Reacting To Minnesota Mass Shooter's Manifesto

In the first hour of today's edition of Ryan Schuiling Live, Ryan reacts to the manifesto that was released by the Minnesota mass shooter.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Learning about the shooter.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Jake, We've obtained significant new information on the shooter. Here's
what we can tell you right now. The FBI has
identified the shooter as Robin Westman, twenty three years old.
The agency is calling this quote a domestic and active
domestic terrorism, but the police say they do not have
a motive yet to establish it as a hate crime.
Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara says Westman has no prior

(00:22):
criminal history. The shooter was armed with a rifle, shotgun,
and a pistol, which the police chief said all were obtained
recently and legally. They were purchased by the shooter. According
to a yearbook obtained by CNN, Westman graduated from excuse me,
from Annunciation Catholics, a grade school in twenty seventeen. According
to a social media post, Westman's mother previously worked at

(00:45):
Annunciation from twenty sixteen through twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay, now, what we're doing today that I want to
do avoided yesterday is breaking down the media response coverage
action to the Minneapolis shooting yesterday, both in real time
and the immediate aftermath. What I choose to do here
a lot of times because of the time of day

(01:11):
that we air here two to four pm in the
Mountain time zone, and that would be four to six
pm in the Eastern time zone. There are things that
will happen in real time. There are gonna be fog
of war details that filter out that may or may
not be reliable, and I feel I owe it to
you to only react and respond to that which we know.

(01:33):
So I try to put this in certain categories. We
don't know what we don't know, so you leave that alone.
There are things that we don't know that we know
that we don't know, so we leave that alone. And
then there are things that we know that we know
that have been verified that have been put out. That's
why I opened yesterday's program with the press conference from

(01:55):
the police chief of Minneapolis Police Department. Those were facts
as law enforcement knew them on the ground at the time.
Those were reliable details. And I say this as a
warning to everybody out there, whether you're on the left
or the right, there's a lot of kind of poppy
cock that comes out from the right as well, and

(02:17):
you have to filter through that. You have to know
and trust what sources you're getting information from. That check
a second source, another reliable source. And if a source
gives you details that you get duped on and it's
proven out later they were fake news, then you drop
that source altogether, or you at least put a jaundiced

(02:37):
eye on it, and it should bear a lot of
scrutiny going forward. Your credibility in this sphere, and I say,
kind of the royal you everybody out there is imperative
in maintaining if people are going to believe you going forward,
or just believe that you're some kind of boy who
cried wolf that's popping off with things just don't know.

(03:02):
An example of that was the gender identity of the
shooter yesterday. Now, first and foremost, we're gonna get to
this detail because just it really grinds my gears. This
was a mass murdering, maniac alliteration there for all of you.
I don't give one blank about this person's preferred pronouns

(03:27):
or gender identity. You could wipe your rear end with
that and flush it down the toilet. That person gave
up any kind of dignity respect from me, you, or
anybody else with the actions that he yet biological he
took yesterday. Don't care don't mind hurting anybody's feelings out there.

(03:50):
We'll get further that point in a moment. But what
Brian Todd CNN does here, he's twisting himself into pretzel
knots to avoid using what specific pronouns he did. This,
This was his, This belongs to him.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh she.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
We do hear that? Robert Westman is he was then
known and don't care. This is a murderer. Not gonna
spare this dead person's feelings. They're a demon. Now that
we've got that clear and out of the way, went
to annunciation Catholic. This is clearly revenge retribution for whatever

(04:31):
he felt indoctrinated by. This was an anti Catholic, anti
Christian attack on a church, on children praying in a church.
That's what this was. If we're going to go down
the whole road of hate crimes, which I don't even
think those should exist. No matter what the target of
the shooting was yesterday, was there anything but hate involved

(04:52):
in that? I don't care what it was, who it was,
what group. You don't execute a mass shooting against people
you love. It's not an act of love. It's an
active terror. It's an active horror. It's an active evil,
and it's an active hate no matter what. So what, Well,
it's extra bad because it targeted this particular group. No,

(05:13):
it's demonic. No matter who was attacked. It's equally bad.
It's just as bad. It's the worst. You can't get bad,
worse than the worst. God continues, And this is the
part listening carefully because we reported. I reported. This is
the real time, because I saw it with my own eyes,

(05:33):
got the Mark Wahlberg cut teed up.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Police are investigating, as Whitney pointed out, a moment ago
online videos apparently posted by the shooter, which describe an
obsession with school shootings. The videos show a rambling written
statement with guns painted with slurs, with the names of
mass killers, including the shooter at Sandy Hook Elementary School
in twenty twelve, and also some political messages.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Political messages. Oh that's pretty purposefully vague, isn't it. Do
you remember the political message that I told you was there?
There was the wife of the man who was killed
by a sniper at Ruby Ridge. That was a very
specific name that I saw, that I witnessed, that I read,
and on more than one of the banana clips of

(06:24):
the ammunition this maniac was using read the words kill
Donald Trump. You will notice that has been omitted in
virtually all mainstream media coverage of this. Why asked yourself that? Why?
It's a fact. I saw it right there on the
video that the shooter posted himself. I read portions of

(06:46):
the manifesto on freeze frame screenshots. That's a fact, Jack,
And it said kill Donald Trump in an ABC News report.
I know a lot of you get really frustrated, So
does Dan, so do I. So what is Kelly about
our ABC News reports at the top and the bottom
of the hour here on six point thirty k how
locally conveniently just said that the writings on the ammunition

(07:14):
referenced Donald Trump. Now from that you could glean you
might rightfully assume, oh, this might have been a supporter
of Donald Trump. No, it said literally quote kill Donald Trump.
Kill Trump. In another portion, this guy was anti Trump bigly.

(07:35):
But you don't hear it here in the CNN report,
and you didn't hear it yesterday in the ABC News report.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Why not.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
In that rambling written statement in the videos which are
titled with Westban's full name, the person recording them pages
through this handwritten notebook.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Again the torturous description the person recording some male genitalia
having person this is a biological man who did this?
This in on a woman. Don't say she did. A
woman didn't do this period, end of story.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
The notebook describes feelings of self hatred and wishes to die,
and the words I'm so sorry are written in large
letters on one page. The notebook also includes a diagram
of the inside of a church, which appears to match
the layout of Annunciation Catholic Church. The person recording shows
themselves stabbing a knife into that drawing of the layout
of that church while saying the words quote.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Ha nice, here's the pinnacle, and or nay dear of
this entire clip. Q Jake Tapper. We call him fake Tapper.
It just rhymes. That's why we do it, Jake.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know, again, piecing together this information, all of it
incredibly disturbing, and again, as I think people have been
pointing out.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Since this happened, you know, you see obviously.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Some real clues here as to what a motive could be,
but they're not saying formally what it is yet.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Minneapolis start reviewing just as another piece of the puzzle,
as to who the shooter was in Minneapolis, start reviewing, says,
According to court records, because there's been some confusion about
what the shooter's name was, Robin Westman's mother applied to
change her child's name in twenty nineteen. It was at
one point Robert Paul Westman. But since she identifies as
a female and wants her name to reflect that identification

(09:19):
was underage, it's now Robin Westman.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Won't someone please think of the mass murderer of children's
gender identity, says Jake Tapper. Won't we please consider and
treat with respect the memory of this homicidal maniac. Won't
we respect what this person wanted during his life, whatever's life,

(09:46):
they're preferred pronouns. Isn't that what's most important? Now? No,
it's not. And to CNN to ABC, I'm a guy
who does his job. Must be the other guy. That's
what I'm saying. There's no excuse for this. And again
further that point, I believe it was Kimberly Kelly that

(10:07):
texted in to Sheriff Steve Raeames yesterday about this with
a very thoughtful message. And yes, there are many trans individuals,
the vast majority of which that would not commit a
crime like this in a million years, that do not
have hate in their hearts, including Kimberly. So I would
actually be a little bit peeved that the media kept

(10:27):
focusing on this aspect of it and lumping all trans
people in saying, well, this person was transfled, They're part
of that community. Don't criticize them. Now this individual Take
all the other crap out. This devil committed this act
who happened to have gender dysphoria. But let's look into
that detail a little bit more specifically. One outlet that

(10:50):
is doing its job, The New York Post this from
Diana Nerosi and Patrick Riley. Minneapolis school shooter Robin Westman
confessed he was quote tired of being trans and said,
quote I wish I never brainwashed myself. You know, I
got into it a little bit. This is just happenstance, serendipity.

(11:13):
You might call it. That state House representative you might
recall from the other day that was calling out to
trans kids and their parents, saying, I know University of
Michigan is no longer going to do these procedures, but
it's about money. Contact my office. We'll tell you we're
going to get your body parts chopped off. I posted
that on Facebook. There were some libs coming out of

(11:34):
the woodwork, out of the insane asylums to attack me
on that. What I noticed too, Kelly, I'm not sure
if you picked up on this, because I know you're
on a Facebook a lot. That state representative who I
tagged on that Facebook post liked one of the insane
libs comments on my post, so she saw it. Oh shocker,
she saw it.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Shocker.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, never mind the fact that these are confused children.
And I'll use the same argument. And this is a
real easy one because it really confuses the left. You
will find the most environmentally aware, green New Deal, loving
animal protecting. I love animals, don't get me wrong, full

(12:14):
stop there, but they love animals. I'll use the same argument.
Kelly knows where I'm going with this that I do.
On abortion. Would you support exercising the choice, let's say,
of an older female dog that just wasn't really fit
to have a litter of puppies anymore, and you decided

(12:36):
it was in the best interest that We're not gonna
go through all that. I don't want to. I can't
afford to have these puppies. I didn't get my dog
spade for whatever reason, and we're gonna abort that whole
litter of puppies, Well, they're there. Would people would be
up in arms. You can't do that. That's animal abuse.
Yet these same people will say, eight nine months into
a human pregnant me, it's a choice we can choose

(12:58):
to you know, my body, my choice. Well it's my
dog's body, my choice. I'm gonna a boort the whole
litter of puppies. No, you can't do that, all right,
same thing any other animal. Pick an animal, any at
your favorite animal, your least favorite animal, doesn't matter. A cougar,
a mountain, lion, a kitten, a dog, a horse, pig, cattle,

(13:21):
what species and the animal kingdom? Would you support having
the gender reassignment surgery, hormone therapy, puberty blockers instilled injected
into set animal to transform them from one gender, one
sex to the other. That would be rightfully called animal abuse.

(13:48):
So why is it okay to do these procedures, these
Frankenstein reassignment surgeries, puberty blockers. That's blocking science, that's blocking biology.
Take the faith out of it all. If you included
it's even worse. But even if you're a nihilistic atheist
who only believes in science evolution, why would you stop

(14:09):
that process? The biological development of any species in the
animal kingdom, including humans? Is that healthy? Is that good?
Of course it's not. Of course it's not.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Wouldn't it be animal affirming care?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
That's what it would have to be. And if you're
gonna be intellectually consistent, you would have to support that.
If you're on the left and you're a maniac and
you're a lunatic and you think kids should have their
body parts cut off, puberty blocked, hormones injected, the thing is,
you create a lifelong patient. It's never a remedy. It's
not in a destination. It's a continuing journey for the

(14:44):
rest of that Poor kids and then adults life for
their entire lives. Go watch What is a Woman? You
have to see it if you haven't yet. That's Matt Walsh.
But let's continue with the story. Transgender mass shooter Robin
wat Wesman confessed that he quote was tired of being
trans and wished he quote never brainwashed himself unquote into

(15:06):
a manifesto posted online before he slaughtered two children and
wounded dozens more at a Minneapolis church. That's from The
New York Post. In a twisted, handwritten journal he shared
on YouTube before the massacre, much of which is encrypted
in a homespun code of Russian cyrillic script in English words,
Westman groaned about his long hair and his decision to transition.

(15:30):
Quote I only keep belong here because it is pretty
much my last shred of being trans. I'm tired of
being trans. I wish I never brainwashed myself. Continuing quote,
I can't cut my hair now, as it would be
an embarrassing defeat and it might be a concerning change
of character that could get me reported. It just always

(15:51):
gets in my way. I will probably chop it. On
the day of the attack, Westman later wrote he regretted
being trans and just wished he were a girl. Quote
I regret being trans. I wish I was a girl.
I just know I cannot achieve that body with the
technology we have today. I also can't afford that. This
was another inscription written on the ammunition, both in English

(16:14):
and Russian. I'm the woker baby, Why so querious? This
is paraphrasing the Joker from the Dark Night two thousand
and seven film, What happened to this individual for whom
I do have compassion and sympathy prior to the attack,
obviously mentally deranged, obviously severely depressed. Why though, Why Because

(16:40):
this person was given the false hope and promise of
a panacea that does not exist. And that is, if
you just go through these hormone treatments, if you just
have puberty blockers, if you just have gender reassignment surgery,
your problems are over, your troubles are gone. Sunshine's on
the horizon, rainbows, unicorns and puppies, that we will not

(17:02):
transition and you will live the rest of your life
in bliss. That is false. That is fake news. And
when you make promises you can't keep. You get individuals
like this who feel that they were duped, who feel
that they were let down, lied to, and they were

(17:22):
that this individual, I will say, deserves our sympathy and
our empathy, and that an individual there's an order of
operations here, and I mean that literally. I know there's
a pun in there. Any individual, no matter what age,
but especially if they're younger, experiencing gender dysphoria. The first step,

(17:42):
The first step should be going to a counselor a therapist,
a psychiatrist with the open minded approach of maybe their
trans will allow for that potential outcome. That is one
of myriad outcomes here. But in Colorado in several other states,
you're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to

(18:05):
deny the gender identity. No matter how old the young
person is who claims it, you have to affirm it.
That is not science, that is not psychiatry, because there
are far more young individuals going through puberty who may
be experiencing gender dysphoria, who may have internalized self loathing homophobia.

(18:29):
I have spoken, I have interviewed a trans person who
in retrospect said I was just gay and I hated
myself for being gay. So the logic then would follow
that if I change my gender, rather than being a
homosexual man, I will be a heterosexual female. That is

(18:49):
not sane, That is not helpful, that is not productive,
that is not healthy. A psychiatry should go in with
the approach to a child of tell me what you're
feeling and why you're confused, and then maybe they're just
gay and that's okay. Chopping off body parts gender reassignment surgery.

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Speaker 3 (21:14):
Getting former White.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
House pres Secretary Jenzaki in Minneapolis, Merritt Jacob ray I
taxed Prairie pushed to gun control in the aftermath of
yesterday's shooting.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
What's the White House's response to their comments.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
Yes, I saw the comments of my predecessor, Miss Sak,
and frankly, I think they're incredibly insensitive and disrespectful to
the tens of millions of Americans of faith across this
country who believe in the power of prayer, who believe
that prayer works, and who believe that in a time
of morning like this, when beautiful young children were killed

(21:48):
while praying in a church, it's utterly disrespectful to deride
the power of prayer in this country, and it's disrespect
to the millions of Americans of faith. And I would
encourage Miss Sak to pray for these families themselves, who
need it right now more than ever.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Here here, Caroline love it. In the press conference from
earlier today, the reporter you heard is our good friend
Reagan Rece. She's awesome. She's the former left fielder for
Hillsdale College back in my home state of Michigan. I
was telling Zach r and the break and I'm a
former right fielder. So all we know is that we
need a centerfielder. Any of you out there that want
to play in center field between Reagan race and left

(22:29):
and yours truly and right. We are accepting tryout applications.
John Fogody, very good, Kelly nice. Maybe Zach can tee
that one not coming back from next break. Well done, Kelly,
I'm the ball there. But yes, Reagan Race Daily caller,
recently married. She celebrated a birthday. I was texting with
her to come on the show today, and I got

(22:50):
to keep my mouth shut. I got to keep this
under my hat because it's off the record and it's
down low. She's got a big opportunity coming up tomorrow
and that's why she can't be on the show today
or tomorrow. But she will be when I return from Florida.
I'm going to see the Bean Hotchey Bean and all
of his friends. That's next week. But when I return
on the ninth, Reagan will be joining us. But to

(23:12):
the point on Jensaki, you will get to Jacob Fry
in just a moment, the Weasley, little mayor of Minneapolis.
This is what Caroline Lovett was responding to. And I
don't know why the left has to go here and
why they feel such visceral animosity toward Christianity. Christians. We
know they feel it towards Jewish people. They're anti Semitic

(23:33):
and they don't even hide it anymore. This says prayer.
This is Jensaki on Ax. You can follow her, don't
follow her, just you don't want to. Raggedy Ann posts
the following quote, Prayer is not freaking enough. Prayers does
not end school shootings. That's bad grammar for somebody that

(23:53):
was the press secretary for the Biden administration. Anyway, Prayers
do not make parents feel safe their kids to school.
Prayer does not bring these kids back enough with the
thoughts and prayers. That's just unnecessarily mean and acidic. I
made this comparison yesterday, and Kelly, maybe you went through

(24:17):
this with the passing of your father, and it was
very analogous to what I went through with my mother,
and they both died of esophageal cancer and it was terrible.
I wouldn't wish that on anybody that experience, but we
went through it. And when I came back from my
mom passing away, this was almost three years ago. Now
people would say, like PK or maybe even Kelly, like Ryan,

(24:38):
you know, I'm praying for you. Well, thank you. Does
that bring my mom back? No? Did that prevent her
from dying? No? But that's not the power of prayer.
That's not what it's designed to do. Prayers to give
us calm and peace of mind and heart and spirit
in the wake of tragedy like that. And I can
tell you I felt it. I'm not overly religious, Kelly

(24:59):
knows this. I am a Christian, but I'm not really religious.
I wouldn't say that I'd like to be more so.
But I loved it when people said that they were
thinking about me, that they were praying for me when
I lost my mom or was losing my mom. Toward
the end there, I welcomed all the help I could get.
It's not an end all, be all solution. But for
you to rip that willy nilly, that's just cruel and

(25:22):
heartless and cold. So that's Saki, But the mayor of Minneapolis,
this is an interesting kind of evolution that he took.
It was a journey in less than twenty four hours,
and he was really hot to trot about this issue.
Jen Saki's thoughts and prayer shove those where the sun.
Don't shy settle down, and.

Speaker 8 (25:42):
Don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
These kids were literally praying.

Speaker 8 (25:48):
It was the first week of school they were in
a church. These are kids that should be learning with
their friends.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
They should be playing on the.

Speaker 8 (26:01):
They should be able to go to school or church
in peace without the fear or risk of violence, and
their parents should have the same kind of assurance. These
are the sort of basic assurances every family should have
every step of the day, regardless of where they are.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
In our country, we don't get such assurances in life.
We just don't. I mean, I know that's tough to hear,
but coming out of COVID, I got a whole new
mindset on everything. The government's not going to save you,
and quite frankly, even as hard as those who protect
and serve our local law enforcement, they can't necessarily save you,

(26:41):
and they certainly can't respond in time to an active
shooting situation like this. That's why Laura Carno's gonna be
joining George Brockler in for Dan Caplis later on today
talking about faster Colorado. We need not first responders. We
need people on the ground, civilians, citizens armed concealed care
permits who know how to use those guns. And in

(27:03):
a time of crisis and a fog of war, when
an act of shooting situation is going on. We need
someone on site who can neutralize that shooter because you're
not gonna eliminate the shooters. You can put in gun
laws and you can prevent good guys from guns doing
what I just said, but you're never gonna prevent bad
guys from getting guns. That's not realistic. We don't live

(27:26):
in Pollyanna utopian times and we never will. So once
you embrace that fact and know that we live in
the real world, that you have to face the dangers,
the perils, the evil that's in the real world and
confront it and defeat it. Cleland Conwell will be joining us.
Just let the cat out of the bag there for
the second hour and we'll be talking more about that.

(27:49):
Getting yourself armed and trained, and we need teachers or
some kind of hired personnel in schools to harden those
targets the way that we needed to do. In the
case of this church, it was a vulnerable soft target
and the shooter knew it. The shooter prepared for this.
If the shooter couldn't be sure that it was a
soft target, that would be a disincentive to try it,

(28:14):
to f around and find out as Alicia Garcia articulated
so well yesterday to end up as Michael Brown might
put it dead right there before more pain death was inflicted.
Now from there, Jacob Fry were touring through Jacob Fry's
roller coaster adventure of yesterday. From that, like, don't you

(28:35):
dare give us thoughts and prayers? We need to get
gun laws and take guns away from people. People need
to feel safe, and they'll feel safer if there are
no guns and good guy's hands out there. Only the
bad guys will have guns because they're not going to
follow the laws. That's his logic. Well, then we found out,
and it was really after this show aired, and again
I thought I knew in a real time, but I
wasn't one hundred percent sure that this shooter happened to

(28:56):
be trans. Well, now, while he just villainize the entire
Christian community for thoughts and prayers, he felt free to
slam them. Don't you dare touch their ideology about trans
or make any accusations about trans people the trans community.
Don't vilify them.

Speaker 8 (29:13):
I have heard about a whole lot of hate that's
being directed at our trans community.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Anybody who is using this as an.

Speaker 8 (29:22):
Opportunity to villainize our trans community or any other community
out there has lost their sense of common humanity. We
should not be operating out of a place of hate
for anyone. We should be operating from a place of
love for our kids.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Kids died today. This needs to be about them.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Okay. First of all, this is so condescending and fanalizing
towards trans people. A trans community. If your trans out
there are all trans people the same, is it a community?
That's like saying to me, the straight white guy can
conservative community. We're not all the same, we don't all
have the same interests. Backgrounds were very different and diverse

(30:06):
within that group. You can't just put people in silos
and say stay in your silo. You're the trans community,
you all think the same. I'm not blaming the trans community.
This shooter, and unfortunately a disproportionate amount of recent shootings
have happened to involve trans people. We can look under
the hood on that and say, is gender dysphoria are

(30:28):
the symptoms of that contributing to mental instability? We can
have that conversation, as you know, grown adults here and
without labeling or slamming or pasting this you know, manufactured
description on all trans people. We can have those two
thoughts going in our minds at the same time, We're
not children, We're not infants here. Well, now, Jacob Fry

(30:51):
got the backlash on the thoughts and prayers, so he
modified that message just.

Speaker 9 (30:55):
To tad what happened was obviously an unspeakable tragedy. But
how many times have you heard politicians say exactly that
and then nothing changes. Of thoughts and prayers, they are
certainly welcome, but they are not enough.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Okay, we have to be taking the next step.

Speaker 9 (31:14):
And right now, obviously we've got a city that is
united in grief, but moreover, we have a city that
is united in action.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Action to do. What if your solution to this is
we're just going to take guns away from people. We're
gonna make guns harder to get. Sheriff Steve Reams talked
about this yesterday, whether it's a red flag law that
might be well intentioned, and I've had this conversation at
length with George Brockler. He has taken a lot of
heat for his support of a very targeted red flag law.

(31:42):
In theory, I would support that too, but in practice,
what we have witnessed what Sheriff Steve Reems talked about.
They do not work as intended. First of all, the
burden of proof on an individual accused of being mentally unstable.
Let's say, the boyfriend of a disaffected girlfriend who says
he's psycho shouldn't have guns. And now you're gonna go
take that guy's guns away? And what's he gotta do?

(32:03):
Sing for his supper and court? No, no, I'm not insane.
Let me prove it to you. We shouldn't have to
do that dance. And then further to that point again,
we go down to Colorado Springs. The club Q shooter
identified as non binary. I have some doubts about that,
by the way, but attacked an LGBTQ club a mass shooting.
It was terrible, was an awful, unspeakable, evil tragedy. But

(32:25):
that individual should have been marked red flag to have
his guns taken away. There was video, do you remember this?
There was video of law enforcement descending upon that individual's
domicile and he was holed up in a bedroom. I
believe the shooter, the guy himself, was taking that video.
Do you remember that, Kelly? What I'm talking about down

(32:46):
in the springs I do, and yet that guy still
held onto his guns. So what I'm saying is, yeah,
if the red flag law is not going to stop
somebody like that, then what are we doing here?

Speaker 6 (32:55):
First of all, it actually takes kind of a village
to get a flag law into place. It's not just,
you know, an easy thing where you just you know,
call nine one one and you say, hey, I have
I think you know, somebody should be having a red
flag law. But I mean there are definitely missteps here

(33:16):
that the parents miss.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
That's exactly the point I made yesterday and I feeled
even more strongly today, like does he tox ecology? Yeah? Yeah,
Well I think there were some four to twenty references.
I'm not going to go out dan kaplis here, but
there were on the ammunition inscribed on there, and the
level of THHC dan is right on a lot of
these marijuana products now they're off the charts. This isn't
seventies weed that you're poking in token here with Cheech

(33:40):
and Shawn. Okay, I had this conversation offline with the
Nick Ferguson over on KOA. This guy's awesome, but love Nick,
but it is about who were in this individual's orbit.
They had to have noticed that he dropped off the map,
or he became disaffected, or he withdrew from interactions with friends.

(34:00):
Are you not concerned about this individual? Do you not
check in? Do you not wonder? Do you not worry?
Do you not err on the side of caution. I
know I would have. I'd have been like, you know what,
maybe I'm overreacting, but I'd rather do that than underreact
and have what happened yesterday. Let's send somebody out there
to check out what's going on. This person was so
far gone, so mentally deranged that somebody had to have

(34:24):
known or suspected that this individual was off the rails
five seven seventy three nine. The text line will wrap
up hour number one after this on Ryan Schooling Live,
text from Sherry saying, Hey, you know I'm a center fielder.
There we go. Reagan reeson left yours truly and right, Sherry,

(34:47):
You're in center. We've got our starting lineup at least
assemble for the outfield. Zach, you said you didn't play
baseball in high school, but did you play at any
level like Little league, travel ball, middle school, anything ever?

Speaker 5 (34:57):
Like pickup baseball steat growing up with from or whatever,
never organized, not a big baseball guy.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
If you did play baseball, what position do you think
you would be best suited for? Oh Man, first base?

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yeah, don't throw me the ball, don't ask me to
do much of anything.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Are you lefty, Claire? What are you? Left handed? Righty?
Right throw? Right bat? Yeah? Okay, righty everything? Can you
hit for power? A little bit?

Speaker 5 (35:21):
I think I hit more from contact.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay, a little tough as a first baseman. There, dougman
Kovich comes to mind. You might remember him, right.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
There's a reason I didn't play much base Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I don't know if Leland Conway played baseball, but he's
going to be joining us coming up in hour number two.
How about a full hour the co go host from
news Radio six hundred in San Diego and Flora lay
of course in this time slot, well, he will join
me along with Rob Chadwick, director of Training and Education
for the US Concealed Carry Association, and the timing really
couldn't be better. Laura Carno from Faster Colorado would be

(35:54):
joining George Brockler in the first hour of the Dan
Kaplis Show. Leland and Robbill join me and talk about
arming yourselves, training yourselves, handling guns responsibly. A lot of
information coming up in our second hour straight Ahead, Keep
it locked in right here on Ryan Schuling Live