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August 20, 2025 • 39 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of Ryan Schuiling Live, Ryan looks back at Rush Limbaugh and his discussion of American Exceptionalism, and why it's so important today. Ryan also looks at Trump's potential changes to the Smithsonian.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That the NBA is coming back to NBC. No, we
are not owned by NBC at least for now. We
are owned by Tegna, and their ID is shown at
the end of the newscast. Now, I remember growing up
and loving the NBA on NBC. But there's a time
and a place for everything. You may have seen that
on Tuesday nights, NBC will air a double header with
a nine pm Mountain Star Time, and this station may

(00:22):
elect to show a Nuggets game if they're playing in
the East Coast at six pm Mountain Time. Now, if
this were an occasional thing, I would understand, But every
week our nightly broadcast with Krim Christiansen will be seen
at the earliest eleven thirty pm and sometimes even midnight.
In this age of leaders who abuse power and you

(00:42):
crave making it harder for us to deliver information to you,
well we've just given them a slam dunk.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Postponing our news to an.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Hour where most people won't be able to watch is
an attack on holding our leaders accountable, something we need
more than ever. What's going on in the world is
not nor and we need to all stand up and
say it. Join us at nine pm on Channel twenty
ten PM at nine News.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm Kyle Clark.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
That was Rob Dawson as Kyle Clark, but we start
the broadcast off today because Rob might not be that
far off with that parody, with that lampoon of comrade Kyle.
There is a merger and acquisition that's about to take place.
Now it will take several months to sort out, but
what it is. Tegna, which owns nine News currently as

(01:33):
the parent company, is being acquired by Nextstar for six
point two billion dollars. Now Next Star might as well
be the death star for those like Kyle Clark who
are left of center and have that orientation in their
news coverage they're reporting, and certainly when he gets a
little bit more into the commentary on nine Next And

(01:56):
I'm not saying any of that is wrong, and I
don't want Kyle Clark to lose his job necessarily. The
only thing I would say is, as a fellow, a
professional colleague in this industry, in this market, I would
ask that Kyle level with his viewers.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
And say, look, I am left of center.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
That is my editorial position, that's how I view the world,
and you're going to see things through my eyes. And
I'm going to share those thoughts, opinions, feelings with you
in along with this news coverage that I will provide.
But much like on this program, you know it's an
opinion program, you know, coming in, well, Ryan feels a
certain way, and I may agree or disagree, but I

(02:39):
know he's shooting me straight in terms of what he thinks,
what he feels, what he says that's authentically him.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
But I'm not hiding the ball here. I'm not trying
to lead you down this primrose path of Oh No.
It's strictly objective and everything I say is right down
the middle, and my coverage is balanced both ways. I
understand that, I appreciate that, I acknowledge that, but that's
the difference. I want to come out in the public sphere,
whether it's here or on X, where you can follow

(03:08):
me at Ryan schuling and you're going to get what
I think. Now, I will offer news commentary, et cetera
on pertinent issues in this market, in this state that
affect you as listeners in your everyday lives, and then
you can feel free to respond however you want. You
can agree, you can disagree five seven seventy three nine
send me your text.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's how we handle things here. But the sleight of.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Hand that happens in mainstream media news coverage, and this
includes in the local level, is that they are not
upfront and honest with you and open about where they
stand politically personally themselves. Now, is a person able to
set that aside and then provide maybe objective coverage of
an event. I would say yes, And in fact, I
would give Kyle Clark credit on one particular front, and

(03:52):
that is how he handles a debate.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
And he really shines in these moments.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Because he will call out a Democh as well as
a Republican when something they're saying is not jibing with
the facts the truth, and he will follow up on that.
So I give him again full credit on that front.
But when you look at it an interview setting, I
think sometimes he gives the appearance like he's pushing back,
like he'll be tough on a Mike Johnston or tough

(04:19):
on a Jared Polis, But that pales in comparison to
what happens when he obtains access to say a Heidi
Ganal or a Greg Lopez or a Lauren Bobert.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Then it's like Trum in the.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Water Kelly's favorite movie Jaws, and here comes the big Shark.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
So there's an imbalance there.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
All that to say that when Next Star acquires nine
News and makes it part of their consortium, and that
will include Fox thirty one, and that's already if I
understand this correctly, and those of you who have been
in the market longer than my seven years, please correct
me if I'm wrong, that includes you, Kelly. That the
longest standing television station in this market. And Kyle will

(05:00):
say this, the real Kyle Clark will have his comment
on this in just a moment. That Channel two actually
is the longest tenured television station in the Denver market,
but that that was absorbed by Fox thirty one in
a similar acquisition Next Star and they consolidated their newsrooms.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Is that correct, Kelly? Do I have that right to
your knowledge?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
That is crist okay, And that has been the pattern
over the last however many years, has been since the
Telecomact in nineteen ninety six, which I strongly opposed at
the time, and I entered the workforce just after that
passed through Congress and was signed into law by President
Bill Clinton. And what that did. Was it eviscerated local radio.

(05:45):
And I'll explain that in the following steps. When I
started at WBBL thirteen forty AM and Grand Rapids, Michigan
in nineteen ninety seven, at the age just shy of
twenty three, a young rube right out of college, worked
part time and then partially full time for TV nine
and ten up in Cadillac Traverse City as their nighttime

(06:08):
fojo photojournalist and live truck operator.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I got to learn that was a microwave truck.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Those I don't think those exist anymore, or if they do,
it's like a Bismarck North Dakota type station or Traverse
City Cadillac.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
So I got this opportunity in Grand Rapids.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I was hired in and at that point it was
Michigan Media and it was kind of a mon po
ownership group. They had a few stations throughout the state
of Michigan, and then that was acquired by Bloomington Broadcasting,
a more regional ownership group that included I think was
based in Illinois. And now we're getting further away from

(06:42):
local ownership and local programming being the primary focus of
what those on air over the radio. Over the air
radio stations were going to do, and what they were
going to provide, and who they were going to hire
and if they were going to hire. This was all
post TELECOMAC nineteen ninety six, which allowed ownership groups to
own multiple stations in the same market. When I say

(07:02):
it like that, anybody that has even cursory knowledge of
this business knows that's a bad thing. That's a bad idea,
because what does that open the door to monopolization of
the airwaves. A big spender can come in, throw down
a bunch of money and buy up the stations in
a market, and in some of the smaller markets around
this country, that could include like the ABC, the CBS,

(07:23):
the NBC affiliate, all under one umbrella, and there's no
diversity of thought, opinion, hiring practices, competition, which drives better
programming for you, the consumer of news, You the viewer,
you the listener to choose from. So again, this is
like late nineties, and this is when I knew I
was in trouble. So we went from Michigan Media to
Bloomington Broadcasting and then Citadel purchased us. And what we

(07:47):
were provided with was an opportunity there Now at this
point I'm about Zach's age right now, where he is
at age twenty five or so. We had a big
meeting within DeVos Hall there in Grand Rapids outside of
and Arena and that whole stretch.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
If you know West Michigan, you know what it is.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
But it's like this big kind of auditorium type thing.
And we had a they didn't have zoom back then,
this like around the year two thousand, this big video
conference session, and they gave us each frame checks for
like one thousand dollars, and these were conditional that was
not a real check.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
If we hit this pie in the sky.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Sales goal and if programming helped to pull their weight
and do this, that and the other thing across that
tee and dotted that I all along the way. And
this meeting was being broadcast from I guess closed narrow
casted to us from Las Vegas, Nevada. So we went
from an ownership group in the state of Michigan, born
and raised. We had these local kind of po dunk

(08:48):
country folk owning some radio stations. Then it went regional
Bloomington Broadcasting, Illinois.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Then it went.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
National to Citadel Citadel. Then this all happened by the way,
by the time I left four years.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I was there. That was my longest stop in any
professional position until this one.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
So the first one and now this one, my present
tense current one citadel would then be bought out by
Cumulus Broadcasting. iHeartMedia was once what those of you who
follow along Alexa, I know just answered clear channel right.
So you are getting fewer and fewer and larger and

(09:30):
larger ownership groups, fewer and fewer voices in decision making
positions of power.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
And to far be it from me. Here I go.
I'm going to defend Kyle Klark and nine News.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
This is harrowing, This is ominous that a next Star
acquiring a tegna would again limit the number of ownership
groups in the market, and they might just decide to
wipe out nine News altogether or in some way shape manner, reform, combine, consolidate,

(10:03):
trim the fat, lay off a bunch of people, fire
a bunch of people, and merge the Channel two with
the Fox thirty one with the nine News and make
one big ball of news coverage. That's not good. That
is not a good thing. What it's not good for
this program. We love having comrade Kyle to comment on.

(10:26):
Now he won't come on this show, and that's fine,
but he makes for good content because he'll put something
out there we're like, that's ridiculous, or you know, maybe
he made a good point and we talk about it here.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
He is an important figure in this market.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I would never deny that, and I'm not downplaying that
by any stretch. Again, just wish he was honest. He's
appealing to the Denver Boulder corridor. It's smart. It is
smart programming and television for ratings purposes alone, just left brain,
leave the politics out of it. But the politics are
part of it, because what do most people in the
Denver Boulder Corridor want to hear? Orange Man bad, Trumpy,

(11:01):
no good. And he fulfills that. He fulfills that role
in this market. And I, of course Dan kaplis Michael Brown,
we counter that on the other side of things in
talk radio domain that for various reasons, those who are
right of center have dominated since the time of Rush Limbaugh.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
And you know what today is, Kelly, do you have
any idea what today is not?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Of these every day is like the national this Day, right,
National hot Dog Day, National Sauerkraut Day.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
There are many days, but you.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Know what today is.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Holidays get five seconds rush Limbaugh's birthday or his last
day on air.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I don't think it's either of those.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Zach, your guys interesting you said that though.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
The National Pretzel Day close.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
And I wish I had one Christian Toto hit for
the pretzel cycle last night, I think when we went
to the five for Fighting concert, and thanks to John
and Rassak for setting us up, we got to meet
him afterwards. Kelly and I will talk about that in
a little bit. It is National Radio Day and several
of my mentors going way back, Mary Ellen Murphy and
Kim Carson. I had a big crush on Kim Carson's

(12:12):
Z ninety five point five in the eighties. She had
big hair, she was beautiful. She still is, and we're
friends out there. I owned a little bit too far
with them, but no, I admire her. So they're posting
these things about their careers and so far. Then it
just so happens that we're talking about this topic here
today on National Radio Day, and to Kelly's point, because
of that, you know, I've been talking about this, I've
been warning, I've been threatening in a good way that

(12:34):
we're going to have maybe a weekly installment remembering.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Rush and that's did you see that?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Did you cheat and look on my monitor and see
that I was editing stuff like that, Kelly, Be honest.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
I did not, because I've been in here for the
last okay, fair few hours, all right, But hold on,
I have to ask you something. When did you have
to do the nighttime jazz?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
That was just around that time of telecommats?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
It was, and at that point it wouldn't necessarily have
affected public radio because that was portioned off Corporation for
Public Broadcasting, paid for by viewers and listeners like you
and taxpayer dollars, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
MPR? Yeah, MPR, and it was you got you got
to do it in the jazz. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Hello, this is Ryan Schuling taking you through the night
and into the light here on CMU Public Radio.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Night Side Jazz coming up. We'll have some coal train
for you.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
By request, and a little bit later on McCoy tyner
tickling the ivories and playing the piano just for you.
Colonious monk will follow after that. See, we were taught
to talk that way.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
That was.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
That was an instructed public radio voice. So when I
saw Molly Shannon Anna Gastire do the schweaty Balls sketch,
that was spot on.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well that happens.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
I was thinking of the microphone, the Howard Stern movie
Private part of parts when he had to go dow BC.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, yeah, and Howard worked at WWWW for that W
four in Detroit, which was country, and yeah, that didn't
fit him very well. Anyway, National Radio Day, We're gonna
have Remembering Rush segments.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I'm going to shoot for once a week on Wednesdays.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
We might have two though, because they are pertinent to
topics that are in the news today. As everything just
about Rush talked about it is timeless. But back to
Kyle Clark and where this all goes from here. Again,
I am leary of this acquisition.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
And what it means.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I do not want a next star to come in
and start, you know, on the basis of political orientation,
silencing voices like Kyle Clark. I am not in favor
of that. Let me make that very clear. But Kyle
has to report on this and it's always difficult. So
he's the story, right. This is like when Stephen Tubbs
became part of the story in the Jim Craig Dennis

(14:58):
murder case against his wife. If he didn't have any choice,
he was immersed in and he was a patient. He
was a client of.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
The demented dentist.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
And Kyle Clark finds his news company, his station in
the news with this.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Let's listen, This Station nine News is in the news today.
Our parent company, Tegna is being acquired by Nexstar, the
owner of Fox thirty.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
One and Channel two in Denver.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Nexttar is the largest owner of TV stations in America.
And announcing the acquisition, Nexttar chairman and CEO Perry Sookes said,
quote the initiatives being pursued by the Trump administration offer
local broadcasters the opportunity to expand reach, level the playing field,
and compete more effectively with the big tech and legacy
big media companies that have unchecked reach and vast financial resources.

(15:43):
The acquisition requires FCC approval. FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has
signaled the Trump administration's interest in deregulation of local media,
with FCC Chairman Car joining forces with Republicans in Congress
to quote combat liberal media bias with a shared goal
of quote expanding regulatory reforms you may have questions about
what happens to nine News and next specifically and the timeline.

(16:08):
Here's what's been publicly stated. Next Our CEO told CNBC
this morning that he expects the deal to close in.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Six to nine months.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
He said that in the cities where Next Star will
end up with multiple stations, like in Denver, that those
stations will be quote unquote combined. You may remember that
Channel two, Colorado's first TV station, used to have its
own newsroom and staff before Channel two was rolled into
Fox thirty one's operation in two thousand and eight. Next
Star told shareholders today that expects most of the operating

(16:37):
expense reductions to be completed within twelve months.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's the deal.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Closing, operating expense reductions, combining stations now again in Bizmarck
or Duluth, Maybe I get it. Denver is the top
twenty market. Are we really going to consolidate three different
television stations under one umbrella for news coverage in this market?
That's not a good thing where I stand on regulation.

(17:04):
People often mistake this. You know, I do the whole
one third equation and one third libertarian and one third
kind of Trump Maga populist and one third conservative. But
here is where I come down on this, because there's
a part of me, I guess underlying all.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Of that that is a classical liberal.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
I will fight to the death for your right to
say something, even though I may disagree with it, that
sort of thing, and I will fight for Kyle Clark
to have a fair shot at this because of the
stance of regulation in this industry, it's it's so finite.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Now they're going to say, well, they're podcasts.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
There's all kinds of different avenues to put information out
there on that is true, But traditional over the air
television stations providing local news covers that is dedicated to
that those are disappearing. Those are evaporating into thin air.
Localism is dying in these markets, and that's a bad thing.
Whether it's Kyle Clark, yours truly, or anybody else, I

(17:58):
all want I want.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Space, all of us in the sandbox. Regulation.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
I've always felt this way about the government when it
comes to broadcasting.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
They should be a referee, not a player on the field.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
If that sports analogy makes sense, meaning they are there
to call balls and strikes fair or foul, kind of
keep things on the level, keep a level playing field
and sure that and then come what may you know
that survival of the fittest. You know, traditional kind of
reined in capitalism with guardrails. But if you're supporting these
big mergers and acquisitions and unifying consolidating ownership under the

(18:35):
guise of deregulation, well I don't want to go all
the way in that direction either, if that makes sense.
We'll talk about this more as the show goes on,
because I find it fascinating locally here, including your tax
at five seven, seven, three nine. Got a couple of those,
and when we come back, Kelly, you want to stick
around for this one our first installment of Remembering Rush

(18:55):
on this National Radio Day with the guy that started
at all in talk radio and his commentary which rings
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Speaker 6 (20:32):
Okay, the number one agenda ISDAM if I became president,
do you realize how long that list is to choose?
One thing from but if I had to, it would
be immigration. I believe that there is a distinct and
unique American culture that dates to our founding that is
rooted in freedom. American freedom, the freedom that's codified in

(20:57):
both the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution. The uniqueness
of our freedom is right there in the documents. Our
freedom specifically says our constitution specifically tells the government what
it cannot do. Our constitution doesn't spell out what government
can do. It tells government what it can't do in

(21:19):
abridging our freedoms. That's a kind of freedom that doesn't
exist anywhere else in the world. And that freedom produced
a distinct culture, distinct from any other culture in the world,
and it's why this country remains the one place people
want to come to. Maintaining that culture is key to

(21:42):
maintaining this country. That culture has created economic power, military
power the world has never known. This country of less
than three hundred years has become wealthier, more prosperous, large,
and more powerful than any nation in the history of

(22:04):
the world. Nations have been around thousands of years. And
that's because of a distinct American culture. And that culture
is under assault via illegal immigration. I'm not opposed legal immigration,
merit based with the strategies behind it, where we allow

(22:24):
immigrants from, what kind of education we want them to have,
how do we make.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
America better in our immigration policy.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
But illegal immigration is a whole different thing, and it's
got to stop.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
If we don't stop it, then.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
This distinct, unique American culture isn't going to survive. I
believe it's under assault right now, and it's even if
it's not by design. You simply cannot have millions of
people who cannot speak the language and are not interested
in learning it, who have no experience with our kind
of freedom, who have no capability in our capitalistic economy.

(23:05):
And if we have a political party like we do
that's not interested in helping them improve, but wants them
to remain dependent so they will forever vote for that
party that's the Democrats, then you can say goodbye to
this distinct American culture. And when you say goodbye to that,
you say goodbye to the last best hope for freedom

(23:26):
around the world, because that's, among many other things, what
the United States is.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
So would I would.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
Whether it took building a wall, finishing the wall, I
would get tough. I would enforce existing immigration law. I
would be serious. I would blow up the whole concept
of sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. They're violations of law,
they're illegal, they should not be tolerated, and if I
were president, they wouldn't be I'd do my damn best

(23:54):
to see to it that they weren't tolerated and that
they were eliminated. Because if that doesn't happen, then all
the rest of this that we're fighting about in America
remains academic. So would that would be the first thing.
I think a lot of it are things that be accomplished.
If we succeeded in that, that would help the economy.
It would it would ensure the basic elements of freedom

(24:17):
that we have. It would promote merit based achievement and
accomplishment throughout the country, because that would be how you
have to get here. It would dramatically improve our education system,
not having to account for people it can't speak the
English language, not having to account for people who may
not even want to learn it. And this is not

(24:38):
a diatribe against the other peoples of the world. But
the problem in the world is not us. The United
States is not the problem. The United States is the
solution to most of the problems that exist. But the
American left today thinks the United States is the problem,
and we have engaged in all kinds of mean spirited,

(25:01):
extremist behavior. We've stolen resource in from other countries, and.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
So we kind of owe it to the.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
People of the world to come here since we've been
so mean, which is folks, it's a bunch of kaka.
We simply cannot absorb the world. Our objective has to
be to maintain who we are and then export capitalism, because,
if you ask me, the problem in the world is
the unequal distribution of capitalism.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
We shouldn't be.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
The only ones to enjoy it. It's under assault constantly
by the Democrat Party. But they need to be defeated
each and every day in these political battles we have
with them. And number one would be securing the border
and maintaining a population of people that are devoted to
and love the United States of America and our distinct culture.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Remembering Rush and the lessons he taught us on this
National radio.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Day, say I told you so, And.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
In a little over five minutes, there the master of
the craft, the granddaddy of them all, explained exactly and
encapsulated what it means to be an American and why
immigration policy is paramount to maintaining our American culture, our

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way of life, our ideals, our values, and to make
that standard attainable certainly for those who would like to
come here and do so legally and contribute to our
society and broaden our horizons and add diversity of thought.
But that means all thought from all countries that are

(26:50):
looking to contribute to the American dream as they live
the American dream.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
It is a bond, It is an accord, It is
a deal.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
It is a contract that anybody who comes here or
is lucky enough to be born here, needs to be
aware of. Now, it's easy for those of us who
were born here to just take that for granted. Our freedoms,
our liberties, our rights as guaranteed under the Constitution. The
single greatest document ever created by Man, Bigger than the

(27:22):
Magna Carta, based in part on the Magna Carta, based
in part on ancient Greece and Rome. These founding fathers
of ours were brilliant, genius level intellects across the board.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
It was a dream team.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Think about it, George Washington defeating the British Empire with
a ragtag bunch of militias and swamp foxes, somehow getting
that job done.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
We talk about herb Brooks Lake.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Placid Miracle on ice I mean that was George Washington
back in the day. Genius, military mind, genius inventor, Benjamin Franklin,
genius on multiple fronts. I call him the Da Vinci
of modern American history. That was Thomas Jefferson. If you've
never taken a tour of Monticello and you want to

(28:13):
appreciate everything that that man did and contributed to this country,
I strongly encourage you to do it.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
And with that comes a lesson.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
I took the tour, bought the ticket, took the ride
at Monticello, and you see the vineyards, and you see
the books that he had, Shakespeare and all the Aristotle
on the ancient Greek philosophers, etc.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
And the works that he had in his home. This
invention he had.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
It's a calendar, but he had to cut out a
portion of the floor in order for it to work.
The mechanics of this again Da Vinci level genius intellect,
Thomas Jefferson, and there's like a needle that goes down,
and it's a mechanism that measures time. Guy invented that
in his own house. And then you see the slave quarters,

(29:02):
and that's part of the story. But that does not
define the story of Thomas Jefferson, and it does not
define the story of the United States and the promise
of this country. I've never said America was perfect, but
what I always say, the idea of America is perfect.
The pursuit of happiness, the pursuit of excellence, the pursuit

(29:25):
of a more perfect nation. And we have come a
long way, baby, in two hundred and fifty years, and
we need to celebrate that. And as we go to break,
I'm going to read this to you because, as usual,
but maybe more so today than other days, President Trump
has the left losing their minds on two different fronts.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
This one, though, drew a lot of reaction.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And while rush Limbaugh was the most important voice of
the conservative movement for many decades and Kelly was almost
right he debuted August first, nineteen eighty eight, a little
over thirty.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Seven years ago.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's a brief acide on that what rush Limbaugh meant
for local radio was a golden age he created opportunities
so his program in.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
The East would air from noon to three. And what
did that create?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
That created a hunger for knowledge, That created a devotion
of listeners who were feeling left out. Conservative views were
not presented on mainstream over the air network nightly news,
whether it was Walter Cronkite, Dan Rather on CBS, Tom
Broke on NBC, or Peter Jennings on ABC, and Rush

(30:34):
filled a void, an emptiness, a vacuum that was not
being served. And he started off on fifty six stations,
including WABC in New York at that time, not WNBC.
That would grow to over six hundred stations at its peak.
And he opened the door for guys like me and

(30:55):
those who preceded me to have a voice locally in
that market. To dovetails awful what Rush was building, that
foundational rock that Rush Limbaugh would become. But what he
touches on there, there's so much to take away from
what Rush tells us in that clip, and it will
lead to the second of those that I will play

(31:17):
in the second hour about American exceptionalism and why we
should not shrink away from that but embrace it, be
proud of it. Celebrate it and welcome those who want
to come here and be Americans too.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
But that's the key right there.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
You don't come here to undermine our country, to change
our country, to bring your own cultures into our country.
You are coming here to be an American, and you
appreciate and understand exactly what that means, and you take
pride in it. Donald Trump had this post. The museums
throughout Washington, but all over the country are essentially the

(31:54):
last remaining segment of woke. The Smithsonian is out of control.
What everything discussed is how horrible our country is, how
bad slavery it was, and how unaccomplished the downtrodden have been.
Nothing about success, nothing about brightness, nothing about the future.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
We are not going to allow this to happen.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
And I've instructed my attorneys to go through the museums
and start the exact same process that had been done
with colleges and universities where tremendous progress has been made.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
This country cannot be woke because woke is broke.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
We have the hottest country in the world, and we
want people to talk about it, including in our museums.
Amen to that, and we'll come back with another important
voice of our time right now, Scott Jennings opining on
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Speaker 2 (36:36):
Why is he you equating talking about slavery with woke?

Speaker 8 (36:40):
Well, look, I think let me just start this conversation
by saying that my personal view is slavery was a
reprehensible institution. Obviously I agree with your words that it
was our original sin. We also fought a war to
eradicate it and to get over it as a country,
and that was a necessary thing that happened in a
lot of people died and we did eradicate it, and

(37:03):
that's a good thing. I think what he's asking is
in our museums, what defines us? Are we going to
be defined by the worst moment, for the worst institution,
or the worst mistake we ever made?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Absolutely not?

Speaker 8 (37:18):
Or are we going to be defined by what we've
done moving forward to get over it and to become
the greatest nation on the earth. Yes, my belief is
that he wants to look at these museums not because
he wants to do away with the idea that slavery occurred,
but that he wants to ask a very simple question,
are we going to present ourselves as being exceptional or not?

(37:39):
And I think he believes there is an effort by
some to continue to try to define us from our
worst moment instead to try to focus and define us
based on our best moments, which started when we eradicated
slavery and began to move forward as the light of
the world.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
And so that's what I.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Think eloquent as always Scott Jennings on CNN pushing back
on and it's dominating the news cycle. That's what Donald
Trump does the Smithsonian and we'll talk to President Trump.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
In quotes coming up at the bottom of next hour.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
So was stay tuned for that, an over emphasis on
slavery in our museums?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
And might he have a point? You don't ignore slavery altogether.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
This is not a one hundred zero sum, But is
there some calibrating that we can do as to how
much focus we place on that? Because remember what Rush
told us in that previous segment, remembering him and his
stance on immigration, and what this country means and what
it's rooted in. It's rooted in freedom. There was kind
of chuckstaposed against one another. This ideal, this idea of freedom,

(38:41):
that all men were created equal, and the unfortunate reality
of what brought the Thirteen colonies together to rebel against
the British in the first place, that evil of slavery.
But America needs to keep its founding in mind, the Constitution,
its rights are freedoms, what makes this country great in
order to keep it great, and those who would undermine

(39:03):
it are doing so with an ulterior motive to tear
it all down and build it all back up in
their leftist Marxist communist image.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
And that's a fact. Hour two Straight Ahead Ryan Shuling
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