June 26, 2025 • 36 mins
President Trump returns to the White House from a NATO summit where the secretary general (Mark Rutte) joked about him playing the role of 'daddy' in the Iran-Israel ceasefire talks. We drop in on sound of the President touting his 'Big, Beautiful Bill' currently awaiting passage in the U.S. Senate.
Erin Lee, executive director of Protect Kids Colorado, offers her thoughts to Ryan on Wednesday's important settlement of a lawsuit by Camp IdRaHaJe against Colorado's State Department of Early Childhood on an exemption from a policy requiring accommodations for young campers identifying as the gender opposite their biological sex.
Christian camp dismisses discrimination lawsuit challenging state gender identity laws
Colorado pledges not to enforce gender identity rules for Christian children's camp after lawsuit
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Erin Lee, executive director of Protect Kids Colorado, offers her thoughts to Ryan on Wednesday's important settlement of a lawsuit by Camp IdRaHaJe against Colorado's State Department of Early Childhood on an exemption from a policy requiring accommodations for young campers identifying as the gender opposite their biological sex.
Christian camp dismisses discrimination lawsuit challenging state gender identity laws
Colorado pledges not to enforce gender identity rules for Christian children's camp after lawsuit
Child Safety Advocacy | Protect Kids Colorado | CO
Erin for Parental Rights (@Erin4Parents) / X
ProtectKidsColorado (@ProtectKidsCO) / X
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Advocates and support of private religious camps or please but
worry about a settlement between idra Hodgi and the State
Department of Early Childhood. The camp filed a lawsuit in
federal court claiming that the state denied their request to
be exempt from a policy allowing campers to use private
facilities of the opposite sex. C Deck says they never
enforced their policy on religious camps and idra Hodgi was
(00:23):
never at risk for closure.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What I find interesting is that it appears that the
CDC is trying to cover their tracks for their initial
reaction to idra Hodgi's request for an exemption.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Advocate Valerie le All tells koy's Ryan Schuling she's worried
camps have to fight in court to get exemptions from
the policy that from this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Gina Gandak, Colorado's Morning News my colleague over on KOA,
and I appreciate that attribution.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I'm kind of an auxiliary member of.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
KOA, I guess you could say, over on that side
of things, kind of the not ready for primetime players
over here on k HOW where I know Shannon has
more fun, very well aware of that fact, and he
was sending me that sound from earlier today, and I
wanted to follow up on that conversation that I had
with Valerie Leal, who's been doing tremendous work on behalf
of parental rights. And she's an advocate that's testified in
(01:15):
front of the Colorado General Assembly, and so has our
next guest, and she has fought the good fight on
the front lines as the executive director for Protect Kids Colorado.
She joins me now on Ryan Schuling Live to discuss
the camp Idra Hodgi case.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Aaron, thank you so much for your time. I know
you got a scadatal soon.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Hey, Ryan, thanks for having me and accommodating.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Absolutely always rolling out the red carpet for you. Aerin
only you, though. Don't tell anybody else, but I won't
in this instance. I think I don't want to make assumptions,
but I think you had maybe some of the same
reactions I did, and hesitations and misgivings about the response
to this lawsuit being settled the reasoning that was given.
(01:56):
Take us through how you see this with your very
jaundiced eye as I also possess.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah, Well, first of all, thank you for having Valerie
on yesterday. She is an unsung hero of the parental
rights movement in Colorado. She does so much work in
research and shows up, so I'm glad she got to
join you. I you know, this is a win for
Idra Hodgi. Good for them, they get to operate business
as usual. I understand why they would settle it out
of court for personal reason, but the problem still remains,
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and there's going to have to be secular litigation in
my opinion, because this policy still stands through the Colorado
Department of Early Childhood and there are you know, dozens,
if not hundreds of camps who are now beholden to
this policy, this rule that you must allow boys to
bunk with girls and girls to shower with boys, and
(02:46):
the problem still remains. So we've still got a big
fight ahead of us, and I hope that someone beyond
Idra Hodgie is going to take on this fight.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I want to go through the order of operations here, Aaron,
as to why I am completely lockstep with you this
and I have concerns. First of all, we go to
the title of this news story, which says Colorado pledges
not to enforce gender identity rules for Christian children's.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Camp after lawsuit. Well, there's the key right there.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So camp Idra Hodgi initially made a request for an
exemption from this policy which has been put into place
by the Colorado Department of Early Childhood Development, and yet
that was not granted.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
At that time.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Then came the lawsuit, Now comes the settlement, Then comes
Colorado Department of Early Childhood say, we were never intending
to enforce this on religious organizations like camp Idra Hadgi,
which was news to me based on the policy as
it is written and how this would apply going forward.
If we're just going to take their good word for
it and go no, no, no, no, we don't intend
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to enforce this. Just trust us and I don't trust
them arin as far as I can throw them, which
isn't very far.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
So the total gas lighting operation and their response to
the lawsuit, to this going public yesterday that I think
CBS was the first to break it. Their response to
media was very telling and that they were trying to
gaslight Idra Hodgy and say, oh, there was never a problem.
You made a mountain out of a molehill. But they
didn't just grab this out of sin air. It's my
understanding that they did receive communication from THEHC that said
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they had to abide by this new rule and so
it didn't come out of thin air, and they're just
trying to gaslight these Christian organizations. It's very similar to
the operation with thirteen twelve when they manipulated the language
and then they came back and said, see, there's no
problem here. We stripped all the bad language out. You
guys made a big stink out of nothing, and the
media ran with that talking point. It's the same thing
(04:41):
I see happening here. The problem very much still remains.
This one camp is exempt, but even the other Christian
camps now have to formally file for the exemption and
go through that process. Actually talking to val about it yesterday,
and it reminds us of this opt out verse often
situation that exists across the board. It's a mechanism that
they use, like the Healthy Kids Colorado survey for example.
(05:03):
They're serving our kids about their sexuality, and you have
the right to opt out if you know to do so.
So why wouldn't they give us the option to opt
in versus opt out. It's the same thing here. Camp
have to know to file for it, and it will
only be granted to these religious organizations, and even then
it's not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Aaron Lee joining us. She's the executive director of Protect
Kids Colorado. Find them online at protect Kidscolorado dot org.
I'll tell you what's driving me absolutely insane nuts about
all of this, because this has been litigated. It's been
relitigated erin It's been adjudicated twice at the highest court
in the land at the Supreme Court of the United
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States for Jack Phillips with Masterpiece Cake Shop, also in Colorado,
for Laurie Smith at three h three Creative, also in Colorado.
This infringement upon religious liberty, this compelled speech to acknowledge
someone else's gender identity. It's been asked, an answer and settled,
and yet here we go again. And to your point
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where I agree is this has to go a third time.
And I know Alliance Defending Freedom is representing a case
in which a field trip, a young girl was compelled
to share a hotel room on a field trip with
an individual who is a biological male identifying as female.
(06:24):
But we've got to ascertain how do they identify. We've
got to genuflec to that. How many more times, how
many more bites at the Apple. Does the pro trans
whatever lobby get before this is finally settled and we
have an answer, and there is a precedent and that
must be followed, and we can't keep going down this
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insane road.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I'm glad of bringing attention to it, but I think
it's important for people to understand that this issue of
boys invading girls' faces and vice versa is ubiquitous. It's
happening not just in camps. It's happening in schools, it's
happening in businesses. This is a white spread issue. Yes,
I'm so glad this one camp got to win, but
it's a so much more widespread issue than people realize.
I have a personal story. So my daughter who was
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secretly transitioned in school. I later learned that during her
fifth grade overnight camp week, which I guess is a
standard here in Colorado. The school district's in fifth grade
take the kids out into the woods for three to
four days and it's an overnight trip. And that's where
she learned about transgenderism, because a little girl was a
roomy in the boys bunk and she was ten years old.
This was fifth grade, and I wasn't notified. I didn't
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learn about this until years later. So this is a
problem that's happening across the board, and it needs to
be addressed so much further than just on the basis
of religious liberty. It needs to be addressed on the
basis of First and fourteenth Amendment violations of people being
compelled to do something they don't agree with or parents
being left out of the equation.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Aaron Lee joining us, Protect kids Colorado, find them online,
Protect kids Colorado. Don't org have these conversations, folks, because
what Aaron just said, this is what again insanity?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
They have this exactly backwards.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
The default position shouldn't be you must adhere to and
accede to an individual's gender identity. That's the default position
unless you, as a religious organization, make the proactive effort
to file for an exemption then receive that authority that
permission for the exemption. Aaron, what is it going to
(08:25):
take not just Colorado, but you mentioned this is elsewhere,
this is nationwide for.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Us to flip the script here and go no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The default position is there's no expectation of accommodation in
these instances on religious grounds, religious liberty grounds, freedom of speech.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You cannot compel speech or beliefs grounds.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And then therefore these laws that have been set up
you mentioned thirteen twelve, all these other ones that are
basically coercion on gender ideology, that they don't hold they
don't hold water when it comes to constitutionality.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I think the lawsuits have to continue flying. You know,
I have a personal lawsuit that's closely related my organization
faun a lawsuit against thirteen twelve. At some point they're
going to have to set a standard that these laws
cannot be passed, these unconstitutional laws. But what's unfortunate is
here Colorado yet again, same thing with Jack and Laurie
in thirteen twelve. At some point we're going to have
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to set a standard that these can't be passed to
begin with right and put us in a situation where
we have to challenge it legally. And it'll be really
interesting to see how CHC conceding on this issue plays
out with the thirteen twelve change to KUDA, because they're
very closely connected. The state is now requiring us to
go along with gender ideology, to go along with someone's
perceived gender, and so I find it hard to believe
(09:44):
that that concession won't be used in the argument against
thirteen twelve.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Eron.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'm glad you brought it up, because that's what I
want to close with. We have this Field Trip case
and Jeff co that Alliance Defending Freedom has taken up.
But you also have a case that is making its
way through the courts. Jennifer Say has a case on
behalf of xx Y Athletics. I want to make sure
that on this program, on this platform, on this station,
we continue to spotlight this issue until it's stamped out,
(10:09):
like a burning ember from a fire.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
We got to put this out.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So for the people out there that might not be
aware of what you're going through with your lawsuit, can
you give us an update on that of where it
goes from here?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah, So protectionis Colorado Filbaitude against thirteen twelve along with
Colorado Parent Advocacy Network, Do No Harm and Defending Education,
and that's working its way through the system. It's my
understanding that the state is trying to expedite the process,
So that's ongoing. I surely hope that it will have
a good resolution and I thirteen twelve is so blatantly unconstitutional.
(10:41):
I'm very hopeful about that, But then we also have
our secret school transition case that my family will be
a filing cer petition here in the next few weeks
to scotus to hopefully again set that standard that when
it comes to gender ideology, you cannot transition a child
behind the parents back. So also on that front, very
hopeful about the outcome of the case.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Follow her on x at Aaron eerim the number four
parents Aaron four parents on that platform, and then the
website you can go there for all the information the
latest protect Kids Colorado dot org. That's exactly what she's doing,
protecting all kids in Colorado, including her own. Her daughter
went through this. If you haven't seen it, check it
out YouTube. It's online art club movie and it will
(11:25):
definitely open your eyes erin thank you so much for
all that you do.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
We'll let you get off to your little trip here,
all right.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Aaron Lee five seven seventy three nine to offer up
your response your reaction. On this Thursday edition of Ryan
Schuling Live, Steven Littleton, retired law enforcement officer, offers of this,
how many of these insane laws can we attribute to
parents who voted for the very Dems who are inflicting
them upon their children. Steve here here, You're exactly right.
(11:53):
I don't think a lot of people who are not
as plugged in, let's say, as you or I, most
people in this audience.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Aaron Lee Chantan Scott, I.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Don't think they really think this through as to what
they're voting for. You know, Dan tries to offer this
daylight on his program. Oh they are good Democrats. There
are moderate Democrats. They don't really feel this way. Well
that may be the case. Then they're horribly uninformed because
they are voting for this.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
This is what.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Our legislators in the Colorado General Assembly are passing. This
is the priority of those Democrats in our House and
Senate under the Golden Dome are focused on. This is
what they passed with thirteen twelve. Don't give me that bunk,
that bull crap that all they're different kind of Democrats.
They're all in on this, and they're either complicit or
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they're ignoring it intentionally. And they're intentionally or ostensibly obtuse
on this, ignorant of this, and it's incumbent upon them
to inform themselves, or it's incumbent upon us to inform them.
To rub their noses in it like a dog that
just made a mess in the living room floor to
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do this, because we don't have their arrested attention on
this matter. It's obvious because it's an eighty twenty issue.
People do not feel that kids should be trans operated upon,
injected with drugs and hormones, have their puberties blocked, not
develop their bones, muscle, lung capacity, set them up for
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future problems with health in life. Remove any kind of
satisfaction pleasure from the sexual experience because of the transition
that takes place. This is mutilation. This is frankin science,
this is insanity. It has no basis in any faith
if you're looking at it from the religious standpoint, and
it has no basis in any science if you're looking
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at it from the secular standpoint.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
This is a.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Violation of both of those sets of ethos. This is
only a deranged kind of ideology philosophy based on power
and control. To remove that from parents. Bottom line, end
of sentence period.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
And if you doubt me, do your own research and
you will find that is the only conclusion that you
can draw.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
So miss me with this.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, some democrats, they all do either implicitly or complicitly.
They're in on it, and it's time we put our
foot down and stop it.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
This is wrong. When we have the likes of jk Rowling.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Of Jennifer Say, Martina Navratalova, all on the same side
of the issue, with everybody on the right of the
political spectrum. This is a winning issue and it has
to be a winning issue. It's not just about politics here.
This is about saving our kids from this madness. Because
here's the other part of it. This path, this primrose path,
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does not lead to happiness for the kids or in
many cases for the adults. There are trans individuals who
have gender dysphoria, and maybe they choose in their adult
years to go through whatever processes they can to present
as the opposite sex. I want individuals on a libertarian
basis to have their rights respected, to be granted that
(15:13):
kind of level of respect, but they do not get
to inflect their beliefs on anyone else, just as is
in when we reverse engineer this. We cannot exact religious
beliefs on anyone else, simply because we have the faith
in them. This is the religion of the left, many
of them, most of them, if not close to all
(15:34):
of them are atheistic and they rely on this. Governor
Jared Poulis credo the Dan sites often when he was
first sworn in. You have to leave your religion at
the door when you enter the arena of political theater.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
No, no, no, no, no no, because that what does that do?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That removes those of us who have faith based programs, businesses, families.
We have to check our faith at the door. But
guess what their faith is? This crap that is their ideology,
That is their religion. It might not be defined or
described as such by them, but it's a belief system.
(16:17):
It is based on an intrinsic kind of faith that
they have.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
That this is the way to go.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
This atheistic, amoral, anti religion is a religion.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Don't let them tell you otherwise.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Secular atheism is a religion, and they get to bring
it into the arena so they get to play with
a full deck of cards. We got to leave our cards.
No no, we're not gonna play that way, not gonna
do it.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
More Tex five seven seven thirty nine. That so, what's funny? Ryan?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Please don't associate yourself with the TDS plague talent and
staff at KOA. I don't want to have to stop
listening to you should you become indoctrinated by them.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
And there's a mention of Marty Lens there. I like Marty.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Marty has a set of beliefs, and that's fine, So
do I, so do I, And I think I don't know.
I think Marty's pretty upfront about it. At least he
is with me. I don't get to listen to him
a lot because I'm an idohol honey, sleep all day long,
not all day along, just into the morning and usually
past their show. But my whole thing is we live
in a world now where it's very difficult to occupy
(17:28):
a space in which you say that you are objective
in your reporting and how you go about that. I
think it's difficult to do to just set aside any
personal beliefs that you have. Obviously I don't do that here,
and in this form, I tell you flat out where
I stand politically and otherwise, and what my beliefs are,
what I think, And I think that transparency lends itself
(17:51):
to credibility. And I make this point all the time.
If somebody is of the left, that's fine, that's fine,
Just say that you are. Just say that you are
and that's where you're coming from, and this is your
ideological and editorial perspective, and then people can make up
their own minds from there. But they don't do that.
They try to present, Oh, I'm shooting it down the middle.
I'm objective, right, you know, and that's not how it is.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
We know that. I will say this.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I think my good friend and colleague Rob Dawson is
doing an amazing job. He has just taken over his
news director at KOA for the great Kathy Walker, who
is entering a well earned retirement, at least semi retirement.
She was just in here today. She's coming back in
like for cameos. But he does make an effort. I'll
tell you this right up front, and I would tell
you otherwise if that was the case. But Rob is
(18:37):
an old school throwback journalistic reporter and his politics might be,
i don't know, slightly left of center, but he's not
rabidly anti Trump. He doesn't use that as his motivation
for what stories they cover and what stories they don't.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
He wants to get it right and he wants to.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Present the news, you know, kind of like an umpire
call balls and strikes left right, middle, Okay, we're going
to cover it.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
So I think Rob does a great job and I
would ask for you to give him a chance in
terms of running that news department. And he works in
concert with me. He's always asking me questions, getting my input,
and I really appreciate and respect him for that. Lots
of text still to get to. We have some hot takes.
One installment from Donald Trump coming back.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Who's your daddy? I think you know he's your father.
Just come on home a time out. We're back with
Maryan schuling live.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
After this, It's time once again for another edition of
Trump's hot takes, charting the forty seventh president's epic interactions
with the fake news media.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
The NATO chief is your friend. He called you daddy.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah to you regard your NATO allies as kind of children.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Now he likes me.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I think he likes me.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
If he doesn't, I'll let you know I've come back
and I'll hit him hard. Okay, it did very affectionate.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
He's daddy, You're my daddy. A couple of things.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
One this reporter, I love her accent. And a lot
of times President Trump will comment, you have.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
A beautiful accent.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
It's it's really nice, but I can't understand you, but
this one, of course he could.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
But in her instance, I think I'm one that from my.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Ringtone you think of the daddy like, oh, I like that,
I'm a fan.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And then President Trump kind of mischaracterizes, I think, largely, bigly,
exactly what Monk Ruta said the NATO Secretary General. Have
you noticed a lot of these awesome dudes are coming
from Holland, the Netherlands, like the current Dutch Prime Minister
and now the NATO Secretary General. He's Dutch and they're
(20:45):
pretty based, to use the term the kids like these days,
like based John Fetterman based.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Federman that we play on this program. Here is what
he said. I don't think it says Trump quite characterized.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
You're my daddy, You're my favorite dad.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I'm gonna get you a Father's Day card.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
I mean I do.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Papers on it, Marco.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Maybe we're going to do papers. I don't even know
if you need them.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
They're not going to be fighting each other that they've
had it. They've got a big fight like two kids
at a school yard. You know, they fight like hell,
you can't stop them. Let him fight for about two
three minutes. Then it's easy to stop them.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
And then daddy has to sometimes language and everyone said,
all you have to use a certain word.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I think after all he was doing mark route. There
was following up on the analogy that Trump was using.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Sometimes the kids are fighting, you come home, you get
out the belt, you snap it.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
And he said, yeah, it's laid on the law, you know.
That's all he said.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
He wasn't like, oh, great orange one, you are our
daddy at NATO, although there is a certain implication that
they know who the sheriff is and when he comes
back into town. If you looked at the photo and
what was taken there, that alpha male energy that we
talk about, there's another term for it, that carry lake
once to use.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
We'll leave that to another time, maybe when you and
I aren't at the bar.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But he's front and center President Trump in this photo
of all the people that were ending this NATO summit.
Now he's back at the White House and the illustrious,
the very talented Shannon Scott, the Detroit connection re established
final day of that. I'm going to miss him, Shannon,
were you able to line that up for us to
roll in just to check in on Donald Trump at
the White House, the President speaking on the big beautiful bill.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Let's go to that one.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Company would have left. But they weren't business people. They
were politicians, not very good ones, and some good ones,
but some really not good at anything. To be honest
with you, we're going to stop the largest tax hike,
and we're going to do that in history. This would
be if the bill doesn't pass, there'll be a sixty
eight percent tax increase. Think of that, sixty eight percent,
(22:43):
which would be the largest in history by about forty points.
And we'll make the Trump tax cuts permanent, expand the
child tax credit, and we will deliver no tax on tips,
no tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security
for a great senior. Among the capitalst citizens who will
(23:11):
benefit from these tax cuts is Malachi Prizeski, a devoted
mom and door dash driver from Rippin' Wisconsin who uses
her tip income to support her son. To think of that,
no tax on tips, and it was a very big problem.
I was at a dinner in my beautiful building in
(23:32):
Las Vegas and unrelated to this, and I said.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Very I will never say good looking waitress because looks
don't matter anymore, you know, in our modern society. She
happened to be beautiful, but I won't say that.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I won't mention that. But nevertheless, a waitress came over
and I said, how you doing. She said, not good, sir.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Why the government is killing me on tips?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
As she looked at me, she.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Said, sir, there should be no tax on tips. I said,
head again, there should be no tax on tips. I said,
that's the coolest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I walked outside.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
The press was there, as always, waiting for something bad
to happen, hundreds of them. I said, ladies and gentlemen,
please announce tonight there will be no tax on tips.
And a legend was made. We won Nevada by so much.
Republicans don't win Nevada. We won Nevada.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
So I want to thank that.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Young beautiful waitress.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
She was beautiful. Doesn't matter, but I'm going to say it,
but I'm not going to say it.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
But with no tax on tips and other cuts, this
bill will save Malachi thousands of dollars per year, enabling
her to achieve her goal of visiting every US state
with her son, who wants to visit every state by
the time he's eighteen years old. So, Malachi, it sounds
to me like you're off to a fantastic start.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
And where are you, Malachi, where are you? Congratulations?
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Yeah, talk, yeah, thank you. Also with us today is
Luke Wilson, a twenty three year old electoral alignment He lives,
he loves being an electrician, but in this case the
alignement and these are guys that take big risk and
it's hard stuff, but if you know what you're doing,
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it's fine. He's from Harmony, Pennsylvania, as well as d
sovera truck driver from Springfield, Missouri, who where, by the way,
our beautiful planes landed, our B two's they landed after
thirty six hours of flying great Don Pepe, and.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
They hit the target, and they hit the.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Target and the target has now been proven to be obliterated,
just as we said, we had little fake news from CNN.
Thank you very much seeing that with three million miles
of driving under a belt, who mentors other women in
our industry? And I just want to say, Luke and
d spend tout hours working overtime to help make this
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country run. And this bill the typical overtime worker like
them will take home nearly fifteen hundred dollars extra every
single year, so you're talking about at least fifteen hundred
and there'll be no a harassment because you were being
harassed by the Democrats. So Luke and de congratulations to
you both.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
Congratulations having your baby especial cut.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
They've being it back now. Shannon, thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It's a good point to insert into the conversation, the
contrast between what you just heard, the big beautiful bill,
an extension of the Trump tax cuts. Now he says
making them permanent. I think you read the fine for
there's really no way to make a tax cup permanent.
Though I would enjoy that, and know many of you would.
There would be a new administration, they'll carve up their
own bill, but at least for the time being, as
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long as Donald Trump remains president and maybe his successor
be that JD. Vance or Marco Rubio or Ronde Santis.
But in the meantime, you have in New York City
a mayoral candidate that is giving you so what you
just heard. You had a waitress. She was beautiful.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
I'm not gonna say it, but she's very pretty, it
doesn't matter anymore. But maybe maybe she's good looking. Okay, shit,
I we're tired.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
He's trying to tow the line to the degree that
he had, but he can't help himself.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
And it's hilarious. Okay, let's just call it. It's funny.
He's funny. He's fun he's he makes you feel good. Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But for a waitress like he described, to keep more
of her tips his income. And there is some division
on our side with this. Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
You know? Should you have your tips be taxable income?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Well, the point I would make again is that you
have high level investors that are able to have offshore
accounts and tax shelters from certain amounts of income. And
Donald Trump pointed this out. This is what Dave Chappelle
commented on and a Saturday Night Live opening monologue that
was brilliant, of course, in the debate with Hillary Clinton,
which he says, I take advantage of the same loopholes
you do and all of your friends. The difference is
(28:02):
I'm honest about it, and I'm telling you and what
he's what he's saying is what any of us would say.
Do you want to pay more in taxes? To the
federal government than you absolutely have to know who would
otherwise donate it in your own interest out of the
goodness of your own heart, you bleeding heart liberals, and
you donate the money, go ahead and do it.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Show that you're a better person. That's what you think anyway.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
But no, there should be forcible taxation on all income
levels to establish a centralized government that will make decision
for us based on the income that they confiscate.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
How about no.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But here's Zora and Mamdani, this communist, this democratic socialist
of America talking about he knows better how to spend
our money than we do. Meaning this waitress in Nevada
or this ligneman that works over time. Should those two individuals,
working class, blue collar putting in off hours, waitress on
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her feed all night alignment dangerous work certified?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Should they keep.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
More of their take home pay or have to surrender
it to the federal government to subsidize lazy asses who
aren't working. How about no, how about we incentivize our
American workers to work harder, to work longer, to work smarter,
to keep more of their money to spend how they
want to spend it.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
No, you call.
Speaker 9 (29:28):
Yourself a democratic socialist. The word socialist, of course, has
been vilified and used to attack you specifically. How do
you define being a democratic socialist?
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I think in the words of doctor King, who decades
ago said call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.
There must be a better distribution of wealth for all
of God's children. Yes, and it gets to the heart
of the matter, which is inequality and my belief that
every New Yorker should have what they need to live
a dignified life. It shouldn't be something that they can
be priced out of. And that's why at the heart
of our campaign is this focus on free the rent
(30:00):
for more than two million rent civilized tenants, making the
slowest buses in the country fastened.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Let American workers keep more of their own money. This
is not about wealth redistribution. COMMI because you look just
like a kami and you might just be a member.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Quoting Bob Seeger.
Speaker 9 (30:22):
There are in the country about twelve hundred, you know,
people who are just wealthy beyond so what beyond anything? Right,
And the twenty five years ago there were only about
forty of them.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Oh, now there are.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
Twelve hundred people who are worth more than a billion
dollars pack.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
That's awesome.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
That has to be addressed at some point, because they're
nothing the taxes that the rest of.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Us are paying.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Yes, absolutely, and I think it gets to the heart
of the matter, which is that there is enough money
for a life of dignity for all people. It's just
a question of whether we have the political will to
ensure that money is being spent on delivering that.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
This thesis was advanced going back to two thousand and
one by one of my all time favorite duos, Tenacious D.
Here's Jack Black lyrics from City Hall when they said,
will lead his two kings after burning down city Hall,
no more.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Rich people and four people. From now on, we will
all be the same.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Even back then, Jack Black, who I think is a lefty, was.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Like, wait a minute, that might not be a good idea.
It's a terrible idea.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
This notion that the billionaires don't pay their fair share
of taxes. Go on a Ledger sheet and show exactly
how much those job creators, those wealth builders contribute to
our American economy by creating jobs and yes, by paying
a large portion of the overall income tax base.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
And what you do.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
You never tax your way into prosperity. You tax your
way into squalor. You increase the tax burden again on
these job creators, these wealth builders for Americans. A rising
tide does lift all bolts, because I tell you what's
going to happen. If Momdanie is elected mayor of New
York City, you will watch these job creators in New
York City flee. They will leave, They will go to Florida,
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they will go to Texas, they will go to Tennessee,
and New York City will be left holding the bag.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
With no tax base.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It's happened to California, it is happening here in Colorado
and Denver, and it's going to happen in New York City.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
A break.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
We're back wrapping up our number one, your tax five
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After this, you hear me.
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Speaker 4 (34:16):
Let's see, that's right, No such thing as a free launch.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
All communism socialism guarantees as a there's the lowest common denominator,
and we are all.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
At the lowest.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
You're only as strong as your weakest link in the chain,
and we're all going to be living in squalor breadlines.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
That's where it all leads.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
The Soviet Union is big, as powerful as it was,
collapsed under the weight of itself. Why because of that
squalor That is a guaranteed outcome of centralized government and socialism.
Bottom line, what capitalism provides, what the American dream provides,
is the opportunity, no guarantee. The pursuit of happiness is
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what you're afforded here, not happiness, it's person suit. The
pursuit of wealth and success is guaranteed. Whether you get
there or not, that's up to you.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
There might be forces at play that present obstacles to you,
but those that have ingenuity, creativity, dogged determination, they find
a way. That is the American spirit. That is what
we are all about, that is what we've always been about.
That's why there is so much creativity, job creation, invention,
ingenuity in this country. That sets the standard for the
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rest of the world. And I will always be proud
of that, and you should be two five seven, seven
thirty nine your text. In this final minute, I want
to touch on this and then follow up on.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
The other side.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Ryan AOC just yesterday insulted men from Queens, saying she
eats men for queens for breakfasts. You eat pieces of
bank for breakfast. No, this was in response to her
little tiff with Trump. She represents Queens, Okay, she says
she's from the Bronx. She represents Queens, but she's from
upstate New York, or at least what people who reside
(36:04):
in New York City and the Five Boroughs refer to
as anything outside of that being upstate New York.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Will explain how she's a charlatan
Speaker 3 (36:12):
About this issue when we come back our number two
launching your right in here on Ryan Shuling Live
Advocates and support of private religious camps or please but
worry about a settlement between idra Hodgi and the State
Department of Early Childhood. The camp filed a lawsuit in
federal court claiming that the state denied their request to
be exempt from a policy allowing campers to use private
facilities of the opposite sex. C Deck says they never
enforced their policy on religious camps and idra Hodgi was
(00:23):
never at risk for closure.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What I find interesting is that it appears that the
CDC is trying to cover their tracks for their initial
reaction to idra Hodgi's request for an exemption.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Advocate Valerie le All tells koy's Ryan Schuling she's worried
camps have to fight in court to get exemptions from
the policy that from this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Gina Gandak, Colorado's Morning News my colleague over on KOA,
and I appreciate that attribution.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I'm kind of an auxiliary member of.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
KOA, I guess you could say, over on that side
of things, kind of the not ready for primetime players
over here on k HOW where I know Shannon has
more fun, very well aware of that fact, and he
was sending me that sound from earlier today, and I
wanted to follow up on that conversation that I had
with Valerie Leal, who's been doing tremendous work on behalf
of parental rights. And she's an advocate that's testified in
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front of the Colorado General Assembly, and so has our
next guest, and she has fought the good fight on
the front lines as the executive director for Protect Kids Colorado.
She joins me now on Ryan Schuling Live to discuss
the camp Idra Hodgi case.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Aaron, thank you so much for your time. I know
you got a scadatal soon.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Hey, Ryan, thanks for having me and accommodating.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Absolutely always rolling out the red carpet for you. Aerin
only you, though. Don't tell anybody else, but I won't
in this instance. I think I don't want to make assumptions,
but I think you had maybe some of the same
reactions I did, and hesitations and misgivings about the response
to this lawsuit being settled the reasoning that was given.
(01:56):
Take us through how you see this with your very
jaundiced eye as I also possess.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah, Well, first of all, thank you for having Valerie
on yesterday. She is an unsung hero of the parental
rights movement in Colorado. She does so much work in
research and shows up, so I'm glad she got to
join you. I you know, this is a win for
Idra Hodgi. Good for them, they get to operate business
as usual. I understand why they would settle it out
of court for personal reason, but the problem still remains,
(02:25):
and there's going to have to be secular litigation in
my opinion, because this policy still stands through the Colorado
Department of Early Childhood and there are you know, dozens,
if not hundreds of camps who are now beholden to
this policy, this rule that you must allow boys to
bunk with girls and girls to shower with boys, and
(02:46):
the problem still remains. So we've still got a big
fight ahead of us, and I hope that someone beyond
Idra Hodgie is going to take on this fight.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I want to go through the order of operations here, Aaron,
as to why I am completely lockstep with you this
and I have concerns. First of all, we go to
the title of this news story, which says Colorado pledges
not to enforce gender identity rules for Christian children's.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Camp after lawsuit. Well, there's the key right there.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So camp Idra Hodgi initially made a request for an
exemption from this policy which has been put into place
by the Colorado Department of Early Childhood Development, and yet
that was not granted.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
At that time.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Then came the lawsuit, Now comes the settlement, Then comes
Colorado Department of Early Childhood say, we were never intending
to enforce this on religious organizations like camp Idra Hadgi,
which was news to me based on the policy as
it is written and how this would apply going forward.
If we're just going to take their good word for
it and go no, no, no, no, we don't intend
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to enforce this. Just trust us and I don't trust
them arin as far as I can throw them, which
isn't very far.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
So the total gas lighting operation and their response to
the lawsuit, to this going public yesterday that I think
CBS was the first to break it. Their response to
media was very telling and that they were trying to
gaslight Idra Hodgy and say, oh, there was never a problem.
You made a mountain out of a molehill. But they
didn't just grab this out of sin air. It's my
understanding that they did receive communication from THEHC that said
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they had to abide by this new rule and so
it didn't come out of thin air, and they're just
trying to gaslight these Christian organizations. It's very similar to
the operation with thirteen twelve when they manipulated the language
and then they came back and said, see, there's no
problem here. We stripped all the bad language out. You
guys made a big stink out of nothing, and the
media ran with that talking point. It's the same thing
(04:41):
I see happening here. The problem very much still remains.
This one camp is exempt, but even the other Christian
camps now have to formally file for the exemption and
go through that process. Actually talking to val about it yesterday,
and it reminds us of this opt out verse often
situation that exists across the board. It's a mechanism that
they use, like the Healthy Kids Colorado survey for example.
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They're serving our kids about their sexuality, and you have
the right to opt out if you know to do so.
So why wouldn't they give us the option to opt
in versus opt out. It's the same thing here. Camp
have to know to file for it, and it will
only be granted to these religious organizations, and even then
it's not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Aaron Lee joining us. She's the executive director of Protect
Kids Colorado. Find them online at protect Kidscolorado dot org.
I'll tell you what's driving me absolutely insane nuts about
all of this, because this has been litigated. It's been
relitigated erin It's been adjudicated twice at the highest court
in the land at the Supreme Court of the United
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States for Jack Phillips with Masterpiece Cake Shop, also in Colorado,
for Laurie Smith at three h three Creative, also in Colorado.
This infringement upon religious liberty, this compelled speech to acknowledge
someone else's gender identity. It's been asked, an answer and settled,
and yet here we go again. And to your point
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where I agree is this has to go a third time.
And I know Alliance Defending Freedom is representing a case
in which a field trip, a young girl was compelled
to share a hotel room on a field trip with
an individual who is a biological male identifying as female.
(06:24):
But we've got to ascertain how do they identify. We've
got to genuflec to that. How many more times, how
many more bites at the Apple. Does the pro trans
whatever lobby get before this is finally settled and we
have an answer, and there is a precedent and that
must be followed, and we can't keep going down this
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insane road.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I'm glad of bringing attention to it, but I think
it's important for people to understand that this issue of
boys invading girls' faces and vice versa is ubiquitous. It's
happening not just in camps. It's happening in schools, it's
happening in businesses. This is a white spread issue. Yes,
I'm so glad this one camp got to win, but
it's a so much more widespread issue than people realize.
I have a personal story. So my daughter who was
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secretly transitioned in school. I later learned that during her
fifth grade overnight camp week, which I guess is a
standard here in Colorado. The school district's in fifth grade
take the kids out into the woods for three to
four days and it's an overnight trip. And that's where
she learned about transgenderism, because a little girl was a
roomy in the boys bunk and she was ten years old.
This was fifth grade, and I wasn't notified. I didn't
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learn about this until years later. So this is a
problem that's happening across the board, and it needs to
be addressed so much further than just on the basis
of religious liberty. It needs to be addressed on the
basis of First and fourteenth Amendment violations of people being
compelled to do something they don't agree with or parents
being left out of the equation.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Aaron Lee joining us, Protect kids Colorado, find them online,
Protect kids Colorado. Don't org have these conversations, folks, because
what Aaron just said, this is what again insanity?
Speaker 4 (08:01):
They have this exactly backwards.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
The default position shouldn't be you must adhere to and
accede to an individual's gender identity. That's the default position
unless you, as a religious organization, make the proactive effort
to file for an exemption then receive that authority that
permission for the exemption. Aaron, what is it going to
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take not just Colorado, but you mentioned this is elsewhere,
this is nationwide for.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Us to flip the script here and go no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The default position is there's no expectation of accommodation in
these instances on religious grounds, religious liberty grounds, freedom of speech.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You cannot compel speech or beliefs grounds.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And then therefore these laws that have been set up
you mentioned thirteen twelve, all these other ones that are
basically coercion on gender ideology, that they don't hold they
don't hold water when it comes to constitutionality.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I think the lawsuits have to continue flying. You know,
I have a personal lawsuit that's closely related my organization
faun a lawsuit against thirteen twelve. At some point they're
going to have to set a standard that these laws
cannot be passed, these unconstitutional laws. But what's unfortunate is
here Colorado yet again, same thing with Jack and Laurie
in thirteen twelve. At some point we're going to have
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to set a standard that these can't be passed to
begin with right and put us in a situation where
we have to challenge it legally. And it'll be really
interesting to see how CHC conceding on this issue plays
out with the thirteen twelve change to KUDA, because they're
very closely connected. The state is now requiring us to
go along with gender ideology, to go along with someone's
perceived gender, and so I find it hard to believe
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that that concession won't be used in the argument against
thirteen twelve.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Eron.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'm glad you brought it up, because that's what I
want to close with. We have this Field Trip case
and Jeff co that Alliance Defending Freedom has taken up.
But you also have a case that is making its
way through the courts. Jennifer Say has a case on
behalf of xx Y Athletics. I want to make sure
that on this program, on this platform, on this station,
we continue to spotlight this issue until it's stamped out,
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like a burning ember from a fire.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
We got to put this out.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So for the people out there that might not be
aware of what you're going through with your lawsuit, can
you give us an update on that of where it
goes from here?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah, So protectionis Colorado Filbaitude against thirteen twelve along with
Colorado Parent Advocacy Network, Do No Harm and Defending Education,
and that's working its way through the system. It's my
understanding that the state is trying to expedite the process,
So that's ongoing. I surely hope that it will have
a good resolution and I thirteen twelve is so blatantly unconstitutional.
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I'm very hopeful about that, But then we also have
our secret school transition case that my family will be
a filing cer petition here in the next few weeks
to scotus to hopefully again set that standard that when
it comes to gender ideology, you cannot transition a child
behind the parents back. So also on that front, very
hopeful about the outcome of the case.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Follow her on x at Aaron eerim the number four
parents Aaron four parents on that platform, and then the
website you can go there for all the information the
latest protect Kids Colorado dot org. That's exactly what she's doing,
protecting all kids in Colorado, including her own. Her daughter
went through this. If you haven't seen it, check it
out YouTube. It's online art club movie and it will
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definitely open your eyes erin thank you so much for
all that you do.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
We'll let you get off to your little trip here,
all right.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Aaron Lee five seven seventy three nine to offer up
your response your reaction. On this Thursday edition of Ryan
Schuling Live, Steven Littleton, retired law enforcement officer, offers of this,
how many of these insane laws can we attribute to
parents who voted for the very Dems who are inflicting
them upon their children. Steve here here, You're exactly right.
(11:53):
I don't think a lot of people who are not
as plugged in, let's say, as you or I, most
people in this audience.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Aaron Lee Chantan Scott, I.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Don't think they really think this through as to what
they're voting for. You know, Dan tries to offer this
daylight on his program. Oh they are good Democrats. There
are moderate Democrats. They don't really feel this way. Well
that may be the case. Then they're horribly uninformed because
they are voting for this.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
This is what.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Our legislators in the Colorado General Assembly are passing. This
is the priority of those Democrats in our House and
Senate under the Golden Dome are focused on. This is
what they passed with thirteen twelve. Don't give me that bunk,
that bull crap that all they're different kind of Democrats.
They're all in on this, and they're either complicit or
(12:39):
they're ignoring it intentionally. And they're intentionally or ostensibly obtuse
on this, ignorant of this, and it's incumbent upon them
to inform themselves, or it's incumbent upon us to inform them.
To rub their noses in it like a dog that
just made a mess in the living room floor to
(13:00):
do this, because we don't have their arrested attention on
this matter. It's obvious because it's an eighty twenty issue.
People do not feel that kids should be trans operated upon,
injected with drugs and hormones, have their puberties blocked, not
develop their bones, muscle, lung capacity, set them up for
(13:22):
future problems with health in life. Remove any kind of
satisfaction pleasure from the sexual experience because of the transition
that takes place. This is mutilation. This is frankin science,
this is insanity. It has no basis in any faith
if you're looking at it from the religious standpoint, and
it has no basis in any science if you're looking
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at it from the secular standpoint.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
This is a.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Violation of both of those sets of ethos. This is
only a deranged kind of ideology philosophy based on power
and control. To remove that from parents. Bottom line, end
of sentence period.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
And if you doubt me, do your own research and
you will find that is the only conclusion that you
can draw.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
So miss me with this.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, some democrats, they all do either implicitly or complicitly.
They're in on it, and it's time we put our
foot down and stop it.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
This is wrong. When we have the likes of jk Rowling.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Of Jennifer Say, Martina Navratalova, all on the same side
of the issue, with everybody on the right of the
political spectrum. This is a winning issue and it has
to be a winning issue. It's not just about politics here.
This is about saving our kids from this madness. Because
here's the other part of it. This path, this primrose path,
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does not lead to happiness for the kids or in
many cases for the adults. There are trans individuals who
have gender dysphoria, and maybe they choose in their adult
years to go through whatever processes they can to present
as the opposite sex. I want individuals on a libertarian
basis to have their rights respected, to be granted that
(15:13):
kind of level of respect, but they do not get
to inflect their beliefs on anyone else, just as is
in when we reverse engineer this. We cannot exact religious
beliefs on anyone else, simply because we have the faith
in them. This is the religion of the left, many
of them, most of them, if not close to all
(15:34):
of them are atheistic and they rely on this. Governor
Jared Poulis credo the Dan sites often when he was
first sworn in. You have to leave your religion at
the door when you enter the arena of political theater.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
No, no, no, no, no no, because that what does that do?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That removes those of us who have faith based programs, businesses, families.
We have to check our faith at the door. But
guess what their faith is? This crap that is their ideology,
That is their religion. It might not be defined or
described as such by them, but it's a belief system.
(16:17):
It is based on an intrinsic kind of faith that
they have.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
That this is the way to go.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
This atheistic, amoral, anti religion is a religion.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Don't let them tell you otherwise.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Secular atheism is a religion, and they get to bring
it into the arena so they get to play with
a full deck of cards. We got to leave our cards.
No no, we're not gonna play that way, not gonna
do it.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
More Tex five seven seven thirty nine. That so, what's funny? Ryan?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Please don't associate yourself with the TDS plague talent and
staff at KOA. I don't want to have to stop
listening to you should you become indoctrinated by them.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
And there's a mention of Marty Lens there. I like Marty.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Marty has a set of beliefs, and that's fine, So
do I, so do I, And I think I don't know.
I think Marty's pretty upfront about it. At least he
is with me. I don't get to listen to him
a lot because I'm an idohol honey, sleep all day long,
not all day along, just into the morning and usually
past their show. But my whole thing is we live
in a world now where it's very difficult to occupy
(17:28):
a space in which you say that you are objective
in your reporting and how you go about that. I
think it's difficult to do to just set aside any
personal beliefs that you have. Obviously I don't do that here,
and in this form, I tell you flat out where
I stand politically and otherwise, and what my beliefs are,
what I think, And I think that transparency lends itself
(17:51):
to credibility. And I make this point all the time.
If somebody is of the left, that's fine, that's fine,
Just say that you are. Just say that you are
and that's where you're coming from, and this is your
ideological and editorial perspective, and then people can make up
their own minds from there. But they don't do that.
They try to present, Oh, I'm shooting it down the middle.
I'm objective, right, you know, and that's not how it is.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
We know that. I will say this.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I think my good friend and colleague Rob Dawson is
doing an amazing job. He has just taken over his
news director at KOA for the great Kathy Walker, who
is entering a well earned retirement, at least semi retirement.
She was just in here today. She's coming back in
like for cameos. But he does make an effort. I'll
tell you this right up front, and I would tell
you otherwise if that was the case. But Rob is
(18:37):
an old school throwback journalistic reporter and his politics might be,
i don't know, slightly left of center, but he's not
rabidly anti Trump. He doesn't use that as his motivation
for what stories they cover and what stories they don't.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
He wants to get it right and he wants to.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Present the news, you know, kind of like an umpire
call balls and strikes left right, middle, Okay, we're going
to cover it.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
So I think Rob does a great job and I
would ask for you to give him a chance in
terms of running that news department. And he works in
concert with me. He's always asking me questions, getting my input,
and I really appreciate and respect him for that. Lots
of text still to get to. We have some hot takes.
One installment from Donald Trump coming back.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Who's your daddy? I think you know he's your father.
Just come on home a time out. We're back with
Maryan schuling live.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
After this, It's time once again for another edition of
Trump's hot takes, charting the forty seventh president's epic interactions
with the fake news media.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
The NATO chief is your friend. He called you daddy.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah to you regard your NATO allies as kind of children.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Now he likes me.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I think he likes me.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
If he doesn't, I'll let you know I've come back
and I'll hit him hard. Okay, it did very affectionate.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
He's daddy, You're my daddy. A couple of things.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
One this reporter, I love her accent. And a lot
of times President Trump will comment, you have.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
A beautiful accent.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
It's it's really nice, but I can't understand you, but
this one, of course he could.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
But in her instance, I think I'm one that from my.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Ringtone you think of the daddy like, oh, I like that,
I'm a fan.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And then President Trump kind of mischaracterizes, I think, largely, bigly,
exactly what Monk Ruta said the NATO Secretary General. Have
you noticed a lot of these awesome dudes are coming
from Holland, the Netherlands, like the current Dutch Prime Minister
and now the NATO Secretary General. He's Dutch and they're
(20:45):
pretty based, to use the term the kids like these days,
like based John Fetterman based.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Federman that we play on this program. Here is what
he said. I don't think it says Trump quite characterized.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
You're my daddy, You're my favorite dad.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
I'm gonna get you a Father's Day card.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
I mean I do.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Papers on it, Marco.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Maybe we're going to do papers. I don't even know
if you need them.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
They're not going to be fighting each other that they've
had it. They've got a big fight like two kids
at a school yard. You know, they fight like hell,
you can't stop them. Let him fight for about two
three minutes. Then it's easy to stop them.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
And then daddy has to sometimes language and everyone said,
all you have to use a certain word.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I think after all he was doing mark route. There
was following up on the analogy that Trump was using.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
Sometimes the kids are fighting, you come home, you get
out the belt, you snap it.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
And he said, yeah, it's laid on the law, you know.
That's all he said.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
He wasn't like, oh, great orange one, you are our
daddy at NATO, although there is a certain implication that
they know who the sheriff is and when he comes
back into town. If you looked at the photo and
what was taken there, that alpha male energy that we
talk about, there's another term for it, that carry lake
once to use.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
We'll leave that to another time, maybe when you and
I aren't at the bar.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But he's front and center President Trump in this photo
of all the people that were ending this NATO summit.
Now he's back at the White House and the illustrious,
the very talented Shannon Scott, the Detroit connection re established
final day of that. I'm going to miss him, Shannon,
were you able to line that up for us to
roll in just to check in on Donald Trump at
the White House, the President speaking on the big beautiful bill.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Let's go to that one.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Company would have left. But they weren't business people. They
were politicians, not very good ones, and some good ones,
but some really not good at anything. To be honest
with you, we're going to stop the largest tax hike,
and we're going to do that in history. This would
be if the bill doesn't pass, there'll be a sixty
eight percent tax increase. Think of that, sixty eight percent,
(22:43):
which would be the largest in history by about forty points.
And we'll make the Trump tax cuts permanent, expand the
child tax credit, and we will deliver no tax on tips,
no tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security
for a great senior. Among the capitalst citizens who will
(23:11):
benefit from these tax cuts is Malachi Prizeski, a devoted
mom and door dash driver from Rippin' Wisconsin who uses
her tip income to support her son. To think of that,
no tax on tips, and it was a very big problem.
I was at a dinner in my beautiful building in
(23:32):
Las Vegas and unrelated to this, and I said.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Very I will never say good looking waitress because looks
don't matter anymore, you know, in our modern society. She
happened to be beautiful, but I won't say that.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I won't mention that. But nevertheless, a waitress came over
and I said, how you doing. She said, not good, sir.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Why the government is killing me on tips?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
As she looked at me, she.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
Said, sir, there should be no tax on tips. I said,
head again, there should be no tax on tips. I said,
that's the coolest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I walked outside.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
The press was there, as always, waiting for something bad
to happen, hundreds of them. I said, ladies and gentlemen,
please announce tonight there will be no tax on tips.
And a legend was made. We won Nevada by so much.
Republicans don't win Nevada. We won Nevada.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
So I want to thank that.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
Young beautiful waitress.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
She was beautiful. Doesn't matter, but I'm going to say it,
but I'm not going to say it.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
But with no tax on tips and other cuts, this
bill will save Malachi thousands of dollars per year, enabling
her to achieve her goal of visiting every US state
with her son, who wants to visit every state by
the time he's eighteen years old. So, Malachi, it sounds
to me like you're off to a fantastic start.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
And where are you, Malachi, where are you? Congratulations?
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Yeah, talk, yeah, thank you. Also with us today is
Luke Wilson, a twenty three year old electoral alignment He lives,
he loves being an electrician, but in this case the
alignement and these are guys that take big risk and
it's hard stuff, but if you know what you're doing,
(25:20):
it's fine. He's from Harmony, Pennsylvania, as well as d
sovera truck driver from Springfield, Missouri, who where, by the way,
our beautiful planes landed, our B two's they landed after
thirty six hours of flying great Don Pepe, and.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
They hit the target, and they hit the.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Target and the target has now been proven to be obliterated,
just as we said, we had little fake news from CNN.
Thank you very much seeing that with three million miles
of driving under a belt, who mentors other women in
our industry? And I just want to say, Luke and
d spend tout hours working overtime to help make this
(26:02):
country run. And this bill the typical overtime worker like
them will take home nearly fifteen hundred dollars extra every
single year, so you're talking about at least fifteen hundred
and there'll be no a harassment because you were being
harassed by the Democrats. So Luke and de congratulations to
you both.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
Congratulations having your baby especial cut.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
They've being it back now. Shannon, thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
It's a good point to insert into the conversation, the
contrast between what you just heard, the big beautiful bill,
an extension of the Trump tax cuts. Now he says
making them permanent. I think you read the fine for
there's really no way to make a tax cup permanent.
Though I would enjoy that, and know many of you would.
There would be a new administration, they'll carve up their
own bill, but at least for the time being, as
(26:48):
long as Donald Trump remains president and maybe his successor
be that JD. Vance or Marco Rubio or Ronde Santis.
But in the meantime, you have in New York City
a mayoral candidate that is giving you so what you
just heard. You had a waitress. She was beautiful.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
I'm not gonna say it, but she's very pretty, it
doesn't matter anymore. But maybe maybe she's good looking. Okay, shit,
I we're tired.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
He's trying to tow the line to the degree that
he had, but he can't help himself.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
And it's hilarious. Okay, let's just call it. It's funny.
He's funny. He's fun he's he makes you feel good. Okay.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But for a waitress like he described, to keep more
of her tips his income. And there is some division
on our side with this. Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
You know? Should you have your tips be taxable income?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Well, the point I would make again is that you
have high level investors that are able to have offshore
accounts and tax shelters from certain amounts of income. And
Donald Trump pointed this out. This is what Dave Chappelle
commented on and a Saturday Night Live opening monologue that
was brilliant, of course, in the debate with Hillary Clinton,
which he says, I take advantage of the same loopholes
you do and all of your friends. The difference is
(28:02):
I'm honest about it, and I'm telling you and what
he's what he's saying is what any of us would say.
Do you want to pay more in taxes? To the
federal government than you absolutely have to know who would
otherwise donate it in your own interest out of the
goodness of your own heart, you bleeding heart liberals, and
you donate the money, go ahead and do it.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Show that you're a better person. That's what you think anyway.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
But no, there should be forcible taxation on all income
levels to establish a centralized government that will make decision
for us based on the income that they confiscate.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
How about no.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But here's Zora and Mamdani, this communist, this democratic socialist
of America talking about he knows better how to spend
our money than we do. Meaning this waitress in Nevada
or this ligneman that works over time. Should those two individuals,
working class, blue collar putting in off hours, waitress on
(29:01):
her feed all night alignment dangerous work certified?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Should they keep.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
More of their take home pay or have to surrender
it to the federal government to subsidize lazy asses who
aren't working. How about no, how about we incentivize our
American workers to work harder, to work longer, to work smarter,
to keep more of their money to spend how they
want to spend it.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
No, you call.
Speaker 9 (29:28):
Yourself a democratic socialist. The word socialist, of course, has
been vilified and used to attack you specifically. How do
you define being a democratic socialist?
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I think in the words of doctor King, who decades
ago said call it democracy or call it democratic socialism.
There must be a better distribution of wealth for all
of God's children. Yes, and it gets to the heart
of the matter, which is inequality and my belief that
every New Yorker should have what they need to live
a dignified life. It shouldn't be something that they can
be priced out of. And that's why at the heart
of our campaign is this focus on free the rent
(30:00):
for more than two million rent civilized tenants, making the
slowest buses in the country fastened.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Let American workers keep more of their own money. This
is not about wealth redistribution. COMMI because you look just
like a kami and you might just be a member.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Quoting Bob Seeger.
Speaker 9 (30:22):
There are in the country about twelve hundred, you know,
people who are just wealthy beyond so what beyond anything? Right,
And the twenty five years ago there were only about
forty of them.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Oh, now there are.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
Twelve hundred people who are worth more than a billion
dollars pack.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
That's awesome.
Speaker 9 (30:38):
That has to be addressed at some point, because they're
nothing the taxes that the rest of.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Us are paying.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Yes, absolutely, and I think it gets to the heart
of the matter, which is that there is enough money
for a life of dignity for all people. It's just
a question of whether we have the political will to
ensure that money is being spent on delivering that.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
This thesis was advanced going back to two thousand and
one by one of my all time favorite duos, Tenacious D.
Here's Jack Black lyrics from City Hall when they said,
will lead his two kings after burning down city Hall,
no more.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Rich people and four people. From now on, we will
all be the same.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Even back then, Jack Black, who I think is a lefty, was.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Like, wait a minute, that might not be a good idea.
It's a terrible idea.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
This notion that the billionaires don't pay their fair share
of taxes. Go on a Ledger sheet and show exactly
how much those job creators, those wealth builders contribute to
our American economy by creating jobs and yes, by paying
a large portion of the overall income tax base.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
And what you do.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
You never tax your way into prosperity. You tax your
way into squalor. You increase the tax burden again on
these job creators, these wealth builders for Americans. A rising
tide does lift all bolts, because I tell you what's
going to happen. If Momdanie is elected mayor of New
York City, you will watch these job creators in New
York City flee. They will leave, They will go to Florida,
(32:22):
they will go to Texas, they will go to Tennessee,
and New York City will be left holding the bag.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
With no tax base.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It's happened to California, it is happening here in Colorado
and Denver, and it's going to happen in New York City.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
A break.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
We're back wrapping up our number one, your tax five
seven seven three nine.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
After this, you hear me.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
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Speaker 4 (34:16):
Let's see, that's right, No such thing as a free launch.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
All communism socialism guarantees as a there's the lowest common denominator,
and we are all.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
At the lowest.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
You're only as strong as your weakest link in the chain,
and we're all going to be living in squalor breadlines.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
That's where it all leads.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
The Soviet Union is big, as powerful as it was,
collapsed under the weight of itself. Why because of that
squalor That is a guaranteed outcome of centralized government and socialism.
Bottom line, what capitalism provides, what the American dream provides,
is the opportunity, no guarantee. The pursuit of happiness is
(34:57):
what you're afforded here, not happiness, it's person suit. The
pursuit of wealth and success is guaranteed. Whether you get
there or not, that's up to you.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
There might be forces at play that present obstacles to you,
but those that have ingenuity, creativity, dogged determination, they find
a way. That is the American spirit. That is what
we are all about, that is what we've always been about.
That's why there is so much creativity, job creation, invention,
ingenuity in this country. That sets the standard for the
(35:30):
rest of the world. And I will always be proud
of that, and you should be two five seven, seven
thirty nine your text. In this final minute, I want
to touch on this and then follow up on.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
The other side.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Ryan AOC just yesterday insulted men from Queens, saying she
eats men for queens for breakfasts. You eat pieces of
bank for breakfast. No, this was in response to her
little tiff with Trump. She represents Queens, Okay, she says
she's from the Bronx. She represents Queens, but she's from
upstate New York, or at least what people who reside
(36:04):
in New York City and the Five Boroughs refer to
as anything outside of that being upstate New York.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Will explain how she's a charlatan
Speaker 3 (36:12):
About this issue when we come back our number two
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