? Continuing with her now, Candace Owans,
it was the first email I opened. I genuinely cannot
see this as anything other than an immediately answered prayer
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using God as part of your grift. Oh there's nothing
that boils my blood more than that, and she's not
the only example. I'll leave it at that for now.
A story from a man in the military that is
about to blow this case open.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Ooh, are you the Warren Commission? Candace? Is this Lee
Harvey Oswald was a Patsy? Is this where you're going
with it?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Finally, from Candace Owens, it feels like today will be
the day that the government can no longer deny it.
Charlie Kirk was assassinated and our military was involved. I
can't wait to share this information with you guys today.
Did she share that today?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Of course not.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Back to Erica Kirk on Fox News earlier today with
Harris Faulkner.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
What are they taking from you right now?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But I will tell you what they are doing. It
reminds me so much of Chapter six in the Book
of Nehemiah. He is building a wall, and the townspeople
are at the base of that hill, saying me Amiah,
calling him all these names, saying all these things, come
on down. Every single time he had the same message,
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four times in a row. I cannot come down. I
am busy building. That is how I feel. I do
not have time to address the noise. My silence does
not mean that I am complacent. My silence does not
mean that somehow turning point USA and all of the
handpicked step that loved my husband and my husband loved
them is somehow in on it. We are busy building,
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And you know what I thought. I thought these people
are human. We're all grieving in our own way, and
they are trying to find the answer to something that
happened that was so evil. They are trying so hard,
and I get that we're doing the same. Anytime we
hear a lead, or anytime we hear anything, we send
it to the authorities. Please dig into this. No rock
(11:22):
will be unturned. I want justice from my husband, for myself,
for my family more than anyone else out there.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Erica Kirk with Harris Faulkner talking about her team, and
she gets very defensive about those team members and what
they are facing here. She says, bring all you want
in terms of criticism and scrutiny of me, but she
does draw the line somewhere.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So for me, you want to keep telling me to
come down while we're building, I don't have time for that.
But here's my breaking point on that. Come after me,
call me names, I don't care, call me what you want,
go down that.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Rabbit hole, whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But when you go after my family, my turning point,
USA family, my Charlie kirkshow family. When you go after
the people that I love, and you're making hundreds and
thousands of dollars every single episode.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
She's talking about Candace Owans.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
By the way, going after the people that I love,
because somehow they're in on this.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
No, you know, I have to say it. I've never
seen you like that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
No, I'm very This is righteous anger because this is
not okay. It's not healthy. This is a mind virus. Yes,
I believe in our judicial system.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I do.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We have a hell of a team working on this.
Excuse my French, but this is not okay.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I think that's the kindest explanation for candis owns is
that she would have a mind virus and she's a
complete idiot. But the cynic in me even goes as
far as to think that she does not believe her
own bs. She's high on her own supply, that's true.
She's telling herself a lie until she believes that that's true.
She's telling her followers that same lie until they believe
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it that's true. But she knows this theory isn't true
Tyler Robinson, as unexciting as it might seem, acted alone,
perhaps with the encouragement of far left elements, the trans community,
elements within that so called community. I don't want to
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label or lump them all together, because they're not all
labeled in lumped together, but far left elements of that
entire swath of population may have encouraged him. Was there
a plot, was something amiss or a foot perhaps, but
to implicate members of the Turning Point USA team as
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being in on the hill, that's what Candice Owonan's is doing,
and that has dangerous consequences because she has a rather
large platform and following of people, idiots who contribute money
to her and subscribe to her podcast whatever.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So you want to put these people back in the
box where they've been creeping from.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I don't care what box you're in, but just know
that your words are very powerful, and we are human.
My team are not machines, and they're not robots. They
are human. We have more death threats on our team
and our side than I have ever seen. I have
kidnapping threats, I have you name it, we have it.
And my poor team is exhausted. And every time they
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bring this back up, what are we supposed to do
relive that trauma all over again? They watched my husband
get murdered. I have no idea how I would have
reacted if I was there that day, and think the
good Lord that I did not have to see that happen.
But my team, they are rocked the core, So why
every single day do they have to be dragged through
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the mud, analyzed, hyper analyzed And.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
To Matt Walsh's point, and it's a good one. If
she were to grieve in private, people would say she's faking.
And she speaks publicly and tries to carry on Charlie's message,
she is criticized and scorn for that. So she's damned
if she does and damned if she doesn't. And she
answers that right here.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
The conspiracies that are out there, all of the like,
do you think that there is more of it now
because you do shine your light? I mean, did people
just expect you would just go away?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I don't know what they expected.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I don't know what they expected.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
They pick on you because of your accessories. I mean
I've seen some of it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Oh yeah, no, at this point, it's what the Conspiracy
collection get it before Christmas, Like, seriously, you will if
you want to find and pick me apart, go right ahead.
I do not care. I don't This was happening before
Charlie was murdered. Both of us have been through the
ringer of people will call you whatever they want to
call you.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
They will.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
But I have seen it first hand impact the people
that I love, and I'm done. I'm done. And if
people think that I was just going to wilt away,
I'm not going to sit in a corner and cry
and be in fetal position. This is a duty to
my husband and it's an absolute honor and I will
never back down. And so my message to them is
to stop, to stop.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And that's what we will say here on out number two.
God bless you, hold up your book.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Stop in the name of God.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Amen here here Charlie Kirk married the right woman. She
is fierce, she is a warrior, and she's continuing the
fight on behalf of Turning Point USA to carry on
her husband's message and legacy.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Matt Walsh also pointed this out and has drawn a
tremendous amount of criticism, and justifiably so. He says, the
Left went out looking for their own Joe Rogan, and
they seem to have settled on a repulsive hobgoblin with
the charm of a corporate hr manager, the facial dexterity
of a stroke victim, and the IQ of a squid. Ooh,
good choice, guys, I'm sure this will work out well.
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This is Jennifer Welch from the I've Had a podcast,
no soul whatsoever, a complete and total ghoul.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
She's abundantly aware of when you talk about women and poverty,
that black and brown women stick off the charts more
so than white women. This is an intentional attack on
poor women. And this is a dehumanization, all done in
the name of her Lord and savior, Jesus Christ, which
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is the exact opposite of what the central character of
the faith of Christianity preached against.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I love when these non believers, and I'm going to
bet my money that Jennifer Welch is no Christian herself,
does not attend church, does not believe in Jesus as
the Son.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Of God, but has a lot to say about what
it means.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
So this is intentional weaponization of her gender and her faith.
And this she is a grifter. And just look at
the costume changes. Look at the costume change, just look
at the affect and how she does that.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
It's wild.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
This woman sho'd be kicked to the curb. She is
an absolute grifter, just like Donald Trump, and just like
her unrepentant, racist, homophobic husband was.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Wow, I mean, I don't throw the sea word around.
But if the shoe fits, could you imagine attacking any.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Widow this way?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Have you ever heard of a widow attacked this way?
That they go after Jackie, Oh, Jackie Kennedy at the time,
this way, a widow whose husband was murdered in broad
daylight for all to see.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
This is how we treat such a person. If it
were the widow.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Of a far left activist who I didn't like very much,
there is nothing that would ever cross my mind, nor
words that were ever leave my lips, that would speak
of that individual's widow in such a disparaging way.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
It is disgraceful. It is it's ugly, it is evil,
it is wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Erica Kirk in her own words today, I'm so glad
she has chosen to speak out publicly, because what other
choices she have at this point breaking we're back more
after this. I don't think Jennifer Welch is gonna change
her evil ways. She is adorned to it, and it
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is adorned to her these evil ways. According to the
text line of five seven seven thirty nine, and this
texture begins, Jennifer Welch would have aborted the baby Jesus.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, there you go an inconvenience.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So a method of birth control virgin Mary had to
cause some tension there. Joseph's like, what happened here? It's
a immaculate conception. What do you want me to tell you? Well,
let's go to Bethlehem and find any in the baby
can be born in a manger. Not a democrat say it.
I just short circuit that right now, take care of it,
nip it in the bud. Ryan, agree with you regarding
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Candas Owens. And I will tell you because I know
a lot of people that this happens to. She was
good before she married and became really rich. They forget
where they came from. They are the worst of the worst.
Thank you for bringing this up.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I had my suspicions and doubts about Candace Owens from
the get go, and then.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
There are aspects of her story.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
She was a far left liberal activist as a very
young person, and maybe she saw the light.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I always want to extend benefit of the doubt status
and the kind of latitude that an individual can change
and evolve, and perhaps that she did. But the more
that I watched of her, especially when she would have
her little hits appearances on Tucker. The more I left
was left thinking and walked away going why why is
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she a thing? Why does she matter? What is she
really saying here? What is she contributing to the conversation
or analysis? I didn't see it. That was then she
has gotten worse. Text her to your point. You're exactly right,
but she's always been mediocre at best and pretty bad
out of the gate.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Ryan, you mentioned the C word again.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I don't throw that around. I have to take credit
for this one because I came up with the years ago.
I would say she's a quote bitch with a capital C.
Oh the season the word though, Okay, I got it.
Smiley faced emoji.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
This program is rated PG thirteen, by the way, I
rated it that it's that the Motion Picture Association of America.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I just want to.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Warn you sometimes the language can get a little bit spicy.
But I, you know, I stay away from the big
ones and I use initials. Ryan, why don't I remember
anyone celebrating after the death of RBG or Jimmy Carter
or any other liberal lefty Because two things. One, most
of us can't say all you say. Most most of
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us who are right of center, have some class, decorum, dignity.
Wanted to acknowledge that Jimmy Carter, while I failed president,
was an American hero who served our country in the Navy.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
During World War Two, a great.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Humanitarian, habitat for humanity, seemed like a decent human, peanut farmer,
modest upbringing. There's a lot of things to admire about
Jimmy Carter. He was not a good president. You can
say that. That can be part of the analysis. But
anybody that would spike the football and celebrate the death
of Jimmy Carter, you are off in your mentally ill.
(22:34):
And that's the other part. Let's say there are elements
of the far right, and I think I've seen some
of these in dark corners. Let's just say, for whatever
reason they were getting, you know, really worked up over
the death of Jimmy Carter and celebrating it and using
my analogy, spiking the football. I would call that out.
I'm not going to stand for that. It's not appropriate,
it's not right. And with Ruth Bader Ginsburg go back
(22:56):
in time, I don't pull this sound. After the break,
President Trump was at a rally, he was campaigning when
this happened.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Back in twenty twenty, and it.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Was so fitting and so sweet that Elton John's Tiny
Dancer was playing as he approached Trump Force one and
he was informed of Justice Ginsberg's death, and he had
a very pitch perfect at the moment on Q response
which spoke highly of her and her place and history.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So even Donald Trump, who's.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Criticized, you know, for ing crass and insensitive and a
name caller and a brawler, and he's all.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Those things, he's all those things.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Even in that moment, that man found the decency to
say something nice and respectful about Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Well,
trying to find something nice and respectful to say about
so called health experts that you know, they can't define
what a woman is, but if they did, they will
say they'll stand by her right to have an abortion
(24:02):
up until the moment of birth, even if the mother
is healthy and the pending baby is healthy, fetus.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
In the womb, whatever word you want to slap on it.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Should an elective abortion procedure be legal and available to
a woman up to and including the moment of birth,
without exception, without any kind of qualification. That is the
law here in Colorado now the left will come back with, well,
that never happens, or it's such a rare occurrence that
(24:37):
it's not even worth having a conversation about.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
It's between a woman and her doctor.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
What if a woman finds a doctor Frankenstein, Well like
that resides in Boulder, I might add, there's one of
those that prides himself I'm performing late term abortions. Nothing
wrong with the baby, mind you, Nothing wrong with the baby,
just a method of birth control. It's an inconvenience. I
don't want to pay for this baby. I can't afford it.
Those are all legitimate reasons why because it's not outlined
(25:01):
in the law that, well, okay, you can't go ahead
and bash the baby's brains in and suck them out
with a vacuum just because you want to.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
You have to have an underlying reason.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
There has to be some kind of complication, abnormality, defect
life of the mother, that sort of thing that is
not in the Colorado law. You can have an abortion
through the ninth month up to the moment of delivery
for any reason or for no reason at all. And
listen to this edition of by You Bits of Wisdom.
(25:33):
Senator John Kennedy our favorite for a reason.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
You gotta hear this.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
It's time to head to Cajun Creole Country with Louisiana
Republican Senator John Kennedy for today's installment of By You
Bits of Wisdom.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
It's legal in Vermont, New Jersey, Oregon, Colorado, New Mexico, Alaska,
and the District of Columbia, and the lining wing of
the Democratic Party supports abortion up to the moment of birth.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
So do you support that or opposing I don't think.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Let me say, I'm here to talk about the economics
of abortion, and I want you ask me a question.
Is a person which I'll answer as a person, can
you tell me I will tell you as a person
that I have ambivalence about abortion. I will tell you
as a person I haven't personally had an abortion. And
(26:53):
I will also tell you as a person looking at
the evidence around me and understanding how come flex the
decisions are that people face. I'm just simply uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I got to move on.
Speaker 8 (27:06):
Answer question I swomen and their health care providers.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
It's real simple.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
You either support abortion for a healthy mother and baby
up to the moment of birth, and you don't. And
I don't think it's a difficult question. How about you, doctor,
do you support if the mother is healthy and the
baby's healthy, do you support abortion up to the moment
of birth?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
So, Senator, you're using really inflammatory language to talk about
a medical procedure, and it's not a simple yes or
no not to mention. When you make statements like that,
you're erasing the grief and the trauma that my piece.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
You're not going to answer my question either or it's
not a question. I think I know your answer. Do
you support it being legal to abort an unborn child
up to the moment of birth?
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Senator Kennedy, It is not a yes or no question.
I support women like missus Zerowski women.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
On no, ma'am, I don't.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
I think it is yes and no question.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Well, let me say if there were.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Am all, that's I'm just trying to understand your perspective,
and I'm not accusing you of this, of course, but
but you know, people sort of talk around this issue.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
If there were a bill.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
That said that a woman has an unfettered right to
aboord an unshot unborn baby for any reason up to
the moment of birth, would you vote yes or would
you vote no?
Speaker 9 (28:49):
Senator Kennedy, I refuse to be shackled by your question.
What I have answered is that there are conditions.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
That would vote yes or no.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
There can editions during pregnancy that need after ten weeks no,
I said on weeks twenty, for a week, you would
miss Rowski.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
You're here advocating. I would support her life.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
You I would support You're advocating a law.
Speaker 9 (29:18):
I support her personal advocating.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Law that says that an unborn baby can be aborted
up to the moment of birth for any reason.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
Are you not let me clarify what the fourteenth Amendment
says in the first sentence that citizens of this United
States are individuals that are born. That is what our
constitution says. But you support.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Question, Professor.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
I'm not trying to argue. I just want to understand
what your position is, and I think you're afraid to
say that you do support that. If you do support it,
I thank you just for the purpose of an intellectual discussion.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
You are just say.
Speaker 9 (29:58):
Show her purpose is of an intellectual discussion. I'm happy
to have that with you.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
But to answer, because you answer my question, do you
support please?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I mean you teach?
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Okay, I'm sure you've in the student session this question.
Do you support do you support making it legal to
report an onborn.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Baby for any reason? Any reason?
Speaker 7 (30:21):
However, up to the moment before.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
Perfect Senator, let's have that intellectual discussion.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
That you can want.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
We could start if you'd answer that question. I can't
go to my next question. You answer that question.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
I want you to be able to go to your
second answer questions. I do, but as I have explained,
there are many different conditions.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
No, I said, discussion, no conditions. I'm making it easy
for it.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
Well, I have already shared with you, Senator that I support.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
I don't want to use all my time. You're not
going to answer, and that you're right, but I would.
I would respect you more if you just say.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
Here, I'm sorry that you don't respect.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Me, but I shaid I respect you more if you
answer my questions.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
But of course they cannot answer the question because answering
the question incriminates them in denying the personhood her word
of the developing infant in the womb. Now, this is
the part of the fourteenth Amendment abortion rights active at sight,
and I want you to hear it.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Section one.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United
States and of the state wherein they reside. No State
shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the
privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States. Nor
shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or
(31:45):
property without due process of law, nor deny to any
person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
This is the portion of the Constitution abortion rights advocates
have cited that protected a woman's right to abortion. I
don't know how they got there through a logical leap
in the Roe v. Way decision. Many legal scholars agree
(32:08):
with my stance on that, and she's answering the question
by giving that answer on the Constitution. She said all
persons born or naturalized, So if you're not born yet,
you have no rights. That's her take, but she knows
that by saying that out loud, that's not going to
play very well in Peoria or in Peblau. A time
(32:28):
out back to wrap up our first hour.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
After this.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
To the text line, we go closing out our first
hour five seven, seven, three nine, Ryan, when we have
a president that lacks the traits you mentioned, class, dignity,
and decorum, and shows the world he approves of bullying
and using disgusting language. What do you think is going
to happen? Well, two parts to that. First, if you
think it's so awful, why would you want your side
to imitate it, wouldn't you want to rise above and be.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Better than that? Or you want to roll in the
mud with the pigs as you would state.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Second, late, I will harken back to this dignity, class decorum.
This was President Trump immediately upon being informed of the
passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
She just died.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
I just told you me not for the first time.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
She led an amazing life. What else can you say?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
She was an amazing woman, whether you would read or not,
she was an amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Woman who led an amazing life.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Said to hear that I have said to you that,
Thank you very much.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
De.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I mean, just so perfect because Ruth Bader Ginsburg of
the dominative woman, tiny dancer Elton John in the background there.
Elton John doesn't hate Donald Trump, by the way, finds
him amusing when he calls Kim Jong Un little rocketman,
and find me the liberal elected or otherwise that will
say words even that nice about Donald Trump the day
that he passes on. You won't find one. They won't
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be able to do it. They won't be able to
muster the class or courage. They won't be able to
resist their Trump derangement syndrome. And yet very kind words.
A political adversary on the Supreme Court was Ruth Bader
Ginsburg to President Trump and his interests, and yet not
one negative word.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
So Texter, you are exactly wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
We'll take this break, more of your text and much
more to come straight ahead right here on six point
thirty k out
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