December 19, 2025 • 34 mins
Rep. Gabe Evans (R, CO-8) took a lot of heat from conservatives in the online sphere after his 'no' vote on the 'Protect Children's Innocence Act,' one of four Republicans in the U.S. House to do so. But there's more to the story, according to the Congressman. His support for a competing bill, voted on Thursday, entitled the 'Do No Harm in Medicaid Act,' which he believes is more likely to pass in the Senate and effect real change in preventing transgender mutilation surgeries on minors.He joins Ryan to set the record straight on his votes, and assure conservatives in the 8th Congressional District that he is looking out for parents and kids in the medical sphere.
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well over the course of the last couple of days,
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there's been a lot of heat and banter online regarding
a couple. Now there's a pair. There are two of
these bills before the House that our next guest voted on.
One he voted no, one he voted yes. The first
one passed the House two sixteen to two eleven, but
with four no votes from Republicans, might add three yes
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votes from Democrats. All the other Republicans voted yes. All
the other Democrats voted no, So it was two sixteen
to two eleven for the Protect Children's Innocence Act. Our
Buck at, prominent conservative on x formerly known as Twitter,
makes his home in Tennessee, put our next guest on
blasts along with those three other Republican lawmakers said hey,
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Mike Lawler, Brian Fitzpatrick, Mike Kennedy, and Gabe Evans, as Republicans,
what the hell possessed you to vote with two hundred
and seven Democrats to continue allowing in all caps legal
sex changes for kids. What the hell are you thinking?
Explain your barbaric votes to us. Well, the brief explanation
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that I'll offer, and then I'll let the congressman continue
from there. He was not all about the Protect Children's
Innocence Act, but that's not because he was four transgender
surgeries for miners. Instead, there was a competing bill, this
was voted on yesterday, and I talked to him about it,
entitled the Do No Harm and Medicaid Act, and he
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voted yes on that. So that sets the table for
our conversation. The Congressman from the eighth District in Colorado
joins US Representative Gabe Evans. Gabe, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Merry Christmas. Ryan. Always good to be on with you.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I know it's been a blank storm of sorts for
you and your whole crew there, But just take us
through your own words for our listeners, many of whom
are in the eighth Congressional District, and we're concerned about
this first vote. Why you didn't vote for that one
and why you did vote for the Dono Harmon Medicaid Act.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Absolutely. Let me first take ten seconds, because we know
we got probably one hundred thousand folks without power right
now in the Denver metro area. And so if you're
one of those folks, you're listening to this on a
battery powered radio or your car radio or something like
that in your home is cold and dark, reach out
to me. Gabevans dot house dot gov. That's my official website,
gave Evans dot House dot gov. I sit on the
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committee in Congress that has oversight over the electrical grid
in this country, and I want to talk to you
and hear about your experiences with having to have the
power turned off because it's not even reliable when we
have high wind. So just want to throw that out
there again for about the one hundred thousand folks that
we know don't have power at their house right now.
Moving on to your question, of course, I'm against transgender
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surgeries for minors.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
That's a given.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But as you said, we had two bills and two
radically different enforcement mechanisms to make that happen, which means
these two bills have two radically different pathways forward into
the future. The first bill makes doctors who perform this
surgery a felon, and so it requires, as I was
for a decade, this requires cops to go into hospitals
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and doctors' offices and handcuff doctors and put them in
jail and make them federal felons. And that's just as
a police officer. The ultimate goal is to obtain compliance
using the least amount of government force. Let's be honest,
arresting somebody's government force. We need to use the least
amount of force to achieve the ends as possible. And
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so then that brings us to the second bill. The
second bill says, let's just defund these procedures from happening
in the first place. We know that doctors aren't going
to go perform these procedures for free their expense, and
so if we just don't pay for these things at
the beginning, not only do we have an equally effective,
less heavy handed government approach to preventing these procedures from
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happening on minors, we're also able to accomplish this without
arresting doctors. At a time that people are justifiably concerned
about rising health care costs, because the Democrats broke healthcare
in this country and taking more doctors out of circulation
doesn't help health care costs go down. So that's basically
the difference between the two bills, and so I voted
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for the bill that says defund the procedures. Again, nobody
wants sex change operations for minors except for some crazy
Democrat people. But we can accomplish that without arresting doctors.
And so that was the reason for my vote against
that first bill, is just because of the cop for
ten years, Like, it's hard for me to say arrest
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doctors if there's an equally offense, equally effective, less moment approach.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
As an alternative, congressman Game Evans joining us talking about
his votes on these two separate bills. It's very important
that we don't get lost in the weeds here. But
it's important to understand the process so that people that
are putting Gate Evans on blast, including his primary opponent
Adam der Rito, know the full context and the facts.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now, Gab just.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You know, speaking man to man here, you could have
gone along the lines of your fellow Republican congress members
in the state of Colorado, Jeff Heard, Lauren Bobert and
Jeff Crank and just voted yes on both of them,
and you wouldn't have had to deal with all of this.
You chose instead to kind of draw that line that
you made of distinction. And it makes sense to me,
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But from a political standpoint, wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Have been just easier. I'll vote yes on this one,
and I vote yes on this one too.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Here it would have been easier, you know. But I
think that's one of the things that bothers folks about Washington, DC,
is when you have members of Congress that disagree with
a a bill, but yeah, you know what, I'm going
to vote for it, go along to get alonger than
the opposite happens. They think it's a bad excuse me,
a good bill, but they don't want to vote for it.
And so that's you know, I had to have a long,
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hard look in the mirror with myself based on the
twelve years that I spent in the military, the ten
years that I spent as a cop, and say, take
all of the politics out of this. At the end
of the day, is it good policy or bad policy
to arrest doctors? Given that we know there's this other
bill that has the same effect, just defunds the procedures preemptively.
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Are these good policies or bad policies? And again, this
is federal law we're talking about here. This isn't a
letter to the editor or an op ed. This is
federal law that deprives people of you know, life, liberty,
and happiness. And we want to make good decisions in
this place. And so I made the decision because I
think you ought to let your yes B yes, and
your no B no, and if you disagree with the policy,
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come back do like we're doing right now, have the conversation,
talk about why you did what you did. But I
can't stand politically expedient vote. So if somebody doesn't actually
agree with the way they're voting.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Eighth Congressional District representative in the US House gave Evans
our guest of course Republican there for those of you
living in the eighth Gabe. You also talked about the
strategy of getting a bill like this across the finish line,
and you mentioned to me that you felt the one
you voted yes on has a much better chance of
getting through the Senate and to the desk of President Trump.
(09:24):
It didn't sound necessarily confident though, that it would get
the votes required. Take us through the reasons why and
why you're skeptical about it getting through the Senate.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, so at the end of the day, we know
this is critically important. Again, I am against transgender procedures
for minors, which is why we need something that actually
becomes law instead of something that we all yell about,
never becomes law and has no more effect than an
angry letter to the editor. And so we've been working
on this bill to defund transgender procedures for a year now.
(09:58):
It was actually in the big beautiful bill earlier this
year that the President signed into law, except when it
went over to the Senate, the Democrats did what Democrats do.
They fought it and they were able to get it
removed out. So the House took that bill back said
this is too important to let go by the wayside.
We are going to continue to work on this and
find a way to not pay for and not require
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Americans to pay for via their insurance premiums, their Medicaid tax, etc.
Not pay for transgender surgeries for minors. So this bill
has been in the works for a year. It's something
that has a pathway forward through the Senate and unfortunately
the other one. I mean, I can just tell you
right now, you're never going to get sixty votes in
the Senate for a bill that says arrest doctors and
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put them in jail for ten years when there is
a less heavy handed approach to achieve the same thing.
And so I want something that becomes law. That's why
I support the one that again we've been working on
for a year, that's been to the Senate. We've seen
the cards that the Democrats over there are going to
play against it. We've reworked the bill, passed it through
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the House again, and now it's back over in the
Senate for a second.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Go at this well, And you can't always judge a
bill by its title, Like the Inflation Reduction Act did
the exact opposite. So nobody knows that better than our
guest representative Gabe Evans. He voted no on the entitled
Protect Children's Innocent Act, but voted yes once again on
the Do No Harm and Medicaid Act. You got to
look under the hood, you got to look at the
details here, and that's what the congressmen did. Gave a
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couple of comments from listeners here. I just want you
to address them because they're making these comments in real time,
and I think they make some cogent points, but there
might be kind of analysis between what's ideal and what's practical.
So the one texter comes in and says, people will
just pay cash for this malpractice. Take away their licenses
and charge them with malpractice. The other texter says, the
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issue is that these doctors specialize in these kinds of
procedures and that's all they do. That's why it should
be criminalized. It's like a back surgeon or a surgeon
that doesn't need replacement. That's all they do. So they're
full time child abusers. How do you respond, Gabe, Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The first one take away their medical license sounds good.
One of the other, one of my other colleagues, Republican,
that voted with me against this. He was actually a
former state legislator and he led the charge and passed
this bill in Utah that does exactly that.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
It says this is.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Conduct unbecoming for a doctor to do this, take away
their license. And so he and I talked and we
had basically the same analysis, which is, there are other
more effective ways to do this to prevent these procedures.
From happening that don't involve arresting a doctor. He did
it in Utah. He was the guy that led the
charge they don't do transgender surgeries on miners in Utah
because you'll lose your medical license. So that makes perfect
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sense to me. Step one to getting there is to
not pay for it. And then you know, once you
get that passed and enshrined in federal law, then you
can continue to expand that and take away medical licenses
for people that do this. I mean the United Kingdom
can agree on that. We can get there too in
the United States. So first, your first commenter totally agree
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with that concept. The second one, I would have to
disagree somewhat with this, and that's just because I've you know,
unfortunately had a lot of experiences with the medical system.
So you have a branch of you know, doctors called endocrinologists,
and they specialize in like hormones and so we know
a component of being masculine or feminine as hormones, testosterone, estrogen,
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stuff like that. So these you know, and this is
just the one branch of medicine that I'm familiar with,
not being a doctor, is you do actually have doctors
out there that do a lot of legitimate and necessary
medicine around hormones for people that have, you know, illnesses
or disorders that have nothing to do with transgenderism. They
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just have to do with hormonal imbalances. However, those doctors
also can do some of the transgender procedures around hormone
and hormone replacement. So if you defund that component of
what they're doing, there's still viable medicine that's still occurring
in other places that's necessary for folks with growing disorders
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they need a growth hormone replacement, things like that. So
we're keeping doctors and viable fields of medicine in play
that actually have a beneficial impact on people, but you're
taking out the dumb stuff, which in this case again
is transgender procedures on minors. And just to drive that
point home, I'm one hundred percent against transgender procedures for minors.
We just need bills that actually have a chance to
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become law to get that done. Because this is so important,
we can't just yell about it and not actually ever
accomplish anything by not passing a law.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Bringing you back full circle, Representative Gabe Evans, our guest,
you can follow him on AX that.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Rep. Gabe Evans.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
You mentioned the power outages, Gabe, and I'm just shaking
my head, especially the district you live in, which is
so dominated by the energy industry, oil natural gas, cultivating
that as a resource, using it to fuel our energy grid.
How in the world are we turning into California where
we might have rolling blackouts just because of the wind.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I have two bills right now to fix that. The
first one we passed out of the US House last
I think it was last week, the state planning for
a Reliability and Affordability Act in Colorado. In addition to
breaking healthcare, Democrats have also broken our grid and our
energy systems here because they want to go all in
on their Green New Deal style policies and pay no
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attention to reliability. They want to focus solely on getting
to their zero emissions economy. And the result of that
is our grid is less reliable. Not only is our
grid less reliable as we're seeing today, but the areas
around our grid are less resign, less hardened, less robust
to things like wildfire. If you've got a lot of
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dead trees, brush fuel loads near the power line, well
that's creating a higher risk situation. And so rather than
clearing out the dead trees, the brush, the fuel loads
around power lines, Colorado wants you to just turn the
power off. And that's where my second bill, the Fire Act,
comes into play. Is it says that regulators in places
like Colorado cannot punish American jobs and American utilities for
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any emissions associated with good forest management practices or good
wildfire mitigation practices like getting rid of all of the
dead trees and brush around our power lines. So I
have two bills, like I said, that are moving through
the process, ones in the Senate now, one's coming to
the House floor soon, designed to directly counter the lunacy
of what Colorado is to cling to our power grid.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
The final guests for twenty twenty five here on Ryan
Schuling Live. Congressman Gabe Evans generous with his time as always,
really appreciate you coming on explaining your votes on those bills. Gabe,
and I know the people the eighth Congressional District appreciate
you coming on and speaking directly to them as well.
Merry Christmas to you and your family, and we'll talk
to you again in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Merry Christmas, Ryan, do us since you get four hours
instead of two next year, do I get like you know,
fifteen to twenty minutes instead of seven to ten.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Gabe, you can come in for the full hour.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Thanks so much, all right, looking forward to more conversations
with him. One of the rising stars in Colorado Republican politics.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And for my money, keep an eye on him.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
He could potentially be a candidate for Senate or even
governor down the line. Doing a great job for us
in my view in the US House. We'll take this
time out, we'll come back. Rob Dawson koa news director.
He's got an update for us to send you into
your holiday. More of your text five seven seven threey
nine on Ryan Schuling Live. Now to the Plaza Hotel
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in New York City where NYPD schedule to have a
press conference.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Let's join a new Progress Live by good morning.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Uh, thanks for coming down. My name is Jimmy O'Neill.
I'm with the NYPD Chief of Department. We thank you
for coming down to the Plaza Hotel on Christmas Day.
We know newsroom staffing is tight today and it's someone outside.
We wanted to get the full breadth of the Christmas
season on this serious story that does have a happy ending,
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and we know we got Nick Boles tonight, so we
appreciate all you is coming down. We're here today to
announce the happy ending to this story, and that is
a missing child has been reunited with his family, and
the serious news of announcing the arrest of two men
who tried to kidnap him and kill him. First, for
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the boy who was taken, we're able to provide an
ID for him. He is Kevin McAllister, aged ten, from Winneka, Illinois,
a suburb of Chicago. And we are also announcing the
arrest of mar Merchants, aged thirty five, and Harry Lime,
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age forty nine. They're being held on murder charge as
well as kidnapping and weapons chargers. We should also tell
you that our victim and our suspects know each other.
Through investigative efforts and through statements from one of the suspects,
we've been able to determine these two actually broke out
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of the Illinois Department of Corrections earlier this month, and
we are communicating with Illinois authorities about extradition plans after
initial proceedings are complete.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Here in New York. Here's what we know so far.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
On December twenty third, the victim in this case was
taking a trip with his family and was supposed to
go to Miami, but he separated from his family out
of O'Hare International Airport. Right now, we are doing interviews
with the family to ascertain exactly how that happened. Callister
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arrived at LaGuardia Airport. He was able to travel to
the Plaza Hotel right behind me. He was able to,
through voice masking with this new tape recorder they have
out now, make himself sound like he.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Was an adult, and he was able to get a room.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
We understand in a state of panic, the child performed
quite well under the circumstances. Yesterday afternoon, the victim departed
the Plaza Hotel. We understand the staff was confused why
a child was staying there on supervised and use what
they believe was the Sewing credit card. And while that
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is a concern, the transaction did alert the victim's family
where he was and they hurried to New.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
York from Miami.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
We know that while mister Mcalliser was enjoying New York,
he came into contact with the suspects several times. In
one case they for escorted him, but he was able
to cause a disserbance. A woman was able to help
free him and then he began to run. Now through this,
the victim was able to recalled statements from the suspects
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with that tape recorder, which indicated the suspects were planning
to rob Duncan's toy Chess, the well known toy star
here in the city. As you know, the sore owner
routinely has cast from to the sales and he sends.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
It to orphanages throughout the city.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Wait on Christmas Eve, yes, last night McAllister walked by
Duncan's toy chest while the store was closed and witnessed
the suspects stealing money from the cast register.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
He was able to photograph them.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
We have been reviewing these photos. The victim fled and
he arrived at a residence at fifty one West ninety
fifth Street, and we've later discovered that this is a
relative of his. This house was under renovation, security was limited.
It is not inhabitable right now. The child was able
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to booby trap the house to protect himself because he
knew the suspects were coming there. We have been able
to through interviews, understand that one of the suspects sustained
an electric shock that resulted in some skin damage and
a small fire that started in the house because the
lights which produced the flame, which burned an article of
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clothing and on the other suspect that to try to
put the fire out, that suspect tried to douse his
head in the toilet, which was filled with a flammable liquid.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
The victim was able.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
To self evacuate and call ninety one one from a
pay phone, but he was quickly captured again by the
suspects on a street corner and taken the Central Park. Now,
during this time, the victim was able to befriend the
woman during his time here. We don't have a name
for her. She is a frequenter of Central Park. Many
people know who she is because she feeds pigeons. She
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was able to doubt the suspects in bird food as
they presented a weapon attracting at least a thousand pigeons,
and the victim also was able to use fireworks to
attract police. We should also note that at this time
the mother was searching for her son throughout New York
City and came into contact with an NYPD officer and
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realized that he might be headed to Rockefeller Christmas Tree,
a landmark of course here in the city.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And then indeed the child did go there as well,
and they were.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Able to begin the family reunification process.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
That is all the information we have, and we've been
able to.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Ascertain that with one of the suspects, who is cooperating
with us right now. We are not getting cooperation out
of the other one. And that is all we have
right now. We'll open it up for questions.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Chief, you know, a fish of congratulations on solving the case.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
We got some found footage I'd like you to respond
to here if you if you're so kind, And I
got a question on the other side of it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Hold on, excuse me.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
First time down the hall into the left foot, Chief,
If the young man did not encounter Donald Trump at
that time giving him those directions down the hall to
the left, do you think you ever would have found him.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
No, And we appreciate all of the people who have helped.
We do understand through interviews that we were able to
have a conversation with Donald Trump this morning about his
interaction with the child because he was in one place
for a period of time, and because of the usage
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of the credit card, it was unlikely.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That we would have found him.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
It is a needle in a haystack in the city,
as everybody knows. So we are thankful for that assistance
that at least the travel is able to say, say
for at least one night in New York.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Chief one question.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
This apparently happened to this same young man in similar
fashion not that long ago. How does a young man
get lost by his parents in two very separate circumstances,
but within such a narrow period of time. Is their
fault to be laid at the feet of the parents
or in particular the mother.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
We are taking a look at that.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
It is, you know, around the holidays, we see this
all throughout the country, especially here in New York. People
are eager to get to their destinations, and we want
to remind everyone to make sure you have all of
your belongings accounted for, especially in this tense time. If
you see something, say something. We don't want to leave
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bags behind or family members behind. This is a frantic
case of someone losing the family. It sounds like inside security,
and we just advised people to plan ahead and plan
for extra time in airport security.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
One more question, if you would, sir, this obviously investigation
has gone a lot better than what we saw with
the Brown University shooter in Providence. How was your team
able to come together, put on so many different puzzle
pieces here and solve the case.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Well, we've got an incredible cooperation, first of all from
one of the suspects. He's you know, as any person
who is arrested, they are able to remain silence. In
this case, we are always thankful when a suspect is
able to tell us a lot. And by the way,
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we are nicknaming the pair the Sickie Bandits. And the
reason is is because of the incredible amount of household
goods that they were covered in, especially as they were
running through the house. But this suspect was largely put
together and the victim was able to help himself.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
And for that we commend them.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, So the chief from the Plaza Hotel in front
of New York City there with the press conference, Kevin McCallister,
has been found a second time. Incredible right that this
would happen to the same child, who and what are
the odds astronomical for sure. We appreciate the chief their
efforts there at New York City, and as one of
those reporters asked and mentioned, a lot different outcome on
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a lot different timeline than we saw at Brown University.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Sadly, we'll take this time out.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
We'll come back your final texts of the year for
calendar year twenty twenty five five, seven, seven, three nine.
Here on Ryan Schuling Live. So many things coincide with
the end of the calendar year.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
As you well know. The holiday shopping.
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Speaker 2 (30:05):
Thanks to the z Man for getting us in the
Christmas spirit. I won't be seeing as much of him
as we move to the mornings on Monday, January fifth.
It's our final episode for calendar year twenty twenty five.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to all of you. Happy
Hanukkah for those of you celebrating right now. And zach My,
thanks to you for all your help during this year.
Could not appreciate it more. You're going off to big
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and great things over there at KOA with the Broncos coverage.
How are you feeling about all that?
Speaker 8 (30:31):
I'm feeling pretty great. I'm actually hosting BCT later tonight.
Ben is unfortunately six, so I'll be filling in with
him alongside Nick Ferguson as we get everyone ready for
a pivotal game with the Jacksonville Jaguar.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's right, Broncos Country tonight and Zach stepping in is
the backup quarterback?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Are you ready for the start? Always staying ready? You
know the playbook? Hey, I learned from the best.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Zach Saeger is doing great work here and it's seventy
degrees out so not exactly beginning to look a lot
like Christmas necessarily here in Denver, Colorado. I'll be heading
home to Michigan for the holidays. We'll see maybe a
coin flip chance of a white Christmas there to.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Your tax to close out five seven, seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Ryan, love your show and we'll try to get up
early enough to listen to you in twenty twenty six.
Other than that podcast will be my friend. Have a
great Christmas vacation. Yeah, these last two weeks have been something,
but we're ramping up to something great again Monday, January fifth.
You can hear us Ryan shuling Life Safe program, but
twice the value. You're still paying nothing and you get
four hours instead of two. You're welcome. And Shannon Scott,
(31:33):
who knows what this guy's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I'm getting him to open up more.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Usually he doesn't like to pipe in on the air,
but sometimes I pepper him and he comes back, Zach.
You know Shannon well enough. You never know what to
expect with that guy. Yeah, he spices out.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
He's the tabasco you're throwing on the eggs right at
the right there in the morning.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
What a great metaphor. Nice jobsee, man, this was great.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Rob Dawson rkoa news director of course, participating in that
Home Alone two parody, Want to go Ryan, I'm very
familiar with Winnetka, Illinois. I had a very good friend
who grew up in Winnetka. I'm assuming that they stole
the child because they wanted money for his return. When
that goes a very wealthy suburb of Chicago, Winnetka. That
was a voice to text, I'm sure, and that this
(32:15):
text is okay, you got me? This is the play
on Home Alone too.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, but a great job by Rob Dawson. I like
to allow him to explore the space. You know, radio
being theater of the mind, and Rob doesn't get to
do a lot of that. You know, he's a straight newsman,
news director. What stories are we covering? You've got power outages?
You know, he doesn't get that fun. So I want
him have fun. You can have a playground here on
Ryan Schuling Live. That's what we do. That's what we do.
(32:40):
Our earlier guest this hour, Representative Gabe Evans trying to
calm the water, set the record straight on his votes.
So a lot of you are not too keen on it. Actually,
Gabe Evans voted wrong, says this Texter. Any doctor who
cuts up a child regarding gender, and that's before they're
eighteen years old, should be arrested. Shame on him.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Why take a stand like that on this issue? Who
cares that the bill won't pass? It's a statement bill
happens all the time. Well, that's kind of what Gabe
was explaining is he's sick of that kind of politicization
of things that don't really mean anything, lots of sound
and fury signifying nothing. You know where Gabe and I
really get along is he's a brass tax guy, right.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
He embodies this creed that I have of.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You want a pragmatic, practical approach to politics in that
arena with policies based on principle. You want to get
bills laws across the finish line.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
How can you do that? Now?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It's not a neat process. It's a sausage factory in DC.
Most people don't want to see how the sausage is made,
and I get that, but you need people in there
who know how the gears of government work, who don't
become a part of the machine, but rather are able
to counter it. And I think Gabe is on that
side of things. That's just my personal opinion. I'm a
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big fan of his and I've enjoyed having him on
the program, and I know he likes to appear with
us here and it gives him a platform to talk
to all of you, especially in the eighth Congressional district.
So we thank him for his time along those lines,
and I thank you for your time throughout the history
of this brief program in the two to four time
slot as the Dan Capalis pregame show. I guess we'll
(34:20):
still be a form of that, but a little bit
earlier in the day with the Tom Martinez Show.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
In between.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
A lot of people bask what's happening between two and four.
Now that I'll be moving to six, eight to ten A.
We'll have those answers for you on Monday, January five.
Stay tuned for those and stay tuned for Christy Burton
Brown filling in for Dan caplis Merry Christmas, everybody,
Happy to have him along, happy to have you.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Along on this final hour of the final day of
twenty twenty five for Ryan Shuling Live and the last
time at least for the foreseeable future, that I'll speaking
to you in the afternoons. So here in this three
o'clock hour locally Mountain Time, saying a fond farewell for
the holidays. I'll have two weeks off on hiatus after this,
(00:24):
and thereafter I'll be appearing along with Shannon Scott the
Detroit Connection in the morning same program, Ryan Shuling Live.
It'll be four hours instead of two, double the fun.
We hope from six am to ten am weekdays Monday
through Friday, and you can set.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Your watch to it.
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You can still download, subscribe, listen to the episodes on
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But this will be the last day before that big move.
They'll be iHeart holiday programming in the meantime during this
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So you want to stay tuned for that. You could
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Still continuing the conversation on our twenty twenty five Full
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total five seven seven three nine. That could be your
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Speaker 1 (02:03):
And nine o'clock hours are going to open phone lines.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Not today. I don't want to put that on, Zach.
It's the holidays. I don't want to be Ebenezer Scrooge.
I don't want to put coole in the stocking Merry
Christmas Zach, but that number will be the same as
the dan Kaplis show at three zero, three seven to one,
three eight, two five five against. Starting on Monday, January fifth,
well over the course of the last couple of days,
(02:26):
there's been a lot of heat and banter online regarding
a couple. Now there's a pair. There are two of
these bills before the House that our next guest voted on.
One he voted no, one he voted yes. The first
one passed the House two sixteen to two eleven, but
with four no votes from Republicans, might add three yes
(02:49):
votes from Democrats. All the other Republicans voted yes. All
the other Democrats voted no, So it was two sixteen
to two eleven for the Protect Children's Innocence Act. Our
Buck at, prominent conservative on x formerly known as Twitter,
makes his home in Tennessee, put our next guest on
blasts along with those three other Republican lawmakers said hey,
(03:11):
Mike Lawler, Brian Fitzpatrick, Mike Kennedy, and Gabe Evans, as Republicans,
what the hell possessed you to vote with two hundred
and seven Democrats to continue allowing in all caps legal
sex changes for kids. What the hell are you thinking?
Explain your barbaric votes to us. Well, the brief explanation
(03:33):
that I'll offer, and then I'll let the congressman continue
from there. He was not all about the Protect Children's
Innocence Act, but that's not because he was four transgender
surgeries for miners. Instead, there was a competing bill, this
was voted on yesterday, and I talked to him about it,
entitled the Do No Harm and Medicaid Act, and he
(03:53):
voted yes on that. So that sets the table for
our conversation. The Congressman from the eighth District in Colorado
joins US Representative Gabe Evans. Gabe, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Merry Christmas. Ryan. Always good to be on with you.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I know it's been a blank storm of sorts for
you and your whole crew there, But just take us
through your own words for our listeners, many of whom
are in the eighth Congressional District, and we're concerned about
this first vote. Why you didn't vote for that one
and why you did vote for the Dono Harmon Medicaid Act.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Absolutely. Let me first take ten seconds, because we know
we got probably one hundred thousand folks without power right
now in the Denver metro area. And so if you're
one of those folks, you're listening to this on a
battery powered radio or your car radio or something like
that in your home is cold and dark, reach out
to me. Gabevans dot house dot gov. That's my official website,
gave Evans dot House dot gov. I sit on the
(04:43):
committee in Congress that has oversight over the electrical grid
in this country, and I want to talk to you
and hear about your experiences with having to have the
power turned off because it's not even reliable when we
have high wind. So just want to throw that out
there again for about the one hundred thousand folks that
we know don't have power at their house right now.
Moving on to your question, of course, I'm against transgender
(05:06):
surgeries for minors.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
That's a given.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
But as you said, we had two bills and two
radically different enforcement mechanisms to make that happen, which means
these two bills have two radically different pathways forward into
the future. The first bill makes doctors who perform this
surgery a felon, and so it requires, as I was
for a decade, this requires cops to go into hospitals
(05:28):
and doctors' offices and handcuff doctors and put them in
jail and make them federal felons. And that's just as
a police officer. The ultimate goal is to obtain compliance
using the least amount of government force. Let's be honest,
arresting somebody's government force. We need to use the least
amount of force to achieve the ends as possible. And
(05:49):
so then that brings us to the second bill. The
second bill says, let's just defund these procedures from happening
in the first place. We know that doctors aren't going
to go perform these procedures for free their expense, and
so if we just don't pay for these things at
the beginning, not only do we have an equally effective,
less heavy handed government approach to preventing these procedures from
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happening on minors, we're also able to accomplish this without
arresting doctors. At a time that people are justifiably concerned
about rising health care costs, because the Democrats broke healthcare
in this country and taking more doctors out of circulation
doesn't help health care costs go down. So that's basically
the difference between the two bills, and so I voted
(06:33):
for the bill that says defund the procedures. Again, nobody
wants sex change operations for minors except for some crazy
Democrat people. But we can accomplish that without arresting doctors.
And so that was the reason for my vote against
that first bill, is just because of the cop for
ten years, Like, it's hard for me to say arrest
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doctors if there's an equally offense, equally effective, less moment approach.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
As an alternative, congressman Game Evans joining us talking about
his votes on these two separate bills. It's very important
that we don't get lost in the weeds here. But
it's important to understand the process so that people that
are putting Gate Evans on blast, including his primary opponent
Adam der Rito, know the full context and the facts.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Now, Gab just.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You know, speaking man to man here, you could have
gone along the lines of your fellow Republican congress members
in the state of Colorado, Jeff Heard, Lauren Bobert and
Jeff Crank and just voted yes on both of them,
and you wouldn't have had to deal with all of this.
You chose instead to kind of draw that line that
you made of distinction. And it makes sense to me,
(07:43):
But from a political standpoint, wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Have been just easier. I'll vote yes on this one,
and I vote yes on this one too.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Here it would have been easier, you know. But I
think that's one of the things that bothers folks about Washington, DC,
is when you have members of Congress that disagree with
a a bill, but yeah, you know what, I'm going
to vote for it, go along to get alonger than
the opposite happens. They think it's a bad excuse me,
a good bill, but they don't want to vote for it.
And so that's you know, I had to have a long,
(08:11):
hard look in the mirror with myself based on the
twelve years that I spent in the military, the ten
years that I spent as a cop, and say, take
all of the politics out of this. At the end
of the day, is it good policy or bad policy
to arrest doctors? Given that we know there's this other
bill that has the same effect, just defunds the procedures preemptively.
(08:32):
Are these good policies or bad policies? And again, this
is federal law we're talking about here. This isn't a
letter to the editor or an op ed. This is
federal law that deprives people of you know, life, liberty,
and happiness. And we want to make good decisions in
this place. And so I made the decision because I
think you ought to let your yes B yes, and
your no B no, and if you disagree with the policy,
(08:52):
come back do like we're doing right now, have the conversation,
talk about why you did what you did. But I
can't stand politically expedient vote. So if somebody doesn't actually
agree with the way they're voting.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Eighth Congressional District representative in the US House gave Evans
our guest of course Republican there for those of you
living in the eighth Gabe. You also talked about the
strategy of getting a bill like this across the finish line,
and you mentioned to me that you felt the one
you voted yes on has a much better chance of
getting through the Senate and to the desk of President Trump.
(09:24):
It didn't sound necessarily confident though, that it would get
the votes required. Take us through the reasons why and
why you're skeptical about it getting through the Senate.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, so at the end of the day, we know
this is critically important. Again, I am against transgender procedures
for minors, which is why we need something that actually
becomes law instead of something that we all yell about,
never becomes law and has no more effect than an
angry letter to the editor. And so we've been working
on this bill to defund transgender procedures for a year now.
(09:58):
It was actually in the big beautiful bill earlier this
year that the President signed into law, except when it
went over to the Senate, the Democrats did what Democrats do.
They fought it and they were able to get it
removed out. So the House took that bill back said
this is too important to let go by the wayside.
We are going to continue to work on this and
find a way to not pay for and not require
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Americans to pay for via their insurance premiums, their Medicaid tax, etc.
Not pay for transgender surgeries for minors. So this bill
has been in the works for a year. It's something
that has a pathway forward through the Senate and unfortunately
the other one. I mean, I can just tell you
right now, you're never going to get sixty votes in
the Senate for a bill that says arrest doctors and
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put them in jail for ten years when there is
a less heavy handed approach to achieve the same thing.
And so I want something that becomes law. That's why
I support the one that again we've been working on
for a year, that's been to the Senate. We've seen
the cards that the Democrats over there are going to
play against it. We've reworked the bill, passed it through
(11:02):
the House again, and now it's back over in the
Senate for a second.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Go at this well, And you can't always judge a
bill by its title, Like the Inflation Reduction Act did
the exact opposite. So nobody knows that better than our
guest representative Gabe Evans. He voted no on the entitled
Protect Children's Innocent Act, but voted yes once again on
the Do No Harm and Medicaid Act. You got to
look under the hood, you got to look at the
details here, and that's what the congressmen did. Gave a
(11:30):
couple of comments from listeners here. I just want you
to address them because they're making these comments in real time,
and I think they make some cogent points, but there
might be kind of analysis between what's ideal and what's practical.
So the one texter comes in and says, people will
just pay cash for this malpractice. Take away their licenses
and charge them with malpractice. The other texter says, the
(11:53):
issue is that these doctors specialize in these kinds of
procedures and that's all they do. That's why it should
be criminalized. It's like a back surgeon or a surgeon
that doesn't need replacement. That's all they do. So they're
full time child abusers. How do you respond, Gabe, Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The first one take away their medical license sounds good.
One of the other, one of my other colleagues, Republican,
that voted with me against this. He was actually a
former state legislator and he led the charge and passed
this bill in Utah that does exactly that.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
It says this is.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Conduct unbecoming for a doctor to do this, take away
their license. And so he and I talked and we
had basically the same analysis, which is, there are other
more effective ways to do this to prevent these procedures.
From happening that don't involve arresting a doctor. He did
it in Utah. He was the guy that led the
charge they don't do transgender surgeries on miners in Utah
because you'll lose your medical license. So that makes perfect
(12:46):
sense to me. Step one to getting there is to
not pay for it. And then you know, once you
get that passed and enshrined in federal law, then you
can continue to expand that and take away medical licenses
for people that do this. I mean the United Kingdom
can agree on that. We can get there too in
the United States. So first, your first commenter totally agree
(13:07):
with that concept. The second one, I would have to
disagree somewhat with this, and that's just because I've you know,
unfortunately had a lot of experiences with the medical system.
So you have a branch of you know, doctors called endocrinologists,
and they specialize in like hormones and so we know
a component of being masculine or feminine as hormones, testosterone, estrogen,
(13:31):
stuff like that. So these you know, and this is
just the one branch of medicine that I'm familiar with,
not being a doctor, is you do actually have doctors
out there that do a lot of legitimate and necessary
medicine around hormones for people that have, you know, illnesses
or disorders that have nothing to do with transgenderism. They
(13:53):
just have to do with hormonal imbalances. However, those doctors
also can do some of the transgender procedures around hormone
and hormone replacement. So if you defund that component of
what they're doing, there's still viable medicine that's still occurring
in other places that's necessary for folks with growing disorders
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they need a growth hormone replacement, things like that. So
we're keeping doctors and viable fields of medicine in play
that actually have a beneficial impact on people, but you're
taking out the dumb stuff, which in this case again
is transgender procedures on minors. And just to drive that
point home, I'm one hundred percent against transgender procedures for minors.
We just need bills that actually have a chance to
(14:37):
become law to get that done. Because this is so important,
we can't just yell about it and not actually ever
accomplish anything by not passing a law.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Bringing you back full circle, Representative Gabe Evans, our guest,
you can follow him on AX that.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Rep. Gabe Evans.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
You mentioned the power outages, Gabe, and I'm just shaking
my head, especially the district you live in, which is
so dominated by the energy industry, oil natural gas, cultivating
that as a resource, using it to fuel our energy grid.
How in the world are we turning into California where
we might have rolling blackouts just because of the wind.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I have two bills right now to fix that. The
first one we passed out of the US House last
I think it was last week, the state planning for
a Reliability and Affordability Act in Colorado. In addition to
breaking healthcare, Democrats have also broken our grid and our
energy systems here because they want to go all in
on their Green New Deal style policies and pay no
(15:35):
attention to reliability. They want to focus solely on getting
to their zero emissions economy. And the result of that
is our grid is less reliable. Not only is our
grid less reliable as we're seeing today, but the areas
around our grid are less resign, less hardened, less robust
to things like wildfire. If you've got a lot of
(15:56):
dead trees, brush fuel loads near the power line, well
that's creating a higher risk situation. And so rather than
clearing out the dead trees, the brush, the fuel loads
around power lines, Colorado wants you to just turn the
power off. And that's where my second bill, the Fire Act,
comes into play. Is it says that regulators in places
like Colorado cannot punish American jobs and American utilities for
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any emissions associated with good forest management practices or good
wildfire mitigation practices like getting rid of all of the
dead trees and brush around our power lines. So I
have two bills, like I said, that are moving through
the process, ones in the Senate now, one's coming to
the House floor soon, designed to directly counter the lunacy
of what Colorado is to cling to our power grid.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
The final guests for twenty twenty five here on Ryan
Schuling Live. Congressman Gabe Evans generous with his time as always,
really appreciate you coming on explaining your votes on those bills. Gabe,
and I know the people the eighth Congressional District appreciate
you coming on and speaking directly to them as well.
Merry Christmas to you and your family, and we'll talk
to you again in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Merry Christmas, Ryan, do us since you get four hours
instead of two next year, do I get like you know,
fifteen to twenty minutes instead of seven to ten.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Gabe, you can come in for the full hour.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Thanks so much, all right, looking forward to more conversations
with him. One of the rising stars in Colorado Republican politics.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
And for my money, keep an eye on him.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
He could potentially be a candidate for Senate or even
governor down the line. Doing a great job for us
in my view in the US House. We'll take this
time out, we'll come back. Rob Dawson koa news director.
He's got an update for us to send you into
your holiday. More of your text five seven seven threey
nine on Ryan Schuling Live. Now to the Plaza Hotel
(17:49):
in New York City where NYPD schedule to have a
press conference.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Let's join a new Progress Live by good morning.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Uh, thanks for coming down. My name is Jimmy O'Neill.
I'm with the NYPD Chief of Department. We thank you
for coming down to the Plaza Hotel on Christmas Day.
We know newsroom staffing is tight today and it's someone outside.
We wanted to get the full breadth of the Christmas
season on this serious story that does have a happy ending,
(18:21):
and we know we got Nick Boles tonight, so we
appreciate all you is coming down. We're here today to
announce the happy ending to this story, and that is
a missing child has been reunited with his family, and
the serious news of announcing the arrest of two men
who tried to kidnap him and kill him. First, for
(18:43):
the boy who was taken, we're able to provide an
ID for him. He is Kevin McAllister, aged ten, from Winneka, Illinois,
a suburb of Chicago. And we are also announcing the
arrest of mar Merchants, aged thirty five, and Harry Lime,
(19:06):
age forty nine. They're being held on murder charge as
well as kidnapping and weapons chargers. We should also tell
you that our victim and our suspects know each other.
Through investigative efforts and through statements from one of the suspects,
we've been able to determine these two actually broke out
(19:27):
of the Illinois Department of Corrections earlier this month, and
we are communicating with Illinois authorities about extradition plans after
initial proceedings are complete.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Here in New York. Here's what we know so far.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
On December twenty third, the victim in this case was
taking a trip with his family and was supposed to
go to Miami, but he separated from his family out
of O'Hare International Airport. Right now, we are doing interviews
with the family to ascertain exactly how that happened. Callister
(20:00):
arrived at LaGuardia Airport. He was able to travel to
the Plaza Hotel right behind me. He was able to,
through voice masking with this new tape recorder they have
out now, make himself sound like he.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Was an adult, and he was able to get a room.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
We understand in a state of panic, the child performed
quite well under the circumstances. Yesterday afternoon, the victim departed
the Plaza Hotel. We understand the staff was confused why
a child was staying there on supervised and use what
they believe was the Sewing credit card. And while that
(20:40):
is a concern, the transaction did alert the victim's family
where he was and they hurried to New.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
York from Miami.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
We know that while mister Mcalliser was enjoying New York,
he came into contact with the suspects several times. In
one case they for escorted him, but he was able
to cause a disserbance. A woman was able to help
free him and then he began to run. Now through this,
the victim was able to recalled statements from the suspects
(21:14):
with that tape recorder, which indicated the suspects were planning
to rob Duncan's toy Chess, the well known toy star
here in the city. As you know, the sore owner
routinely has cast from to the sales and he sends.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
It to orphanages throughout the city.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Wait on Christmas Eve, yes, last night McAllister walked by
Duncan's toy chest while the store was closed and witnessed
the suspects stealing money from the cast register.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
He was able to photograph them.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
We have been reviewing these photos. The victim fled and
he arrived at a residence at fifty one West ninety
fifth Street, and we've later discovered that this is a
relative of his. This house was under renovation, security was limited.
It is not inhabitable right now. The child was able
(22:09):
to booby trap the house to protect himself because he
knew the suspects were coming there. We have been able
to through interviews, understand that one of the suspects sustained
an electric shock that resulted in some skin damage and
a small fire that started in the house because the
lights which produced the flame, which burned an article of
(22:31):
clothing and on the other suspect that to try to
put the fire out, that suspect tried to douse his
head in the toilet, which was filled with a flammable liquid.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
The victim was able.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
To self evacuate and call ninety one one from a
pay phone, but he was quickly captured again by the
suspects on a street corner and taken the Central Park. Now,
during this time, the victim was able to befriend the
woman during his time here. We don't have a name
for her. She is a frequenter of Central Park. Many
people know who she is because she feeds pigeons. She
(23:06):
was able to doubt the suspects in bird food as
they presented a weapon attracting at least a thousand pigeons,
and the victim also was able to use fireworks to
attract police. We should also note that at this time
the mother was searching for her son throughout New York
City and came into contact with an NYPD officer and
(23:30):
realized that he might be headed to Rockefeller Christmas Tree,
a landmark of course here in the city.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And then indeed the child did go there as well,
and they were.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Able to begin the family reunification process.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
That is all the information we have, and we've been
able to.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Ascertain that with one of the suspects, who is cooperating
with us right now. We are not getting cooperation out
of the other one. And that is all we have
right now. We'll open it up for questions.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Chief, you know, a fish of congratulations on solving the case.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Well done.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
We got some found footage I'd like you to respond
to here if you if you're so kind, And I
got a question on the other side of it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Hold on, excuse me.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
First time down the hall into the left foot, Chief,
If the young man did not encounter Donald Trump at
that time giving him those directions down the hall to
the left, do you think you ever would have found him.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
No, And we appreciate all of the people who have helped.
We do understand through interviews that we were able to
have a conversation with Donald Trump this morning about his
interaction with the child because he was in one place
for a period of time, and because of the usage
(24:58):
of the credit card, it was unlikely.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That we would have found him.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
It is a needle in a haystack in the city,
as everybody knows. So we are thankful for that assistance
that at least the travel is able to say, say
for at least one night in New York.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Chief one question.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
This apparently happened to this same young man in similar
fashion not that long ago. How does a young man
get lost by his parents in two very separate circumstances,
but within such a narrow period of time. Is their
fault to be laid at the feet of the parents
or in particular the mother.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
We are taking a look at that.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
It is, you know, around the holidays, we see this
all throughout the country, especially here in New York. People
are eager to get to their destinations, and we want
to remind everyone to make sure you have all of
your belongings accounted for, especially in this tense time. If
you see something, say something. We don't want to leave
(26:02):
bags behind or family members behind. This is a frantic
case of someone losing the family. It sounds like inside security,
and we just advised people to plan ahead and plan
for extra time in airport security.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
One more question, if you would, sir, this obviously investigation
has gone a lot better than what we saw with
the Brown University shooter in Providence. How was your team
able to come together, put on so many different puzzle
pieces here and solve the case.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Well, we've got an incredible cooperation, first of all from
one of the suspects. He's you know, as any person
who is arrested, they are able to remain silence. In
this case, we are always thankful when a suspect is
able to tell us a lot. And by the way,
(26:57):
we are nicknaming the pair the Sickie Bandits. And the
reason is is because of the incredible amount of household
goods that they were covered in, especially as they were
running through the house. But this suspect was largely put
together and the victim was able to help himself.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
And for that we commend them.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Okay, So the chief from the Plaza Hotel in front
of New York City there with the press conference, Kevin McCallister,
has been found a second time. Incredible right that this
would happen to the same child, who and what are
the odds astronomical for sure. We appreciate the chief their
efforts there at New York City, and as one of
those reporters asked and mentioned, a lot different outcome on
(27:43):
a lot different timeline than we saw at Brown University.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Sadly, we'll take this time out.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
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Here on Ryan Schuling Live. So many things coincide with
the end of the calendar year.
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As you well know. The holiday shopping.
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Speaker 2 (30:05):
Thanks to the z Man for getting us in the
Christmas spirit. I won't be seeing as much of him
as we move to the mornings on Monday, January fifth.
It's our final episode for calendar year twenty twenty five.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year to all of you. Happy
Hanukkah for those of you celebrating right now. And zach My,
thanks to you for all your help during this year.
Could not appreciate it more. You're going off to big
(30:26):
and great things over there at KOA with the Broncos coverage.
How are you feeling about all that?
Speaker 8 (30:31):
I'm feeling pretty great. I'm actually hosting BCT later tonight.
Ben is unfortunately six, so I'll be filling in with
him alongside Nick Ferguson as we get everyone ready for
a pivotal game with the Jacksonville Jaguar.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's right, Broncos Country tonight and Zach stepping in is
the backup quarterback?
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Are you ready for the start? Always staying ready? You
know the playbook? Hey, I learned from the best.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Zach Saeger is doing great work here and it's seventy
degrees out so not exactly beginning to look a lot
like Christmas necessarily here in Denver, Colorado. I'll be heading
home to Michigan for the holidays. We'll see maybe a
coin flip chance of a white Christmas there to.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Your tax to close out five seven, seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Ryan, love your show and we'll try to get up
early enough to listen to you in twenty twenty six.
Other than that podcast will be my friend. Have a
great Christmas vacation. Yeah, these last two weeks have been something,
but we're ramping up to something great again Monday, January fifth.
You can hear us Ryan shuling Life Safe program, but
twice the value. You're still paying nothing and you get
four hours instead of two. You're welcome. And Shannon Scott,
(31:33):
who knows what this guy's gonna say.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I'm getting him to open up more.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Usually he doesn't like to pipe in on the air,
but sometimes I pepper him and he comes back, Zach.
You know Shannon well enough. You never know what to
expect with that guy. Yeah, he spices out.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
He's the tabasco you're throwing on the eggs right at
the right there in the morning.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
What a great metaphor. Nice jobsee, man, this was great.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Rob Dawson rkoa news director of course, participating in that
Home Alone two parody, Want to go Ryan, I'm very
familiar with Winnetka, Illinois. I had a very good friend
who grew up in Winnetka. I'm assuming that they stole
the child because they wanted money for his return. When
that goes a very wealthy suburb of Chicago, Winnetka. That
was a voice to text, I'm sure, and that this
(32:15):
text is okay, you got me? This is the play
on Home Alone too.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, but a great job by Rob Dawson. I like
to allow him to explore the space. You know, radio
being theater of the mind, and Rob doesn't get to
do a lot of that. You know, he's a straight newsman,
news director. What stories are we covering? You've got power outages?
You know, he doesn't get that fun. So I want
him have fun. You can have a playground here on
Ryan Schuling Live. That's what we do. That's what we do.
(32:40):
Our earlier guest this hour, Representative Gabe Evans trying to
calm the water, set the record straight on his votes.
So a lot of you are not too keen on it. Actually,
Gabe Evans voted wrong, says this Texter. Any doctor who
cuts up a child regarding gender, and that's before they're
eighteen years old, should be arrested. Shame on him.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Why take a stand like that on this issue? Who
cares that the bill won't pass? It's a statement bill
happens all the time. Well, that's kind of what Gabe
was explaining is he's sick of that kind of politicization
of things that don't really mean anything, lots of sound
and fury signifying nothing. You know where Gabe and I
really get along is he's a brass tax guy, right.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
He embodies this creed that I have of.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You want a pragmatic, practical approach to politics in that
arena with policies based on principle. You want to get
bills laws across the finish line.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
How can you do that? Now?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It's not a neat process. It's a sausage factory in DC.
Most people don't want to see how the sausage is made,
and I get that, but you need people in there
who know how the gears of government work, who don't
become a part of the machine, but rather are able
to counter it. And I think Gabe is on that
side of things. That's just my personal opinion. I'm a
(33:59):
big fan of his and I've enjoyed having him on
the program, and I know he likes to appear with
us here and it gives him a platform to talk
to all of you, especially in the eighth Congressional district.
So we thank him for his time along those lines,
and I thank you for your time throughout the history
of this brief program in the two to four time
slot as the Dan Capalis pregame show. I guess we'll
(34:20):
still be a form of that, but a little bit
earlier in the day with the Tom Martinez Show.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
In between.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
A lot of people bask what's happening between two and four.
Now that I'll be moving to six, eight to ten A.
We'll have those answers for you on Monday, January five.
Stay tuned for those and stay tuned for Christy Burton
Brown filling in for Dan caplis Merry Christmas, everybody,
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