October 8, 2025 • 35 mins
George Brauchler, 23rd District Attorney joins Ryan to break down Colorado attorney general Phil Weiser's response to the United States Supreme Court taking up the Chiles v. Salazar case on what counseling therapists are allowed to advise children with gender dysphoria.
This is the THIRD such case involving religious liberty in Colorado, with the previous two rulings going against the state (Masterpiece Cakeshop, Jack Phillips; 303 Creative, Lorie Smith). How many more bites at the apple will the state of Colorado get in its hostile lawfare against religious conservatives?
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This is the THIRD such case involving religious liberty in Colorado, with the previous two rulings going against the state (Masterpiece Cakeshop, Jack Phillips; 303 Creative, Lorie Smith). How many more bites at the apple will the state of Colorado get in its hostile lawfare against religious conservatives?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This Court has shown us before they're willing to go
far outside their headlights. They're not as sensitive around LGBTQ
equality as I wish they were, So we're gonna have
to wait and see. What I can say is I'm
proud of the argument we made, and I'm gonna keep
fighting for equal rights for all and to make sure
that the LGBTQ community in Colorado knows that we've got
(00:20):
their back.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's candidate for Governor and current Attorney General for the
State of Colorado, Phil Wiser, and the state of Colorado
under Democrat rule seems like they cannot learn their lesson
on this issue of religious liberty. They have lost twice before.
As you will hear in Just a Moment Wiser in
a sit down interview with Comrade Kyle of nine News
(00:44):
Kyle Clark talking about the latest case, Chiles versus Salazar
that is before the Supreme Court of the United States now.
In the previous two the Masterpiece Cake Shop case with
our good friend Jack Phillips, court ruled in his favor
that he did not have to bake cakes that were
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in conflict with his religious beliefs, messages that would be
in conflict with that which he held to be sacred
and dear and for him, there was, in my opinion,
an unreasonable request made of Jack Phillips, and it was ridiculous.
And there are so many other bakeries and cake shops
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that an individual could choose from. Didn't have to go
to Jack Phillips, didn't have to go to Masterpiece Cake Shop.
Could have went to any of his competitors and Jack
would have been fine with that. Could have left a
nasty review. Oh, Jack's a Christian. He won't serve, you know,
make a cake with Satan and a dildo on it,
because that was one of the requests. By the way,
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going to call it what it is, tell it like
it is. Jack might be too modest to say it
in those crass of terms, but there it is. Didn't
want to do that, shouldn't have to do that. And
the Supreme Court ruled in his favor. Go to any
other cake shop. He doesn't have to make it for you.
And like I said, you can leave a bad Yelp review,
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leave a bad review on Google reviews, do it, but
then take your business elsewhere. He is not compelled to
express speech that he does not agree with from a
religious standpoint, same case, flash forward, Laurie Smith three or
three creative didn't want to create a website for a
gay wedding. Well State at Colorado felt otherwise, didn't learn
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from their Jack Phillips experience, took it all away the
Supreme Court and lost again. And here we have a
third bite at the apple, and Kyle Clark asks him
about that.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That sounds an awful lot like you tend to agree
with the legal observers who think you're gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
We knew going into this case that this Supreme Court,
we just had this recently in a three or through
creative case where it was about protecting civil rights protection.
And in that case it was a similar type of Pandora's.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Box, Pandora's box of what again, you're gonna lose a
third straight case. Kyle's right on that because you cannot
infringe upon the religious liberty of individuals, you can't compel
them to express speech that they don't agree with with
their own independent creations. In this case, Chile's v. Salas
Are is about whether or not a therapist properly trained, certified,
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can sit down with a child experiencing gender dysphoria and
present that child with a menu of options, one of
which might be you are not the opposite gender. Can't
do that. Can only affirm the child's gender and say yes,
if you are a biological boy and you feel uncomfortable
in your body that you think you might be a girl,
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well then you are a girl. We have to say that,
and if we don't, we're in conflict with Colorado law.
Here's Kyle Clark with those details.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Colorado could be headed for its third recent loss before
the Supreme Court on similar cases involving free speech and
religious liberty. The Masterpiece cake shop case, the baker who
didn't want to make custom cakes for same sex weddings,
three ZHO three creative, a website designer who didn't want
to make wedding websites for same sex couples. And now
this free speech challenge to Colorado's conversion therapy ban.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
It's more Phil Wiser in a moment but joining us
his former foe and opponent in the Attorney General's race
way back when he is the twenty third district attorney
in Douglas County, and he joins us on Ryan Schuling
Live George Brockler, George, thanks for taking the time.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Buddy, Thanks for having me on. I appreciate that, and
thanks for the disclaimer that everyone needs to hear anytime
I talk about Big Phil, and that is I lost
to Phil in twenty eighteen for attorney general. He won
in a full and fair election, and he is the
right for attorney general. So many people, whenever I'm critical
of this guy, are like, well, you're just upseick ause
you lost.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Of course I'm disappointed in losing, but these criticisms are legit.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Two points, just briefly on the twenty eighteen election. One,
I think go well for Republicans up and down the ballot.
And for point two, I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
your race was the closest for Republican candidate. Correct, not
just the closest.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
It remains the closest for any statewide race since that time,
and in the history of the state of Colorado, no
Republican running for a state constitutional office has received more
votes than I have, and that remains true seven years later.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Very interesting. George Brockler twenty third DA joining US. So
I wanted you, George, from your perspective and the legal realm,
to provide the counterpoint to what we just heard and
why we're living this kind of groundhog day on the
issue of religious liberty and how many more times this
has to go this very same issue in a different
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shade of color or whatever before the Supreme Court of
the United States for them to make the same ruling.
Is Colorado going to get to do this fourth a
fifth time? At what point can the courts go, look,
there's a precedent set here. This has been asked and
answer this is he's been adjudicated. You can't just keep
bringing this case before the.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Courts if you accept the premise that Phil represents the
most upper partisan attorney general we've had in our state's history,
and any metric you want to use bears that out.
For instance, he brags about having sued Trump, I think
every hour on the hour for the seven years he's
(06:24):
been in office, but couldn't find a way to sue
Joe Biden's administration a single time, despite the fact that
there were one hundred and thirty multi state lawsuits against him,
couldn't find one to join. But the topic here, and
I appreciate that he sat down with Kyle Clark, But
one thing you know about Phil is Phil hates confrontation.
(06:46):
Phil is all about platitudes, and we're going to fight
for this and collaboration and cooperation. And I'm here to
listen and I'm going to keep fighting for Colorado.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But one thing the dude won't.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Do is take hard questions from someone that he uses
adverse to him. And so when he sits down with Kyle,
you know right away there's going to be a kind of.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Tenor to this.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
And if you listen to the questions that were edited
out of however long that interview was, Kyle didn't disappoint
him because the question should not have been to Phil. Hey,
this looks like the third time you're about to get
kicked in the jurisprudence junk over this stuff. Is Colorado
hostile to faith based whatever? That's not the question. The
question is you're about to lose for the fourth time
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on a First Amendment issue in a number of years.
The case in not Counting is one that our office
successfully prosecuted and got convicted a dude for threats he'd
made to a woman on a stocking charge. And somehow
Phil's team fumbled the ball at the Supreme Court, and
so badly, by the way, Ryan that all three liberal
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justices voted against Phil. All three liberal justices voted against
Phil on this First Amendment issue. The bigger question that
Kyle should have asked is why can't you win on
First Amendment issues? Why do you keep taking cases that
you can't seem to figure out how to win. That's
a legitimate question, and it should be a question you
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ask of any prosecutor, anybody who goes to court, like,
talk to me your win loss ratio. This guy right now,
Phil Wiser is becoming the Colorado Rockies of Supreme Court jurisprudence.
And I'm not trying to malign the Rockies how they
could be doing better than Phil. I think we should
demand to know from Phil how many Supreme Court cases
has your office argued since you've been in office, and
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how many have you won.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
George Brockler joining US twenty third District attorney would be
much more qualified. In my view, I am incredibly biased.
I'm a fan of George's but as Attorney general, based
on what you're just hearing from him right there. But
to revisit that exchange that George just described here is
that issue of hostility toward religious conservatives from Comrade Kyle, is.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
The law in Colorado hostile to religious conservatives?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Not at all that Colorado's law has an exemption. If
what you're engaged in israel religious guidance ministry.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
The law doesn't apply to you.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
The law applies to people who are professionals, who get
a license from the state and who have an obligation
to provide a standard of care that's legitimate.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
The Supreme Court may reach.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
To get to some result here, but it's to my mind,
a dangerous move because it's knock grounded in facts, and
it would open up this Pandora's box, allowing people to
say I'm going to practice whatever type of medicine I
want because I've got some First Amendment interest in doing so.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay, there's so much to unpack there, George, but I
want to bullet point it on a couple of issues there. One,
he's exactly wrong about the religious conservative aspect of this.
He says you have to be engaged in a ministry.
That's not true. We saw it with the business practice
of Jack Phillips and Masterpiece Cake Shop, and in the
business practice of Lorie Smith at three h three Creative.
(09:49):
So that's shot out of the water right there, and
then this whole conflation toward the end. I want you
to comment on that as well. Between what has been
much criticized, I would criticize it too. Pray the gay
away of conversion therapy that you're not really day, you're straight,
and we're going to put you through therapy until you
are straight. I know, at least from my experience dealing
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with people, dealing with my cousin, dealing with friends of mine,
that some people are born gay. But put that aside
for a moment, because that's being conflated with so called
conversion therapy. Of telling a child who's experiencing gender dysphoria
that they may not be the opposite gender. You cannot
offer that up though you have to adhere to the
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science that's approved by Phil Wiser. Your turn. Yeah, listen.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
There's so much about that interview that concerns me. But
his description there is so deliberately misleading because he says
whatever decision that the Supreme Court may make that's against
him would be a reach and it's not based on
the facts. The facts are these, This licensed, trained, qualified
therapist engages in talk therapy right like she's not saying
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you should put leeches on your eye balls to cure
the cough.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
It's not like that kind of regulated thing.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
It's top therapy.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
It's premised on the ability to communicate and engage with
these people. It's not like sticking needles in arms. But
the bigger part is this. This is a woman who
said at the trial court level, listen, people come to me,
kids come to me and say, I'm struggling with this.
I don't want to have these feelings, or I want
to have help with these attractions that I'm having. Just
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I want to have help with this. And what Colorado's
law says is you may not help them. We will
define for you what help is, and what help is.
You must embrace whatever that road they're going down is,
and you can do nothing to try to talk them
out of it or to discourage them from doing it.
And if that's not first Amendment, man, then we don't
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have a first amendment. The other part that concerns me
about this. You heard that you played this in your
first clip. Ran It was a great one when he
said the Supreme Court isn't as sensitive to LGBTQ issues
as i'd like them to be well. I don't want
them to be sensitive to LDBBTQ issues as much as
I want them to be sensitive to something called the
friggin Constitution.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
And the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And if the Bill Rights comes out one way, by God,
that's the way it's got to come up with this
idea that we've carved out these specialty concerns that should
trump the idea what's the First Amendment and the role
the government should play and how you communicate with others
and what.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You have to say.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Buddy, this is what makes this guy so dangerous. He
is an academic pretending to be a prosecutor.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Ouch George Brockler, twenty third District Attorney, joining us in
breaking down this conversation again. Third bite at the apple
on religious liberty alone, following in the footsteps of the
Masterpiece Cake Shop case involving Jack Phillips, the three ZHO
three creative case involving Lourie Smith. And this is Chiles v.
Salazar about whether, and George put it so brilliantly, a
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talk therapist. So a counselor that's offering advice verbal has
the right to express his or her trained, educate opinion
on whether or not a child is experiencing gender dysphoria,
is transgender the opposite gender might not be real that
back in a little bit, kid might just be gay.
Kid might grow out of gender dysphoria. And there are
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studies showing that north of eighty percent of children who
expend or experience gender dysphoria grow out of it in
a way. Either they're gay or they it's a phase
and they go through it, and it's part of the
confusion of going through puberty and not really knowing who
you are. We've all gone through it, including Phil Weiser.
I might bet and here is the final clip from
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that interview with comrade Guyline News.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
You're not a legislator, you're a litigator. But do you see,
based on what you heard from the court that there
would be a way for Colorado to achieve its aims
to a slightly different methodology than what we currently have.
If they don't like the current setup.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
We're going to work really hard to try to do that.
The first Amendment doctrine if they go that way, would
be to say we've got to show under strict scrutiny,
which is a demanding standard that the regulation can be justified.
If that's where the court lands, We're going to do
our very best to justify as much protection as we can.
Because we know that lgbtqth are harmed by this practice.
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We want to make sure they're protected. We're going to
do whatever we can to make that happen.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
See, he doesn't look at the other side of the coin,
whereas we've seen many who have detransitioned George, and it's
a it's a tragic tale that they thought they were
trans they tried to go through the surgical reassignment, surgery,
the hormone therapy, the puberty blockers, and then at the
end of the day they realized I didn't want to
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do that, and you can undo it. So he's not
talking about those harms to the LGBTQ community, that they
might not even be part of the so called community,
and that those surgeries, Frankenstein and the nature that they
are cannot be undone. He's not concerned about that, just
the validation under all circumstances that a child's experiencing genderness,
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for you must be affirmed, and that's the the only
stance you can have. That sounds a little fascisticky, it's super.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Scary man, especially for someone who is the parent of kids.
And everybody who is out there listening to this, know
that from time to time, your kids have thoughts, complicated thoughts,
conflicting thoughts. Sometimes they think they're Superman. Sometimes they think
they want to be the pet dog or something. But
kids go through things, and you help them to grow
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out of these things. Right based on what they're exposed to.
This law says you can't do it. In fact, one
of the great arguments I listened to the entire Supreme
Court argument yesterday. One of the arguments that the people
resisting this law put out there is to say, listen,
if you say that the state can do this, you've
opened the door to other states saying things at different times,
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like you can't counsel someone to embrace their homosexuality, you
can't encourage them to go down that road. And I
think that's a compelling thing. But the real trick here
is when Phil brought up strict scrutiny, because there is
a way for government to get to intervene here, even in.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
A practice like this.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
But what Phil doesn't want and what he argued against
is please don't make us hard for us to prove
that we're doing that, because that's strict scrutiny. What he
and his employee argued, his solicitor argued was keep it
at the lowest possible standard that you can, so we
can fall right over it based on whatever justifications we want,
with whatever breadth of law that we.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Want to have. That's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
My guess is this comes back maybe sevent to He
may lose Kagan again, who, by the way, pen the
opinion blowing him up on the counterman case that we want.
At the trial court, she could end up going. It
could go seven to two against him. The only issue
will be do they overturn the law and apply strict
scrutiny or do they send it back to the state
courts and say you must apply strict scrutiny. Let's see
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what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
George Brockler, twenty third DA joining us. Final point here, George,
I mentioned the three high profile cases, and we're kind
of listing those in order. You mentioned a fourth. Now
I'm thinking back. I know that Phil Wiser as Attorney
General supported the effort to keep Donald Trump off the
primary ballot. That was a nine to nothing taste was
that the other one you were referring to. Was there
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another one?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
No that, well, you know what, I hadn't even thought
of that one, Ryan, that's another one we should look at. No,
this was one called Counterman, which was decided about two
years ago, maybe June of two thousand and twenty three,
And it was based off of a stocking conviction that
my office got when I was the DA eighteenth, that
my office got against a scary dude saying some pretty
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scary things. We went at the trial level, went at
the appellate level, makes it all the way to the
Supreme Court, and somehow this dude and his team fumble
the ball in the Supreme Court and comes back and
gets blown up seven to two, and this guy's conviction
gets undone over it. And it's another First Amendment case.
This guy struggles with the role of government in the
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First Amendment. And it's not just religious freedom. This guy
wants government to you want to think, how to think,
and how to say it and when to say it.
That's a problem. If this guy's frustrated with the Supreme
Court now that keeps crushing him on these arguments, what
kind of judges he put on our own benches. If
he were to be elected governor, what kind of litmus
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test would he make the next Supreme Court justices he
appoints go through to prove that they'd be willing to
bend over backwards to allow government to get into our mouths.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Parents the thought on that one. But I don't think
Phil Wiser is doing himself any favors, as George put it,
being the equivalent all due respect on the Colorado Rockies
and illegal realm and his win loss record there. George
Brockler DA in the twenty third taking some time with
us to break this down today. George always appreciate your time,
your contributions. Thanks so much, and we'll talk to you
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again soon. Thanks her, Thanks thanks for having me George
Brockler G Brock as we call him. Your thoughts, you're reactional.
We got a lot of texts coming in five seven, seven,
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you know is that I like to have a good time.
And if there's another thing that you might know, I'm
a big fan of Wild County, of its Sheriff Steve Eames,
and our listening audience, sometimes a guest on the program. Heck,
sometimes he's filling in on the mic for Dan Kapliss
and maybe for me at one point looking forward to that.
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So when you put those two things together, having a
good time Weld County, what do you get? Will you
get the fall hoe down with the Weld County GOP
and the slogan for the event work hard, Play hard,
They definitely do the former, and we're looking to do
a little bit more of the latter. With Keith Anderson
joining us now. He's the chair of the World County
Republican Party Public Relations Committee and he joins us on
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Ryan Schuling Live. Keith, Welcome, Hey, Ryan le love.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
We love you equally up here in world.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well really appreciate that. Thank you very much, Keith, And
for our listeners out there that might be hearing from
you for the first time, tell us a little bit
about your background on how you came to be in
charge of the pr committee for the World County Republicans.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
So, Hanna Rivera, if you haven't had him on, please
He took over as the Wealth County care up here
and he made a real hard push to start getting
some committees going. I actually got put on a couple
of those committees as well. A few people are volunteered,
and his big push is just trying to get more
people involved, more people doing things. They can't be just
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one person at the top that's expected to do all
those things. And so as we got that going, we
worked also on the Volunteers and Manage Committee. We just
started looking at events and what can be doing to
be more active.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's really easy during.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Especially non election years to kind of sen Or Laurels
A well Wealth kicked butt in twenty twenty four for
five seats, and so that's the work hard part that
he pointed to. We knew we had the work bar part.
Now we wanted to have you'll have more fun and
be able to connect more Republicans together. And that was
kind of where this whole event started, was with hiring
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and putting together a team that just wanted to figure
out something. And it's been a pivot, few pivots from
there and now we got something going.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And what they have doing is the Weld County fall
Holdown that is coming up Saturday, October twenty fifth and
occasional fill in host for this program, Jimmy Sangenberg are
going to be a part of that. Keith, what are
some other details that people need to know?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
So, yeah, Jimmy's going to be there. We actually kind
of stole the event from Summit County. I want to
give them a shout out. Lori Cootinelli, who's kicking butt
as their chair up there, they did a very similar event.
I talked to her about how successful that was and
I'm not the kind of person who wants to reinvent
the wheel. I think it's really important to be as
efficient with your parliament for as possible, So I'm trying
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to copy most of what she did, including booking Jimmy
to be a speaker there. She also set me up
with who was there. They have a live band. They
had a different band. But when I reach out to her,
she's unavailable because sus actually that he get an award
the same day. But I asked her if she could
refer me to somebody else, So we have bry Joe
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in the I will stand. There's stories out of birthday,
so she she might be on the other side of
the county line. I haven't established. I haven't an ass
he specifically where she lives. She's gone close to Weld
County and so she's young and youthful, and that was
kind of an important part. We're setting this a man
up again with Kidney. He's going to be speaking tied
to the whole youth engagement. We didn't want to make
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that hyper political. We're not having a bunch of politicians speak.
Hunter has insisted that if Lauren and Gabe were able
to make it they get a short two minutes to
speak the crowd, but other than that, we're not We're
not making it all about candidates and talking and some
more about having fun. So we have a we're kicking
it off with a trunk retreat. That is an area
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of candidates are going to be able to get to
take some photos and be a little bit more active involved.
So we want to make sure kids are able to
be involved with the whole thing and have some fun.
So they can come with their costumes and anyone who
hasn't done a trunk retreat, it's basically they're going to
decorate their cars and give out candy from the back
of the So that's none from five thirty to six thirty.
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Our doors officially open at six pm. Music can stuffhould
be started about got seven. We have barbecue is going
from Georgia Boys over in free leaves, so it was
great to be able to get them for food. We're
going to have a silent auction we'll put trying to
put together for some of the higher price items a
live auction. Live auctions are a lot more fun to
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sign auctions, so some of those things are still kind
of in the works, but overall, the rest of the music,
the speaker, all this book and ready to go, so
we want people to come out and have good time.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Looking forward to that. Once again, it's the Wild County
GOP Fall Hodown. It's Saturday, October twenty fifth. He mentions
the trunk or tree kind of a Halloween preview there
a few days beforehand. Kids can get candy there safely,
of course, from five point thirty to six thirty pm.
Doors open at six with the live music that he
mentioned by Dori, Joe and the Double Standards, some really
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good barbecue from Georgia Boys as he mentioned, and Jimmy
Sangenberger will be the featured speaker. They'll have a lot
of stuff going on in that It's at a gathering
place event center in Lasane, Colorado. To any of you
that are in Weld County, be sure to check this
out and you could do so online at weldcountygp dot com.
It's just that simple Weld County GOP dot com. And
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even if you're not in Weld County, there's always a
reason to go. There are good people up there and
we appreciate them and all they're doing to put this
event on the Weld County gop fall Holdown. A final
word from you, Keith on the event itself or anything
anybody needs to know about the Weld County Republicans at
this time.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Well, and I want to put off your point there
about people from other counties. It's really important this group
that we fall together and starting with this event is
to build momentum. Weld has the history of being pretty
read that we did have to flip those five seats
to really reinforce that we want to be able to
create kind of playbook and standard for other counties to follow. Again,
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I took this from Summit County and making a few
changes here and there to make it for us. But
when things are successful and they work, they work. So
I definitely want people from other counties to come. If
they can't make it that this, they're welcome to reach
out to me and we can try to help them
kind of guide them on getting their own event. A
similar thing going, because I'd love to see Weld especially
bleed over into Larimer County and into Adams County going
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into twenty twenty sixth. That way we can start flipping
some more seats and really went back Colorado. So I
appreciate you mentioning that fact and everything that we do,
we're trying to try to lead the way where we can.
We're not waiting for anybody else to come in and
save us, and we're happy to help anybody who wants to.
And if people wanting, if they don't go to the website,
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they'll also go check out the Weld at well. The
CEO gop on x. I've been putting out marketing stuff
there so they'll be able to click on the link
and get their tickets or check out our Facebook Weld
County Republican Party Facebook. Again keeping some marketing right now.
We have a deal going on that if you buy
one ticket, you get kids ticket for free. So that's
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going to go through Sunday night. And again we're really
trying to get family involved. We're trying to get youth
involved too. That was a big priority, so we do
offer a more price ticket fifty dollars for anybody under
the age of thirty. This is kind of game planning
pre September tenth and everything. I went down with that,
but I think it's really important that we get youth involved.
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That's been my stance since I got involved in January,
and I think now more than ever, we need to
get young people started early and let's stake back to state.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Sounds good and that's a good way to do it
and a fun way to do it. Put on your
calendar for Saturday, October twenty fifth. It all gets started
at five thirty, goes to about nine to nine thirty
and that is once again the Weld County GOP Fall
hold Down. More information online, easy website to remember weldcountygp
dot com. He is Keith Anderson, chairer of the Weld
County Republican Party Public Relations Committee. Keith, great work, thanks
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for all you do, and best of luck with this event.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I'll see you there all right.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Joining us for the first time on Ryan Schuling Live
and looking forward to Jimmy Sangenberger is the featured speaker
at the World County gop fallodown that is Saturday, October
twenty fifth. A break, We're back your texts five, seven, seven,
thirty nine, rounding out our number one of Ryan Shuling Live.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
They are scrapping and grasping at straws because they have
nothing else.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Laugh at them.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Stephen Miller is a clown I've never seen that guy
in real life, but he looks like he's like four ten,
and he looks like he is angry about.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
The fact that he's four ten.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Like, laugh at them, laugh at them. This is about
insecure masculinity. And one of the best ways that you
can dismantle a movement of insecure men is by making
fun of them.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Sick burn AOC with the LF line He's an angry elf.
Remember scene with Will Ferrell and Peter Dnklige, the genius
children's book writer that comes in to consult James Kahn
and his entire operation. There. Wow, she just you know,
spiked the football, dunked on the little Stephen Miller's like
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four foot ten. Wait a minute. First of all, Jesse
Waters reports that Steven Miller's more like five foot ten.
And that's how tall I am. So I'm not tall.
I wouldn't say I'm short. Somebody's taller than me, I'd
say they're tall. And even if you are short, AOC
didn't realize. You know, you can't go there because short
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people do have a reason to live. Sorry, Randy Newman.
Little people are people too, and when you're woke, you
gotta adhere to the woke orthodoxy, and so AOC had
to walk that back. Let's listen and see how well
she did.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
I want to express my love for the short king community.
I don't believe in body shaming. I am talking about
how big or small someone is on the inside. Like,
for example, I have no idea how tall Andrew Tat.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Is what, no idea at all? Who cares? But that
guy looks to me like five to three by five
three five.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Flour Whereas physically men of smaller stature can come across
they are spiritually six foot.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
If you're a good dad, if.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
You're if you stand with women, if you're not belittling immigrants,
you're like, you know, six three.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Spiritually, I don't know how tall are you spiritually, Zach like, okay,
spirit you're that tall, I'll tell are you actually about
six to one?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
About six foot?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, get maybe a little under.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
I think five to eleven six foot, I'm in that range.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I'm going to give you six foot especially shoes on
my goodness. That was hilarious her trying to kind of
and that she keeps going back to the shark tall thing,
or you tall on the inside, you're tall, spiritually you're short,
you know, I don't know that she did herself a
whole lot of good there, and maybe that's a kind
rate on it. Five seven seven, three nine. Let's get
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some tax. We'll get some more of these up to
the top of the hour as well. Ryan, the Supreme
Court keeps hearing these already adjudicated cases. I know that's
the point I was making with three h three creative
and before that Masterpiece cake Shop. How many times they
have to rule on essentially the same issue, and that
Phil Wiser in the State of Colorado keeps coming at
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it from different angles with a slight twist or shade
of gray. At some point a Supreme Court ruling needs
to serve as a precedent right. This is a waste
of time. Hurt Money Resources points to Stephen Lyttleton for
the use of this word. You can add your vocabulary
for today. Ryan Wiser will continue his quixotic antics as
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long as taxpayers are paying the tab. Indeed, and quixotic.
Looking it up, the definition exceedingly idealistic, unrealistic, and impractical.
And I don't know about the ideals that we'd agree
with that unrealistic, certainly, impractical, absolutely, But that's Wiser for
you he's going he's not gonna be governor. Okay, there's
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he can't beat Bennett. And if you're even looking at
the Democrats as heavily favored, and they are. You know,
I'm no fan of Michael Bennett. Okay, but Bennett v. Wiser.
I mean, come on, Wiser doesn't stand a chance, does he?
I mean maybe you think he does. Oh, this is
this is some heat coming in from a may and G.
Brock hearing that leftist trash Brockler what scold other people
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on supporting the Constitution Bill of Rights after literally writing
the Colorado Red Flag anti Constitution law. If I was
drinking milk, it would have spread out of my nose
GT to the FO with that. Ooh, the signature RSL
line GT to the FO with that. You know, I've
had conversations with George about that issue, and I get
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the criticism and it goes I think, along the same
lines of intent and then the actual consequences, such as
the legalization of weed for libertarians and theory. Okay, individual
wants to smoke weed, that's fine. But where I came to,
and I credit Dan Caplis for this, was the societal
impact and the element that it would draw, and as
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has happened here in Colorado and as is happening in
Michigan where it was recently legalized, it's there's some unintended consequences.
That is also at the issue centrally with the whole
competency law that was signed in by Jared Polus that
had a lot of Republican votes. I regret to inform you,
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and what that has done is open the door to
anybody going into a court and room, I'm incommon, I'm crazy,
start eating glue and stuff, and then they don't have
to face the charges that needs to be unwound, that
needs to be undone stick and stay hour two. Ryan
Schuling lives still ahead.
This Court has shown us before they're willing to go
far outside their headlights. They're not as sensitive around LGBTQ
equality as I wish they were, So we're gonna have
to wait and see. What I can say is I'm
proud of the argument we made, and I'm gonna keep
fighting for equal rights for all and to make sure
that the LGBTQ community in Colorado knows that we've got
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their back.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's candidate for Governor and current Attorney General for the
State of Colorado, Phil Wiser, and the state of Colorado
under Democrat rule seems like they cannot learn their lesson
on this issue of religious liberty. They have lost twice before.
As you will hear in Just a Moment Wiser in
a sit down interview with Comrade Kyle of nine News
(00:44):
Kyle Clark talking about the latest case, Chiles versus Salazar
that is before the Supreme Court of the United States now.
In the previous two the Masterpiece Cake Shop case with
our good friend Jack Phillips, court ruled in his favor
that he did not have to bake cakes that were
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in conflict with his religious beliefs, messages that would be
in conflict with that which he held to be sacred
and dear and for him, there was, in my opinion,
an unreasonable request made of Jack Phillips, and it was ridiculous.
And there are so many other bakeries and cake shops
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that an individual could choose from. Didn't have to go
to Jack Phillips, didn't have to go to Masterpiece Cake Shop.
Could have went to any of his competitors and Jack
would have been fine with that. Could have left a
nasty review. Oh, Jack's a Christian. He won't serve, you know,
make a cake with Satan and a dildo on it,
because that was one of the requests. By the way,
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going to call it what it is, tell it like
it is. Jack might be too modest to say it
in those crass of terms, but there it is. Didn't
want to do that, shouldn't have to do that. And
the Supreme Court ruled in his favor. Go to any
other cake shop. He doesn't have to make it for you.
And like I said, you can leave a bad Yelp review,
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leave a bad review on Google reviews, do it, but
then take your business elsewhere. He is not compelled to
express speech that he does not agree with from a
religious standpoint, same case, flash forward, Laurie Smith three or
three creative didn't want to create a website for a
gay wedding. Well State at Colorado felt otherwise, didn't learn
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from their Jack Phillips experience, took it all away the
Supreme Court and lost again. And here we have a
third bite at the apple, and Kyle Clark asks him
about that.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That sounds an awful lot like you tend to agree
with the legal observers who think you're gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
We knew going into this case that this Supreme Court,
we just had this recently in a three or through
creative case where it was about protecting civil rights protection.
And in that case it was a similar type of Pandora's.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Box, Pandora's box of what again, you're gonna lose a
third straight case. Kyle's right on that because you cannot
infringe upon the religious liberty of individuals, you can't compel
them to express speech that they don't agree with with
their own independent creations. In this case, Chile's v. Salas
Are is about whether or not a therapist properly trained, certified,
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can sit down with a child experiencing gender dysphoria and
present that child with a menu of options, one of
which might be you are not the opposite gender. Can't
do that. Can only affirm the child's gender and say yes,
if you are a biological boy and you feel uncomfortable
in your body that you think you might be a girl,
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well then you are a girl. We have to say that,
and if we don't, we're in conflict with Colorado law.
Here's Kyle Clark with those details.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Colorado could be headed for its third recent loss before
the Supreme Court on similar cases involving free speech and
religious liberty. The Masterpiece cake shop case, the baker who
didn't want to make custom cakes for same sex weddings,
three ZHO three creative, a website designer who didn't want
to make wedding websites for same sex couples. And now
this free speech challenge to Colorado's conversion therapy ban.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
It's more Phil Wiser in a moment but joining us
his former foe and opponent in the Attorney General's race
way back when he is the twenty third district attorney
in Douglas County, and he joins us on Ryan Schuling
Live George Brockler, George, thanks for taking the time.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Buddy, Thanks for having me on. I appreciate that, and
thanks for the disclaimer that everyone needs to hear anytime
I talk about Big Phil, and that is I lost
to Phil in twenty eighteen for attorney general. He won
in a full and fair election, and he is the
right for attorney general. So many people, whenever I'm critical
of this guy, are like, well, you're just upseick ause
you lost.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Of course I'm disappointed in losing, but these criticisms are legit.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Two points, just briefly on the twenty eighteen election. One,
I think go well for Republicans up and down the ballot.
And for point two, I believe, if I'm not mistaken,
your race was the closest for Republican candidate. Correct, not
just the closest.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
It remains the closest for any statewide race since that time,
and in the history of the state of Colorado, no
Republican running for a state constitutional office has received more
votes than I have, and that remains true seven years later.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Very interesting. George Brockler twenty third DA joining US. So
I wanted you, George, from your perspective and the legal realm,
to provide the counterpoint to what we just heard and
why we're living this kind of groundhog day on the
issue of religious liberty and how many more times this
has to go this very same issue in a different
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shade of color or whatever before the Supreme Court of
the United States for them to make the same ruling.
Is Colorado going to get to do this fourth a
fifth time? At what point can the courts go, look,
there's a precedent set here. This has been asked and
answer this is he's been adjudicated. You can't just keep
bringing this case before the.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Courts if you accept the premise that Phil represents the
most upper partisan attorney general we've had in our state's history,
and any metric you want to use bears that out.
For instance, he brags about having sued Trump, I think
every hour on the hour for the seven years he's
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been in office, but couldn't find a way to sue
Joe Biden's administration a single time, despite the fact that
there were one hundred and thirty multi state lawsuits against him,
couldn't find one to join. But the topic here, and
I appreciate that he sat down with Kyle Clark, But
one thing you know about Phil is Phil hates confrontation.
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Phil is all about platitudes, and we're going to fight
for this and collaboration and cooperation. And I'm here to
listen and I'm going to keep fighting for Colorado.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But one thing the dude won't.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Do is take hard questions from someone that he uses
adverse to him. And so when he sits down with Kyle,
you know right away there's going to be a kind of.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Tenor to this.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
And if you listen to the questions that were edited
out of however long that interview was, Kyle didn't disappoint
him because the question should not have been to Phil. Hey,
this looks like the third time you're about to get
kicked in the jurisprudence junk over this stuff. Is Colorado
hostile to faith based whatever? That's not the question. The
question is you're about to lose for the fourth time
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on a First Amendment issue in a number of years.
The case in not Counting is one that our office
successfully prosecuted and got convicted a dude for threats he'd
made to a woman on a stocking charge. And somehow
Phil's team fumbled the ball at the Supreme Court, and
so badly, by the way, Ryan that all three liberal
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justices voted against Phil. All three liberal justices voted against
Phil on this First Amendment issue. The bigger question that
Kyle should have asked is why can't you win on
First Amendment issues? Why do you keep taking cases that
you can't seem to figure out how to win. That's
a legitimate question, and it should be a question you
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ask of any prosecutor, anybody who goes to court, like,
talk to me your win loss ratio. This guy right now,
Phil Wiser is becoming the Colorado Rockies of Supreme Court jurisprudence.
And I'm not trying to malign the Rockies how they
could be doing better than Phil. I think we should
demand to know from Phil how many Supreme Court cases
has your office argued since you've been in office, and
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how many have you won.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
George Brockler joining US twenty third District attorney would be
much more qualified. In my view, I am incredibly biased.
I'm a fan of George's but as Attorney general, based
on what you're just hearing from him right there. But
to revisit that exchange that George just described here is
that issue of hostility toward religious conservatives from Comrade Kyle, is.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
The law in Colorado hostile to religious conservatives?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Not at all that Colorado's law has an exemption. If
what you're engaged in israel religious guidance ministry.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
The law doesn't apply to you.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
The law applies to people who are professionals, who get
a license from the state and who have an obligation
to provide a standard of care that's legitimate.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
The Supreme Court may reach.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
To get to some result here, but it's to my mind,
a dangerous move because it's knock grounded in facts, and
it would open up this Pandora's box, allowing people to
say I'm going to practice whatever type of medicine I
want because I've got some First Amendment interest in doing so.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay, there's so much to unpack there, George, but I
want to bullet point it on a couple of issues there. One,
he's exactly wrong about the religious conservative aspect of this.
He says you have to be engaged in a ministry.
That's not true. We saw it with the business practice
of Jack Phillips and Masterpiece Cake Shop, and in the
business practice of Lorie Smith at three h three Creative.
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So that's shot out of the water right there, and
then this whole conflation toward the end. I want you
to comment on that as well. Between what has been
much criticized, I would criticize it too. Pray the gay
away of conversion therapy that you're not really day, you're straight,
and we're going to put you through therapy until you
are straight. I know, at least from my experience dealing
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with people, dealing with my cousin, dealing with friends of mine,
that some people are born gay. But put that aside
for a moment, because that's being conflated with so called
conversion therapy. Of telling a child who's experiencing gender dysphoria
that they may not be the opposite gender. You cannot
offer that up though you have to adhere to the
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science that's approved by Phil Wiser. Your turn. Yeah, listen.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
There's so much about that interview that concerns me. But
his description there is so deliberately misleading because he says
whatever decision that the Supreme Court may make that's against
him would be a reach and it's not based on
the facts. The facts are these, This licensed, trained, qualified
therapist engages in talk therapy right like she's not saying
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you should put leeches on your eye balls to cure
the cough.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
It's not like that kind of regulated thing.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
It's top therapy.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
It's premised on the ability to communicate and engage with
these people. It's not like sticking needles in arms. But
the bigger part is this. This is a woman who
said at the trial court level, listen, people come to me,
kids come to me and say, I'm struggling with this.
I don't want to have these feelings, or I want
to have help with these attractions that I'm having. Just
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I want to have help with this. And what Colorado's
law says is you may not help them. We will
define for you what help is, and what help is.
You must embrace whatever that road they're going down is,
and you can do nothing to try to talk them
out of it or to discourage them from doing it.
And if that's not first Amendment, man, then we don't
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have a first amendment. The other part that concerns me
about this. You heard that you played this in your
first clip. Ran It was a great one when he
said the Supreme Court isn't as sensitive to LGBTQ issues
as i'd like them to be well. I don't want
them to be sensitive to LDBBTQ issues as much as
I want them to be sensitive to something called the
friggin Constitution.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
And the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And if the Bill Rights comes out one way, by God,
that's the way it's got to come up with this
idea that we've carved out these specialty concerns that should
trump the idea what's the First Amendment and the role
the government should play and how you communicate with others
and what.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
You have to say.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Buddy, this is what makes this guy so dangerous. He
is an academic pretending to be a prosecutor.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Ouch George Brockler, twenty third District Attorney, joining us in
breaking down this conversation again. Third bite at the apple
on religious liberty alone, following in the footsteps of the
Masterpiece Cake Shop case involving Jack Phillips, the three ZHO
three creative case involving Lourie Smith. And this is Chiles v.
Salazar about whether, and George put it so brilliantly, a
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talk therapist. So a counselor that's offering advice verbal has
the right to express his or her trained, educate opinion
on whether or not a child is experiencing gender dysphoria,
is transgender the opposite gender might not be real that
back in a little bit, kid might just be gay.
Kid might grow out of gender dysphoria. And there are
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studies showing that north of eighty percent of children who
expend or experience gender dysphoria grow out of it in
a way. Either they're gay or they it's a phase
and they go through it, and it's part of the
confusion of going through puberty and not really knowing who
you are. We've all gone through it, including Phil Weiser.
I might bet and here is the final clip from
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that interview with comrade Guyline News.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
You're not a legislator, you're a litigator. But do you see,
based on what you heard from the court that there
would be a way for Colorado to achieve its aims
to a slightly different methodology than what we currently have.
If they don't like the current setup.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
We're going to work really hard to try to do that.
The first Amendment doctrine if they go that way, would
be to say we've got to show under strict scrutiny,
which is a demanding standard that the regulation can be justified.
If that's where the court lands, We're going to do
our very best to justify as much protection as we can.
Because we know that lgbtqth are harmed by this practice.
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We want to make sure they're protected. We're going to
do whatever we can to make that happen.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
See, he doesn't look at the other side of the coin,
whereas we've seen many who have detransitioned George, and it's
a it's a tragic tale that they thought they were
trans they tried to go through the surgical reassignment, surgery,
the hormone therapy, the puberty blockers, and then at the
end of the day they realized I didn't want to
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do that, and you can undo it. So he's not
talking about those harms to the LGBTQ community, that they
might not even be part of the so called community,
and that those surgeries, Frankenstein and the nature that they
are cannot be undone. He's not concerned about that, just
the validation under all circumstances that a child's experiencing genderness,
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for you must be affirmed, and that's the the only
stance you can have. That sounds a little fascisticky, it's super.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Scary man, especially for someone who is the parent of kids.
And everybody who is out there listening to this, know
that from time to time, your kids have thoughts, complicated thoughts,
conflicting thoughts. Sometimes they think they're Superman. Sometimes they think
they want to be the pet dog or something. But
kids go through things, and you help them to grow
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out of these things. Right based on what they're exposed to.
This law says you can't do it. In fact, one
of the great arguments I listened to the entire Supreme
Court argument yesterday. One of the arguments that the people
resisting this law put out there is to say, listen,
if you say that the state can do this, you've
opened the door to other states saying things at different times,
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like you can't counsel someone to embrace their homosexuality, you
can't encourage them to go down that road. And I
think that's a compelling thing. But the real trick here
is when Phil brought up strict scrutiny, because there is
a way for government to get to intervene here, even in.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
A practice like this.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
But what Phil doesn't want and what he argued against
is please don't make us hard for us to prove
that we're doing that, because that's strict scrutiny. What he
and his employee argued, his solicitor argued was keep it
at the lowest possible standard that you can, so we
can fall right over it based on whatever justifications we want,
with whatever breadth of law that we.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Want to have. That's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
My guess is this comes back maybe sevent to He
may lose Kagan again, who, by the way, pen the
opinion blowing him up on the counterman case that we want.
At the trial court, she could end up going. It
could go seven to two against him. The only issue
will be do they overturn the law and apply strict
scrutiny or do they send it back to the state
courts and say you must apply strict scrutiny. Let's see
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what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
George Brockler, twenty third DA joining us. Final point here, George,
I mentioned the three high profile cases, and we're kind
of listing those in order. You mentioned a fourth. Now
I'm thinking back. I know that Phil Wiser as Attorney
General supported the effort to keep Donald Trump off the
primary ballot. That was a nine to nothing taste was
that the other one you were referring to. Was there
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another one?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
No that, well, you know what, I hadn't even thought
of that one, Ryan, that's another one we should look at. No,
this was one called Counterman, which was decided about two
years ago, maybe June of two thousand and twenty three,
And it was based off of a stocking conviction that
my office got when I was the DA eighteenth, that
my office got against a scary dude saying some pretty
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scary things. We went at the trial level, went at
the appellate level, makes it all the way to the
Supreme Court, and somehow this dude and his team fumble
the ball in the Supreme Court and comes back and
gets blown up seven to two, and this guy's conviction
gets undone over it. And it's another First Amendment case.
This guy struggles with the role of government in the
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First Amendment. And it's not just religious freedom. This guy
wants government to you want to think, how to think,
and how to say it and when to say it.
That's a problem. If this guy's frustrated with the Supreme
Court now that keeps crushing him on these arguments, what
kind of judges he put on our own benches. If
he were to be elected governor, what kind of litmus
(18:16):
test would he make the next Supreme Court justices he
appoints go through to prove that they'd be willing to
bend over backwards to allow government to get into our mouths.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Parents the thought on that one. But I don't think
Phil Wiser is doing himself any favors, as George put it,
being the equivalent all due respect on the Colorado Rockies
and illegal realm and his win loss record there. George
Brockler DA in the twenty third taking some time with
us to break this down today. George always appreciate your time,
your contributions. Thanks so much, and we'll talk to you
(18:46):
again soon. Thanks her, Thanks thanks for having me George
Brockler G Brock as we call him. Your thoughts, you're reactional.
We got a lot of texts coming in five seven, seven,
three nine is where you can send those along too.
On this Wednesday edition of Ryan Shuling Live. Coming up next,
we're going to talk with Keith Anderson as well. He's
the chair of the Wild County GOPPR Committee. They've got
(19:08):
an event coming up. It'll feature Jimmy Sangenberger, will tell
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Appreciate his contributions to the program and yours at five
seven seven three nine. And if there's one thing that
you know is that I like to have a good time.
And if there's another thing that you might know, I'm
a big fan of Wild County, of its Sheriff Steve Eames,
and our listening audience, sometimes a guest on the program. Heck,
sometimes he's filling in on the mic for Dan Kapliss
and maybe for me at one point looking forward to that.
(21:16):
So when you put those two things together, having a
good time Weld County, what do you get? Will you
get the fall hoe down with the Weld County GOP
and the slogan for the event work hard, Play hard,
They definitely do the former, and we're looking to do
a little bit more of the latter. With Keith Anderson
joining us now. He's the chair of the World County
Republican Party Public Relations Committee and he joins us on
(21:37):
Ryan Schuling Live. Keith, Welcome, Hey, Ryan le love.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
We love you equally up here in world.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well really appreciate that. Thank you very much, Keith, And
for our listeners out there that might be hearing from
you for the first time, tell us a little bit
about your background on how you came to be in
charge of the pr committee for the World County Republicans.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
So, Hanna Rivera, if you haven't had him on, please
He took over as the Wealth County care up here
and he made a real hard push to start getting
some committees going. I actually got put on a couple
of those committees as well. A few people are volunteered,
and his big push is just trying to get more
people involved, more people doing things. They can't be just
(22:18):
one person at the top that's expected to do all
those things. And so as we got that going, we
worked also on the Volunteers and Manage Committee. We just
started looking at events and what can be doing to
be more active.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's really easy during.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Especially non election years to kind of sen Or Laurels
A well Wealth kicked butt in twenty twenty four for
five seats, and so that's the work hard part that
he pointed to. We knew we had the work bar part.
Now we wanted to have you'll have more fun and
be able to connect more Republicans together. And that was
kind of where this whole event started, was with hiring
(22:55):
and putting together a team that just wanted to figure
out something. And it's been a pivot, few pivots from
there and now we got something going.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And what they have doing is the Weld County fall
Holdown that is coming up Saturday, October twenty fifth and
occasional fill in host for this program, Jimmy Sangenberg are
going to be a part of that. Keith, what are
some other details that people need to know?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
So, yeah, Jimmy's going to be there. We actually kind
of stole the event from Summit County. I want to
give them a shout out. Lori Cootinelli, who's kicking butt
as their chair up there, they did a very similar event.
I talked to her about how successful that was and
I'm not the kind of person who wants to reinvent
the wheel. I think it's really important to be as
efficient with your parliament for as possible, So I'm trying
(23:37):
to copy most of what she did, including booking Jimmy
to be a speaker there. She also set me up
with who was there. They have a live band. They
had a different band. But when I reach out to her,
she's unavailable because sus actually that he get an award
the same day. But I asked her if she could
refer me to somebody else, So we have bry Joe
(23:59):
in the I will stand. There's stories out of birthday,
so she she might be on the other side of
the county line. I haven't established. I haven't an ass
he specifically where she lives. She's gone close to Weld
County and so she's young and youthful, and that was
kind of an important part. We're setting this a man
up again with Kidney. He's going to be speaking tied
to the whole youth engagement. We didn't want to make
(24:20):
that hyper political. We're not having a bunch of politicians speak.
Hunter has insisted that if Lauren and Gabe were able
to make it they get a short two minutes to
speak the crowd, but other than that, we're not We're
not making it all about candidates and talking and some
more about having fun. So we have a we're kicking
it off with a trunk retreat. That is an area
(24:40):
of candidates are going to be able to get to
take some photos and be a little bit more active involved.
So we want to make sure kids are able to
be involved with the whole thing and have some fun.
So they can come with their costumes and anyone who
hasn't done a trunk retreat, it's basically they're going to
decorate their cars and give out candy from the back
of the So that's none from five thirty to six thirty.
(25:02):
Our doors officially open at six pm. Music can stuffhould
be started about got seven. We have barbecue is going
from Georgia Boys over in free leaves, so it was
great to be able to get them for food. We're
going to have a silent auction we'll put trying to
put together for some of the higher price items a
live auction. Live auctions are a lot more fun to
(25:22):
sign auctions, so some of those things are still kind
of in the works, but overall, the rest of the music,
the speaker, all this book and ready to go, so
we want people to come out and have good time.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Looking forward to that. Once again, it's the Wild County
GOP Fall Hodown. It's Saturday, October twenty fifth. He mentions
the trunk or tree kind of a Halloween preview there
a few days beforehand. Kids can get candy there safely,
of course, from five point thirty to six thirty pm.
Doors open at six with the live music that he
mentioned by Dori, Joe and the Double Standards, some really
(25:53):
good barbecue from Georgia Boys as he mentioned, and Jimmy
Sangenberger will be the featured speaker. They'll have a lot
of stuff going on in that It's at a gathering
place event center in Lasane, Colorado. To any of you
that are in Weld County, be sure to check this
out and you could do so online at weldcountygp dot com.
It's just that simple Weld County GOP dot com. And
(26:14):
even if you're not in Weld County, there's always a
reason to go. There are good people up there and
we appreciate them and all they're doing to put this
event on the Weld County gop fall Holdown. A final
word from you, Keith on the event itself or anything
anybody needs to know about the Weld County Republicans at
this time.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Well, and I want to put off your point there
about people from other counties. It's really important this group
that we fall together and starting with this event is
to build momentum. Weld has the history of being pretty
read that we did have to flip those five seats
to really reinforce that we want to be able to
create kind of playbook and standard for other counties to follow. Again,
(26:51):
I took this from Summit County and making a few
changes here and there to make it for us. But
when things are successful and they work, they work. So
I definitely want people from other counties to come. If
they can't make it that this, they're welcome to reach
out to me and we can try to help them
kind of guide them on getting their own event. A
similar thing going, because I'd love to see Weld especially
bleed over into Larimer County and into Adams County going
(27:14):
into twenty twenty sixth. That way we can start flipping
some more seats and really went back Colorado. So I
appreciate you mentioning that fact and everything that we do,
we're trying to try to lead the way where we can.
We're not waiting for anybody else to come in and
save us, and we're happy to help anybody who wants to.
And if people wanting, if they don't go to the website,
(27:35):
they'll also go check out the Weld at well. The
CEO gop on x. I've been putting out marketing stuff
there so they'll be able to click on the link
and get their tickets or check out our Facebook Weld
County Republican Party Facebook. Again keeping some marketing right now.
We have a deal going on that if you buy
one ticket, you get kids ticket for free. So that's
(27:56):
going to go through Sunday night. And again we're really
trying to get family involved. We're trying to get youth
involved too. That was a big priority, so we do
offer a more price ticket fifty dollars for anybody under
the age of thirty. This is kind of game planning
pre September tenth and everything. I went down with that,
but I think it's really important that we get youth involved.
(28:19):
That's been my stance since I got involved in January,
and I think now more than ever, we need to
get young people started early and let's stake back to state.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Sounds good and that's a good way to do it
and a fun way to do it. Put on your
calendar for Saturday, October twenty fifth. It all gets started
at five thirty, goes to about nine to nine thirty
and that is once again the Weld County GOP Fall
hold Down. More information online, easy website to remember weldcountygp
dot com. He is Keith Anderson, chairer of the Weld
County Republican Party Public Relations Committee. Keith, great work, thanks
(28:54):
for all you do, and best of luck with this event.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I'll see you there all right.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Joining us for the first time on Ryan Schuling Live
and looking forward to Jimmy Sangenberger is the featured speaker
at the World County gop fallodown that is Saturday, October
twenty fifth. A break, We're back your texts five, seven, seven,
thirty nine, rounding out our number one of Ryan Shuling Live.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
They are scrapping and grasping at straws because they have
nothing else.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Laugh at them.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
Stephen Miller is a clown I've never seen that guy
in real life, but he looks like he's like four ten,
and he looks like he is angry about.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
The fact that he's four ten.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Like, laugh at them, laugh at them. This is about
insecure masculinity. And one of the best ways that you
can dismantle a movement of insecure men is by making
fun of them.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Sick burn AOC with the LF line He's an angry elf.
Remember scene with Will Ferrell and Peter Dnklige, the genius
children's book writer that comes in to consult James Kahn
and his entire operation. There. Wow, she just you know,
spiked the football, dunked on the little Stephen Miller's like
(30:24):
four foot ten. Wait a minute. First of all, Jesse
Waters reports that Steven Miller's more like five foot ten.
And that's how tall I am. So I'm not tall.
I wouldn't say I'm short. Somebody's taller than me, I'd
say they're tall. And even if you are short, AOC
didn't realize. You know, you can't go there because short
(30:44):
people do have a reason to live. Sorry, Randy Newman.
Little people are people too, and when you're woke, you
gotta adhere to the woke orthodoxy, and so AOC had
to walk that back. Let's listen and see how well
she did.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
I want to express my love for the short king community.
I don't believe in body shaming. I am talking about
how big or small someone is on the inside. Like,
for example, I have no idea how tall Andrew Tat.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Is what, no idea at all? Who cares? But that
guy looks to me like five to three by five
three five.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Flour Whereas physically men of smaller stature can come across
they are spiritually six foot.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
If you're a good dad, if.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
You're if you stand with women, if you're not belittling immigrants,
you're like, you know, six three.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Spiritually, I don't know how tall are you spiritually, Zach like, okay,
spirit you're that tall, I'll tell are you actually about
six to one?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
About six foot?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, get maybe a little under.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
I think five to eleven six foot, I'm in that range.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I'm going to give you six foot especially shoes on
my goodness. That was hilarious her trying to kind of
and that she keeps going back to the shark tall thing,
or you tall on the inside, you're tall, spiritually you're short,
you know, I don't know that she did herself a
whole lot of good there, and maybe that's a kind
rate on it. Five seven seven, three nine. Let's get
(32:27):
some tax. We'll get some more of these up to
the top of the hour as well. Ryan, the Supreme
Court keeps hearing these already adjudicated cases. I know that's
the point I was making with three h three creative
and before that Masterpiece cake Shop. How many times they
have to rule on essentially the same issue, and that
Phil Wiser in the State of Colorado keeps coming at
(32:48):
it from different angles with a slight twist or shade
of gray. At some point a Supreme Court ruling needs
to serve as a precedent right. This is a waste
of time. Hurt Money Resources points to Stephen Lyttleton for
the use of this word. You can add your vocabulary
for today. Ryan Wiser will continue his quixotic antics as
(33:13):
long as taxpayers are paying the tab. Indeed, and quixotic.
Looking it up, the definition exceedingly idealistic, unrealistic, and impractical.
And I don't know about the ideals that we'd agree
with that unrealistic, certainly, impractical, absolutely, But that's Wiser for
you he's going he's not gonna be governor. Okay, there's
(33:36):
he can't beat Bennett. And if you're even looking at
the Democrats as heavily favored, and they are. You know,
I'm no fan of Michael Bennett. Okay, but Bennett v. Wiser.
I mean, come on, Wiser doesn't stand a chance, does he?
I mean maybe you think he does. Oh, this is
this is some heat coming in from a may and G.
Brock hearing that leftist trash Brockler what scold other people
(34:00):
on supporting the Constitution Bill of Rights after literally writing
the Colorado Red Flag anti Constitution law. If I was
drinking milk, it would have spread out of my nose
GT to the FO with that. Ooh, the signature RSL
line GT to the FO with that. You know, I've
had conversations with George about that issue, and I get
(34:24):
the criticism and it goes I think, along the same
lines of intent and then the actual consequences, such as
the legalization of weed for libertarians and theory. Okay, individual
wants to smoke weed, that's fine. But where I came to,
and I credit Dan Caplis for this, was the societal
impact and the element that it would draw, and as
(34:44):
has happened here in Colorado and as is happening in
Michigan where it was recently legalized, it's there's some unintended consequences.
That is also at the issue centrally with the whole
competency law that was signed in by Jared Polus that
had a lot of Republican votes. I regret to inform you,
(35:04):
and what that has done is open the door to
anybody going into a court and room, I'm incommon, I'm crazy,
start eating glue and stuff, and then they don't have
to face the charges that needs to be unwound, that
needs to be undone stick and stay hour two. Ryan
Schuling lives still ahead.
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