December 9, 2025 • 33 mins
Rep. Gabe Evans (R, CO-8) joins Ryan to discuss his proposed State Planning for Reliability and Affordability Act, along with current topics before the Congress as we close out calendar year 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
State Representative Shannon Byrd is stepping down from the legislature
as the Democrat focuses on her run for a congressional seat.
Bird announced on social media today that January fifth will
be here last day. The state lawmaker represents Westminster. She
was first elected in twenty eighteen. Bert says she's leaving
because she wants to fully focus on her campaign for
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the eighth Congressional district. It is the most competitive seat
in Colorado. It's currently held by Republican Gave Evans. Byrd
is joined in the race by fellow Democrats, State Representative
Manny Rutnel and State Treasurer Dave Young. A vacancy committee
who will decide who will finish out Bird's current term,
and that term lasts through the beginning of twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Now the eighth Congressional district drawing a lot of attention
nationwide and then right here in our own state. As
Can Christiansen of nine News just reported there State Reps
Shannon Bird stepping down from her post in the General
Assembly so she can focus all of her time and
resources money on a race in a primary to reach
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a general election against our next guest, and of course,
we spoke with Adam de Rito, Republican who has entered
the race on that side as well. Gave Evans is
the target, but he is strongly supported by the Speaker
of the House Mike Johnson, as well as the President
of the United States, earning that endorsement going back to
the summer, and he joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Representative Evans, thank you for your time. As always, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Always going to be on with you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
What does it tell you that someone like Representative Shannon
Byrd is going to abandon her post in the General
Assembly to spend all of her time, focused, energy, money
on running a race designed to unsea you.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
So you know the story of the seat. This was
the only seat in the country that we flipped from
blue to red in a blue state. Every other seat
the Republicans picked up around the nation last all happened
in red states that Trump carried. This was the only
one that happened in a blue state, and that has
the left panicked because this is the seat that is
giving us the platform to be able to highlight their
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absolutely disastrous and insane policies that are raising costs and
making life more dangerous and more difficult for everyday colorads.
They can't stand the fact that I have the platform
to shine the spotlight on all of their failures, and
I know those failures from my perspective as a soldier
for twelve years, a cop for ten years, a state representative,
and now in Congress. They can't stand the sunshine that
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I'm bringing to their failures.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Want to follow up on just how important Representative Evans
that your seat is in the Congress, and what a
pivotal role you have already played in this first year
in office after being sworn in. We know that Thomas Massey,
there's a couple of other Republicans that have peeled off
on various votes, and it's a razor thin margin as
it is. If somebody's not there, if they vote present,
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if they don't vote at all, it really narrows the
focus on your swing vote in that entire House of Representatives.
Can you provide for our listeners maybe a couple of
those bills that want the way we wanted them to go,
but for your vote, and if your Derek Kiravo.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Had been in that seat, it would have gone a
different way. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Absolutely, We're going to be with we're going to be
operating with a two vote majority. All the Republicans and
all the Democrats show up, We're operating with a two
vote majority. I'm the second closest Republican win in the
nation in addition to being the only one that we
flipped in a blue state. So on any given day,
you know, I'm potentially fifty to one hundred percent of
that majority. Probably the biggest piece of legislation was the
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one big, beautiful Bill of Working Families Tax that Act
that passed through the United States House of Representatives by
one vote, and so all of the reforms that we're doing,
things like making sure that we have the resources to
secure the border, making sure that we're being good stewards
of taxpayer money, and we're not letting the Democrats peel
off billions of dollars in fraud, waste, and abuse like
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we're seeing up in Minnesota right now with the scandal
that's happening up there. All of those reforms, the Republicans
did three dollars on average going back to every taxpayer
in the eighth Congressional District. No tax on Social Security
for the bottom eighty eight percent of retirees, all of
those things that passed by one vote through the US
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House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Congressman Gabe Evans our guest, I want to ask you
a macro question than a micro question on just the
nature of politics and the seat that you currently represent. Gab,
it seems that when you're in the House and you
have an election every two years, you can't help but
be in campaign mode like all the time. Even in
a down year so called like twenty twenty five, you're
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singing for your supper, You're wanting to appeal to your constituents,
you wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
To get work done.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But at the same time you've got to fend off challengers,
maybe some to your political right or in the Republican Party,
and then of course those that are coming at you
from the Democratic Party.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
How do you manage that? I mean, I just personally
in keeping your.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Focus, your eyes on the prize, your head down, working hard,
but knowing that you're going to have to gear up
for another election here come up next year.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Well, they call it the People's House for a reason,
because you are up for election every two years, and
so you have to make sure that you never lose
focus on who you're actually working for and that's the
people of the district. I represent about seven hundred and
twenty five thousand people in Colorado, and to me, probably
the most important thing that I do every day. You
might have heard the story before. I wear my police boots.
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They're the same boots that I wore for a decade
when I was patrolling the streets as a cop. I
wear them in the halls of Congress because that part
of my morning routine hasn't changed, and it reminds me
why I'm here, what I'm focused on doing, and to
never lose sight of where I came from and another
loose side of the people that I worked for as
a cop for a decade in the community.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
One of the criticisms I've heard of you, Congressman Evans,
and I just want you to speak to.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It because I saw you.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I saw you at the Welld County ho down there
up in the eighth Congressional District, and you spoke to
the people assembled there.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But that you're not home enough.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You're not reaching out to your constituents, you're not interacting
with people. You're not attending or holding town halls. You're
not having those conversations, at least not enough how would
you respond to that criticism.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah, So the normal congressional schedule is Monday through Thursday
that you're in Washington, d C. And then you come
back you do events, you know, Friday and Saturday in
the district. I'll give you an example from October, when
the government was shut down because the Democrats were absolutely
insistent that we pay for illegal immigrants healthcare using taxpayer
funded money. I did thirty nine in person events in
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my district in the month of October to include two
town halls, one in person town hall, one town hall
over the phone where we talked to about eleven eight
hundred folks. Thirty nine in person events. That doesn't include
any interviews, That doesn't include the week and a half,
but I still came back to Washington, D C. Because
I had stuff to do there. It doesn't include any
campaign events. Thirty nine in person constituent oriented events in
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the month of October to include two separate town halls.
So we're out, we're doing the work, We're talking to
everybody and making sure that again I'm doing my absolute
dead level best to speak to as many of my
seven hundred and twenty five thousand constituents as I possibly
can going back to that lesson that I remind myself
of every morning when I put on my police boots
of who I'm working for.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, what I can speak to regarding Congressman Gabe Evans.
Our guest at the moment is Alex Cullen, his communications director.
I mean, she's firing off press releases hither and yon,
right and left. I'm getting him on my email. I
inquire about an interview. I asked to have gabon and
guess what he comes on like one hundred percent of
the time. So there's that, and we know that a
lot of Gabe's constituents are listening in this very audience
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in the eighth Congressional District.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
We thank you for doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We think Gabe for having these conversations with us along
those lines. So, Gabe, as it stands right now in
the eighth Congressional District, what are the issues that are
top of mind for you? What are you hearing about
from your constituents that you really need to address and
tackle in DC?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I think right now, everybody concerned about the cost of living.
We saw the news the other day that the Public
Utilities Commission in Colorado wants to ban natural gas for
residential heating by twenty fifty, which is just a horrifyingly
stupid idea, not only because it jacks up the cost
of living by an enormous amount. Let's say you have
an electric stove. Accuse me, you have a natural gas stove,
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and as I do in my house, you have a
natural gas fired dryer for your clothes. If I have
to switch that over to electric, not only do I
have to go buy the new appliances, I probably have
to increase the connection that my house has to the utility,
because I probably am not getting enough electricity in my
house right now when half that load is being taken
by natural gas. And fortunately, I have a bill on
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the floor of the US House of Representatives this week
that is expressly designed to counter the idiotic and ideological
management of our power grid by these out of control leftists.
It's called the State Planning for Reliability and Affordability Act,
and it's a directive to entities like the Public Utilities
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Commission in Colorado that they cannot build the grid or
plan the grid by using their far left failed ideology
to do things like ban natural gas. They actually have
to consider the reliability of the grid based on a
thirty day rolling window, whenever they're making decisions around what
forms of energy people are going to be using for
their day to day lives.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I want to follow up on that issue, that topic
gab of energy and here in Colorado it is such
an important industry. Talking with Lynn Grainger, the president of
COGA Colorado Oil and Gas Association, and kind of the
slow playing, slow pedaling of permitting and the excavation process
here in Colorado that impacts so many people in your
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district and the eighth Congressional as well as statewide. How
would you address the issue of energy here in the
state of Colorado. I know I've been sent a lot
of messages from listeners citing the dropping of gas prices
down under two dollars a gallon in some places even
but where does it stand right now?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Where does it need to go?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And just how important is that issue to you into
the eighth Congressional District.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Oh, It's incredibly important, you know. So I tell everybody
what we're seeing in Colorado right now is a push
pull between good Republican policies at the national level that
are promoting energy dominance, that are making more energy of
all forms, and the State of Colorado that's absolutely insistent
on getting rid of all energy they don't like, particularly coal,
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oil and gas. And so when gas prices are going down,
that has nothing to do with anything positive that state
Dems have done. They're literally trying to ban this stuff.
That's all good national policies that Republicans are implementing. One
thing that we know that we experience in Colorado particularly
is wildfires. Now, what the State of Colorado does is
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when air quality goes down for a variety of reasons.
It could be wildfires, it could be pollution from China,
could be wildfires in British Columbia, Canada. The State of
Colorado says air qualities down, and then they immediately turn
around and blame oil, gas and coal and the coal
fired stations for all of that stuff and say air
quality is bad. You have to shut off oil gas
and coal without looking at the sources of where this
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pollution is actually coming from. So I have another bill
up in committee this week called the Fire Act that
says that entities like the State of Colorado cannot punish oil,
gas and coal for things like wildfire smoke that comes
across international borders. Moreover, places like Colorado cannot punish oil, gas,
coal and other operators for things like a controlled burned
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good forest management techniques. And so that's another piece of
legislation that's aimed directly at the bureaucratic weaponization that the
State of Colorado has taken to punish our energy producers
and ultimately the people to keep the cost of our
utilities low.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And I love how you can trast and compare the
federal policies at the national level that the Republican Party
is espousing, and that starts with the Trump administration and
then goes on down from there. And I know you're
fully on board with those representative Evans, but then the
state policies that are obscuring and obstructing what could be
a thriving energy industry here in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It might also contribute if there was more.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Cooperation along those lines to cost of living and that
whole issue of affordability that you're talking about and that
we're going to hear President Trump talk about in the
Poconos in Pennsylvania as he takes his message on the road.
This is his most effective way of doing things. We've
seen in the campaign, he's his own best messenger. But
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why is it important to articulate these policies to bring
them directly to the American people, As this issue is
just so important, as you said, it's the top issue
that you're facing with your own constituents.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Well, I mean, I'll give you a statistics. September of
this year, September twenty twenty five, Denver, Colorado had the
highest rate of metro area in the country. That's not
because of national policies. That is because of the failures
of the state Democrats who have ruled this state with
an iron fist for seven years, and that's what's driving
up the cost of lip I tell everyone, if Colorado
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is like in the middle of the packs compared to
the other fifty states, thenk yeah, you can make an
argument that whatever's happening is the result of national policies.
Then we know that the reason these things are happening
in Colorado is because of Colorado specific policies. So when
we have the most expensive metro area in the country
in terms of inflation increases in the nation in September
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this year, we know that's a Colorado Democrat problem. Colorado
has lost more private sector jobs in the last year
or two than forty eight other states. We have the
second highest increase of private sector job loss in Colorado.
We're top five in the country for auto insurance and
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housing insurance. All of these things tied directly back to
the failures of state Democrat policies. I know those things.
I saw them for a decade as a cop I
fought them in the state legislature, and so everything that
I do in Congress, of course, has the big picture
of the nation, because I know I'm making laws for
the nation, but I'm also making sure that these laws
actually make people's lives better in blue states like Colorado,
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because I know the Democrats playbook and I am countering
it at every possible opportunity that I can here in Congress.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And that's the point that I want to follow up
on with Congressman Gabe Evans. Our guest here, Congressman, you're
a common sense America first, patriotic Republican and a conservative
in the truest sense, and you are governing that way.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
You are issuing bills.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You just told us about one of them, and it's
not just the only one that you have co authored,
and sought to push forward in the House, but we're
seeing nationwide as a Democratic party being commandeered by the
hard left Zorin Mundani. In the New York City mayor's race,
we see Jasmine Crockett announcing a run for Senate in Texas,
and I got to have you respond to this sound
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Ian state from State Senator Julie Gonzalez. She has entered
the fray in the race for the Senate s he
currently held by Senator John Hickenlooper, who is not far
enough to the left for her liking.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
How do you describe yourself politically?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I describe myself as an organizer turns and although times.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Are you a Democratic Socialist?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
When I ran in twenty eighteen, I was really inspired
by the way that DSA was organizing young people in
a way that I thought was exciting and compelling. I
signed up as a member back then, and I actually
got elected, you know, with thanks to DSA's endorsement, all
of the doors that those volunteers came and knocked on
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my behalf. I'm no longer a member. My membership has lapsed.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Why is that?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Because I've been doing the work at the Capitol and
I don't go to the organizing meetings, and I don't
think that it's right to be a member, a card
carrying member of an organization that you're not you don't
actually show up to the meetings for Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
I guess I'm not so much patting you down for
a membership card.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm asking, like, in your head philosophically, are you a
Democratic socialist?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I am a Democrat?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Interesting gave she's running away from that label. I can
cite three reasons why. Candy City Baca on the Denver
City Council, Elizabeth Epps, Tim Hernandez in the Colorado House.
Democratic Socialists of America might be winning elsewhere, but even
here in Colorado that has gone very, very blue. They
have been knocked off in primaries. So she's backing away
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from that label. Why in your mind?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Because we see the failures of their policies all around us.
Colorado has one of the highest percentages of elected Democrat
socialists or Democrat Socialist sympathizers in the country. When I
was down in the state capitol, I believe we had
the second highest percentage of elected dsays of any state
in the country, after only New York. And we've seen
the results of their policies they've given us. Here in Colorado,
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we had the sixth largest ventanyl seizure in US history
in the southern part of the Denver metro area. Why
because dsays don't like cops and they think the bad
guys are the good guys. They've welcomed criminals and cartels
and drugs into our state, such that under the Biden administration,
fetanohl was the number one killer of Americans ages eighteen
to forty five. More Americans died from fentanyl every fifteen
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days than were killed in the entire September eleventh terrorist attacks.
I spent twelve years in the US Army. I deployed
overseas as part of Operation Enduring Freedom and part of
the global War on Terror. And so to see that
many Americans dying as a result of the failed policies
of folks like the Democrat socialists who want to defund
the police, who want to open our borders, who want
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the government to own the means of production, and who
are willing to use every possible tool that they're disposal
to regulate and control the lives of very day Americans.
I'm going to fight that and tell I don't have
any breath left to fight it because it's communism. It
is outright communism, and I don't stand for that.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
One final question gave in the final minute that we
have left. I spoke earlier with George Brockler DA in
the twenty third National Report Fox News Alicia Kunie right
here in Denver talking about the steep decline in fentanyl
potency here in the.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Hotbed of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
As you mentioned, activity for the cartels has come to
a fever pitch here, and yet there's progress being made
largely attributed to the Trump policies on this issue.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
How would you categorize that?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Look what happened as soon as Trump took office in
like late January or early February, I can't remember when
it was the Dea Drug Enforcement administration. They went out
and they started rounding up cartels and gang bangers and
organized criminals by the triple digits numbers. You know, they
had that big rate up in my area that netted
somewhere between forty and fifty TDA members. They did one
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in Colorado Springs over one hundred members down there. It's
federal law enforcement that's going out and cleaning all this
stuff up. It's started as soon as the new administration
was sworn in, and the new administration has the freedom
to be able to go out and get these gang bangers,
get these peddlers of poison out of our community. Because
we have a two vote majority in the United States
House a representative and on one of those two votes.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
He's an important seat in Congress, perhaps arguably the most
important seat in Congress. Republican and the eighth Congressional District.
Gave Evans follow him on ex a. Rep Gave Evans, Gabe,
thanks as always for your time, best of luck going forward.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Always enjoy being on with you.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
All Right, we'll take a break. We'll come right back
with more after this.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot takes,
churning the forty seventh president's epic interactions with the fake
news media.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So how involved are you going to get? I mean,
could we see you getting involved in European I want
to run the idea of states. I don't want to
run you. I'm involved in you very much. Might you
endure NATO every daddy?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I mean, I have a lot to say about it.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Look, I raised you know the GDP from two percent
to five percent.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The two percent they weren't paying in the five percent.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
They are paying.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
And they're paying it because when we send things over,
NATO pays for it, and I assume they give it
to you, Crown.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But Europe is being destroyed.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
NATO calls me daddy, he tells Dasha Burns of Politico.
Another hot take there from your President, Donald Trump five
seven seven three nine. The text line, in a moment,
I'm going to try to get through his money. Of
these clips from a ponderous sit down on Bill Maher's
kind of private you know, he smokes weed, drinks some booze,
hasn't a guest on. This is not his usual HBO
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program Real Time. And Annakaspirion, who I want to like.
She's part of the Young Turks along with Chenk you Wiger,
and they're very very anti Semitic, anti Israel. That bothers me,
That really bothers me. But she started to get it
like the Democratic Party was fraudulent, she abandoned them. I'm like, okay,
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I'll give her some time. Maybe she's just choking on
that red pill a little bit. And yet some of
her logic response reasoning on the topic of Israel.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It's just it's beyond the pale.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And Bill Maher, who's no conservative, but at least he's
got a level head on his shoulders in most ways.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
If you haven't heard the exchange, well you'll get something
out of it. This from Brian. You are so correct
on the utilities. Our coal goes right past us. We
don't even use the coal and it goes somewhere else.
We could be using that instead of natural gas or
in conjunction because it's still cheaper, but they don't want
to do it. Environmentalists have screwed over all of us.
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Even most Democrats have been hijacked by their communist side.
We were talking about that with Gabe Evans in the
previous segment. Those socialists were minimal in their party and
then everybody's flip flopped over to the socialists soon to
be basically communist. They really want to be communists because
they want to have control and power over everything in
our lives. They have laws, and they want to make
laws on top of the laws that they're not even
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trying to uphold. Brilliantly stated Brian, you know I'm a
John exter around fifty one. I grew up in the eighties.
We still did those cya drills where you want under
your desk in case of a nuclear attack. Cold War
still raging, Soviet Union. You know, mister Reagan said, we
will protect you. I don't subscribe to that point of view.
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That's sting. If the Russians love their children too. You know,
watched that season with David Harber as the Sheriff and
Stranger Things, where he's a prisoner in the Soviet Union.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You'll get a good idea.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Watch Rocky four, watch Red Dawn, any of those from
the eighties. If you were called a communist in the eighties,
it was an insult.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
It was a joke.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It was a punchline, like, of course you're not a
communist like Yakov Smirnoff used to say, the comedian that
was big during that time.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
In Soviet Russia. You don't watch TV. TV watches you,
And he was not really joking.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Soviet Union was an abject failure, a disaster of epic proportions.
Bread lines, which Bernie Sanders talked about as.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
If oh, that's a good thing. You got people in
London waiting for bread, and it's wanting to get food. No,
it's not a good thing. When did capitalism become a
dirty word? There was a line from a movie Michael
Douglas portraying Gordon Gecko in Wall Street And.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Again, yeah he's a villain, but he's kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
And he says, greed, for lack of a better word,
is good.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And you know what it is. And I'll tell you
why greed drives innovation. And I think that's the basis
of the speech from the movie.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I haven't seen in a while. Maybe i'll watch it tonight.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But those of you who are picking up what I'm
putting down, when there is open competition, when there is
minimal regulation. Notice I didn't say no regulation. I am
not an anarchist. I'm a libertarian to a point. We
should have guardrails for competent but the free flow of ideas,
the free flow of innovation, invention, ingenuity, hustle, hard work
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that should drive not only the American economy, but the
world economy. And we did that in the American century
the twentieth century. Why because we had an environment that
was conducive to research and development. To that innovation I
talked about, to invention, to the investment in good ideas
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and people and hiring people, and the race to build
a better mouse trap or a better automobile from the
Ford model t to the present day, and the competition
drove consumerism and capitalism and what was best for those
who would buy those products. Capitalism, for lack of a
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better word, is good. Communism. Socialism is doomed and destined
for failure where it's been tried. I will cite Cuba,
I will cite the Soviet Union, I will cite the
former Yugoslavia. The only reason China still stands up is
because they have some kind of weird hybrid economy in
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which they have harnessed all that is good about capitalism
without allowing its people to enjoy the fruits of that
labor through sheer power, domination, and subjugation. Within the People's
Republic of China, it's the only place where communism.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Has ever thrived in that being.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
In quotes, Venezuela once was a thriving country with immense
oil capacity, and it was driven into the dirt by
communist dictators. And now people flee Venezuela for here, people
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flee Cuba for here. If communism was such a great idea.
Why aren't people in the West, let's say, the United States,
Great Britain, France, flea for the likes of China, Venezuela, Cuba,
because these are failed policies.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Gabe Evans said it so well. He is so sharp.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
He is really a rising star in the Republican Party,
not only here in Colorado but nationally because he gets it.
He understands the dangers of socialism. And even in that
previous segment, as we were lampooning the likes of the
state Senator Julie Gonzalez for not a Democratic socialist, you
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won't find a membership card in my pocket.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Don't look over here. It's not in my purse. It's
not over here. Oh, they helped me get elected. But hi, uh,
why would you run from that?
Speaker 7 (26:43):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You know, from each according to his ability, and to
each according to his need. You take from the providers,
You take from those who can work, who want to work,
who innovate an event. You steal from them because you
know they're jerks, and give to the lazy people who
are sitting around doing nothing, thumbs up their bums, no innovation,
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no drive, and you just give them a guaranteed basic
income for every month of their lives. They don't have
to work, they don't have to strive, they don't have
to set goals, they don't have to pursue those dreams.
You don't have to do any of that because we're
gonna punish the rich. We're gonna tax them into oblivion.
You're gonna take from them, We're gonna reapproportion that. Well,
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we're gonna redistribute it to these bums over here that
don't do anything. Does that sound like a good idea?
Do we reward failure and punish success? Or should we
reward success to prevent failure? For all these AOC's Zoron
Mundani's Bernie Sanders that criticize the billionaires, those are the
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job creators. Those are the CEOs. Jeff Bezos, say what
you will, kind of weird guy. How many jobs has
Amazon created over the last twenty years in the United
States and elsewhere everywhere Amazon? You might not like it,
Corporate putsmanpa businesses, Main Street affects them, Sure, but look
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at the model. Look at what Amazon has innovated and
been able to do. How many of you will go
home tonight and order something from Amazon and have it
delivered to your doorstep.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I've done it. It's a tremendous convenience.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
You can order Christmas gifts in your pajamas online on
your phone and have it come to you get wrapped, even.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
For the holiday season. And that's supposed to be a
bad thing.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It is up to people who are competitive in the
market of ideas and the interest of consumers to come up,
like I said with that mouse trap. And once it's done,
once you have an Amazon, well it's difficult to unring
that bell.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But the interest of consumers will always drive the American economy,
and that's how it should be. You want us to
buy electric vehicles, okay, make them affordable, make them convenient,
make them efficient, make them competitive with the gas powered
automobiles that most people drive these days, and then consumers
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will buy them. Don't give us tax incentives. Make the
product better, make it more reliable, make it more affordable.
Once that's done, well, now people will choose. They will
prefer to drive electric cars. Don't force that pill down
our throats. What you should drive an electric vehicle?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
How much does it cost to repair the battery in
one of those things. No thanks, I'll pass, especially gas
now two dollars a gallon. Oh, we got to make
it more expensive. We got to provide disincentives for people
to not dri I have gasoline powered automobiles and somehow,
you know, stretch their economic dollar and buy electric vehicles instead. Again,
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I will pass, respectfully, with all due respect the three
Bobby would say in Talladega Nights, closing out your tex
five seven, seven, three nine, Ryan Schuling live on this Tuesday,
rolls on after these words from the Great Sting the Russians,
hoping they love their children too. Written in the midst
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of the Cold War the eighties, the Soviet Union would collapse.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
President Reagan would.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Implore mister Gorbagshaw, tear down this wall, and that would
happen in nineteen eighty nine, this Texter sending in blast
from the past.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That's right, the real Ralph Ryan Gecko Shooling.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Well, let's go to that clip right now, shall we.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
The new law of evolution in corporate America, it seems
to be survival of the unfitness. Well, in my book,
you either do it right or you get eliminated. In
the last seven deals that I've been involved with there
were two point five million stockholders who have made a
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pre tax profit of twelve billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I am not a destroyer of companies. I am a
liberator of them.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that greed, for lack
of a better word, is good. Greed is right, Greed works,
Greed clarifies, cuts through and captures the essays of the
evolutionary spirit. Greed in all of its forms, greed for life,
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for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge
of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not
only save tell our paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation
called the USA. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Now I know it's one of the seven Deadly Sins.
And in the eighties, this was a hallmark movie of
that time.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The eighties were a time of decadent success in America,
in sharp contrast to the nineteen seventies, which were morose,
which were dark, which were depressing, with the Cold War
still raging, Vietnam, Watergate, New York City was a slum.
President Carter was a disaster and a failure. And everything
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turned with the Miracle on Ice in nineteen eighty and
the Reagan victory of nineteen eighty and the Reagan years
of the nineteen eighties. Now you substitute greed with hunger thirst.
What he talks about knowledge, love, ideas, excellence, drive. Take
greed out of that. And he's right, He's absolutely right.
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And that's what made America great in the eighties. And
for lack of a better word, that drive, that hunger,
that greed is making America great once again with Donald
Trump as president.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I'll talk to you tomorrow. Ryan Shuling live right here
on six point thirty k
State Representative Shannon Byrd is stepping down from the legislature
as the Democrat focuses on her run for a congressional seat.
Bird announced on social media today that January fifth will
be here last day. The state lawmaker represents Westminster. She
was first elected in twenty eighteen. Bert says she's leaving
because she wants to fully focus on her campaign for
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the eighth Congressional district. It is the most competitive seat
in Colorado. It's currently held by Republican Gave Evans. Byrd
is joined in the race by fellow Democrats, State Representative
Manny Rutnel and State Treasurer Dave Young. A vacancy committee
who will decide who will finish out Bird's current term,
and that term lasts through the beginning of twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Now the eighth Congressional district drawing a lot of attention
nationwide and then right here in our own state. As
Can Christiansen of nine News just reported there State Reps
Shannon Bird stepping down from her post in the General
Assembly so she can focus all of her time and
resources money on a race in a primary to reach
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a general election against our next guest, and of course,
we spoke with Adam de Rito, Republican who has entered
the race on that side as well. Gave Evans is
the target, but he is strongly supported by the Speaker
of the House Mike Johnson, as well as the President
of the United States, earning that endorsement going back to
the summer, and he joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Representative Evans, thank you for your time. As always, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Always going to be on with you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
What does it tell you that someone like Representative Shannon
Byrd is going to abandon her post in the General
Assembly to spend all of her time, focused, energy, money
on running a race designed to unsea you.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
So you know the story of the seat. This was
the only seat in the country that we flipped from
blue to red in a blue state. Every other seat
the Republicans picked up around the nation last all happened
in red states that Trump carried. This was the only
one that happened in a blue state, and that has
the left panicked because this is the seat that is
giving us the platform to be able to highlight their
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absolutely disastrous and insane policies that are raising costs and
making life more dangerous and more difficult for everyday colorads.
They can't stand the fact that I have the platform
to shine the spotlight on all of their failures, and
I know those failures from my perspective as a soldier
for twelve years, a cop for ten years, a state representative,
and now in Congress. They can't stand the sunshine that
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I'm bringing to their failures.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Want to follow up on just how important Representative Evans
that your seat is in the Congress, and what a
pivotal role you have already played in this first year
in office after being sworn in. We know that Thomas Massey,
there's a couple of other Republicans that have peeled off
on various votes, and it's a razor thin margin as
it is. If somebody's not there, if they vote present,
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if they don't vote at all, it really narrows the
focus on your swing vote in that entire House of Representatives.
Can you provide for our listeners maybe a couple of
those bills that want the way we wanted them to go,
but for your vote, and if your Derek Kiravo.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Had been in that seat, it would have gone a
different way. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Absolutely, We're going to be with we're going to be
operating with a two vote majority. All the Republicans and
all the Democrats show up, We're operating with a two
vote majority. I'm the second closest Republican win in the
nation in addition to being the only one that we
flipped in a blue state. So on any given day,
you know, I'm potentially fifty to one hundred percent of
that majority. Probably the biggest piece of legislation was the
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one big, beautiful Bill of Working Families Tax that Act
that passed through the United States House of Representatives by
one vote, and so all of the reforms that we're doing,
things like making sure that we have the resources to
secure the border, making sure that we're being good stewards
of taxpayer money, and we're not letting the Democrats peel
off billions of dollars in fraud, waste, and abuse like
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we're seeing up in Minnesota right now with the scandal
that's happening up there. All of those reforms, the Republicans
did three dollars on average going back to every taxpayer
in the eighth Congressional District. No tax on Social Security
for the bottom eighty eight percent of retirees, all of
those things that passed by one vote through the US
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House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Congressman Gabe Evans our guest, I want to ask you
a macro question than a micro question on just the
nature of politics and the seat that you currently represent. Gab,
it seems that when you're in the House and you
have an election every two years, you can't help but
be in campaign mode like all the time. Even in
a down year so called like twenty twenty five, you're
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singing for your supper, You're wanting to appeal to your constituents,
you wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
To get work done.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But at the same time you've got to fend off challengers,
maybe some to your political right or in the Republican Party,
and then of course those that are coming at you
from the Democratic Party.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
How do you manage that? I mean, I just personally
in keeping your.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Focus, your eyes on the prize, your head down, working hard,
but knowing that you're going to have to gear up
for another election here come up next year.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Well, they call it the People's House for a reason,
because you are up for election every two years, and
so you have to make sure that you never lose
focus on who you're actually working for and that's the
people of the district. I represent about seven hundred and
twenty five thousand people in Colorado, and to me, probably
the most important thing that I do every day. You
might have heard the story before. I wear my police boots.
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They're the same boots that I wore for a decade
when I was patrolling the streets as a cop. I
wear them in the halls of Congress because that part
of my morning routine hasn't changed, and it reminds me
why I'm here, what I'm focused on doing, and to
never lose sight of where I came from and another
loose side of the people that I worked for as
a cop for a decade in the community.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
One of the criticisms I've heard of you, Congressman Evans,
and I just want you to speak to.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It because I saw you.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I saw you at the Welld County ho down there
up in the eighth Congressional District, and you spoke to
the people assembled there.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
But that you're not home enough.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You're not reaching out to your constituents, you're not interacting
with people. You're not attending or holding town halls. You're
not having those conversations, at least not enough how would
you respond to that criticism.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah, So the normal congressional schedule is Monday through Thursday
that you're in Washington, d C. And then you come
back you do events, you know, Friday and Saturday in
the district. I'll give you an example from October, when
the government was shut down because the Democrats were absolutely
insistent that we pay for illegal immigrants healthcare using taxpayer
funded money. I did thirty nine in person events in
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my district in the month of October to include two
town halls, one in person town hall, one town hall
over the phone where we talked to about eleven eight
hundred folks. Thirty nine in person events. That doesn't include
any interviews, That doesn't include the week and a half,
but I still came back to Washington, D C. Because
I had stuff to do there. It doesn't include any
campaign events. Thirty nine in person constituent oriented events in
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the month of October to include two separate town halls.
So we're out, we're doing the work, We're talking to
everybody and making sure that again I'm doing my absolute
dead level best to speak to as many of my
seven hundred and twenty five thousand constituents as I possibly
can going back to that lesson that I remind myself
of every morning when I put on my police boots
of who I'm working for.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, what I can speak to regarding Congressman Gabe Evans.
Our guest at the moment is Alex Cullen, his communications director.
I mean, she's firing off press releases hither and yon,
right and left. I'm getting him on my email. I
inquire about an interview. I asked to have gabon and
guess what he comes on like one hundred percent of
the time. So there's that, and we know that a
lot of Gabe's constituents are listening in this very audience
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in the eighth Congressional District.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
We thank you for doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We think Gabe for having these conversations with us along
those lines. So, Gabe, as it stands right now in
the eighth Congressional District, what are the issues that are
top of mind for you? What are you hearing about
from your constituents that you really need to address and
tackle in DC?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I think right now, everybody concerned about the cost of living.
We saw the news the other day that the Public
Utilities Commission in Colorado wants to ban natural gas for
residential heating by twenty fifty, which is just a horrifyingly
stupid idea, not only because it jacks up the cost
of living by an enormous amount. Let's say you have
an electric stove. Accuse me, you have a natural gas stove,
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and as I do in my house, you have a
natural gas fired dryer for your clothes. If I have
to switch that over to electric, not only do I
have to go buy the new appliances, I probably have
to increase the connection that my house has to the utility,
because I probably am not getting enough electricity in my
house right now when half that load is being taken
by natural gas. And fortunately, I have a bill on
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the floor of the US House of Representatives this week
that is expressly designed to counter the idiotic and ideological
management of our power grid by these out of control leftists.
It's called the State Planning for Reliability and Affordability Act,
and it's a directive to entities like the Public Utilities
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Commission in Colorado that they cannot build the grid or
plan the grid by using their far left failed ideology
to do things like ban natural gas. They actually have
to consider the reliability of the grid based on a
thirty day rolling window, whenever they're making decisions around what
forms of energy people are going to be using for
their day to day lives.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I want to follow up on that issue, that topic
gab of energy and here in Colorado it is such
an important industry. Talking with Lynn Grainger, the president of
COGA Colorado Oil and Gas Association, and kind of the
slow playing, slow pedaling of permitting and the excavation process
here in Colorado that impacts so many people in your
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district and the eighth Congressional as well as statewide. How
would you address the issue of energy here in the
state of Colorado. I know I've been sent a lot
of messages from listeners citing the dropping of gas prices
down under two dollars a gallon in some places even
but where does it stand right now?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Where does it need to go?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And just how important is that issue to you into
the eighth Congressional District.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Oh, It's incredibly important, you know. So I tell everybody
what we're seeing in Colorado right now is a push
pull between good Republican policies at the national level that
are promoting energy dominance, that are making more energy of
all forms, and the State of Colorado that's absolutely insistent
on getting rid of all energy they don't like, particularly coal,
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oil and gas. And so when gas prices are going down,
that has nothing to do with anything positive that state
Dems have done. They're literally trying to ban this stuff.
That's all good national policies that Republicans are implementing. One
thing that we know that we experience in Colorado particularly
is wildfires. Now, what the State of Colorado does is
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when air quality goes down for a variety of reasons.
It could be wildfires, it could be pollution from China,
could be wildfires in British Columbia, Canada. The State of
Colorado says air qualities down, and then they immediately turn
around and blame oil, gas and coal and the coal
fired stations for all of that stuff and say air
quality is bad. You have to shut off oil gas
and coal without looking at the sources of where this
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pollution is actually coming from. So I have another bill
up in committee this week called the Fire Act that
says that entities like the State of Colorado cannot punish oil,
gas and coal for things like wildfire smoke that comes
across international borders. Moreover, places like Colorado cannot punish oil, gas,
coal and other operators for things like a controlled burned
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good forest management techniques. And so that's another piece of
legislation that's aimed directly at the bureaucratic weaponization that the
State of Colorado has taken to punish our energy producers
and ultimately the people to keep the cost of our
utilities low.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And I love how you can trast and compare the
federal policies at the national level that the Republican Party
is espousing, and that starts with the Trump administration and
then goes on down from there. And I know you're
fully on board with those representative Evans, but then the
state policies that are obscuring and obstructing what could be
a thriving energy industry here in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It might also contribute if there was more.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Cooperation along those lines to cost of living and that
whole issue of affordability that you're talking about and that
we're going to hear President Trump talk about in the
Poconos in Pennsylvania as he takes his message on the road.
This is his most effective way of doing things. We've
seen in the campaign, he's his own best messenger. But
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why is it important to articulate these policies to bring
them directly to the American people, As this issue is
just so important, as you said, it's the top issue
that you're facing with your own constituents.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Well, I mean, I'll give you a statistics. September of
this year, September twenty twenty five, Denver, Colorado had the
highest rate of metro area in the country. That's not
because of national policies. That is because of the failures
of the state Democrats who have ruled this state with
an iron fist for seven years, and that's what's driving
up the cost of lip I tell everyone, if Colorado
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is like in the middle of the packs compared to
the other fifty states, thenk yeah, you can make an
argument that whatever's happening is the result of national policies.
Then we know that the reason these things are happening
in Colorado is because of Colorado specific policies. So when
we have the most expensive metro area in the country
in terms of inflation increases in the nation in September
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this year, we know that's a Colorado Democrat problem. Colorado
has lost more private sector jobs in the last year
or two than forty eight other states. We have the
second highest increase of private sector job loss in Colorado.
We're top five in the country for auto insurance and
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housing insurance. All of these things tied directly back to
the failures of state Democrat policies. I know those things.
I saw them for a decade as a cop I
fought them in the state legislature, and so everything that
I do in Congress, of course, has the big picture
of the nation, because I know I'm making laws for
the nation, but I'm also making sure that these laws
actually make people's lives better in blue states like Colorado,
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because I know the Democrats playbook and I am countering
it at every possible opportunity that I can here in Congress.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And that's the point that I want to follow up
on with Congressman Gabe Evans. Our guest here, Congressman, you're
a common sense America first, patriotic Republican and a conservative
in the truest sense, and you are governing that way.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
You are issuing bills.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
You just told us about one of them, and it's
not just the only one that you have co authored,
and sought to push forward in the House, but we're
seeing nationwide as a Democratic party being commandeered by the
hard left Zorin Mundani. In the New York City mayor's race,
we see Jasmine Crockett announcing a run for Senate in Texas,
and I got to have you respond to this sound
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Ian state from State Senator Julie Gonzalez. She has entered
the fray in the race for the Senate s he
currently held by Senator John Hickenlooper, who is not far
enough to the left for her liking.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
How do you describe yourself politically?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I describe myself as an organizer turns and although times.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Are you a Democratic Socialist?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
When I ran in twenty eighteen, I was really inspired
by the way that DSA was organizing young people in
a way that I thought was exciting and compelling. I
signed up as a member back then, and I actually
got elected, you know, with thanks to DSA's endorsement, all
of the doors that those volunteers came and knocked on
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my behalf. I'm no longer a member. My membership has lapsed.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Why is that?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Because I've been doing the work at the Capitol and
I don't go to the organizing meetings, and I don't
think that it's right to be a member, a card
carrying member of an organization that you're not you don't
actually show up to the meetings for Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
I guess I'm not so much patting you down for
a membership card.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm asking, like, in your head philosophically, are you a
Democratic socialist?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I am a Democrat?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Interesting gave she's running away from that label. I can
cite three reasons why. Candy City Baca on the Denver
City Council, Elizabeth Epps, Tim Hernandez in the Colorado House.
Democratic Socialists of America might be winning elsewhere, but even
here in Colorado that has gone very, very blue. They
have been knocked off in primaries. So she's backing away
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from that label. Why in your mind?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Because we see the failures of their policies all around us.
Colorado has one of the highest percentages of elected Democrat
socialists or Democrat Socialist sympathizers in the country. When I
was down in the state capitol, I believe we had
the second highest percentage of elected dsays of any state
in the country, after only New York. And we've seen
the results of their policies they've given us. Here in Colorado,
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we had the sixth largest ventanyl seizure in US history
in the southern part of the Denver metro area. Why
because dsays don't like cops and they think the bad
guys are the good guys. They've welcomed criminals and cartels
and drugs into our state, such that under the Biden administration,
fetanohl was the number one killer of Americans ages eighteen
to forty five. More Americans died from fentanyl every fifteen
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days than were killed in the entire September eleventh terrorist attacks.
I spent twelve years in the US Army. I deployed
overseas as part of Operation Enduring Freedom and part of
the global War on Terror. And so to see that
many Americans dying as a result of the failed policies
of folks like the Democrat socialists who want to defund
the police, who want to open our borders, who want
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the government to own the means of production, and who
are willing to use every possible tool that they're disposal
to regulate and control the lives of very day Americans.
I'm going to fight that and tell I don't have
any breath left to fight it because it's communism. It
is outright communism, and I don't stand for that.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
One final question gave in the final minute that we
have left. I spoke earlier with George Brockler DA in
the twenty third National Report Fox News Alicia Kunie right
here in Denver talking about the steep decline in fentanyl
potency here in the.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Hotbed of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
As you mentioned, activity for the cartels has come to
a fever pitch here, and yet there's progress being made
largely attributed to the Trump policies on this issue.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
How would you categorize that?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Look what happened as soon as Trump took office in
like late January or early February, I can't remember when
it was the Dea Drug Enforcement administration. They went out
and they started rounding up cartels and gang bangers and
organized criminals by the triple digits numbers. You know, they
had that big rate up in my area that netted
somewhere between forty and fifty TDA members. They did one
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in Colorado Springs over one hundred members down there. It's
federal law enforcement that's going out and cleaning all this
stuff up. It's started as soon as the new administration
was sworn in, and the new administration has the freedom
to be able to go out and get these gang bangers,
get these peddlers of poison out of our community. Because
we have a two vote majority in the United States
House a representative and on one of those two votes.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
He's an important seat in Congress, perhaps arguably the most
important seat in Congress. Republican and the eighth Congressional District.
Gave Evans follow him on ex a. Rep Gave Evans, Gabe,
thanks as always for your time, best of luck going forward.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Always enjoy being on with you.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
All Right, we'll take a break. We'll come right back
with more after this.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot takes,
churning the forty seventh president's epic interactions with the fake
news media.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So how involved are you going to get? I mean,
could we see you getting involved in European I want
to run the idea of states. I don't want to
run you. I'm involved in you very much. Might you
endure NATO every daddy?
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I mean, I have a lot to say about it.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Look, I raised you know the GDP from two percent
to five percent.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
The two percent they weren't paying in the five percent.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
They are paying.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
And they're paying it because when we send things over,
NATO pays for it, and I assume they give it
to you, Crown.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But Europe is being destroyed.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
NATO calls me daddy, he tells Dasha Burns of Politico.
Another hot take there from your President, Donald Trump five
seven seven three nine. The text line, in a moment,
I'm going to try to get through his money. Of
these clips from a ponderous sit down on Bill Maher's
kind of private you know, he smokes weed, drinks some booze,
hasn't a guest on. This is not his usual HBO
(20:30):
program Real Time. And Annakaspirion, who I want to like.
She's part of the Young Turks along with Chenk you Wiger,
and they're very very anti Semitic, anti Israel. That bothers me,
That really bothers me. But she started to get it
like the Democratic Party was fraudulent, she abandoned them. I'm like, okay,
(20:55):
I'll give her some time. Maybe she's just choking on
that red pill a little bit. And yet some of
her logic response reasoning on the topic of Israel.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It's just it's beyond the pale.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And Bill Maher, who's no conservative, but at least he's
got a level head on his shoulders in most ways.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
If you haven't heard the exchange, well you'll get something
out of it. This from Brian. You are so correct
on the utilities. Our coal goes right past us. We
don't even use the coal and it goes somewhere else.
We could be using that instead of natural gas or
in conjunction because it's still cheaper, but they don't want
to do it. Environmentalists have screwed over all of us.
(21:37):
Even most Democrats have been hijacked by their communist side.
We were talking about that with Gabe Evans in the
previous segment. Those socialists were minimal in their party and
then everybody's flip flopped over to the socialists soon to
be basically communist. They really want to be communists because
they want to have control and power over everything in
our lives. They have laws, and they want to make
laws on top of the laws that they're not even
(21:59):
trying to uphold. Brilliantly stated Brian, you know I'm a
John exter around fifty one. I grew up in the eighties.
We still did those cya drills where you want under
your desk in case of a nuclear attack. Cold War
still raging, Soviet Union. You know, mister Reagan said, we
will protect you. I don't subscribe to that point of view.
(22:20):
That's sting. If the Russians love their children too. You know,
watched that season with David Harber as the Sheriff and
Stranger Things, where he's a prisoner in the Soviet Union.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You'll get a good idea.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Watch Rocky four, watch Red Dawn, any of those from
the eighties. If you were called a communist in the eighties,
it was an insult.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
It was a joke.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It was a punchline, like, of course you're not a
communist like Yakov Smirnoff used to say, the comedian that
was big during that time.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
In Soviet Russia. You don't watch TV. TV watches you,
And he was not really joking.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Soviet Union was an abject failure, a disaster of epic proportions.
Bread lines, which Bernie Sanders talked about as.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
If oh, that's a good thing. You got people in
London waiting for bread, and it's wanting to get food. No,
it's not a good thing. When did capitalism become a
dirty word? There was a line from a movie Michael
Douglas portraying Gordon Gecko in Wall Street And.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Again, yeah he's a villain, but he's kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
And he says, greed, for lack of a better word,
is good.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And you know what it is. And I'll tell you
why greed drives innovation. And I think that's the basis
of the speech from the movie.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I haven't seen in a while. Maybe i'll watch it tonight.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But those of you who are picking up what I'm
putting down, when there is open competition, when there is
minimal regulation. Notice I didn't say no regulation. I am
not an anarchist. I'm a libertarian to a point. We
should have guardrails for competent but the free flow of ideas,
the free flow of innovation, invention, ingenuity, hustle, hard work
(24:09):
that should drive not only the American economy, but the
world economy. And we did that in the American century
the twentieth century. Why because we had an environment that
was conducive to research and development. To that innovation I
talked about, to invention, to the investment in good ideas
(24:30):
and people and hiring people, and the race to build
a better mouse trap or a better automobile from the
Ford model t to the present day, and the competition
drove consumerism and capitalism and what was best for those
who would buy those products. Capitalism, for lack of a
(24:51):
better word, is good. Communism. Socialism is doomed and destined
for failure where it's been tried. I will cite Cuba,
I will cite the Soviet Union, I will cite the
former Yugoslavia. The only reason China still stands up is
because they have some kind of weird hybrid economy in
(25:12):
which they have harnessed all that is good about capitalism
without allowing its people to enjoy the fruits of that
labor through sheer power, domination, and subjugation. Within the People's
Republic of China, it's the only place where communism.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Has ever thrived in that being.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
In quotes, Venezuela once was a thriving country with immense
oil capacity, and it was driven into the dirt by
communist dictators. And now people flee Venezuela for here, people
(25:51):
flee Cuba for here. If communism was such a great idea.
Why aren't people in the West, let's say, the United States,
Great Britain, France, flea for the likes of China, Venezuela, Cuba,
because these are failed policies.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Gabe Evans said it so well. He is so sharp.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
He is really a rising star in the Republican Party,
not only here in Colorado but nationally because he gets it.
He understands the dangers of socialism. And even in that
previous segment, as we were lampooning the likes of the
state Senator Julie Gonzalez for not a Democratic socialist, you
(26:31):
won't find a membership card in my pocket.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Don't look over here. It's not in my purse. It's
not over here. Oh, they helped me get elected. But hi, uh,
why would you run from that?
Speaker 7 (26:43):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
You know, from each according to his ability, and to
each according to his need. You take from the providers,
You take from those who can work, who want to work,
who innovate an event. You steal from them because you
know they're jerks, and give to the lazy people who
are sitting around doing nothing, thumbs up their bums, no innovation,
(27:07):
no drive, and you just give them a guaranteed basic
income for every month of their lives. They don't have
to work, they don't have to strive, they don't have
to set goals, they don't have to pursue those dreams.
You don't have to do any of that because we're
gonna punish the rich. We're gonna tax them into oblivion.
You're gonna take from them, We're gonna reapproportion that. Well,
(27:28):
we're gonna redistribute it to these bums over here that
don't do anything. Does that sound like a good idea?
Do we reward failure and punish success? Or should we
reward success to prevent failure? For all these AOC's Zoron
Mundani's Bernie Sanders that criticize the billionaires, those are the
(27:54):
job creators. Those are the CEOs. Jeff Bezos, say what
you will, kind of weird guy. How many jobs has
Amazon created over the last twenty years in the United
States and elsewhere everywhere Amazon? You might not like it,
Corporate putsmanpa businesses, Main Street affects them, Sure, but look
(28:18):
at the model. Look at what Amazon has innovated and
been able to do. How many of you will go
home tonight and order something from Amazon and have it
delivered to your doorstep.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I've done it. It's a tremendous convenience.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
You can order Christmas gifts in your pajamas online on
your phone and have it come to you get wrapped, even.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
For the holiday season. And that's supposed to be a
bad thing.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
It is up to people who are competitive in the
market of ideas and the interest of consumers to come up,
like I said with that mouse trap. And once it's done,
once you have an Amazon, well it's difficult to unring
that bell.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But the interest of consumers will always drive the American economy,
and that's how it should be. You want us to
buy electric vehicles, okay, make them affordable, make them convenient,
make them efficient, make them competitive with the gas powered
automobiles that most people drive these days, and then consumers
(29:29):
will buy them. Don't give us tax incentives. Make the
product better, make it more reliable, make it more affordable.
Once that's done, well, now people will choose. They will
prefer to drive electric cars. Don't force that pill down
our throats. What you should drive an electric vehicle?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
How much does it cost to repair the battery in
one of those things. No thanks, I'll pass, especially gas
now two dollars a gallon. Oh, we got to make
it more expensive. We got to provide disincentives for people
to not dri I have gasoline powered automobiles and somehow,
you know, stretch their economic dollar and buy electric vehicles instead. Again,
(30:09):
I will pass, respectfully, with all due respect the three
Bobby would say in Talladega Nights, closing out your tex
five seven, seven, three nine, Ryan Schuling live on this Tuesday,
rolls on after these words from the Great Sting the Russians,
hoping they love their children too. Written in the midst
(30:31):
of the Cold War the eighties, the Soviet Union would collapse.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
President Reagan would.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Implore mister Gorbagshaw, tear down this wall, and that would
happen in nineteen eighty nine, this Texter sending in blast
from the past.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That's right, the real Ralph Ryan Gecko Shooling.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Well, let's go to that clip right now, shall we.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
The new law of evolution in corporate America, it seems
to be survival of the unfitness. Well, in my book,
you either do it right or you get eliminated. In
the last seven deals that I've been involved with there
were two point five million stockholders who have made a
(31:18):
pre tax profit of twelve billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I am not a destroyer of companies. I am a
liberator of them.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that greed, for lack
of a better word, is good. Greed is right, Greed works,
Greed clarifies, cuts through and captures the essays of the
evolutionary spirit. Greed in all of its forms, greed for life,
(31:58):
for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge
of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not
only save tell our paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation
called the USA. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Now I know it's one of the seven Deadly Sins.
And in the eighties, this was a hallmark movie of
that time.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The eighties were a time of decadent success in America,
in sharp contrast to the nineteen seventies, which were morose,
which were dark, which were depressing, with the Cold War
still raging, Vietnam, Watergate, New York City was a slum.
President Carter was a disaster and a failure. And everything
(32:49):
turned with the Miracle on Ice in nineteen eighty and
the Reagan victory of nineteen eighty and the Reagan years
of the nineteen eighties. Now you substitute greed with hunger thirst.
What he talks about knowledge, love, ideas, excellence, drive. Take
greed out of that. And he's right, He's absolutely right.
(33:13):
And that's what made America great in the eighties. And
for lack of a better word, that drive, that hunger,
that greed is making America great once again with Donald
Trump as president.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I'll talk to you tomorrow. Ryan Shuling live right here
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