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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Responding to speech with violence is cowardly and it's un American.
The terror attack on the Jewish community in Boulder was
both firebombing old ladies, was also an act of anti
Semitic hate, one of the oldest forms of.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hate in human history.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
After this many centuries of it, there's no excuse not
to identify it and call it by name.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The latest target was a group including a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Of older folks, who came together each week to remember
the hostages held by hamas a peaceful gathering to draw.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
The community's attention.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
They weren't protesting, they weren't picketing, but even if they were,
they would not have been deserving of violence in response
to their words.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's not how America is supposed to work. It's one
of the things.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That makes this country a beacon attracting people from less
free places, and for those who come here from the
world over.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's non negotiable.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You don't get to come to America and meet speech
you don't like with violence.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Kyle Clark nine News, but he's making my point for
me in the following way. He says, responding to speech
with violence is cowardly and it's un American. He's absolutely right.
I agree we have an accord. Will it continue? I'll
check in just a moment. However, the individual who perpetrated
this terror act was un American, was not an American,
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was Harry illegally over state of visa Egyptian national, had
not conformed to our culture, to our society, had not
become an American citizen, did not assimilate to our belief system,
to our constitution, to what makes this nation great. And
Kyle hit on part of it there, But he doesn't
connect the dots like I just did. Those who would
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come here illegally, they don't all intend us harm, but
they are undermining the laws of our country, the immigration
laws of our country. Let's see if Kyle can keep
it together, and if he and I can remain on
the same page. I have my doubts.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Following the attack in Bolt, we've heard calls for a
crackdown on speech that criticizes the government of Israel, suggesting
that's somehow an automatic precursor to hate and violence. No,
that's also cowardly and un American. Instead, the worst moments
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should invite us to respond with the best of this country,
a place where speech should be protected and political violence
should not be tolerated.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
You had me and then you lost me. Yeah, Sinatra group,
Phil Hartman classic sketch, Go look at our SNL. That's
a straw man argument, literal fallacy of the straw man
meaning all these people out there they're trying to do
is criticize the government of Israel. That's not what is happening.
And Kyle Clark knows it, or he should know it. Boycott, divest,
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sanction Israel is designed to choke Israel out of existence
from the river to the sea, Ira, medicate Israel from
the map pre Palestine. That has become code. That is
what this terrorist was yelling before throwing molotov cocktails at
Holocaust survivors. That does not mean literally what it says,
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not anymore. And we're seeing it play out the assassinations
of the couple in Washington, DC because they were Jewish,
not because they represented Israel, because they were Jewish. Say it.
Kyle was saying it, and then he veered off course
and he diverged from the plan. And this texter points out,
since you're about to have Danielle Jorinsky on, Kyle Clark
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made it a point to report her reaction on both
Next and the ten PM News. Although he's technically correct
that Democrats did not legalize murder and rape as she claimed,
he completely failed to acknowledge the indirect effects of progressive
and Democrat policies that Danielle was pointing out as being
first over being Jewish. A post from Kyle Onex saying
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quote leading Colorado Republicans are blaming Democrats for the anti
Semitic terror attack in Boulder, Aurora City Councilwoman Danielle Jirinsky
says Governor Jared Poulis and other state leaders are not
really Jewish and belong to a quote demonic cult hashtag
CEO politics. She joins us now in her own words,
daniel Jerinsky a or City Council Ryan schuling with you. Danielle,
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thank you for your time.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Thanks Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Your response to this post from Kyle Clark about you
saying that Jared Poulis and other state leaders are not
really Jewish and they belong to a demonic cult, Well.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
What else do you call it? The Democratic Party has
been eaten alive by socialists, by Karl Marx followers, by
folks who call for intifatic for folks that call from
the river to the sea, from folks that call for jenocide,
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I don't care how they word it. From the river
to the sea means what where do Jews go?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Then?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Where do they go? You go back in history? How
many places have we as Jews been kicked off? Kicked
out of our own lands? My family from the Ukraine
kicked off their land in nineteen seventeen, lost everything, just
told you have no home, you have no land, you
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have no animals. Leave. So they go to Poland. They
go to Poland, thinking they're going to be safe there.
They go to loads, Poland, which becomes the Load's ghetto
during the Holocaust, so they have to flee there where
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What does it mean? What does it mean? It means
that the Democratic Party no longer exists. It's been eaten alive,
demonic worshiping socialist Marxists who want genocide. And I don't
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see moderate Democrats necessarily standing up to them. I see
some who have tried. But then there are those like
Kyle Clark who want to paint himself as a moderate,
who egg this on. Oh constantly want to attack people
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like me, But you don't see him attacking Elizabeth ep regularly,
Kim Hernandez regularly when they're in office. You don't see
him outraged by these protests calling for literal genocide. And
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let me tell you something, Yes, they have made murder legal.
Caitlynn Weaver, twenty four years old, beautiful young woman with
her whole life ahead of her, driving home from work
in Auraura in broad daylight, was murdered by a fifteen
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year old illegal illegal. A fifteen year old illegal. Let's
start where do I start with? How many crimes were committed?
He's fifteen years old, he has no driver's license, he
has no insurance. Know how he got the car? Mom
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says she didn't know he had the car. Who knows
what the heck the real story is with all of that,
I have no idea, but so to start there? When
he has young children, I'm guessing younger siblings in the
vehicle with him. He's doing ninety in a forty five
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ninety He hit Caitlin Weaver, an American citizen. He hit
her so hard she was dead instantly, instantly. And what
was his punishment by the New DA in the eighteenth
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Judicial District, Liberal Amy Patton, what was his punishment? Three
years probation. What does that say the typical democratic motto
were monitoring the situation. So yet you have made murder legal.
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And Kyle Clark, when I spoke up about the sex trafficking, horrors,
the rape, the extortion, the beatings, the stabbings, everything going
on in the apartment complexes in Aurora, where were you, Kyle?
You've never once invited me on your show. You turned
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a blind eye. To this day you call me a
hysterical Oh she went on a tirade. Oh more unsounded claims.
So yes, you have you have made these crimes legal.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yes you have powerful words from Daniel Jerinsky Aurora City Council.
You can follow her on X at Danny Jirinsky d
A n I Jirinsky j U r I n s
k y on X. Now you threaded the needle on
very much a big problem here in Colorado, Daniel, that
you have faced head on, and you deserve credit for
in sticking up for Sydney and Ed Romero. As trendy Arragua,
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a violent Venezuelan gang ran rough shot over apartment complexes
in Aurora, where you represent the citizens. You helped her
escape that war zone, that mad Max beyond Thunderdome zone,
so that needs to be mentioned. And you mentioned k
Weaver and that was in your own backyard as well.
This was Amy Padden. This was a decision made by
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the prosecutor, not a judge, not a judge, the prosecutor,
Amy Padden suggesting and selecting the lightest possible punishment. And
Tom Holman, to your point, got into this with World
County Sheriff Steve Reims in an interview yesterday. Here were
his comments on that case.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
We had a young lady that was killed here just
not too long ago, by the name of Caitlin Weaver.
She was killed by a fifteen year old, a legal
immigrant that crashed into a car and ended up getting
the severe punishment of probation when she went to court
in Arapahoe County. Luckily enough, over the last few days
some of your ice agents were able to pick that
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young individual up and are working to deport him from
the country.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
That was a sad thing though if that was a
US citizen they got probation.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No absolute when a.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Lot of judges are given these illego a lighter sentences
so they don't come into the attention advice matter of fact,
if you're a resident AM and you guys make to
a felony, you can lose your green card, but you've
got to have least three at least two a year
in jail. There's some of these sanctuary states that they'll,
you know, they'll they'll finally get to think him three
hundred and sixty days because they know I have three
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hundred sixty five days now, Danielle.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
On this point, there are those that make an argument,
and okay, that those that are here illegally, maybe they
should have equal rights to American citizens. I disagree vehemently.
I know you do too. But what we're watching play
out here in this case and in others, is that
illegal aliens are being afforded extra rights, super rights beyond
those of legal American citizens like Caitlin Weaver. That they
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need to be marked for deportation, They cannot be shielded
or protected. They've committed a crime in this instance, and
yet the Democrats, Amy Padden being one of them, you
know her well, are bending over backwards to afford them
the opportunity to stay in this country.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Why because to my point, to my point, they are
making these types of crimes legal.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's what it is.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I don't care how else she worded.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
You can tell me.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Oh no, he still went through the justice system. He
did receive a punishment. He was punished.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
That's a punishment, a.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Murder for driving without a license, having young children also
in the car, no insurance. How many crimes do we
need to step up? The wiser said, oh, you know,
maybe after they still but the third or fourth car,
then we should put them in jail. How do you
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argue against anything other than the fact that Democrats have
worked so hard to make crime legal. But God forbid,
your son comes home and tells you that he no
longer wants to be Joe, he wants to meet Josephina.
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God forbid you refuse to accept that they'll take your son.
Those are the laws that they're passing. Those are the
laws that they're passing. But these illegals, this God this
clear who did this in Boulder? How did he get
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a driver's license? Jared Polis? How how did he get
a driver's license? They are being afforded more opportunities than Americans.
They are being allowed to commit crimes essentially legally because
to Tom Holman's point, what would have happened?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
What could have happened to me if I had been
going ninety in a forty five and I killed someone
instantly and I didn't have a driver's license and I
didn't have insurance.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
What stake I have seen for that?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
What what I have seen? So to argue against me
that they aren't making crime legal, you have judges walking
illegals out the back door, telling them how to get
out safely so that ice can't find them. That's a crime.
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That's why that judge was arrested because she was trying
to make a crime legal. There's no way around this.
And then again, Heaven forbid that I find out that
one of the victims is an eighty eight year old
Holocaust survivor, and it brings me to tears, and I
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show any sort of emotion as a woman, as a politicians,
as a Jewish American, Heaven forbid I break faith. I'm hyspherical,
I'm a hyspherical, I'm a nutjob, I'm unhinged. I'm on
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a tie read. I need to seek help. Are these
people human? Do they not show emotion? They don't know
how to show emotion.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Daniel Jerinsky, our guest Aurora City Council and the point
that she makes Mohammed soul Amount was licensed to drive,
because I know this having driven for Uber myself. You
have to have a license. And he this terrorist was
driving for Uber eats down in Colorado Springs. So that
part of it adds up. One final thing here, Danielle,
so appreciati of your time. I can feel the passion
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and emotion in your voice. I want you to respond
to what Tom Holman has to say here about flooding
the zone in Colorado, that this incident in particular was
not the only tipping point, but it certainly maybe the
turning point. And how ICE focuses on our state as
a sanctuary state, and you know that it is, and
Denver is the sanctuary city as a target for ICE deportations.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Well, Lota flood his own the sanctuary states. So you
can't expect to make shriff right there in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
But you guys, you're like, you.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Know, as yourself, you've got a good Sheriff's say, I
get a few, but uh, you know Denver, you know
we're gonna be all over Denver, Denver, and we know
this is huge, Deily, we're alian populars. There more agents
we have the Maury ands Ras and the President Trump
Kess promised American people on running the base deportation out
for cist.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Country's ever seen. Danielle, You know that they faced a
lot of opposition built in right here in the infrastructure
of the sanctuary laws of Denver in Colorado. But do
you have faith that Tom Holman is going to follow
through on this? I know your good friend John Fabricatory
has just been appointed to help HHS and Robert F.
Kennedy Junior and tracking down all these children that are
missing throughout the United States. Do you have faith that
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the Trump administration is going to get the job done
here in Colorado?
Speaker 9 (16:54):
You know, Ran, all I can do is hold out
hope and hold on to faith, because I am looking
at a country that, after the previous four years administration
is almost unrecognizable to me. Americans are being put last,
and it's so disgusting. What I would say to Tom Holman,
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and I've met Tom Holman, I sat down with Tom Holman,
I was in a meeting with Tom Holman.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
What I would say is, please don't give up on us.
Please please flood Colorado, please, and and and for the
Democrats who are are fighting against this, and you know, say,
they're going to stand in the way, and they're going
to disrupt as much as they can. Well, arrest them
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first of all, arrest them, but second of all for
their own protection. I will fight for them too. I
will fight for them too, because it can't be. It
can't be. It can't be another Caitlin Weaver. It can't be.
It can't be a Democrat child, It can't be a
Democrat's wife or any Democrats family member that has to
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suffer through some tragedy like this for them to wake
up and say, well, we'll wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Maybe I was wrong, Maybe I was wrong. No, no, no,
no no, I'm gonna protect you now, whether you like
me or not, whether you agree with me or not,
whether you think I am everything Mi Kyle Klark says
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I am. I'm fighting for you too. I'm fighting for
you too, Democrats because I'm like other politicians, I'm not
gonna wait. I'm not gonna wait until something happens. Well
like Sjalen Weaver already happened, but I'm not gonna wait
until the next thing happened or the next thing happens.
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I'm not going to closely monitor the situation. And no,
I'm not just gonna send thoughts in prayers. I am
going to demand act so for Tom Holman, for Christino,
for the FBI, for President Trump. Get here and get
here now. They all know how to contact me. Flood Colorado,
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flood it.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Daniel Jerensky, Aro City Council. Passionate thoughts there, and Danielle.
Always admire your passion and thank you so much for
your time. I know this issue on so many levels
is near and dear to your heart. What happened in
Boulder on Sunday unacceptable. You and I both know that,
but there needs to be a consequence for that, and
there needs to be action. I could not agree with
you more. Thank you so much for joining me today.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Thank you, coybye.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
All right, Daniel Jensky, you can follow her on x
at Danny Jirinsky d A N I j U R
I N Sky Straight fire from Daniel Jerensky. Yesterday joining
me on the Ross Kaminski Show where I was filling in.
I thought it was worthy of a re listen on
this program and your response, We're getting lots of it.
At five seven, seven, three nine will take this time out.
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When we come back keeping at local George Teel, chair
of the Douglas County Board of Commissioners. He'll join me
from the airport. He's about to fly out to DC
do something for doug CO there, and he joins me
to explain his support for his county's efforts to become
a home rule county. You'll hear more of those details
about what it is, why it is, why it's important,
and why it may happen in Douglas County. He's on
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the pro side of it, on the anti side of it.
Former Douglas County Commissioner Laura Thomas will join me in
hour number two, so you'll get both sides of the
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Speaker 10 (22:11):
Douglass County commissioners have started the process to become a
home rule county.
Speaker 11 (22:15):
That means it has the power to govern itself independently
of state law.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
The final decision, though, is going to be up to voters.
Speaker 11 (22:21):
December seventh, Alley General John is outside the government office
in Castle Rock this morning and Ali ahead of a
special election in June, there is a deadline coming up
for those interested in serving as a commission member.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
Yeah, April twenty fourth, that is the deadline, and each
of those people interested, they'll need to get twenty five
voter signatures to be placed on that ballot. Then that
special election will happen in two months. And here's the
two questions that voters will be asked. First, should Douglas
County form a charter commission? If they answer yes to that,
then they'll select twenty one commission charter Commission members. Now,
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if that goes through, those Charter Commission members will have
two hundred and forty days is to create a charter
then voters will vote on that in the November fourth election.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What is home rule though, We've been.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
Looking into that and put simply, it puts more power
back in the hands of the county, allowing them to
make governing decisions on local matters instead of defaulting to
the state law. Commissioner George Tels tells me there are
four main reasons that led the board to consider this,
their experience with COVID nineteen, precautions, gun regulations, taxation.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
And immigration.
Speaker 10 (23:25):
Just using one of these as an example, Teal says
the county is charging too much for taxes because of
state law, but he says becoming a home rule charter
would allow them to dictate that tax bill.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
We think what we have going on here in Douglas
County right now is working, and so my goal is
to preserve what is working, preserve the things that we
actually value, and capture that in our home rule charter
and honestly give us a means to fight back and
push back against a legislature that is becoming more and
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more out of touch with the people of Douglas County.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Now, not everyone agrees this is the right move. Laura Thomas,
a former Douglas County commissioner, cleared up some confusion on
x saying, quote, home rule at a county level does
not provide a process to opt out of state laws,
and according to the Colorado Municipal League, some downsides of
becoming a home RL county could include citizens that try
to adopt amendments which can't be done without a vote,
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legal uncertainties like if the issue at hand is truly.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Considered to be a local concern and it can be costly.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
Now just reiterating that the final decision will be up
to voters. If passed, the county of nearly four hundred
thousand people would become only the fifth county in Colorado
to become home rule. To see a full list of
those other counties, visit our website Denver seven dot com.
Live in Douglas County Allegiander John Denver seven.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Thanks to Ali and Denver seven for that report, leading
into our conversation with the voice that you heard, George Teal.
He's the chair of the Douglas County Board of Commissioners.
He is very much in favor of his these efforts
to become a home rule county and he joins us
Now Ryan Schuling Live George, thanks for your time and
how you're going to the airport. You're very busy, But
just in response to kind of those downsides, the negatives
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you heard at the end of that package. I wanted
to give you the opportunity to respond to that, to retort.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Yeah, you know, listen, I really enjoyed the six and
a half And by the way, thanks for having me
on Ryan. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
But I spent six and a half years on the
cast Rock Council and so I know CML very well.
I was on the CML Policy Committee for three years.
The problem with CML is they know municipal home rule
and that's detailed. The powers of municipal home rule are
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detailed in a completely different section of the calar Revi Statutes,
and so I get it. They can talk about the
downsides of home rule for municipalities, but it's very rare
that we have people that know both the municipal home
rule powers and the county home rule powers. Our County Attorney,
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Jeff Garcia, came to us from the City and County
of Denver and he knows. So that's kind of the
dirty little secret in Denver government is sometimes they try
to get things done by playing the nip home rule powers,
and when they get rejected and they get told no,
you can't do that, then they just switch over and
they say, well, actually, we're a city in a county,
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and so then they play the county home rule powers
and that's how Denver kind of does a lot of
the stuff that they do that nobody else seems to
be able to do, either as Justice city or just
a county. So we've done in depth analysis of what
it means to go through and become a home rule
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county and the additional powers, the additional rights and privileges
under the state countitution that a home rule county gets
is cmo Z different and municipal powers. But that's okay.
We're not a municipality. We're a county, right, And we've
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done this analysis. We've gone into it eyes wide open,
and we're trying to share that knowledge with as many
residents of Douglas County as we can to get us
through a yes vote on June twenty fourth.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Want to thank Janet King, a listener, for bringing this
issue to our attention, why we're addressing it on the
program today, and then Sherry tweeting at me the following,
the most liberal neighbor on my street has her no
on home rule lawn sign next to her black Lives
Matter lawn sign makes me skeptical about voting no. And
I replied to her that would make me a default
yes as a starting point. But then, George, I want
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you to respond to Laura Thomas, who will be appearing
on my program in the next hour. She says, the
following Home rule does not allow counties to opt out
of state laws. We don't like immigration, gun control, grocery
bag fees. We must follow all state laws. All home
rule allows a county to do is change the structure,
such as extending term limits, increasing salaries, making some positions
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appointed as opposed to elected.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
What say you, I say, that's been Lord Thomas's opinion
for the last five years and she has neither listened
to nor has she allowed the thoughts and the ideas
and the facts to change that opinion. When Lord Thomas
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was on the Border County Commissioners with us, she wouldn't
even sit still. She wouldn't even have a rational conversation
about home rule. She started no, just like that neighbor
with the Black Lives Matter sign, and she never left
know And I get it. She she what you just said,
and I'm sure she's going to say and actually that
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because Lord Thomas has never bothered to sit through and
digest the facts the way to curt every elected official
at the county level in Douglas County has and when
they did, we have the support of every single elected
official at the county level right now in Douglas County.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Now, there's a humorous episode of Family Guy in which
Peter Griffin declares his own home lot Petoria, he wants
to be a totally independent nation. And I get the sense, George,
it's a ridiculous, extreme example. But however, it's not entirely
out of line that Doug CO wants as much as
possible to have autonomy, to have independence from a Colorado
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General Assembly that is out of control, that has just
passed a law transing the kids and taking kids away
from you. If you disagree with affirming that gender, I mean,
this is madness. You and I both agree on that.
But in terms of actual power, the legality of this,
of what Doug CO will be able to do, just
kind of looking at this from that perspective that Laura has,
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but where the courts might come down on Douglas County's
ability to govern itself, independent and free of various state laws,
or where state law might supersede or trump anything you're
trying to do with home rule.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
Yeah. No, that's a great, great question, great example. It's
not a complete panacea. You know, none of us should
be fooled to think that there will be zero state
laws that apply in Douglas County. If we go home rule,
we're not succeeded. We are merely taking advantage of the
rights and privileges provided for in the state constitution that
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was adopted in nineteen seventy and Wild County and Pitkin
County have taken advantage of those. And I think when
you talk to, you know, folks in Wild County, particularly
the elected officials, they will tell you the numerous advantages
that they have. And when you talk about, well, will
the courts will allow you to get away with everything?
(30:59):
The answer is no, the courts will not allow you
to get away with everything. But that's something very instructive there,
and it goes to the burden of who has to
do the work. Right now, we consider the sanctuary the
three sanctuary state laws that are on the books in
the state of Colorado unconstitutional. We sued the State of
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Colorado in order to get those found to be unconstitutional. Well,
we're a satutary county. We are an agency of the
State of Colorado. We were told you don't have standing
to do that with home rule. As an independent legal entity,
we will have that standing. But it's better than that because,
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as you'll find in Will County, they don't go suing
the state a lot. They don't hardly suit the state
at all. They just don't do it. State wants to
do regulation, maybe they do it, maybe they don't. The
burdens that on the state through Wild County or if
Douglas County goes home rule, the state to sue us
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in order to compel our compliance instead of where we
are right now, where we need to sue, we need
to the burden is on us because we're an agency
of the state and as a homegle County. The burden
will then be on the state. They want to impose
something on Douglas County, well, then they got to impose
(32:29):
it on Well, they got to impose it on picking.
The state has to do that work to come after us,
and we can conduct our lives to our principles. So
I get what Laura's trying to say. I get what
she's trying to prove. I get what the naysayers are
trying to say and what they're trying to prove. But
the bottom line is home rule for Douglas County means
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more more autonomy and more latitude to create the county
government we want and to have the any government that
we actually need.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
My reflexive instinct, having endured this absolute insanity from the
Colorado Democrats. If it's good enough for Weld County and
Pitkin County, if I'm in Douglas County, then I want it.
That's my default position. I noticed George Teal's as well.
He as a Douglas County commissioner and the chair of
those commissioners pushing for this home rule concept. And George,
we really appreciate you kind of putting meat on the
(33:24):
bone here to the discussion, especially on a travel day
for you, So thank you for your time. We'll follow
up is this continues to develop as a story, and
we'll talk to you then.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
Yeah, please, do I see a good win for the
people of Douglas County. Vote yes on home rule and
it will.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Come down to a vote. Like he just said. You
can follow him on ex at g tl T E
a L like the color letter c R. That's George Teal,
Chair of the Douglas County Board of Commissioners. Laura Thomas
will join us an hour two with the counter argument,
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Responding to speech with violence is cowardly and it's un American.
The terror attack on the Jewish community in Boulder was
both firebombing old ladies, was also an act of anti
Semitic hate, one of the oldest forms of.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hate in human history.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
After this many centuries of it, there's no excuse not
to identify it and call it by name.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The latest target was a group including a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Of older folks, who came together each week to remember
the hostages held by hamas a peaceful gathering to draw.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
The community's attention.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
They weren't protesting, they weren't picketing, but even if they were,
they would not have been deserving of violence in response
to their words.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's not how America is supposed to work. It's one
of the things.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That makes this country a beacon attracting people from less
free places, and for those who come here from the
world over.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's non negotiable.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You don't get to come to America and meet speech
you don't like with violence.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Kyle Clark nine News, but he's making my point for
me in the following way. He says, responding to speech
with violence is cowardly and it's un American. He's absolutely right.
I agree we have an accord. Will it continue? I'll
check in just a moment. However, the individual who perpetrated
this terror act was un American, was not an American,
(01:20):
was Harry illegally over state of visa Egyptian national, had
not conformed to our culture, to our society, had not
become an American citizen, did not assimilate to our belief system,
to our constitution, to what makes this nation great. And
Kyle hit on part of it there, But he doesn't
connect the dots like I just did. Those who would
(01:42):
come here illegally, they don't all intend us harm, but
they are undermining the laws of our country, the immigration
laws of our country. Let's see if Kyle can keep
it together, and if he and I can remain on
the same page. I have my doubts.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Following the attack in Bolt, we've heard calls for a
crackdown on speech that criticizes the government of Israel, suggesting
that's somehow an automatic precursor to hate and violence. No,
that's also cowardly and un American. Instead, the worst moments
(02:18):
should invite us to respond with the best of this country,
a place where speech should be protected and political violence
should not be tolerated.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
You had me and then you lost me. Yeah, Sinatra group,
Phil Hartman classic sketch, Go look at our SNL. That's
a straw man argument, literal fallacy of the straw man
meaning all these people out there they're trying to do
is criticize the government of Israel. That's not what is happening.
And Kyle Clark knows it, or he should know it. Boycott, divest,
(02:53):
sanction Israel is designed to choke Israel out of existence
from the river to the sea, Ira, medicate Israel from
the map pre Palestine. That has become code. That is
what this terrorist was yelling before throwing molotov cocktails at
Holocaust survivors. That does not mean literally what it says,
(03:15):
not anymore. And we're seeing it play out the assassinations
of the couple in Washington, DC because they were Jewish,
not because they represented Israel, because they were Jewish. Say it.
Kyle was saying it, and then he veered off course
and he diverged from the plan. And this texter points out,
since you're about to have Danielle Jorinsky on, Kyle Clark
(03:37):
made it a point to report her reaction on both
Next and the ten PM News. Although he's technically correct
that Democrats did not legalize murder and rape as she claimed,
he completely failed to acknowledge the indirect effects of progressive
and Democrat policies that Danielle was pointing out as being
first over being Jewish. A post from Kyle Onex saying
(03:57):
quote leading Colorado Republicans are blaming Democrats for the anti
Semitic terror attack in Boulder, Aurora City Councilwoman Danielle Jirinsky
says Governor Jared Poulis and other state leaders are not
really Jewish and belong to a quote demonic cult hashtag
CEO politics. She joins us now in her own words,
daniel Jerinsky a or City Council Ryan schuling with you. Danielle,
(04:19):
thank you for your time.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Thanks Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Your response to this post from Kyle Clark about you
saying that Jared Poulis and other state leaders are not
really Jewish and they belong to a demonic cult, Well.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
What else do you call it? The Democratic Party has
been eaten alive by socialists, by Karl Marx followers, by
folks who call for intifatic for folks that call from
the river to the sea, from folks that call for jenocide,
(04:54):
I don't care how they word it. From the river
to the sea means what where do Jews go?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Then?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Where do they go? You go back in history? How
many places have we as Jews been kicked off? Kicked
out of our own lands? My family from the Ukraine
kicked off their land in nineteen seventeen, lost everything, just
told you have no home, you have no land, you
(05:27):
have no animals. Leave. So they go to Poland. They
go to Poland, thinking they're going to be safe there.
They go to loads, Poland, which becomes the Load's ghetto
during the Holocaust, so they have to flee there where
(05:47):
What does it mean? What does it mean? It means
that the Democratic Party no longer exists. It's been eaten alive,
demonic worshiping socialist Marxists who want genocide. And I don't
(06:09):
see moderate Democrats necessarily standing up to them. I see
some who have tried. But then there are those like
Kyle Clark who want to paint himself as a moderate,
who egg this on. Oh constantly want to attack people
(06:30):
like me, But you don't see him attacking Elizabeth ep regularly,
Kim Hernandez regularly when they're in office. You don't see
him outraged by these protests calling for literal genocide. And
(06:50):
let me tell you something, Yes, they have made murder legal.
Caitlynn Weaver, twenty four years old, beautiful young woman with
her whole life ahead of her, driving home from work
in Auraura in broad daylight, was murdered by a fifteen
(07:15):
year old illegal illegal. A fifteen year old illegal. Let's
start where do I start with? How many crimes were committed?
He's fifteen years old, he has no driver's license, he
has no insurance. Know how he got the car? Mom
(07:36):
says she didn't know he had the car. Who knows
what the heck the real story is with all of that,
I have no idea, but so to start there? When
he has young children, I'm guessing younger siblings in the
vehicle with him. He's doing ninety in a forty five
(08:00):
ninety He hit Caitlin Weaver, an American citizen. He hit
her so hard she was dead instantly, instantly. And what
was his punishment by the New DA in the eighteenth
(08:20):
Judicial District, Liberal Amy Patton, what was his punishment? Three
years probation. What does that say the typical democratic motto
were monitoring the situation. So yet you have made murder legal.
(08:41):
And Kyle Clark, when I spoke up about the sex trafficking, horrors,
the rape, the extortion, the beatings, the stabbings, everything going
on in the apartment complexes in Aurora, where were you, Kyle?
You've never once invited me on your show. You turned
(09:04):
a blind eye. To this day you call me a
hysterical Oh she went on a tirade. Oh more unsounded claims.
So yes, you have you have made these crimes legal.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yes you have powerful words from Daniel Jerinsky Aurora City Council.
You can follow her on X at Danny Jirinsky d
A n I Jirinsky j U r I n s
k y on X. Now you threaded the needle on
very much a big problem here in Colorado, Daniel, that
you have faced head on, and you deserve credit for
in sticking up for Sydney and Ed Romero. As trendy Arragua,
(09:44):
a violent Venezuelan gang ran rough shot over apartment complexes
in Aurora, where you represent the citizens. You helped her
escape that war zone, that mad Max beyond Thunderdome zone,
so that needs to be mentioned. And you mentioned k
Weaver and that was in your own backyard as well.
This was Amy Padden. This was a decision made by
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the prosecutor, not a judge, not a judge, the prosecutor,
Amy Padden suggesting and selecting the lightest possible punishment. And
Tom Holman, to your point, got into this with World
County Sheriff Steve Reims in an interview yesterday. Here were
his comments on that case.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
We had a young lady that was killed here just
not too long ago, by the name of Caitlin Weaver.
She was killed by a fifteen year old, a legal
immigrant that crashed into a car and ended up getting
the severe punishment of probation when she went to court
in Arapahoe County. Luckily enough, over the last few days
some of your ice agents were able to pick that
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young individual up and are working to deport him from
the country.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
That was a sad thing though if that was a
US citizen they got probation.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No absolute when a.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Lot of judges are given these illego a lighter sentences
so they don't come into the attention advice matter of fact,
if you're a resident AM and you guys make to
a felony, you can lose your green card, but you've
got to have least three at least two a year
in jail. There's some of these sanctuary states that they'll,
you know, they'll they'll finally get to think him three
hundred and sixty days because they know I have three
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hundred sixty five days now, Danielle.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
On this point, there are those that make an argument,
and okay, that those that are here illegally, maybe they
should have equal rights to American citizens. I disagree vehemently.
I know you do too. But what we're watching play
out here in this case and in others, is that
illegal aliens are being afforded extra rights, super rights beyond
those of legal American citizens like Caitlin Weaver. That they
(11:39):
need to be marked for deportation, They cannot be shielded
or protected. They've committed a crime in this instance, and
yet the Democrats, Amy Padden being one of them, you
know her well, are bending over backwards to afford them
the opportunity to stay in this country.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Why because to my point, to my point, they are
making these types of crimes legal.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That's what it is.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I don't care how else she worded.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
You can tell me.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Oh no, he still went through the justice system. He
did receive a punishment. He was punished.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
That's a punishment, a.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Murder for driving without a license, having young children also
in the car, no insurance. How many crimes do we
need to step up? The wiser said, oh, you know,
maybe after they still but the third or fourth car,
then we should put them in jail. How do you
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argue against anything other than the fact that Democrats have
worked so hard to make crime legal. But God forbid,
your son comes home and tells you that he no
longer wants to be Joe, he wants to meet Josephina.
(13:02):
God forbid you refuse to accept that they'll take your son.
Those are the laws that they're passing. Those are the
laws that they're passing. But these illegals, this God this
clear who did this in Boulder? How did he get
(13:22):
a driver's license? Jared Polis? How how did he get
a driver's license? They are being afforded more opportunities than Americans.
They are being allowed to commit crimes essentially legally because
to Tom Holman's point, what would have happened?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
What could have happened to me if I had been
going ninety in a forty five and I killed someone
instantly and I didn't have a driver's license and I
didn't have insurance.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
What stake I have seen for that?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
What what I have seen? So to argue against me
that they aren't making crime legal, you have judges walking
illegals out the back door, telling them how to get
out safely so that ice can't find them. That's a crime.
(14:23):
That's why that judge was arrested because she was trying
to make a crime legal. There's no way around this.
And then again, Heaven forbid that I find out that
one of the victims is an eighty eight year old
Holocaust survivor, and it brings me to tears, and I
(14:47):
show any sort of emotion as a woman, as a politicians,
as a Jewish American, Heaven forbid I break faith. I'm hyspherical,
I'm a hyspherical, I'm a nutjob, I'm unhinged. I'm on
(15:09):
a tie read. I need to seek help. Are these
people human? Do they not show emotion? They don't know
how to show emotion.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Daniel Jerinsky, our guest Aurora City Council and the point
that she makes Mohammed soul Amount was licensed to drive,
because I know this having driven for Uber myself. You
have to have a license. And he this terrorist was
driving for Uber eats down in Colorado Springs. So that
part of it adds up. One final thing here, Danielle,
so appreciati of your time. I can feel the passion
(15:42):
and emotion in your voice. I want you to respond
to what Tom Holman has to say here about flooding
the zone in Colorado, that this incident in particular was
not the only tipping point, but it certainly maybe the
turning point. And how ICE focuses on our state as
a sanctuary state, and you know that it is, and
Denver is the sanctuary city as a target for ICE deportations.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Well, Lota flood his own the sanctuary states. So you
can't expect to make shriff right there in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
But you guys, you're like, you.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Know, as yourself, you've got a good Sheriff's say, I
get a few, but uh, you know Denver, you know
we're gonna be all over Denver, Denver, and we know
this is huge, Deily, we're alian populars. There more agents
we have the Maury ands Ras and the President Trump
Kess promised American people on running the base deportation out
for cist.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Country's ever seen. Danielle, You know that they faced a
lot of opposition built in right here in the infrastructure
of the sanctuary laws of Denver in Colorado. But do
you have faith that Tom Holman is going to follow
through on this? I know your good friend John Fabricatory
has just been appointed to help HHS and Robert F.
Kennedy Junior and tracking down all these children that are
missing throughout the United States. Do you have faith that
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the Trump administration is going to get the job done
here in Colorado?
Speaker 9 (16:54):
You know, Ran, all I can do is hold out
hope and hold on to faith, because I am looking
at a country that, after the previous four years administration
is almost unrecognizable to me. Americans are being put last,
and it's so disgusting. What I would say to Tom Holman,
(17:15):
and I've met Tom Holman, I sat down with Tom Holman,
I was in a meeting with Tom Holman.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
What I would say is, please don't give up on us.
Please please flood Colorado, please, and and and for the
Democrats who are are fighting against this, and you know, say,
they're going to stand in the way, and they're going
to disrupt as much as they can. Well, arrest them
(17:40):
first of all, arrest them, but second of all for
their own protection. I will fight for them too. I
will fight for them too, because it can't be. It
can't be. It can't be another Caitlin Weaver. It can't be.
It can't be a Democrat child, It can't be a
Democrat's wife or any Democrats family member that has to
(18:06):
suffer through some tragedy like this for them to wake
up and say, well, we'll wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Maybe I was wrong, Maybe I was wrong. No, no, no,
no no, I'm gonna protect you now, whether you like
me or not, whether you agree with me or not,
whether you think I am everything Mi Kyle Klark says
(18:28):
I am. I'm fighting for you too. I'm fighting for
you too, Democrats because I'm like other politicians, I'm not
gonna wait. I'm not gonna wait until something happens. Well
like Sjalen Weaver already happened, but I'm not gonna wait
until the next thing happened or the next thing happens.
(18:51):
I'm not going to closely monitor the situation. And no,
I'm not just gonna send thoughts in prayers. I am
going to demand act so for Tom Holman, for Christino,
for the FBI, for President Trump. Get here and get
here now. They all know how to contact me. Flood Colorado,
(19:14):
flood it.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Daniel Jerensky, Aro City Council. Passionate thoughts there, and Danielle.
Always admire your passion and thank you so much for
your time. I know this issue on so many levels
is near and dear to your heart. What happened in
Boulder on Sunday unacceptable. You and I both know that,
but there needs to be a consequence for that, and
there needs to be action. I could not agree with
you more. Thank you so much for joining me today.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Thank you, coybye.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
All right, Daniel Jensky, you can follow her on x
at Danny Jirinsky d A N I j U R
I N Sky Straight fire from Daniel Jerensky. Yesterday joining
me on the Ross Kaminski Show where I was filling in.
I thought it was worthy of a re listen on
this program and your response, We're getting lots of it.
At five seven, seven, three nine will take this time out.
(20:00):
When we come back keeping at local George Teel, chair
of the Douglas County Board of Commissioners. He'll join me
from the airport. He's about to fly out to DC
do something for doug CO there, and he joins me
to explain his support for his county's efforts to become
a home rule county. You'll hear more of those details
about what it is, why it is, why it's important,
and why it may happen in Douglas County. He's on
(20:23):
the pro side of it, on the anti side of it.
Former Douglas County Commissioner Laura Thomas will join me in
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Speaker 10 (22:11):
Douglass County commissioners have started the process to become a
home rule county.
Speaker 11 (22:15):
That means it has the power to govern itself independently
of state law.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
The final decision, though, is going to be up to voters.
Speaker 11 (22:21):
December seventh, Alley General John is outside the government office
in Castle Rock this morning and Ali ahead of a
special election in June, there is a deadline coming up
for those interested in serving as a commission member.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
Yeah, April twenty fourth, that is the deadline, and each
of those people interested, they'll need to get twenty five
voter signatures to be placed on that ballot. Then that
special election will happen in two months. And here's the
two questions that voters will be asked. First, should Douglas
County form a charter commission? If they answer yes to that,
then they'll select twenty one commission charter Commission members. Now,
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if that goes through, those Charter Commission members will have
two hundred and forty days is to create a charter
then voters will vote on that in the November fourth election.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What is home rule though, We've been.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
Looking into that and put simply, it puts more power
back in the hands of the county, allowing them to
make governing decisions on local matters instead of defaulting to
the state law. Commissioner George Tels tells me there are
four main reasons that led the board to consider this,
their experience with COVID nineteen, precautions, gun regulations, taxation.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
And immigration.
Speaker 10 (23:25):
Just using one of these as an example, Teal says
the county is charging too much for taxes because of
state law, but he says becoming a home rule charter
would allow them to dictate that tax bill.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
We think what we have going on here in Douglas
County right now is working, and so my goal is
to preserve what is working, preserve the things that we
actually value, and capture that in our home rule charter
and honestly give us a means to fight back and
push back against a legislature that is becoming more and
(23:58):
more out of touch with the people of Douglas County.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
Now, not everyone agrees this is the right move. Laura Thomas,
a former Douglas County commissioner, cleared up some confusion on
x saying, quote, home rule at a county level does
not provide a process to opt out of state laws,
and according to the Colorado Municipal League, some downsides of
becoming a home RL county could include citizens that try
to adopt amendments which can't be done without a vote,
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legal uncertainties like if the issue at hand is truly.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Considered to be a local concern and it can be costly.
Speaker 10 (24:31):
Now just reiterating that the final decision will be up
to voters. If passed, the county of nearly four hundred
thousand people would become only the fifth county in Colorado
to become home rule. To see a full list of
those other counties, visit our website Denver seven dot com.
Live in Douglas County Allegiander John Denver seven.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Thanks to Ali and Denver seven for that report, leading
into our conversation with the voice that you heard, George Teal.
He's the chair of the Douglas County Board of Commissioners.
He is very much in favor of his these efforts
to become a home rule county and he joins us
Now Ryan Schuling Live George, thanks for your time and
how you're going to the airport. You're very busy, But
just in response to kind of those downsides, the negatives
(25:10):
you heard at the end of that package. I wanted
to give you the opportunity to respond to that, to retort.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Yeah, you know, listen, I really enjoyed the six and
a half And by the way, thanks for having me
on Ryan. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
But I spent six and a half years on the
cast Rock Council and so I know CML very well.
I was on the CML Policy Committee for three years.
The problem with CML is they know municipal home rule
and that's detailed. The powers of municipal home rule are
(25:46):
detailed in a completely different section of the calar Revi Statutes,
and so I get it. They can talk about the
downsides of home rule for municipalities, but it's very rare
that we have people that know both the municipal home
rule powers and the county home rule powers. Our County Attorney,
(26:06):
Jeff Garcia, came to us from the City and County
of Denver and he knows. So that's kind of the
dirty little secret in Denver government is sometimes they try
to get things done by playing the nip home rule powers,
and when they get rejected and they get told no,
you can't do that, then they just switch over and
they say, well, actually, we're a city in a county,
(26:27):
and so then they play the county home rule powers
and that's how Denver kind of does a lot of
the stuff that they do that nobody else seems to
be able to do, either as Justice city or just
a county. So we've done in depth analysis of what
it means to go through and become a home rule
(26:51):
county and the additional powers, the additional rights and privileges
under the state countitution that a home rule county gets
is cmo Z different and municipal powers. But that's okay.
We're not a municipality. We're a county, right, And we've
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done this analysis. We've gone into it eyes wide open,
and we're trying to share that knowledge with as many
residents of Douglas County as we can to get us
through a yes vote on June twenty fourth.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Want to thank Janet King, a listener, for bringing this
issue to our attention, why we're addressing it on the
program today, and then Sherry tweeting at me the following,
the most liberal neighbor on my street has her no
on home rule lawn sign next to her black Lives
Matter lawn sign makes me skeptical about voting no. And
I replied to her that would make me a default
yes as a starting point. But then, George, I want
(27:45):
you to respond to Laura Thomas, who will be appearing
on my program in the next hour. She says, the
following Home rule does not allow counties to opt out
of state laws. We don't like immigration, gun control, grocery
bag fees. We must follow all state laws. All home
rule allows a county to do is change the structure,
such as extending term limits, increasing salaries, making some positions
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appointed as opposed to elected.
Speaker 8 (28:09):
What say you, I say, that's been Lord Thomas's opinion
for the last five years and she has neither listened
to nor has she allowed the thoughts and the ideas
and the facts to change that opinion. When Lord Thomas
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was on the Border County Commissioners with us, she wouldn't
even sit still. She wouldn't even have a rational conversation
about home rule. She started no, just like that neighbor
with the Black Lives Matter sign, and she never left
know And I get it. She she what you just said,
and I'm sure she's going to say and actually that
(28:53):
because Lord Thomas has never bothered to sit through and
digest the facts the way to curt every elected official
at the county level in Douglas County has and when
they did, we have the support of every single elected
official at the county level right now in Douglas County.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Now, there's a humorous episode of Family Guy in which
Peter Griffin declares his own home lot Petoria, he wants
to be a totally independent nation. And I get the sense, George,
it's a ridiculous, extreme example. But however, it's not entirely
out of line that Doug CO wants as much as
possible to have autonomy, to have independence from a Colorado
(29:34):
General Assembly that is out of control, that has just
passed a law transing the kids and taking kids away
from you. If you disagree with affirming that gender, I mean,
this is madness. You and I both agree on that.
But in terms of actual power, the legality of this,
of what Doug CO will be able to do, just
kind of looking at this from that perspective that Laura has,
(29:56):
but where the courts might come down on Douglas County's
ability to govern itself, independent and free of various state laws,
or where state law might supersede or trump anything you're
trying to do with home rule.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
Yeah. No, that's a great, great question, great example. It's
not a complete panacea. You know, none of us should
be fooled to think that there will be zero state
laws that apply in Douglas County. If we go home rule,
we're not succeeded. We are merely taking advantage of the
rights and privileges provided for in the state constitution that
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was adopted in nineteen seventy and Wild County and Pitkin
County have taken advantage of those. And I think when
you talk to, you know, folks in Wild County, particularly
the elected officials, they will tell you the numerous advantages
that they have. And when you talk about, well, will
the courts will allow you to get away with everything?
(30:59):
The answer is no, the courts will not allow you
to get away with everything. But that's something very instructive there,
and it goes to the burden of who has to
do the work. Right now, we consider the sanctuary the
three sanctuary state laws that are on the books in
the state of Colorado unconstitutional. We sued the State of
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Colorado in order to get those found to be unconstitutional. Well,
we're a satutary county. We are an agency of the
State of Colorado. We were told you don't have standing
to do that with home rule. As an independent legal entity,
we will have that standing. But it's better than that because,
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as you'll find in Will County, they don't go suing
the state a lot. They don't hardly suit the state
at all. They just don't do it. State wants to
do regulation, maybe they do it, maybe they don't. The
burdens that on the state through Wild County or if
Douglas County goes home rule, the state to sue us
(32:06):
in order to compel our compliance instead of where we
are right now, where we need to sue, we need
to the burden is on us because we're an agency
of the state and as a homegle County. The burden
will then be on the state. They want to impose
something on Douglas County, well, then they got to impose
(32:29):
it on Well, they got to impose it on picking.
The state has to do that work to come after us,
and we can conduct our lives to our principles. So
I get what Laura's trying to say. I get what
she's trying to prove. I get what the naysayers are
trying to say and what they're trying to prove. But
the bottom line is home rule for Douglas County means
(32:53):
more more autonomy and more latitude to create the county
government we want and to have the any government that
we actually need.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
My reflexive instinct, having endured this absolute insanity from the
Colorado Democrats. If it's good enough for Weld County and
Pitkin County, if I'm in Douglas County, then I want it.
That's my default position. I noticed George Teal's as well.
He as a Douglas County commissioner and the chair of
those commissioners pushing for this home rule concept. And George,
we really appreciate you kind of putting meat on the
(33:24):
bone here to the discussion, especially on a travel day
for you, So thank you for your time. We'll follow
up is this continues to develop as a story, and
we'll talk to you then.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
Yeah, please, do I see a good win for the
people of Douglas County. Vote yes on home rule and
it will.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Come down to a vote. Like he just said. You
can follow him on ex at g tl T E
a L like the color letter c R. That's George Teal,
Chair of the Douglas County Board of Commissioners. Laura Thomas
will join us an hour two with the counter argument,
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