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April 29, 2025 • 37 mins
A drunk driver who killed a young Air Force pilot has just been convicted of first-degree murder, and 23rd district attorney George Brauchler spearheaded prosecution of the case. He joins Ryan to discuss.

Tuesday is National Fentanyl Awareness Day, Dr. Robert Marbut produced the documentary 'Fentanyl: Death Incorporated' and joins Ryan to discuss the ongoing epidemic of the drug killing so many of America's youth.

KOA host Ross Kaminsky was featured on The Ingraham Angle Monday night, marking his first appearance on the Fox News primetime program. He joins Ryan to reflect on that exchange, which focused on the illegal alien drug bust at an underground nightclub in Colorado Springs and the efforts Democrats in the General Assembly are making to help exacerbate the illegal alien crisis.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, got a lot of housekeeping to do in real
time on this extremely busy edition of Ryan Schuling Live
here on a Tuesday along with Kelly cochera riding shotgun.
That's all you get, just the two of us, Just
the two of us. There you go, she's singing it. Okay,
five seven, seven, three nine. If you want to join

(00:20):
in on the conversation, let me give you the lowdown
the batting lineup for today, if you will. And I
think this batting lineup could beat the current Colorado Rockies,
who are four and twenty four and historically one of
the worst starts in Major League Baseball history. They call
it a modern era. In modern being since nineteen hundred,
it is the worst start over that amount of time

(00:42):
those number of games twenty eight by any National League team,
and only two American League teams have had worst starts,
the nineteen eighty eight Baltimore Orioles, who infamously started that
season zero to twenty one. It was on the cover
of Sports Illustrated fired Cal Ripkins Senior as man a
little uncomfortable because I think both cal Rican Junior and

(01:04):
his brother Billy were on that team. And then my
infamous two thousand and three Detroit Tigers. They were terrible.
Alan Trammell was the manager. That was just before they
acquired Pydrodriguez, then Maglia Ordoniez and they turned into a
juggernaut for the next about ten years. Butck this batting line,
let's get to it. George Brockler is coming up in

(01:24):
just a few moments. He's got news to break. He
had a press conference earlier today. If you were listening
to the news coverage locally here just before this program began,
then you heard him talking about a young Air Force
pilot who was killed by a drunk driver, and said
drunk driver convicted of first degree murder. George will join

(01:45):
us to talk about that, how that case went, his
prosecution of it, and his observations on the legal front
in Colorado. There's a lot going on. In fact, Ross
Kamenski will join us a little bit later on this
hour as well. He appeared on the The Ingram Angle
last night with Laura Ingram and Fox News talking about
the big illegal alien drug gun prostitution bust that took

(02:12):
place over the weekend. Ross will be joining us to
close out the hour. In between No shortage today of
topics or guests. This one's especially near and dear to
my heart personally, especially in recent times. Doctor Robert Marbut.
He is the producer of the documentary film Fetanyl Death Incorporated,

(02:33):
which came out a year ago. But in the last week,
my buddy Hutch down in Tampa was urgently trying to
get a hold of me. And when he's doing that,
it's almost always bad news. And I thought I was
fearing for the worst that it might be bad news
about him. What it turned out to be was a
couple of our mutual friends down there called them Mud

(02:55):
and Lives. See, there's all these nicknames, so you gotta
keep everybody straight. Their real names are Johnny and Susan,
but Johnny and Susan. Susan had not heard from her
son for five days. He had missed work for three
straight days. He was working for Johnny in the restaurant
that he runs down there in Tampa Saint Pete. They
couldn't get a hold of him. They tried to go

(03:16):
to his apartment, they could not get in.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
It was locked.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
They called the local police who showed up were able
to force their way in, and what they found unfortunately,
was a tragic scene. The young men had died from
a fentanyl overdose, and Susan was wanting to go in
there to see him, and the police strongly cautioned and
urged against her doing that because of the condition that

(03:40):
the young man's body was in. But this is far
from an isolated incident, as so many of you out
there know, and this documentary film is very important. We
know that Stephan Tubbs, our counterpart from Knus for all
those years, has really dedicated himself to this cause, and
specifically here in Colorado. And what really draws my eye

(04:00):
in the wake of this news, over the weekend, at
an illicit, illegal, underground nightclub in Colorado Springs featuring the
likes of Trendy Arragua also starring MS thirteen other ne'er
duells like the Hell's Angels, gathering where they could go
in be handed a menu of drugs, including whatever pink

(04:21):
cocaine is. Maybe Kelly knows what that is, I don't,
but crystal meth regular cocaine, who knows what what it's
laced with. You go to a party I could only
imagine being a young person in a high school college age,
you go to a party, friend gives you something, thinks
it's something else doesn't know, isn't aware that it's laced

(04:42):
with fentanyl.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Boom, you're dead. It's over.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
One dose, one little microdose, a little bit too much.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
You're gone. It's over.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
We've got criminal, illegal aliens gathering Colorado springs busted clear
as day, red handed, white handed, when there's cocaine involved.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
And what do we have Senator Michael Bennett doing.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
We have him coming out and Mealy mau equivocating about how.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, you know, it's good we uh look after the drugs,
but what about due process for the get.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
The f out of here with your due process for
these clowns, for these absolute criminals who don't belong in
our state in.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
The first place.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
And you're worried about due process as we put our
boots in their asses to kick their way out of
our country, out the door.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
We need a strong Republican candidate to press back on
Michael Bennett, weak, feckless candidate that he is. Phil Wiser's
none the wiser, He's none the better. Wiser's obsessed with
Donald Trump. We'll ask George Brockler about that. In a
few minutes. No regard for the primary race that he
claims to be running against Michael Bennett, he doesn't he wants,

(05:59):
you know, doesn't want to engage in friendly fire, circular
firing squad, even though there's an opening there. Even though
people in Colorado are struggling, suffering, some under the yoke
of drug addiction, many under the yoke of an unaffordable
cost of living. But that's not what the Democrats are
concerned about right now. They want to protect criminal, illegal

(06:21):
aliens that are in our state.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Why to what end?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
And Ross Kevinski will join us a little bit later
on for his take on that as well. But doctor
Robert Marbut will join us at the bottom of the
hour this today today is National Fentanyl Awareness Day, and
I really want to make sure that we have that conversation.
I'm looking forward to that as well after the top
of the hours. So much as has happened over the
last twenty four hours, I mean, it looks like Amazon

(06:49):
was going to put a display on their website of
the impact that tariffs the Trump administration has imposed, I think,
particularly on China, how that would affect the pricing for
the consumer, and that you would see that listed there,
never mind the fact that many of these products do

(07:09):
not show you whether or not they were made in
China or the United States. I think that would be
a much more useful label for me personally, maybe for you.
But this came to loggerheads in the Trump administration earlier today.
Caroline love Ittt was asked about it and asked if
this in fact shows and proves that it is the

(07:30):
American consumer who will be paying for these teriffts and
not China themselves.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
This is a hostile and political act by Amazon.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Why did Amazon do this when.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
The Biden administration height inflation to the highest level in
forty years? And I would also add that it's not
a surprise because, as Reyers recently wrote, Amazon has partnered
with a Chinese propaganda arm. So this is another reason
why Americans should buy American. It's another reason why we
are on shoring critical supply chains here at home, to

(08:03):
shore up our own critical supply chain and boost our
own manufacturing here.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And as they say on SpongeBob SquarePants a few hours later, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Bezos was very nice, He was terrific.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
He solved the problem very quickly, and he did the
right thing, and it's a good.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Guy just took a phone call and Amazon scrapped that
idea right in a hurry. In fact, here were some
statements from Amazon throughout the day, the first one reading
the team that runs our ultra low cost Amazon Hall
store Haul has considered listing import charges on certain products.

(08:43):
This was never a consideration for the main Amazon site
and nothing has been implemented on any Amazon properties. Then
I saw at Amazon News on that same platform X
the following post.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Amazon's response to this.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Morning's news reports the team that runs our ultra low
cost Amazon Hall stories considered the idea of listing import
charges on certain products.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
This was never approved and it is not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I wonder why it's not going to happen after the
blowback from the Trump administration. I think you can credit
the Orange guy for that, and he will join us
in quotes coming up in our number two also Representative
Scott Bottoms. He is preparing to hold a press conference
at the steps of the Capitol tomorrow along with our
friend Aaron Lee, parental rights advocate in protest of House

(09:31):
built twenty five DASH thirteen twelve, which will now be
heard before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and that'll be tomorrow
on Wednesday. Joining us now and Ryan Shuling live our
good friend George Brockler. He is the district attorney for
the twenty third Big News today we're here to talk
to him about that. George, thank you so much for
your time on a busy day.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Hey Man, thanks for having me. It's always good to
talk about bringing a little justice down south. Here.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Talk to us a little bit, George, if you would,
about what the this case was, how you prosecuted it,
and how you got to the result that you were
able to achieve.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Man, thank you for this. By the way, this is
the very first murder jury trial that we've had in
the twenty third, so it's got a little historic significance too.
But this thing started back onto the old eighteenth and
so on August the fourth, twenty twenty four, it was
a Sunday right across from the Douglas County Fair. In fact,
the last day the Anderson family, Matt and his wife

(10:28):
Ali and their two and then i'm sorrying their four
kids eleven, eight, four and twenty months all went to
the fair. And when they were done at the fair,
Mom asked if they could go across the street to
the seven eleven they're off of Plumb Creek and get
some popsicles for the kids. Dad had to get guests anyway,
so he pulls in Dad by the way test pilot

(10:49):
with the Air Force, Lieutenant Colonel, I mean just a
rising star, a hot shot. Mom starts heading into the
seven eleven. What they don't know is that a concurrent
with their time at the fair. Our defendant in this
case was at home, miserable and depressed. His wife had
left on him. She'd left him, she'd been unfaithful to him,

(11:11):
and he spent a couple hours before he poured himself
into a Chevy Silverado a drinking and he would later
tell the police he drank two bud lights and a
pint of Fireball whiskey and he ran out of alcohol
so he needed to go get more, so he pours
himself into this twenty seventeen lifted Chevy Silverado and takes
off westbound on Plumb Creek, and then, sometime after his

(11:36):
last stop at an intersection, which he manages without any problems,
he all of a sudden pulls forward about forty two
feet with the rest of traffic and then waits for
traffic to clear and shoots to the left and darts
across five lanes of traffic. Hops a curb, gets the
accelerated depressed down to about ninety six ninety eight percent,

(11:57):
and hits the Anderson vehicle broadside at a about forty.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Five miles an hour.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
The impact, and it's all caught on video so significant.
The impact hits Lieutenant Colonel Matt Anderson. He doesn't know
this is going to happen. It hits him so hard, Ryan,
it takes off his foot above the ankle and throws
him about fifteen feet and he suffers a severe, traumatic

(12:25):
and ultimately lethal head injury. And then you know what
happens After that happens. Mom runs back across to her car.
She's screaming, my babies, my babies. Find out that the
eleven year old and the eight year old all have
cuts on their arms from things that took place inside
the car. The four year old has a closed head
injury and an epidural brain bleed, but mercifully, miraculously, the

(12:49):
twenty month old not no issues at all, no injuries,
no nothing. This guy is a two time prior DUI
out of Utah. And no remorse. I mean, we can
talk more about to but absolutely no remorse after this
thing happens. And so the office chooses to prosecute him

(13:09):
not for vehicular homicide, which in Colorado is a really
weak and woosy kind of four to twelve year probation
eligible felony. If you can imagine that you can drive
drunk and kill ten twenty people and those charges of
the vegular homicide level never change from being probation eligible.

(13:30):
So we prosecuted him for extreme indifference murder and attempted
extreme and difference murder for the kids in the car,
and the jury saw out our way and they convicted him.
And so now he'll come back for sentencing the day
before Independence Day, and he's going to be sentenced to
life without the possibility of parole for up to an
additional potentially two hundred and thirty years in the Department

(13:51):
of Corrections.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
This is a momentous decision, George. I don't need to
tell you that before our listeners out there. What this
does is it sets a press as a deterrent that
somebody might be thinking about doing this, knows about this case,
and instead, this is where my head went, I started
shaking my head just to order for delivery man. There
are simple apps and services you can use to have

(14:13):
that done. Nevertheless, to get this level of conviction George
on a drunk driving murder, the priors that you mentioned,
the video that was part of the evidence. How much
of that do you think went into getting this level
of conviction And would you have been able to get
it without any one of those factors?

Speaker 5 (14:35):
The priors played some role. He ends up testifying and
ultimately I don't think he does very well on the stand.
I wish that that had been recorded on video because
there were some laugh out loud moments there.

Speaker 7 (14:49):
Ryan.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
At one point he says, talk to me like you're
a man. I mean, I just thought in front of
the jury. Another time he says, you're being so aggressive,
and it looked like he was being sheepish. He's like,
you're being so aggressive, And I said, if I whisper
you the questions, will you answer them? You know that
kind of thing. It was just it was a great cross.
But he also had a point two zero eight blood

(15:12):
alcohol level at the time of this, so that right
there is going to tell people, dude is rip roar
and drunk. He's two and a half times the legal limit.
The priors play a role because they go to that
extreme indifference, that sort of you've been here, done that,
you know from the classes and stuff you've been sentenced to,
and that's what we got in that this is dangerous

(15:33):
and that this is potentially lethal. He denied that. So
when I said, look, if a guy's driving down the
road with two and a half times the legal limit,
you'd agree with me, that's dangerous and he goes not
all the time. I'm not a doctor. I can't tell you.
I think right then and there. Stuff like that causes
the jury to go, what what are you talking about?
And then get this part. By the way, Castle Rock
Police Department, it's phenomenal job on this case. Officer Lastra,

(15:57):
the lead on the case, goes into the hospital room
about five hours after this happens, asks this guy while
he's in the gurney. He says, you got any questions
for me, sir, and he goes yeah, He's like, what happened?
You know, I'm all messed up, and he thought he'd
been in a collision but didn't really understand the scope
of it. Lastra says to him. You you hit a
car full of kids with your with your truck. Now

(16:20):
you would think, man, anybody else in your life, drunk,
not drunk, anything in between, would go, oh, my sweet God,
please tell me none of them are hurt. Not this guy.
This guy says, huh, oh, can I get my glasses?
And then last year he says, yeah, I'll try to.
I don't know where they all try to get him
any other questions. He goes, yeah, my truck. What's going

(16:40):
on with my truck? And asked him one more time,
anything else I can answer for He goes, yeah, can
you get the nurses to bring me some eyes and
some water. I mean, dude couldn't have cared less about
the statement. You just crashed your car into a car
full of kids, not a care in the world. So
all of those things I think add up for jurors,
and they are to sit there and think he didn't care.

(17:02):
This dude was all about him. This was a selfish
decision by a selfish man who, even after the bad
stuff happens, is only thinking about himself.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
George Brockler, District Attorney in the twenty third on this
groundbreaking conviction of a drunk driver who killed a young
Air Force pilot and what the public now knows. There
are four children in this vehicle, God forbid anything happened
to them. Three of them were injured, the infant was not. Finally, George,
in the two minutes that we have left, two points one,

(17:30):
obviously a defendant in such a case. I don't know
what his attorneys were like, or who hired them or
what was going on there, but you don't testify in
a case like this. He made a bad situation far worse.
Not that I feel sorry for him, but also again,
the message this sends, George, this conviction, this sentencing for
this crime in your community. What message does that send

(17:51):
to the people who live in the twenty third Well?

Speaker 5 (17:54):
One, I hope it sends a dual message. One is
we're going to do everything we can to discourage drunk
drivers on the road because, as you and I know,
Ryan Kelly, two, unless you're going to be a shut in,
you can't live in this society without getting on the roads.
And I'm telling you, after thirty years of doing this,
the DUIs happen at every time of day on every

(18:14):
road out there. And so we're going to try to
discourage that. But the other one is a message to
those who might think I can drive home, I can
make it, and that is if you choose to drive
drunk in this community and you kill someone, my goal
will be to take away your liberty. My goal will
to make sure you lose some portion of your life
or your freedom in order to try to get some

(18:36):
justice for the part that we can't really get back,
which is that stolen life.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
No nonsense.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Drunk driving is no laughing matter, and it resulted in
a death that was completely preventable but for the irresponsible,
selfish actions of this driver, who will be sentenced, as
George said, coming up for first degree murder. Congratulations on
the resolution of this case, George. I know it's always
better sweet, especially for the family involved.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
But thank you for all you do for the community.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Hey, thanks for having me on to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Thanks man, George Brockler, the twenty third District Attorney joining us.
There your thoughts and reaction five seven, seven three nine,
We come back. Doctor Robert Marbut joins us on National
Fentanyl Awareness Day.

Speaker 8 (19:20):
Leasier kids thought they weren't taking a purpose that they
got from a friend who got it off the internet,
but the pill was laced with fentanyl and now they're
unconscious and unresponsible. This is the Mexican cartels. This is
the Mexican cartails working with Chinese chemical companies to make
pills by the millions, destabilizing the border, to trafficking that
fennel to kill the entire population of a country many
times over. This is the ports of British Columbia. We're

(19:42):
chemicals to make finnel or smuggled in by the tonnage
and Canadian super labs are producing fennel to exports the
countries around the world. Leser gangs and drug dealers near
you haphazardly mixing fennol powder with other chemical like xylazine,
which is a horse tranquilizer, causing the users scan to
fall off.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
But hey, at least.

Speaker 8 (19:59):
The I last longer.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
Any questions, I have a question, what is the super lapping?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I want to know why are we seeing these record
overdose deaths just in America line?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Why is this happening here?

Speaker 9 (20:16):
Our local hospital rooms are blowing up.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Why because they're killing our children? How do we change that?
Often defense bron Dayala, how much of this deli poison
is coming across the border.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
How come all these people are all passed out?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Where is all of this stuff coming from? Is China
purposely addicting our national comparents protect their children from fedil.
That's a tough question.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
It is a tough question and there is no easy answer,
especially when China is manufacturing the base materials to make fentanyl.
These are being shared with the cartels in Mexico which
are then trafficking the drug across the border, which makes
the border crisis perhaps the most crucial along these lines,

(20:59):
because these drugs are killing our youth at an unprecedented
percentage over these last several years, especially out of control
during the Biden administration.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
And as you heard there, that is.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
From the trailer for the twenty twenty four documentary Fentanyl
Death Incorporated, a hard hitting true crime documentary. And we
have been hit hard here in Colorado, as you know,
especially be joined by doctor Robert Marbut in just a
few moments. But as we wait for that, I want
to open the text lines five seven seven three nine.

(21:31):
If you have experienced anything that's hit close to home,
whether it be a family member, a friend, a family
member of a friend, five seven seven three nine is
where you can reach us. Let's go to some texts
right now while we have a moment. Steven little Is,
the retired law enforcement officer, says, haven't heard polos declare
the illegal alien drug bust being just figments of someone's imagination.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I believe the exact.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Word to use for Daniel Jorinsky was a feature of
her imagination, like there was a pulldown menu in Daniel
Jorinsky's imagination from which you could select out of several features,
the imagination of trendy Arragua gang members commandeering apartment buildings
in Aurora. And as you might recall as well, Vice

(22:16):
President JD. Vance, then a candidate at the time senator
at the time, confronted Martha Radits on it, asking her
do you hear yourself? Because as she was saying, she
was trying to downplay, dismiss, pooh pooh, diminish what was
happening r ours, it's just a few apartment buildings, just

(22:36):
a few Well, Martha, I know you.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Probably live in a gated community in a very high
rent district.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
But what if the buildings that the trendy Arragua gang
members had commandeered were directly next to you in your neighborhood,
where you live, where you work, where you shop, they
would be singing quite a different tune. And this goes
to the whole Michelle Obama line. How dan ever thought

(23:04):
that she was a viable candidate for president. She is
cringe worthy every.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Time she speaks.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Just listen to the cognitive dissonance she's She's not extremely
intelligent when it comes to what I would call street smarts.
Listen to her here and the disconnect. This is only
twenty six seconds.

Speaker 10 (23:23):
Well, in this current climate, for me, it's you know,
what's happening to immigrants, you know, So it's it's not
the fear for myself anymore. I drive around in a
four car motorcade with a police escort. I'm Michelle Obama.
I do still worry about my daughters in the world,
even though they are somewhat recognizable. So my fears are

(23:45):
for what I know is happening out there in streets
all over the city.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Off putting and out of touch. I'm in a four
car motorcade. I'm a former First Lady of the United States.
So you know they're referring to herself and the third person.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Ick gross No, But this.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Goes as well, Adam Schiff, Senator California, was just recently
on Bill Maher and he explained how he had just
run into a pharmacy and while the pharmaceutical goods, the
toothbrushes were behind enclosed cases, and the worker there was
blaming Democrats for it, didn't have any idea who he was,

(24:25):
of course, even though he's her state senator.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Joining us now.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Doctor Robert Marbot, the afore mentioned and one of the
producers for the film from which you heard the trailer,
Fentanyl Death Incorporated. He joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live,
Doctor Marbot, thank you for your time.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
It's great to hear your voice and such a necessary one,
doctor Marbot on a daylight today National Fentanyl Awareness Day.
I told the story earlier about a friend of mine
and friends of ours down in Tampa Saint Pete who
recently lost her twenty somethingters sun to fentanyl. It can
strike at any time, doesn't really discriminate along any kind
of lines, and it's an epidemic in America. What do

(25:04):
people need to know that maybe they don't know right now?

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Well, sadly, the story you just shared is happening all
across America. And if people don't understand the magnitude of
what's going on, there are three stats I'll go through
real quick. One Number one killer all people eighteen to
forty five in America, full stop, no caveat. Number one killer.

(25:29):
More people have died from fitnel in the last five
years than all American men and women servicemen, all uniformed
branches of service, plus the Intelligence Agency for the last
one hundred years. So if you had a World War
two Afghanistan, Iraq go War one, Gulf War two, Coast
of Thogue, Global War on Tarror, and a few other

(25:50):
smaller ones, add them all up. More people have died
in fentanyel the last five years, the last one hundred
years at war. And if we don't start realizing how
potent and powerful this is the most dangerous drug ever manufactured,
elicit drug manufactured in the world's history. And the last

(26:12):
thing people need to know is how small of the
dose will kill you. Two grains of salt equivalent of
fentanyl would kill anybody, or a grain of salt would
kill fifteen people equivalent of fentanyl. That's how potent it is.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Doctor Robert marbot Our guest Fentanyl Death Incorporated. He's the
producer of that documentary. I invite you to check that
out online today April twenty ninth being National Fentanyl Awareness Day.
And we know that this is a problem that is multifaceted,
how it has reached this crisis level, doctor Marbot, And
much of it had to do with an unsecured border

(26:49):
and what China was able and willing to traffic into
our country visa VI the Mexican cartels, and how shutting
down the border was so instrumental to that cause. Do
you take us through that aspect of it and how
fentanyl became so prevalent in the United States.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
But in what shocking is how fast it became. If
we were having this car fifteen years ago, there would
have been mentioned the fentanyl. It would have been met
or coke or crack or something else. And how it
got started in the United States was with Purdue Pharma,
and it got millions of people had prescriptions, hundreds of

(27:28):
thousands were addicted. And we all know about what happened
in twenty fourteen in all the lawsuits and so when doctors, hospitals,
and pharmacies stuck doling out synthetic opioids in the form
of oxicodine and other the Mexican cartel, who already had
a supply chain of meth in the United States almost instantly.

(27:51):
It's a matter in parts of the country. It's a
matter of days. What refilled the supply chain on the
street with people who were already addicted, and that stays
one And they got their drugs from China, and so
for the first few years it was all about China

(28:13):
producing the product and having the Mexican cartels bring it up.
And then over time the Mexican cartels started using what's
called precursors or pre precursors, if you will, active ingredients,
and they started making it themselves, but they still get
the key ingredients from China, and that's how it all
got started in the United States. And obviously since then

(28:36):
it's morphed a couple times, but the whole start with
China and the Mexican cartels.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Find out more online where you can find the film
and watch it in its entirety YouTube as well Fentanyl
Death Incorporated dot com. That is the website Fentanyl Deathincorporated
dot com. Doctor Robert Marbert our guest doctor Marbaret, thank
you for joining us on this very consequential day, National
Fentanyl Awareness Day, and thank you for bringing that awareness

(29:02):
to our listeners here today.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
And thanks so much for having me on. Really appreciate it,
doctor Robert Mar.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
But your thoughts again if your family has been touched
by the fentanyl crisis, want to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Five seven seven three nine. Joining us next.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
He appeared on The Ingram Angle with Laura Ingram Fox
News last night for the first time. Our very own
Ross Kominski, just across the hall in Koa, will join
us live after this on Ryan Schuling Live.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well, Ross, you say that the Colorado Democrat legislature, it's
based almost a super Democrat legislature, is actually working as
we speak to make the state even safer for illegals.

Speaker 9 (29:47):
Indeed, the yeah, they're doing things like making it much
more difficult for local law enforcement to share information with
the FEDS, and lots of small things like that. But
I'll tell you the one thing in I mean, there's
a lot of bad things in that bill, Laura, but
the thing that jumps out at me most there's a
provision in there that says that in the illegal alien

(30:09):
who pled guilty to one of a few different categories
of crimes can change the plea from guilty to not
guilty once they find out that a guilty plea could
possibly cause them to get deported.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
I'd say this to the great people of Colorado. Is
this the best you can do with your governor, with
your legislature? Really, as I spent a lot of time
in Colorado, it's a beautiful state as being wrecked by this. Ross,
thank you for that reporting. We really appreciate it. Great
radio show.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Too, Laura Ingram with our own Ross Kamenski, formerly of
the mornings here on six point thirty kW now of
course nine am to noon over on KOA. He joins
us live on Ryan Schuling Live.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Ross.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
What I like the most about your appearance there was
I don't know if you're like me, but the language,
the nomenclature, the Orwellian terms of documented of newcomer, even
illegal immigrant. At this point, I am just rejecting they're
illegal aliens. They need to be called such. And I'm
so glad you called it for what it was right there.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Well, thank you, And I thought you were going to
say that what you liked best about my appearance was
my hair. But this is a fine This is a
fine second second place, Ryan, And I also want to,
you know, wish you a very happy National Zipper Day,
which it is today.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Oh wow, there's a lot of days today, it would
appear there are a lot of days.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Ross.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
What was your reaction?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I heard you talk about it, and you know, by
your standards, it was kind of fire and brimstone, and
I gotta admit I kind of liked it, and a
lot of people in our audience would appreciate it that
you know, you're done with this zero tolerance for not
only criminal illegal aliens, but those that are here illegally.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
They're here illegally for a reason.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
They're not merely victims in many cases, in fact, and
a majority of them. We're seeing what's happening in Colorado
springs in Aurora, and it's an epidemic in Colorado. How
would you best summer I what just happened in the springs?

Speaker 7 (32:02):
So I actually think the best summary came from one
of my listeners. So the head DEA agent who ran
that raid, pull In I think his name is, he
said in a press conference. Because the raid was like
two am Sunday morning or something like that. So later
in the day he gave a press conference and he
said Coloradden's today woke up to a safer state. And

(32:27):
my listener said, Coloradden's today woke up to realize they
don't live in the same state anymore.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, it's momentous Roscominski joining us here and one of
the other things that's really drawn my ir about this
whole situation in Colorado that we find ourselves ross, which
I think you would acknowledge as along with me. Michael Bennett,
senator candidate for governor now is a presumptive favorite to
be the next governor of the state, and he issued
a real weak sauce mealy mouthed statement about we.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Got to afford due process for everybody that was at that.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
No, are we really that concerned with due process for
those that just got busted there?

Speaker 7 (33:05):
Well maybe it depends what they got busted for, right,
I mean, I do believe in due process, and I
do I do believe in rule of law, because I
would sure hate to see it if you know, Democrats
took over and started, i know, busting some place where
you know, Conservatives hung out and said we're gonna hurt
you without due process, So we need to be a
little careful with that. But if somebody's already if somebody

(33:27):
is an illegal alien who has been committed of a crime,
convicted of a crime, there has to be a way
to deport them fairly quickly, right. There just has to
be in the You know, one of the Trump administration
has been right about most stuff regarding immigration. This is
their strongest issue. It's part of the reason they keep
talking about it every day recently because they're winning on

(33:48):
it and they're they're they made sure, they made a
couple of mistakes that the media is blowing up, but
mostly they're doing a great job, right, and they're right
when they make a point.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Look, Joe Biden, just.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
The illegal aliens who came in when Biden was here,
forget about the ones already here. If you're going to
really offer every one of them what many people would
call a full trial, you will never get them out
of the country. So there has to be a process
that put in place that has some kind of balance
between due process that we guarantee in America but also

(34:19):
an expedited system. And I don't know what the answer is,
but you know, somebody who's paid to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Better, figure it out.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
And that was my point Ross, not that an American
citizen who was busted there and we'll see what happens.
American citizens are afforded due process. But what I'm saying is,
if an illegal alien came into this country and the
first thing they did was circumvent our due process for immigration,
why should they expect due process on the way out?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Would be my question.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
It's a perfectly reasonable question. But let me give you
a slightly political answer. Most Americans are not okay with
deporting any illegal alien just because they're an illegal alien.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Right, somebody who's been here ten years.

Speaker 7 (35:00):
Never committed a crime, doing a job, paying taxes, making
a better life. Most people don't want that person deported.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Now, I'm not saying there were a lot.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
Of those at this nightclub, right, but just as a
general thing, I think the public has no tolerance at
all for gang members, criminals and other of those folks.
But for the people who are just you know, doing
the I want a better life thing, there's a lot
more sympathy for them among the American public, and Trump
needs to be a little careful there.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Final question Ross this day, marking one hundred days Donald
Trump in Michigan to talk about it. You're not a
Trump supporter, we know that full well, but you kind
of call balls and strikes here. So scale of one
to ten, ten being reaganing at his peak in the
nineteen eighties, what score would you give Donald Trump for
his first one hundred days?

Speaker 7 (35:48):
So probably surprise you a little six and a half
maybe seven, Okay, you know, I think my grade is
a little higher than a lot of people might think.
And in this sense, he there are some things that
he's doing that I don't like.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I think the.

Speaker 7 (36:06):
Tariffs are a big mistake, But then that stuff is
what's getting all the airtime. And meanwhile he's doing all
these other things that are really good. Immigration is getting
a lot of airtime too, and that's good, but lots
of other things, getting DEI out of government, getting the
military focused back on the mission, trying to get the
cost of government under control. And I worry about out
of time, so I'll stop. But he's doing just a

(36:27):
lot of things that are that are really good. So
if he can just tamp down on some of the
big bad things, he could still potentially have a successful presidency.
And I sure hope he does.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
What I know is Ross Kaminski grades with rigor, like
we would talk at a high academic it's tititians. That's
pretty good score, I would say from Ross for President Trump.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Ross, thanks for your time today.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Congratulations on your first appearance with Lori Ingram. Thanks for
having me Ryan always great. All right, your thoughts on
what Ross had to say? Five seven, seven three nine,
Because when we come back, lie for my home state
of Michigan. Able to cook this up, your President, the
Orange One, Donald John Trump, to start our number two.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
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