Mandy Connell, KOA live from DNC in Chicago; Miranda Devine, NY Post on Biden's angry sendoff speech
August 20, 2024 • 34 mins
Mandy Connell, KOA joins Ryan live from the Democratic Naitonal Convention at the United Center in Chicago, reflecting on who was the target audience for Day 1 speakers who seemed to be preaching to the choir and ginning up the far left base.
Miranda Devine, New York Post has thoughts on President Joe Biden's angry, vitriolic, bitter speech in which he was completely consumed by his hatred for Donald Trump, rather than offering a hopeful and optimistic vision for the future with his heir apparent Kamala Harris waiting in the wings.
Miranda Devine, New York Post has thoughts on President Joe Biden's angry, vitriolic, bitter speech in which he was completely consumed by his hatred for Donald Trump, rather than offering a hopeful and optimistic vision for the future with his heir apparent Kamala Harris waiting in the wings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, it's this time of day every day that
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we begin the Mandy Connell postgame Show, and she is
joining us in that capacity along with me Ryan Schuling.
Valdemar Archiletta. He is the GOP candidate in the first
congressional district race against Diana de get Be sure to
find out more about his campaign.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Where can they go, Valdemar go to Archiletta for Colorado
dot com.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
There it is, and he's also the president of the
log Cabin Republicans. And my good friend and Mandy Connell
joins us live from Chicago, site of the Democratic National
Convention in the United Center on Radio Row.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Mandy, welcome back to it.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Hello my friend, and you know I love that Valdemar,
who is also a friend of mine, has that great website.
But could you have a harder to spell last name, Valdemar.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I'm just I don't know if who's on to me.
I don't think it's that.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Go ahead and spell at Valdemar.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
My first name is probably more difficult.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, I like that because of our ch U l
e t there it is.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Four f are is Okay. That's the information.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So Mandy, like I said, you were joining us during
the break that we had your update for our radio listeners.
It was very meta experience you we're hearing yourself but
coming back live now. I do have a follow up question,
which is, we know we're hearing from Barack Obama tonight.
Is Michelle Obama schedule to speak as well?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Or no?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yes, I believe so now I say that not knowing
for certain, we don't get the final speaker schedule until
like five o'clock in the afternoon. Six o'clock maybe is
because that's when the programming starts they send it out.
Is Michelle on there? Now? Michelle is on the list
that we have for tonight, but we were given a
last list last night. It was not necessarily accurate. But
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what we do see is that Barack Obama is not
supposed to start speaking until ten PM. So if last
night is an indication of what's going to happen tonight,
it could be midnight before this thing gets over Ryan midnight.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Well and building on that point because they think this
is something to watch. There is no way that the
Democrat National Committee allows Barack Obama to veer outside of
the primetime window in the Eastern Times on the way
that they had Joe Biden take the stage at eleven
twenty four pm in the Eastern Times on last night.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Right, Well, I.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Mean, let's be real, there's the theory that mister Briden
took the stage so late just in case, right, like,
just in case the wheels came off. We don't want
him in primetime, but it would be an absolute waste
to have Resident Barack Obama speak outside of primetime because
you know, he's a great speaker, and everybody is super
fired up and ready to hear him. People are starting
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to kind of come into the venue right now. We
just saw Al Sharpton, we saw Jesse Jackson, So people
are starting to come in and get ready for tonight.
And I think that you're right. They don't want him
out of primetime, but Kenny pull it off. Well see,
and I don't mean him, I mean, can they keep
everybody else on schedule because that's clearly what didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh, it was a disaster, and we know that there
was trouble getting into the venue because of the protesters outside,
the security protocols, etc. Mandy Connell, our guest Life from
Chicago and Sight of the DNC. Now I'm going to
give my perspective. I watched most of this. I subjected
myself to it. I don't know why it was torture,
but what I saw was some forced joy, happiness, et cetera.
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And what I heard was a lot of grievances, airing
of grievances Costanza style, fran Costanza constant mentioning and pillaring
of Trump, and not really a focus of what did
the Democrats have in terms of a plan for America
that would sway an undecided voter. Now from the inside, Mandy,
what did you observe along those lines, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Sing Ryan? I mean there was a lot of Obviously,
Trump was the focus of a lot of ir last
night and a lot of attacks on him his policies.
Let's be real, though, you don't come to a convention
to get into a deep policy discussion. Difference here in
this particular convention is that we have so few policy
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positions from the Harris Walls ticket. Right We've got one
little economic policy that came out last Friday, So I've
been asking everybody about that, but we don't have a
lot to go on right now. So I do think
there's a little more pressure to maybe give a little
more information about the actual policies that will be implemented.
But at the same time, this is a love fest,
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just like the RNC was a love fest. It's all
of the Democratic faithful. They're here to see their preferred candidate.
They don't care about policy. They're here to cheer. They're
here to be excited, they're here to feel the vibe.
They're not here to hear a policy discussion about what
we're actually going it. Well, maybe the protesters want to
hear what we're going to know about Israel, but nobody
else does.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Mandy Connell our guest.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Of course, you can hear her on KOA weekdays from
noon to three pm over on our sister station, and
she is live in Chicago. My next question kind of
on that note, Mandy, I've been to both conventions. Now
you're one of the few people that can say that,
and you observed this, and something you and I have
talked about with the Republican convention was when you compare
it to twenty sixteen or even twenty twenty, which there
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wasn't a real convention that point because of COVID, that
the unity of the Republican ticket behind Donald Trump. After
the assassination attempt. Really, everybody on the same page, pulling
in the same direction, to me, is in sharp contrast
with a Democratic Party that really is in turmoil. I
think even by their own admission, they've had to switch
out the top of the ticket candidate Kamala Harris did
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not receive a single vote in the primaries. You got
protesters outside, you got boarded up businesses. There's a lot
of discord within the party, and they're disagreeing on Israel, Gaza, ceasefire,
et cetera. What does the Democrat Party have to do
maybe tonight and through the rest of this convention to
kind of pull it all together or can they Well, I'll.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Be perfectly honest, last night, after Joe Biden left this arena,
he will never be spoken of again. And everyone is
walks up in behind the Harris Walls team. Whatever is
happening outside with the protesters and trying to figure out
a plan for Israel is being summarily ignored inside. Okay,
So when you get into the walls of this place,
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everybody is talking about Kamala Harris. Everyone is excited about
Kamala Harris. There is no division inside this convention. So
it's a little bit difficult to sort of purse out
the individual issues because inside the building everybody is on
the same page. And I have to say they did
that with such breath taking speed that I admire it.
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I admire how do you get everybody to fall in line?
But they have done just that, And I honestly think
it is no matter what your individual beef is or
whatever your individual positions on certain issues is, they're all
so grateful that Joe Biden isn't the candidate that they're
all just looking ahead. Now, forget about what just happened.
We don't need to talk about that ever. Again, we
completely blue democracy out of the water. But we're saving democracy,
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So that's all we're going to talk about. It's a
very focused group of people, and they're all focused on
getting Harris Walls over the finish line.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It might be focused, and I agree with you on
that take, Mandy, but that they throw Biden overboard just
this feels like a party that's playing not to lose.
In other words, they knew they were going to lose,
probably ye with Joe Biden. And it's not even that
they're singing the praises of Kamala Harris. It's just that
she's not Joe Biden, and they're going to try to
ride this out to the finish line, like you said,
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with no policy positions on the website or articulated at
this convention. The other part of it I want you
to comment on, Mandy, is Joe Biden gives his address.
I thought Joe Biden it was like with Vinegar that
she was giving this praise for Kamala Harris last night.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And then Ashley Biden as well. The Biden's are gone.
They get on a plane, they get on Air Force one,
they go to California. From what I'm hearing in the reporting,
the Obamas are gone after tonight. Bill Clinton speaks tomorrow.
Are they going to stick who's sticking around for Thursday
and the Kamala Harris speech and her coronation.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I have no idea. I have no clue. But do
you think that the reason that Barack Obama is speaking tonight,
at least in part is you want to have a
little separation between Barack Obama the w still wildly popular,
I mean just a wildly popular guy, and he's a
great speaker. So if you have any concerns about being
compared unfavorably. You've got to have that separation, and maybe
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that's why you're not going to see them on Thursday night.
I don't know. I don't know what the thinking is
behind that, but I do know that politics being as
it is, there is a reason, right, There's definitely a reason.
So I am trying to kind of parse out what
that reason to be. And the only thing I could
think of is, if you're trying to say this is
a new guard, the last thing you want is the
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old guard in the audience, reminding people of what was,
even if it was better than what you have now.
Especially if it's better than what you have now, there is.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That threat of overshadowing the current ticket, and that might
be what they're trying to avoid. Follow her on x
at Mandy Connell, and of course you can hear her
coverage all week long over on KO. She's on live
noon to three pm in the Mountain time zone. Mandy,
thank you so much for your time today. We'll talk
again tomorrow, all right, Ryan, I have a good one,
all right, Mandy Connell, right there, Valdemar. Aren't a lot
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of your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, I think I agree with much of what Mandy said,
And I also am sometimes jealous of the way the
collective on the left just do as they're told, as
they're told, without infighting, without anything to say, all right,
this is what we're gonna do. I had heard someone
make this statement, and I think it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
In the same way.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
On the left, people who are left leaning politically, they
want big government, they want to be taken care of
by the government.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
They feel the same.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Way in politics that they're very much okay with just
the people at the top making the decision and going
along with it, whereas like on the right, where the
Republicans were very much about individuals, and if you take
that individual voice away, we tantrums and we freak out.
And in some ways that's good, because I think you should.
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But at some point I wish we would come together
a little bit. So they're both kind of extremes. You
need to work towards that middle. But I am also
amazed that that happened, and so few people seem to
really care, Like the whole primary didn't matter. Nothing, you
didn't mattered, and they're just and like this basically happened
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
It happened in twenty sixteen, Bernie.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, do you really not care?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And like I said, I wish I could give credit
to who I heard this from. It was on some
podcast or something, maybe it was you. I don't think
you said someone. Maybe someone said it. But it makes
sense to me that they are They like being taken
care of, so even in this political sense, they're okay
with the people at the top making the decisions as
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long as it works, and they see this as a
decision that's gonna work, so they don't care that their
voice was not listened to.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I think that's astute analysis, felled a because I feel
the same thing. And when you put all the pieces
of the puzzle together, you know, I don't like to
pick up my dad, but he's seventy seven years old,
he's got COPD, he's there's a lot of fear, and
he was scared a little bit during COVID. I don't
blame him, and he got you know, all the vaccines
still got it. Paxlovid did a lot more for him
in the aftermath of COVID than I think the shots did,
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that's my opinion. But with a masking too. That's another
thing that the sheep mentality followers on the left. And
I don't say that lightly, but they do. They go
along kind of this is the way we're supposed to
do things.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
We don't think to question it, think to question it.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I mean, this is what I get so frustrated with
when it comes to my own father. He was part
of a baby boomer generation that said, don't trust anybody
over thirty, challenge authority, protest against the Vietnam War, don't
believe everything you're told by the powers that be.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
What happened to the boomers? What happened to the boomers?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh? No, Yeah, being a conformist used to be a
bad thing.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
He used to call people that to insult.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Then now it's like it's almost like they take pride
in that. Now, Yes I'm a conformist. I do what
I'm told. Oh to say it like that, But they
feel that.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Way, like rage against the machine is now rage for
the machine.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
You better do what you'reitating wear you get your shot.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I don't understand. This does not make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Wait, we are like we are the new rebels, the
punk rock it's on our side. Is the libertarian kind
of right of center mentality, Like you just said Valdemar's
we're the ones that are saying, no blank you, I'm
gonna make up my own mind.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I do hope that I I and in talking to
young people around Denver and in my in my district,
I will say this, when I speak to someone who's
a gen Zer, when they look at me, I can
tell they're listening, and that is very It gives me
hope because I can see them looking at what I'm
saying and they're listening to it. And I had talked
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to one gen Zer once and I asked, how do
I speak better? How do I better approach gen Z?
And They're like, just be honest with them. They get
so much crap thrown at them. For someone to come
out and just say something that's real and honest, they'll listen.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
And I found that to be true.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
So I do hope that this younger generation will see
us as we are the new counter culture.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
We are the cool kids.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We're the ones rebelling against authority, and I think that
is still almost in human nature, that is the cool
thing to do. I don't know what happened with some
of the other there is that one group of people
that did seem like now the young people were all conforming,
but I think that's changing now that I think the
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younger generation, who are in their early twenties late teens,
are ready to rebel against And I don't mean that
like in any violent way or anything, but you know,
just go against what authority is doing because it's obviously
not working. Prices are going up, they're not going to
be able to afford a home. Renting's going up. No
one can live on their own. They must have like
ten roommates to exist, exactly. I don't want to do that,
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and so it's time to stand up to that and
do something different.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Think about what gen Z has been through. These younger
people had at least one, if not two, of their
high school years taken away from them. They had to
stay home, they had to do zoom classes, they couldn't participate.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
In sports or prom.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And some of these same students had their college graduation
just taken away because of these mindless pro Hamas protesters,
let's stay on the campus of USC and I believe you, Valdemar.
I think there's a gen Z Republican revolution that is
possible out there, because what are we encouraging. Think for yourself,
don't believe what we're telling you. Just to face value
because we're telling you it. Do your own research, make
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up your own minds. Give them that freedom that they
feel empowered finally, rather than being dictated to. And this
is the whole theme for the show today with Valdimarre
Archoletta in studio, is that the Democrats want to constrain people,
have them obey, have them fall in line Valdemar's day,
so he has to be a Democrat. Stay in your silo, Valdimar,
stay you're laying. Don't take for yourself because that makes
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you dangerous. That is that's the attitude you get. And like,
I was talking to a couple the other day and
they were a young couple. I'm I even feel weird
calling him a couple. They're like twenty, but anyway, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Old, like, you can't be a couple. You are too young.
You are too young to be a couple. But anyway,
the girl and the two of them, a young woman.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
She was.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
She was respectful, but she was very kind of confrontational.
And the question she was asking the young man there
said nothing but looking at his face, I can tell
everything I was saying. He was thinking about it. I'm
not going to get through to her, but with him,
he was thinking about everything I said. And I've noticed
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that another thing other places as well. I mentioned going
to talk to Democrats. I was at another festival and
I went to the Democrat booth because they were there,
and the older man there. He was being very calmfrontational
with me. But there was a young girl there who's
like nineteen and same thing. She wasn't really saying anything,
but I can tell everything I was saying. She was
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listening to me and she was thinking about it. And
later I was talking to someone else. They're like, why
were you talking to them for so long? And I
was like, if it was just him by himself, I
would have just said, you know, good day, thank you,
and leaving or whatever. But because she was there, I'm like,
you don't know what you're going to say that's going
to get through, that's going to give them cause to
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question things and what may be the one thing that
changes their mind about their political leanings or their political
view of the world.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
So we do.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's hugely important that we go into these places where
it may be uncomfortable and we have these conversations because
you never know who you're going to reach. And I
do have hope with our younger generation. I know a
lot of times as older conservatives like to talk about
the crazy kids and the things they're doing, but I
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do have hope for them. And even in Denver, I
have hope and that I've seen in like our past
municipal election, in our past primary this past June, the
more radicals on the left were voted out. So in
Elizabeth Apps, Yeah, Tim Hernandos sat craziness either.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So Valdimore Archiletta our guest in studio for the full
show today. You can find out more about his campaign
in the first Congressional District at Archiletta for Colorado dot Com.
Coming up next, Miranda Devine, New York Post, All Things Biden.
She is, of course, the author of Laptop from Hell
and a feature writer columnist for The New York Post.
Interested to get her thoughts on the DNC. When we
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come back after this stick and stay to six point
thirty k out.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
And finally finally finally deliver a cease firing and this war.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Us those protesters out in the street, they have a point.
A lot of innocent people are being killed on both sides.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh oh, so Joe Biden is going to say there
are good people on both sides?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Is he now?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And do they do the Prohomas protesters really have a
good point? Do they make a good point out there
calling for the end of Israel? My god, man, Ryan
shooling back with you six point thirty k how and
joining us now? I think she would agree that Joe
Biden made about as much sense as a stunned mullet
last night. She's with the New York Post and she
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is Miranda Devine, Miranda, welcome back.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Hi, Ryan, great to be with you. You what a
terrible work.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
You see what I did there? Though?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That reference that you dropped on me about a month ago,
I brought it back. You have good memory and it'll
always stick with me. I'll never forget it. But yeah,
build on that what you watched last night, Miranda. We've
been told, we've been assured by the Democratic Party that
this was going to be a convention of joy. They
were going to spread all kinds of joy everywhere. We're
going to be basking and bathing in the joy. Was
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there joy last night?
Speaker 7 (19:09):
It was actually the opposite, Ryan, apart from the little
One and a half minute speech that Kamala Harris gave,
as you can call it, a speech where she just
gushed and giggled and laughed and told us that what
united us was more than what kept us apart, and
how we should all be together and love each other.
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The rest of it was just an absolute hate trump fest,
and capped off by Joe Biden's absolutely rage filled, hateful
speech in which he just lied a million times.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
I was at a Foxnation.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
We were watching it live and doing a little show afterwards,
and we sort of had this. We didn't actually drink,
but we were joking about having a drinking game for
everyone of the hoaxes that Joe Biden would bring u up,
and sure enough he did them all. You know, it
was shuckers and losers hoax. It was a fine people hoax, which,
as you point out, he did it himself in real life.
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And he never mentioned anything about Israel or October seventh.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
It was just, oh yeah, those those anti.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Semitic gazing protesters outside, those Hamas protesters.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
They have a point.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Follow her on x at Miranda Devine and of course
you can read her work in the New York Post.
I was fascinated too, And it was, of all people,
Chris Wallace who made this point beforehand, but it turned
out to be some foreshadowing about what was to come
on Night one.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Here was his analysis on CNN.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
The word that everybody is using to describe tonight as bettersweet.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It's just better, the fact of the matter.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I'm not saying Joe Biden is better.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
Well, but you know, it's like you've been thrown out
a window and as you're falling, you go, gee, it's
nice out here. No, he got thrown out of window,
and basically he was forced You know, there's going to
be a lot of talk tonight about how generous it
was of him.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And selfless of him.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
He was basically for usd out by Nancy Pelosi and
Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer and Haakim Jeffries, and I
suspect even the fact that there has been this surge
of enthusiasm since he left and Kamala Harris took his place,
that's got to be pretty tough too.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And Mirinda, it was such a surreal scene last night,
unlike anything we've seen in modern politics, where the sitting
president of the United States forced out of a race
basically gives the eulogy at his own funeral on the
Monday night of.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
A convention week.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Nancy Pelosi's in the crowd, halfheartedly giving a thank you
Joe chant, and through all of this he takes off
in a plane right afterward, with Jill Biden there in
California as we speak right now. But what about the
timing of his speech, the fact that they pushed him
all the way back to about eleven thirty pm Eastern time?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Do you think that was by design?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Book, I don't buy this story.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
That was because the applause was, you know, so voluminous
that we got slow.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
I mean, no, they should have.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
They did cut.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
James Taylor actually, but he was already you know, at
least sort of half an hour or more.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
About fifty minutes late.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
And you know, he's an old guy. He has already
told us.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
That he's no good after eight pm, and here he was.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
It was an hour earlier in Chicago, I guess, but
he only just arrived there. And I think it was
incredibly disrespectful and probably deliberate to get him out of
primetime because they want him invisible, and they've given him
the Monday night sort of the dead night where everyone
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will forget about him, and they bundled him off, as
you said, as quickly as possible. He flew out immediately afterwards,
arriving in California at close to three am. He's gone
off to Santa Barbara, to this grand estate of another
billionaire friend of Nancy Pelosi's. And I'm sure that was
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organized so that there wouldn't be any reaction shots of
Joe Biden looking angry and sour as he has to
sit there and just survive the fact that they stole
his job from him, and they want to be as
far away as possible, and Tadler and the rest of
them are going to spend the rest of the week
distancing themselves from Joe Biden's toxic presidency.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Brandon Divine New York Post joining us.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I may have asked you a version of this question before,
but it's in a little bit more of a sharper
focus now.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Joe Biden was asked about kind of why he.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Got out of this race following his speech, and he
said it was to kind of save the down ballot races.
We heard him speak about tying Kamala Harris to his agenda.
She didn't stand up and applaud him the whole time.
I noticed that Whias Tim Walls did exactly that. And
is there something to this playing not to lose by
the Democrats? Mirand in other words, they might be content
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that Kamala Harris probably is not going to beat Donald Trump,
but they want to try to save maybe the Senate
and House races. And why I asked that is because
if they're going to go this far with Joe Biden,
they've thrown him overboard, They've kicked him out after Night
one of the DNC. Why not go that extra yard
have him resign the office of the presidency. Have Kamala
Harris assumed that office and the power of incumbency and
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really have a fighting chance to win. How do you
break that down?
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Well, a couple of things. I think that the bad
blood if they forced Joe Biden out prematurely would be
just so mammous that would damage their electoral prospects, even
though it's ridiculous that he's obviously you know, if he's
not well enough to continue on as the candidate, well,
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he's certainly not well enough to continue for five more
months as the president.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
I mean, he's on holidays all the time. He's barely working.
He's addled most.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Of the time, and so he should be doing that
at a time of great peril in the world. We
need a proper president, not that Kamala Harris is necessarily
a proper president. And there's the problem. I don't think
they want to put Kamala Harris in that job. I mean,
on the one hand, you'd think it might benefit her
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because it would give her a certain gravitas and maybe
sort of crack the cherry of being the first female president.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
But on the other hand, I think.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
It would expose her. She would have to do more
public facing events, and she's terrible at those. I think
their ploy is that they're just going to keep her
hidden away like they did with Joe Biden. And I
think they'll squeeze her through the debate because you know,
she'll probably get the questions because her one of her
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best friends is a senior vice president and ABC and
the Democrats did that before, remember with John of Brazil.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
So they're un score.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
And she's good at memorizing and reading from teleprompters, et cetera.
So she'll probably have a few set piece, you know,
monologues to give for the debate. She'll get through it.
And I think that, you know, expectations are so low
for her in that debate that she'll benefit from that
and everyone will come.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Out and say, oh, she did brilliantly. So I think
she could slip through with never.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Being exposed or scrutinized. The media is not putting any
pressure on that. So why would the Democrats bond Branda?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Final question, and that's about tonight here nine two on
a Tuesday night. Barack Obama going to give a speech
or remains very popular in the Democratic Party. But my
thought is he comes in maybe with some soaring rhetoric.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Last night was very dark, very trump focused, very negative.
I don't know how that's selling the pitch or the
message to those middle of the road voters that are persuadables.
But maybe Barack Obama does that tonight. But the fear
might be, this is my analysis, if he does little
too well, it's going to remind people of what Barack
Obama was past tense and what Kamala Harris certainly is not.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 8 (27:10):
Look in a way, they're quite similar.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
I mean, she doesn't have his soaring rhetoric and his
beautiful voice.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
But you know, she's sort of.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
That attractive package that's sort of identity politics package, and.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
You know, the sort of she has some sort of
charisma in a way.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
I mean, I don't like to say that because I
think she's been just a shocking vice president. But the
Democrats are very good at crafting narratives and creating mythology.
And you can see it unwrapping in front of your
eyes this week, in the last couple of weeks, where
she's sort of transmogrified into this glamorous, joyful professional woman.
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You know, not got too well dressed, but quite nicely dressed.
And I feel like they sort of did that with
Barack Obama as well. So I think that he and
mel aim for him to enhance her. Some of his
gold dust will rub off on her, and you know
that's it doesn't have to be real. I mean, Barack
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Obama was an was a blank slate when he arrived as.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
This first term senator. So I think that they will.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Also make out that her background as a prosecutor is
really substantial.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Follow her on ex am, Miranda Divine, that's dee v
I N E. And of course she writes for The
New York Post. She's the author of Laptop from Hell.
You can find that at Amazon dot com as well. Miranda,
always enjoy our conversations, looking forward to the next one.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Enjoy tonight.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I guess thanks Ryan, great to walk to you again.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Right, Miranda Devine right there, and we'll close out the
show with your thoughts five seven, seven thirty nine. Start
those texts, Ryan valdemarche Letta. Also when we come back
to wind things down here on this Tuesday edition, Ryan
Shuling on six point thirty k help.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And now deep thoughts by Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 10 (29:18):
And that's what our.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Election is about.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
Our election is about understanding the importance of this beautiful
country of ours in terms of what we stand for
around the globe as a democracy. As a democracy, we
know there's a duality to the nature of democracy. On
the one hand, incredible strengths when it is intact what
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it does for its people to protect and defend their rights,
their liberty, and their freedom, incredibly strong and incredibly fragile.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Oh my, this is so deep. I don't you know.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Shakespeare the whole full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
I don't know that I've ever encountered anyone in politics,
you know, the forty plus years I've followed it. Who
uses more words to say absolutely nothing than Kamala.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Harris Those deep thoughts right there.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
One other thing I wanted to get to before we
close out with Valtimore Archall Letta. Of course, you can
find out more Archill Letta for Colorado dot Com his
candidacy as the Republican nominee in the first congressional district.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Find that online.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Was this from a text that said, Ryan, did you
see RFK may join Trump?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yay? Well, let's get to a SoundBite real quick along
those lines.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
You know, there's two options that we're looking at, and
one is staying in forming that new party. But we
run the risk of a Kamala Harris, Kamala Harrison and
Walt's presidency because we draw votes from Trump, where we
draw some how more votes from Trump, or we walk
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away right now and join forces with Donald Trump, and
you know, we walk away from that and we explain
to our base why we're making this decision.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Wow, that is Nicole Shanahan, the vice presidential running mate
of RFK Valdemore, that could be a game changer if
she follows through the fact that she was saying that
publicly at all.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
It is amazing that she says that publicly because I
heard that rumor. Yeah, and it was today, but I
hadn't heard that SoundBite, like I didn't know that their
campaign actually said she said it something like that.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And the thing about ourfk's campaign, I've always supported it.
I think more candidates is good, more choices is good,
more participation that democracy is good. And I think RFK
should be in the race. And I say that knowing
that for whatever reason, in some of these states, and
one of them is my home state of Michigan, RFK
hurts Trump more than he hurts Harris. And I think
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the nature of this race Valdemarre changed when Biden dropped out.
When Biden was in, RFK was like a somewhat younger
not a whole lot younger, but a somewhat younger alternative
to either of the two older candidates.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
He had a lane.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I think with Kamala coming into the race, what he's
evaluating his numbers have gone down somewhat, and Nicole Shanahan
echoes that I don't think he has that Lane anymore.
And if he wants to truly prevent a Kamala Harris presidency,
which I hope he does, and I know that he
wants to, joining forces with Trump is a great way
to go.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I would agree.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I think that would be a very good idea and
a good move for them and kind of the whole
I agree. I think those third parties should have their
voice and they should be listened to. And I feel
like he's made that point, yeah, because he's already been
somebody that people are talking about as a presidential candidate.
So whether he goes through to the end or not,
like he's made that point, and so now'd be a
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good time. And I agree with what you said. What
they did on the Democratic side throwing Biden away and
bringing someone in was like the sneaky trick they did.
It would be a good way to counter that. And
I would love it if you know Donald Trump did
like make some agreement with him that all right, if
you do that. He already kind of promised the libertarians
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that he put a libertarian on the ticket.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Well, it's the art of the deal, right, what Donald
technique to close this deal? Maybe offer the epa chief
position to RFK and promise Nicole Shanahan something that's politics,
get them in the fold, get those votes.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I heard, I heard this, and this this is kind
of just my I'm making these things up, but someone
I even mentioned Donald Trump should make an agreement with.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Even like Tulsi Gabbard. Oh, bring her in, get her
on the campaign trail, if you get her and RFK out.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
There those agates right.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Telsey's helping him with the bait prep coming up, and
Kamala Harris just turned down the Fox News to bake
fo Archillletta, thanks for being in studio and my friend
absolutely archill Letta for Colorado dot Com. Find out more
about his campaign. Dan campls up next. You've been listening
to Ryan Shuling on six point thirty KHU
All right, it's this time of day every day that
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we begin the Mandy Connell postgame Show, and she is
joining us in that capacity along with me Ryan Schuling.
Valdemar Archiletta. He is the GOP candidate in the first
congressional district race against Diana de get Be sure to
find out more about his campaign.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Where can they go, Valdemar go to Archiletta for Colorado
dot com.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
There it is, and he's also the president of the
log Cabin Republicans. And my good friend and Mandy Connell
joins us live from Chicago, site of the Democratic National
Convention in the United Center on Radio Row.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Mandy, welcome back to it.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Hello my friend, and you know I love that Valdemar,
who is also a friend of mine, has that great website.
But could you have a harder to spell last name, Valdemar.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
I'm just I don't know if who's on to me.
I don't think it's that.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Go ahead and spell at Valdemar.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
My first name is probably more difficult.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, I like that because of our ch U l
e t there it is.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Four f are is Okay. That's the information.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So Mandy, like I said, you were joining us during
the break that we had your update for our radio listeners.
It was very meta experience you we're hearing yourself but
coming back live now. I do have a follow up question,
which is, we know we're hearing from Barack Obama tonight.
Is Michelle Obama schedule to speak as well?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Or no?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yes, I believe so now I say that not knowing
for certain, we don't get the final speaker schedule until
like five o'clock in the afternoon. Six o'clock maybe is
because that's when the programming starts they send it out.
Is Michelle on there? Now? Michelle is on the list
that we have for tonight, but we were given a
last list last night. It was not necessarily accurate. But
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what we do see is that Barack Obama is not
supposed to start speaking until ten PM. So if last
night is an indication of what's going to happen tonight,
it could be midnight before this thing gets over Ryan midnight.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Well and building on that point because they think this
is something to watch. There is no way that the
Democrat National Committee allows Barack Obama to veer outside of
the primetime window in the Eastern Times on the way
that they had Joe Biden take the stage at eleven
twenty four pm in the Eastern Times on last night.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Right, Well, I.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Mean, let's be real, there's the theory that mister Briden
took the stage so late just in case, right, like,
just in case the wheels came off. We don't want
him in primetime, but it would be an absolute waste
to have Resident Barack Obama speak outside of primetime because
you know, he's a great speaker, and everybody is super
fired up and ready to hear him. People are starting
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to kind of come into the venue right now. We
just saw Al Sharpton, we saw Jesse Jackson, So people
are starting to come in and get ready for tonight.
And I think that you're right. They don't want him
out of primetime, but Kenny pull it off. Well see,
and I don't mean him, I mean, can they keep
everybody else on schedule because that's clearly what didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh, it was a disaster, and we know that there
was trouble getting into the venue because of the protesters outside,
the security protocols, etc. Mandy Connell, our guest Life from
Chicago and Sight of the DNC. Now I'm going to
give my perspective. I watched most of this. I subjected
myself to it. I don't know why it was torture,
but what I saw was some forced joy, happiness, et cetera.
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And what I heard was a lot of grievances, airing
of grievances Costanza style, fran Costanza constant mentioning and pillaring
of Trump, and not really a focus of what did
the Democrats have in terms of a plan for America
that would sway an undecided voter. Now from the inside, Mandy,
what did you observe along those lines, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Sing Ryan? I mean there was a lot of Obviously,
Trump was the focus of a lot of ir last
night and a lot of attacks on him his policies.
Let's be real, though, you don't come to a convention
to get into a deep policy discussion. Difference here in
this particular convention is that we have so few policy
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positions from the Harris Walls ticket. Right We've got one
little economic policy that came out last Friday, So I've
been asking everybody about that, but we don't have a
lot to go on right now. So I do think
there's a little more pressure to maybe give a little
more information about the actual policies that will be implemented.
But at the same time, this is a love fest,
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just like the RNC was a love fest. It's all
of the Democratic faithful. They're here to see their preferred candidate.
They don't care about policy. They're here to cheer. They're
here to be excited, they're here to feel the vibe.
They're not here to hear a policy discussion about what
we're actually going it. Well, maybe the protesters want to
hear what we're going to know about Israel, but nobody
else does.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Mandy Connell our guest.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Of course, you can hear her on KOA weekdays from
noon to three pm over on our sister station, and
she is live in Chicago. My next question kind of
on that note, Mandy, I've been to both conventions. Now
you're one of the few people that can say that,
and you observed this, and something you and I have
talked about with the Republican convention was when you compare
it to twenty sixteen or even twenty twenty, which there
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wasn't a real convention that point because of COVID, that
the unity of the Republican ticket behind Donald Trump. After
the assassination attempt. Really, everybody on the same page, pulling
in the same direction, to me, is in sharp contrast
with a Democratic Party that really is in turmoil. I
think even by their own admission, they've had to switch
out the top of the ticket candidate Kamala Harris did
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not receive a single vote in the primaries. You got
protesters outside, you got boarded up businesses. There's a lot
of discord within the party, and they're disagreeing on Israel, Gaza, ceasefire,
et cetera. What does the Democrat Party have to do
maybe tonight and through the rest of this convention to
kind of pull it all together or can they Well, I'll.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Be perfectly honest, last night, after Joe Biden left this arena,
he will never be spoken of again. And everyone is
walks up in behind the Harris Walls team. Whatever is
happening outside with the protesters and trying to figure out
a plan for Israel is being summarily ignored inside. Okay,
So when you get into the walls of this place,
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everybody is talking about Kamala Harris. Everyone is excited about
Kamala Harris. There is no division inside this convention. So
it's a little bit difficult to sort of purse out
the individual issues because inside the building everybody is on
the same page. And I have to say they did
that with such breath taking speed that I admire it.
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I admire how do you get everybody to fall in line?
But they have done just that, And I honestly think
it is no matter what your individual beef is or
whatever your individual positions on certain issues is, they're all
so grateful that Joe Biden isn't the candidate that they're
all just looking ahead. Now, forget about what just happened.
We don't need to talk about that ever. Again, we
completely blue democracy out of the water. But we're saving democracy,
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So that's all we're going to talk about. It's a
very focused group of people, and they're all focused on
getting Harris Walls over the finish line.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
It might be focused, and I agree with you on
that take, Mandy, but that they throw Biden overboard just
this feels like a party that's playing not to lose.
In other words, they knew they were going to lose,
probably ye with Joe Biden. And it's not even that
they're singing the praises of Kamala Harris. It's just that
she's not Joe Biden, and they're going to try to
ride this out to the finish line, like you said,
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with no policy positions on the website or articulated at
this convention. The other part of it I want you
to comment on, Mandy, is Joe Biden gives his address.
I thought Joe Biden it was like with Vinegar that
she was giving this praise for Kamala Harris last night.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And then Ashley Biden as well. The Biden's are gone.
They get on a plane, they get on Air Force one,
they go to California. From what I'm hearing in the reporting,
the Obamas are gone after tonight. Bill Clinton speaks tomorrow.
Are they going to stick who's sticking around for Thursday
and the Kamala Harris speech and her coronation.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I have no idea. I have no clue. But do
you think that the reason that Barack Obama is speaking tonight,
at least in part is you want to have a
little separation between Barack Obama the w still wildly popular,
I mean just a wildly popular guy, and he's a
great speaker. So if you have any concerns about being
compared unfavorably. You've got to have that separation, and maybe
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that's why you're not going to see them on Thursday night.
I don't know. I don't know what the thinking is
behind that, but I do know that politics being as
it is, there is a reason, right, There's definitely a reason.
So I am trying to kind of parse out what
that reason to be. And the only thing I could
think of is, if you're trying to say this is
a new guard, the last thing you want is the
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old guard in the audience, reminding people of what was,
even if it was better than what you have now.
Especially if it's better than what you have now, there is.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
That threat of overshadowing the current ticket, and that might
be what they're trying to avoid. Follow her on x
at Mandy Connell, and of course you can hear her
coverage all week long over on KO. She's on live
noon to three pm in the Mountain time zone. Mandy,
thank you so much for your time today. We'll talk
again tomorrow, all right, Ryan, I have a good one,
all right, Mandy Connell, right there, Valdemar. Aren't a lot
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of your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, I think I agree with much of what Mandy said,
And I also am sometimes jealous of the way the
collective on the left just do as they're told, as
they're told, without infighting, without anything to say, all right,
this is what we're gonna do. I had heard someone
make this statement, and I think it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
In the same way.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
On the left, people who are left leaning politically, they
want big government, they want to be taken care of
by the government.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
They feel the same.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Way in politics that they're very much okay with just
the people at the top making the decision and going
along with it, whereas like on the right, where the
Republicans were very much about individuals, and if you take
that individual voice away, we tantrums and we freak out.
And in some ways that's good, because I think you should.
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But at some point I wish we would come together
a little bit. So they're both kind of extremes. You
need to work towards that middle. But I am also
amazed that that happened, and so few people seem to
really care, Like the whole primary didn't matter. Nothing, you
didn't mattered, and they're just and like this basically happened
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
It happened in twenty sixteen, Bernie.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, do you really not care?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And like I said, I wish I could give credit
to who I heard this from. It was on some
podcast or something, maybe it was you. I don't think
you said someone. Maybe someone said it. But it makes
sense to me that they are They like being taken
care of, so even in this political sense, they're okay
with the people at the top making the decisions as
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long as it works, and they see this as a
decision that's gonna work, so they don't care that their
voice was not listened to.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I think that's astute analysis, felled a because I feel
the same thing. And when you put all the pieces
of the puzzle together, you know, I don't like to
pick up my dad, but he's seventy seven years old,
he's got COPD, he's there's a lot of fear, and
he was scared a little bit during COVID. I don't
blame him, and he got you know, all the vaccines
still got it. Paxlovid did a lot more for him
in the aftermath of COVID than I think the shots did,
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that's my opinion. But with a masking too. That's another
thing that the sheep mentality followers on the left. And
I don't say that lightly, but they do. They go
along kind of this is the way we're supposed to
do things.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
We don't think to question it, think to question it.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I mean, this is what I get so frustrated with
when it comes to my own father. He was part
of a baby boomer generation that said, don't trust anybody
over thirty, challenge authority, protest against the Vietnam War, don't
believe everything you're told by the powers that be.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
What happened to the boomers? What happened to the boomers?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh? No, Yeah, being a conformist used to be a
bad thing.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
He used to call people that to insult.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Then now it's like it's almost like they take pride
in that. Now, Yes I'm a conformist. I do what
I'm told. Oh to say it like that, But they
feel that.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Way, like rage against the machine is now rage for
the machine.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
You better do what you'reitating wear you get your shot.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I don't understand. This does not make sense to me.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Wait, we are like we are the new rebels, the
punk rock it's on our side. Is the libertarian kind
of right of center mentality, Like you just said Valdemar's
we're the ones that are saying, no blank you, I'm
gonna make up my own mind.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I do hope that I I and in talking to
young people around Denver and in my in my district,
I will say this, when I speak to someone who's
a gen Zer, when they look at me, I can
tell they're listening, and that is very It gives me
hope because I can see them looking at what I'm
saying and they're listening to it. And I had talked
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to one gen Zer once and I asked, how do
I speak better? How do I better approach gen Z?
And They're like, just be honest with them. They get
so much crap thrown at them. For someone to come
out and just say something that's real and honest, they'll listen.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
And I found that to be true.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
So I do hope that this younger generation will see
us as we are the new counter culture.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
We are the cool kids.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We're the ones rebelling against authority, and I think that
is still almost in human nature, that is the cool
thing to do. I don't know what happened with some
of the other there is that one group of people
that did seem like now the young people were all conforming,
but I think that's changing now that I think the
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younger generation, who are in their early twenties late teens,
are ready to rebel against And I don't mean that
like in any violent way or anything, but you know,
just go against what authority is doing because it's obviously
not working. Prices are going up, they're not going to
be able to afford a home. Renting's going up. No
one can live on their own. They must have like
ten roommates to exist, exactly. I don't want to do that,
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and so it's time to stand up to that and
do something different.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Think about what gen Z has been through. These younger
people had at least one, if not two, of their
high school years taken away from them. They had to
stay home, they had to do zoom classes, they couldn't participate.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
In sports or prom.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And some of these same students had their college graduation
just taken away because of these mindless pro Hamas protesters,
let's stay on the campus of USC and I believe you, Valdemar.
I think there's a gen Z Republican revolution that is
possible out there, because what are we encouraging. Think for yourself,
don't believe what we're telling you. Just to face value
because we're telling you it. Do your own research, make
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up your own minds. Give them that freedom that they
feel empowered finally, rather than being dictated to. And this
is the whole theme for the show today with Valdimarre
Archoletta in studio, is that the Democrats want to constrain people,
have them obey, have them fall in line Valdemar's day,
so he has to be a Democrat. Stay in your silo, Valdimar,
stay you're laying. Don't take for yourself because that makes
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you dangerous. That is that's the attitude you get. And like,
I was talking to a couple the other day and
they were a young couple. I'm I even feel weird
calling him a couple. They're like twenty, but anyway, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Old, like, you can't be a couple. You are too young.
You are too young to be a couple. But anyway,
the girl and the two of them, a young woman.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
She was.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
She was respectful, but she was very kind of confrontational.
And the question she was asking the young man there
said nothing but looking at his face, I can tell
everything I was saying. He was thinking about it. I'm
not going to get through to her, but with him,
he was thinking about everything I said. And I've noticed
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that another thing other places as well. I mentioned going
to talk to Democrats. I was at another festival and
I went to the Democrat booth because they were there,
and the older man there. He was being very calmfrontational
with me. But there was a young girl there who's
like nineteen and same thing. She wasn't really saying anything,
but I can tell everything I was saying. She was
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listening to me and she was thinking about it. And
later I was talking to someone else. They're like, why
were you talking to them for so long? And I
was like, if it was just him by himself, I
would have just said, you know, good day, thank you,
and leaving or whatever. But because she was there, I'm like,
you don't know what you're going to say that's going
to get through, that's going to give them cause to
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question things and what may be the one thing that
changes their mind about their political leanings or their political
view of the world.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
So we do.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's hugely important that we go into these places where
it may be uncomfortable and we have these conversations because
you never know who you're going to reach. And I
do have hope with our younger generation. I know a
lot of times as older conservatives like to talk about
the crazy kids and the things they're doing, but I
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do have hope for them. And even in Denver, I
have hope and that I've seen in like our past
municipal election, in our past primary this past June, the
more radicals on the left were voted out. So in
Elizabeth Apps, Yeah, Tim Hernandos sat craziness either.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
So Valdimore Archiletta our guest in studio for the full
show today. You can find out more about his campaign
in the first Congressional District at Archiletta for Colorado dot Com.
Coming up next, Miranda Devine, New York Post, All Things Biden.
She is, of course, the author of Laptop from Hell
and a feature writer columnist for The New York Post.
Interested to get her thoughts on the DNC. When we
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come back after this stick and stay to six point
thirty k out.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
And finally finally finally deliver a cease firing and this war.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Us those protesters out in the street, they have a point.
A lot of innocent people are being killed on both sides.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh oh, so Joe Biden is going to say there
are good people on both sides?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Is he now?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
And do they do the Prohomas protesters really have a
good point? Do they make a good point out there
calling for the end of Israel? My god, man, Ryan
shooling back with you six point thirty k how and
joining us now? I think she would agree that Joe
Biden made about as much sense as a stunned mullet
last night. She's with the New York Post and she
(18:36):
is Miranda Devine, Miranda, welcome back.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Hi, Ryan, great to be with you. You what a
terrible work.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
You see what I did there? Though?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That reference that you dropped on me about a month ago,
I brought it back. You have good memory and it'll
always stick with me. I'll never forget it. But yeah,
build on that what you watched last night, Miranda. We've
been told, we've been assured by the Democratic Party that
this was going to be a convention of joy. They
were going to spread all kinds of joy everywhere. We're
going to be basking and bathing in the joy. Was
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there joy last night?
Speaker 7 (19:09):
It was actually the opposite, Ryan, apart from the little
One and a half minute speech that Kamala Harris gave,
as you can call it, a speech where she just
gushed and giggled and laughed and told us that what
united us was more than what kept us apart, and
how we should all be together and love each other.
(19:30):
The rest of it was just an absolute hate trump fest,
and capped off by Joe Biden's absolutely rage filled, hateful
speech in which he just lied a million times.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
I was at a Foxnation.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
We were watching it live and doing a little show afterwards,
and we sort of had this. We didn't actually drink,
but we were joking about having a drinking game for
everyone of the hoaxes that Joe Biden would bring u up,
and sure enough he did them all. You know, it
was shuckers and losers hoax. It was a fine people hoax, which,
as you point out, he did it himself in real life.
(20:10):
And he never mentioned anything about Israel or October seventh.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
It was just, oh yeah, those those anti.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Semitic gazing protesters outside, those Hamas protesters.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
They have a point.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Follow her on x at Miranda Devine and of course
you can read her work in the New York Post.
I was fascinated too, And it was, of all people,
Chris Wallace who made this point beforehand, but it turned
out to be some foreshadowing about what was to come
on Night one.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Here was his analysis on CNN.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
The word that everybody is using to describe tonight as bettersweet.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It's just better, the fact of the matter.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I'm not saying Joe Biden is better.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
Well, but you know, it's like you've been thrown out
a window and as you're falling, you go, gee, it's
nice out here. No, he got thrown out of window,
and basically he was forced You know, there's going to
be a lot of talk tonight about how generous it
was of him.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And selfless of him.
Speaker 9 (21:07):
He was basically for usd out by Nancy Pelosi and
Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer and Haakim Jeffries, and I
suspect even the fact that there has been this surge
of enthusiasm since he left and Kamala Harris took his place,
that's got to be pretty tough too.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
And Mirinda, it was such a surreal scene last night,
unlike anything we've seen in modern politics, where the sitting
president of the United States forced out of a race
basically gives the eulogy at his own funeral on the
Monday night of.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
A convention week.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Nancy Pelosi's in the crowd, halfheartedly giving a thank you
Joe chant, and through all of this he takes off
in a plane right afterward, with Jill Biden there in
California as we speak right now. But what about the
timing of his speech, the fact that they pushed him
all the way back to about eleven thirty pm Eastern time?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Do you think that was by design?
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Book, I don't buy this story.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
That was because the applause was, you know, so voluminous
that we got slow.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
I mean, no, they should have.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
They did cut.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
James Taylor actually, but he was already you know, at
least sort of half an hour or more.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
About fifty minutes late.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
And you know, he's an old guy. He has already
told us.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
That he's no good after eight pm, and here he was.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
It was an hour earlier in Chicago, I guess, but
he only just arrived there. And I think it was
incredibly disrespectful and probably deliberate to get him out of
primetime because they want him invisible, and they've given him
the Monday night sort of the dead night where everyone
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will forget about him, and they bundled him off, as
you said, as quickly as possible. He flew out immediately afterwards,
arriving in California at close to three am. He's gone
off to Santa Barbara, to this grand estate of another
billionaire friend of Nancy Pelosi's. And I'm sure that was
(23:05):
organized so that there wouldn't be any reaction shots of
Joe Biden looking angry and sour as he has to
sit there and just survive the fact that they stole
his job from him, and they want to be as
far away as possible, and Tadler and the rest of
them are going to spend the rest of the week
distancing themselves from Joe Biden's toxic presidency.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Brandon Divine New York Post joining us.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I may have asked you a version of this question before,
but it's in a little bit more of a sharper
focus now.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Joe Biden was asked about kind of why he.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Got out of this race following his speech, and he
said it was to kind of save the down ballot races.
We heard him speak about tying Kamala Harris to his agenda.
She didn't stand up and applaud him the whole time.
I noticed that Whias Tim Walls did exactly that. And
is there something to this playing not to lose by
the Democrats? Mirand in other words, they might be content
(24:00):
that Kamala Harris probably is not going to beat Donald Trump,
but they want to try to save maybe the Senate
and House races. And why I asked that is because
if they're going to go this far with Joe Biden,
they've thrown him overboard, They've kicked him out after Night
one of the DNC. Why not go that extra yard
have him resign the office of the presidency. Have Kamala
Harris assumed that office and the power of incumbency and
(24:21):
really have a fighting chance to win. How do you
break that down?
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Well, a couple of things. I think that the bad
blood if they forced Joe Biden out prematurely would be
just so mammous that would damage their electoral prospects, even
though it's ridiculous that he's obviously you know, if he's
not well enough to continue on as the candidate, well,
(24:47):
he's certainly not well enough to continue for five more
months as the president.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
I mean, he's on holidays all the time. He's barely working.
He's addled most.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Of the time, and so he should be doing that
at a time of great peril in the world. We
need a proper president, not that Kamala Harris is necessarily
a proper president. And there's the problem. I don't think
they want to put Kamala Harris in that job. I mean,
on the one hand, you'd think it might benefit her
(25:18):
because it would give her a certain gravitas and maybe
sort of crack the cherry of being the first female president.
Speaker 8 (25:28):
But on the other hand, I think.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
It would expose her. She would have to do more
public facing events, and she's terrible at those. I think
their ploy is that they're just going to keep her
hidden away like they did with Joe Biden. And I
think they'll squeeze her through the debate because you know,
she'll probably get the questions because her one of her
(25:52):
best friends is a senior vice president and ABC and
the Democrats did that before, remember with John of Brazil.
Speaker 8 (25:59):
So they're un score.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
And she's good at memorizing and reading from teleprompters, et cetera.
So she'll probably have a few set piece, you know,
monologues to give for the debate. She'll get through it.
And I think that, you know, expectations are so low
for her in that debate that she'll benefit from that
and everyone will come.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Out and say, oh, she did brilliantly. So I think
she could slip through with never.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Being exposed or scrutinized. The media is not putting any
pressure on that. So why would the Democrats bond Branda?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Final question, and that's about tonight here nine two on
a Tuesday night. Barack Obama going to give a speech
or remains very popular in the Democratic Party. But my
thought is he comes in maybe with some soaring rhetoric.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Last night was very dark, very trump focused, very negative.
I don't know how that's selling the pitch or the
message to those middle of the road voters that are persuadables.
But maybe Barack Obama does that tonight. But the fear
might be, this is my analysis, if he does little
too well, it's going to remind people of what Barack
Obama was past tense and what Kamala Harris certainly is not.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 8 (27:10):
Look in a way, they're quite similar.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
I mean, she doesn't have his soaring rhetoric and his
beautiful voice.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
But you know, she's sort of.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
That attractive package that's sort of identity politics package, and.
Speaker 8 (27:29):
You know, the sort of she has some sort of
charisma in a way.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
I mean, I don't like to say that because I
think she's been just a shocking vice president. But the
Democrats are very good at crafting narratives and creating mythology.
And you can see it unwrapping in front of your
eyes this week, in the last couple of weeks, where
she's sort of transmogrified into this glamorous, joyful professional woman.
(27:59):
You know, not got too well dressed, but quite nicely dressed.
And I feel like they sort of did that with
Barack Obama as well. So I think that he and
mel aim for him to enhance her. Some of his
gold dust will rub off on her, and you know
that's it doesn't have to be real. I mean, Barack
(28:20):
Obama was an was a blank slate when he arrived as.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
This first term senator. So I think that they will.
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Also make out that her background as a prosecutor is
really substantial.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Follow her on ex am, Miranda Divine, that's dee v
I N E. And of course she writes for The
New York Post. She's the author of Laptop from Hell.
You can find that at Amazon dot com as well. Miranda,
always enjoy our conversations, looking forward to the next one.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Enjoy tonight.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I guess thanks Ryan, great to walk to you again.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Right, Miranda Devine right there, and we'll close out the
show with your thoughts five seven, seven thirty nine. Start
those texts, Ryan valdemarche Letta. Also when we come back
to wind things down here on this Tuesday edition, Ryan
Shuling on six point thirty k help.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And now deep thoughts by Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 10 (29:18):
And that's what our.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Election is about.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
Our election is about understanding the importance of this beautiful
country of ours in terms of what we stand for
around the globe as a democracy. As a democracy, we
know there's a duality to the nature of democracy. On
the one hand, incredible strengths when it is intact what
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it does for its people to protect and defend their rights,
their liberty, and their freedom, incredibly strong and incredibly fragile.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Oh my, this is so deep. I don't you know.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Shakespeare the whole full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
I don't know that I've ever encountered anyone in politics,
you know, the forty plus years I've followed it. Who
uses more words to say absolutely nothing than Kamala.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Harris Those deep thoughts right there.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
One other thing I wanted to get to before we
close out with Valtimore Archall Letta. Of course, you can
find out more Archill Letta for Colorado dot Com his
candidacy as the Republican nominee in the first congressional district.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Find that online.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Was this from a text that said, Ryan, did you
see RFK may join Trump?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yay? Well, let's get to a SoundBite real quick along
those lines.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
You know, there's two options that we're looking at, and
one is staying in forming that new party. But we
run the risk of a Kamala Harris, Kamala Harrison and
Walt's presidency because we draw votes from Trump, where we
draw some how more votes from Trump, or we walk
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away right now and join forces with Donald Trump, and
you know, we walk away from that and we explain
to our base why we're making this decision.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Wow, that is Nicole Shanahan, the vice presidential running mate
of RFK Valdemore, that could be a game changer if
she follows through the fact that she was saying that
publicly at all.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
It is amazing that she says that publicly because I
heard that rumor. Yeah, and it was today, but I
hadn't heard that SoundBite, like I didn't know that their
campaign actually said she said it something like that.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
And the thing about ourfk's campaign, I've always supported it.
I think more candidates is good, more choices is good,
more participation that democracy is good. And I think RFK
should be in the race. And I say that knowing
that for whatever reason, in some of these states, and
one of them is my home state of Michigan, RFK
hurts Trump more than he hurts Harris. And I think
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the nature of this race Valdemarre changed when Biden dropped out.
When Biden was in, RFK was like a somewhat younger
not a whole lot younger, but a somewhat younger alternative
to either of the two older candidates.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
He had a lane.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I think with Kamala coming into the race, what he's
evaluating his numbers have gone down somewhat, and Nicole Shanahan
echoes that I don't think he has that Lane anymore.
And if he wants to truly prevent a Kamala Harris presidency,
which I hope he does, and I know that he
wants to, joining forces with Trump is a great way
to go.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I would agree.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I think that would be a very good idea and
a good move for them and kind of the whole
I agree. I think those third parties should have their
voice and they should be listened to. And I feel
like he's made that point, yeah, because he's already been
somebody that people are talking about as a presidential candidate.
So whether he goes through to the end or not,
like he's made that point, and so now'd be a
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good time. And I agree with what you said. What
they did on the Democratic side throwing Biden away and
bringing someone in was like the sneaky trick they did.
It would be a good way to counter that. And
I would love it if you know Donald Trump did
like make some agreement with him that all right, if
you do that. He already kind of promised the libertarians
(33:20):
that he put a libertarian on the ticket.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Well, it's the art of the deal, right, what Donald
technique to close this deal? Maybe offer the epa chief
position to RFK and promise Nicole Shanahan something that's politics,
get them in the fold, get those votes.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I heard, I heard this, and this this is kind
of just my I'm making these things up, but someone
I even mentioned Donald Trump should make an agreement with.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Even like Tulsi Gabbard. Oh, bring her in, get her
on the campaign trail, if you get her and RFK out.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
There those agates right.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Telsey's helping him with the bait prep coming up, and
Kamala Harris just turned down the Fox News to bake
fo Archillletta, thanks for being in studio and my friend
absolutely archill Letta for Colorado dot Com. Find out more
about his campaign. Dan campls up next. You've been listening
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