December 9, 2025 • 35 mins
George Brauchler, 23rd district attorney joins Ryan to discuss yet another ridiculous instance of a defendant deemed 'incompetent' to stand trial under Colorado's excessively and intentionally nebulous law on the very definition of 'competency.'
Also, fentanyl potency has decreased dramatically on the black-market drug trade, with Trump enforcement policies potentially making the difference. A record recent drug bust in Douglas County is one example of how the illegal drug cartels are facing more resistance than ever before. George comments on his jurisdiction's approach to battling this deadly threat in Colorado.
Aurora shooting suspect expected to be committed indefinitely, charges to be dropped
Also, fentanyl potency has decreased dramatically on the black-market drug trade, with Trump enforcement policies potentially making the difference. A record recent drug bust in Douglas County is one example of how the illegal drug cartels are facing more resistance than ever before. George comments on his jurisdiction's approach to battling this deadly threat in Colorado.
Aurora shooting suspect expected to be committed indefinitely, charges to be dropped
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And a courage you design in the fight against fentanyl.
The DEA says, pills seized by their agents are seeing
a dramatic decline in potency and President Trump may be
the one to thank for that. Our Fox and New
senior correspondent Alicia Ocunya has got more sees in Denver. Now,
at Alicia, these are some staggering reductions.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
John.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
This is draw dropping data from the Drug Enforcement Administration.
National lab test results on illegal fentanyl pills show a
drop in the lethal potency of pills on the street
from seventy six percent two years ago to twenty nine
percent today. The DA says it's because the Trump administration
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is all hands on deck.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
They are targeting the global supply network of precursor chemicals
that go from China into Mexico, and if we can
impact that supply making its way to the Mexican cartels,
there's less precursor chemicals available for them to make this product.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
The DEA says, the cartels are being forced to dilute
their product and even charge more per pill. Right at
the administration for hitting the illicit drug trade from every direction.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
While DEA is focused on the enforcement aspects of the
drug trafficking world. There's also other aspects with the administration
in sami Aria of expertise, where there's diplomatic efforts by
our State Department, the White House engaging with China on
this topic.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Add to this, US Customs and Border Patrol report fentanyl
seizures that the southern border are down by more than
fifty percent. Colorado is one of the top three states
in the nation with the highest amount of seizures. One
example you see in this bodycam video where the Douglas
County Sheriff's Department recently was alerted to a storage facility
where they found one point seven million fentanyl pills. The
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DA John acknowledges the progress, but says they don't want
to minimize the fact that illegal fentanyl can still kill you.
A reminder, this past year, fifty thousand people lost their
lives to fentanyl poisoning.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Well, it's making national news right here out of Colorado,
in our own Douglas County, just to the south and
west of and Verlicia.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Kunya is based here in Colorado.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
You also heard from the DEA Rocky Mountain Division Chief
David Oleski joining US now to start the program.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
George Brockler.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
He is the district attorney in the twenty third the
very district in which this record drug seizure took place,
And of course we spoke with Douglas County Sheriff Darren
Weekly about this as well within the past week. George,
thanks so much for taking the time.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Hey, thanks for having me on your reaction to what.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
You just heard.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
George, both in terms of the increase in drug seizures,
which includes the Douglas County one that you know so
well about, and the fact that the potency of fetanyl
being seized is decreasing significantly.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
I think it's just nothing but good news. If you
add to that the increase in pills, and that's what
the special Agent, George Oleski said, is the increase in
cost of the pills, the decrease in potency. We are
definitely headed the right direction. None of this should be taken,
this mission accomplished. It's not like that at all. It's
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just we are starting to turn the tide. And I
hope people really appreciate that this. A lot of this,
a lot of this has to do with shutting down
that southern border.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
I was just going to ask you that George, how
much of this stems back all the way to the
top and the federal policy set by the Trump administration,
and then there's a derivative effect that makes your job easier.
Sheriff Darren Weekly's job easier. We mentioned David Aleski, his
job is the Rocky Mountain Division chief for the DEA easier.
What does that do in terms of your ability to
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enforce the law?
Speaker 7 (03:37):
It's huge for us one. I think what you're seeing
here is a combination of things that are all law
enforcement related beyond enforcement of that southern border, and that
is you have a very proactive, aggressive DEA. But then
you also have different task forces that exist in this
metro area. We're like minded prosecutors, and I wish I
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could tell you they were everywhere commit resources to these
things to try to really tackle the drugs before they
enter the public stream. Not perfect at that, We're not
perfect that at all. In fact, we had a case
recently where it's not going to turn into a criminal
case at least regarding this initial piece, but I hope
it does later. We found two people deceased inside a
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home in Parker and it appears and we're waiting on
some testing and talk screen stuff to come back. It
appears they had both taken some drugs, not realizing that
they were laced with the super bad stuff, and they
both died right there, and they had been there for
some period of time. So even when it doesn't turn
into a crime, there are ramifications for this that affect
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lives all the time. And I think that there are
other parts of the country that don't dedicate the resources
that law enforcement at the federal and state and local
level do here to get the results that we have.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
And we're kind of a prime target.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
We got I seventy I twenty five.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
We're kind of a.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Good district ution point for the bad guys. I think
all of that stuff, you're going to start to see
more and more numbers that work in our favor.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
George Brockler is the DA and the twenty third he
joins us and again that record drug seizure taking place
just over the past month in Douglas County, in Highland's Ranch,
of all places. It was a good samarian that helped
crack that case. But of course eiseneers open. If you
see something, say something. This helps our law enforcement, that
helps our good sheriff Darren Weekley there in Douglas County,
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and the perpetrator was up north, I believe as well, George,
we talked about this before, but just how this is
an example of the cooperation within the state of Colorado
to battle this very real issue. Whereas Alicia Kune reported
Colorado ranking third in those fentanyl seizures and the level
of crime that we encounter in this state along the
lines of what you.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Just described, I think that's right, and I think that
first up, this is a guy who I believe is
in custody up in Adams County awaiting a prosecution up there,
significant one. There's also federal activity. I believe there's a
federal case in New Mexico that also attempts to tackle
this particular group that they work out of. As you know,
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and I think we've talked about this in the past,
the cartels do a good job of trying to compartmentalize
the different moving pieces of this so that if one
of them goes down, it doesn't bring down the whole cartel.
And that's always the goals to go get the big fish.
I'm anxious to see how much more we can do here.
My great fear is we do something, whether it's this
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year or in a future administration, to reverse shutting down
that southern border, and then all of the great efforts
that we do here are really blunted as you flood
the zone with more drugs. It makes it increasingly difficult
for the good guys.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
To do good work.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
George, I just want you to speak briefly to the
job that your sheriff, Darren Weekly, is doing the entire
department there in doug Coe.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
We talk about this record drug seizure.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I was reporting last week and speaking with the sheriff
about a thirty eight year cold case murder that was
solved due to diligent detective work.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Within that department.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
I mean, how can you put into words the job
that Sheriff Weekly is doing for you?
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Well, I mean, listen, if you're into modern, professional, successful
law enforcement, then this guy's your cup of tea. If
that's not your bag, you're probably not living here. To
begin with, Darren's a phenomenal sheriff. And what I appreciate
about him, having known Darren for many years even before
he became the sheriff, is how he has been in
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every part of that sheriff's office, like he grew up
in that department, so when he finally got into this
position to lead, he already knew the things that he
wanted to do to try to bring this sheriff's office,
which was already good, to that next level. If you
add to that, how he's grown into the public facing
component of being a sheriff, and there is a public
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facing component. This guy has been a real beacon of
light on the criminal justice landscape here in a state
that has shown a specially we out of Denver, a
real reluctance to take pride in being aggressive on stopping crime.
You know, there are parts of the metro area that
are apologists for the things they have to do to
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address crime. They make excuses for the people that commit it.
You don't hear any of that out of Sheriff weekly.
They're able to have compassion and empathy for victims and
at the same time be super aggressive on getting crimes done.
One gripe about the cold case. Why in the world
couldn't they have solved that back when there was a
chance to prosecute that Not kidding, I just you know,
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you know how it is, just these things, there are
so many unsolved murders out there. When the hard work
of investigators and prosecutors results, even in a closing of
a case that can't be prosecuted, it's a good thing.
It's a good thing. It's one measure of justice, and
I appreciate that he is so dedicated to it.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
George Brockler, DA and the twenty third joining us, frequent
guests on the program always appreciate his time. One final
note on the fentanyl front, and George, before we shift gears,
and that is when I think about the record seizure
in Highland's Ranch and the storage unit you just mentioned
a case in Parker. I mean, these are places that
people are moving to like Parker, Highland's Ranch, Douglas County,
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Castle Rock, Castle Pine to get away from the dangers
and the problems and the crimes of the city. And
yet we see this with fentanyl that it doesn't discriminate,
and then it crosses all kind of economic and socio
economics boundaries, et cetera. It hits families and kids that
try a drug that was given to them by a
friend at a party, it's laced with fentanyl, and they're
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dead on the spot. Just how ubiquitous is this problem
for you that you're facing, and even in light of
the Fox News report that we heard, what is your
ongoing battle against it and what does it look like?
Speaker 7 (09:45):
Well, you're right to point out that drugs in particular,
but crime in general, is like water, and it flows
to the places where it can most easily. And that's
why you see Douglas County's numbers. They're not at zero,
and that they can never be at zero. It's just
the nature of a free society and humanity. But our
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numbers are different and better than the jurisdictions that surround us.
In part it's a self selection, as you pointed out,
of citizens who are already inclined to be law abiding.
But the drug stuff, man, it's everywhere. There's no demographic
that isn't touched by drugs. And if you're touched by drugs,
you're touched by fentanyl. And so that's always going to
be an issue. And when you're in an affluent county
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and I hear about this from my kids. Man, in
high schools here in Douglas County. I hear from my
kids so and so had drugs. I know this kid
had drugs, And I'm like, what is going on. These
are kids that are coming from two parent families, upper
middle class families, and yet they still make the same
mistakes we see everywhere else.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
This will be.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
An ongoing problem for generations. I don't know how we
fix this, but the path we've taken up to this point,
which is to treat every single drug dealer like all
they are, is an adapt to trying to make money
instead of the criminals that they are focusing entirely on
rehabilitation and recovery, which is an important component as opposed
towards punishment, and you know, trying to dissuade people from
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engaging it. That's been an utter failure. Well, we've turned
the corner on that now and that's going to be
our focus moving forward.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
George Brockler is the DA in the twenty third. At
one time he was the Day in the eighteenth, and
that would have covered this territory. In this news package
offered up by nine News and Kevin Vaughan on the
issue of competency and the lack thereof and whether a
defendant is fit to stand trial. Here in Colorado, it
is run amuck. This problem is off the rails. And
here's yet another example.
Speaker 9 (11:38):
Nearly eighteen months after a gunfire echoed through in a
Row neighborhood, upending the lives of three innocent people. The
man accused of pulling the trigger remains in jail but
won't ever face a jury. Doctors found Austin Benson incompetent
to stand trial, meaning he's too mentally ill to understand
the proceedings or assist in his own defense. It's not
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the first time he's been accused of doing something like that.
In twenty eighteen, prosecutors charged Benson with attempted murder after
he was accused of randomly shooting at people along at
Douglas County Road. Found incompetent to stand trial with no
hope treatment would change that, a judge dismissed the case,
which was required by state law, and Benson walked free.
Speaker 10 (12:24):
But he is currently being guarded at a hospital with
an officer right now in custody.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
Less than a year later, he was charged with the
Aurora shootings. In this case, the charges are again expected
to be dismissed, but this time Benson won't walk free.
Late this morning, in a court hearing, Benson's attorney said
the plan is to have him committed to a locked
mental health facility where he will be held indefinitely.
Speaker 11 (12:49):
This is unprecedented as creative, and what it does is
protect the public and ensure that Benson will actually receive treatment.
Speaker 9 (12:57):
Nine News legal analyst Scott Robinson prey Benson's attorneys and
prosecutors for coming up with a plan to keep a
mentally ill defendant from being tried and protecting the public.
It would likely take legislation for this kind of resolution
to become common.
Speaker 11 (13:12):
It would be nice to have a statutory provision that
honored the idea that we don't take incompetent people to trial,
but that we also don't simply dismiss the charges and
release them onto the streets to do whatever they do.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
Benson is due back in court January ninth. The plan
could be finalized then. Because doctors found Benson incompetent and
concluded there was no reasonable likelihood treatment would help, the
defense can have the case dismissed. However, attorning David Caplan
said in court today he won't file that motion until
the commitment to a mental health facility is finalized. Caplan
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said this plan protects public safety and guarantees that Benson
will get treatment live in the newsroom, Kevin Vaughan Nine News.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And Kevin, I think a lot of our viewers have
been following this along with you, covering this from more
than a year now.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
I thought to themselves, well, something needs.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
To be done.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Can't happen the way it happened the first time.
Speaker 9 (14:06):
That's right, Phil, And unfortunately, there's no mechanism in Colorado
law to guarantee that something like this happens in cases
where charges are dismissed because of the person's mental illness.
In this case, it's happening because these attorneys decided it
was something that needed to be done.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
All right, Kevin, thank you now, George. This is far
from an isolated incident. It's an epidemic in Colorado. There
are names like Joel Laying, who murdered a lady in
a McDonald's parking lot. I interviewed her daughter on my
program some time ago. This.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Austin Benson just mentioned this story.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
E Fraim Devisa, who Sheriff Steve Reems had to deal
with in Wild County had no choice but to release
him after numerous incidents involving firearms there. And Solomon Gallagan
a mentally ill yet a pedophile registered in Peblo County,
nearly apprehended, nearly kidnapped a fifth grader from an elementary
school playground in broad daylight.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
He was released along these scen lines.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Amy Padden didn't have anywhere to go in the eighteenth
district that you once represented.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
What is going on here?
Speaker 7 (15:09):
This law still remains broken. I'm fascinated by this story,
and there's an aspect of this you can tell. Kevin,
who's a great reporter, has spoken to some attorneys on
this and he did a good job of describing it.
But there's an aspect of this has gone unexplored. One
is I don't want to get too excited about someone
who is committed indefinitely, because indefinitely just means we haven't
picked a date yet. It doesn't mean forever or permanently.
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It's indefinitely. That means, according to the statutes, at some
point some doctors might determine, hey, this guy's good to go,
and he can be released back into the community. It
doesn't have a time limit on It doesn't say it's
got to be a month, a year, ten years. So
I'm not super excited about that. Without knowing more. The
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other piece of this is, and I've heard people in
different radio stations and other folks online comment about, hey,
this is the way forward until we can fix the law.
You remember defense attorneys, and David Kaplan's the former head
of the State Public Defender's Office. This guy knows what
he's doing. In fact, he represented the shooter in the
Stem School shooting, the eighteen year old Dave knows and
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all defense attorneys know that their primary obligation is to
represent their clients, and their client determines what their best
interests are, not the attorney. So short of an order
by the court that says that the defense attorney can
act as the guardian had light him for this person
to make decisions for them and spoiler alert, they can't
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do both. They can't be in both positions. The only
reason this works is if Dave Kaplan talks his client
into a green it's in his best interests to go
into this other setting as opposed to just go back
out into the community. If this guy had a different
point of view and said, no, dude, I don't want
to go in definitely in anywhere. I just want it
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to be over. David couldn't show up to court and say,
my client would like to be released from this case
is dismissed because the law requires it. But I disagree,
and I think this is in his best interest. He
couldn't do that. He'd have to give up his law
license to do something like that. So this feels like
a big fat anomaly to me, and one that should
give nobody. And if there's any legislators listening to this,
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and I know they tune in Ryan, nobody should look
at this and say, well, that's the fix moving forward.
That's a fake fix. This is a one off. This
guy is in a position to demand that the case
be dismissed and not have to go into some sort
of an indefinite housing or being taken off the streets.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
But he was talked.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
My guess is he was talked into it by his.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Defense counsel, George final minute and a half that we
have left, if this Austin Benson, at some point you
point at the indefinitely part, and I agree with you
on that is deemed like, oh now he's free to go,
he's okay. Well then why isn't he okay to have
those charges come right back reinstituted and prosecuted against him
at that moment.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Such a great question. In the old days, as long
as the statute delimitation was still viable, and it would
be I think it would be here. Once a person
was restored to competency, and that was one hundred percent
the goal, then we would bring them back to court
to gin up the prosecution again. Right, And your question
is also smart because it highlights there is a disconnect
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between insanity, which is I didn't know right for wrong
when I did it, and incompetency, which is I may
have known right from wrong when I did it. But man,
this whole court process is too confusing for my little brain.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
George Brockler doing the good work in the twenty third
district as the DA there and again these record drug seizures,
a cold case murder solved after.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Thirty eight years.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Things turning up aces for him, but the battle continues,
as you can hear, especially on this competent se in front. George,
always appreciate your time, my man, Thank you so much
for all you do, and we'll.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Talk against v me all right, sir, take care bye.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
George Brockler. Right there, your response and reaction. At five seven,
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It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot Takes,
charting the forty seven president's epic interactions with a fate
news media an events.
Speaker 12 (21:01):
That you do want to see in America?
Speaker 13 (21:03):
Well, they well, they're certainly contribut Yeah. I want to
see people.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Yeah, I want to see.
Speaker 13 (21:07):
People that contribute. I don't want to see so maaya,
I don't want to see a woman that, you know,
marries a brother to get in and he even becomes
a congressman, does nothing but complaining. All she does is complain, complain, complain,
And yet her country's a mess. You know, it's one
of the worst in the world.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Let her go back tricks up her own country.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
So no Somalia.
Speaker 13 (21:29):
Yeah, and I was right about it, you know, I
started complaining about Somalia blown before the scandal. The horrible,
the horrible things they're doing to Minnesota. It's incredible they
have any confident governor there too. The Democrats are running
some bad ships.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
That's to put it mildly.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
The Democrats are running some bad ships.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
That's President Trump. And to sit down interview with Dasha
Burns of Politico.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Now, she might be best known for really exposing the
decline in real time of John Fetterman during the campaign
for Senate that he was involved with against doctor memet Oz.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Fetterman would win that race and lo and behold.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Once he recovered from the after effects of that stroke,
which were considerable, he has suddenly seen the light.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
And that's why we have our other bit that I like.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
To feature on this program based Fetterman, because he says
what's on his mind, and a lot of times it
is not fitting with the orthodoxy of the Democratic Party.
Dasha Burns took a lot of heat from other members
of the mainstream media from the left for being honest
in her reporting about John Fetterman, and President Trump sat
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down with her for this interview and it went about
as well as you could expect for her at least,
and President Trump getting his message out about ilan Omar.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Now, another part of this story that.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Drew some attention and got some traction locally, here was
my interview with Greg Lopez, a Republican candidate for governors
you well know, and the last time around, going back
to twenty twenty two, it was down to him hiding
and all and Danielle Neuschwanger in the Republican primary, and
Lopez would finish a strong.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Second in that race.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
But when I asked him about President Trump calling ilhan
Omar and those of her ilk and I'm talking about
people around her and a political consultants, constituents, those like
minded Democrats in Minnesota, he called them garbage and Greg
pushed back on that, and a lot of people weren't
fond of Greg saying that my contention was is that
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it's not a productive comment to make. It allows the
narrative to shift, to change, to focus on things that
Donald Trump says to be that red light that the
cat follows, that John Fetterman talked about with the Democrats,
and it changes the subject when there's a very real
scandal in hand and at play here in Minnesota, and
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it just so happens to involve Somali migrants who are
here in this country drawing benefits illegally. I might add
on the taxpayer dime. That should be the focus. This
should be the discipline message that we stay on. But
all too often President Trump he goes into these personal
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attacks and you may like them, you may be entertained
by them. I may like them and be entertained by them,
but then also realize that politically it doesn't track very well.
And sometimes it's best to leave those types of things
up to my good friend Sean Ferish as he embodies
the president. Here, where does President Trump and where does
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Sean Ferish begin?
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Speaker 5 (25:54):
The great Sean ferish there and hopefully we'll have him
back on the program very soon. As the resident of
the United States. You're text at five seven seven three nine.
Stephen Littleton, retired law enforcement officer. Thank you for your service. Steve,
as always, George is the real deal. Talking about George Brockler,
who joined us in our opening segment today, He certainly is,
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and we're thankful for him as the DA in the
twenty third district. Now, this news just breaking from Reuters.
A federal court in New York granted the US Justice
Department's move to unsealed grand jury documents in the case
involving Jeffrey Epstein associate Gallaine Maxwell, who is in prison
for sex trafficking. A court filing on Tuesday said the
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US District Court Southern District of New York cited a
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which is said also allowed the Department to modify a
related protective order issued in July of twenty twenty. Now
this has come back into focus as Marjorie Taylor Green,
congresswoman from Georgia, has made the circuits on the media
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junkets and everything she's doing, all these things acting like
wolf Blitzer and the ladies on the View and these
other mainstream media hacks are her friends.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
They are not.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
They are not, they never were, they never will be.
And that MTG mistakes them for such. Hearkens back to
a time when I would say somebody that should have
been more politically astute than Marjorie Taylor Green. John McCain
tried to win over the mainstream media. Remember this, he
was a maverick. He did the thumbs down on the
repeal of Obamacare, and what did it get him? What
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did all of that get him? In the two thousand
and eight campaign, he was labeled a racist because he
voted against MLK becoming a federal holiday back in the
early nineteen eighties. That's a fact, but it didn't do
him any favors with the media, no matter how much
he railed against George W. Bush in the two thousand campaign,
and I remember it well, no matter how much he
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tried to fancy himself a moderate. Same thing happened to
Mitt Romney when he would go to my home state
and his by the way, Michigan, and when he was asked,
what's your favorite thing about Michigan, and he answered, well, it's.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
The trees and just how tall they are. Here's like, dude,
your father, George Romney.
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Was a highly respected and beloved governor of the state
of Michigan for two terms in the nineteen sixties. You
grew up here in Metro Detroit, affluent Metro Detroit, I
might add, And yet you don't know anything about your
home state.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
What is wrong with you? Man? And then what did
we get?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
We got the binders full of women, We got the
pet on the roof of the car. And he was
an animal abuser, and he was a misogynist Mitt Romney.
People want to wonder and pontificate about why did Donald
Trump happen? Why did our politics get so nasty and
combative because we.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Didn't have fighters in the Republican Party.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
This is something Rush Limbaugh highlighted for many years when
he tepidly endorsed John McCain and Mitt Romney knowing that
they were not the fighters that the Republican Party needed,
and that person revealed himself to be Donald Trump. We
could have gone on that road again with Jeb Bush
and he probably would have gotten his brains beaten in
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by Hillary Clinton because the Republican Party lacked the teeth
to fight the fights that needed to be fought, and
Donald Trump was that fighter. So take the good, you
take the bad, You take them both, and there you
have the facts of life. I know, gen xers, you
finished the line that I just started there, But it's
true Donald Trump happened for very specific reasons, and I
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just outlined those reasons there. So when we hear him
call ilhngulm Omar garbage and the like and say that
he doesn't want people in this country who constantly complain
about this country. Well, he's saying what many people are thinking,
but maybe they're afraid to say. But is he right?
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Is he right?
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Do we want people coming here from countries that they
have abandoned for a better life here that they are
enjoying that we are providing for them?
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It is a privilege, It is a gift to them.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
But it is with the hand extended for a handshake,
that you will contribute and provide something back for the
country that afforded you the opportunity for a better life.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
That's a fair ask.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
And somebody like ilhan Omar turns her nose up at
the United States finds fault with our country. Not that
the we're above criticism, we're not, but at least acknowledge
what makes this country great that you're thankful to be here?
Speaker 6 (30:35):
You've ever heard her say that you haven't? And who
is she really fighting for?
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Is she fighting for the United States or is she
fighting for interest in her home country of Somalia. Where
is this money going that's been illegally procured in the
state of Minnesota by Somali migrants? Why are they getting
it and who are they sending it to? These are
the questions that need to be asked a time out.
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We're back more of your tax at five seven, seven
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We spoke with George.
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Brockler earlier this hour, and we'll speak with Congressman Gabe
Evans eighth Congressional District. That race is heating up on
both sides. He has a Republican challenger in a primary,
Adam Dorito. He joined me live in studio yesterday and
then Democrats being added the field as well after Yadira
Caraveo dropped out. She was the original congresswoman in the
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district as it was first drawn following the twenty twenty census.
Back in twenty twenty two, she narrowly defeated Barb Kirkmeyer
for the eighth Congressional district seat, one of the most
hotly contested congressional seats in the country, where a lot
of focus and a lot of dollars are going to.
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Be coming in.
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In twenty twenty six and twenty twenty four, gave Evans
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gave Evans was declared the winner and he'll joined.
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Us in mere moments after the top of the hour.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
I wish the President would have said, the Democrats are
driving really bad boats instead of ships. Well, we can't
prove that those Narco terrorists on boats coming across from
Venezuela into the Gulf of America are Democrats, although the
Democrat sure seem to be sympathetic toward their cause and
their plight, not sure exactly why, Well, Justice Kintanji Brown
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Jackson once again in the forefront of a hearing Supreme
Court and not really caring about what the actual law is,
only about what she.
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Thinks it should be.
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This about Trump's executive authority, and she gets really heated up.
And I'm running my own board today. So a bearnment
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There we go, put that on pause, and here we go.
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Some issues, some matter, some areas should be handled in
this way by non partisan experts. That Congress is saying
that expertise matters with respect to aspects of the economy
and transportation and the various independent agencies that we have.
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So having a president come in.
Speaker 27 (41:56):
And fire all the scientists and the doctors and economists
and the PhDs and replacing them with loyalists and people
who don't know anything is actually not in the best
interest of the citizens of the United States. These issues
should not be in presidential control.
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So can you speak to me about the.
Speaker 27 (42:16):
Danger of allowing in these various areas, the president to
actually control the Transportation Board and potentially the Federal Reserve
and all these other independent agencies.
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Quick aside what people in Joe Biden's administration, any of
the Three Letter agencies, any of the bureaucracy, the deep state,
were disloyal to him and served up subterfuge from within.
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Think about that for a moment.
Speaker 27 (42:42):
In these particular areas, we would like to have independence.
We don't want the president controlling I guess what I
don't understand from your overarching argument is why that determination
of Congress, which makes perfect sense given its duty to
protect the people of the United States, why that is
subjugated to a concern about the president not being able.
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To control everything.
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I mean, I appreciate there's a conflict between the two,
but one would think under our constitutional design, given the
history of the monarchy and the concerns that the Framers
had about a president controlling everything, that in the clash
between those two congresses view that we should be able
to have independence with respect to certain issues should take precedent.
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She should be asking questions, not answering them. That's what
a Supreme Court justice does. Congressman Gabe Evans next on
Ryan Schuling Live.
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The conservative judges say that ruling didn't afford the Pentagon
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
John.
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This is draw dropping data from the Drug Enforcement Administration.
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The DEA says, the cartels are being forced to dilute
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While DEA is focused on the enforcement aspects of the
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Add to this, US Customs and Border Patrol report fentanyl
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fifty percent. Colorado is one of the top three states
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DA John acknowledges the progress, but says they don't want
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A reminder, this past year, fifty thousand people lost their
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Speaker 5 (01:54):
Well, it's making national news right here out of Colorado,
in our own Douglas County, just to the south and
west of and Verlicia.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Kunya is based here in Colorado.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
You also heard from the DEA Rocky Mountain Division Chief
David Oleski joining US now to start the program.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
George Brockler.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
He is the district attorney in the twenty third the
very district in which this record drug seizure took place,
And of course we spoke with Douglas County Sheriff Darren
Weekly about this as well within the past week. George,
thanks so much for taking the time.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Hey, thanks for having me on your reaction to what.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
You just heard.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
George, both in terms of the increase in drug seizures,
which includes the Douglas County one that you know so
well about, and the fact that the potency of fetanyl
being seized is decreasing significantly.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
I think it's just nothing but good news. If you
add to that the increase in pills, and that's what
the special Agent, George Oleski said, is the increase in
cost of the pills, the decrease in potency. We are
definitely headed the right direction. None of this should be taken,
this mission accomplished. It's not like that at all. It's
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just we are starting to turn the tide. And I
hope people really appreciate that this. A lot of this,
a lot of this has to do with shutting down
that southern border.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
I was just going to ask you that George, how
much of this stems back all the way to the
top and the federal policy set by the Trump administration,
and then there's a derivative effect that makes your job easier.
Sheriff Darren Weekly's job easier. We mentioned David Aleski, his
job is the Rocky Mountain Division chief for the DEA easier.
What does that do in terms of your ability to
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enforce the law?
Speaker 7 (03:37):
It's huge for us one. I think what you're seeing
here is a combination of things that are all law
enforcement related beyond enforcement of that southern border, and that
is you have a very proactive, aggressive DEA. But then
you also have different task forces that exist in this
metro area. We're like minded prosecutors, and I wish I
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could tell you they were everywhere commit resources to these
things to try to really tackle the drugs before they
enter the public stream. Not perfect at that, We're not
perfect that at all. In fact, we had a case
recently where it's not going to turn into a criminal
case at least regarding this initial piece, but I hope
it does later. We found two people deceased inside a
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home in Parker and it appears and we're waiting on
some testing and talk screen stuff to come back. It
appears they had both taken some drugs, not realizing that
they were laced with the super bad stuff, and they
both died right there, and they had been there for
some period of time. So even when it doesn't turn
into a crime, there are ramifications for this that affect
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lives all the time. And I think that there are
other parts of the country that don't dedicate the resources
that law enforcement at the federal and state and local
level do here to get the results that we have.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
And we're kind of a prime target.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
We got I seventy I twenty five.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
We're kind of a.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Good district ution point for the bad guys. I think
all of that stuff, you're going to start to see
more and more numbers that work in our favor.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
George Brockler is the DA and the twenty third he
joins us and again that record drug seizure taking place
just over the past month in Douglas County, in Highland's Ranch,
of all places. It was a good samarian that helped
crack that case. But of course eiseneers open. If you
see something, say something. This helps our law enforcement, that
helps our good sheriff Darren Weekley there in Douglas County,
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and the perpetrator was up north, I believe as well, George,
we talked about this before, but just how this is
an example of the cooperation within the state of Colorado
to battle this very real issue. Whereas Alicia Kune reported
Colorado ranking third in those fentanyl seizures and the level
of crime that we encounter in this state along the
lines of what you.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Just described, I think that's right, and I think that
first up, this is a guy who I believe is
in custody up in Adams County awaiting a prosecution up there,
significant one. There's also federal activity. I believe there's a
federal case in New Mexico that also attempts to tackle
this particular group that they work out of. As you know,
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and I think we've talked about this in the past,
the cartels do a good job of trying to compartmentalize
the different moving pieces of this so that if one
of them goes down, it doesn't bring down the whole cartel.
And that's always the goals to go get the big fish.
I'm anxious to see how much more we can do here.
My great fear is we do something, whether it's this
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year or in a future administration, to reverse shutting down
that southern border, and then all of the great efforts
that we do here are really blunted as you flood
the zone with more drugs. It makes it increasingly difficult
for the good guys.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
To do good work.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
George, I just want you to speak briefly to the
job that your sheriff, Darren Weekly, is doing the entire
department there in doug Coe.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
We talk about this record drug seizure.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I was reporting last week and speaking with the sheriff
about a thirty eight year cold case murder that was
solved due to diligent detective work.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Within that department.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
I mean, how can you put into words the job
that Sheriff Weekly is doing for you?
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Well, I mean, listen, if you're into modern, professional, successful
law enforcement, then this guy's your cup of tea. If
that's not your bag, you're probably not living here. To
begin with, Darren's a phenomenal sheriff. And what I appreciate
about him, having known Darren for many years even before
he became the sheriff, is how he has been in
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every part of that sheriff's office, like he grew up
in that department, so when he finally got into this
position to lead, he already knew the things that he
wanted to do to try to bring this sheriff's office,
which was already good, to that next level. If you
add to that, how he's grown into the public facing
component of being a sheriff, and there is a public
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facing component. This guy has been a real beacon of
light on the criminal justice landscape here in a state
that has shown a specially we out of Denver, a
real reluctance to take pride in being aggressive on stopping crime.
You know, there are parts of the metro area that
are apologists for the things they have to do to
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address crime. They make excuses for the people that commit it.
You don't hear any of that out of Sheriff weekly.
They're able to have compassion and empathy for victims and
at the same time be super aggressive on getting crimes done.
One gripe about the cold case. Why in the world
couldn't they have solved that back when there was a
chance to prosecute that Not kidding, I just you know,
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you know how it is, just these things, there are
so many unsolved murders out there. When the hard work
of investigators and prosecutors results, even in a closing of
a case that can't be prosecuted, it's a good thing.
It's a good thing. It's one measure of justice, and
I appreciate that he is so dedicated to it.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
George Brockler, DA and the twenty third joining us, frequent
guests on the program always appreciate his time. One final
note on the fentanyl front, and George, before we shift gears,
and that is when I think about the record seizure
in Highland's Ranch and the storage unit you just mentioned
a case in Parker. I mean, these are places that
people are moving to like Parker, Highland's Ranch, Douglas County,
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Castle Rock, Castle Pine to get away from the dangers
and the problems and the crimes of the city. And
yet we see this with fentanyl that it doesn't discriminate,
and then it crosses all kind of economic and socio
economics boundaries, et cetera. It hits families and kids that
try a drug that was given to them by a
friend at a party, it's laced with fentanyl, and they're
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dead on the spot. Just how ubiquitous is this problem
for you that you're facing, and even in light of
the Fox News report that we heard, what is your
ongoing battle against it and what does it look like?
Speaker 7 (09:45):
Well, you're right to point out that drugs in particular,
but crime in general, is like water, and it flows
to the places where it can most easily. And that's
why you see Douglas County's numbers. They're not at zero,
and that they can never be at zero. It's just
the nature of a free society and humanity. But our
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numbers are different and better than the jurisdictions that surround us.
In part it's a self selection, as you pointed out,
of citizens who are already inclined to be law abiding.
But the drug stuff, man, it's everywhere. There's no demographic
that isn't touched by drugs. And if you're touched by drugs,
you're touched by fentanyl. And so that's always going to
be an issue. And when you're in an affluent county
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and I hear about this from my kids. Man, in
high schools here in Douglas County. I hear from my
kids so and so had drugs. I know this kid
had drugs, And I'm like, what is going on. These
are kids that are coming from two parent families, upper
middle class families, and yet they still make the same
mistakes we see everywhere else.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
This will be.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
An ongoing problem for generations. I don't know how we
fix this, but the path we've taken up to this point,
which is to treat every single drug dealer like all
they are, is an adapt to trying to make money
instead of the criminals that they are focusing entirely on
rehabilitation and recovery, which is an important component as opposed
towards punishment, and you know, trying to dissuade people from
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engaging it. That's been an utter failure. Well, we've turned
the corner on that now and that's going to be
our focus moving forward.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
George Brockler is the DA in the twenty third. At
one time he was the Day in the eighteenth, and
that would have covered this territory. In this news package
offered up by nine News and Kevin Vaughan on the
issue of competency and the lack thereof and whether a
defendant is fit to stand trial. Here in Colorado, it
is run amuck. This problem is off the rails. And
here's yet another example.
Speaker 9 (11:38):
Nearly eighteen months after a gunfire echoed through in a
Row neighborhood, upending the lives of three innocent people. The
man accused of pulling the trigger remains in jail but
won't ever face a jury. Doctors found Austin Benson incompetent
to stand trial, meaning he's too mentally ill to understand
the proceedings or assist in his own defense. It's not
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the first time he's been accused of doing something like that.
In twenty eighteen, prosecutors charged Benson with attempted murder after
he was accused of randomly shooting at people along at
Douglas County Road. Found incompetent to stand trial with no
hope treatment would change that, a judge dismissed the case,
which was required by state law, and Benson walked free.
Speaker 10 (12:24):
But he is currently being guarded at a hospital with
an officer right now in custody.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
Less than a year later, he was charged with the
Aurora shootings. In this case, the charges are again expected
to be dismissed, but this time Benson won't walk free.
Late this morning, in a court hearing, Benson's attorney said
the plan is to have him committed to a locked
mental health facility where he will be held indefinitely.
Speaker 11 (12:49):
This is unprecedented as creative, and what it does is
protect the public and ensure that Benson will actually receive treatment.
Speaker 9 (12:57):
Nine News legal analyst Scott Robinson prey Benson's attorneys and
prosecutors for coming up with a plan to keep a
mentally ill defendant from being tried and protecting the public.
It would likely take legislation for this kind of resolution
to become common.
Speaker 11 (13:12):
It would be nice to have a statutory provision that
honored the idea that we don't take incompetent people to trial,
but that we also don't simply dismiss the charges and
release them onto the streets to do whatever they do.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
Benson is due back in court January ninth. The plan
could be finalized then. Because doctors found Benson incompetent and
concluded there was no reasonable likelihood treatment would help, the
defense can have the case dismissed. However, attorning David Caplan
said in court today he won't file that motion until
the commitment to a mental health facility is finalized. Caplan
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said this plan protects public safety and guarantees that Benson
will get treatment live in the newsroom, Kevin Vaughan Nine News.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And Kevin, I think a lot of our viewers have
been following this along with you, covering this from more
than a year now.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
I thought to themselves, well, something needs.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
To be done.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Can't happen the way it happened the first time.
Speaker 9 (14:06):
That's right, Phil, And unfortunately, there's no mechanism in Colorado
law to guarantee that something like this happens in cases
where charges are dismissed because of the person's mental illness.
In this case, it's happening because these attorneys decided it
was something that needed to be done.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
All right, Kevin, thank you now, George. This is far
from an isolated incident. It's an epidemic in Colorado. There
are names like Joel Laying, who murdered a lady in
a McDonald's parking lot. I interviewed her daughter on my
program some time ago. This.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
Austin Benson just mentioned this story.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
E Fraim Devisa, who Sheriff Steve Reems had to deal
with in Wild County had no choice but to release
him after numerous incidents involving firearms there. And Solomon Gallagan
a mentally ill yet a pedophile registered in Peblo County,
nearly apprehended, nearly kidnapped a fifth grader from an elementary
school playground in broad daylight.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
He was released along these scen lines.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Amy Padden didn't have anywhere to go in the eighteenth
district that you once represented.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
What is going on here?
Speaker 7 (15:09):
This law still remains broken. I'm fascinated by this story,
and there's an aspect of this you can tell. Kevin,
who's a great reporter, has spoken to some attorneys on
this and he did a good job of describing it.
But there's an aspect of this has gone unexplored. One
is I don't want to get too excited about someone
who is committed indefinitely, because indefinitely just means we haven't
picked a date yet. It doesn't mean forever or permanently.
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It's indefinitely. That means, according to the statutes, at some
point some doctors might determine, hey, this guy's good to go,
and he can be released back into the community. It
doesn't have a time limit on It doesn't say it's
got to be a month, a year, ten years. So
I'm not super excited about that. Without knowing more. The
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other piece of this is, and I've heard people in
different radio stations and other folks online comment about, hey,
this is the way forward until we can fix the law.
You remember defense attorneys, and David Kaplan's the former head
of the State Public Defender's Office. This guy knows what
he's doing. In fact, he represented the shooter in the
Stem School shooting, the eighteen year old Dave knows and
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all defense attorneys know that their primary obligation is to
represent their clients, and their client determines what their best
interests are, not the attorney. So short of an order
by the court that says that the defense attorney can
act as the guardian had light him for this person
to make decisions for them and spoiler alert, they can't
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do both. They can't be in both positions. The only
reason this works is if Dave Kaplan talks his client
into a green it's in his best interests to go
into this other setting as opposed to just go back
out into the community. If this guy had a different
point of view and said, no, dude, I don't want
to go in definitely in anywhere. I just want it
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to be over. David couldn't show up to court and say,
my client would like to be released from this case
is dismissed because the law requires it. But I disagree,
and I think this is in his best interest. He
couldn't do that. He'd have to give up his law
license to do something like that. So this feels like
a big fat anomaly to me, and one that should
give nobody. And if there's any legislators listening to this,
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and I know they tune in Ryan, nobody should look
at this and say, well, that's the fix moving forward.
That's a fake fix. This is a one off. This
guy is in a position to demand that the case
be dismissed and not have to go into some sort
of an indefinite housing or being taken off the streets.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
But he was talked.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
My guess is he was talked into it by his.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Defense counsel, George final minute and a half that we
have left, if this Austin Benson, at some point you
point at the indefinitely part, and I agree with you
on that is deemed like, oh now he's free to go,
he's okay. Well then why isn't he okay to have
those charges come right back reinstituted and prosecuted against him
at that moment.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Such a great question. In the old days, as long
as the statute delimitation was still viable, and it would
be I think it would be here. Once a person
was restored to competency, and that was one hundred percent
the goal, then we would bring them back to court
to gin up the prosecution again. Right, And your question
is also smart because it highlights there is a disconnect
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between insanity, which is I didn't know right for wrong
when I did it, and incompetency, which is I may
have known right from wrong when I did it. But man,
this whole court process is too confusing for my little brain.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
George Brockler doing the good work in the twenty third
district as the DA there and again these record drug seizures,
a cold case murder solved after.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Thirty eight years.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Things turning up aces for him, but the battle continues,
as you can hear, especially on this competent se in front. George,
always appreciate your time, my man, Thank you so much
for all you do, and we'll.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Talk against v me all right, sir, take care bye.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
George Brockler. Right there, your response and reaction. At five seven,
seven thirty nine, we roll on. Still to come. In
our number two today, Representative Gabe Evans in the eighth
Congressional District a primary challenge mounted against him by Adam Derido.
We'll get the congressman's take on the state of things
in our country as we wind down calendar year twenty
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It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot Takes,
charting the forty seven president's epic interactions with a fate
news media an events.
Speaker 12 (21:01):
That you do want to see in America?
Speaker 13 (21:03):
Well, they well, they're certainly contribut Yeah. I want to
see people.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Yeah, I want to see.
Speaker 13 (21:07):
People that contribute. I don't want to see so maaya,
I don't want to see a woman that, you know,
marries a brother to get in and he even becomes
a congressman, does nothing but complaining. All she does is complain, complain, complain,
And yet her country's a mess. You know, it's one
of the worst in the world.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Let her go back tricks up her own country.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
So no Somalia.
Speaker 13 (21:29):
Yeah, and I was right about it, you know, I
started complaining about Somalia blown before the scandal. The horrible,
the horrible things they're doing to Minnesota. It's incredible they
have any confident governor there too. The Democrats are running
some bad ships.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
That's to put it mildly.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
The Democrats are running some bad ships.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
That's President Trump. And to sit down interview with Dasha
Burns of Politico.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Now, she might be best known for really exposing the
decline in real time of John Fetterman during the campaign
for Senate that he was involved with against doctor memet Oz.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Fetterman would win that race and lo and behold.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Once he recovered from the after effects of that stroke,
which were considerable, he has suddenly seen the light.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
And that's why we have our other bit that I like.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
To feature on this program based Fetterman, because he says
what's on his mind, and a lot of times it
is not fitting with the orthodoxy of the Democratic Party.
Dasha Burns took a lot of heat from other members
of the mainstream media from the left for being honest
in her reporting about John Fetterman, and President Trump sat
(22:45):
down with her for this interview and it went about
as well as you could expect for her at least,
and President Trump getting his message out about ilan Omar.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Now, another part of this story that.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Drew some attention and got some traction locally, here was
my interview with Greg Lopez, a Republican candidate for governors
you well know, and the last time around, going back
to twenty twenty two, it was down to him hiding
and all and Danielle Neuschwanger in the Republican primary, and
Lopez would finish a strong.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Second in that race.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
But when I asked him about President Trump calling ilhan
Omar and those of her ilk and I'm talking about
people around her and a political consultants, constituents, those like
minded Democrats in Minnesota, he called them garbage and Greg
pushed back on that, and a lot of people weren't
fond of Greg saying that my contention was is that
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it's not a productive comment to make. It allows the
narrative to shift, to change, to focus on things that
Donald Trump says to be that red light that the
cat follows, that John Fetterman talked about with the Democrats,
and it changes the subject when there's a very real
scandal in hand and at play here in Minnesota, and
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it just so happens to involve Somali migrants who are
here in this country drawing benefits illegally. I might add
on the taxpayer dime. That should be the focus. This
should be the discipline message that we stay on. But
all too often President Trump he goes into these personal
(24:21):
attacks and you may like them, you may be entertained
by them. I may like them and be entertained by them,
but then also realize that politically it doesn't track very well.
And sometimes it's best to leave those types of things
up to my good friend Sean Ferish as he embodies
the president. Here, where does President Trump and where does
(24:41):
Sean Ferish begin?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Well, Merry Christmas to all of you.
Speaker 14 (24:45):
Kis the season to deport them. Follow la la la la.
We love Ice and we support them. Follow la la
la la la and them on one way vacations. Fa
la la la la la la la la. Ramp up
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those mass deportations. Falla la la la la la la la.
We've deported millions so far. Falla la la la la
la la. Next will deport il han Omar. Falla la
la la la la la la. Look at how those
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thugs are acting. Falla la la la la la la la.
Let's send those bad ambres packing. Folla la la la
la la la la. As your favorite president who gets
along very well with Santa Claus, a gift to you
is mass deportations. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
The great Sean ferish there and hopefully we'll have him
back on the program very soon. As the resident of
the United States. You're text at five seven seven three nine.
Stephen Littleton, retired law enforcement officer. Thank you for your service. Steve,
as always, George is the real deal. Talking about George Brockler,
who joined us in our opening segment today, He certainly is,
(26:14):
and we're thankful for him as the DA in the
twenty third district. Now, this news just breaking from Reuters.
A federal court in New York granted the US Justice
Department's move to unsealed grand jury documents in the case
involving Jeffrey Epstein associate Gallaine Maxwell, who is in prison
for sex trafficking. A court filing on Tuesday said the
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US District Court Southern District of New York cited a
recent law pass by Congress in issuing its order and opinion,
which is said also allowed the Department to modify a
related protective order issued in July of twenty twenty. Now
this has come back into focus as Marjorie Taylor Green,
congresswoman from Georgia, has made the circuits on the media
(27:00):
junkets and everything she's doing, all these things acting like
wolf Blitzer and the ladies on the View and these
other mainstream media hacks are her friends.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
They are not.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
They are not, they never were, they never will be.
And that MTG mistakes them for such. Hearkens back to
a time when I would say somebody that should have
been more politically astute than Marjorie Taylor Green. John McCain
tried to win over the mainstream media. Remember this, he
was a maverick. He did the thumbs down on the
repeal of Obamacare, and what did it get him? What
(27:34):
did all of that get him? In the two thousand
and eight campaign, he was labeled a racist because he
voted against MLK becoming a federal holiday back in the
early nineteen eighties. That's a fact, but it didn't do
him any favors with the media, no matter how much
he railed against George W. Bush in the two thousand campaign,
and I remember it well, no matter how much he
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tried to fancy himself a moderate. Same thing happened to
Mitt Romney when he would go to my home state
and his by the way, Michigan, and when he was asked,
what's your favorite thing about Michigan, and he answered, well, it's.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
The trees and just how tall they are. Here's like, dude,
your father, George Romney.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Was a highly respected and beloved governor of the state
of Michigan for two terms in the nineteen sixties. You
grew up here in Metro Detroit, affluent Metro Detroit, I
might add, And yet you don't know anything about your
home state.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
What is wrong with you? Man? And then what did
we get?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
We got the binders full of women, We got the
pet on the roof of the car. And he was
an animal abuser, and he was a misogynist Mitt Romney.
People want to wonder and pontificate about why did Donald
Trump happen? Why did our politics get so nasty and
combative because we.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Didn't have fighters in the Republican Party.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
This is something Rush Limbaugh highlighted for many years when
he tepidly endorsed John McCain and Mitt Romney knowing that
they were not the fighters that the Republican Party needed,
and that person revealed himself to be Donald Trump. We
could have gone on that road again with Jeb Bush
and he probably would have gotten his brains beaten in
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by Hillary Clinton because the Republican Party lacked the teeth
to fight the fights that needed to be fought, and
Donald Trump was that fighter. So take the good, you
take the bad, You take them both, and there you
have the facts of life. I know, gen xers, you
finished the line that I just started there, But it's
true Donald Trump happened for very specific reasons, and I
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just outlined those reasons there. So when we hear him
call ilhngulm Omar garbage and the like and say that
he doesn't want people in this country who constantly complain
about this country. Well, he's saying what many people are thinking,
but maybe they're afraid to say. But is he right?
Speaker 8 (29:56):
Is he right?
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Do we want people coming here from countries that they
have abandoned for a better life here that they are
enjoying that we are providing for them?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
It is a privilege, It is a gift to them.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
But it is with the hand extended for a handshake,
that you will contribute and provide something back for the
country that afforded you the opportunity for a better life.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
That's a fair ask.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
And somebody like ilhan Omar turns her nose up at
the United States finds fault with our country. Not that
the we're above criticism, we're not, but at least acknowledge
what makes this country great that you're thankful to be here?
Speaker 6 (30:35):
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We spoke with George.
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Brockler earlier this hour, and we'll speak with Congressman Gabe
Evans eighth Congressional District. That race is heating up on
both sides. He has a Republican challenger in a primary,
Adam Dorito. He joined me live in studio yesterday and
then Democrats being added the field as well after Yadira
Caraveo dropped out. She was the original congresswoman in the
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district as it was first drawn following the twenty twenty census.
Back in twenty twenty two, she narrowly defeated Barb Kirkmeyer
for the eighth Congressional district seat, one of the most
hotly contested congressional seats in the country, where a lot
of focus and a lot of dollars are going to.
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Be coming in.
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In twenty twenty six and twenty twenty four, gave Evans
narrowly unseated Yadira Caraveo in an election that required ballot
curing after the fact, and once that process was completed,
gave Evans was declared the winner and he'll joined.
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Us in mere moments after the top of the hour.
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I wish the President would have said, the Democrats are
driving really bad boats instead of ships. Well, we can't
prove that those Narco terrorists on boats coming across from
Venezuela into the Gulf of America are Democrats, although the
Democrat sure seem to be sympathetic toward their cause and
their plight, not sure exactly why, Well, Justice Kintanji Brown
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Jackson once again in the forefront of a hearing Supreme
Court and not really caring about what the actual law is,
only about what she.
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Thinks it should be.
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This about Trump's executive authority, and she gets really heated up.
And I'm running my own board today. So a bearnment
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There we go, put that on pause, and here we go.
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With the sound.
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Some issues, some matter, some areas should be handled in
this way by non partisan experts. That Congress is saying
that expertise matters with respect to aspects of the economy
and transportation and the various independent agencies that we have.
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So having a president come in.
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And fire all the scientists and the doctors and economists
and the PhDs and replacing them with loyalists and people
who don't know anything is actually not in the best
interest of the citizens of the United States. These issues
should not be in presidential control.
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So can you speak to me about the.
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Danger of allowing in these various areas, the president to
actually control the Transportation Board and potentially the Federal Reserve
and all these other independent agencies.
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Quick aside what people in Joe Biden's administration, any of
the Three Letter agencies, any of the bureaucracy, the deep state,
were disloyal to him and served up subterfuge from within.
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Think about that for a moment.
Speaker 27 (42:42):
In these particular areas, we would like to have independence.
We don't want the president controlling I guess what I
don't understand from your overarching argument is why that determination
of Congress, which makes perfect sense given its duty to
protect the people of the United States, why that is
subjugated to a concern about the president not being able.
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To control everything.
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I mean, I appreciate there's a conflict between the two,
but one would think under our constitutional design, given the
history of the monarchy and the concerns that the Framers
had about a president controlling everything, that in the clash
between those two congresses view that we should be able
to have independence with respect to certain issues should take precedent.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
She should be asking questions, not answering them. That's what
a Supreme Court justice does. Congressman Gabe Evans next on
Ryan Schuling Live.
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Remember to take time.
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To reflect on what matters most this holiday season, like family, friends.
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In God.
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We are in such a blessed country and we all
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ABC News, I'm Wayne Cabot. The government's ban on transgenders
in the military can stand, says a DC appeals court
ABC Stephen Portnoy.
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The conservative judges say that ruling didn't afford the Pentagon
enough deference as it sets the military's medical standards. Obama
appointed judge Cornelia Pillar dissented, saying the ban will cause
thousands of qualified service members to lose careers built over decades.
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That decision today from a federal judge in New York.
President Trump is addressing what's billed as a town hall
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