December 11, 2024 • 34 mins
First, Rep. Lauren Boebert (R, CO-3) joins Ryan to discuss her 'zip code bill,' which just passed through the U.S. House and will be sent to the U.S. Senate for a vote there.
This bipartisan bill benefits communities throughout the country by requiring the Postal Service to formally designate unique zip codes within their system for 51 specific cities and towns including the Colorado communities of Silver Cliff, Lone Tree, Castle Pines, Centennial, Severance, Greenwood Village, and Superior.
Representative Lauren Boebert
Then, President & CEO of the Colorado Oil & Gas Association Dan Haley joins Ryan Schuiling Live to talk about Colorado's energy policies and how they're hurting the economy of the Centennial State.
This bipartisan bill benefits communities throughout the country by requiring the Postal Service to formally designate unique zip codes within their system for 51 specific cities and towns including the Colorado communities of Silver Cliff, Lone Tree, Castle Pines, Centennial, Severance, Greenwood Village, and Superior.
Representative Lauren Boebert
Then, President & CEO of the Colorado Oil & Gas Association Dan Haley joins Ryan Schuiling Live to talk about Colorado's energy policies and how they're hurting the economy of the Centennial State.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It shouldn't be that way. It wasn't supposed to be
that way. We were supposed to be on a steady,
if difficult, sometimes marched towards progress.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And Yep, just a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Ago, the United States voted for a second time to
not elect its first woman president. Everywhere, women's rights and
women's progress is under attack, overtly and subtlely. But I
want you to know that I am and always will
be a proud feminist.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
He will always have.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
An ally in me and in my government.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh my god, these are the beta cucks that are
getting booted out, and includes Justin Trudeau, current Prime Minister
Canada back here and Ryan Schuling live. Let me tell
you where this is going to go. Justin, You're going
to go bye bye. Pierre Poaliev is going to be
the next Prime Minister of Canada. The Conservatives are going
to sweep out the Liberals to our north. We'll finally
have a partner in Canada that we haven't had over
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these last many years that you have disgraced the office.
And Donald Trump, it was just announced CNN Reporting will
be named Times Person of the Year. This choice will
be revealed on Thursday, recognizing the President elect. It says
here as the individual or group deemed to have wielded
the greatest influence on global affairs quote for good or
(01:19):
for ill. And to celebrate the unveiling of the magazine cover,
dj T will ring the opening bell the New York
Stock Exchange. A source familiar with the matter told ce
and and John Fabercactory is still with us in studio. John,
your reaction to any of that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I'm doing my Trump dance right here next year. If
we were on camera right now, people could see this
because you know, this is this is this is great
because you know it really does kind of put you know,
the exclamation point on on Trump getting elected, and you
know it's deservedly so all he went through, you know,
the last two years, even even longer, this whole administration.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Uh good, good on him. The Trump Time Magazine Person
of the Year. Kelly, your reaction, love it? Waiting for it.
I want to see the photo. Yeah, that's going to
be good.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I want to see what Time is going to do
with it, because they haven't been the kindest to him
in the past.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Now they had that melting orange head with his screaming
face and cartoon forma believe I remember that one.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
So we'll see if they go a little bit classier.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah yeah, let's not hold.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Our brother Yeah yeah uh text line five seven seven
three nine blowing up. Let's go there now, Ryan, ask
John if it is legal to hire local police as
contractors to help with deportation.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
No.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I don't think we can get into a contract with them.
And the reason why I'm saying no on that is
because of twenty three Dash eleven hundred, which kept ICE
out of being able to be contracted for detention with
local law enforcement. So it's it's my thought that they
would probably try to use that to keep law enforcement
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from working with ICE. Already, they took away the two
eighty seven G program away, which we were using to
actually have police officers help us. Teller County was one
of the last counties that was under our two eighty
seven G program. So unless we got some changes here
in this state, I don't believe that we'd be able
to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Alexa has the following. Ryan.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I hope Tom Holman puts John somewhere on his team. Now, John,
you and I have discussed this. Nobody knows the situation
on the ground in Aurora with Trenda a rod with
better than you do, and you've done the shoe leather
work out there and figuring out what's going on. Has
anybody from the administration, Tom Homan or anybody else been
in contact with you.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I can't discuss that on air, but let's just you know,
let's just I will come on here first. Let's just
let's just put it. You will be the guy I
tell first when when something.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Happened, I'm going to hold you do that. You will
be the guy.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
A lot of texts about Comrade Kyle Alexas saying are
we going to get a play by play for your
duel with Comrade Kyle? Well, it was more like I said,
a tag team wrestling match, and it was very dramatic
with John Fabrigatory coming down the and jumping off the
top rope.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
The other part of this, Kyle's one thing.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But Chris Vanderveen jumping into this whole argument and it
wasn't when I posted yesterday. It was before you and
he had.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Him back and forth. What was his contention through all this?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I know Chris has a little something against me because
of the whole issue with the Emergency Management Company, the
Red Banion that had reached out to me, you know,
with asking me to be the one to talk about
the tender rau problem in the apartment complex. And I
took no money from that. I did not use my
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consulting firm for that. But the only reason that I
wanted to be able to talk about it, because I
knew what was going on. I'd been in the apartment complex,
is I've been in law enforcement. I thought I was
the right person to talk about it. And apparently nine
News didn't think I was because they never.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Talked to me. Why wouldn't they talk to you?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Because I know what's going on, And I don't think
that there's a lot of pushback that they can do
with me. I mean, other news stations have had me on.
I've done plenty of media about the situation. I've been
on Doctor Phil, I've been you know, a New York
Post dozens and dozens of times. In fact, I'm in
the New York Times today, you know, I don't I
just think that I didn't fit in the narrative that
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they wanted. They'd rather have the NGOs on there pushing
a different narrative and.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Kyle Clark front center in that entire endeavor. There's several
texts in a row here, I believe from the same texter.
And I'll explore this a little bit with you. Ask
Kyle for access to all his broadcast archives. It's in there.
Or turn the tables on Kyle. He's implying making a
claim that he did report on it. Ask him for
his proof explaining yes, if he's claiming he reported on
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the trendy arragua in a fair and balance way, he
should provide the evidence of that. Otherwise, I'm sure in
his broadcast archives there are several examples of him smugly
downplaying TDA in Aurora and or sarcastically challenging the credibility
of those claiming reporting on TDA presence and activities.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Boom nailed it.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, and that's the truth right there. And look, I
think Kyle's listening right now. He probably is, uh, And
I just want to put this out there. It would
be very hard to pin Kyle down saying he did
not believe it was happening, because Kyle knows what he's
doing when.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
He when he's on air. I mean, he's a professional,
you know.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Bottom line, we can all dislike the guy, but but
he knows, he knows what he's doing. And you know,
it would be very hard to pin him down to
an exact thing where he's saying it's not happening. But
the way he frames his stories, the way the story
is put out there, you cannot say that.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You the listeners that are listening right now that when.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
You watch nine News you don't feel like he is
gunning for conservatives over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You just you you can't say that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And I think Kyle knows it's true, and he plays
the game, but uh, you know, every now and then
he comes out with something good that I'll that I'll
agree with him on, and I'm like, well, he's you know,
maybe he's going after Jena today or maybe maybe he'll
do something like that. Yeah, every now and then he
does come down and go to the other side. But
you know, with this Trender Ragwa thing, I just think
that they were on the wrong side of this.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And you know, that's that's my opinion on that.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I just don't understand journalistically sticking out that ground when
you don't know and you don't know what you don't know,
and I try to keep an open mind, and the
way I reported on.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
This was John. You came to me and I talked
to you.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
We had conversations off the air, then we had conversations
on the air. I reached out to Cindy Rameril. I
wanted to hear her story much the same way that
Vincenti Arenas did for Fox thirty one. He did and
he did his job.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, yeah with her, Just do your job.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But I know that Kyle Clark has a racket where
he appeals to this broad swath of liberal viewers in
the Denver Boulder corridor.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He gets great ratings. I'm sure number one in the market.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
He gets invited all the cool parties and gets to
hang with all the cool people, and said that he
took all the right sides and.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
All these issues. He's got a nice life carved out
for himself. Yeah, look that.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You know, when we talk about wrestling, you know, there
are heels and faces, and Kyle Clark is the heel,
and he does a good job of it. He markets
himself well well you know, but at the end of
the day, just just like just like you said, you
didn't even know me when we started talking about this.
I mean, I was running. I was running for Congress.
You and I had not met. You asked me to
come on. We started talking about this and you you,
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you did your due diligence. You you reached out to
me multiple times, asking you questions to make sure that
you felt comfortable putting this over on the air. And
what I was saying, you know, so they didn't do it,
and they're behind the eight ball.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Now, definitely John Fabricatory with me in studio, and we
turned now to another target, often of the aforementioned Kyle Clark.
Comrade Kyle as he's known in this program. She joins
us now in Ryan Schuling Live. Representative Lauren Bobert, Welcome back, Hello.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Brian, and hello to John Fabricutory. You know, I certainly
hope that there's a room in the administration for him
to do some good border security work there because we
all need it. We need all hands on deck in
this in this effort to close the border and especially
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to port criminal aliens and then those who just fought
off broke our law and entered our country illegally.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Thank you, Congressman. I really appreciate you, I really do.
You were amazing during my campaign. I can never thank
you enough. And you know, very very glad to have
been able to work with you.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
It was an honor.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
And you know now I just hope Jason Crowe doesn't
run for governor.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, and Lauren, right out of the gate, we'll get
to the zip code bill that you were able to
help get through the House just in a moment, but
just to comment on the topic at hand here. And
it's been hot and heavy on X and I've been
taking incoming from Kyle Clark and you know the whole
song and dance that he does on behalf of the Left.
But this report out of CBS four here in Colorado,
three suspects charged in Colorado in connection with rolling gunfight
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of at least six people in Aurora. We know that
they're from Venezuela, that was not mentioned in the story.
And San Diego just declaring themselves a super sanctuary county.
As Tom Holman borders ZAR and I is get prepared
to execute these deportations in a Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
What is your approach? What is your response to this resistance?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Well, first of all, it's unfortunate but not surprising that
we are experiencing this crime. This is something that we
discussed when Joe Biden opened our southern border with a
stroke of a pen on January twentieth, twenty twenty one,
and just the something that we've been fighting against for
nearly four years now. And it's also not surprising that
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CBS is not going to announce that these thugs are
from Venezuela. You know, we certainly aren't saying that all
Venezuelans are bad people, but there's certainly criminals who are
coming into our country from countries like Venezuela. I think
there's close to one hundred and seventy countries that people
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have fled from and came here with either with criminal
intent or or or something else. But either way, it's
the taxpayers who are funding this. And now with all
of the cities and counties that are really just really
standing strong with their sanctuary status and wanting to make
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that bulletproof, well it ain't going to happen, and we
aren't going to fund sanctuary cities, counties, states any further.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
This is something that President Trump has promised. I'm so
excited that Tom Homan is the borders are, He's not
ashamed of that title like.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
The previous borders are, and he is going to enforce
the rule of law, the laws that we have on
the books, and we will have a chief executive who
will who will be sure that he is enforcing that as.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Well and giving that authority to those who are in
his cabinet and in these positions to make our country
safe again. I'm excited that Tom Holman came to Colorado.
He came to Aurora with John Fabrogatory and I and
Congressmanship Roy from Texas. He came there to see it
for himself and to express what was done successfully in
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the past, where the Biden administration has failed America, and
what we can do in the future to resolve this.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Congresswoman Lauren Bolbert joining us, and I want to follow
up on something you said, because I think there in
lies the solution, Lauren, which is we've seen both Mayor
Eric Adams and Governor Kathy Hulkill say, hey, if they
are criminal aliens here, we will work with ICE to
help deport them. But we've seen quite a different tune
from Brandon Johnson, Chicago Mayor JB. Pritzker, Illinois Governor right here,
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Denver Mayor Mike Johnston, Governor Jared Poulis, and of course
throughout California under Governor Gavin Newsom. But it's the purse strings, right,
it's the federal funding that could be the cudgel here, Donald,
try us talk about that. Would that have to be
through an appropriations bill in Congress though, with Speaker Mike Johnson, yourself,
other Republicans working on this, and do you think that
would get through to cut federal funding to these sanctuary
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cities and states?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Yes, Well, according to the Constitution, all spending bills originate
in the House of Representatives. We have the power of
the purse and we need to tighten those purse strings
now I can. I can tell you those purse strings
are still pretty loose in this lame duck session and
it's not something that I'm happy about.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
You know, we just passed the NDAA.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
There was some great things for our military service members
that were in it. I've I you know, have I've
voted for ndaa's in the past, and I voted for
this one. But the spending in it is out of control.
And you know, I've even asked the Speaker myself, you know,
can we just pretend like we don't have any more
money to spend? We don't, and you know, now we're
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looking at CRS and one hundred billion dollars disaster release.
We know we need to that relief for those who
are hit by hurricanes. But also in this bill there's
somewhere around forty states that are being proposed to receive
funding as well and disaster relief. Forty states in America,
we're not hit by hurricanes, So we have got to
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tighten our spending overall. And I absolutely think we should
target the sanctuary states because I promise you those are
the states who are asking for the most federal dollars
and not money is not free money. We cannot continue
deficit spending. This money comes from hard working Americans, from
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their tax dollars, and we need to be good stewards
of those tax dollars. I'm grateful for Elon Musk and
Vivek Ramaswamis and their DOGE Commission, the Department of Government Efficiency.
Now I love and I'm a little annoyed with this
commission because this commission was created to oversee the the
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entire federal government, all of the agencies, all of the programs,
all of the employees, every dollar that is spent in
the federal government. And now that annoys me because we
used to call that Congress, but now we need.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
A special commission.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
To oversee it.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
And even in the House of Representatives, when Elon and
Vivek came in and spoke with us, I saw my
fellow colleagues who have been approving this nonsense, these unauthorized programs,
the reckless spending, go to the microphone and complain about
areas where there's waste, fraud, and abuse. Yet they're the
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ones who are approving it on a regular basis. So
they're basically standing at the microphones and saying, save us
from ourselves. So Congress has to get in line with
that DOGE Commission to really have accountability and to tighten
those purse strings. But hopefully the border is our number
one focus right out the gate. I want President Trump
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to have a bill ready to sign on January twentieth.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Representative Lauren Bolbert having just gotten through a bipartisan zip
code bill today. I know you were criticized, and I
think wrongly. First, she never passes a bill, she never
sponsors a bill. Well, here's one right here that got
through with bipartisan support through the House and now goes
to the Senate.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Lourd. Why was this important and why was it important
to you?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Yes, well, it's not my first bill that I have
passed and had signed into law, and certainly there's been
a lot of legislative victories that have been signed into law,
but this bill is my most favorite piece of legislation.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That I have ever worked on.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
And I hope everyone listening has an opportunity to be
as passionate about something as I have been about this
zip code bill.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
So this bill, it.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Causes the United States Postal Service to recognize unique zip
codes for communities who do not have one that's recognized
for home deliveries, and they share zip codes with neighboring
cities and towns. Now, this impacts a lot of cities
with tax revenues. Those cities who collect tax revenues often
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have to send them over to the next city that
has the zip code that they're labeled with. So, for instance,
the city of Loan Tree, they lose about five million
dollars in tax revenue every year through Littleton, and now
with this bill they will be able to have their
own zip code and keep those taxes they are already
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collecting from those who are buying goods in Loan Tree
and have more economic development there in Loan Tree. My
bill included fifty one cities communities all throughout America. It
was bipartisan, with a lot of work to get this
in committee, through committee, past committee, not unanimously, and now
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today it passed the House unanimously. I think my new
pronouns are by partisan thanks without compromising. My principle still
one observative. This is what ultra vaga looks like.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Love it.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
I'm very excited that this bill has passed, and I'm
grateful that now hold on to your chair. I'm so
grateful for Senator Michael Bennett who is helping me in
the Senate with this bill. He and his staff have
been great to work with on this issue, and they
are working hard to ensure that this bill comes up
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in the Senate next week so we can get it
signed into law quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Representative Lauren Bobert, that zip code bill, keep your eye
on it. Even help from Senator Michael Bennett. How about that?
And it affects one of the municipalities that I live in,
which is Greenwood Village. So Lauren, thank you as always
for your hard work. Thank you for your time today.
And I'll definitely see you at the inaugura, if not before.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Absolutely i'll see you then. And John Fabrigatory, thanks for
seeing in the fight. I'm glad that you're on with
Brian today and hope to be back in Colorado soon
with y'all.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Back here on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
My thanks to John FABRICATORI for joining me live in studio.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Always a good time with him.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And for Representative Lauren Bobert joining us in the previous segment.
We're on a roll here, so we're going to continue
with the soon to be outgoing president and CEO of
the Colorado Oil and Gas Association. You can follow him
on x at Dan Haley CEO. We know and this
is one of my favorite picks for Secretary of the Interior.
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I had Burgamania. You guys know this what loved him
as a vice presidential nominee. Doug Bergham, Governor North Dakota.
He is going to be the Secretary of the Interior,
and it was announced just within the last couple of
weeks that Chris Wright will be his pick for Secretary
of Energy. Might our next guest be somewhere in the
mix in a Trump administration let's ask him right now.
Dan Haley joins us on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Dan, welcome back, Thanks for having me Ryan getting talk
to yet.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Now, I just got to say the timing of your
departure and it's a little bit sad for me because
I always enjoyed our conversations over the years. Is head
of COGA here you are? You got some time on
your hands? Are you going to join the Trump administration
and an energy capacity h Let me.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Start by saying, I too have enjoyed our conversations. Thank
you for having us on, Thank you for caring very
much about our industry in Colorado. And then the second
part of that is I will not be joining the
Trump administration, but I'm glad you thought of me in
that light. Chris Wright is going to be a fantastic
ambassador for all energy sources in our country and really
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we'll be able to get that American energy dominance unleashed.
And we are so proud of him and we're so
excited for what he's going to bring to Washington.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Dan Haley joining us talking about energy and right here
in Colorado, it is our chief industry here at employees,
so many people provide so much revenue for this state.
And I got to say, in spot height of current
state leadership, we've seen that throttle, We've seen permits delayed. Dan,
You've had to have the headaches of navigating all of this.
What changes in a Trump administration Day one on January twenty,
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twenty twenty five for your industry.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Yeah, there's a few things that will happen at the
federal level. I think it will take a while to
see that impact in Colorado because so much of the
work that's being done here is done on private lands
and we have to adhere to all those state policies.
But the first thing you'll see is an administration that
doesn't demonize the oil and gas industry at every chance
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that it gets, and that actually wants to see this
industry succeed and be successful in this country. So that's
hugely important. One of the first couple things that the
administration can do that will have a positive impact on Colorado.
One is to get rid of this short sighted pause
on liquefied natural gas export permits that the Biden administration
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implemented a year ago. That needs to go away. Once
you open up markets for natural gas, there will be
more Obviously very simply more of a need for natural gas,
and we are producing it here in Colorado. We're the
eighth largest natural gas producer in the country. The other
thing they can do is have some lease sales. What
happens in this industry is we have oil and gas
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leases on federal lands, and by law, they should have
quarterly sales where companies can go in and get those
leases and produce that oil and gas on federal lands.
Since the Biden administration took over, there has been only
one lease sale in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It was very.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Small acreage up in Well County. Most of the federal
lands where we want to develop this resource are on
the western slope in the Peon space. So once we
start seeing those quarterly lease sales happen again, that will
be a good thing for energy production in this country
and will benefit the country and the state.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Dan Haley, he's the president and CEO of COGA Colorado
Oil and Gas Association, joining us here on Ryan Schuling Live.
We just saw this from the Denver Post, and Dan,
I imagine you saw it as well, that Colorado's economic growth
measured by State GDP, went from fifth best in the
nation over the prior fifteen years to forty first this year.
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How much of a correlation do you believe there is
with the energy industry? And like you said, there are
so many in leadership right now, whether it be the
General Assembly or the Governor's office itself, that are hostile
to the energy industry here.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah, I think what you're seeing, Ryan is is that
Denver Post story and that economics lagging. Economic indicators are
more representative not just of what has happened to our industry,
but to all industries in this state. There was a
study that came out yesterday and it was really kind
of amazing. It came out on the exact same day
that this Denver Post story came out, or the economic study,
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and it looked at regulations in Colorado. The Colorado Chamber
did the study. I would advise you to take a
look at it, talk about it with your listeners. It's
super interesting and it shows that the Colorado regulations are
among the highest in the country. We are on pace
this at the end of this year to be sixth
in the country in terms of the amount of regulations
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that we have in this state. And I'll just if
you don't mind that can go through a couple of
things quickly, pipeline translation, which relates definitely to our industry,
but also personal services, which is this is becoming a
very service oriented economy, tech rumors, things like that, chemical
manufacturing also at least fifty percent growth in the number
of regulations governing those sectors in.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
A four year period.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
This four year period corresponds with when Democrats took over
all control of state government and Governor Polis became governor
in twenty nineteen, and so you're just seeing these massive
amounts of regulations that are impacting all industries, not just
our industry in Colorado, but the Colorado has the highest
number of regulations related to the environment, fifty three thousand,
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five hundred and fifty rules versus the national average of
thirty thousand, which I found just and then I'll give
you one more quick one. The study also found that
forty five percent of Colorado's regulations are duplicative, redundant, or excessive,
beyond the level of most states. So it shows there's
room to actually roll back these regulations without hurting public
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health and safety. And that's key in our industry. We
want to protect public health, we want to protect the wildlife,
We want to protect the environment. But when you've got
these massive rule changes that are happening throughout the year,
every single year, it begins to have an impact on
all of those things that we care about when it
comes to jobs in the economy.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Dan Healy, the president's CEO of COGA Colorado Oil and
Gas Association, joining us here Ryan Shulink Live. We mentioned
before the predecessor to Governor Jared Poulis, John hicken Luffer
is now a Senator, who drank flat fracking fluid. At
one point, it was promoting the use of it to
drill down for natural gas here in the state of
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Colorado that would bolster our economy here. And yet suddenly,
as you mentioned, Dan, there was a turn specifically from
the left and from Democrats in power against the energy
industry on behalf of climate activists and at hamstrung. Not
only are Colorado economy, but nationally as well, and especially
since Joe Biden took over as president. He shut down
the drilling in anwar, he red lighted the Keystone XL pipeline.
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We have to imagine those two things will be green
lighted once again. Drill baby drill under a President Trump.
But the fact of the matter is we're not ready
for a transition fully to green energy, solar and wind power,
or even nuclear power at this point. We don't have
the infrastructure for that, So we're going to have to
get oil and natural gas from somewhere, and that would
be dirtier to get it from Venezuela, from Iran, from China,
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from Russia. But with the election of Donald Trump, we
just saw that the EU is going to start buying
American natural gas again. So there appears to be a
turn here. But why is it, do you think? Because,
like you said, you were committed to environmentally friendly exploration
for energy here in the state of Colorado. Why won't
Democrats work with you on that and loosen regulations so
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you can do more of it.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yeah, it's super frustrating, and I think you keyed in
on something really important that the governor has actually said,
and it was listed in his greenhouse Gas road map.
It's way towards the back of it, but you can
find it, and it said that his administration does not
support a ban on this industry because if you did
ban it here in Colorado, we would end up, excuse me,
importing this resource from other states. And other countries that
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don't have the same environmental standards that we have here
in Colorado. So it's really frustrating when you look at
this idea. You're absolutely right, we're not transitioning to anything overnight.
The only thing, well we might transition to is foreign energy,
and that's not what we want to do. So there
is not a grid system that allows for all renewables
at this point. There is no replacement product for what
we can create with oil and natural gas for all
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the things that we need in our daily lives. So
we need this resource, we believe we should be producing
it here in Colorado, and we really hope we can
get to some more reasonable lawmakers for them to understand
the impact that all these rules are having on what's
happening out in the field and the need for this
resource so we can produce it here.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
In this country.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
So we're excited there's a new administration coming in and again,
like I said at the very beginning, just the rhetoric
that comes out of the White House means something. It
has an impact on markets. People will understand we're going
to develop this resource in this country under the cleanest
standards in the world, and that will change greatly on
January twentieth. And that's a good thing not just for
this industry, but it's a good thing for Colorado. It's
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a good thing for parks, recreation centers, libraries, hospitals, all
these things that our tax dollars go to.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Every year.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Our industry pays two billion dollars in stay in local
taxes in Colorado. If we're going to go, those taxes
go away, and that impact we felt in communities where
we live, in work, and so it's really important that
we continue to produce this resource in Colorado under these
really tough standards. And I think what you're going to
see is a restoration of some sanity into our energy
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policy in this country. Two thirds of Americans, and this
track in Colorado Americans want and support that responsible energy
production in this country.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Dan, final question, and that is what happens in January.
As you hand the baton off to Lynn Granger as
the new president and CEO of KOGA.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Why are you leaving? Why now? And what's next for you?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, I'm working on what's next for me right now.
It really Ryan became. You know, I've been in this
job for more than nine years. We have had more
than thirty rule makings in that time, and it really
is a taxing position to be in. It's really I
looked at this as time for fresh eyes, new energy
to come in. I care so much about this industry.
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I care so much about this association that you kind
of know when it's time to have somebody else come
in and take the reins. And Lynn is going to
be a fantastic person to do that. She has experience
very similar to this. She ran Api Colorado, she knows
the legislature, she's been in the fight, and we're excited
to get her here and started well.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I look forward to conversations with Lynn Granger, and I
look forward to continuing conversations with you, Dan, no matter
where it leads.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And maybe it will lead to the Trump administration. You
never know, you never know.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Thank someone, all right.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Dan Haley joining us from COGA, and again I've really
enjoyed our conversations over the last several years. You can
follow him on exit Dan Haley COO a timeout, We're back.
Based Fetterman would come back to close out the show
on Ryan Schuling Live and now Everybody's Favorite Democratic Congress
(30:30):
with another edition of Based Fetterman. He's the ass that's
going to die in prison. Congratulations. If you want to
celebrate that a sewer is going to sewer. That's what
social media is about this, and I don't know why
the media wants to turn that into a story. Just
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with these trolls saying these kinds of things anonymously like that,
I don't know why that's news. Remember, he has two
children that are going to grow up without their father.
It's vile if you've gunned someone down that you don't
happen to agree with their views or the business that
they're in. Hey, you know, I'm next, there, next, he's next,
She's next. Senator John Fetterman. I had to do my
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best Morgan Freeman impastination there with the voiceover because I
saw that quote and it was such a money quote
from Senator John Fetterman. And We're gonna have a lot
of these over the next few years. I'm looking forward
to them. There's nobody in Congress I think i'd rather
hang out with have a beer with than John Fetterman.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Just such a good dude, straight shooter, and I like that.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
You know, I don't agree with him on a majority
of things, but I agree with his based takes like
that one. I couldn't find video or audio of that anywhere.
It was reported by NBC, and that was John Fetterman's
take on this kind of love affair. It's very creepy
and strange and weird and gross. That's the media. Jake
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Tapper Jimmy Kimmel's staff will talk about more of that
with Christian Toto on Friday on the Right Side of
Hollywood Is.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
He joined during the two o'clock hour.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
But Kelly, you gotta like what John Fetterman had to
say there about Luigi men GIONI. I mean, does it
matter that Luigi is attractive? And do you find him
physically attractive personally?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
No, don't know why not? Well, you know he did murder.
She's a murderer. There's that.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
So we got to have like a couple of screws
loose top.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Kaylie, you know, I'm did you ask your daughter?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I have not.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
I didn't even know if she She's on like big
time studying for finals this week. You can't be distracting,
so you know, she probably doesn't even know about it.
I mean, she probably has heard of it, but she's
not you know, looking at it and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Not her style. Here's Jumy Kimmel just to taste what
you're here on Friday, we.
Speaker 9 (32:44):
Definitely know who wins time Sexiest alleged murderer of the Year.
That would go to Luigi Mangioni, the suspect in the
shooting of the CEO of United Healthcare, who has become
the hottest cold blooded killer in America. I'm not sure
what this says about us whatever, Since these photos of
him came out from his holding cell, from his mugshot,
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someone found his abs somewhere online. Ryan Murphy right now
is flying and Netflix headquarters in a jetpack. So many
women and so many men are going nuts over how
good looking this killer is. And there's a huge wave
of horny washing over us. Like it's like when one
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of the guys you work with says he I had
a dream about you last night. When it's the FedEx
guy with the big muscles and the rolled up sleeves,
you're like, oh, But if it's the bald it guy
wearing a crocs with black socks you're on the phone
with HR, it's kind that same dynamic.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I mean, I want to be a prude here, Kelly,
But are we right to have some fun with this,
this guy that just killed an innocent man.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
No, okay, I think that's very, very poor taste. And
I do want to add I think that the money
aspect may have a little bit to do with it,
and that he led this kind of exotic life where
he lived in Hawaii for six surfers and he got
hurt surfing, and that's how this whole thing kind of metastasized.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It could work for it. Yeah, nicely done, and we'll
talk more about that with Christian Toto. Straight ahead.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
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and and John Fabercactory is still with us in studio. John,
your reaction to any of that.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I'm doing my Trump dance right here next year. If
we were on camera right now, people could see this
because you know, this is this is this is great
because you know it really does kind of put you know,
the exclamation point on on Trump getting elected, and you
know it's deservedly so all he went through, you know,
the last two years, even even longer, this whole administration.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Uh good, good on him. The Trump Time Magazine Person
of the Year. Kelly, your reaction, love it? Waiting for it.
I want to see the photo. Yeah, that's going to
be good.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I want to see what Time is going to do
with it, because they haven't been the kindest to him
in the past.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Now they had that melting orange head with his screaming
face and cartoon forma believe I remember that one.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
So we'll see if they go a little bit classier.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah yeah, let's not hold.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Our brother Yeah yeah uh text line five seven seven
three nine blowing up. Let's go there now, Ryan, ask
John if it is legal to hire local police as
contractors to help with deportation.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
No.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I don't think we can get into a contract with them.
And the reason why I'm saying no on that is
because of twenty three Dash eleven hundred, which kept ICE
out of being able to be contracted for detention with
local law enforcement. So it's it's my thought that they
would probably try to use that to keep law enforcement
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from working with ICE. Already, they took away the two
eighty seven G program away, which we were using to
actually have police officers help us. Teller County was one
of the last counties that was under our two eighty
seven G program. So unless we got some changes here
in this state, I don't believe that we'd be able
to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Alexa has the following. Ryan.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I hope Tom Holman puts John somewhere on his team. Now, John,
you and I have discussed this. Nobody knows the situation
on the ground in Aurora with Trenda a rod with
better than you do, and you've done the shoe leather
work out there and figuring out what's going on. Has
anybody from the administration, Tom Homan or anybody else been
in contact with you.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I can't discuss that on air, but let's just you know,
let's just I will come on here first. Let's just
let's just put it. You will be the guy I
tell first when when something.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Happened, I'm going to hold you do that. You will
be the guy.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
A lot of texts about Comrade Kyle Alexas saying are
we going to get a play by play for your
duel with Comrade Kyle? Well, it was more like I said,
a tag team wrestling match, and it was very dramatic
with John Fabrigatory coming down the and jumping off the
top rope.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
The other part of this, Kyle's one thing.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But Chris Vanderveen jumping into this whole argument and it
wasn't when I posted yesterday. It was before you and
he had.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Him back and forth. What was his contention through all this?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I know Chris has a little something against me because
of the whole issue with the Emergency Management Company, the
Red Banion that had reached out to me, you know,
with asking me to be the one to talk about
the tender rau problem in the apartment complex. And I
took no money from that. I did not use my
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consulting firm for that. But the only reason that I
wanted to be able to talk about it, because I
knew what was going on. I'd been in the apartment complex,
is I've been in law enforcement. I thought I was
the right person to talk about it. And apparently nine
News didn't think I was because they never.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Talked to me. Why wouldn't they talk to you?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Because I know what's going on, And I don't think
that there's a lot of pushback that they can do
with me. I mean, other news stations have had me on.
I've done plenty of media about the situation. I've been
on Doctor Phil, I've been you know, a New York
Post dozens and dozens of times. In fact, I'm in
the New York Times today, you know, I don't I
just think that I didn't fit in the narrative that
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they wanted. They'd rather have the NGOs on there pushing
a different narrative and.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Kyle Clark front center in that entire endeavor. There's several
texts in a row here, I believe from the same texter.
And I'll explore this a little bit with you. Ask
Kyle for access to all his broadcast archives. It's in there.
Or turn the tables on Kyle. He's implying making a
claim that he did report on it. Ask him for
his proof explaining yes, if he's claiming he reported on
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the trendy arragua in a fair and balance way, he
should provide the evidence of that. Otherwise, I'm sure in
his broadcast archives there are several examples of him smugly
downplaying TDA in Aurora and or sarcastically challenging the credibility
of those claiming reporting on TDA presence and activities.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Boom nailed it.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, and that's the truth right there. And look, I
think Kyle's listening right now. He probably is, uh, And
I just want to put this out there. It would
be very hard to pin Kyle down saying he did
not believe it was happening, because Kyle knows what he's
doing when.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
He when he's on air. I mean, he's a professional,
you know.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Bottom line, we can all dislike the guy, but but
he knows, he knows what he's doing. And you know,
it would be very hard to pin him down to
an exact thing where he's saying it's not happening. But
the way he frames his stories, the way the story
is put out there, you cannot say that.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You the listeners that are listening right now that when.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
You watch nine News you don't feel like he is
gunning for conservatives over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You just you you can't say that.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And I think Kyle knows it's true, and he plays
the game, but uh, you know, every now and then
he comes out with something good that I'll that I'll
agree with him on, and I'm like, well, he's you know,
maybe he's going after Jena today or maybe maybe he'll
do something like that. Yeah, every now and then he
does come down and go to the other side. But
you know, with this Trender Ragwa thing, I just think
that they were on the wrong side of this.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And you know, that's that's my opinion on that.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I just don't understand journalistically sticking out that ground when
you don't know and you don't know what you don't know,
and I try to keep an open mind, and the
way I reported on.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
This was John. You came to me and I talked
to you.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
We had conversations off the air, then we had conversations
on the air. I reached out to Cindy Rameril. I
wanted to hear her story much the same way that
Vincenti Arenas did for Fox thirty one. He did and
he did his job.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, yeah with her, Just do your job.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
But I know that Kyle Clark has a racket where
he appeals to this broad swath of liberal viewers in
the Denver Boulder corridor.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
He gets great ratings. I'm sure number one in the market.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
He gets invited all the cool parties and gets to
hang with all the cool people, and said that he
took all the right sides and.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
All these issues. He's got a nice life carved out
for himself. Yeah, look that.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You know, when we talk about wrestling, you know, there
are heels and faces, and Kyle Clark is the heel,
and he does a good job of it. He markets
himself well well you know, but at the end of
the day, just just like just like you said, you
didn't even know me when we started talking about this.
I mean, I was running. I was running for Congress.
You and I had not met. You asked me to
come on. We started talking about this and you you,
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you did your due diligence. You you reached out to
me multiple times, asking you questions to make sure that
you felt comfortable putting this over on the air. And
what I was saying, you know, so they didn't do it,
and they're behind the eight ball.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Now, definitely John Fabricatory with me in studio, and we
turned now to another target, often of the aforementioned Kyle Clark.
Comrade Kyle as he's known in this program. She joins
us now in Ryan Schuling Live. Representative Lauren Bobert, Welcome back, Hello.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Brian, and hello to John Fabricutory. You know, I certainly
hope that there's a room in the administration for him
to do some good border security work there because we
all need it. We need all hands on deck in
this in this effort to close the border and especially
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to port criminal aliens and then those who just fought
off broke our law and entered our country illegally.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Thank you, Congressman. I really appreciate you, I really do.
You were amazing during my campaign. I can never thank
you enough. And you know, very very glad to have
been able to work with you.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
It was an honor.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
And you know now I just hope Jason Crowe doesn't
run for governor.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, and Lauren, right out of the gate, we'll get
to the zip code bill that you were able to
help get through the House just in a moment, but
just to comment on the topic at hand here. And
it's been hot and heavy on X and I've been
taking incoming from Kyle Clark and you know the whole
song and dance that he does on behalf of the Left.
But this report out of CBS four here in Colorado,
three suspects charged in Colorado in connection with rolling gunfight
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of at least six people in Aurora. We know that
they're from Venezuela, that was not mentioned in the story.
And San Diego just declaring themselves a super sanctuary county.
As Tom Holman borders ZAR and I is get prepared
to execute these deportations in a Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
What is your approach? What is your response to this resistance?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Well, first of all, it's unfortunate but not surprising that
we are experiencing this crime. This is something that we
discussed when Joe Biden opened our southern border with a
stroke of a pen on January twentieth, twenty twenty one,
and just the something that we've been fighting against for
nearly four years now. And it's also not surprising that
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CBS is not going to announce that these thugs are
from Venezuela. You know, we certainly aren't saying that all
Venezuelans are bad people, but there's certainly criminals who are
coming into our country from countries like Venezuela. I think
there's close to one hundred and seventy countries that people
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have fled from and came here with either with criminal
intent or or or something else. But either way, it's
the taxpayers who are funding this. And now with all
of the cities and counties that are really just really
standing strong with their sanctuary status and wanting to make
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that bulletproof, well it ain't going to happen, and we
aren't going to fund sanctuary cities, counties, states any further.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
This is something that President Trump has promised. I'm so
excited that Tom Homan is the borders are, He's not
ashamed of that title like.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
The previous borders are, and he is going to enforce
the rule of law, the laws that we have on
the books, and we will have a chief executive who
will who will be sure that he is enforcing that as.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Well and giving that authority to those who are in
his cabinet and in these positions to make our country
safe again. I'm excited that Tom Holman came to Colorado.
He came to Aurora with John Fabrogatory and I and
Congressmanship Roy from Texas. He came there to see it
for himself and to express what was done successfully in
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the past, where the Biden administration has failed America, and
what we can do in the future to resolve this.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Congresswoman Lauren Bolbert joining us, and I want to follow
up on something you said, because I think there in
lies the solution, Lauren, which is we've seen both Mayor
Eric Adams and Governor Kathy Hulkill say, hey, if they
are criminal aliens here, we will work with ICE to
help deport them. But we've seen quite a different tune
from Brandon Johnson, Chicago Mayor JB. Pritzker, Illinois Governor right here,
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Denver Mayor Mike Johnston, Governor Jared Poulis, and of course
throughout California under Governor Gavin Newsom. But it's the purse strings, right,
it's the federal funding that could be the cudgel here, Donald,
try us talk about that. Would that have to be
through an appropriations bill in Congress though, with Speaker Mike Johnson, yourself,
other Republicans working on this, and do you think that
would get through to cut federal funding to these sanctuary
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cities and states?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Yes, Well, according to the Constitution, all spending bills originate
in the House of Representatives. We have the power of
the purse and we need to tighten those purse strings
now I can. I can tell you those purse strings
are still pretty loose in this lame duck session and
it's not something that I'm happy about.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
You know, we just passed the NDAA.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
There was some great things for our military service members
that were in it. I've I you know, have I've
voted for ndaa's in the past, and I voted for
this one. But the spending in it is out of control.
And you know, I've even asked the Speaker myself, you know,
can we just pretend like we don't have any more
money to spend? We don't, and you know, now we're
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looking at CRS and one hundred billion dollars disaster release.
We know we need to that relief for those who
are hit by hurricanes. But also in this bill there's
somewhere around forty states that are being proposed to receive
funding as well and disaster relief. Forty states in America,
we're not hit by hurricanes, So we have got to
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tighten our spending overall. And I absolutely think we should
target the sanctuary states because I promise you those are
the states who are asking for the most federal dollars
and not money is not free money. We cannot continue
deficit spending. This money comes from hard working Americans, from
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their tax dollars, and we need to be good stewards
of those tax dollars. I'm grateful for Elon Musk and
Vivek Ramaswamis and their DOGE Commission, the Department of Government Efficiency.
Now I love and I'm a little annoyed with this
commission because this commission was created to oversee the the
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entire federal government, all of the agencies, all of the programs,
all of the employees, every dollar that is spent in
the federal government. And now that annoys me because we
used to call that Congress, but now we need.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
A special commission.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
To oversee it.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
And even in the House of Representatives, when Elon and
Vivek came in and spoke with us, I saw my
fellow colleagues who have been approving this nonsense, these unauthorized programs,
the reckless spending, go to the microphone and complain about
areas where there's waste, fraud, and abuse. Yet they're the
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ones who are approving it on a regular basis. So
they're basically standing at the microphones and saying, save us
from ourselves. So Congress has to get in line with
that DOGE Commission to really have accountability and to tighten
those purse strings. But hopefully the border is our number
one focus right out the gate. I want President Trump
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to have a bill ready to sign on January twentieth.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Representative Lauren Bolbert having just gotten through a bipartisan zip
code bill today. I know you were criticized, and I
think wrongly. First, she never passes a bill, she never
sponsors a bill. Well, here's one right here that got
through with bipartisan support through the House and now goes
to the Senate.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Lourd. Why was this important and why was it important
to you?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Yes, well, it's not my first bill that I have
passed and had signed into law, and certainly there's been
a lot of legislative victories that have been signed into law,
but this bill is my most favorite piece of legislation.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
That I have ever worked on.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
And I hope everyone listening has an opportunity to be
as passionate about something as I have been about this
zip code bill.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
So this bill, it.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Causes the United States Postal Service to recognize unique zip
codes for communities who do not have one that's recognized
for home deliveries, and they share zip codes with neighboring
cities and towns. Now, this impacts a lot of cities
with tax revenues. Those cities who collect tax revenues often
(17:13):
have to send them over to the next city that
has the zip code that they're labeled with. So, for instance,
the city of Loan Tree, they lose about five million
dollars in tax revenue every year through Littleton, and now
with this bill they will be able to have their
own zip code and keep those taxes they are already
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collecting from those who are buying goods in Loan Tree
and have more economic development there in Loan Tree. My
bill included fifty one cities communities all throughout America. It
was bipartisan, with a lot of work to get this
in committee, through committee, past committee, not unanimously, and now
(17:59):
today it passed the House unanimously. I think my new
pronouns are by partisan thanks without compromising. My principle still
one observative. This is what ultra vaga looks like.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Love it.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
I'm very excited that this bill has passed, and I'm
grateful that now hold on to your chair. I'm so
grateful for Senator Michael Bennett who is helping me in
the Senate with this bill. He and his staff have
been great to work with on this issue, and they
are working hard to ensure that this bill comes up
(18:40):
in the Senate next week so we can get it
signed into law quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Representative Lauren Bobert, that zip code bill, keep your eye
on it. Even help from Senator Michael Bennett. How about that?
And it affects one of the municipalities that I live in,
which is Greenwood Village. So Lauren, thank you as always
for your hard work. Thank you for your time today.
And I'll definitely see you at the inaugura, if not before.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Absolutely i'll see you then. And John Fabrigatory, thanks for
seeing in the fight. I'm glad that you're on with
Brian today and hope to be back in Colorado soon
with y'all.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Back here on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
My thanks to John FABRICATORI for joining me live in studio.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Always a good time with him.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And for Representative Lauren Bobert joining us in the previous segment.
We're on a roll here, so we're going to continue
with the soon to be outgoing president and CEO of
the Colorado Oil and Gas Association. You can follow him
on x at Dan Haley CEO. We know and this
is one of my favorite picks for Secretary of the Interior.
(19:43):
I had Burgamania. You guys know this what loved him
as a vice presidential nominee. Doug Bergham, Governor North Dakota.
He is going to be the Secretary of the Interior,
and it was announced just within the last couple of
weeks that Chris Wright will be his pick for Secretary
of Energy. Might our next guest be somewhere in the
mix in a Trump administration let's ask him right now.
Dan Haley joins us on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Dan, welcome back, Thanks for having me Ryan getting talk
to yet.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Now, I just got to say the timing of your
departure and it's a little bit sad for me because
I always enjoyed our conversations over the years. Is head
of COGA here you are? You got some time on
your hands? Are you going to join the Trump administration
and an energy capacity h Let me.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Start by saying, I too have enjoyed our conversations. Thank
you for having us on, Thank you for caring very
much about our industry in Colorado. And then the second
part of that is I will not be joining the
Trump administration, but I'm glad you thought of me in
that light. Chris Wright is going to be a fantastic
ambassador for all energy sources in our country and really
(20:41):
we'll be able to get that American energy dominance unleashed.
And we are so proud of him and we're so
excited for what he's going to bring to Washington.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Dan Haley joining us talking about energy and right here
in Colorado, it is our chief industry here at employees,
so many people provide so much revenue for this state.
And I got to say, in spot height of current
state leadership, we've seen that throttle, We've seen permits delayed. Dan,
You've had to have the headaches of navigating all of this.
What changes in a Trump administration Day one on January twenty,
(21:12):
twenty twenty five for your industry.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Yeah, there's a few things that will happen at the
federal level. I think it will take a while to
see that impact in Colorado because so much of the
work that's being done here is done on private lands
and we have to adhere to all those state policies.
But the first thing you'll see is an administration that
doesn't demonize the oil and gas industry at every chance
(21:35):
that it gets, and that actually wants to see this
industry succeed and be successful in this country. So that's
hugely important. One of the first couple things that the
administration can do that will have a positive impact on Colorado.
One is to get rid of this short sighted pause
on liquefied natural gas export permits that the Biden administration
(21:57):
implemented a year ago. That needs to go away. Once
you open up markets for natural gas, there will be
more Obviously very simply more of a need for natural gas,
and we are producing it here in Colorado. We're the
eighth largest natural gas producer in the country. The other
thing they can do is have some lease sales. What
happens in this industry is we have oil and gas
(22:19):
leases on federal lands, and by law, they should have
quarterly sales where companies can go in and get those
leases and produce that oil and gas on federal lands.
Since the Biden administration took over, there has been only
one lease sale in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It was very.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Small acreage up in Well County. Most of the federal
lands where we want to develop this resource are on
the western slope in the Peon space. So once we
start seeing those quarterly lease sales happen again, that will
be a good thing for energy production in this country
and will benefit the country and the state.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Dan Haley, he's the president and CEO of COGA Colorado
Oil and Gas Association, joining us here on Ryan Schuling Live.
We just saw this from the Denver Post, and Dan,
I imagine you saw it as well, that Colorado's economic growth
measured by State GDP, went from fifth best in the
nation over the prior fifteen years to forty first this year.
(23:12):
How much of a correlation do you believe there is
with the energy industry? And like you said, there are
so many in leadership right now, whether it be the
General Assembly or the Governor's office itself, that are hostile
to the energy industry here.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah, I think what you're seeing, Ryan is is that
Denver Post story and that economics lagging. Economic indicators are
more representative not just of what has happened to our industry,
but to all industries in this state. There was a
study that came out yesterday and it was really kind
of amazing. It came out on the exact same day
that this Denver Post story came out, or the economic study,
(23:48):
and it looked at regulations in Colorado. The Colorado Chamber
did the study. I would advise you to take a
look at it, talk about it with your listeners. It's
super interesting and it shows that the Colorado regulations are
among the highest in the country. We are on pace
this at the end of this year to be sixth
in the country in terms of the amount of regulations
(24:10):
that we have in this state. And I'll just if
you don't mind that can go through a couple of
things quickly, pipeline translation, which relates definitely to our industry,
but also personal services, which is this is becoming a
very service oriented economy, tech rumors, things like that, chemical
manufacturing also at least fifty percent growth in the number
of regulations governing those sectors in.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
A four year period.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
This four year period corresponds with when Democrats took over
all control of state government and Governor Polis became governor
in twenty nineteen, and so you're just seeing these massive
amounts of regulations that are impacting all industries, not just
our industry in Colorado, but the Colorado has the highest
number of regulations related to the environment, fifty three thousand,
(24:54):
five hundred and fifty rules versus the national average of
thirty thousand, which I found just and then I'll give
you one more quick one. The study also found that
forty five percent of Colorado's regulations are duplicative, redundant, or excessive,
beyond the level of most states. So it shows there's
room to actually roll back these regulations without hurting public
(25:15):
health and safety. And that's key in our industry. We
want to protect public health, we want to protect the wildlife,
We want to protect the environment. But when you've got
these massive rule changes that are happening throughout the year,
every single year, it begins to have an impact on
all of those things that we care about when it
comes to jobs in the economy.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Dan Healy, the president's CEO of COGA Colorado Oil and
Gas Association, joining us here Ryan Shulink Live. We mentioned
before the predecessor to Governor Jared Poulis, John hicken Luffer
is now a Senator, who drank flat fracking fluid. At
one point, it was promoting the use of it to
drill down for natural gas here in the state of
(25:53):
Colorado that would bolster our economy here. And yet suddenly,
as you mentioned, Dan, there was a turn specifically from
the left and from Democrats in power against the energy
industry on behalf of climate activists and at hamstrung. Not
only are Colorado economy, but nationally as well, and especially
since Joe Biden took over as president. He shut down
the drilling in anwar, he red lighted the Keystone XL pipeline.
(26:17):
We have to imagine those two things will be green
lighted once again. Drill baby drill under a President Trump.
But the fact of the matter is we're not ready
for a transition fully to green energy, solar and wind power,
or even nuclear power at this point. We don't have
the infrastructure for that, So we're going to have to
get oil and natural gas from somewhere, and that would
be dirtier to get it from Venezuela, from Iran, from China,
(26:40):
from Russia. But with the election of Donald Trump, we
just saw that the EU is going to start buying
American natural gas again. So there appears to be a
turn here. But why is it, do you think? Because,
like you said, you were committed to environmentally friendly exploration
for energy here in the state of Colorado. Why won't
Democrats work with you on that and loosen regulations so
(27:01):
you can do more of it.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yeah, it's super frustrating, and I think you keyed in
on something really important that the governor has actually said,
and it was listed in his greenhouse Gas road map.
It's way towards the back of it, but you can
find it, and it said that his administration does not
support a ban on this industry because if you did
ban it here in Colorado, we would end up, excuse me,
importing this resource from other states. And other countries that
(27:25):
don't have the same environmental standards that we have here
in Colorado. So it's really frustrating when you look at
this idea. You're absolutely right, we're not transitioning to anything overnight.
The only thing, well we might transition to is foreign energy,
and that's not what we want to do. So there
is not a grid system that allows for all renewables
at this point. There is no replacement product for what
we can create with oil and natural gas for all
(27:47):
the things that we need in our daily lives. So
we need this resource, we believe we should be producing
it here in Colorado, and we really hope we can
get to some more reasonable lawmakers for them to understand
the impact that all these rules are having on what's
happening out in the field and the need for this
resource so we can produce it here.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
In this country.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
So we're excited there's a new administration coming in and again,
like I said at the very beginning, just the rhetoric
that comes out of the White House means something. It
has an impact on markets. People will understand we're going
to develop this resource in this country under the cleanest
standards in the world, and that will change greatly on
January twentieth. And that's a good thing not just for
this industry, but it's a good thing for Colorado. It's
(28:26):
a good thing for parks, recreation centers, libraries, hospitals, all
these things that our tax dollars go to.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Every year.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Our industry pays two billion dollars in stay in local
taxes in Colorado. If we're going to go, those taxes
go away, and that impact we felt in communities where
we live, in work, and so it's really important that
we continue to produce this resource in Colorado under these
really tough standards. And I think what you're going to
see is a restoration of some sanity into our energy
(28:56):
policy in this country. Two thirds of Americans, and this
track in Colorado Americans want and support that responsible energy
production in this country.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Dan, final question, and that is what happens in January.
As you hand the baton off to Lynn Granger as
the new president and CEO of KOGA.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Why are you leaving? Why now? And what's next for you?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, I'm working on what's next for me right now.
It really Ryan became. You know, I've been in this
job for more than nine years. We have had more
than thirty rule makings in that time, and it really
is a taxing position to be in. It's really I
looked at this as time for fresh eyes, new energy
to come in. I care so much about this industry.
(29:37):
I care so much about this association that you kind
of know when it's time to have somebody else come
in and take the reins. And Lynn is going to
be a fantastic person to do that. She has experience
very similar to this. She ran Api Colorado, she knows
the legislature, she's been in the fight, and we're excited
to get her here and started well.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I look forward to conversations with Lynn Granger, and I
look forward to continuing conversations with you, Dan, no matter
where it leads.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And maybe it will lead to the Trump administration. You
never know, you never know.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Thank someone, all right.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Dan Haley joining us from COGA, and again I've really
enjoyed our conversations over the last several years. You can
follow him on exit Dan Haley COO a timeout, We're back.
Based Fetterman would come back to close out the show
on Ryan Schuling Live and now Everybody's Favorite Democratic Congress
(30:30):
with another edition of Based Fetterman. He's the ass that's
going to die in prison. Congratulations. If you want to
celebrate that a sewer is going to sewer. That's what
social media is about this, and I don't know why
the media wants to turn that into a story. Just
(30:51):
with these trolls saying these kinds of things anonymously like that,
I don't know why that's news. Remember, he has two
children that are going to grow up without their father.
It's vile if you've gunned someone down that you don't
happen to agree with their views or the business that
they're in. Hey, you know, I'm next, there, next, he's next,
She's next. Senator John Fetterman. I had to do my
(31:11):
best Morgan Freeman impastination there with the voiceover because I
saw that quote and it was such a money quote
from Senator John Fetterman. And We're gonna have a lot
of these over the next few years. I'm looking forward
to them. There's nobody in Congress I think i'd rather
hang out with have a beer with than John Fetterman.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Just such a good dude, straight shooter, and I like that.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
You know, I don't agree with him on a majority
of things, but I agree with his based takes like
that one. I couldn't find video or audio of that anywhere.
It was reported by NBC, and that was John Fetterman's
take on this kind of love affair. It's very creepy
and strange and weird and gross. That's the media. Jake
(31:52):
Tapper Jimmy Kimmel's staff will talk about more of that
with Christian Toto on Friday on the Right Side of
Hollywood Is.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
He joined during the two o'clock hour.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
But Kelly, you gotta like what John Fetterman had to
say there about Luigi men GIONI. I mean, does it
matter that Luigi is attractive? And do you find him
physically attractive personally?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
No, don't know why not? Well, you know he did murder.
She's a murderer. There's that.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
So we got to have like a couple of screws
loose top.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Kaylie, you know, I'm did you ask your daughter?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I have not.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
I didn't even know if she She's on like big
time studying for finals this week. You can't be distracting,
so you know, she probably doesn't even know about it.
I mean, she probably has heard of it, but she's
not you know, looking at it and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Not her style. Here's Jumy Kimmel just to taste what
you're here on Friday, we.
Speaker 9 (32:44):
Definitely know who wins time Sexiest alleged murderer of the Year.
That would go to Luigi Mangioni, the suspect in the
shooting of the CEO of United Healthcare, who has become
the hottest cold blooded killer in America. I'm not sure
what this says about us whatever, Since these photos of
him came out from his holding cell, from his mugshot,
(33:05):
someone found his abs somewhere online. Ryan Murphy right now
is flying and Netflix headquarters in a jetpack. So many
women and so many men are going nuts over how
good looking this killer is. And there's a huge wave
of horny washing over us. Like it's like when one
(33:27):
of the guys you work with says he I had
a dream about you last night. When it's the FedEx
guy with the big muscles and the rolled up sleeves,
you're like, oh, But if it's the bald it guy
wearing a crocs with black socks you're on the phone
with HR, it's kind that same dynamic.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I mean, I want to be a prude here, Kelly,
But are we right to have some fun with this,
this guy that just killed an innocent man.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
No, okay, I think that's very, very poor taste. And
I do want to add I think that the money
aspect may have a little bit to do with it,
and that he led this kind of exotic life where
he lived in Hawaii for six surfers and he got
hurt surfing, and that's how this whole thing kind of metastasized.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It could work for it. Yeah, nicely done, and we'll
talk more about that with Christian Toto. Straight ahead.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It is Christy Burton Brown and Heidi Ganal filling in
for Dan Kaplis Kelly Cacera, she'll stick around my thanks
to Zach Karen Ryan Schuling Live
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