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August 5, 2025 37 mins
It's time once again for Critiquing Mass Media 101 with Professor Ryan Schuiling and T.A. (Teaching Assistant) Kelly Kucera, as we outline the blatant mistruths spouted out by Joe Scarborough on Russia Collusion and Marco Rubio's part in the Senate intel committee's investigation into Trump's alleged role in it. Little Marco refutes it directly in an interview with Fox News Radio's Brian Kilmeade.

Alicia Garcia, Colorado gun rights advocate and co-founder of The 2nd Syndicate, joins Ryan to discuss the ongoing battle to protect Second Amendment rights for Coloradans - including efforts to work around the Constitution using medical centers to employ de facto 'red flag' confiscation of guns.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But the one thing we do know, Jonathan Meres, this
is extraordinarily stupid. It's extraordinarily stupid on so many counts.
If you look at a timeline, the timeline doesn't add up.
It's like when Donald Trump is saying that Barack Obama
and Hillary Clinton created the Epstein files. No, no, no, no,
that all happened during Donald Trump's first term. You look
at the timeline here about what happened and when it happened.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Barack Obama had nothing.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
To do with this, by anybody's accounts, and especially by
the Senate Republican Intelligence Committee run by Marco Rubio, who
afterwards said that it was Donald Trump's twenty sixteen campaign
that created a quote grave intelligent counterintelligence threat to the

(00:45):
United States of America. That was Marco Rubio, the current
Secretary of State.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Except that is patently false.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
That is a ball of lies wound together by Joe
Scarborough Surprise on Morning Shoe MSNBC, Ryan Schuling Live with
You texts at five seven, seven thirty nine. The reason
we're opening with this today is again we set up
shop classes in session. Your teaching assistant, Ta Kellyicachera is.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
To my left and you're a professor.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Humbly, I present to you myself, Ryan Schuling, for Critiquing
mass Media one oh one here in the calendar year
of Our Lord, twenty twenty five, I took this course
critiquing mass Media. It was a five hundred level course
where I went to school. But you'll get in at
the ground floor. You don't have to pay tuition, you

(01:40):
don't have to pay room and board. You simply need
to show up for class every day from two to
four pm.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Not bad.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
You know, when you were partying back in your college days,
if you were like me, and many of you were,
and some of you weren't, but a lot of you were,
and you wanted to make sure that you never ever
scheduled an eight or nine am course on Fridays if
you could help it, because Thursday night that was barnight.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's when you went out.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
And I went to Boomers in the Holiday Inn just
off campus at Central Michigan University.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I digress. But this course at a time of day
where you could have partied till.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's like it's nineteen ninety nine till late in the
night last night, and you might be barely sober. You
might be hungover and if you are, congratulations to you.
But here we are buckle in. It's a Tuesday, and
this is your course work for today. I took this

(02:39):
course on year would that have been? That would have
been like nineteen ninety five, so thirty years ago. Back
then it was a much different media landscape. Sure there
was liberal bias, and the great Maha Rushi would tell
us about it each and every day why you couldn't
trust the big free and rather Peter Jennings.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Or Tom Brokaw.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
And at the time I'm talking, you know, when I
was young and naive and wistfully nostalgic for the years
of Walter Cronkite.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
And then I lived through the eighties as a youngster,
as a gen xter, watching the late night news and
the evening news.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
On any of those three networks that my parents chose
to watch, and I wanted to trust these guys. I
wanted to know and feel like they were telling me
the truth, that they were not being arbiters of what
was in their taste but for objective journalistic fact finding.

(03:41):
Joe Scarborough was once allegedly a quote unquote moderate Republican
representative of the US House from Florida. Any pretense he
had of any conservative values whatsoever has long gone flown away.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Now he might be, along.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
With Bill Crystal, George will and some of these others,
faux phony conservatives, never Trump, so called Republicans, and then
all of a sudden they end up spouting this liberal politicking,
pollop bureau type talking points. Nothing about what Joe Scarborough

(04:19):
just said in characterizing the Senate Intel Committee report led
by Yes Senator Marco Ruby at the.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Time, has any basis.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
In fact, he tries to obscure obfuscate what is going
on with the Epstein files, which there is valid criticism
in my mind, and James Comer, Republican Representative of the House,
has just called upon Pam Bondi and the Trump Dog
to testify and to reveal the documents that they have.

(04:50):
I am glad for this. Trump is not correct at
every turn. I have no idea what he's thinking on this.
I think he's point blank wrong. And especially when we
reviewed what Alan Dershowitz had to say yesterday, that was
just awful about he was trying to blur the lines, well,
what is a pedophile.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
And this is Jeff Apstein really fit that definition? Because
he like sixteen seventeen year old girls, I'm ten or
eleven year old girls. You know, this is way less
bad over here. And you know he didn't traffic these girls.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
He just would lend them to Prince Andrew and others
at Epstein Island.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
How were they his to lend alan Professor Derserwitz?

Speaker 5 (05:33):
What?

Speaker 6 (05:35):
So?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Everything about this whole matter stinks.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
And I don't know what Trump is hiding or protecting, because,
like we talked about at length on this program, I
don't think he personally himself specifically has anything to hide.
Are there friends of his that he's protecting? Is Dershowitz
one of them? I don't know. But one of the
things that I'm reassured by, and Chris Christy made this
point yesterday, is this issue won't be going away, but

(06:03):
it's not because of the Democrats, and that's actually a
good thing.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Still facing questions about the Epstein files, Congress has gone
into recess to try to avoid failed issue.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Is it going to go away? No?

Speaker 7 (06:17):
And the reason it's not going to go away is
because it's not a Democrat driven issue. It's a Magga
driven issue.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
And that's why it won't go away. I think the.

Speaker 7 (06:26):
President could very well deflect if Democrats were the only
ones talking about this, but in fact his base is
talking much more about it than he is. And the
other problem, too, George, is that this is not leaked
into popular culture. You know, you saw the jokes about
the president on the SP's, you saw it on South
Park and now you even got this website Calshi.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
That does futures trading where you can.

Speaker 7 (06:48):
Bet on how many times Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Is going to be in the Epstein files.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
You know, when that kind of stuff is going on,
it's now left, as you know, when it leaves the
White House briefing room and goes into popular culture, the
White House briefing.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Room can't control it.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
He's right about that, Chris Christy, and I don't know why. Again,
when you're in crisis management mode, I would gladly lend
my services to any such crisis PR firm that's looking
to get out in front of an issue and mitigate damage.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
He goes, that's what you have to do.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
You drive the narrative, you get out in front of it.
You don't allow things to fester and to marinate in
the public sphere. And for conspiracy theorists to fill the void.
You see where I'm going with this. You come right out,
you tell it like it is, and you scorch the
earth around it. This is a strategy in stopping a fire,

(07:40):
if you want a metaphor for it. Let's say there's
a raging wildfire. Well, to stop that fire, sometimes you
fight fire with fire. Literally, you burn a certain amount
of ground so that once the raging fire gets to
the already burned ground, it can't be burned anymore because
you burned it.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
And that would be.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
The strategy to employ here. With regard to the Epstein files,
Donald Trump has said, and he got into a little
bit of specifics about this last week, that he booted
Epstein from mar A Lago. He was more vague about it.
But when you get into specifics, oh, does it make sense?
Because let's say Trump had hired some weight service staff

(08:20):
at mar A Lago. It's a big, you know, country
club and has a lot of members. They have a
lot of parties and gatherings galas balls, whatever. And maybe
they were young women, and maybe they were teenage women.
I'm not sure how old a lot of these women are.
But the rumor was that Epstein was poaching these young women,

(08:41):
but Trump made it sound like he was stealing employees
so that they'd go work for Epstein instead. But what
were they doing? And when Trump found out about it,
that was it. He got the boot. And even the
lawyer representing a lot of the Epstein victims said Donald
Trump was the only major public figure that fully cooperated,
that called him on the phone, that gave him as
much time as he needed to tell him anything he wanted.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
To know when it came to this Jeffrey Epstein loser.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
So I think Trump actually comes out looking pretty good
in all of this, but maybe there's some details he
feels have been manipulated by the previous administration, the Biden
administration over.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
The four years. But then I go if they had
done that and.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Fabricated it the way that we saw with the Steele
dossier and the Russia collusion hoax, then they would have
come out with that. They wouldn't have gone through all
this law fair with Jack Smith and delegating it to
the likes of Fannie Willis and Alvin Bragg and Latitia
James with these obviously construed legal farcical charges. If they

(09:42):
had something solid on Trump. Even if that were to
be fabricated, they didn't do that. So that's where I
get lost in the sauce a little bit here when
it comes to the Epstein files. But don't let Joe
Scarborough distract you. Russia collusion was a hoax. Donald Trump
had no part in that. And we'll get to Marco
Rubio's commentary along these lines in just a moment. But

(10:04):
here's Scarborough again saying Obama had nothing to do with it,
the timeline doesn't fit. And John Durham all, he made
a fool of himself.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
But the one thing we do know, Jonathan Mere is
this is extraordinarily stupid.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, and then there was.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Every Republican on the Senate Intel Committee after pouring through
all of the documents, that's what they found. And when
poor John Durham was made to sacrifice his professional career
to go around the world investigating the investigators, he found
nothing and ended up.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Making a fool of himself.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I mean, we even found out that the two documents
had supposedly fed into the Clinton conspiracy, that she was
the one pushing this actually was Russian disinformation.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
So again they know in the Justice Department, no, no,
he's entirely off base here. Yeah, it was technically by
a literal deafini and Russian disinformation.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Let me fill in the blanks for you once again.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Hillary Clinton enlisted the services of Jonathan Steele, this disreputable
British tabloidy journalists, private investigator whatever, to gin up some
kind of story that was believable about Donald Trump. And
the narrative was and I got to repeat this because
this gets buried that somehow try to put the piece

(11:26):
of this puzzle together. Donald Trump was in Moscow staying
at a Russian hotel. Maybe he was a guest of
Vladimir Putin, and it just so happened to be the
same hotel that Barack and Michelle Obama had stayed at,
or something along those lines. And in fact it was
the same room and the same beds that they slept in.
And so what Donald Trump did for there is hire

(11:48):
two Russian prostitutes to come into the hotel room where
Barack and Michelle Obama allegedly had slept and they were
to urinate on the bed as some kind of desecration
act against the Obama is some kind of ritualistic urination ceremony.
This is what we're talking about. This embarrassing story and

(12:08):
evidence that Donald Trump somehow was behind that. That was
a story fabricated by a drunken Russian in a bar
spouting off tall tales.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, let me tell you about Bill Bresky, that guy
where he's.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Russian prostituts came in, they been over the bed, and
of course this ought all be in Russian.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
This was the bought and paid for Steele dossier that
the Hillary Clinton campaign procured, presented to John Brennan, who
then advanced it through the upper workings of our intel
agencies FBI and CIA. This goes all the way to
the top, and Marco Rubio will talk about that in
just a moment. And once it was presented to James

(12:57):
Comy that they had compromid on Donald Trump, embarrassing intel
on him. The sleezebag, slimy snake that James Comy is.
He takes this fraudulent phony intel briefing that includes the
Steele dossi and the story I just told you, and
he goes into the Oval office. Comy does and presents

(13:18):
this to Donald Trump. Says, hey, I don't know what
tell you, but this is coming and it's just part
of investigation. I just felt I needed to tell you,
and then by telling him that greenlighted the whole investigation
to go forward. The phony fis, the warrants, everything that
went with it. The Muller Report talk about projection Scarborough
saying John Durham disgraced and dishonored himself, embarrassed himself, humiliated himself.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Muller did that.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
All the millions that went into that phony, fraudulent investigation
that showed up nothing. Marco Rubio isn't buying what Joe
Scarborough's selling, and he refutes it here with Brian Killmea.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Every time a Democrats asked about the investigation into twenty
sixteen in the role of John Brennan and James Comy
and others, they point to an investigation you did, as
Senator I want you to hear Democratic Congressman Jason Crowe.

Speaker 8 (14:07):
There have been four Colorado investigations, including a bipartisan Senate
investigation led under the first Trump administration and led in
part by Marco Rubio that was very very clear on
these findings. These have been investigated and reinvestigated and reinvestigated,
and nothing has changed up until this past month.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
So do you think anything has changed since you did
that thorough investigation Russia medal dinner election period?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Listen to Marco.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
Yeah, but that's not what the question was. I don't
think that the issue is whether Russia did things to
try to influence American public opinion and or drive wedges.
I think here's the thing that they that they lead
out when they talk about this, and they're so dishonest
about it. What they leave out is the issue here
was not that. The issue here was they claimed that
they did it not just to help Trump, but the

(14:53):
Trump was in on it for a year and a half,
almost two and a half years. They put this country
through this notion, this fake fraud scheme lie that Trump
was somehow in cahoots collaborating with Russian and Russian intelligence
officials to help his campaign. And what my investigation that
I was the acting chairman of the Intelligence Committee with

(15:13):
that investigation showed us that there was zero zilch proof whatsoever,
any evidence of any kind that the Trump campaign in
any way colluded with the Russians. That's number one, that's clear.
So I think what they should be saying is that
there was a bipartisan study done by the Senate committee
that found that the narrative that all these people were
putting out there was a lie.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Quick aside, Vladimir Putin is a smart individual. He might
be demonic and vicious and a brutal dictator of a
country that has invaded Ukraine. All that can be true
and yet not be a stupid person. He is very
plugged into American politics and pop culture. Look at his
comments about Black Lives Matter and George Floyd at the
time that was happening in the summer of twenty twenty.

(15:56):
He's plugged in. And what did he know or what
did he think or what did he believe? In twenty sixteen,
all the polls that were showing Hillary Clinton, all the
projections and the betting odds that she.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Was going to win, it was a layup.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
So yes, there was subterfuge from the Russians trying to
permeate into our elections, meaning the campaign cycle, and maybe
undermine Hillary Clinton, make this a tougher, tighter race, try
to make it so that there was discord sown within
the American voting electorate and the boy by doing that
would be to try to kind of pump Trump a
little bit up because while he's gonna lose and we're

(16:30):
gonna have to deal with this Hillary Clinton, that we
want her to be politically damaged. That would be the
calculation by putin here. Rubio goes on, Here's the other thing.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
That report found that the way they handled the dossier.
Understand this dossier, this dossier was a piece of campaign disinformation. YEP,
it was paid for by political campaigns. They hired the
equivalent of a private investigator, and then they laundered it.
Usually they take that and leak into the media. In
this case, they laundered it through our intelligence agency.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Correct.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
You had some of the highest level officials in our
intelligence agencies in the country taking that fake, ridiculous dossier
and using it to influence and inform an official intelligence
assessment of what happened in this campaign. The report that
we put out pointed to this, My statement at the
time pointed to this. And I think we've learned even more.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
About how hard.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
What we've learned over the last you know, with these
new revelations is how hard the FBI and some people,
not all, but some people at the CIA worked to
make that dossier a part of their intelligence assessment. It
is a huge outreach because it was fake. It was
a lie, and they used it to mislead the American public.
It costs millions of dollars in investigations, all chasing a hoax.

(17:42):
So that's the part they leave out because they're trying
to play cute with words, and the media is either
uninterested or too lazy to understand those nuances and that reality,
or too dumb.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
And I think uninterested, lazy, and dumb summarizes Joe Scarborough
quite nicely. Just a general lack of journalistic curiosity into
something that might be inconvenient for your side, you know,
the sort of thing that we are exercising in this
program about the Epstein files. Let sunlight be exposed to
them and come what may. That's how I feel about those.

(18:13):
But Scarborough's trying to runcover for all of those Intel heads, Brennan, Comy, Clapper,
McCabe who intentionally used a dirty dossier, fruit of the
Poisonous Tree, anything that came out of that Intel report
that included the Steele dossier, derived from faulty, fraudulent information,

(18:34):
and they knew it, but this gave them the green
light to continue this attack, this undermining on Donald Trump
to weaken his position once he assumed the presidency and
was sworn in from day one, and think about everything
that happened during that first year and everything that led
up to the Muller investigation. All of that was fraudulent

(18:57):
and based on a lie, perpetrated lie, a hoax by
Hillary Clinton's own campaign. Now we get word that the
DOJ has launched an investigation subpoenaed some people to come testify.
But I'm still in a mode of I'll believe it
when I see it, that Republican administration that the DOJ
will carry through on this and see it through to

(19:19):
the very end. Alicia Garcia boomstick Babe with a two
A update when we come back on Ryan Schuling Live. Okay,
a brief personal update in that i will be a
featured speaker and I'm so honored to have been asked
to do this at the Jeffco Kids First Gala coming

(19:39):
up Ban Morrison on Thursday night. Now, the reason I
bring that up is because of a text exchange I
had with Ashley Key keyfront.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
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Speaker 3 (19:48):
You'll remember her, and she said the following, Hey, I
think i'd like to give my tickets away for the gala,
and she goes on to say that she's going to
be there working. She might not have a lot of time.
She's helping with the event because again Ashley Key is
plugged in to jeff Co Kids First, the organization founded
and led by Lindsay Datko and so important for so

(20:09):
many reasons for parental rights in Colorado and to protect
our kids in Colorado from those who might prey upon them,
who might indoctrinate them. In a portion, a percentage of
every closing that Ashley Key makes, including yours, potentially, will
be donated to jeff Co Kids First. So if you
want to attend that gala, Ashley Key is offering up

(20:30):
her two passes, and she told me to give out
her phone number, so here it goes. If you want
to go, just text her and ask for those today.
Seven two oh five zero seven forty five thirty nine. Now,
I know it's in number, and it's the radio and
you can only hear it, and maybe you needed to
write that down and I read it too fast. I
take full responsibility for that. I'll read it two more

(20:50):
times seven to two. Oh, that's the easy part. Five
zero seven forty five thirty nine and simply texting Ashley
Key and saying you want to go to the FCO
Kids First Gala Morrison Thursday night to see me speak.
I bought a new suit, I went head to toe
and got new apparel just for this event.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Kelly.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
You'll tell you tanging our end up there behind me
and so I'm really looking forward to this. It's a
great cause, it's a great event. It will be a
great night. And Ashley Key is inviting you to two
of her passes seven to two oh five zero seven
forty five thirty nine. And in the meantime, if you're
looking at a move, if you want to sell your home,
if you're looking to buy your dream home, or anything
in between, please contact Ashley Key and check in online

(21:33):
at Keyfrontrangehomes dot com. That's k e y Front Range Homes,
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Speaker 1 (21:52):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
That song to mean only one one thing. Click click
boom means the boomstick.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Babe, And that's where you can find her all over
social media and that's Twitter, that's Facebook, that's Instagram. It's
anywhere you're looking for Second Amendment rights and the person
at the front lines defending those for us in Colorado,
and she's Alicia Garcia and she joins us here on
Ryan Shuling Love.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Alicia, welcome to it.

Speaker 9 (22:16):
Thank you, Ryan. I appreciate you. You always flatter me
when you play me my own things. Now I'm so cool.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Oh yeah, you're one of the few representative. Lauren Bolbert
would be another one. She is the warrior. Yeah by
scamming here and I are.

Speaker 9 (22:29):
The same size and height, but I'm a little bit
fighter than she is. That's met her a few times
and she's a really nice lady. We have a good
conversation about the second.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Then, Oh, I would thank you.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Guys are uniformly on the same page when it comes
to that. And you were just at the range, Alicia,
and tell the good people in our listening audience what
that was for what you're preparing for, it's pretty elite company.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
So I am headed to this month to qualify for
an instructor certification. Not only about eleven people in color
or in America right now are able to say that
they have. So I'm pretty excited about that. So I
actually split a playing card today seven yards each time
I put the playing card that I did it from

(23:14):
with the first shot. So I'm super high on life
right now. I feel like I'm pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
That sounds amazing.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
Now.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
The playing card was this part of like a David
Blaine trick where you knew what the card was and
you guessed it right for the person that put it
there or something like that.

Speaker 9 (23:27):
So what we do is you stick a post in
the ground and my teacher staypled the playing card sideways.
So I had to split the playing card sideways. So
it's not that easy to do. So I was pretty
impressed with myself that I did two playing cards each
time I shot it and hate it the first shot,
so I.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Now, no, you kind of buried the lead there.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
That's called sandbag a sideways playing card, but with a
plane card at least.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
See, that's phenomenal.

Speaker 9 (23:54):
It's so cool.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
You know.

Speaker 9 (23:56):
One of the things I really want to make sure
that I'm always you know, supporting to not only my students,
but to people. It is the importance of training. You know,
I can be out here, you know, I'm fighting for
the Second Amendment. I have an organization the second cyndicate
where we're actively fighting for the secondment. By the way,
everybody listening, please head to the second when it gets done,
come and donate because we are in need of your support.

(24:18):
So if you can donate five dollars to five thousand dollars,
it would really help us maintain the fight because we
have a big fight ahead of us. But you know,
I do all these things, but in my perspective, it
doesn't mean anything if I'm actively out there not able
to perform the tasks that I actually say that I
should be, you know, doing. So it's like, hey, everybody,
I go out in there and trained, but I need
to be able to leave by example and demonstrate what

(24:41):
it means to be someone dedicated to training and being
your own first responder. So it's a milestone moment for
me that I've come this far because when I first
started training, I was horrible. You know, it took me
a long time to understand how they come out of fulfillment,
get on target, proper turge, press, front till focus, rip stamps,
all those things. And now it's like, well, look how
far it's come. And do I think that I'm the greatest,

(25:02):
Absolutely not but am I getting there? Absolutely. So it's
a good thing to just be able to lead by
example and show people that it's okay to embrace the suck.
Not everybody's born, you know, right out the box. Being
the best shooter you have to work at it. And
I'm pretty thankful that I have an ex feteen that
I surround myself with that encourages me to be better.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Alicia Garcia Boomstick Babe on the socials and as she
just mentioned, very important the two nd syndicate dot com.
The second syndicate dot com with the number in there
for seconds, so two nd and you can find the website.
You can donate there to the cause that she talks about.
They have a Facebook page and they have a bi
weekly podcast on the YouTube that you could watch. Now,

(25:42):
before we get into the particulars of why I invited
you on, Alicia, this was a topic of conversation on
the Dan Kaplis Show yesterday, and that is if women
may be predisposed to be better shooters than men, what
say you.

Speaker 9 (25:57):
Far better at everything? In my perspective, feminists. You know,
I'm one of those people. You know, everybody always talks
to me and they're like, oh, are you a feminist.
I'm absolutely not a feminist. I do not believe in
eat quality of the sexes. I believe women are far
superior to men, so we do a lot of things
much better than they do it something. Now, do I
think we need men, Absolutely, I am a huge fan

(26:19):
of men. I think men are great. But when it
comes to shooting the women that I know, can you know,
knock these guys out the park?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
And there's a lot of anecdotal evidence to support this
between Alicia herself, my mom was a dead on shot
during her lifetime, and my dad was just a jaw
a gape at that.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
And then Dan was just talking about his wife Amy
doing the.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Same thing, absorbing the training, applying it practically and getting
the job done.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
That's what Alicia Garcia does. Now.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
The reason I invited her on I was just kind
of scanning through and I saw this from last week.
Gavin Newsom suffers another legal blow in two to one ruling.
Now this is by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals,
that is not generally a conservative court. Now, there were
three judges they rotate in by pay pannels here to
form this three judge panel that by a two to
one decision upheld an earlier judgment from a federal district court,

(27:07):
dealing a significant blow to the state's effort to regulate
gun related sales. And this was about ammunition, and one
of the lead judges who wrote the opinion said, the
right to keep in bear arms incorporates the right to
operate them, which requires ammunition. And the reason I think
this debtails into our conversation about Colorado, Elisi, I told
you this earlier is what happens in California. Eventually, and

(27:29):
usually not a long time later, comes to Colorado, or
tries to. We've seen that here in the form of
the gun grab Bill Senate Bill twenty five zero zero three.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
And yet there's another way that.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
They're trying to usurp our constitutional Second Amendment rights by
using hospitals medical centers. Take us through that, Elisi, you
wrote an article about it and what's going on here.

Speaker 9 (27:51):
So in regards to the ammunition that we were talking
about on this year, twenty twenty five, twenty final eleven
thirty three raise them in an aged purchase ammunition to
twenty one's or requires ammunition to be stored behind the
counter as well, gunshop shout out as part of the
fence with a favorite in Colorado is my partner in
the second cinnicket as well. And have you know ammunition

(28:12):
behind the counter locked and display cases because they say,
you know, there's such an issue of people being able
to access them, they don't want people filling it, which
we've never had an issue with that in the industry.
There is no Browns for that, There is no historical
residence for that. These people are just pulling stuff, you know,
out of their behind because of course they want to
attack this industry from all angles. And then you know,

(28:34):
it's a way for them to watch sounds.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Like when maybe you lost or hearing a player back
on hold here, maybe reconnect there and taking your tax
at five seven seven, three nine. And one of the
things about the California case that go and try and
call against Okay, Kelly's got that's real lifetime radio.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
By the way, so this is not in the can
as you might imagine, Alicia, by all means, please pick
up where you left off.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
Okay, I don't know what you in heard, but so
what's going on is we have the restrictions on who's
able to purchase ammunition, right, so that's right. We don't
like that because the Regional Minimal Aids to Purchase twenty
to twenty one, which automatically discontinues the use of ammunition
purchases for people that are fighting for our rights. So

(29:20):
you can, you know, sign up to go fight for
our country. You can get married, you can get a
loan from the government to go into debt. But hey,
guess what God forbid, you'll be able to practice with
those tools or afford a way to purchase you know,
that ammunition to be able to train. Now, another thing
that happened is back in twenty twenty one paulot On

(29:42):
twelve ninety nine, which created the Office of Mention under
the Colorado Department of Public Health and Invironment here in Colorado.
That cost Colorado's three million dollars just to develop that office.
In the first two years of that office being developed,
they did a study to see how many quote unquote
one deaths were as a result from you know, guns

(30:05):
in Colorado, and seventy percent one year, seventy three percent
the next year were due to self harm, so suicide.
So they're using these numbers to inflate the guns are
a problem. Guns are the issues. Okay. So what they're
doing is saying, Okay, this is a mental health issue.
Let's go ahead and use Office of Prevention through other
organizations like the organization called I think it's Let's Talk

(30:29):
Guns Colorado, which is a public health and sortical weaponization
of the Office of Gun Violence Prevention. So it's a
bureaucratic backbone to create a narrative that they're forcing the
narrative and creating information to groom and train medical professionals.
So doctors, nurses, people that you're speaking to when you
go to the doctor's office, how they can look at you,

(30:52):
scrutinize you and possibly red flag you as a gun
owner to have your uh basically your due process by
and they compiscate your firearms and ammunition your issue to
court gate and now it's up to you, the respondent,
to prove to the state that indeed you're worthy of
getting your firearms.

Speaker 8 (31:09):
Mack.

Speaker 9 (31:10):
If that isn't terrifying, I don't know what is. So,
if you guys are familiar with what red flag laws
they started in twenty nineteen and they've just snowballed every year,
including the year of twenty twenty five. This legislative session
where they now pass a self red flag law. So
the way red flag laws work is a petitioner feels
that it's worn ostpagated alleging that you are a danger

(31:32):
to either yourself or someone else. The people who can
do that is doctors and nurses, medical and mental health professionals,
school administrators and educators, district attorneys, houses, people you live with,
and now even yourself. So here's a petition is filed
within seventy two hours, a judgment use it and can

(31:53):
issue an X part temporary emergency red flag right so
ballot up to fourteen days, law enforcement comes to you.
They confiscate your firearms and ammunition, and that is good
for fourteen days, and you are immediately ordered to surrender
your firearms and your canteled carry permit is revoked. Within
the fourteen days, is hearing get held where you must

(32:15):
prove you are not a threat to yourself for others.
If a judge isn't convinced, a final emergency red flag
position order is issued for over three hundred and sixty
five days, and they keep your property, so the first
time that that court date is held, you are not
aware of it. So it's held without your knowledge, without
your presence, So then it's to you to prove to

(32:35):
the court, hey I'm a good guy. I'm not a
bad person. But the bad part of that is it's
not even just their bypassing the due process, and they're
complicating your property. There's no precursor to the person you
were before the hearing, so there's no standard to uphold
you to, so they can say, hey, this person's crazy.
Hey this person is a bad person, and now it's
up to you to prove that you're not so. Sporting

(32:58):
contradicts the Supreme Court rule here in twenty twenty one,
which helps the concerns related to mental health and civic
situations can't be used to justify the warrantless seizure of firearms.
And yet they're doing that. So if we look at
this objectively, not only is this wreating your right to
do process, they're seizing your firearms, but what they're also
doing is they're implementing the compensation of your firearms, and

(33:21):
they have no duty to give them back to you,
especially after twenty twenty six August. First, if in fact
S twenty five zero zero three is now lost, So
who to say that when they confiscate those firearms, that
those firearms are going to be deemed quote unquote illegal.
And now, because we have Civil Act and wortheture here
in the sea, they're not required to give those those

(33:43):
you know belongings back to you. They're literally using state funded,
you know, taxpayer funds to grow your mental and physical
doctors to red flag you and you know, get you
involved in a court case with the state to complicate
your guns and treat you like you are a bad person,

(34:05):
all based on if you own our arms or not.
So now are you sposed to even want to talk
or share anything with your doctors because you're going to
be in fear of them.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Re's lightning you.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah, this goes to completely eviscerating the presumption of innocence
not guilty is the presumed state for any plaintiff due
process to Alicia's point, and you are innocent until proven guilty.
But here they flip that on its head. You're crazy.
Now prove that you're not do a dance for us. No,
that's not how it works in American under our constitutional rights.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
She's Alisia Garcia.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
You can read more about it from clinic to confiscation,
Colorado's blueprint for civil rights abuse. I'll have a link
to that article in our podcast post. You can find
that at Ryan Shuling Live on your favorite podcast platform. Alicia,
thanks as always for your time. Great shooting today.

Speaker 9 (34:54):
Hey, thank you so much. And all these articles that
I write every month are also available on our website
that I contindicate you could check those out at any time.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, V two n D syndicate dot com a time out.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
We're back. I've been car shamed on the text line.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Probably buy a coastal liberal elite who pretends to care
about the little people, But no, this jackass does not.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I'm Ryan Chrulan Live.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Well, apparently not me. My car does not fit the
bill according to this one texter, And you can send
yours in.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
At five seven seven three nine, I was talking.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
About how I had gotten a new suit going out
and done that at tanging right behind me and Gully's
taking a look and she approves because it a tacit
thumbs up. But then this texture decided to get in
on the action and said, did you buy a new
car too? Or the focus still showing up in style
suit in the focus? Yeah, Texters, sorry, sorry, my car doesn't.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Meet your standard for what a good car is. See.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
I have only driven American in my life, and that's
not unique to those of us from Michigan.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
We're very provincial.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
We're very proud of the Detroit autoworkers and I support them.
What has been this switch of the coastal liberal elite
snobs like this person? I got to watch my language here,
and you're looking down your nose at people for what
they drive.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Who are you?

Speaker 3 (36:26):
What happened to the blue collar work ethic of the
rust belt that drove the Democratic Party through labor unions
for all those years? You're just abandoning those people because
they're beneath you. You're gonna win elections based on the
fact you're gonna go totally to the margins here. You're
gonna go coastal liberal elite signs in new Yard, no
human is illegal.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Oh but I don't want them to live here. I
don't want that help here. I mean, don't do that
to me. I didn't mean me here.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
So you want the very poor, the very illegal aliens
here to represent you and to be counted in the
census for electoral votes and seats in the House to
Jerryman like you have in Illinois, and then the vast
unwashed masses in flyover country. You don't want them. Look
what just happened in the last election. Keep going down
this road and you're gonna experience more of the same

(37:11):
in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight
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