Rep. Scott Bottoms (R-15) stays for a second hour with Ryan to discuss the issues, starting with Colorado's completely insane 'Adult Competency to Stand Trial' law (HB24-1034) which somehow passed through both houses of the General Assembly with bipartisan support - including from two of Scott's GOP primary opponents in the governor's race, Sen. Barb Kirkmeyer (R-23) and Sen. Mark Baisley (R-4).
Also, Ryan asks him about his stance on transgender rights as well as whether his status as a pastor in an Assembly of God congregation (Church At Briargate) will inhibit his ability to win in a general election against presumptive Democrat nominee Michael Bennet.
Also, Ryan asks him about his stance on transgender rights as well as whether his status as a pastor in an Assembly of God congregation (Church At Briargate) will inhibit his ability to win in a general election against presumptive Democrat nominee Michael Bennet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Aurora, Colorado, known for the trend of Aragua problem, now
has another big issue, a spiraling mental health crisis fueling
psychotic behavior. And there's even a George Soros angle here.
A registered sex offender could have his charges dropped after
a Soros backed prosecutor is considering leaving the charges behind
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because he was found. The suspect found to be mentally
incompetent to stand trial. Solomon Gallagan, who identifies as a woman,
was accused of trying to kidnap a boy last year
and was charged with one count of attempted kidnapping. Police
say surveillance video shows him approaching students playing at recess
this is a horrifying scene before trying to grab that
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eleven year old boy. But now a spokesperson for the
DA tells us that they have not yet dropped the charges,
but they intend to do so, and the suspect will
not be released out to the public, but will instead
be civilly committed for mental health treatment, meaning he could
be released at some point in the future. But he's
also been released from jail before a local outlet reveals
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that prosecutors have dropped felony charges against him at least
four times since twenty eighteen. The suspects sisters as her
brother has been in and out of jail for twelve years,
diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, but was never institutionalized
because of a shortage of beds in mental health centers.
But the County da Amy Patton is set to dismiss
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those charges as required by law if someone's found mentally
incompetent to stand trial, and now furious residents want her recalled.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Laura Ingram, this was a national story. It's an embarrassment
and a disgrace. It's been a topic djure on this
program multiple times. Where did this insanity begin? Well, our
Colorado General Assembly on the issue of competency in House
built twenty four ten thirty four entitled adult competency to
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stand Trial. This made it through the Colorado House by
a vote of forty eight to twelve, including many votes
from Republicans like Rose Paglisi for instance. Now twelve only
twelve Republicans voted against it, led by my guest who
stays with us for this hour. Representative Scott Bottom's representative
Brandy Bradley also voted against it. Kenda Graf voted against it.
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Lisa Frazelle voted against it. Richard Holtorf voted against it,
and in a conversation I had with Ty Winter, he
was very adamant. He called me directly and I respect
that he had voted to advance the bill, but not
for the bill. He voted against the bill upon the
Senate amendments being added to it. Mike Linch also one
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of those twelve Republicans voting against it, but far too
many Republicans voted for it, and even worse, even worse,
as the bill made its way to the Senate, there
were amendments added and it passed unanimously yes, with the
votes of Senator Barb Kirkmeyer and Senator Mark Baisley, both
of whom are running for governor here in the state
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of Colorado. Scott, you hear this, and it's not an
isolated incident. It's not just Solomon Gallaghan. It's Dabisa, a
frame for Sheriff Steve Reims up in Welld County, who
we had to let go because of this eedyotic law.
It was a tragedy with a young woman who I
spoke with. Her mother was mowed down in a McDonald's
drive through parking lot by a maniac who then when
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was asked at trial, do you know what this means
you you know, being declared incompetent, to which the defendant said, yeah,
it means all of this goes away. Those are just
three examples. Scott, How in the world did this happen?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, this one really did catch me off guard in
a lot of different ways. I had been having some
conversations with with Republicans ahead of time, and we have
there's a few of us that get together and we
kind of talk about these bills that are coming up
and what's going on. And we had this discussion that
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this is a bad bill, this is going to put
people at risk. And when it first went through, you know,
to say you vote on it to advance it's that's
not really, that's not a thing. In the House, you
don't vote on a bill to advance it. You either
vote on it yes or no, and then it goes
to the Senate. If it would have been voted on
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completely with no amendments in the Senate, it would have
been passed. So if you vote in the House, you
better If you vote to pass a bill, you are
expecting that it will pass or you should not vote
that way because you don't have a guarantee it's going
to come back from the Senate. The Senate doesn't have
changed anything. It just passes, that's right. And so we
had these discussion because I think the first time, and
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you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think
when it went through the first time, when it got
voted on the House of the first time, there's only
two of us that voted no. And then it went
over to the Senate, they changed some things. When it
came back, I think there was what eleven or twelve
of that voted notice us. All right, So but here's
the thing is, I was having this conversation with some
of US Republicans, and I had this conversation in the
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caucus room too with our Republicans. Is this is going
to make victims out of people in Colorado. This is
going to put people in danger. There will be people
that will be murdered and raped, attacked. And I at
the time I said put our children in danger. I
didn't know that some guy was going to walk onto
a school playground and tried to kidnap kids directly off
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that playground. Okay, the event that you're talking about in
the drive through that actually happened right north with Colorado Springs,
right in Monument and so and he drugged the lady
three hundred and fifty feet with her daughter running along
beside the car screaming yell and please, you're killing my mom.
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He knew what he was doing, but I told him, Hugh,
if you but see, we don't like to put people
in jail nowadays, even Republicans struggle with this. Well, how
dare we hold anybody accountable? But here's what you want
to really dig deeper into this. Okay, there's nobody's talking
about this side of it is because this is part
of the conversation I have, and I've had people say, well,
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nobody knew, nobody could see this coming. In fact, I
had a press conference I did. I think Senator Kirkmeyer
is the one who said nobody saw this coming. I'm like, well,
I did. I voted No. How else can I how
else can I prove that I saw that I saw
this coming?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So, and I did use examples of this. But here
is part of the problem with it is, we took
just one bill alone this last spring. We took one
hundred and eighty million dollars away from mental health. Okay,
as far as I know, and I'm may be wrong
about this, but as far as I know, there's only
one facility in the state of Colorado. Is that a
true penal mental health set up? Okay, so we've shut
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everything else down. We don't want mental health money, we
don't want mental health move moving forward. And here's the reason.
Why would you cut one hundred and eighty million from
mental health if you really believe that that's a crisie.
I believe the number one issue in our state right
now is mental illness. I believe that completely.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And you would say that is the primary culprint behind
the gun crimes that we're seeing both internationally here domestically
as well well.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But here's the insider baseball kind of stuff that doesn't
get talked about. And I think this might be the
reason why some people voted yes that shouldn't have okay,
is we cannot actually address mental health or mental illness
in the state of Colorado because the number one issue
that involves mental illness in the state of Colorado is
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the transgender ideology. That is a mental illness issue, that
is not a LGB is a sexual preference. TQ plus
is an ideology that people prey upon, like autistic kids.
They're the number one target for grooming and these kind
of things. And nobody wants to talk about the trains.
Is Gallaghan that you're talking about was a transgender guy
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and he tried to kidnap this kid. Well, almost all
do your homework on this. Almost all not you, the people.
Almost all of the mass shooting, school shootings and things
like that in the last ten years have all been
transgender people are directly connected to same thing with the
Charlie Kirk shooting. Correct, right, nobody's addressing this. Nobody's addressing
There has been multiple articles done by different liberal groups
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conservative groups that are saying the number one most violent
demographic in the United States today is the transgender community.
Now that doesn't mean all transgenders fall in the same category.
Some are actually innocent kids that are being manipulated quite honestly.
But here's the thing is, we can't spend money on
mental health and actually go down that road, because not
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only would would Gallaghan not been released, but we would
have to address his transgender issues because that's a mental
illness problem that we have people that are not struggling
with the mental illness. They don't wake up one day
and go, I think I'm the other sex. Right, this
is something that and the cuttings issues. For years and
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years as a pastor, I would counsel with people that
were cutting, you know, that would come in and their
arms would be cut all down, and their legs would
be cut, and we would send them to psychiatrist, psychologist, therapist.
I would counsel with them all these other kind of things.
Why because everybody recognized that that was mental illness. Okay,
But now we cut genitals off of kids and we
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call that good mental health and necessary and we fund
it from the state. We actually are destination state for
this and cross the entire United States, funded by the
taxpayers of Colorado. Anybody in the United States can have
a transition surgery at the taxpayer expense in Colorado. And
then when somebody commits a crime, then we say, well,
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they're not competent to stand trial. Well, which is it.
They're confident enough to cut genitals off, but they're not
confident enough to stand trial. This is putting people in
Colorado at risk, and we are making Colorado victims by
this bill, and I have verbalized this over and over
for two years now. I voted no against it, and
I can't seem to get anybody in the public to
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realize this is a major, major problem.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Representative Scott Bodoms joining US candidate for governor on the
Republican side. He'll be part of the forum that Mandy
Connell and I will be moderating on Saturday, January tenth
at the Double Tree by Hilton Greeley at Lincoln Park.
Steve Wells and Sheriff Steve Reams helping put this all together.
That'll be from one thirty pm to three thirty pm.
Former Congressman Greg Lopez will be part of it. The
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aforementioned state Senators Mark Baisley and Barb Kirkmeyer will be joining,
along with Sheriff Jason Mike Sel and Scott Bottoms. Victor
Marx has declined to attend this particular event. Now. On
the general election front, Scott, let's say you get the nomination,
as you are confident that you will win Colorado for
whatever reason, I've just noticed the lay of the land
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since I've lived here over these last seven years. Loves
abortion on the whole, loves marijuana on the whole. Seventy
nine was passed to codify abortion into state law at
any time during a woman's pregnancy, up to the moment
of birth, for any reason or no reason at all.
And I know you and I stand firmly against that,
and I think I would hope most voters in the
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middle would stand against that. However, you are a pastor
at an Assembly of God church, you are stridently pro life.
Your stance on marijuana is I think it's dumb. I
should it be legal in Colorado? I wish it wasn't
legal anywhere. And now that it's getting stronger and stronger
and stronger now and sometimes being laced with fentanyl, we're
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killing each other and we're fighting far right to smoke pot.
Would you work to make it illegal in Colorado? Or
do you think that's a fool's errand and just not
possible to do anymore? Here is the genie out of
the bottle, so to speak?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
With that, you know, it's an interesting conversation. I don't
actually get that question this the first time. But my
personal thing is is I don't like you know, we
made it legal and then what two years later, the
Denver Post came out with this big article and the
Gazette had a similar one that said smoking marijuana and
minors has gone up by sixty percent. Who saw this coming, Well,
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I think everybody, So you know, there is some danger
to it. That's not like one of my top things.
I don't okay it just emotionally with it. I just
think it's dumb for people to destroy their brains like that.
And I think twenty five years from now we're going
to see a whole generation that is that is just
you know, mind numbed. But it's not a top priority
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for me.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So let's say it's UV Bennett and I'm just playing
Devil's advocate here. You know what's coming from the other side.
They're gonna scare women. He's gonna take away your right
to choose an abortion, which has been codified in state law.
He's a Holy Roller pastor from the Assembly of God church.
He's way too radical, far right to win in Colorado,
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to govern in Colorado. They're gonna throw all of that
at you. And yet you have stances on these common
sense issues like this competency law, which I would have
to believe the average Colorado would want overturned. How do
you navigate that as a general election candidate in a
state that's predisposed to lean left and vote blue.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, this is the abortion issue is a big one. Obviously,
I get asked that often. I am disappointed that the
state of Colorado voted it in constitutionally. So the way
you said it a minute ago, I'm not trying to
split hairs. But it's not just semantical. It's actually important.
It's not just made law, it's actually made constitution correct
constitutional law. Now so before because I've run an anti
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murdering baby's bill every session I've been in there, I've
run a bill to try to show people, at least
make it law that you had to tell people there
was an option after you took the abortion pill. It's
called abortion pill reversual. And then they made a law
that same session that said that's illegal to tell people
the truth about that. So I still strongly stand against abortion.
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I do believe this is a family issue that never
gets addressed. It's the idea that somehow the guys are
not part of the conversation. I have people in my
church that have had abortions that we walk through this.
I've counseled a lot of people over the years, believe
it or not. It's not the unforgivable sin, it's not
the unpardonable sin. But I do struggle with the people
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that think killing their own babies is okay. I struggle
with that now because it's constitutional, there's nothing as a
governor I can do. It has to go to about
initiative again. I hope somebody brings that back up, because
here's some of the dirty little secret on this. Forty
percent of all the people that voted yes for at
seventy nine said they would not have if they knew
that the state was going to pay for it, which
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I taxpayer is going to pay for, which I think
is a little naive. The idea that somehow you didn't
think that was the next step is I think wilfully naive.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, if you remember Scott, there was a lot of
money that came in dark money and otherwise to prop
up Amendment seventy nine to put out television ads that
people would watch. And you know, a low information voter,
somebody that doesn't really dig in very deeply, they might
just say no, No. I believe in a woman's right
to choose, So I'm going to vote for Amendments seventy
nine because they didn't look under the hood like you
just said.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah. And I do believe that women have autonomy of
their own body. I just don't believe that baby's their body.
I believe it's a different body. Because here's my part
of my argument that has been illusive illustrative of showing
that people don't really believe what they say is I
believe that women had the right to say no to
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the vaccine. That's their own body. But all of a sudden,
all these pro choice people were like, no, you're getting
the JAB no matter what. Or you'll lose your job,
you'll be kicked out of the military, all these other things,
because why they don't really believe in pro choice. There
are some people that believe in pro choice, but most
of the political leadership that pushes all this stuff, they're
just pro abortion. They're not pro choice or pro abortion.
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That's a different subject. I believe very strongly that the
family should be involved with the husband or the guy,
whoever the donor is to that baby. Why doesn't he
have any rights in this it's his DNA too. And
so there's a lot of things that never get talked
about I believe in a comprehensive family approach to this,
counsel with the mother, counsel with the father, all these
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kind of things, but that gets taken off the table.
So I even tried to pass a law this last
spring that said that CDPH should step into the arena
of second and third trimester abortions, because right now there's
health rulings on first trimester abortions, but the mortality rate
of the mother goes up quite a bit, and second
and then astronomically high during third try man and I
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said during the committee, I can't save babies. That's constitutionalized.
We're going to murder babies in Colorado, is what our
constitution says. I hate that, but I can't do anything
about that as a legislator or as a governor. But
I'm trying to save women's lives. And they voted unaisy.
Democrats voted unaucemently against my bill. And all I was
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asking to do is let CDPH e make a ruling.
CDPH wouldn't even return our phone calls, wouldn't come to
the committee hearing because they don't want to take a
step on that because it is such a risk to
the mother. The mortality rate for the moms is crazy
hw in that third trimester, and nobody wants to talk
about it. Moms are dying and I have proof of
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this in our state where mothers have died in planned parenthood.
Senators Sinners and I have the nine to one one calls.
I have everything, and I talked about this at the
committee and they just act like nothing to see here.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
You just articulated that so well. Representative Scott Bottom's our guest,
and yet you know this, Scott, we are losing on
this issue and messaging. Is that simply a dollars and
cents thing that the pro abortion crowd, planned parenthood, the left,
the Democratic Party here in Colorado, the machine that funds this.
It's just that we're outgunned on this issue.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Is that it? Yeah, I think there's a few other
layers to it. I think there is a I think
there is a selfishness that's involved with this that says,
I'm going to live my life like I want to
and it's better. It's easier for me to believe that
this is not an issue, or that's not a problem,
or that nothing's happening here. But because most people don't
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ever take time and slow down and actually watch how
an abortion happens. Yeah, they don't know what happens to
the child. They also don't I've had people say when
we talk about selling body parts, I've had people say, well,
there's no such thing there. Nobody's selling these baby's body parts.
It's a billion dollar industry every year, the selling of
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these baby's body parts. And so I don't know. I
think there's a wilful, naive tey also that's involved with this,
But I don't know. It's just a it's a plague
upon our country right now. It's so painful in my
heart when I sit and talk with a woman that
had an abortion twenty years later, they're still struggling with that.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Representative Scott botoms Our, I guess can you do one
more segment with us? Yes, sir, okay, we're going to
do that. We got some questions from our texters at
five seven, seven, three nine. You can send those in.
I'll be relaying those to Scott he as a candidate
for governor on the Republican side. He's joining us here
on Ryan Schuling Live. When we continue after this, you
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Ryan Great Show. Please thank your guests for his time,
so much valuable information. We need more time with these
candidates to learn not only who they are, but what's
really happening behind the scenes. That's so true and representative.
Scott Bottoms has been very generous with his time today.
A reminder, any of the candidates are welcome here for
a full hour, and he's going for the better part
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of two hours with us, and that is an open
invitation any of the candidates out there. They know where
to find me, I think, or they can find Shannon
on the other side of the glass. The Detroit Connection
continues there with Patty. Thanks for that text along lines
of what we were talking about a little bit during
the break. Scott, I want to get where you come
down on this, because some of your comments, let's say,
in the previous segment, would be weaponized used by Democrats
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to say that you're transphobic, You're against trans people their
right to exist, their rights in the public sphere. And
one of the groups that I'm closely affiliated with are
the log Cabin Republicans, and I'm very good friends with
Vademar Archiletta, the former president of that organization. It's a
great group. They're kind of going along the lines what
you're saying, gays against groomers is a prominent group out there.
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Is that a group you would want to seek out
the endorsement of, to work with to campaign on. Behalf
of what is your stance on those issues in particular,
say gay marriage, gay adoption? Are you a transphobe? Are
you anti trans? How would you articulate your position when
those attacks are definitely coming against you?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, I've had those attacks for years. It's interesting if
you actually just preach out of the Bible, you're going
to have attacks, right, there's somebody's not going to like
something that you're saying. I don't have a problem with
the gay community or the transgender community. Now again, they're
not the same thing, and log Cabin Republicans and Gays
against groomers articulate that fairly well. I've been connected with
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and even supported in some of my bills that I've
run from Gays against Groomers. They're a very strong group
that fights against this grooming tality. In fact, I've even said,
as a pastor in my church and other churches in
ministry settings that the church has been very asleep on
this subject, and it takes the gays against groomers to
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actually fight. I think that's egregious that that on a
subject that literally, the church I think should be leading
the conversation. And nobody says anything, nobody talks about it,
nobody does anything. And uh, and people are hurting, people
are being destroyed through this, through this transgender ideology, and
and the church is silent. But then you've got the
gay community that's saying, wait a second, not on our watch,
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you know. So so yeah, I'm not I'm not transphobic.
I'm not homophobic all those kind of things. I don't
care if a guy wants to wear a dress. Okay,
that one of our representatives in the in the house
is transgender. I don't care if he wears a dress.
I've never attacked him for that. I've never said anything
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about it to him. But when you start saying I
have to do something here, or I have to say
certain words, or now, I don't care who you are,
you come after our children. I'm coming after you one
hundred percent. And the and the transgender community is at
large coming after our kids. They they've said it publicly,
they have parades about it. All this kind of stuff.
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That's a different subject. A guy wearing a dress is
not the same thing. Stay away from our kids, don't
don't try to control my speech. That's Marxism. You can
call it transgenderism. But when you're telling me I have
to call somebody some or have to do something, or
have to fit into a category, that's Marxism. I'm not
going to go with that. I cannot in good conscience
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call a guy a woman, because why, I'm not a liar.
That's the biggest thing. If he wants to call himself
a woman, do it all day long. I don't care.
I have counseled a lot of people over the years
with this. I have very close friends that are in
all of those communities we are. Our church has done
outreaches into the gay community in Colorado Springs have been very,
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very successful. We don't hate the gay community. I get
that that attack will always be there. Here's one of
the biggest ways that I get the attack is you're
a pastor. Are you going to are you going to
turn Colorado into a theocracy? You're going to turn Colorado
into a church, make everybody read the Bible, will make
everybody pray, all these kind of things. I've been a
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pastor for thirty five years. I can't even get my
church to do that stuff. How is anybody expecting me
to get the whole state to do this? My job
security is the fact that people are broken and that
we're sinners and we have problems. Right. I wish my
whole church would would pray like they're supposed to and
really seek God and have relationship with the Lord and
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read the Bible and take care of the widows and
the orphans and the homeless and all these kind of
I can't even get my church to do that. How
is everybody thinking I'm going to get the whole state
to do that? And so, yeah, these are just these
are just interesting ways for people to attack something that
makes them either nervous or afraid or quite honestly, some
people are incomplete a stance against any kind of biblical
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values for our communities.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Not long ago. And I would refer to this as
a tremendous own goal to borrow a soccer term, and
we're really I split with Dave william as the party chair.
Was an email that went out on his authorization that
said something along lines of God hates flags, and that's
reminiscent of the protests at military funerals of the Westboro
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Baptist Church, which we certainly don't want to have anything
to do with anything in common with in Valdimar Archiletta,
who I mentioned my good friend who was the president
of the log CAMN Republicans conducted an interview with Kyle
Clark where he was asked about that when that whole
controversy hit the fan Scott, what was your reaction and
response to that God hates flags?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah? That one. I think that was an extremely bad
decision by Dave. Okay, I don't think. I don't remember
actually talking to Dave about this, and maybe we did,
he could come on and correct me if I'm wrong
about this. I don't think I actually talked to him
about that. I don't think he was trying to make
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it sound like that. But it was just too opportune
at the time, with all the volatility with the flags
and with the gay community. It was it was just
bad judgment to say that God does not hate homosexuals. Okay,
I don't hate homosexuals. The Bible has no talk about
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how God hates gay people. It is not it's not there. Okay.
Now there is a redemptive plan because I had this
asked in a town hall recently, well, do you think
homosexuality is a sin? Well, yes, I do think that.
That's romans One says it. I can't go around the Bible.
Either I believe the Bible or I don't. If I'm
going to be a pastor, I have to believe the Bible.
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And one of my critiques of pastors is when you
nitpick through the Bible and say what it says this
or it doesn't say this? What Kate romans One says,
it's a sin, that's a New Testament, because I've also
had people say, what's not in the New Testament? Yeah,
it is. That's not the only place either. But here's
the thing. Does that mean God hates homosexuals? No. It
also says that gossip has sin. Nobody likes to address
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that in the church and have the people that are
gospel or about gospel being about the Bigay community. So
you're like, if it's a sin, it's a sin. And
there you can go to Galatians chapter five, verse nineteen
issues where it starts where there's a list of sins.
It says you won't get into heaven with these sins
in your life. Okay, Now, different people look at grace
differently and stuff. But I'm just saying this is what
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the Bible says. Does that mean God hates all these people?
That does not make sense. Jesus didn't die on the
cross for people because he hates them. He died on
the cross because he wants to save him. He wants
to bring grace, he wants to bring relationship back. And
our sin is what separates us from God. It's not
because God hates us. It's because we're choosing something besides him,
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and that's what sin is. And so and there's lists
all through the Bible, the idea that somehow I hate
gay people, or I hate transgenders, or God hates It's
just not true. But it's convenient if you if you
like to attack people like me, or you like to
attack God, these are convenient conversations.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Being very greedy with your time. Representative Scott Bottoms.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Hey, I could stay all day if I like my
stake medium rare.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Okay, Well, all right, duly noted. We'll work on that
stake during the break. I think Shanman can cook something up,
maybe in the microwave in the Freedom studio, so he's
got one going there, but we'll close out this hour
Representative Scott Bottoms. A lot of your questions still to
get to at five seven, seven, three nine after this
on Ryan Schuling Live, ramping up our second hour, Representative
(29:35):
Scott Bottoms, Republican candidate for governor, joining us kind enough
to be so generous with his time, and during the break, Scott,
we kind of touched on what the big issue is
now from the left, and I find this hilarious, and
that's affordability. And we know here in Colorado we've been
under almost exclusive Democrat rules, certainly for the entire time
that I've lived here, going back to twenty eighteen. And
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it's like the arsonists who shows up to the fire
saying I know how to put it out. The Gallagher
Amendment repeal without a plan to replace it, and then
we had to go through the legislative process. You were
a part of this, I believe, to try to correct that.
And we've seen property taxes you mentioned yours rocketing up
five hundred dollars just during the break. It didn't happened
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during the break very recently for you personally, how would
you address writ large affordability crisis. Democrats are running on
this and specifically here in Colorado, cost of living, particularly
when it comes to a home mortgage, property taxes, things
like that.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, this is a major major issue for the state
of Colorado because we've been crashing and burning in this
arena for a long time now. The legislation that's been
coming out of the House has specifically gone after property ownership,
private property ownership all three years that I've been in
the House, and I'm sure it's going to happen again
here in a month when Governor Polus comes back to
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give is the fourth state of the state I've been
in the room for. He says every year, there's no
reason for private property ownership, right, Why do people in
Colorado need on property? Just live near bus stations and
train states. That's what he says. It's it's on video.
You don't You don't have to take my word for it.
Look it up.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Is that what he's gonna do?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Fact check me. No, he's not gonna do that. And
so I do a lot of events all over rule Colorado.
In fact, I'm tomorrow I'm going down in the southern
part of our state here and having a meeting with
quite a few ranchers that want to talk to me
about ranching and what that means. What train station are
they going to live by? What what bus station are
they going to live by? This is just craziness. In fact,
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Governor pulls the first year he said this, he said,
don't don't get out in the middle of a blizzard
and try to drive your car in the middle of
a blizzard. Just just go to the train station, take
the train. I'm like, so, now you're walking in a blizzard.
You're not sitting in a car, You're walking. The guy's
off in some different ways. There's something wrong about his
thought process. But here's the thing is, we're trying. We're
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passing laws that are intentionally going after individuals. In the
state of Colorado. The governor does not want anybody to
own property, doesn't want anybody to be wealth. We've lost
forty percent of businesses in five years. And some people say,
well that was because of the pandemic. No, because other
states opened up fairly quickly during the pandemic and they
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have a net gain of businesses Tennessee, Oklahoma, Texas, Florida,
they have net gains of small businesses in their states.
We have lost forty percent. It's because of our regulations,
our taxes, and our direct attack. We have passed passed
so much less legislation that goes after property owners. You know,
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the people that have owned a house for twenty five
years and then they retire downsize into another home and
rent that out. It is almost impossible for them to
do that now because all of the laws that have
been passed. It says that the people that are living
in their house don't have to pay rent, and you
can't make them. You can't make them not have pets,
you can't put any kind of guidelines on your own home.
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This is destroying our market. And here's a little secret
that a lot of people did not know and have
not known. And when I say this in townhalls, I
thought everybody kind of knew this, But they don't. We
just started building condos and townhomes again last year. This
is the first time in eight years that a townhome
or a condo has been built in the state of Colorado.
Most people don't know that. Well, why were they not built?
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Because we passed the legislation to make it so easy
to sue townhome and condo builders that they quit doing it. Well,
that is one of the steps in affordability of home
ownership is you know you have people that live. I
was down in Cortes and there was a group that
is trying to stop people from owning mobile I mean yeah,
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mobile homes down there. Well, you got mobile homes, and
you got modular homes, you got townhomes, condos that people buy,
and that is how you work your way into a
bigger home or an iicer home or whatever time. And
we're taking some of those off the table. So you
either you rent or you have to be able to
afford a six hundred thousand dollars home. That is craziness.
(34:09):
But the laws that we are passing is what is
making that happen. It's not We have a five point
two percent supply over demand in Colorado right now in housing.
Nobody knows that. Nobody's saying that that's an easy findable statistic.
But the reason is because and this is a weird
thing that's going on nationwide too. It's not just Colorado,
but it's worse statistically in Colorado is the supply is
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more than the demand, but the demand they're not actually
going out and buying the homes. There is the demand,
but they're settling for something in a rental mentality, which
is more of a transient mentality when it comes to
property ownership and those kind of things. So therefore you
don't invest in the state as much. You don't invest
and these are just general statistics, right, Well, this is
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what the governor wants. He doesn't want people owning homes.
He wants renting because you have a different mindset for
your community when you're rent all right, when you buy
a home, you're putting down different kind of roots, right,
So he doesn't want that. And we're not building affordable housing.
We're just building and it's all over the place and
its apartments and now we've started building townhomes and condos
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again and that'll help. But when i'm governor at through
executive order, we're going to fix his stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Day one, Representative Scott Bottom's our guests closing out with
this question. You mentioned the attack on individual rights. There
have been so many horrific bills passed through the General
Assembly signed into law by Governor Poulis Kyle from Thornton.
With this very important one, What are Scott's thoughts on
any candidate possibly splintering off and running is an affiliated
if they don't win in the primary. And then adding this,
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what is your view on the Second Amendment? And what
would he do for all these laws the legislature just passed.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, splintering off, anybody has that right. I don't think
it's wise in this context. But yeah, you can do
whatever you want. Does it hurt people when that happens?
Potentially it depends. And you know, you see different elections,
you see national ones where sometimes somebody splinters off and
it hurts one of the parties or something. I don't
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know everybody's This is a free republic. You can do
what you want, don't I don't begrudge anybody of that.
If somehow that hurts me and I don't win an
election for it, I'll just be angry for a few years,
you know. So, But this is a republic. This is
what we're allowed to do. You can do anything. You
can run as a libertarian, green, independent, affiliate or whatever.
(36:30):
The second part about the Second Amendment, I'm very much
a constitutional person. The Constitution is what you know. We're
about to celebrate two hundred and fifty years of that document.
People say of our country that's not what we're celebrating.
We were already kind of here, but we're celebrating a
document that is a that is a founding existence of
how we govern ourselves. Okay. It is the most amazing
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governing doctrine ever to be created, in my opinion, and
people are constantly attacking and takeing and apart. One of
the things that I'm going to do with this Second Amendment,
because I'm a constitutionalist on it, no infrigement whatsoever. Even
having to have a concealed carrying permit as an infringement.
In my opinion. It's somebody business whether I'm carrying a
firearm or not. But the Constitution says I'm allowed to. Okay.
(37:16):
But here's the thing, is what am I going to
do as governor day one executive order? Mark my words,
I'm going to say, We're going to go back to
the constitution in the State of Colorado, and so a
lot of these anti two A bills will be unconstitutional.
We will prove that immediately day one by the constitutionality.
And now all of these anti two A people are
going to have to come back and sue to try
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to get an unconstitutional law upheld. Okay, We're going to
flip the switch on them, and that's it'll get through
our Colorado Supreme Court because that's a kind of a
corrupt group. But the Scotis will win those cases that
the Scotis hands down. So we'll just go back to
the Constitution. I know that's crazy, but we'll give it
a run.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Representative Scott Bottoms generous with his time today, appreciate you
joining us and we'll send you into the rest of
your day with his website Scott Bottoms dot com, where
you can find out more. He's been joining us here
today on Ryan Schuling Live
Aurora, Colorado, known for the trend of Aragua problem, now
has another big issue, a spiraling mental health crisis fueling
psychotic behavior. And there's even a George Soros angle here.
A registered sex offender could have his charges dropped after
a Soros backed prosecutor is considering leaving the charges behind
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because he was found. The suspect found to be mentally
incompetent to stand trial. Solomon Gallagan, who identifies as a woman,
was accused of trying to kidnap a boy last year
and was charged with one count of attempted kidnapping. Police
say surveillance video shows him approaching students playing at recess
this is a horrifying scene before trying to grab that
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eleven year old boy. But now a spokesperson for the
DA tells us that they have not yet dropped the charges,
but they intend to do so, and the suspect will
not be released out to the public, but will instead
be civilly committed for mental health treatment, meaning he could
be released at some point in the future. But he's
also been released from jail before a local outlet reveals
(01:05):
that prosecutors have dropped felony charges against him at least
four times since twenty eighteen. The suspects sisters as her
brother has been in and out of jail for twelve years,
diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, but was never institutionalized
because of a shortage of beds in mental health centers.
But the County da Amy Patton is set to dismiss
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those charges as required by law if someone's found mentally
incompetent to stand trial, and now furious residents want her recalled.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Laura Ingram, this was a national story. It's an embarrassment
and a disgrace. It's been a topic djure on this
program multiple times. Where did this insanity begin? Well, our
Colorado General Assembly on the issue of competency in House
built twenty four ten thirty four entitled adult competency to
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stand Trial. This made it through the Colorado House by
a vote of forty eight to twelve, including many votes
from Republicans like Rose Paglisi for instance. Now twelve only
twelve Republicans voted against it, led by my guest who
stays with us for this hour. Representative Scott Bottom's representative
Brandy Bradley also voted against it. Kenda Graf voted against it.
(02:20):
Lisa Frazelle voted against it. Richard Holtorf voted against it,
and in a conversation I had with Ty Winter, he
was very adamant. He called me directly and I respect
that he had voted to advance the bill, but not
for the bill. He voted against the bill upon the
Senate amendments being added to it. Mike Linch also one
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of those twelve Republicans voting against it, but far too
many Republicans voted for it, and even worse, even worse,
as the bill made its way to the Senate, there
were amendments added and it passed unanimously yes, with the
votes of Senator Barb Kirkmeyer and Senator Mark Baisley, both
of whom are running for governor here in the state
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of Colorado. Scott, you hear this, and it's not an
isolated incident. It's not just Solomon Gallaghan. It's Dabisa, a
frame for Sheriff Steve Reims up in Welld County, who
we had to let go because of this eedyotic law.
It was a tragedy with a young woman who I
spoke with. Her mother was mowed down in a McDonald's
drive through parking lot by a maniac who then when
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was asked at trial, do you know what this means
you you know, being declared incompetent, to which the defendant said, yeah,
it means all of this goes away. Those are just
three examples. Scott, How in the world did this happen?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, this one really did catch me off guard in
a lot of different ways. I had been having some
conversations with with Republicans ahead of time, and we have
there's a few of us that get together and we
kind of talk about these bills that are coming up
and what's going on. And we had this discussion that
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this is a bad bill, this is going to put
people at risk. And when it first went through, you know,
to say you vote on it to advance it's that's
not really, that's not a thing. In the House, you
don't vote on a bill to advance it. You either
vote on it yes or no, and then it goes
to the Senate. If it would have been voted on
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completely with no amendments in the Senate, it would have
been passed. So if you vote in the House, you
better If you vote to pass a bill, you are
expecting that it will pass or you should not vote
that way because you don't have a guarantee it's going
to come back from the Senate. The Senate doesn't have
changed anything. It just passes, that's right. And so we
had these discussion because I think the first time, and
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you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think
when it went through the first time, when it got
voted on the House of the first time, there's only
two of us that voted no. And then it went
over to the Senate, they changed some things. When it
came back, I think there was what eleven or twelve
of that voted notice us. All right, So but here's
the thing is, I was having this conversation with some
of US Republicans, and I had this conversation in the
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caucus room too with our Republicans. Is this is going
to make victims out of people in Colorado. This is
going to put people in danger. There will be people
that will be murdered and raped, attacked. And I at
the time I said put our children in danger. I
didn't know that some guy was going to walk onto
a school playground and tried to kidnap kids directly off
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that playground. Okay, the event that you're talking about in
the drive through that actually happened right north with Colorado Springs,
right in Monument and so and he drugged the lady
three hundred and fifty feet with her daughter running along
beside the car screaming yell and please, you're killing my mom.
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He knew what he was doing, but I told him, Hugh,
if you but see, we don't like to put people
in jail nowadays, even Republicans struggle with this. Well, how
dare we hold anybody accountable? But here's what you want
to really dig deeper into this. Okay, there's nobody's talking
about this side of it is because this is part
of the conversation I have, and I've had people say, well,
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nobody knew, nobody could see this coming. In fact, I
had a press conference I did. I think Senator Kirkmeyer
is the one who said nobody saw this coming. I'm like, well,
I did. I voted No. How else can I how
else can I prove that I saw that I saw
this coming?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So, and I did use examples of this. But here
is part of the problem with it is, we took
just one bill alone this last spring. We took one
hundred and eighty million dollars away from mental health. Okay,
as far as I know, and I'm may be wrong
about this, but as far as I know, there's only
one facility in the state of Colorado. Is that a
true penal mental health set up? Okay, so we've shut
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everything else down. We don't want mental health money, we
don't want mental health move moving forward. And here's the reason.
Why would you cut one hundred and eighty million from
mental health if you really believe that that's a crisie.
I believe the number one issue in our state right
now is mental illness. I believe that completely.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And you would say that is the primary culprint behind
the gun crimes that we're seeing both internationally here domestically
as well well.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But here's the insider baseball kind of stuff that doesn't
get talked about. And I think this might be the
reason why some people voted yes that shouldn't have okay,
is we cannot actually address mental health or mental illness
in the state of Colorado because the number one issue
that involves mental illness in the state of Colorado is
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the transgender ideology. That is a mental illness issue, that
is not a LGB is a sexual preference. TQ plus
is an ideology that people prey upon, like autistic kids.
They're the number one target for grooming and these kind
of things. And nobody wants to talk about the trains.
Is Gallaghan that you're talking about was a transgender guy
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and he tried to kidnap this kid. Well, almost all
do your homework on this. Almost all not you, the people.
Almost all of the mass shooting, school shootings and things
like that in the last ten years have all been
transgender people are directly connected to same thing with the
Charlie Kirk shooting. Correct, right, nobody's addressing this. Nobody's addressing
There has been multiple articles done by different liberal groups
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conservative groups that are saying the number one most violent
demographic in the United States today is the transgender community.
Now that doesn't mean all transgenders fall in the same category.
Some are actually innocent kids that are being manipulated quite honestly.
But here's the thing is, we can't spend money on
mental health and actually go down that road, because not
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only would would Gallaghan not been released, but we would
have to address his transgender issues because that's a mental
illness problem that we have people that are not struggling
with the mental illness. They don't wake up one day
and go, I think I'm the other sex. Right, this
is something that and the cuttings issues. For years and
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years as a pastor, I would counsel with people that
were cutting, you know, that would come in and their
arms would be cut all down, and their legs would
be cut, and we would send them to psychiatrist, psychologist, therapist.
I would counsel with them all these other kind of things.
Why because everybody recognized that that was mental illness. Okay,
But now we cut genitals off of kids and we
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call that good mental health and necessary and we fund
it from the state. We actually are destination state for
this and cross the entire United States, funded by the
taxpayers of Colorado. Anybody in the United States can have
a transition surgery at the taxpayer expense in Colorado. And
then when somebody commits a crime, then we say, well,
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they're not competent to stand trial. Well, which is it.
They're confident enough to cut genitals off, but they're not
confident enough to stand trial. This is putting people in
Colorado at risk, and we are making Colorado victims by
this bill, and I have verbalized this over and over
for two years now. I voted no against it, and
I can't seem to get anybody in the public to
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realize this is a major, major problem.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Representative Scott Bodoms joining US candidate for governor on the
Republican side. He'll be part of the forum that Mandy
Connell and I will be moderating on Saturday, January tenth
at the Double Tree by Hilton Greeley at Lincoln Park.
Steve Wells and Sheriff Steve Reams helping put this all together.
That'll be from one thirty pm to three thirty pm.
Former Congressman Greg Lopez will be part of it. The
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aforementioned state Senators Mark Baisley and Barb Kirkmeyer will be joining,
along with Sheriff Jason Mike Sel and Scott Bottoms. Victor
Marx has declined to attend this particular event. Now. On
the general election front, Scott, let's say you get the nomination,
as you are confident that you will win Colorado for
whatever reason, I've just noticed the lay of the land
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since I've lived here over these last seven years. Loves
abortion on the whole, loves marijuana on the whole. Seventy
nine was passed to codify abortion into state law at
any time during a woman's pregnancy, up to the moment
of birth, for any reason or no reason at all.
And I know you and I stand firmly against that,
and I think I would hope most voters in the
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middle would stand against that. However, you are a pastor
at an Assembly of God church, you are stridently pro life.
Your stance on marijuana is I think it's dumb. I
should it be legal in Colorado? I wish it wasn't
legal anywhere. And now that it's getting stronger and stronger
and stronger now and sometimes being laced with fentanyl, we're
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killing each other and we're fighting far right to smoke pot.
Would you work to make it illegal in Colorado? Or
do you think that's a fool's errand and just not
possible to do anymore? Here is the genie out of
the bottle, so to speak?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
With that, you know, it's an interesting conversation. I don't
actually get that question this the first time. But my
personal thing is is I don't like you know, we
made it legal and then what two years later, the
Denver Post came out with this big article and the
Gazette had a similar one that said smoking marijuana and
minors has gone up by sixty percent. Who saw this coming, Well,
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I think everybody, So you know, there is some danger
to it. That's not like one of my top things.
I don't okay it just emotionally with it. I just
think it's dumb for people to destroy their brains like that.
And I think twenty five years from now we're going
to see a whole generation that is that is just
you know, mind numbed. But it's not a top priority
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for me.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So let's say it's UV Bennett and I'm just playing
Devil's advocate here. You know what's coming from the other side.
They're gonna scare women. He's gonna take away your right
to choose an abortion, which has been codified in state law.
He's a Holy Roller pastor from the Assembly of God church.
He's way too radical, far right to win in Colorado,
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to govern in Colorado. They're gonna throw all of that
at you. And yet you have stances on these common
sense issues like this competency law, which I would have
to believe the average Colorado would want overturned. How do
you navigate that as a general election candidate in a
state that's predisposed to lean left and vote blue.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, this is the abortion issue is a big one. Obviously,
I get asked that often. I am disappointed that the
state of Colorado voted it in constitutionally. So the way
you said it a minute ago, I'm not trying to
split hairs. But it's not just semantical. It's actually important.
It's not just made law, it's actually made constitution correct
constitutional law. Now so before because I've run an anti
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murdering baby's bill every session I've been in there, I've
run a bill to try to show people, at least
make it law that you had to tell people there
was an option after you took the abortion pill. It's
called abortion pill reversual. And then they made a law
that same session that said that's illegal to tell people
the truth about that. So I still strongly stand against abortion.
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I do believe this is a family issue that never
gets addressed. It's the idea that somehow the guys are
not part of the conversation. I have people in my
church that have had abortions that we walk through this.
I've counseled a lot of people over the years, believe
it or not. It's not the unforgivable sin, it's not
the unpardonable sin. But I do struggle with the people
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that think killing their own babies is okay. I struggle
with that now because it's constitutional, there's nothing as a
governor I can do. It has to go to about
initiative again. I hope somebody brings that back up, because
here's some of the dirty little secret on this. Forty
percent of all the people that voted yes for at
seventy nine said they would not have if they knew
that the state was going to pay for it, which
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I taxpayer is going to pay for, which I think
is a little naive. The idea that somehow you didn't
think that was the next step is I think wilfully naive.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well, if you remember Scott, there was a lot of
money that came in dark money and otherwise to prop
up Amendment seventy nine to put out television ads that
people would watch. And you know, a low information voter,
somebody that doesn't really dig in very deeply, they might
just say no, No. I believe in a woman's right
to choose, So I'm going to vote for Amendments seventy
nine because they didn't look under the hood like you
just said.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah. And I do believe that women have autonomy of
their own body. I just don't believe that baby's their body.
I believe it's a different body. Because here's my part
of my argument that has been illusive illustrative of showing
that people don't really believe what they say is I
believe that women had the right to say no to
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the vaccine. That's their own body. But all of a sudden,
all these pro choice people were like, no, you're getting
the JAB no matter what. Or you'll lose your job,
you'll be kicked out of the military, all these other things,
because why they don't really believe in pro choice. There
are some people that believe in pro choice, but most
of the political leadership that pushes all this stuff, they're
just pro abortion. They're not pro choice or pro abortion.
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That's a different subject. I believe very strongly that the
family should be involved with the husband or the guy,
whoever the donor is to that baby. Why doesn't he
have any rights in this it's his DNA too. And
so there's a lot of things that never get talked
about I believe in a comprehensive family approach to this,
counsel with the mother, counsel with the father, all these
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kind of things, but that gets taken off the table.
So I even tried to pass a law this last
spring that said that CDPH should step into the arena
of second and third trimester abortions, because right now there's
health rulings on first trimester abortions, but the mortality rate
of the mother goes up quite a bit, and second
and then astronomically high during third try man and I
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said during the committee, I can't save babies. That's constitutionalized.
We're going to murder babies in Colorado, is what our
constitution says. I hate that, but I can't do anything
about that as a legislator or as a governor. But
I'm trying to save women's lives. And they voted unaisy.
Democrats voted unaucemently against my bill. And all I was
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asking to do is let CDPH e make a ruling.
CDPH wouldn't even return our phone calls, wouldn't come to
the committee hearing because they don't want to take a
step on that because it is such a risk to
the mother. The mortality rate for the moms is crazy
hw in that third trimester, and nobody wants to talk
about it. Moms are dying and I have proof of
(17:45):
this in our state where mothers have died in planned parenthood.
Senators Sinners and I have the nine to one one calls.
I have everything, and I talked about this at the
committee and they just act like nothing to see here.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
You just articulated that so well. Representative Scott Bottom's our guest,
and yet you know this, Scott, we are losing on
this issue and messaging. Is that simply a dollars and
cents thing that the pro abortion crowd, planned parenthood, the left,
the Democratic Party here in Colorado, the machine that funds this.
It's just that we're outgunned on this issue.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Is that it? Yeah, I think there's a few other
layers to it. I think there is a I think
there is a selfishness that's involved with this that says,
I'm going to live my life like I want to
and it's better. It's easier for me to believe that
this is not an issue, or that's not a problem,
or that nothing's happening here. But because most people don't
(18:39):
ever take time and slow down and actually watch how
an abortion happens. Yeah, they don't know what happens to
the child. They also don't I've had people say when
we talk about selling body parts, I've had people say, well,
there's no such thing there. Nobody's selling these baby's body parts.
It's a billion dollar industry every year, the selling of
(18:59):
these baby's body parts. And so I don't know. I
think there's a wilful, naive tey also that's involved with this,
But I don't know. It's just a it's a plague
upon our country right now. It's so painful in my
heart when I sit and talk with a woman that
had an abortion twenty years later, they're still struggling with that.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Representative Scott botoms Our, I guess can you do one
more segment with us? Yes, sir, okay, we're going to
do that. We got some questions from our texters at
five seven, seven, three nine. You can send those in.
I'll be relaying those to Scott he as a candidate
for governor on the Republican side. He's joining us here
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from Patty not being Petty today on Ryan Shuling Live,
(20:45):
Ryan Great Show. Please thank your guests for his time,
so much valuable information. We need more time with these
candidates to learn not only who they are, but what's
really happening behind the scenes. That's so true and representative.
Scott Bottoms has been very generous with his time today.
A reminder, any of the candidates are welcome here for
a full hour, and he's going for the better part
(21:05):
of two hours with us, and that is an open
invitation any of the candidates out there. They know where
to find me, I think, or they can find Shannon
on the other side of the glass. The Detroit Connection
continues there with Patty. Thanks for that text along lines
of what we were talking about a little bit during
the break. Scott, I want to get where you come
down on this, because some of your comments, let's say,
in the previous segment, would be weaponized used by Democrats
(21:27):
to say that you're transphobic, You're against trans people their
right to exist, their rights in the public sphere. And
one of the groups that I'm closely affiliated with are
the log Cabin Republicans, and I'm very good friends with
Vademar Archiletta, the former president of that organization. It's a
great group. They're kind of going along the lines what
you're saying, gays against groomers is a prominent group out there.
(21:49):
Is that a group you would want to seek out
the endorsement of, to work with to campaign on. Behalf
of what is your stance on those issues in particular,
say gay marriage, gay adoption? Are you a transphobe? Are
you anti trans? How would you articulate your position when
those attacks are definitely coming against you?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, I've had those attacks for years. It's interesting if
you actually just preach out of the Bible, you're going
to have attacks, right, there's somebody's not going to like
something that you're saying. I don't have a problem with
the gay community or the transgender community. Now again, they're
not the same thing, and log Cabin Republicans and Gays
against groomers articulate that fairly well. I've been connected with
(22:34):
and even supported in some of my bills that I've
run from Gays against Groomers. They're a very strong group
that fights against this grooming tality. In fact, I've even said,
as a pastor in my church and other churches in
ministry settings that the church has been very asleep on
this subject, and it takes the gays against groomers to
(22:55):
actually fight. I think that's egregious that that on a
subject that literally, the church I think should be leading
the conversation. And nobody says anything, nobody talks about it,
nobody does anything. And uh, and people are hurting, people
are being destroyed through this, through this transgender ideology, and
and the church is silent. But then you've got the
gay community that's saying, wait a second, not on our watch,
(23:17):
you know. So so yeah, I'm not I'm not transphobic.
I'm not homophobic all those kind of things. I don't
care if a guy wants to wear a dress. Okay,
that one of our representatives in the in the house
is transgender. I don't care if he wears a dress.
I've never attacked him for that. I've never said anything
(23:37):
about it to him. But when you start saying I
have to do something here, or I have to say
certain words, or now, I don't care who you are,
you come after our children. I'm coming after you one
hundred percent. And the and the transgender community is at
large coming after our kids. They they've said it publicly,
they have parades about it. All this kind of stuff.
(24:00):
That's a different subject. A guy wearing a dress is
not the same thing. Stay away from our kids, don't
don't try to control my speech. That's Marxism. You can
call it transgenderism. But when you're telling me I have
to call somebody some or have to do something, or
have to fit into a category, that's Marxism. I'm not
going to go with that. I cannot in good conscience
(24:21):
call a guy a woman, because why, I'm not a liar.
That's the biggest thing. If he wants to call himself
a woman, do it all day long. I don't care.
I have counseled a lot of people over the years
with this. I have very close friends that are in
all of those communities we are. Our church has done
outreaches into the gay community in Colorado Springs have been very,
(24:42):
very successful. We don't hate the gay community. I get
that that attack will always be there. Here's one of
the biggest ways that I get the attack is you're
a pastor. Are you going to are you going to
turn Colorado into a theocracy? You're going to turn Colorado
into a church, make everybody read the Bible, will make
everybody pray, all these kind of things. I've been a
(25:03):
pastor for thirty five years. I can't even get my
church to do that stuff. How is anybody expecting me
to get the whole state to do this? My job
security is the fact that people are broken and that
we're sinners and we have problems. Right. I wish my
whole church would would pray like they're supposed to and
really seek God and have relationship with the Lord and
(25:25):
read the Bible and take care of the widows and
the orphans and the homeless and all these kind of
I can't even get my church to do that. How
is everybody thinking I'm going to get the whole state
to do that? And so, yeah, these are just these
are just interesting ways for people to attack something that
makes them either nervous or afraid or quite honestly, some
people are incomplete a stance against any kind of biblical
(25:50):
values for our communities.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Not long ago. And I would refer to this as
a tremendous own goal to borrow a soccer term, and
we're really I split with Dave william as the party chair.
Was an email that went out on his authorization that
said something along lines of God hates flags, and that's
reminiscent of the protests at military funerals of the Westboro
(26:13):
Baptist Church, which we certainly don't want to have anything
to do with anything in common with in Valdimar Archiletta,
who I mentioned my good friend who was the president
of the log CAMN Republicans conducted an interview with Kyle
Clark where he was asked about that when that whole
controversy hit the fan Scott, what was your reaction and
response to that God hates flags?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah? That one. I think that was an extremely bad
decision by Dave. Okay, I don't think. I don't remember
actually talking to Dave about this, and maybe we did,
he could come on and correct me if I'm wrong
about this. I don't think I actually talked to him
about that. I don't think he was trying to make
(26:55):
it sound like that. But it was just too opportune
at the time, with all the volatility with the flags
and with the gay community. It was it was just
bad judgment to say that God does not hate homosexuals. Okay,
I don't hate homosexuals. The Bible has no talk about
(27:17):
how God hates gay people. It is not it's not there. Okay.
Now there is a redemptive plan because I had this
asked in a town hall recently, well, do you think
homosexuality is a sin? Well, yes, I do think that.
That's romans One says it. I can't go around the Bible.
Either I believe the Bible or I don't. If I'm
going to be a pastor, I have to believe the Bible.
(27:38):
And one of my critiques of pastors is when you
nitpick through the Bible and say what it says this
or it doesn't say this? What Kate romans One says,
it's a sin, that's a New Testament, because I've also
had people say, what's not in the New Testament? Yeah,
it is. That's not the only place either. But here's
the thing. Does that mean God hates homosexuals? No. It
also says that gossip has sin. Nobody likes to address
(28:02):
that in the church and have the people that are
gospel or about gospel being about the Bigay community. So
you're like, if it's a sin, it's a sin. And
there you can go to Galatians chapter five, verse nineteen
issues where it starts where there's a list of sins.
It says you won't get into heaven with these sins
in your life. Okay, Now, different people look at grace
differently and stuff. But I'm just saying this is what
(28:24):
the Bible says. Does that mean God hates all these people?
That does not make sense. Jesus didn't die on the
cross for people because he hates them. He died on
the cross because he wants to save him. He wants
to bring grace, he wants to bring relationship back. And
our sin is what separates us from God. It's not
because God hates us. It's because we're choosing something besides him,
(28:44):
and that's what sin is. And so and there's lists
all through the Bible, the idea that somehow I hate
gay people, or I hate transgenders, or God hates It's
just not true. But it's convenient if you if you
like to attack people like me, or you like to
attack God, these are convenient conversations.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Being very greedy with your time. Representative Scott Bottoms.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Hey, I could stay all day if I like my
stake medium rare.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Okay, Well, all right, duly noted. We'll work on that
stake during the break. I think Shanman can cook something up,
maybe in the microwave in the Freedom studio, so he's
got one going there, but we'll close out this hour
Representative Scott Bottoms. A lot of your questions still to
get to at five seven, seven, three nine after this
on Ryan Schuling Live, ramping up our second hour, Representative
(29:35):
Scott Bottoms, Republican candidate for governor, joining us kind enough
to be so generous with his time, and during the break, Scott,
we kind of touched on what the big issue is
now from the left, and I find this hilarious, and
that's affordability. And we know here in Colorado we've been
under almost exclusive Democrat rules, certainly for the entire time
that I've lived here, going back to twenty eighteen. And
(29:56):
it's like the arsonists who shows up to the fire
saying I know how to put it out. The Gallagher
Amendment repeal without a plan to replace it, and then
we had to go through the legislative process. You were
a part of this, I believe, to try to correct that.
And we've seen property taxes you mentioned yours rocketing up
five hundred dollars just during the break. It didn't happened
(30:17):
during the break very recently for you personally, how would
you address writ large affordability crisis. Democrats are running on
this and specifically here in Colorado, cost of living, particularly
when it comes to a home mortgage, property taxes, things
like that.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, this is a major major issue for the state
of Colorado because we've been crashing and burning in this
arena for a long time now. The legislation that's been
coming out of the House has specifically gone after property ownership,
private property ownership all three years that I've been in
the House, and I'm sure it's going to happen again
here in a month when Governor Polus comes back to
(30:55):
give is the fourth state of the state I've been
in the room for. He says every year, there's no
reason for private property ownership, right, Why do people in
Colorado need on property? Just live near bus stations and
train states. That's what he says. It's it's on video.
You don't You don't have to take my word for it.
Look it up.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Is that what he's gonna do?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Fact check me. No, he's not gonna do that. And
so I do a lot of events all over rule Colorado.
In fact, I'm tomorrow I'm going down in the southern
part of our state here and having a meeting with
quite a few ranchers that want to talk to me
about ranching and what that means. What train station are
they going to live by? What what bus station are
they going to live by? This is just craziness. In fact,
(31:36):
Governor pulls the first year he said this, he said,
don't don't get out in the middle of a blizzard
and try to drive your car in the middle of
a blizzard. Just just go to the train station, take
the train. I'm like, so, now you're walking in a blizzard.
You're not sitting in a car, You're walking. The guy's
off in some different ways. There's something wrong about his
thought process. But here's the thing is, we're trying. We're
(31:59):
passing laws that are intentionally going after individuals. In the
state of Colorado. The governor does not want anybody to
own property, doesn't want anybody to be wealth. We've lost
forty percent of businesses in five years. And some people say,
well that was because of the pandemic. No, because other
states opened up fairly quickly during the pandemic and they
(32:21):
have a net gain of businesses Tennessee, Oklahoma, Texas, Florida,
they have net gains of small businesses in their states.
We have lost forty percent. It's because of our regulations,
our taxes, and our direct attack. We have passed passed
so much less legislation that goes after property owners. You know,
(32:42):
the people that have owned a house for twenty five
years and then they retire downsize into another home and
rent that out. It is almost impossible for them to
do that now because all of the laws that have
been passed. It says that the people that are living
in their house don't have to pay rent, and you
can't make them. You can't make them not have pets,
you can't put any kind of guidelines on your own home.
(33:05):
This is destroying our market. And here's a little secret
that a lot of people did not know and have
not known. And when I say this in townhalls, I
thought everybody kind of knew this, But they don't. We
just started building condos and townhomes again last year. This
is the first time in eight years that a townhome
or a condo has been built in the state of Colorado.
Most people don't know that. Well, why were they not built?
(33:26):
Because we passed the legislation to make it so easy
to sue townhome and condo builders that they quit doing it. Well,
that is one of the steps in affordability of home
ownership is you know you have people that live. I
was down in Cortes and there was a group that
is trying to stop people from owning mobile I mean yeah,
(33:47):
mobile homes down there. Well, you got mobile homes, and
you got modular homes, you got townhomes, condos that people buy,
and that is how you work your way into a
bigger home or an iicer home or whatever time. And
we're taking some of those off the table. So you
either you rent or you have to be able to
afford a six hundred thousand dollars home. That is craziness.
(34:09):
But the laws that we are passing is what is
making that happen. It's not We have a five point
two percent supply over demand in Colorado right now in housing.
Nobody knows that. Nobody's saying that that's an easy findable statistic.
But the reason is because and this is a weird
thing that's going on nationwide too. It's not just Colorado,
but it's worse statistically in Colorado is the supply is
(34:32):
more than the demand, but the demand they're not actually
going out and buying the homes. There is the demand,
but they're settling for something in a rental mentality, which
is more of a transient mentality when it comes to
property ownership and those kind of things. So therefore you
don't invest in the state as much. You don't invest
and these are just general statistics, right, Well, this is
(34:53):
what the governor wants. He doesn't want people owning homes.
He wants renting because you have a different mindset for
your community when you're rent all right, when you buy
a home, you're putting down different kind of roots, right,
So he doesn't want that. And we're not building affordable housing.
We're just building and it's all over the place and
its apartments and now we've started building townhomes and condos
(35:14):
again and that'll help. But when i'm governor at through
executive order, we're going to fix his stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Day one, Representative Scott Bottom's our guests closing out with
this question. You mentioned the attack on individual rights. There
have been so many horrific bills passed through the General
Assembly signed into law by Governor Poulis Kyle from Thornton.
With this very important one, What are Scott's thoughts on
any candidate possibly splintering off and running is an affiliated
if they don't win in the primary. And then adding this,
(35:40):
what is your view on the Second Amendment? And what
would he do for all these laws the legislature just passed.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, splintering off, anybody has that right. I don't think
it's wise in this context. But yeah, you can do
whatever you want. Does it hurt people when that happens?
Potentially it depends. And you know, you see different elections,
you see national ones where sometimes somebody splinters off and
it hurts one of the parties or something. I don't
(36:07):
know everybody's This is a free republic. You can do
what you want, don't I don't begrudge anybody of that.
If somehow that hurts me and I don't win an
election for it, I'll just be angry for a few years,
you know. So, But this is a republic. This is
what we're allowed to do. You can do anything. You
can run as a libertarian, green, independent, affiliate or whatever.
(36:30):
The second part about the Second Amendment, I'm very much
a constitutional person. The Constitution is what you know. We're
about to celebrate two hundred and fifty years of that document.
People say of our country that's not what we're celebrating.
We were already kind of here, but we're celebrating a
document that is a that is a founding existence of
how we govern ourselves. Okay. It is the most amazing
(36:53):
governing doctrine ever to be created, in my opinion, and
people are constantly attacking and takeing and apart. One of
the things that I'm going to do with this Second Amendment,
because I'm a constitutionalist on it, no infrigement whatsoever. Even
having to have a concealed carrying permit as an infringement.
In my opinion. It's somebody business whether I'm carrying a
firearm or not. But the Constitution says I'm allowed to. Okay.
(37:16):
But here's the thing, is what am I going to
do as governor day one executive order? Mark my words,
I'm going to say, We're going to go back to
the constitution in the State of Colorado, and so a
lot of these anti two A bills will be unconstitutional.
We will prove that immediately day one by the constitutionality.
And now all of these anti two A people are
going to have to come back and sue to try
(37:38):
to get an unconstitutional law upheld. Okay, We're going to
flip the switch on them, and that's it'll get through
our Colorado Supreme Court because that's a kind of a
corrupt group. But the Scotis will win those cases that
the Scotis hands down. So we'll just go back to
the Constitution. I know that's crazy, but we'll give it
a run.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Representative Scott Bottoms generous with his time today, appreciate you
joining us and we'll send you into the rest of
your day with his website Scott Bottoms dot com, where
you can find out more. He's been joining us here
today on Ryan Schuling Live
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