Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
No one gives a ship anymore in a Democratic Party?
What gender you are? What race y'all? What ethnicity you are?
They just want to win and if they are going
and I really believe this is firmeating deep in a
Democratic consciousness.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We're not here to make history.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
We're here to make a win, and whatever we have
to do to win this freaking election, we're going to
do that.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Is that true?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
That's James Carville the rage in Cajun. Of course, it's
the economy stupid.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
He knew how to win elections.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
He was a tremendous advisor for Bill Clinton in the
nineteen ninety two campaign and throughout his presidency.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
But is he wish casting? Is he trying to speak
this into existence?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I don't have any doubt that James Carville himself believes
that nobody gives a blank anymore in the Democratic Party.
What gender, race, ethnicity you are?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
What they do? They really do?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
You might, James, and you might wish that the Democratic
Party didn't, but they do. That's just the simple fact
of the matter. You have the thought leaders and I
use that term very derisively and intentionally, with that kind
of irony.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
They aoc. It's Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Just hear what they say, and it's it's all DEI
all the time, and they're they're doubling down, tripling down
on it. They don't just.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Want to win, and they might be wise to take.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
James Carvill's advice, but I don't think there's any indication
that they are.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
He continues, and yes there's more vulgarity.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's one candidate that has the best chance to win.
For God's sake, us rally behind this candidate. If it's
a Mayo, ust rally behind that, if whatever it is.
The most important criteria.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Is to win the election.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Nothing but nothing else counts.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well, again, he's not wrong, but that's not where the
Democratic Party is, James. They've left you behind, they've left
Bill Maher behind.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well, maybe they can turn to AOC.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Maybe she's got kind of a finger on the pulse,
like I said, thought leader of the party.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And this has kind of been the refrain.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Today, Trump put out a post I might add for
all to see on true social it's a good time
to buy stocks. Remember that that was early yesterday. Then
subsequently he announced that he was putting a ninety day
pause on tariffs against everybody except China, but AOC and
(02:37):
several other really bright bulb Democrats suggest this is insider trading.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Trump seems to be doing, you know, from tweeting people
to buystock and then later announcing his development on taxes.
If people are pissed about insider trading here at the House,
look at what's happening at the White House right now
and with the Republican Party at Do you.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Think he knew what he was doing when he said
that message of bell bike stocks before he made the announcement.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It sure seemed like he did.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I don't think that it was a coincidence. I don't
think that Trump just coincidentally said by stocks and then
shortly later made an announcement that dramatically inflated and dramatically
raised a lot of these asset prices.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
If it were insider trading, AOC, that secret would have
been kept in house. Martha Stewart was busted for insider trading.
She didn't put out a tweet hours before she conducted
the transaction to tell everybody else to do the transaction.
That's the exact opposite of insider trading. That'd be outsider trading.
I guess did Nancy Pelosi share her husband's stock tips
(03:51):
before making purchases with inside knowledge within the walls of Congress.
This is actually a topic where there is some agreement
between somebody like myself and AOC. She's against that insider
trading within Congress, but she's just flat out getting the
definition wrong here. If Donald Trump was engaged in insider trading,
you would have told all these croadines and pals and
(04:12):
members of it administry, Hey, look, i'm.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Gonna do this announcement coming up. Okay, maybe one pm
Eastern there to ninety days. I'm gonna put a pause
on terror, so you know what to do. Go and
buy the stocks and thing. You know, it's a good
time to buy secretly behind closed doors. Not let anybody
else know.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Hey, put it out on true social or everybody and
anybody could see it and react to it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
If you saw that true.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Social pust she went, hmmm, maybe DJT is trying to
tell me something. I'm gonna go ahead and do that.
Then you would have benefited from it. This is not
insider trading.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You loan.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Good this gracious And this goes back to the James
Carville point. Okay, they want to win elections? Are you
gonna do that with AOC? Is she a better option
than Chuck Schumer? She seems to be leading and polling
for if she were to primary Chuck Schumer. Not Chuck
Schumer's no great shakes. I mean, he's a fool, But
AOC it can always get worse, and that would be
(05:11):
worse for New Yorkers and for America. Really, and believe me,
that's no endorsement of Chuck Schumer. But the Democratic Party
has lost itself and you only have to go back.
This is a brilliant monologue along for the Pride from
Bill Maher. Again, no conservative, and this is what he
had to say initially about trans as a social contagent,
(05:34):
because you cannot deny there is not biological evidence that
would suggest suddenly there are more trans people, and specifically
they would only be in large numbers in the coastal
liberal elite cities that are bright bright blue on the
left and right coasts of America, but not inland, not
within Middle America. It doesn't make sense biologically, mathematically, social anything.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Look, there's always.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
A middle ground, That's what I'm always trying to find. Now,
is there such a thing as trans. Of course, there
are sometimes people who are let's just say, this is
a mix up at the factory m hm, and you
don't feel in your head the way you do in
your body. But some of this is also just a
TikTok challenge that got out of hands. Some of it
(06:23):
is just social contagion and is trendy, and we should
recognize both.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
He's right now about trendy.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I think it has become not only more socially acceptable
to come out and be trans, but because of this
transhausen by proxy as I call it, and it's always
We talked to Aaron Lee about this in her experience,
and she's got a lot of experience in this, having
gone through it with her own daughter in the Pwoter schools.
Watch the movie Art Club. It's on YouTube. It's also online.
(06:50):
You can find it. Her daughter was invited into a
so called art club and her false pretenses. It wasn't
an art club, it was an LGBTQ recruitment inductor nation club,
and she was indoctrinated within a matter of hours questioning
her own sexuality because she was right at that adolescent
age twelve somewhere in there where you're starting puberty, and
you're very confused, and you don't know what's happened to
(07:12):
your body, and you hate it and you're embarrassed and
all these things. Well, here's your off ramp. Just be trans,
be the opposite gender. You don't have to worry about it. Well,
you have a lot to worry about. That is filling
a kid's head with lies and confusion, intentionally intentionally confusing
them for manipulation and control and power over these young minds.
(07:34):
It is a deep dark place where the far left
is going on this issue. Here's Bill Maher with the
open to his monologue Along for the Pride on his
program that airs on HBO and.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
Finally knew all if something about the human race is
changing at a previously unprecedented rate, we have to at
least discuss it.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Broken down over time.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
The LGBT population of America seems to be rough lee
doubling every generation. According to a recent Gallup poll, less
than one percent of Americans born before nineteen forty six,
that's Joe Biden's.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Generation, identify that way.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Two point six percent of boomers do, four point two
percent of Gen X, ten point five percent of millennials,
and twenty point eight percent of gen Z, which means
if we follow this trajectory, we will all be gay
in twenty fifty four.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yes, that is mathematically correct of following the trends in
the statistics.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Important point made by mar right here as well.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
And it's okay to ask questions about something that's very
new and involves children. The answer can't always be that
anyone from a marginalized community is automatically right. Trump card
might drop end of discussion because we're literally experimenting on children.
Maybe that's why Sweden and Finland have stopped giving pubity
blockers to kids, because we just don't know much about
(09:01):
the long term effects. Although common sense should tell you
that when you reverse the course of raging hormones there's
going to be problems, we do know it hinders the
development of bone density, which is kind of important if
you like having a skeleton. Fertility and the ability to
(09:22):
have an orgasm seem also to be affected. This isn't
just a lifestyle decision, it's medical weighing trade offs is
not bigotry.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
He mentioned Sweden and Finland banning the procedure puberty blockers, etc.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
For minors.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
This is exactly what they're trying to ramrod through the
Colorado General Assembly right now, by the way, And it's
not just Sweden and Finland, which in many ways socioeconomically
is to the left of the United States. The United
Kingdom is also put in an interminent ban on puberty
blockers for youth because they just don't know. There isn't
(09:58):
studied case evidence on the effects of these so called
gender affirming treatments for young people in the long term effects.
So they've been banned in the UK as well, banned
in Finland, banned in Sweden, banned in the United Kingdom.
But we're going to green light them here in Colorado,
and we're going to make Colorado a sanctuary for children
(10:21):
from all over the country to be maimed and abused
and disfigured and reoriented here in Colorado and have Colorado
taxpayer dollars fund those procedures.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
How about no Bill maher with Moore Yet.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
When a book questioning the sudden uptick in transitioning children
was released, a trans lawyer with the ACLU named Chase
Strangio tweeted, stopping the circulation of this book and these
ideas is one hundred percent a hill I will die
on how.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Very civil liberties of him.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Case, by the way, has just been named one of
the grand Marshals of this year's New York City Pride March,
along with three other trends people and a lesbian.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
Huh, what's missing here? Oh right, a gay man. That's
where we are now.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
Gay men aren't hip enough to the gay Pride parade
compared to trans gay is practically sis, and sis is
practically Mormon.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
This is the bizarro world that we live in. If
you're a gay man, you're kind of, you know, part
of the establishment. At this point, you know you're not.
It isn't hip. It's not a counter culture anymore to
be a gay man. Bill Maher continues in this monologue.
He says the following that some of this might be
that in year twenty twenty five, compared to one hundred
(11:51):
years ago, let's say that more people are free to
open up to pollsters about being LGBTQ.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And there's absolutely truth to that.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
But some of this, it cannot be denied, is part
of a teen rebellion, and it's a rebellion that's being
embraced and encouraged by those who are in positions of
power and influence over a young person's academic experience. Not
only is it okay, but you know you're actually gonna
get preferential treatment. You're gonna be special. You're gonna be
viewed as somebody who has something to say and should
(12:20):
be more valued because you identify as this marginalized group.
Because you can claim some level of victimhood status, people
can feel sorry for you. I mean, this is fueling
narcissism that may or may not already be present in
an individual. We all have some We all like to
have our egos fed and be told what we want
to hear. We all like to be affirmed and told
that we're special and good. But this is a far
(12:43):
cry from mister Rogers Neighborhood, where Fred Rodgers told children
you are special as you are, exactly as God made
you don't have to change. But now it's inviting that
change of gender as a way of standing out, as
a way of being proud and loud about who you are.
And this is to me the kill shot for Bill
(13:05):
Maher when he cites going to a dinner party in
la and how much different that might be than going
to a similar gathering in the American Midwest.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
If you attend a small dinner party of typically very liberal,
upper income Angelinos, it is not uncommon to hear parents
who each have a trans kid having a conversation about that.
What are the odds of that happening in Youngstown, Ohio?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yes, if this.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Spike in trans children is all natural, why is it regional?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yep? Either Ohio is shaming.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
Them or California is creating them.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's California, It's New York. And no more evidence of
that needs to be presented than this. Cynthia Nixon, formerly
of Sex and the City, just listen to this and
the sheer mathematical improbability.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Of it all.
Speaker 10 (13:58):
Most importantly, I am here today as the mother of
a proud transman. I am here today as the aunt
of a proud transman.
Speaker 11 (14:08):
My best friend's kid is friends and my best friend
is trans. My wife and I are arrives aren't filled
with the most amazing, beautiful, brave trans people, young and old,
but especially young.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
My friends kid had his.
Speaker 10 (14:29):
Top surgery at NYU a number of years ago, and
his doctors were fantastic. His surgeon was the best we
could have imagined. And the idea that the city is
filled with young people who thought they had a place
(14:49):
to go where they could receive the highest care, and
that place.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Has now been shut to them.
Speaker 12 (14:55):
Sickens me.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Sickens me.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
To my poin from a ne Benning, who we heard
on this program a couple of months ago, I think
it was just bragging about how much more interesting her
life is having a trans child. It should not be
about the adult or the parent. This is what I
mean by Transhausen by proxy. These children have become like
badges of honor or trophies for these adults. Cynthia Nixon
(15:19):
saying that they have a trans son, she's the aunt
of a trans man, meaning her sister has a also
has a trans son, that her best friend's kid is trans,
that her kid's best friend is trans. Do you know
again the mathematical probability against that simply happening randomly. This
is a social contagion. There is no other explanation for it.
(15:41):
And it is happening in much more frequently on the
coastal liberal elite. The types of gatherings and where this
is socially acceptable and in fact encouraged and embraced, And
this is where Bill Maher makes the final point, it's.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Like that day we suddenly all needed bottled water all
the time. If we can't admit that in certain enclaves
there is some level of trendiness to the idea of
being anything other than straight, then this is not a
serious science based discussion. It's a blow being struck in
the culture wars using children as canon fodder.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I don't understand parents.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Who won't let their nine year old walk to the
corner without a helmet, an EpiPen and a GPS tracker,
and god forbid there let's touch dairy. But hormone blockers
and genital surgery, fine, talk about a nut allergy.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
And again, going back to the Cynthoniya Nixon points, she
was kind of trailing on there toward the end about
how they had shuddered this particular clinic where her trans
son had had top surgery, etc. If it's so great,
then why is it being shut down in Finland, Sweden
and Great Britain. These countries I think have arrived at
(17:02):
a conclusion sooner than we have, which is unusual because
we tend to be a more puritanical society when it
comes to matters like this. But we're backwards and behind
the times on this. If there are European countries that
are outlawing the gender reassignment surgery for children, the hormone therapy,
the puberty blockers, because they just don't know. There's not
the scientific evidence one that they work, that it results
(17:26):
in any kind of happiness sustainable for these young people,
and two that there aren't long term lasting health effects
associated with this. That scientific evidence does not exist. Yet
the Cynthia Nixons of the world continue to use their
children as trophies.
Speaker 12 (17:46):
This is not about tariffs anymore. Nobody has taken on
China yet, not the Europeans, no administration for decades. As
someone who actually does business there, I've had enough. I
speak for millions of Americans who have ip that have
been stolen by the Chinese. I have nothing against the
Chinese people. They've brought great literacy, art, and tech to
(18:11):
the world. The government cheats and steals, and finally an administration.
You may not like Trump, you may not like your
style or his rhetoric. Finally an administration that puts up
and says enough.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
That's Kevin O'Leary making those remarks on CNN the other night,
and the terrorists remaining in place and in fact increasing
from President Trump against China to the level of one
hundred and twenty five percent, and where it goes from
here remains to be seen. But joining us, he is
the author of some future day how AI is going
(18:46):
to change everything, and it already is in many ways.
Mark Beckman our guest here on Ryan Schuling Live. Mark,
Welcome to the program. Ill am, Yes, Mark, you're live
on the air with Ryan Schuling.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Hey, Ryan, good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
How are you doing all right? And looking for guidance
from you?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
And you wrote the book on it, literally about how
AI is going to change everything, So give us your
take on these tariffs against China, their place in the
Ai Revolution, and how much of it might have been
pirated from American ingenuity.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Sure. So it's a great topic. Actually, it's something that
I love talking about, and unfortunately most people sitting on
your side of the interview haven't really landed on it yet.
So thank you for giving me the opportunity. Ryan. It
means a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Sure we are.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Let's make no mistake about it. First, your audience should
understand that we are in an AI war with China,
and that war is coming to life across multiple areas. First,
it relates to intellectual property, and I'm sure a lot
of people heard about Deep Seek and artificial intelligence vertical
(19:54):
that China or a Chinese entity launched a few months back,
which quickly raced a number one as the most downloaded
app on the Apple Store. Over two million Americans downloaded it.
And the American version of this this LLM is called
chat GPT, and the founder of Sam Altman argued that
(20:18):
the Deep Sikh team, the Chinese team, actually went in
and stole the corpus of information that was used and
literally it's spent.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They spent billions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
But that was used by the American team to train
their to train their platform, to train chat EPTEAM. So
that's the first issue. The next issue that I want
to raise, as it relates to the AI war, is
just fundamentally where we're heading and what could happen. So,
for example, the idea of information wars and propaganda is important.
(20:52):
So just this week Reuter's reported, I don't know if
you've heard about it, Ryan, but Reuter's reported that China
is using generative AI to create an anti American information
campaign an anti capitalistic, anti democratic campaign in Taiwan generated
from the Chinese government. So they're using that in the
(21:13):
form of stories that are coming to life in television, video,
in print, in written articles and photorealistic images. And then finally,
I think it's worth noting. And then I'm gonna let
you talk, Ryan, I promised you, but it's just I
get excited.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But I love it. I think finally it's.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Worth noting what's going on with regards to artificial intelligence
and drones.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Think in terms of warfare.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
So obviously we're in a situation today where I write
about this in my book, Actually warfare or the nature
of it, is going to change.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I call it the post nuclear period.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
And what's happening is with the advent of drones, we
have a lot more there are a lot more efficiencies.
These drones could be built at a lesser cost than
a lot of the weapons that we have a and
can be built in a much shorter period of time.
And what China has done is they've taken the lead
American companies that were innovating in the space. They took
(22:11):
they happened to be manufacturing their items. The American companies
were manufacturing in China and a Chinese company. I think
it's called Dji. You can take a look at it.
There's the number one drone company on the planet today.
But they took American ingenuity, our ideas they learned of
it because they were building over in China, and they've
brought their drones into the American marketplace and undercut our prices.
(22:33):
So for a fraction consumers were able to then use drones,
get access to drones a fraction of the cost of
the American brand. Now that is going to translate into
hardware as it relates to military and weapons. Think in
terms of autonomous vehicles in the air like catfighters, autonomous
(22:54):
vehicles in the sea like speedboats that can attack, and beyond.
So we're really looking at a different type of landscape
with regards to artificial intelligence. I'll let you weigh in,
but keep in mind is going to be impacted at
the compute level too, with infrastructural concern course of the tariffs.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, and the overarching concerns. The book Some Future Day
How AI is going to change everything. It's available hardcover,
Amazon dot Com. The author joins us Mark Beckman, great information, Mark,
But that is that a lot of this resembles kind
of the Wild West, and that the United States is
basically waging this war with one arm time behind its back.
Because when it comes to intellectual property, you touched on
(23:36):
that proprietary information, copyrighted information, patents, et cetera. It seems
that China has no regard for that. They don't play
by anybody's rules but their own, and they're not accountable
for it, and they haven't been until or unless, maybe
you include these one hundred and twenty five percent tariffs
that President Trump is using kind of as a cudgel
against China. But they were kind of free and clear
(23:57):
to do whatever they wanted without consequence. And in fact,
we as Americans, both as consumers and his businesses, are
addicted to cheap Chinese products and labor that we're able
to get that we can't manufacture here. So where's the
path forward from here?
Speaker 5 (24:12):
That's right, total disregard, and honestly, I think the President
Trump did a masterful job with regards to putting the
entire globe on notice that it's time to show up. Look, people,
Americans are funny. The world is funny. We're living in
a time period right now where people want immediate results.
They want immediate returns. Last week, when President Trump made
(24:35):
the announcement, everyone went wild, including the media. The stock
market went wild, pundits went crazy. But the reality is
now he has seventy five countries that have come to
him to renegotiate. And it's not just about tariffs. It's
not just about on shoring jobs. But we're also going
to have positive impact with regards to different geopolitical issues.
(24:57):
That's great, but in the short term there are are
some concerns. So, for example, it's interesting on the topic
of tariffs and AI specifically Ryan a lot of compute
goes into AI. We need to build out these hyper
scale data centers within America so that we could support
(25:18):
the amount of compute that is needed. Now, you might
remember the day after the inauguration, President Trump sat in Washington,
DC in the White House. I made an announcement about Stargate.
The Stargate project is exactly that. Five hundred billion dollars
being invested by Masa Son from SoftBank, from Larry Ellison
at Oracle, from Sam Oldman over at open AI. Those
(25:40):
guys are helping build out these hyper scale data centers.
But guess what the hardware. The hardware comes from the
Asian parameter. So I think in terms of China, Vietnam,
South Korea, Japan, all these regions that are being hit
with tariffs. So I calculate that you're looking at about
a ten to twelve percent an increase in the hardware
(26:02):
cost of goods as a result. Honestly, long term, I
don't think it's going to matter. I think we'll be fine,
but it is of concern and it's something that I'm
paying attention to because we need those hyperscale data centers
otherwise we won't be able to beat China and the
rest of the world in this AI war.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
This book could not be more timely with everything that's
going on in real time. And you can find out
an Amazon your favorite bookstore some future day how AI.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Is going to change everything.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
You can look under the hood read more about it
and Mark Beckman, the author joining us here today. Mark,
appreciate your time. Look forward to many more conversations down
the road. This is fascinating stuff.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Ryan, It's such a pleasure. I believe you're in Denver.
I was just there last week. Great town, awesome town.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Well, come on back and let's touch base when you do.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Thank you so much, Ryan, have a great day, you too.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Mark Beckman right there and again the book some future day,
how AI is going to change everything? And what are
the rules going forward of engagement? As Michael Brown might say,
the United States trying to play by a set of
rules with its allies in the region, especially Taiwan, South Korea, Japan,
the Philippines, Vietnam, even to a certain extent. Can they
(27:13):
isolate China and turn the tables against them in a
game that's been rigged for them for so many years.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
We'll take this time out.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
We've got an update, we think on Senate Bill twenty
five dash Zeros zero three, that's the gun grab bill.
Alicia Garcia Boomstick Babe, will join us next and her
sources are telling her that Governor Polus had been planning
to sign this bill really behind closed doors, no ceremony,
no announcement, real hush hush.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Why would he do that? Is he doing that?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
We'll find out after this to round out our number
two on Ryan Schuling Live, Ryan Schuling Live Back with
You to round out today's program on a Thursday, and
she joins us now Boomstick Babe on all the socials
for my money. She is the top Second Amendment advocate
(28:05):
in the state of Colorado, and she's breaking some news
on X of late. We're following up now in real time.
Alicia Garcia our guest, Alicia, welcome back.
Speaker 13 (28:14):
How you doing, Ryan, I'm doing okay.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
This news doesn't surprise me if true, and that is
that Governor Polis has taking the weasel's way out. He's
not going to let the gun bill sit on his
desk for ten days and become law. And your sources
telling you he is going to sign it, but no
big public ceremony celebrating this occasion. He's scheduled to do
it behind closed doors. Do we know if he's done
it yet.
Speaker 13 (28:36):
It's signed, he has signed it. I'm disgusted, So pardon
my stale personality right now. I'm just absolutely discussing the
fact that this man did it behind closed doors. He
invited Mom's demand action, he invited every town who is
basically the author of this bill, who handed it off
(28:57):
to Tom Sullivan and Julie Gonzalez who are also present,
and signed it behind closed doors. And one message that
I want to say to Governor Jared poulis is if
you're at least going to trample on the civil rights
and the constitutional rights of Colorado, at least have the
courage and the goal to do it to our faces
(29:19):
instead of sweezling behind closed doors and signing it amongst
the people that are going to stroke your ego and
help you continue to walk all over your oath that
you took to protect and defend Colorado.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And that would be my point.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
If this is such a great bill to be celebrated
as a landmark victory, why wouldn't he do it right
out in front of the capital for all the cameras
to see.
Speaker 13 (29:44):
Because the people that paid for him to sign this
wanted to be there with him, and they know that
what they're doing is a transgression against humanity. I mean
to me now, I think that when I'm seeing these
things be signed, that we need to file lawsuits against
these peop before crimes against humanity because they're truly jeopardizing
the lives and the safety of countless coloradoms.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I think this severely damages his presidential prospects as well.
Because we're watching in real time here, Alicia. Governor Gavin
Newsome kind of outveer Jared Poulis to the right, and
Jared Polis ostensibly was trying to occupy this moderate independent
libertarian do what you want Lane, This is the most
anti libertarian bill ever signed in a law, you could.
Speaker 13 (30:29):
Argue, I absolutely agree. And the sad part is it's
making people who have guns less safe, requiring people want
to have a backdoor registration, because that's exactly what this is.
It's asking permission for a right, and it's also registering
you as a firearms owner. What it's also doing is
saying you have to affix this magazine to the firearm,
(30:52):
which makes it very difficult to clear and make faith.
And if people who trained at firearms wrote these bills won,
these bills wouldn't exist, but too at least they would
know that you don't behave this way with the firearm.
And you can tell right now that this is going
to cause quite the rebellion in this community. I don't
(31:14):
know if people are going to stay. I don't know
if people are going to reject all the parks in wildlife.
I think people are not going to support Colorado parks
and wildlife because of this bill and say, well, I'm
not hunting in Colorado. I'm pulling all my funding.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
We're walking Alicia Garcia, Boomstick Babe on X and the socials.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I spoke about this with George Brockler.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Who was vehemently against it, as you and I are
as well, and he's got a deep knowledge of the law.
But what the problem, and you've talked about it with
us as well, Lisia, is in order to fight this
in the courts, somebody has to have standing, so they
have to show that they've been harmed or wronged by
this now law that bans detachable magazines on semi automatic firearms.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
So what is the process from here for you?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Legally, Well, we have to wait, like you said.
Speaker 13 (31:58):
Until this actually goes into effect. So if everybody recalls
when I sued for the three day waiting period, which
is still being litigated, you have to actually have a
reason to file. So the law has to be imposed
first and be actually in law and en forceable for
you to be able to say you are infringed upon
and then file a lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
So it's going to take quite some time.
Speaker 13 (32:19):
They would need to file a preliminary injunction in order
to do that. If this is going to be filed
here in Colorado, what are the same people that are
in positions of power. Chances are that injunction is probably
going to get denied, because that's exactly what happens to
any gun bill that happens here. Then it would proceed
to the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals. That ten Circuit
(32:39):
Court of Appeals could either, you know, keep a preliminary
injunction or impose a preliminary in junction or reject one.
And then after that it goes to higher courts like
the Supreme Court. So this process is long, it's arduous,
and it's expensive. It's very, very expensive. So I want
people to understand that if you want people like my organization,
(33:00):
the Second Syndicate, or any other organizations to fight back
on this, all that's going to matter is who has
the best attorneys, who has the time, who has the
plaintiffs and the willingness to do this out in litigation.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
She is Alicia Garcia.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Find her at Boomstick Babe on the socials and the
breaking news. Governor Jared Poulis has signed the worst gun
grab bill in American history today, Senate Bill twenty five
dash Gerald zero three. Alicia, I know you're going to
continue to fight. Will continue to keep up with you
and continue to do the great work. We're proud of you.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Well.
Speaker 13 (33:33):
Come tune into my show tonight on YouTube sixteen mounts
Standard time at Spartan Defense Armory. We are going live
with Representative Ryan Armagaux and doctor Scott Pottams, who is
also gubernatorial candidate, to talk about this and get a
real perspective on what's going on. We're going to go
deep