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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Friday in Denver, and that means it's time once
again for.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
The Right Side of Hollywood with award winning filmmaker Deborah
Flora and Christian Total of Hollywood in Toto on the
intersection of pop culture, entertainment and politics in America.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Right here, I'm Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
John Elway, the Boss, get the quarterback they ever played
the NaSTA Football League.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I can still remember feeling that responsibility they can do
it all, and the expectations.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
This is a third loss in the Super Bowl. I
had to sacrifice everything to be the best. Everything changed
for Colorado in nineteen eighty three. Then the most spoken
about name and American sports.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
John ol Way.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh John Elway.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
First time I saw him in the practice, I'm going
to the best guys free.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
He is going to be one of the greats of
all time.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
I bet he got the nickname the Duke of Denver,
The Duke of Denver, Duke.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Of Denver's Police.
Speaker 7 (00:53):
Shy sweet, He's not needing pigeon toed Dan.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
All of a sudden, I'm dating this superstar. First year.
Speaker 7 (01:03):
I'd never seen anybody get beat around like he did.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Everyone was expecting John and was going to take us
to the top right away.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
With Van's offense, it was different than I was used
to Damn, damn, damn.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
My head was spinning. Was he overblown by the media?
Part of the growing page of coming into the NFL.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
People have no idea how hard this guy worked to
be who he was.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
For me, looking over the last fifty years, my whole life,
you know, winning was the most important thing.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I think that was at the sacrifice to my family.
Speaker 8 (01:37):
Depending on whether he won or loss, there was definitely
a mood shift.
Speaker 9 (01:40):
He used to be pretty intimidated with him.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
This comes with the territory.
Speaker 10 (01:44):
My parents' marriage was crumbling.
Speaker 11 (01:46):
You really started to pick up on the gravity of
the situation.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I got death threats.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
All the focus in the media and everything was on John.
Speaker 12 (01:54):
He helped a city transform itself.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
Well, let's be real, he was gonna have to win
a super Bow to be coronated.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
John took it personally. He had one goal. The frustration
level grew.
Speaker 13 (02:07):
Before he's ever going to be considered a great quarterback,
he has to win one of these things.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Those are the sacrifices that athletes make to be great.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Didn't Greatness is more than just the performance on the field.
Speaker 11 (02:18):
Whatever, and my dad always said, you can't take the
easy way out.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
He said.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
This was the moment.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The Netflix documentary simply entitled Elway called The Duke of
Denver and that will be premiering on Netflix coming up
on Monday, December twenty second. Deborah Flora Christian Total alongside
and this is where sports pop culture intersect and for
fans here in Denver, in Colorado, Deborah, I don't think
there's ever been a bigger superstar on the sports landscape
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than John Elway.
Speaker 8 (02:55):
Absolutely, you know, it's part of the history growing up here,
to say the least. I mean, we used to have
or into crush parties back in the day of Craig
Morton and Haven Moses long long ago. But this changed everything.
And I want to give a shout out because I
do know that this trailer in this documentary gets into
how his family life broke down. But I had an
interesting experience back when I was miss Colorado long ago,
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and it was when John Allway was doing a show
with Woody Page, and so they initiated this thing where
they kicked off this show, the sports play by play show,
and I ended up being the person that every episode
would throw the football.
Speaker 10 (03:29):
To John Elway, which was like a big deal.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
I'm like, I think I'm the only one I know
that's thrown it to him on camera. Maybe not, but
it wasn't that bad throw. But I remember leaving the
filming one time we were at a location and we
got into a police car because there was a mob surrounding.
John Elway was just a phenomenon and he was such
a gentleman, and he made sure that because we're going
to be passing the cameras. He sat in the front
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and I sat in the back, And I thought, as
a young single woman and here he was a superstar.
I thought, you know, that showed integrity no matter what
the fame and all of that did along the way,
that drive to be number one.
Speaker 10 (04:05):
Always thought about that. I thought that was a.
Speaker 8 (04:07):
Behind the scenes view of who he was despite the
pressure and the mania wherever he went.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Total.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
You grew up a Giants fan and they demolished the
Broncos in a Super Bowl that I was watching as
a young boy. And I grew up in Detroit watching
the Lions, but watching the Broncos and how they were
able to upend the Browns, seeing they had something out
for that particular team and the comebacks that John Elway
led in the eighties, but they would get to the
Super Bowl. I remember this and just get obliterated, whether
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it was the Washington Redskins, the Denver Broncos, and then
there was the talk about who's the greatest quarterback to
never win a Super Bowl? Now you think maybe Dan
Marino comes to mind, but at the time it certainly
was John Elway. And then finally, very late in his career,
he went back to back Super Bowls against the Green
Bay Packers and the Atlanta Falcons, really vindicating his entire career.
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Putting the stamp on it that John Madden said in
that trailer was necessary thoughts and perspective on John Elway.
Speaker 12 (05:02):
Yeah, you know, larger than life sports figures are rare.
They matter. And I think what pop culture has done
in recent years is really get behind the scenes a
lot of these different I think Amazon has, at Netflix,
HBO for sure had these sort of like behind the
scenes looks at teams before the season, during the season.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
I think that's so fascinating.
Speaker 12 (05:21):
So I'm looking forward to seeing what they uncover here,
and just by the trailer one, I'm not that I'm
happy that he had marital problems and family woes in
a way, but you do want a warts and all
approach because that's more human. That's who he was and
who he is now. And I think that matters, because
I think just to deify him is not really doing
him justice because he is a complicated soul. But also
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heroism that you know, kind of putting a city on
your shoulders. I can't imagine that pressure. It just seems unbelievable.
And yeah, I mean, he's one of the iconic figures
you don't have to be from Denver to John Elway line.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
That's one of the really corner still names that I
knew when I came here seven eight years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
And Deborah, just to get your perspective on this too.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What I noticed about the trailer and our listeners could
only hear, but when I saw it, I thought it
was remarkable and pretty admirable that Janet Elway took part
in this documentary. That she could have easily said no,
but this was an important part of her life. She
describes meeting him and falling in love with him, and
you know that didn't end well.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
No, no, I mean I don't know anything about personally,
and I think that's good. I mean, you know, never
have I sought out a lot of information, but it
seems like however they navigated that it wasn't splashed everywhere.
And you think about the journey that John Elwie took,
I mean they met young, she went through so much
of that alongside him. I want I appreciate, you know,
jumping on what Christian said, there is you know, there
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is a cost that is not often.
Speaker 10 (06:44):
Shown to achieve what he achieved.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
And it's you know, that's something to debate about as
a society.
Speaker 10 (06:51):
What is the cost? What is it worth? What do
we put these people through?
Speaker 8 (06:55):
And you know, obviously there was a switch from the
Dan Reeves style, you know of a play to Michael
Michael Shanahan and then it just took off. But I
do think that's good. I mean, it's something we talked
about with the Michael jacksone. Is that going to be honest?
Because if we're going to dive into human character, human nature.
Speaker 10 (07:13):
Those are the bigger issues to look at. What is
the cost and what is the pathway forward?
Speaker 8 (07:18):
And yes, I think it's great that you know his wife,
his ex wife was is a part of it, and
you know, kudaus to both of them.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
John Elway a phenomenal athlete, a baseball player, drafted I
believe by.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
The New York Yankees title back in the early eighties.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
He was also going to be drafted by the Indianapolis Colts,
who refused.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Didn't want to play for the Colts.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Lucky for Denver fans, he was all about getting on
board here and playing for the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And of course the rest is history.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Just you're a Colorado kid, right, you remember the early
days of John Elway.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I think we can go back that far. You yeah, man.
Speaker 13 (07:50):
I was actually at that Super Bowl nineteen eighty seven
at the while when they got smashed by the Giants.
We were living in Huntington Beach at the time, so
it just happened to all my fansily flew in.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's a big ordeal.
Speaker 12 (08:02):
Can I throw one other thing in here. This is
a movie that's coming soon. It's actually coming on Netflix.
It's called j Kelly. George Clooney stars as a George
Clooney esque movie star and the movie I can't review
it for barger reasons, but it's all about how he
became so successful and how he had put his family aside.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
He wasn't a good father.
Speaker 12 (08:22):
He couldn't be a good father and be the movie
star that everyone loved. And it's a sacrifice that he made.
And the movie wrestles with that much like John od Way.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
Well, and there's another movie that reflects that, which is
McEnroe versus Borg versus McEnroe.
Speaker 10 (08:34):
And you look at the.
Speaker 8 (08:36):
Cost that was paid to be that elite, and I
think it is a good question. I have a family
member whose daughter was headed towards alembus ice skating. They
basically she was no longer part of the family from
six years old and then never ended up making it.
Speaker 10 (08:50):
There's a cost.
Speaker 8 (08:52):
Now that's not to say it is not to be applauded,
but I think that is the real interesting.
Speaker 10 (08:56):
Look at all of this.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I was reading up on Chris Isaac just the other day,
and he has famously been a bachelor his whole life,
and what he said was he was married to the road,
he was married to his music, and that was the
price that he paid that sacrifice. To your point, Deborah,
you know, not really having what we call a work
life balance.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Your work is your life.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And I think that's the case in some way with
John Elway, and what price did he pay for the
success that he enjoyed, but more importantly the success that
he earned. Here's a text five seven seven three nine.
He can send those in Ryan, absolutely true story. I
lived in Denver all my life and was in the
process of taking a job in Phoenix in nineteen eighty three.
I quit the day the Broncos traded for John Elway.
Speaker 10 (09:37):
That's amazing right there. My gosh, good call he put in.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
The sports spotlight. Think about it that way too.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I mean this perspective, and Jesse, you can speak to
this as a producer for the Rockies broadcast. That team's
only been around now for a little over thirty years,
going back to nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But Denver was a burgeoning sports.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Town with the Broncos being basically the only show in
town for a lot of those years. Then came the Nuggets,
then came the Rockies, then came the Avalanche.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
But this is the Broncos town.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And when you think Denver Broncos, you know, younger fans
will think Peyton Manning and the Super Bowl it was
won there, But anybody else then the first name at
the top of the list is John Elway.
Speaker 12 (10:16):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, and it's so I just always
fascinateed by how sports and championships and cities it builds
a community in a way that nothing else does. One
of my biggest regrets in the last few years. And
I'm from New York. I'm not even technically a Denver fan.
All I root for all the teams now, and I
go to the teams and I want to see them.
But when the when the Apple, when the Abs are
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about to win, when the when the Nuggets about to win,
I wanted to go to a bar and soak it in.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
And I got there too late because it was.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Just so pass I ask you that question, Jesse, if
not for John Elway, and now this might sound a
little grandiose, but I don't know that it is. If
not for John Elway, the impact that he had on
this town as a sports town with the Broncos in
the eighties, did the Rockies and Avalanche even happen?
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Oh no, no, is my immediate answer.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
No, that's a answer.
Speaker 13 (11:03):
It seems a little hyperbolic, but I don't I think
that's the case. And yes, this is always a Broncos town.
Will always be a Broncos town. There's I mean, victory
mondays here are a real thing. Yes, the city is
palpable after a Broncos win. You can tell in your
everyday interactions. No other sport brings that. And Kiowa's logo
what color is it?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Orange and blue pen of course for the Broncos.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
Yeah, and one other, you know, one other analogy i'd
make to this. Obviously we have not seen the document yet,
but it reminds me of Everybody's All American with Dennis Quaid,
where there was so much pressure on him and then
he got into the actuality of the game and it
was brutal and he got worn down and beaten down.
And I think one of the tenacity aspects.
Speaker 10 (11:41):
Of this story is he went through all of that.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
At the beginning. Everybody expect him to go to Super
Bowl his first year. The style of offense under Dan
Reeves didn't work for his talent, and he got beat up.
I mean, he was a target by everybody and it
could have ended there, but changes were made around him
by the change of coaches just because of him, and
it ended instead and this kind of you know, fairy
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tale ending, although life is not a fairy tale when
you sacrifice that much.
Speaker 12 (12:09):
By the way, what you said about your family member
who sacrificed so much, Yes, isn't achieved the fame and
glad there you go. How many stories are like that
as opposed to the lways of the world, which did
everything we wanted to do in a very sort of
picturesque movie style. There are so many stories of people
just don't get there. Yes, that's a horrible to think.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeppened one other text five seven seven three nine Field
free to send those along, Ryan. I also have been
a Bronco fan my whole life. Elway started the heart
attack while watching the Broncos fans know so well. I
love John Elway and that documentary on Netflix coming out
just in time for Christmas Monday, December twenty second, so
set your DVRs for that one. We had a chance
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Christian and I to interview Jamie Lisso yesterday. He's coming
to comedy work South and Toto and I will be
going tonight to the Late Show. On that, Christian asked
him an interesting question. It all on off of this
comment from Rachel Maddow. What pretends to be a comedy program?
Stephen Colbear isn't how funny this is, Jesse.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
I mean literally, they wrote the plan for what they
want Ukraine to do, and the White House put it
on its letterhead and said, here it is, you better
do it. And you know, Russia is a podunk country.
They're a huge land masks, largest largest physical country in
the world. They've got an economy like.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
The size of Italy.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Right, They've got a colectocratic, sclerotic government run by a
guy who's never.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Going to leave until he dies.
Speaker 14 (13:34):
The idea that.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
We work for him, that we work for them is
so humiliating and is such an abject failure on the
part of Trump in terms of his weakness. I don't
know what Putin has on him, but he works for
Putin and it's an embarrassment to this country.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Hilarious. I can't stop laughing.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh my goodness, there but klectocratic, sclerotic. Jamie joke that
he had that treated in his back a little while ago,
perfectly stated. But Christian, the question, as you framed it
for Jamie and then I'll play His answer was, what
I mean, is.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
This why Late on TV is dying?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You know?
Speaker 12 (14:10):
Obviously Gutfeld with Jamie is doing quite well, no problem there.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
What's happening at the Late din from Why do we
even think that this is entertaining?
Speaker 12 (14:18):
Listen, even if you like Colbert and like Rachel Maddow
and agree with their point of view, this is a
comedy show. This is late night TV, so see chuckles
before bedtime, you would hope anything.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
But yeah, here's Jamie Lisson has answered the question that
Toto just framed right there.
Speaker 11 (14:33):
I think it's a great question because I do feel
like the reason that Gutsfeld gets the ratings he gets.
I think part of it is because, of course it's
the only show that's kind of on the other side,
so we sort of stand alone as the only comedy
show that leans that way. But I think the other
part of it is it's on Fox News, so you're
sort of expecting it to be a little bit leaning
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a certain way. So I think people that tune in go, oh,
this is probably what I'm getting. What I know, I'm
expecting this, and this is what I'm getting. Where I
feel with the Big three networks, I think the surprise was,
you know, Johnny Carson famously said, like, no one will
ever know who I vote for. This is not my
job to comment on politics. My job is to not
polarize at the audience. I think I'm not only paraphrasing.
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I think they call it butchering. I think that's something
I said.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I don't even know who was the Carson quote.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Well, I say, you'll never take a serious controversy. Well
I have an answer to that. I said, no, tell
me the last time that Jack, Benny red Skelton, any
comedian used his show to do serious issues.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
That's not what I'm there for. Can't they see that?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
But you're either they think that just because you have
it tonight's show, that you must deal in serious issues.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
That's a danger.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
It's a real danger.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Once you start that, do you start to get that
self important feeling. That's what you say has great import
and you know, strangely enough, you could use that show
as a form. You could sway people, and I don't
think you should as an entertainer.
Speaker 11 (15:59):
But I think it's it's hard for people that used
to just tune into you go, Hey, the CNN for
this side, Fox News for this side, ABCCBC, NBC for
like a funny comedy show where none of that stuff
comes up.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Jam makes the point you heard Johnny Carson, Deborah, why
haven't any of these late night shows followed Johnny Carson's advice.
Speaker 8 (16:19):
It's so interesting to me because comedy used to be
that part of our culture that would just bring people together,
where people could take a break from the twenty four
to seven partisanship that is out there. And you know what,
the reason why they don't take the advice is because
they're propped up. I mean, honestly, the most important thing
that needs to happen is the economics just to play out.
They're ratings to kay, that is why Stephen Colbert was
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off the air. He was losing what was it forty
million dollars a year or something of that sort. That's
where it needs to play itself out. But Hollywood itself
is so insular that they tend to ignore the fact that,
you know, the ratings are what they are because the
vast majority of America doesn't want to be lectured. Two
per particularly supposed to be a comedy program. And it's
that whole thing that you often say Christian clown knows
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on clown knows on. Rachel Maddow claims to be a journalist,
but she's making a statement about Trump working for Putin
without a shred of Evidence's stating it out there as
though it is fact. That's not journalism on a show
that's supposed to be comedy. They don't even know the
difference anymore. And it has so permeated every area of
our culture. No wonder, you know, comedians like Jamie Lessau
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and others do so well. People just want to laugh,
they want they want to take a break. Not everything
has to be politicized.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And finally total it was about twenty years ago or
so that Conan O'Brien really took that next step with
the late night talk show. People were wondering, after Leno
and Letterman, who's next. For a while there was Conan,
and Conan was funny, had a lot of great bits.
It didn't revolve around politics, wasn't too serious at all
from what I recall. And yet we've had this downward
trajectory into this morose kind of landscape for this format.
Speaker 12 (17:56):
It's really sad, you know, even you know Jimmy Fallon
is the least ideological, but he's still on the left
and his ratings are in the toilet right now. You
didn't have been there for a while. One the other
is about Guttfeld and listen, it's right leaning. I'm right leaning.
There's a match in Made Heaven there. But there's so
quick about that show. That's a little bit naughty, a
little bit. We're going to poke fun at things a
little bit. There's actually sometimes tension between the panelists between
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joy Kat, timf and Gutfeld. They're picking on Jamie all
the time, but there's something rebellious about that show. You
don't get that across any other late night show. I'll
mention Bill Maher because he does shoot straight and he's
not as predictable, but generally speaking, you just know exactly
where the other shows are going to land. It's safe
in the worst of ways, and comedy has to be
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about surprise.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Yeah, I'm never surprised by these shows.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
I think one other thing that's happening on the left
is the fact that there are so many things you
cannot joke about on the left. You can't joke about sexuality.
You can't joke about men and women because they can't
define them, so we can't joke about that. I mean,
all the old things that actually had all the other
aspects of who we are. They can't joke about any
of that, So politics is it? That's all they can do?
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Jamie Lisso Tonight at Comedy Works South Early show, six pm.
I can't get there in time for that, so we're
going to the late one. Toto me a cast and crew.
That'll be the eight thirty show and you can still
get your tickets at Comedyworks dot com. We'll take this
time out, come back with Debrah and Christian will go
through our nominees.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Of our Friday Fool of the Week.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Plentiful as usual here on the right side of Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I love you.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
I just want to be clear. This is the party.
This is that you know, they care so much about
life until life actually shows up at their front door.
And this is also the party. This supposedly is about Christianity,
and I just imagine what they would have done to
a little big of Jesus.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
But that's a whole other issue.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
You know. It is really so heartbreaking. We know that
under the prior Tump administration it was the children in cages.
So for me, expecting them to do better by children
was not one of the things that was on my
bingo car coming in hot for.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Our Friday Fool the Week.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Nomineeses I could eat from Deborah Flora and we'll start
with her on Representative Jasmine Crockett, who laughably ponders, Deborah,
I just imagine what the GOP would have done to
a little baby Jesus.
Speaker 10 (20:20):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
During the break when I read this headline, I was like,
you don't mess with the manger. It is advent season.
But it's so just crazy to say. First of all,
Jesus was Jewish, who has been the most outspoken anti
Semitic group of people that are pushing all of this. Second,
where is this Party of the Right when it comes
to women in crisis? Like Mary was, well, they're the
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ones that are supporting pregnancy resource centers, thank you very much,
not saying to Mary, Oh Mary, this is inconvenient get
rid of that baby before it's born. I mean, how
many other directions could you go with this? I'm sorry,
I think she wins. You don't even ask.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
My opinion, you know it. I know, I'm just seeing
her thinking.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
You know, we live in a day and age where
people just throw everything at the wall like spaghetti, and
the messy of it, messiest.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
Portions are what stick.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
This is reprehensible this is absolutely reprehensible Christian.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
The cognitive dissonance where she doesn't even realize most people
like Dever just broke down, would think, yeah, baby Jesus
wouldn't even made it to the manger. Yes, yes, if
a Democrat had their say about it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
The ninth month, the David perform an abortion ritual right here.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And a couple of things.
Speaker 12 (21:35):
One is she's on a news program right talking all
this stuff that's correct. There's no pushback, every push they
just never know, just spits out all these lies and
misperceptions and things. And by the way, a great coach
switch here, she's speaking like a like an academic. Where's
the hole, you know, the whole you know, the whole
other jazzman foculty. We've gotten to know and love love.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah. Not to mention the kids in cages. That was
the that.
Speaker 10 (21:59):
Was it's so debunked.
Speaker 8 (22:02):
And by the way, because the Biden administration was so
afraid to have a picture where they were actually making
sure that children went to someone who actually had a
relationship with them and were vetted. What happened under the
Biden administration, children's tens of thousands, some say hundreds of thousands,
were released quickly to people who had no relationship to them,
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no vetting, and those children are now being trafficked. So
I'm sorry, Crockett, if you want to talk about this,
who really cared the most about the children at our
southern border. It took vetting, it took the care, and
it's inexcusable.
Speaker 10 (22:38):
I'm sorry. I'm hot under the collar.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Great Daily Crockett.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Thank you, Jasley Crockett, our first nominee. What a strong
leadoff hitter like Henderson quality right there, that's for Chris.
Speaker 10 (22:55):
My goodness, what our.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Number two hole hitter, maybe bunting to get her over baseball.
Analogy continues there. That one's for Jesse Governor Tim Walls
now President Trump. He called ilhan Omar garbage and her
cohorts her friends, and he called Governor Tim Walls retarded.
And this is what Walls had to say about that
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this creates danger.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
And I'll tell you what, in my time on this,
I'd never seen this before. People driving my house by
my house and using the R word. This is shameful.
And I have yet to see an elected official, a
Republican elected official, say you're right, that's shameful.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
He should not say it. So, Look, I'm worried. We
know how these things go.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
They start with taunts, they turn to violence.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
So deeply concerned.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Okay, you know why President Trump the Republicans are winning
on this issue of the Minnesota Somali migrant fraud scandal.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It's because that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Walls is changing the subject to Trump calling him retarded
ilan Omar same thing.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
He called me garbage. He's obsessed with me.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
They're not addressing the merits of the accusations, mister Toto.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
They can't.
Speaker 12 (24:02):
Right well, listen, I agree with Tim Waltz. You don't
call him retarded. You call him a knucklehead. So that's
that's clearly who. By the way, yeah he's I mean,
he's out of central casting. This guy's a cartoon. And again,
if we had a legacy media that had any sort
of integrity, they would be challenging. They would be cornering
these people with tough questions that make them answer real
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or situations. I mean, how could you dodge and deflect
this scandal.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's massive.
Speaker 12 (24:33):
Real people are being hurt. Real people should be going
to jail. I don't know if he should be going
to jail. But it's certainly happening under his watch, and
he's able to dodge and weak because the media is
so darn corrupt.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Reports now Deborah saying that the fraud may amount to
eight eight million billion dollars, not just one billion dollars.
And to Christian's point, if this had happened on a
Republican that person would already be gone.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Absolutely, And I would say I I personally don't think
calling someone retarded or garbage is helpful because let them
just have to deal with the actual issues of what
they're responsible for. That's just my personal take on that.
But this is so outrageous because, first of all, when
he's talking about what's dangerous, the Minneapolis police chief just
said that if you see someone citizen, an ICE agent
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kidnapping someone, let us know, because the police are going
to intervene. What's setting the stage for violence. And I
was right outside Little Mogadishu when we were shooting our documentary,
and this is the heart of Governor Walters state.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
It was a no go zone.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
They built a separate bridge so those people never had
to interact with infidels.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
If you want to talk about safety.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Issues, crime has skyrocketed with this pocket community. Now, is
every Somalian one of these people in fraud? No, absolutely not,
But there is danger here from all of this and
the deflection and then not taking responsibility for By the way,
four hundred and eighty plus dhs were just said that
Waltz is one hundred percent responsible for all of this
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and he can only focus on being called a name.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Yep, that's it was amazing.
Speaker 12 (26:10):
If if Tim walt got on that the Late Show
is Stephen Colbert tomorrow, this would never come up, never, never.
Speaker 10 (26:15):
What a great point because it's a comedy show, right.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
That's why Governor Tim walls our two whole hitter for
our Friday Fool the weekness hard.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
The next one.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
A rare nominee as Senator Mark Warner, usually regarded as
one of the more magnanimous, moderate, knowledgeable, experienced members of
the United States Senate Democrat Virginia. But keep in mind
the January sixth pipe bombing scandal.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
That whole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It began on January sixth, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 15 (26:48):
I think it is good news if this perpetrator.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Got arrested, but I gotta tell you.
Speaker 15 (26:54):
It kind of makes me looking at this crowd doing
a victory lap when all the senior FBI officials across
all key divisions have been.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Fired for political purposes.
Speaker 15 (27:06):
When in some field offices, up to forty five percent
of the FBI officers who were doing things like counter
tespionage and cyber have been assigned to do immigration cases.
It's it's a little rich that they're saying the America
savor how much earlier could we have caught this guy
if resources hadn't been diverted? And I hope it would
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also remind folks that on January sixth, I was here
at the capital on January sixth. It was an ugly,
awful day, and this administration and this president basically pardoned
all the perpetrators.
Speaker 10 (27:41):
You know, it's that kind of.
Speaker 15 (27:45):
Picking and choosing a fact from this crowd that makes
me a little bit crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Picking and choosing a fax, Deborah, where was the Biden
administration for four years on this?
Speaker 8 (27:55):
I mean that that is what's so outrageous about this
President Trump and his administration have been in office now
really fully for about ten months ower than that because
they kept blocking his appointments. But the reality is shouldn't
he have shifted and said, well, maybe the FBI folks
that were in office that didn't get to this point
should have been fired for that reason alone. You know,
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when you look at what Pam Bondi said, she goes
there was not any new evidence. The evidence was there,
it just was not followed up on under the Biden administration.
So thank goodness, somebody finally did. And I also think
one other thing this talking about the pipe bomber and
always tying it with January six, as though it was
somehow tied with those that were there supporting President Trump.
He tried to bomb both the RNC and the DNC.
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It was not a partisan thing in that manner. So yeah,
it's time for him to get his fact straight. It
is unfortunate from someone who usually has been a little
bit more level headed Christian.
Speaker 12 (28:49):
You know, January six has been one of the most misreported, misconstrued, twisted,
tortured events in modern history. Yeah, it was awful, Yes
it shouldn't have happened. Yes it was the picture terrible.
I don't ever support attacking the police, but the lies
that have been told and retold and really basically have
kind of you know, dried and cement about this whole situation.
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It's really staggering, and it just it just makes my
skin crawl when they bring it back up again and
again and again. And by the way, I don't really
support pardoning some of the people who were responsible, but
from what I can see, and I saw a couple
of documentary by Nick Sercy that were pretty comprehensive, a
lot of the people weren't doing violence. They were just
in the building around the building, and they don't deserve
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to be in jail for year after year after year.
And by the way, a lot of the Summer of
Love types they should be in jail for year after
year after year because they did much more violence and
much more harm to the country.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Senator Mark Warner our third nominee, And speaking of lies,
that Christian mentioned, CNN perpetually in on the same lie,
and why is that we go back This is not
a nominee.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But to set the tone with context.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
August first, this was Aaron Burnett in the wake of
the Manhattan mass shooting.
Speaker 16 (30:00):
John, stay with me. I know you're obviously getting information
here in real time as we're talking. Shimon back with
us on the phone on the scene showing you're here
to John's reporting that they do know the fit. What
he looks like, male, possibly white, mustache, sunglasses in that
building isolated to they believe to various locations, including upper floors,
is where they're focused.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
What are you learning, shimone.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Possibly white except he was definitely absolutely black.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Well she meant to say hopefully white.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
That's what she think. That's what she thought, But she's
not the nominee. Oh, because that happened back in August.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
And we talked about that's just juicy context.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
This thank you just happened yesterday. Jake Tamper, we call
him Fake Tapper CNN.
Speaker 14 (30:42):
After nearly five years of investigation, the FBI finally announced
that they had arrested a suspect. A suspect accused of
planting pipe bonds near the Republican and Democratic National Committee
headquarters the night before the January sixth, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
One capital attack.
Speaker 14 (30:58):
Brian Cole Junior, a thirty year old white man from
the DC suburbs, is charts with transporting and explosive device
in interstate commerce and with malicious destruction by means of
explosions see in an observed local and federal law enforcement
outside his home in Woodbridge, Virginia this morning. Attorney General
Pambondi gave very few details about the suspect this morning,
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but said, this cold case has been solid.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And yet even the details that you had, Jake Tapper,
were not correct because the suspect, Brian Cole Jr. Is
not a thirty year old white man. He is extremely
and obviously black, not white. Jesse Waters along with Kevin Cork,
who's got ties here in the Denver area.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Pat us alert.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
We've just got new pictures of the January sixth pipe
bomb suspect, Bryan Cole Junior. It was arrested after nearly
five years. He's a thirty year old black man. And
unless you're watching CNN.
Speaker 14 (31:55):
Ryan Cole Junior, a thirty year old white man from
the DC suburbs, is charts with transporting an explosive device.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Why do they keep doing that? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Senior national correspondent Kevin Cork is here with more details. Kevin,
who's also not white.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
See No, there's a new show that's actually.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Funny, you know, Jep Tapper. Where do you even be here? Deborah?
Speaker 8 (32:22):
Oh my goodness, you know, it's just so interesting to
me because you know I've said before on the show,
that's the sound of the death of journalism. Well that's
actually now it's rolling over in his grave. It's just
continuing to it is inexcusable. There used to be a
time where if that was said so blatantly patently.
Speaker 10 (32:39):
False, that would be the story. And so they just
plow ahead with it.
Speaker 8 (32:43):
And to what you're saying is you know when you say,
hopefully there is a narrative that they want to fix
over every story, and they do it now without even
hesitating to find out if it's true. So all the
War America should say, there's already that predisposition.
Speaker 10 (32:58):
We need to question.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Everything that Jake Tapper and CNN and many people like
him say from the very beginning, and.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It's it shouldn't be that difficult total, But you're in
the headspace of does the narrative drive the story and
the reporting or does the story and the reporting drive
the narrative.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
It's obviously the former. With the mainstream media, it's not news.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
They don't care about news.
Speaker 12 (33:18):
They don't want to share news, they don't want to
report news, they want to share their narrative.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
That's simple, and you think you'd be embarrassing.
Speaker 12 (33:25):
And by the way, doesn't he have an I don't
know how it works, But doesn't Jake Tapper have any earpiece?
Wouldn't it be a producer screaming no, no, you got
the race wrong. Correct it on air asap right well? Also,
if he did right away, not a big deal. You
made a mistake. We all make mistakes. Did they correct it?
When did they correct it? I don't know if they
ever corrected. I mean, do they care?
Speaker 15 (33:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:43):
And was he reading the teleprompter? And who wrote it?
And how hard it?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Really, you know, you could almost excuse it's breaking. But
you've been on the air Ryan when there's been breaking stories.
Speaker 10 (33:52):
I have too.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
You don't say anything you don't know, and you say
I don't know yet facts are coming in and.
Speaker 10 (33:58):
You give the minimal possible.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
Trust is completely broken with the media, and that's actually
unfortunate for a republic because it's supposed to play a
very important place of disseminating information and facts.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Ron Bergenhey, you stay class.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
San Dieges going to vote on the telephone the White Man.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Indeed, those are nominees.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Representative Jasmine Kroc and we know who Dever's voting for
Governor Tima Senator Mark Warner, Jack Tapper, We'll get Christian's
vote and yours five seven seven three nine. We come
back wrapping up the Right side of Hollywood after this,
closing out the right side of Hollywood with your texts
and your votes, because your vote matters.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
This is going back to our start of the hour
conversation on the documentary Lway coming out on Netflix on
the twenty second of December. Right, I've often wondered what
person could possibly bring the majority of all Colorado voters together,
regardless of party politics, as governor of Colorado. I believe
that person is the Duke of Denver, John Elway. He
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may just be right.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Has he ever expressed any interest in that regard, I
don't know. I think he has no.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
People said, you know, obviously the people would suggest it
like why not him? But I don't know that he's
ever responded to that. Very interesting this from Peppi Patty.
She says, two pm Fridays on k How Must Listen Radio, Man,
I love all of Ryan's shows, but add Deborah and
Christian and it's pure gold.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Huge of true.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But then peppy Patty turns into petty Patty very quickly
turns on a diamond, says this. Ryan, hearing Deborah when
starting to say her name, halt, A light went off
for me.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
From now on, she will be Jasmine krock of play
to me.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Wow, very petty Patty, Well done, Ryan, They're all fools.
But Warner gets my vote, Senator Warner on the board.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And then this one Ryan.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I will also never forget that maybe five or a
few more years ago, when a Somalian threw a seven
year old little white boy over the railings in the
Mall of America at Minneapolis, nobody did or said a
gd thing. I do remember that incident, Yeah, as a
matter of fact. But it's what Deborah was talking about
during the break. When it breaks down a certain way
with a certain narrative, it disappears from the news.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Or if it's a Christian.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
White nationalist or who they perceive that to be, Oh,
that'll dominate the headlines in twenty four to seven, Toto,
we know that Deborah.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Is voting for Jasmine Crockett. Your vote is for whom.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
He's such a fool, I mean, Tim Waltz is such
a fool. He's so it's like you cut a tree
the rings, you count the rings.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
If you were just.
Speaker 12 (36:32):
Surgic, it's just surgery on him, you'd find just fool
like little fool DNA. He's so ridiculous, he's so absurd,
he's so cartoonish. She couldn't invent him. He's amazing. He's
my Fool of the Week. And ye it's stiff competition.
I don't get me any change of mind from you.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
No, no, I will give it.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
I will give an honorary shout out to Jake Tapper
for once again on CNN, you know, mislabeling the race
of a perpetrator alleged again. But I'm sorry, Jasmine Crockett
Christmas time, don't go just stop, all right.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
That'll do it for this edition of the Right Side
of Hollywood. My thanks as always, Debrah, Flora Christian Toto
for joining us. Still time for you to vote on
our Friday Fool of the Week. Might even get a
vote from Jesse in there Jesse Thomas alongside running the
board for US today.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Stay tuned. Lots of local coming up in our second hour.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Natalie Tennant has an event on Saturday for Never Surrender
National and so does Aaron Lee. Protect Caps, Colorado, stick
and stay Ryan Schooling Live rolls on after this