Jimmy Sengenberger, The Gazette joins Ryan live in-studio with the very latest on the Mike Lindell trial currently before the jury for a decision in Denver.
Miranda Devine, New York Post joins Ryan to discuss her recent 'Pod Force One' interview with President Trump and the contrast between Saturday's 250th anniversary U.S. Army parade and the 'No Kings' protests across the country.
Roger Cook, head coach of girls' softball at Grass Lake High School, joins his varsity baseball teammate Ryan to reflect on their alma mater's first-ever Michigan High School Athletic Association state championship in softball.
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Miranda Devine, New York Post joins Ryan to discuss her recent 'Pod Force One' interview with President Trump and the contrast between Saturday's 250th anniversary U.S. Army parade and the 'No Kings' protests across the country.
Roger Cook, head coach of girls' softball at Grass Lake High School, joins his varsity baseball teammate Ryan to reflect on their alma mater's first-ever Michigan High School Athletic Association state championship in softball.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kelly, you are the community to this president's chaos, and
together we build a future of opportunity and justice for all.
Home over fear, aspiration over anger, the promise of America
(00:20):
for each and every American. That is what we are
fighting for today. So I say, the people united will
therefore be confided. People die, Oh please, people you die, will.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Never be.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Divided.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Chase the lyric Randy Winingarten real sly there. Can you imagine, Like.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
If you're a teacher out there, how.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Do you feel about the American Federation for Teachers President
Randy Winingarten making a clown of herself being represented by
that that represents you. I know you don't want it
to necessarily he probably don't if you're listening to this show.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But when are the teachers going, you know what? Enough? Okay,
we can't stand this woman.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
She kept schools closed down really dramatically, affecting kids, their
learning abilities, their socialization skills, their test scores, their grades,
all of that.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
A generation of kids is coming up right now.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
We're talking about younger gen zs that will never forget
what was done to them, and they're never going to
forget who was responsible for it, and that is why
you're seeing this wave of conservatism, a red wave among
younger voters supporting the likes of President Trump in numbers
we've never seen with a younger generation, which typically leans
(01:47):
more liberal, including my own. Well, Jimmy Sangeberger makes fun
of me all the time for being a gen X
so easy. He's a millennial and he's rooting for jd Vance.
That might not be your first choice, but just for
this purpose, being a millennial and skipping a gen xer
for president, you'd love it.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I would love that history to be made and for
generation acts to be passed over once again.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
That's terrible, like it should be.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
We it would be fitting because we were the latch
key kid generation raised by television.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's kind of left to our own devices.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Breakfast Club is a good kind of indicator of all
of the things that we felt the angst. I mean,
what do you what do you think brought on grunge music?
We're overlooked and I'm not complaining about It's just a fact, alike.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I've got the world's smallest harmonica here. I will start
playing it for you and your fellow Gen xers think
I'd have to be really whenever I hear, well, look
at the young voters. I remember, millennials are not the
young voters anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
No their parents exactly. They're starting lives of their own
and moving in their own direction.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Jese, it is wild.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Jimmy's one of them, and you can follow him on
exit saying center, SENG, center, CE, and tr. He was
just filling in for Mandy Connell crossed the hall. Sports
guys took over, said come on over here. We'll talk
a little bit more. But one of the main things
I wanted you to address, Jimmy is something you've been
covering closely, following closely, and that is the trial of
Mike Lindell, the MyPillow guy, and his accusations, his aspersions
(03:14):
that he has cast against a particular member of dominion
voting a former executive with them about a stolen election,
and that the machines were either tampered with or manipulated
in some way. I mean this, of course, all derives
into the teen of Peters scandal and what she tried
to recreate and how she tried to do it. But
the thing I heard you talking about over there is
if you have the evidence, where is it present?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It take us from there, if you would at least look,
this was a chance.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
The trial was not specifically about twenty twenty in and
of itself, but Mike Lindell made a lot of claims
that you cannot avoid tying into this case. Because that's
why this guy, doctor Eric Komer, former VP of Dominion,
was put in the spotlight. People were looking at him
as sort of in a myth. Any myth needs to
(04:03):
have a hero and a villain. He was sort of
the villain that they could point to, Oh my gosh,
this Eric Komer guy, and so that ties in. You
cannot They're inextricably linked. And so if you finally have
a chance in the court of law to bring out
all the supposed evidence and you claim you've got thirty
five experts proving that the election was stolen and voting
(04:25):
machines can be rigged in this way that flips votes.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
And everything, and it happened.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
We got to get rid of the voting machines, go
back to paper ballots, hand counted. Then why wouldn't you
put up the evidence, bring out the experts instead. The
one and only expert that came forward as an expert
was admitted as an expert was doctor Alex J. Halderman,
who was a plaintiff's witness, who said, look, yeah, we
(04:50):
got vulnerabilities in our system, but that's totally different from
those vulnerabilities actually being exploited or any evidence of Malfison's
in the elections. And he was not a good witness
for Lindell's side, and they didn't counter with their own expert.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
What does its stake for Mike Lindell here if the
jury comes back with a verdict against.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Him, sixty two million dollars between himself, his company's my
Pillow also defendant, and Frank Speech also a defendant.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
So you take into account that consequence. But it's not
just that, Jimmy, it's the money that I know Mike
Lindell invested on his own accord into the investigation of
this potential fraud that he was alleging. So he'll be
double sung into this venture, almost.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Exactly double sung, because he says he spent over forty
million dollars of his own money up to fifty million
and is ten million dollars in the hole.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So when people accused him of executing a grift, I
don't deny that there were some people who were doing that,
I believe to try to get whatever he likes, clix.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Donations, anything along those lines.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
But it was Lindell literally putting his money where his
mouth was. But why did he he thinks so much
on what was a losing bet and he didn't have
the evidence.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I don't understand the why here.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
It is tough to tell that given that he kept
not only coming up short, but also having people who
would come up short or whose own people sometimes would say, hey,
don't trust this guy, but he did. There was one
guy who was a witness, Dennis Montgomery, who he trusted
his stuff early on, but there were people within his.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Group and he still does within it.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
There were people within his group who said, don't trust
this guy his stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
He doesn't have the goods.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Look in this other direction, I feel like Lindell willfully
went uh was taken for a ride. And I say
willfully because he would be given all kinds of contrary
evidence demonstrating that these theories were wrong or debunked, and
yet he would ignore them and continue charting forward. But
he would spend millions on so called experts on you know,
(06:53):
people like Tina Peters and her legal defense got multitudes
of millions of dollars from either him or his legal
defense fund, or to the symposiums and conferences that he
hosted so the different speakers there would get money. At
this cyber symposium in August of twenty twenty one, he
spent thirty thousand dollars a piece on ten people in
(07:14):
a so called red team. That red team came up
with bump kiss there and also suppose of that Denis
Montgomery guy that I mentioned got a two million dollar
house from him, So I think he was fleeced by
other people, but sort of willfully so, wanting to just
keep going for whatever reason. And you know, he could
(07:36):
say it's because I believed it, but that's not good enough.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Jimmy Seckenberger joining us, he's all over this case and
covering it for the Denver Gazette. You followed his feed
at saying center sengng ce n t ER. Now, Jimmy,
do we anticipate a verdict? Does this tell you anything
that they've taken maybe longer.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
So what's interesting is a couple hours ago or almost
three hours ago now apparently the jury came with the question.
They've asked a handful of questions today during their deliberations,
and this question asked the judge, can we defer to
you for damages?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Can you tell us how much we should attribute to here?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
And the judge said, no, that's part of your fact
finding mission as the jury. But what that signals to
me is they're at a point where they are considering damages,
which indicates there's a good chance he, maybe his companies
as well, will lose, but not to the level that
Eric Kumer wants of sixty two million, but somewhere in
between zero and sixty two.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
They've got their mind made up on the verdict itself
being guilty for Lindell, but that the dollar amount they
might be quippling on just to say, well, we want
to give him everything, but he should do something.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's what it seems like to me.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Why else would you specifically use one of your questions
to the judge and say, hey, we want to get
the court back in so we can ask about damages.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Here's my concern, Jimmy, and that is there are legitimate
questions and concerns I think about our life right here
in Colorado under the leadership of Jenna Griswold, who is
a corrupt partisan figure, and you've outlined Joan Lopez and
some of her incompetence in a Rapaole County. But this does, however,
is it presents a smoke screen and it does a
favor for that side when somebody like Tina Peters Mike
(09:17):
Lindell advanced these bombastic accusations of election fraud and papers
over what could be looking under the hood, some real issues.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But now the Democrats like, wow, they're crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
They make these wild accusations, none of it's true, and
they get off the hook.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
You have hit on a point I have been making
for years that this plays into the hands of a
Jenna Griswold because then she goes on MSNBC and elsewhere
and raises millions of dollars to run for Attorney General
or re election for Secretary of State before claiming that
she is the leader fighting against the big lie and
(09:56):
the evil MAGA movement, when really, in reality she a
corrupt actor herself.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
She's a hyper partisan hack.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
She's lost so much in turnover in terms of her
staff to so many problems, but that becomes exactly a
smoke screen or a shield for her to against criticism
and also from the.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Real questions that could be raised.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
As you were pointing out, we do not I think
we have a very good system in Colorado, we do
not have a perfect system and even election officials.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
So Matt Crane, the.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Executive director of the Colorado County Clerks Association, testified as
the second witness in this trial, and one of the
points that he made, I think in the case, if
I recall, is that this actually undermines election officials who
want to hear genuine criticism, who concerns and have a
real discussion about what needs to be improved.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
See.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I always go with this legal theory of it's not
what you know, it's what you can prove in a
court of law.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And the problem again.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
With this case is it's not what Mike Lindell knew,
it's what he tried to wish cast into existence, this
election fraud. And then it's not even what he could
prove because they didn't have the evidence to bring forward
to prove it. Because one of the biggest kind of
stances I've seen people take that are on the there
was election fraud in twenty twenty, it was wrongfully stolen.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
How did Joe Biden get eighty one million votes.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I have that question too, by the way, in terms
of methods and how it was done, the canvassing, the
gathering of votes, But again it's what you.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Can prove in a court of law.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
So when you look at it through that prism and
from that perspective, Jimmy about there being any kind of
fraud that they couldn't get standing in the courts, that
was their biggest thing. Jenna Ellis talked about that at length,
we're not granted at standing.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
We didn't even get a chance to present their case.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Now there's a chance in this trial, and still the
evidence isn't being brought up.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
And what's notable is that in Tina Peters case, they
claimed she was not allowed to bring forward all the evidence.
But that's because it was a criminal case where you
had to focus on the charges. And the judge I
thought was very deliberate whenever he would explain why you
wouldn't allow a certain witness or allow a certain piece
of evidence into the trial is because it wasn't material
(12:14):
to the.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Charges in a criminal case.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
This is a different story where now Mike Lindell had
the opportunity to present all kinds of stuff and he
decided not to do it and justified that in part.
One of the things his lawyer would say, it asked
him and cross examination of his own client, was could
any of these thirty five experts testify as to your
(12:36):
state of mind and whether you believe this? The whole
argument was, well, they're not experts on Lindell's state of mind,
and that's the real issue, showing that he believed the
things he was saying, So we're not going to have
him come in as experts.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Can believe in Santa Claus, you know what I mean.
I mean, you could use these ridiculous examples, but they
make the point of what was Mike Lindell's state of mind?
Is he trying to argue that, hey, I was crazy.
I don't know, I believed it. I was an idiot.
Was there a maya culpa involved? Now, hey, I believe Canard.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
No, he continues to believe it, and continues to say
that he stands by criminal and trader. In fact, interesting
like he called Kyle Clark a trader and interview with
Kyle Kloss saw that, but.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It wasn't something about Kyle.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
It was about that Kyle was a blocker, so I
would be a trader, I think in the mind of
Mike Lindell as well, because I don't platform falsities about
the twenty twenty election or the voting machines.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And what have you.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I will have a real discussion about things like you
mentioned Joe Lopez, or the bios passwords lead from Jenny
Griswold or what have you. Legitimate things, But I'm not
going to platform stuff that does not have a basis
in reality and has been disproven time after time.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
One final note, I'm glad a Texter sent this in
Jimmy just to get your comment on it, and that
is did you see that DOJ is requesting the twenty
twenty and twenty twenty four election records for Colorado. I
think it was Fox News' website. I saw that on yesterday.
This apparently has been spearheaded by Pam Bondi herself the Age.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
What are your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I think maybe it's connected with the federal look into
Tina Peters. Interestingly enough, if the Feds have been conducting
their own investigation into Tina for a few years, that
hasn't gone anywhere yet. But that same department is supposedly
looking into whether or not the local trial of Tina
was done properly. Honestly, I think it's ridiculous. I just
(14:33):
I get a little bit with bios. But there's nothing,
I think to provide a basis for the Trump administration
to do this, And I think they are going in
a direction that is going to distract from a meaningful
agenda for them as opposed to something real.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
So to put a fine point on at the topic
of discussion, this trial happening right here in Denver for
Mike Lindell. You're predicting guilty verdict just a matter of
dollar amount.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
That's what it seems. That's what it seems at this point.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I certainly was leaning in the direction of a of
a Komer victory based on the trial. But I wrote
a big analysis on Friday night at Saying Center, Saying
with a knee and on an a center on X
where I broke it down and said, you know, I
think odds are in his favor. But now it does
give an indication, yes, that Mike Lindell will probably lose
this trial.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
The very latest, and as he stated, you can follow
his feed on X at Saying Center, seng ce n
t e Er Jimmy Sangenberger, our guest in studio. Jimmy,
thank you as always forget Tyler. Appreciate you, better believe it.
Let's get to some more texts here. Shoe red Wings
will always suck forever, all time, suckage tards. That's really
harsh and I don't think that's fair. All I've got
(15:39):
to say is the Red Wings, over that span that
there was this war between nineteen ninety six and O two,
won three Stanley Cups, and when we had one for
good measure in two thousand and eight, the Avalanche did
not get to that number. That's all I'm saying, not
even with the recent cup that they won a few
years ago.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Ryan, I was very pleased with the parade.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Some soldiers smile and waving, very little of Trump's birthday,
not authoritarian at all. Most soldiers looked reat relaxed, most
didn't carry rifles, very few maga hats, and the crowdshots.
I saw many diverse people, all true. And also the
only reference to Trump that I saw was some of
the soldiers gathered started singing Happy Birthday to him impromptu,
(16:21):
and that was very on the spot, and I don't
think they were put up to that and left.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
What have you believed that messed? That's ridiculous. Continuing now
texts see here Happy ten year.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Anniversary of Trump coming down the escalator and announcing his
run for president. Thank god he ran in one great
day to play the clip of all the Dems like
Pelosi and Obama, along with the Hollywood elite like Tom
Hanks and teleprompter readers such as Rachel Maddow saying Trump
would never be president alexa ooh yeah, I think that
ranks as Dan Kaplis's favorite video of all time. He
(16:57):
goes back, he tells me this, and I have no
reason to doubt him. Dan Caplis will go back and
watch that night Election Night twenty sixteen and the returns
coming in. And if you remember watching it in real time,
which I was, I know many of you were, it
was the Panhandle of Florida where everything turned.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Florida looked like, oh, it might be going for Hillary.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
No, it's not Western Panhandle Florida bright Ruby red, of course,
but enough to tip the state and the electoral votes
to Trump.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Pennsylvania would soon follow suit.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Michigan was not announced to the next day I think
a couple of states Wisconsin were like that as well.
But the indicators were that Hillary was not competing where
she should and what should have been swinging states like
Ohio and North Carolina in Iowa, and it all pointed
toward a Trump victory. One of the greatest upsets in
political history. I mean, you could look at maybe Harry S. Truman,
(17:46):
one of my favorite all time presidents. Dewey defeats Truman
the front page of the newspaper. He's holding it up,
that iconic image. Everybody thought Thomas Dewey was going to win,
and Truman pulled it out of the fire. Great upset there, well,
Trump and twenty sixteen, what were the New York Times
He had had like less than a one percent chance
of winning, was somewhere in that neighborhood, that vicinity, and
he won.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
He won, and the Democrats never accepted that.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
In fact, when you remember it was the front page,
I believe the Washington Posts and that the U the
race to impeach President Trump begins like on inauguration Day, Well,
he hadn't even done anything yet, he even been sworn
in yet, so you knew the die was cast or
what they were going to try to do.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
It was attainted election.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
This is ironic given what we just talked about with
Jimmy Russia collusion.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Trump didn't really win, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
There was some kind of manipulation of the social media
websites like Facebook, and the Russians were in on it,
and they were wanting Trump to win and they had
their favorite horse. There is that kind of malfeasance in
every election from Russia, Shine and other bad actors. Doesn't
mean that it changed the results of an election, doesn't
mean that it changed a bunch of people's minds. A
lot of these Russian footprints, when you look at the
(18:53):
digital kind of aspect of them, they're they're real flimsy,
They're not even that convincing. So these cheap fakes, deep fakes,
what didn't mean a hill of beans? Stay tuned, Miranda
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We have a great military. There's no woke in our military.
I got rid of that. Getting rid of woke in
our schools on military and just in our society was
very But that's one of the things I did. People,
you're not seeing woke anymore. Now you're seeing it is
almost it almost became illegal.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yes, it's It.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Was horrible for this country.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
It was.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
It was a curse in our country. And all it
took was for you to just say it's it's rubbish. Yes,
it was rubbish. It was garbage, it was sick, transgender.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
For everyone, all of this stuff, and it was killing
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That's the voice you heard conducting this interview, this exclusive
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Speaker 2 (21:37):
For having me, Ryan, how are you.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I'm fantastic and I can only imagine what a neat
experience it was sitting down with the commander in chief
a one on one interview, and he wrote an article
about it, just about the setting, the background, the time
that he afforded you and what that was. Like, what
can you tell our listeners about that?
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Look, I think Donald Trump is so so sort of
misunderstood by his detractors. He is a really generous person.
He's very hospitable no matter who you are, whether you're
just a journalist there to do an interview, or a
head of state, or you know, someone at one of
(22:17):
his clubs, or a regular person that he just meets.
He's so hospitable in fact, that he has bruises all
over the back of his hand because everybody wants to
shake his hand, and he shakes their hand. You know,
he would never make them feel uncomfortable by not doing that,
even though it stands to reason. And if you have
(22:38):
hundreds of people, you know, and many of them very
vigorously squeezing his hand, it's going to end up having
a sore hand. But he just you know, soldiers on
and doesn't complain about occasionally has to put a bandage
on it, but you know, he will give you the
food off his plate. He is very generous and also
with his time and his thoughts, and you can see
(23:00):
out the way he invites the public, you know, the
American people into the oval of us, gives all those
press conferences. He is the most accessible president ever. And
I think that it's such a stark contrast to.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
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Speaker 3 (23:22):
But what was the.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Takeaway that you had from that experience of interviewing the president,
Miranda that stood out to you? Was this the first
time that you had interviewed him in such a setting.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
No, In fact, I interviewed him just a couple of
months previously on Air Force One, but that was different.
That was, you know, a print interview and I was
trying to get news and front pages and so on,
which I did, but this time it was more a conversation.
So we had forty five minutes. And I think podcasts
are different in that you want to try.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
And tease out, you know, information, ideas, in motivations, desires
from these very powerful people who you know, I mean,
we're having the privilege to have that time with them
and talk to them, and you want to delve a
little bit deeper.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Than you would in a normal in a normal comp
sort of interview, sort of more a conversation and look
from President Trump, and we talked about everything from you know,
the issue that Elon Musk had created and having a
few fights with various cabinet members and then going nuts
on on X attacking President Trump. He was actually very
(24:38):
gracious about that and didn't rule out, you know, one
day reconciling with him. But also about Joe Biden, the
mess that he'd left, the auto pen. How how you
can actually spot when an autopen has been used. President
Trump said that there are little pin holes that appear
on the paper from the machine, and right down to
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things like when he was a child, he was quite
a rambunctious little boy. He's the fourth of five children,
and his parents in the end sent him off to
a military school at the age of thirteen to straighten
him out, he said. But also they sent him for
aptitude testing when he was younger and discovered that, much
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to his father's chagrin, that his genius was in music.
He really had an ear for music. He could remember notes,
you know, an hour later, they'd play him a note
in an hour later, they'd pay a few notes since
they can pick out the one you heard an hour ago,
and he would be able to. So his mother wanted
to capitalize on that by getting him music lessons, and
(25:44):
so he learned the flute for a time. Can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I can actually?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
And it kind of fits in with the parade that
we watched on Saturday. She mentioned conducting an interview on
Air Force one. Her podcast is called pod Force one.
If you want to hear the entire conversation and see it,
you can seek it out there. Her exclusive one on
one interview with President Trump. But Branda just a closing thought.
He mentioned the military and how much more morale had
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risen on his watch, brief as it has been since
being sworn in earlier this year, but recruitment numbers are
through the roof, and what we watched on Saturday in
contrast with the no Kings rallies around the nation, how
would you paint that contrast?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
And what does it mean for our country and for
our military?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, it was a real split screen moment, wasn't it.
We saw the two Americans. We saw the patriotic, uplifting,
you know, feel good military parades that was such a
triumph for the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. And you know,
John Trump's detractors that it was all about him. It
(26:51):
was barely about him. It was all about he let
the army really star. The contrast then was to the Demo,
so their mean spirited and small minded anti Trump protests
around the country, which of course erupted in violence because
they have their militants, their antifar wing, their street wing
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of communists, lunatics in Black Bloc who are violent and
ugly and angry and direct, and you know, someone was
killed in Utah sadly in one of these protests. They
are just escalating the violent rhetoric and the hatred and
antagonism to Donald Trump, despite the fact that he's had
(27:37):
two assassination attempts against him. Because the Democrats just feel
so impotent. They are seeing that Donald Trump is winning
over their voters day by day, inch by inch, just
with good policy that's making their lives better. I have
a story coming out tomorrow because I interviewed Scott Vessant,
(27:58):
the Treasury Secretary for the next episode this week, and
he's shown us that a blue collar wage growth is
up at a record level after just five months of
this administration. The only other time that it was almost
as high within Donald Trump's first term, it plummeted during
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Joe Biden's term because his inflation was so sky high.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And so that's what the.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Democrats' former voters are looking at. They like what they
see and know. Immigrant Americans are the ones that are
most supportive of Donald Trump's border policies because they came
the right way. The legal immigrants came the right way
to this country, and it's not fair that people that
break the law to come here should undercut their wages
(28:49):
and jump the queue. And so Donald Trump is enacting
all those policies and they're very popular, and so the
Democratic Party doesn't have any policies to speak of. All
their policies are just not popular. I mean, they're eighty
twenty ninety ten issues that they're on the wrong side of.
And so, you know, opening the border and transgender everything
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is not what the American people, the average person wants,
and so they're not willing to change, and so all
they have is hating Donald Trump, demonizing Donald Trump to
try and stop people from you know, supporting him. I mean,
Donald Trump doesn't have to run for reelection. This is
his second term. He has nothing to lose. He's going
(29:33):
for broke. He's just determined that he's going to fix
the problem that he was bequeathed by Joe Biden. And
he's doing it at the rate of not in Trump time.
And I think the military parade was part of that.
It was really just to demonstrate pride in the troops
to you know, why have it was going to happen
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anyway under Joe Biden because it's a two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary flag day on Saturday just happened to be
Donald Trump's birthday. He didn't throw a parade for himself
for his birthday, but you know, Joe Biden would have
done some embarrassing little thing with a couple of tanks
and you know, a few pride flags, and Donald Trump
decided to do it promptly, and so that's what he did.
(30:16):
And it was just a sign to our adversary in
this you know, sort of time of global upheaval, that
the American military is not to be trifled with.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Here her full conversation with the President Pod Force one
and her upcoming conversation as she mentioned, with Secretary Treasury
Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessen. You can follow her
on exit. Miranda Devine spelled D E V I n
E with The New York Post. Miranda, thank you as
always for your time. Really appreciated, especially after your conversation
with the President.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Thanks Grian, really good to talk to you again.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
All right, Randa Devine a time out. When we come back,
I'm going down memory lane. My high school baseball teammate
Roger Cook is going to join me. Grass Lake High School,
my alma mater, winning its first ever state championship in
Michigan in girls softball, and he was at the helm
for it. Just happened this week and a come from
behind winover Claire and I'll go down memory lane when
we come back after this on Ryan Shuling Live, we
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are the warriors who built this town. I'm gonna take
five minutes with my former high school baseball teammate, class
of ninety two, first basement pitcher, Roger Cook, who happens
to also be the head coach of the girls' softball
program that just won their first state championship in Michigan
High School Athletic Association history joins us here on Ryan
(31:36):
Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Roger, congratulations, my man.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Ryan.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
So good to hear from you, and thank you to Kelly,
who was the first one from Denver, Colorado. Wish us
congratulations on the state championship yesterday.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
You've gone national now, Roger, it's official here in Denver, Colorado.
Could not be happier to be talking to you. I
was keeping tabs on this team throughout your run. Ours
sadly ended for our senior year in baseball in the
regional final. I still think about that game every day.
I was hitting behind you in the batting order, and
things happen anyway. You're down two to one, your girls
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are down in the sixth inning, going to the seventh,
the final inning, and your girls find a way take
us from there.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Ran our team this year. We don't have any true leader.
We've got three seniors, Bresaust, Emily Brown, and Nadine Hubbard.
But they love all these girls. I mean, we haven't
a questrian playing third base. We've got a basketball all
star playing left, got a stud volleyball player and right.
You know, so they just don't know. We said after
the game, like, what are we even doing here? But
it was unbelievable. So when the seventh eight to nine
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came up in the line up there with just that
last inning, it was surreal. I mean one person had
to step up. Then it carried on, it carried on
and finished it off there in the seventh.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
There was a fly ball.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I watched the video of this hit late in this contest,
bottom of the seventh. I think Claire had a runner
on third. It was pretty deep. What was going through
your mind and your heart at that moment, you know,
just the.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Fact that we were even there was surreal. So I thought,
you know what, it's a routine fly ball. We got
this the whole thing. She just been magical the whole trip.
Grass Lakes getting behind this the whole time, and they
happened to hit it to Reese Lake, who wasn't even
sure if she was going to play softball, obviously, the
sister of Braden Lath full of athletes in that family,
chief chomping her feet that ball was in the air
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for it seemed like eternity, But she made a great play,
had a great game on it, and when she caught it. Oh,
it was just an unbelievable feeling.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
My buddy Roger Cook, former high school teammate grass Lake
back in Michigan, winning the Division three state championship and
girls softball first time ever in school history, defeating Claire
in a nail bier five to four.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Late there.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
You may have heard the name Braden Lape on this
program before because he was on this program before as
a contestant on the Voice. So here's Grasslake, Michigan again,
Roger making the headlines.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I can only imagine how proud of this.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Group you must be, not just the group, but all
of grass Lake, you know as well as I do.
From the days of dominating in Bryce barn over there
in grass Lakes all the way up the tradition of
eighty eight state championships with my brother Ryan and then
my brother for part of that picture. I mean, the
tradition continues. And obviously after the game we came in,
we had a police car in front. He volunteered his
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time fire trucks behind us and the entire grass Lake
was and drove down there as they had a party
for us when we got back.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
This is a town that gets behind its sports teams.
Unlike any I've ever seen, I think in Michigan or
even here in Colorado. I know it's kind of inside baseball.
U pun intended for me to say that, but it
really is unique, Roger. Isn't it that the grass Lake experience,
the hometown that you and I share about, just how
much they rally behind these athletic programs.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
Absolutely, French Shop rates donated food, hats the timetime, Joel
Pine and Joey Pine the hardware are donating water. We
weren't even asking, hey, what can we give you? What
can we give you? They came out people I haven't
talked to in years. Sitting in the state, I've had
over four hundred texts, you know, from grass Lake people
and around the county. It's just that's the best part
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about it, you know. And like I told the kids
after and told the crowd, it's either are just good kids.
They're just really really good kids. No one better than
the others, just all get along and that's what comes
out of it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
So very proud.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
You're part of that building block there too, Ryan, So
don't tell yourself. Sure you've been there since the beginning
at grass Lake.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Well, thank you, Roger, appreciate that tremendous offensive output throughout
the season too. This was a special group for so
many reasons.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
You mentioned the.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Multiple talents, and I just want to close I think
with one play that I saw. You mentioned your equestrian
third basement, but there was a bunt laid down runner
charging home from third and she executes the spin move.
I don't know that I can do it justice just
over the radio, but can you take us through that play?
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Pretty unbelievable move by her. We work on it in practice.
I called time out. We got we talked to her.
Usually they have a choice if they want to throw
it to first or get the runner. We said, we've
got to get the runner if it comes to you,
if it's anybody else, if you don't have a play,
get the out. Sometimes in practice she throws it off
the catcher ninety miles an hour from five feet away.
But she looked like Michael Jordan o a dance move
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right there, cossing at the home she well deserved. She's
a freshman, made a fantastic play right there for grass Lake.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Such a great mix of talent and a bunch that
will be remembered for all time as the first ever
state champions in girls softball from my high school alma mater,
Grass Lake, my buddy Roger Cook, high school teammate all
those years ago. Roger, I can't put into words how
proud I am of the school, of the community of you,
and the job that you did as head coach. Thank
you so much for taking a few minutes with me
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here today, Brian.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Thank you so much. We knew you were going to
be famous from the first days of announcing up in
the broadcast booth at Grass Lake.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I miss you, brother.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Congratulations to you all right, go Warriors.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Roger Cooked there, and thanks for indulging me for a
moment there as I reflect upon my high school alma
mater and Roger graduated with me class of ninety two.
That'll do it for me from here for now. John
Caldera filling in for Dan kaplis next.
Kelly, you are the community to this president's chaos, and
together we build a future of opportunity and justice for all.
Home over fear, aspiration over anger, the promise of America
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for each and every American. That is what we are
fighting for today. So I say, the people united will
therefore be confided. People die, Oh please, people you die, will.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Never be.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Divided.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Chase the lyric Randy Winingarten real sly there. Can you imagine, Like.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
If you're a teacher out there, how.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Do you feel about the American Federation for Teachers President
Randy Winingarten making a clown of herself being represented by
that that represents you. I know you don't want it
to necessarily he probably don't if you're listening to this show.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But when are the teachers going, you know what? Enough? Okay,
we can't stand this woman.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
She kept schools closed down really dramatically, affecting kids, their
learning abilities, their socialization skills, their test scores, their grades,
all of that.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
A generation of kids is coming up right now.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
We're talking about younger gen zs that will never forget
what was done to them, and they're never going to
forget who was responsible for it, and that is why
you're seeing this wave of conservatism, a red wave among
younger voters supporting the likes of President Trump in numbers
we've never seen with a younger generation, which typically leans
(01:47):
more liberal, including my own. Well, Jimmy Sangeberger makes fun
of me all the time for being a gen X
so easy. He's a millennial and he's rooting for jd Vance.
That might not be your first choice, but just for
this purpose, being a millennial and skipping a gen xer
for president, you'd love it.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I would love that history to be made and for
generation acts to be passed over once again.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
That's terrible, like it should be.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
We it would be fitting because we were the latch
key kid generation raised by television.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's kind of left to our own devices.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Breakfast Club is a good kind of indicator of all
of the things that we felt the angst. I mean,
what do you what do you think brought on grunge music?
We're overlooked and I'm not complaining about It's just a fact, alike.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
I've got the world's smallest harmonica here. I will start
playing it for you and your fellow Gen xers think
I'd have to be really whenever I hear, well, look
at the young voters. I remember, millennials are not the
young voters anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
No their parents exactly. They're starting lives of their own
and moving in their own direction.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Jese, it is wild.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Jimmy's one of them, and you can follow him on
exit saying center, SENG, center, CE, and tr. He was
just filling in for Mandy Connell crossed the hall. Sports
guys took over, said come on over here. We'll talk
a little bit more. But one of the main things
I wanted you to address, Jimmy is something you've been
covering closely, following closely, and that is the trial of
Mike Lindell, the MyPillow guy, and his accusations, his aspersions
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that he has cast against a particular member of dominion
voting a former executive with them about a stolen election,
and that the machines were either tampered with or manipulated
in some way. I mean this, of course, all derives
into the teen of Peters scandal and what she tried
to recreate and how she tried to do it. But
the thing I heard you talking about over there is
if you have the evidence, where is it present?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It take us from there, if you would at least look,
this was a chance.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
The trial was not specifically about twenty twenty in and
of itself, but Mike Lindell made a lot of claims
that you cannot avoid tying into this case. Because that's
why this guy, doctor Eric Komer, former VP of Dominion,
was put in the spotlight. People were looking at him
as sort of in a myth. Any myth needs to
(04:03):
have a hero and a villain. He was sort of
the villain that they could point to, Oh my gosh,
this Eric Komer guy, and so that ties in. You
cannot They're inextricably linked. And so if you finally have
a chance in the court of law to bring out
all the supposed evidence and you claim you've got thirty
five experts proving that the election was stolen and voting
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machines can be rigged in this way that flips votes.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
And everything, and it happened.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
We got to get rid of the voting machines, go
back to paper ballots, hand counted. Then why wouldn't you
put up the evidence, bring out the experts instead. The
one and only expert that came forward as an expert
was admitted as an expert was doctor Alex J. Halderman,
who was a plaintiff's witness, who said, look, yeah, we
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got vulnerabilities in our system, but that's totally different from
those vulnerabilities actually being exploited or any evidence of Malfison's
in the elections. And he was not a good witness
for Lindell's side, and they didn't counter with their own expert.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
What does its stake for Mike Lindell here if the
jury comes back with a verdict against.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Him, sixty two million dollars between himself, his company's my
Pillow also defendant, and Frank Speech also a defendant.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
So you take into account that consequence. But it's not
just that, Jimmy, it's the money that I know Mike
Lindell invested on his own accord into the investigation of
this potential fraud that he was alleging. So he'll be
double sung into this venture, almost.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Exactly double sung, because he says he spent over forty
million dollars of his own money up to fifty million
and is ten million dollars in the hole.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So when people accused him of executing a grift, I
don't deny that there were some people who were doing that,
I believe to try to get whatever he likes, clix.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Donations, anything along those lines.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
But it was Lindell literally putting his money where his
mouth was. But why did he he thinks so much
on what was a losing bet and he didn't have
the evidence.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I don't understand the why here.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
It is tough to tell that given that he kept
not only coming up short, but also having people who
would come up short or whose own people sometimes would say, hey,
don't trust this guy, but he did. There was one
guy who was a witness, Dennis Montgomery, who he trusted
his stuff early on, but there were people within his.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Group and he still does within it.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
There were people within his group who said, don't trust
this guy his stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
He doesn't have the goods.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Look in this other direction, I feel like Lindell willfully
went uh was taken for a ride. And I say
willfully because he would be given all kinds of contrary
evidence demonstrating that these theories were wrong or debunked, and
yet he would ignore them and continue charting forward. But
he would spend millions on so called experts on you know,
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people like Tina Peters and her legal defense got multitudes
of millions of dollars from either him or his legal
defense fund, or to the symposiums and conferences that he
hosted so the different speakers there would get money. At
this cyber symposium in August of twenty twenty one, he
spent thirty thousand dollars a piece on ten people in
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a so called red team. That red team came up
with bump kiss there and also suppose of that Denis
Montgomery guy that I mentioned got a two million dollar
house from him, So I think he was fleeced by
other people, but sort of willfully so, wanting to just
keep going for whatever reason. And you know, he could
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say it's because I believed it, but that's not good enough.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Jimmy Seckenberger joining us, he's all over this case and
covering it for the Denver Gazette. You followed his feed
at saying center sengng ce n t ER. Now, Jimmy,
do we anticipate a verdict? Does this tell you anything
that they've taken maybe longer.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
So what's interesting is a couple hours ago or almost
three hours ago now apparently the jury came with the question.
They've asked a handful of questions today during their deliberations,
and this question asked the judge, can we defer to
you for damages?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Can you tell us how much we should attribute to here?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
And the judge said, no, that's part of your fact
finding mission as the jury. But what that signals to
me is they're at a point where they are considering damages,
which indicates there's a good chance he, maybe his companies
as well, will lose, but not to the level that
Eric Kumer wants of sixty two million, but somewhere in
between zero and sixty two.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
They've got their mind made up on the verdict itself
being guilty for Lindell, but that the dollar amount they
might be quippling on just to say, well, we want
to give him everything, but he should do something.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's what it seems like to me.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Why else would you specifically use one of your questions
to the judge and say, hey, we want to get
the court back in so we can ask about damages.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Here's my concern, Jimmy, and that is there are legitimate
questions and concerns I think about our life right here
in Colorado under the leadership of Jenna Griswold, who is
a corrupt partisan figure, and you've outlined Joan Lopez and
some of her incompetence in a Rapaole County. But this does, however,
is it presents a smoke screen and it does a
favor for that side when somebody like Tina Peters Mike
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Lindell advanced these bombastic accusations of election fraud and papers
over what could be looking under the hood, some real issues.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But now the Democrats like, wow, they're crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
They make these wild accusations, none of it's true, and
they get off the hook.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
You have hit on a point I have been making
for years that this plays into the hands of a
Jenna Griswold because then she goes on MSNBC and elsewhere
and raises millions of dollars to run for Attorney General
or re election for Secretary of State before claiming that
she is the leader fighting against the big lie and
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the evil MAGA movement, when really, in reality she a
corrupt actor herself.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
She's a hyper partisan hack.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
She's lost so much in turnover in terms of her
staff to so many problems, but that becomes exactly a
smoke screen or a shield for her to against criticism
and also from the.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Real questions that could be raised.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
As you were pointing out, we do not I think
we have a very good system in Colorado, we do
not have a perfect system and even election officials.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
So Matt Crane, the.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Executive director of the Colorado County Clerks Association, testified as
the second witness in this trial, and one of the
points that he made, I think in the case, if
I recall, is that this actually undermines election officials who
want to hear genuine criticism, who concerns and have a
real discussion about what needs to be improved.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
See.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I always go with this legal theory of it's not
what you know, it's what you can prove in a
court of law.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And the problem again.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
With this case is it's not what Mike Lindell knew,
it's what he tried to wish cast into existence, this
election fraud. And then it's not even what he could
prove because they didn't have the evidence to bring forward
to prove it. Because one of the biggest kind of
stances I've seen people take that are on the there
was election fraud in twenty twenty, it was wrongfully stolen.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
How did Joe Biden get eighty one million votes.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I have that question too, by the way, in terms
of methods and how it was done, the canvassing, the
gathering of votes, But again it's what you.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Can prove in a court of law.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
So when you look at it through that prism and
from that perspective, Jimmy about there being any kind of
fraud that they couldn't get standing in the courts, that
was their biggest thing. Jenna Ellis talked about that at length,
we're not granted at standing.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
We didn't even get a chance to present their case.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Now there's a chance in this trial, and still the
evidence isn't being brought up.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
And what's notable is that in Tina Peters case, they
claimed she was not allowed to bring forward all the evidence.
But that's because it was a criminal case where you
had to focus on the charges. And the judge I
thought was very deliberate whenever he would explain why you
wouldn't allow a certain witness or allow a certain piece
of evidence into the trial is because it wasn't material
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to the.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Charges in a criminal case.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
This is a different story where now Mike Lindell had
the opportunity to present all kinds of stuff and he
decided not to do it and justified that in part.
One of the things his lawyer would say, it asked
him and cross examination of his own client, was could
any of these thirty five experts testify as to your
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state of mind and whether you believe this? The whole
argument was, well, they're not experts on Lindell's state of mind,
and that's the real issue, showing that he believed the
things he was saying, So we're not going to have
him come in as experts.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Can believe in Santa Claus, you know what I mean.
I mean, you could use these ridiculous examples, but they
make the point of what was Mike Lindell's state of mind?
Is he trying to argue that, hey, I was crazy.
I don't know, I believed it. I was an idiot.
Was there a maya culpa involved? Now, hey, I believe Canard.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
No, he continues to believe it, and continues to say
that he stands by criminal and trader. In fact, interesting
like he called Kyle Clark a trader and interview with
Kyle Kloss saw that, but.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It wasn't something about Kyle.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
It was about that Kyle was a blocker, so I
would be a trader, I think in the mind of
Mike Lindell as well, because I don't platform falsities about
the twenty twenty election or the voting machines.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
And what have you.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I will have a real discussion about things like you
mentioned Joe Lopez, or the bios passwords lead from Jenny
Griswold or what have you. Legitimate things, But I'm not
going to platform stuff that does not have a basis
in reality and has been disproven time after time.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
One final note, I'm glad a Texter sent this in
Jimmy just to get your comment on it, and that
is did you see that DOJ is requesting the twenty
twenty and twenty twenty four election records for Colorado. I
think it was Fox News' website. I saw that on yesterday.
This apparently has been spearheaded by Pam Bondi herself the Age.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
What are your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I think maybe it's connected with the federal look into
Tina Peters. Interestingly enough, if the Feds have been conducting
their own investigation into Tina for a few years, that
hasn't gone anywhere yet. But that same department is supposedly
looking into whether or not the local trial of Tina
was done properly. Honestly, I think it's ridiculous. I just
(14:33):
I get a little bit with bios. But there's nothing,
I think to provide a basis for the Trump administration
to do this, And I think they are going in
a direction that is going to distract from a meaningful
agenda for them as opposed to something real.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
So to put a fine point on at the topic
of discussion, this trial happening right here in Denver for
Mike Lindell. You're predicting guilty verdict just a matter of
dollar amount.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
That's what it seems. That's what it seems at this point.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I certainly was leaning in the direction of a of
a Komer victory based on the trial. But I wrote
a big analysis on Friday night at Saying Center, Saying
with a knee and on an a center on X
where I broke it down and said, you know, I
think odds are in his favor. But now it does
give an indication, yes, that Mike Lindell will probably lose
this trial.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
The very latest, and as he stated, you can follow
his feed on X at Saying Center, seng ce n
t e Er Jimmy Sangenberger, our guest in studio. Jimmy,
thank you as always forget Tyler. Appreciate you, better believe it.
Let's get to some more texts here. Shoe red Wings
will always suck forever, all time, suckage tards. That's really
harsh and I don't think that's fair. All I've got
(15:39):
to say is the Red Wings, over that span that
there was this war between nineteen ninety six and O two,
won three Stanley Cups, and when we had one for
good measure in two thousand and eight, the Avalanche did
not get to that number. That's all I'm saying, not
even with the recent cup that they won a few
years ago.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Ryan, I was very pleased with the parade.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Some soldiers smile and waving, very little of Trump's birthday,
not authoritarian at all. Most soldiers looked reat relaxed, most
didn't carry rifles, very few maga hats, and the crowdshots.
I saw many diverse people, all true. And also the
only reference to Trump that I saw was some of
the soldiers gathered started singing Happy Birthday to him impromptu,
(16:21):
and that was very on the spot, and I don't
think they were put up to that and left.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
What have you believed that messed? That's ridiculous. Continuing now
texts see here Happy ten year.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Anniversary of Trump coming down the escalator and announcing his
run for president. Thank god he ran in one great
day to play the clip of all the Dems like
Pelosi and Obama, along with the Hollywood elite like Tom
Hanks and teleprompter readers such as Rachel Maddow saying Trump
would never be president alexa ooh yeah, I think that
ranks as Dan Kaplis's favorite video of all time. He
(16:57):
goes back, he tells me this, and I have no
reason to doubt him. Dan Caplis will go back and
watch that night Election Night twenty sixteen and the returns
coming in. And if you remember watching it in real time,
which I was, I know many of you were, it
was the Panhandle of Florida where everything turned.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Florida looked like, oh, it might be going for Hillary.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
No, it's not Western Panhandle Florida bright Ruby red, of course,
but enough to tip the state and the electoral votes
to Trump.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Pennsylvania would soon follow suit.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Michigan was not announced to the next day I think
a couple of states Wisconsin were like that as well.
But the indicators were that Hillary was not competing where
she should and what should have been swinging states like
Ohio and North Carolina in Iowa, and it all pointed
toward a Trump victory. One of the greatest upsets in
political history. I mean, you could look at maybe Harry S. Truman,
(17:46):
one of my favorite all time presidents. Dewey defeats Truman
the front page of the newspaper. He's holding it up,
that iconic image. Everybody thought Thomas Dewey was going to win,
and Truman pulled it out of the fire. Great upset there, well,
Trump and twenty sixteen, what were the New York Times
He had had like less than a one percent chance
of winning, was somewhere in that neighborhood, that vicinity, and
he won.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
He won, and the Democrats never accepted that.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
In fact, when you remember it was the front page,
I believe the Washington Posts and that the U the
race to impeach President Trump begins like on inauguration Day, Well,
he hadn't even done anything yet, he even been sworn
in yet, so you knew the die was cast or
what they were going to try to do.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
It was attainted election.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
This is ironic given what we just talked about with
Jimmy Russia collusion.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Trump didn't really win, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
There was some kind of manipulation of the social media
websites like Facebook, and the Russians were in on it,
and they were wanting Trump to win and they had
their favorite horse. There is that kind of malfeasance in
every election from Russia, Shine and other bad actors. Doesn't
mean that it changed the results of an election, doesn't
mean that it changed a bunch of people's minds. A
lot of these Russian footprints, when you look at the
(18:53):
digital kind of aspect of them, they're they're real flimsy,
They're not even that convincing. So these cheap fakes, deep fakes,
what didn't mean a hill of beans? Stay tuned, Miranda
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Speaker 6 (20:30):
We have a great military. There's no woke in our military.
I got rid of that. Getting rid of woke in
our schools on military and just in our society was
very But that's one of the things I did. People,
you're not seeing woke anymore. Now you're seeing it is
almost it almost became illegal.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yes, it's It.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Was horrible for this country.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
It was.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
It was a curse in our country. And all it
took was for you to just say it's it's rubbish. Yes,
it was rubbish. It was garbage, it was sick, transgender.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
For everyone, all of this stuff, and it was killing
our country. No, our country's back. We're really back. You know,
we have the hottest country in the world right now.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Follow her at Miranda Divine.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
That's the voice you heard conducting this interview, this exclusive
one on one interview for her podcast, and of course
she covers all things politics for the New York Posts
from their chief journalists there and chief behind the exposure
of the Biden family corruption schemes in two different books.
She joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live, Miranda Divine, Welcome, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
For having me, Ryan, how are you.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
I'm fantastic and I can only imagine what a neat
experience it was sitting down with the commander in chief
a one on one interview, and he wrote an article
about it, just about the setting, the background, the time
that he afforded you and what that was. Like, what
can you tell our listeners about that?
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Look, I think Donald Trump is so so sort of
misunderstood by his detractors. He is a really generous person.
He's very hospitable no matter who you are, whether you're
just a journalist there to do an interview, or a
head of state, or you know, someone at one of
(22:17):
his clubs, or a regular person that he just meets.
He's so hospitable in fact, that he has bruises all
over the back of his hand because everybody wants to
shake his hand, and he shakes their hand. You know,
he would never make them feel uncomfortable by not doing that,
even though it stands to reason. And if you have
(22:38):
hundreds of people, you know, and many of them very
vigorously squeezing his hand, it's going to end up having
a sore hand. But he just you know, soldiers on
and doesn't complain about occasionally has to put a bandage
on it, but you know, he will give you the
food off his plate. He is very generous and also
with his time and his thoughts, and you can see
(23:00):
out the way he invites the public, you know, the
American people into the oval of us, gives all those
press conferences. He is the most accessible president ever. And
I think that it's such a stark contrast to.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Joe Biden Brandon Divine our guest again, author of Laptop
from Hell and The Big Guy. You can find either
one of those books on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
But what was the.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Takeaway that you had from that experience of interviewing the president,
Miranda that stood out to you? Was this the first
time that you had interviewed him in such a setting.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
No, In fact, I interviewed him just a couple of
months previously on Air Force One, but that was different.
That was, you know, a print interview and I was
trying to get news and front pages and so on,
which I did, but this time it was more a conversation.
So we had forty five minutes. And I think podcasts
are different in that you want to try.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
And tease out, you know, information, ideas, in motivations, desires
from these very powerful people who you know, I mean,
we're having the privilege to have that time with them
and talk to them, and you want to delve a
little bit deeper.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Than you would in a normal in a normal comp
sort of interview, sort of more a conversation and look
from President Trump, and we talked about everything from you know,
the issue that Elon Musk had created and having a
few fights with various cabinet members and then going nuts
on on X attacking President Trump. He was actually very
(24:38):
gracious about that and didn't rule out, you know, one
day reconciling with him. But also about Joe Biden, the
mess that he'd left, the auto pen. How how you
can actually spot when an autopen has been used. President
Trump said that there are little pin holes that appear
on the paper from the machine, and right down to
(25:00):
things like when he was a child, he was quite
a rambunctious little boy. He's the fourth of five children,
and his parents in the end sent him off to
a military school at the age of thirteen to straighten
him out, he said. But also they sent him for
aptitude testing when he was younger and discovered that, much
(25:21):
to his father's chagrin, that his genius was in music.
He really had an ear for music. He could remember notes,
you know, an hour later, they'd play him a note
in an hour later, they'd pay a few notes since
they can pick out the one you heard an hour ago,
and he would be able to. So his mother wanted
to capitalize on that by getting him music lessons, and
(25:44):
so he learned the flute for a time. Can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I can actually?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
And it kind of fits in with the parade that
we watched on Saturday. She mentioned conducting an interview on
Air Force one. Her podcast is called pod Force one.
If you want to hear the entire conversation and see it,
you can seek it out there. Her exclusive one on
one interview with President Trump. But Branda just a closing thought.
He mentioned the military and how much more morale had
(26:11):
risen on his watch, brief as it has been since
being sworn in earlier this year, but recruitment numbers are
through the roof, and what we watched on Saturday in
contrast with the no Kings rallies around the nation, how
would you paint that contrast?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
And what does it mean for our country and for
our military?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, it was a real split screen moment, wasn't it.
We saw the two Americans. We saw the patriotic, uplifting,
you know, feel good military parades that was such a
triumph for the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. And you know,
John Trump's detractors that it was all about him. It
(26:51):
was barely about him. It was all about he let
the army really star. The contrast then was to the Demo,
so their mean spirited and small minded anti Trump protests
around the country, which of course erupted in violence because
they have their militants, their antifar wing, their street wing
(27:13):
of communists, lunatics in Black Bloc who are violent and
ugly and angry and direct, and you know, someone was
killed in Utah sadly in one of these protests. They
are just escalating the violent rhetoric and the hatred and
antagonism to Donald Trump, despite the fact that he's had
(27:37):
two assassination attempts against him. Because the Democrats just feel
so impotent. They are seeing that Donald Trump is winning
over their voters day by day, inch by inch, just
with good policy that's making their lives better. I have
a story coming out tomorrow because I interviewed Scott Vessant,
(27:58):
the Treasury Secretary for the next episode this week, and
he's shown us that a blue collar wage growth is
up at a record level after just five months of
this administration. The only other time that it was almost
as high within Donald Trump's first term, it plummeted during
(28:20):
Joe Biden's term because his inflation was so sky high.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And so that's what the.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Democrats' former voters are looking at. They like what they
see and know. Immigrant Americans are the ones that are
most supportive of Donald Trump's border policies because they came
the right way. The legal immigrants came the right way
to this country, and it's not fair that people that
break the law to come here should undercut their wages
(28:49):
and jump the queue. And so Donald Trump is enacting
all those policies and they're very popular, and so the
Democratic Party doesn't have any policies to speak of. All
their policies are just not popular. I mean, they're eighty
twenty ninety ten issues that they're on the wrong side of.
And so, you know, opening the border and transgender everything
(29:12):
is not what the American people, the average person wants,
and so they're not willing to change, and so all
they have is hating Donald Trump, demonizing Donald Trump to
try and stop people from you know, supporting him. I mean,
Donald Trump doesn't have to run for reelection. This is
his second term. He has nothing to lose. He's going
(29:33):
for broke. He's just determined that he's going to fix
the problem that he was bequeathed by Joe Biden. And
he's doing it at the rate of not in Trump time.
And I think the military parade was part of that.
It was really just to demonstrate pride in the troops
to you know, why have it was going to happen
(29:54):
anyway under Joe Biden because it's a two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary flag day on Saturday just happened to be
Donald Trump's birthday. He didn't throw a parade for himself
for his birthday, but you know, Joe Biden would have
done some embarrassing little thing with a couple of tanks
and you know, a few pride flags, and Donald Trump
decided to do it promptly, and so that's what he did.
(30:16):
And it was just a sign to our adversary in
this you know, sort of time of global upheaval, that
the American military is not to be trifled with.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Here her full conversation with the President Pod Force one
and her upcoming conversation as she mentioned, with Secretary Treasury
Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessen. You can follow her
on exit. Miranda Devine spelled D E V I n
E with The New York Post. Miranda, thank you as
always for your time. Really appreciated, especially after your conversation
with the President.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Thanks Grian, really good to talk to you again.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
All right, Randa Devine a time out. When we come back,
I'm going down memory lane. My high school baseball teammate
Roger Cook is going to join me. Grass Lake High School,
my alma mater, winning its first ever state championship in
Michigan in girls softball, and he was at the helm
for it. Just happened this week and a come from
behind winover Claire and I'll go down memory lane when
we come back after this on Ryan Shuling Live, we
(31:16):
are the warriors who built this town. I'm gonna take
five minutes with my former high school baseball teammate, class
of ninety two, first basement pitcher, Roger Cook, who happens
to also be the head coach of the girls' softball
program that just won their first state championship in Michigan
High School Athletic Association history joins us here on Ryan
(31:36):
Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Roger, congratulations, my man.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Ryan.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
So good to hear from you, and thank you to Kelly,
who was the first one from Denver, Colorado. Wish us
congratulations on the state championship yesterday.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
You've gone national now, Roger, it's official here in Denver, Colorado.
Could not be happier to be talking to you. I
was keeping tabs on this team throughout your run. Ours
sadly ended for our senior year in baseball in the
regional final. I still think about that game every day.
I was hitting behind you in the batting order, and
things happen anyway. You're down two to one, your girls
(32:10):
are down in the sixth inning, going to the seventh,
the final inning, and your girls find a way take
us from there.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Ran our team this year. We don't have any true leader.
We've got three seniors, Bresaust, Emily Brown, and Nadine Hubbard.
But they love all these girls. I mean, we haven't
a questrian playing third base. We've got a basketball all
star playing left, got a stud volleyball player and right.
You know, so they just don't know. We said after
the game, like, what are we even doing here? But
it was unbelievable. So when the seventh eight to nine
(32:38):
came up in the line up there with just that
last inning, it was surreal. I mean one person had
to step up. Then it carried on, it carried on
and finished it off there in the seventh.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
There was a fly ball.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I watched the video of this hit late in this contest,
bottom of the seventh. I think Claire had a runner
on third. It was pretty deep. What was going through
your mind and your heart at that moment, you know,
just the.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Fact that we were even there was surreal. So I thought,
you know what, it's a routine fly ball. We got
this the whole thing. She just been magical the whole trip.
Grass Lakes getting behind this the whole time, and they
happened to hit it to Reese Lake, who wasn't even
sure if she was going to play softball, obviously, the
sister of Braden Lath full of athletes in that family,
chief chomping her feet that ball was in the air
(33:21):
for it seemed like eternity, But she made a great play,
had a great game on it, and when she caught it. Oh,
it was just an unbelievable feeling.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
My buddy Roger Cook, former high school teammate grass Lake
back in Michigan, winning the Division three state championship and
girls softball first time ever in school history, defeating Claire
in a nail bier five to four.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Late there.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
You may have heard the name Braden Lape on this
program before because he was on this program before as
a contestant on the Voice. So here's Grasslake, Michigan again,
Roger making the headlines.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I can only imagine how proud of this.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Group you must be, not just the group, but all
of grass Lake, you know as well as I do.
From the days of dominating in Bryce barn over there
in grass Lakes all the way up the tradition of
eighty eight state championships with my brother Ryan and then
my brother for part of that picture. I mean, the
tradition continues. And obviously after the game we came in,
we had a police car in front. He volunteered his
(34:14):
time fire trucks behind us and the entire grass Lake
was and drove down there as they had a party
for us when we got back.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
This is a town that gets behind its sports teams.
Unlike any I've ever seen, I think in Michigan or
even here in Colorado. I know it's kind of inside baseball.
U pun intended for me to say that, but it
really is unique, Roger. Isn't it that the grass Lake experience,
the hometown that you and I share about, just how
much they rally behind these athletic programs.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
Absolutely, French Shop rates donated food, hats the timetime, Joel
Pine and Joey Pine the hardware are donating water. We
weren't even asking, hey, what can we give you? What
can we give you? They came out people I haven't
talked to in years. Sitting in the state, I've had
over four hundred texts, you know, from grass Lake people
and around the county. It's just that's the best part
(35:05):
about it, you know. And like I told the kids
after and told the crowd, it's either are just good kids.
They're just really really good kids. No one better than
the others, just all get along and that's what comes
out of it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
So very proud.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
You're part of that building block there too, Ryan, So
don't tell yourself. Sure you've been there since the beginning
at grass Lake.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Well, thank you, Roger, appreciate that tremendous offensive output throughout
the season too. This was a special group for so
many reasons.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
You mentioned the.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Multiple talents, and I just want to close I think
with one play that I saw. You mentioned your equestrian
third basement, but there was a bunt laid down runner
charging home from third and she executes the spin move.
I don't know that I can do it justice just
over the radio, but can you take us through that play?
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Pretty unbelievable move by her. We work on it in practice.
I called time out. We got we talked to her.
Usually they have a choice if they want to throw
it to first or get the runner. We said, we've
got to get the runner if it comes to you,
if it's anybody else, if you don't have a play,
get the out. Sometimes in practice she throws it off
the catcher ninety miles an hour from five feet away.
But she looked like Michael Jordan o a dance move
(36:06):
right there, cossing at the home she well deserved. She's
a freshman, made a fantastic play right there for grass Lake.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Such a great mix of talent and a bunch that
will be remembered for all time as the first ever
state champions in girls softball from my high school alma mater,
Grass Lake, my buddy Roger Cook, high school teammate all
those years ago. Roger, I can't put into words how
proud I am of the school, of the community of you,
and the job that you did as head coach. Thank
you so much for taking a few minutes with me
(36:32):
here today, Brian.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Thank you so much. We knew you were going to
be famous from the first days of announcing up in
the broadcast booth at Grass Lake.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I miss you, brother.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Congratulations to you all right, go Warriors.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Roger Cooked there, and thanks for indulging me for a
moment there as I reflect upon my high school alma
mater and Roger graduated with me class of ninety two.
That'll do it for me from here for now. John
Caldera filling in for Dan kaplis next.
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