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Deborah Flora and Christian examine the differing takes on Stephen Colbert's demise at CBS from long-time late night hosts - and rivals - Jay Leno and David Letterman.
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Deborah Flora and Christian examine the differing takes on Stephen Colbert's demise at CBS from long-time late night hosts - and rivals - Jay Leno and David Letterman.
Our Friday Fool of the Week nominees: Cincinnati Police Chief Terri Theetge, Democratic Socialist candidate for New York City mayor Zohran Mamdani, and CNN law enforcement analyst John Miller.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Friday and Denver, and that means it's time once
again for the Right Side of Hollywood, with award winning
filmmaker Deborah Flora and Christian Total of Hollywood in Toto
on the intersection of pop culture, entertainment and politics in America.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right here, I'm Ryan Schuling.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Live, Arnold, Jacko, Tiger, SpongeBob. What is that? What's with
(00:34):
the weaver teeth? I haven't sworn a carved years. I'm intimidated.
All these guys they think big. Now I don't know
where to start.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Come on, brother, grip it and rip it.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I guess I need to update my happy place to
something a little more age appropriate.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Mister Gilmore, we're done with golf.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
If you see the happy I fell in love with.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Let's go. We'll put a little acory.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
For this one.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I am so sorry, Okay, now right out of the gates.
Spoiler warning, spoiler alert, because Christian Total, I've never seen
him this worked up, this agitated in my life about
anything than the first three minutes of this movie. Happy
(02:00):
Gilmore Too, as seen on Netflix. Now, it was what
was it Friday night? Christian? Hey, you know Happy Gilmore
dropped on Netflix. You want to get together watch it tonight.
You' say, yeah, let's be coming over. We'll do that.
You got some beers or whatever? Start a wht. Dave Tepper,
by the way, a special cameo program director on the board. There.
I got to ask you, have you seen Happy Gilmore
too yet?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, Well, if you don't want it ruined, then take
off your headphones.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And to me, a spoiler is something that's significant, that's
deeper into the movie. This is like almost out of
the starting.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, what we heard in that trailer and what I
I didn't expect because it totally misleads you, I believe.
Isn't Julie Bowen in that trailers?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yes, and here's some context. She was the love interest
in the original film. Correct it is now nearly thirty
years later. She's in her fifties. And she said to
the press, Hey, I get it. This is Hollywood. It's
a it's a very youth oriented industry. I'm sure they'll
fire me from this project. I don't need to be there.
They're going to hire some young girl to be the
new love interest. And Adam Sandler said, oh no, you're
(03:02):
critical to the story. What's stuck by her and she
was very happy about that, as was I. By the way,
because there is legitimate sexism in Hollywood, Yes there is.
Adam Sandler is well known to be a good guy,
very loyal to his friends, certainly nice off screen. Is
nothing to say otherwise it needs.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
To be said to Julie Bowen at age fifty whatever.
Still a smoke show, Still a smoke show. Let me,
let's call it what it is. Let's be honest. Absolutely
what we find out three minutes in Christian are I pete?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
They came off within five minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Wow, she's written out, She's written out of the movie.
And you were you were angry. I was like in shock,
like why why, why would they do that? Anybody watching
and had to have that same reaction. But where do
they go from there? And I kind of get it
as a plot device. How does happy Gilmour hit rock bottom? Well,
I got to say, if he's got Julie Bowen in
(03:53):
his life, it's really hard to hit rock bottom because
she's amazing and the character's amazing, and they had an
amazing love story and you talk about yeah all time backfire,
you know in hockey rag I mean, was beautiful. Yeah,
but then he's got these kids, including his own children
that are cast in the movie as daughters.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I believe right at least one and so well.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And what another thing that this touch is on a
theme which I found to be compelling was alcoholism and
John Daly who's been known to im vibe and maybe excessively,
and he was I think he was a wonderful cameo,
maybe the best in this film in terms of his presence,
his character and the humor that he brought to it.
But what did you make of Happy Gilmore's rock Bottom
(04:35):
and his ascent from there in the film?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, it's part of the story. I think it was
comedically engaging.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I remember when Smoking the Band, it might have been
the second film in that series. I feel like he
was like finding bottles of liquor in different odd places
back in the day. It wasn't drinking is a serious issue,
but we can also poke fun at things as well.
This is a comedy. We can't get too serious and
right sober about it. But yeah, I had no problem
with that. It kind of was a stout which in
the arc of the character, he's got to rEFInd who
(05:02):
he is, what his love is and be a.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Good dad to his kids. Now, Devah, I didn't know
coming in had seen this movie.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Yeh, No, I had not.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
And I love the fact that you guys got together
with some bruise to watch it, because that's what I
usually say about Adam Sandler films, which is like or
our son, by the way, who twenty is taking us
all back to the Will Ferrell and the Adam Sandler
movies because it's that kind of age group. But Christian
and I were talking about this, you know, killing off
of Julie Bowen and having you know, had temporary insanity
and been an actor in Hollywood for.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
A little while.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
They do talk about the three stages of actresses, which
is who's Meg Ryan? Get me Meg Ryan? I want
a young Meg Ryan. I mean that's kind of the
ark of an actor. But I think what's interesting about
this is I have not seen it, so I cannot
comment on the movie. But that replacing Julie I think
was a disingenuous situation. I think about a different situation.
(05:51):
I do appreciate actresses who have a sense of where
they are and casting. I mean, when I was twenty five,
I was already being cast as a mother of teenagers,
you know.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I mean, that's just what they do.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
But it's different than like in Top Gun Maverick, where
Kelly McGillis came out and said, look, I've embraced my
life being a woman of my age and not wanting
to act anymore, so I haven't kept up what is
necessary to be in this role. And they replaced her
with Jennifer Connelly. But anyway, I find that interesting. I
think that is unfortunate. I do think there's self awareness,
(06:21):
but too bad. I guess it's a plot point, but
they misled us.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I want to give one of the example that no
one talked about except for me. I think on the
interwebs here when they made Bill and Ted Face the
Music a couple of years ago. Now, of course, Keanu
Reeves and Alex Winter are the stars who can't replace
them that they're replaceable, and I guess for the people
in the mid to late fifties, they look reasonably youthful.
I mean, they don't look that different. But there was
a short sequence early in the film with their girlfriends
(06:46):
now wives from the earlier films were there and they
were in therapy. It was kind of a cute idea.
Here's Bill and Ted both married in therapy with their wives,
except they didn't use the original actresses from that first
and or second film. They recast them with younger actors.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Nah.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Yeah, are There are a lot of movies, and I'll
just say that really are written by men who want
to believe that they can be this person ended up
with that babe.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
I think of the movie Knocked Up, et cetera, and
you know, there's a certain amount of Hollywood to it.
I am not someone to cry foul wherever I see this,
but it is something to examine, and I appreciate you
guys bringing it up in that way. You know. It's
it's always whenever I would go out and I'd get
cast as a wife, I would know that my husband
would actually be like at least twice my age and
be the bumbling idiot and me my job is a
(07:32):
you know, as a hero wife to come in and
save him.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
I don't know that's the mechanism in this.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
This you know movie, but it is a current and
common trend.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think there was a way to keep Julie Bowen
in it, though, and maybe they have marital troubles. Maybe
it's because of the alcohol. And I witnessed that first
time my dad was a recovering alcoholic. It took a
toll on a marriage, it ken, and that you would
have kept her around because she's such a strong presence
and force in his life. It could have been a
driving force in him deciding and he gets sober. They
could have explored that storyline a little bit more, and
(08:03):
they did because he went to meetings and Ben Stiller
brings his character back, You're in my world, grandma, And
I thought that was pretty good and how they did that.
And the other angle that I found interesting Christian was
that they kind of recreate this whole alternative Golf League
which is based in reality and the live Golf League.
You know, the Saudi Arabians coming in and funding everything,
(08:24):
and is it going to be a threat to undermine
the entire establishment of the PGA. So they had that
plot device, but I think it was weak in my
view because all dudes credit to Haley Joel Osmont who
comes back in adulthood and he's a lot larger man now.
But I thought there could have been a better foil
to Adam Sandler. The way that Shooter McGavin was, and
he is in this movie. But it doesn't actually turn
(08:47):
out the way you think it might. But I just
thought that there was toward the end there there's like
three stages to it. Toward the end, I think it
kind of, I don't know, lost steam with the real golfers.
And there are a lot of cameos. Rory McElroy's in it,
Scottie Scheffler, a couple others against these new wave golfers.
It's like a high tech golf kind of thing going on.
But your thought of the entire script, the plot, and
(09:10):
how it developed along those lines, I.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Didn't love the trailers got me worried. I thought the
film was better than the trailers.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I too.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
And I also think for a comedy, you don't push
two hours. You just don't. You need to be lean mean,
getting to get Out by the way. The Naked Gun,
the reboot of that great franchise is out in theaters
right now, just this weekend. It is roughly eighty five
eighty six minutes. That's what you want. That's a comedy, okay,
I mean, unless there's something really consequentially you've got to
(09:37):
tell in the story. But again. This is a movie
that's just chock full of cameos and callbacks and just
a quick note about it to me, happy Gaallmer two.
I enjoyed it, I laughed. I didn't love it, didn't
hate it, but it just felt like a celebration of
the first film. I'm thinking, I don't think i'll watch
this again or quote the lines per se the same
not but I do that with the original, and I
(09:58):
feel like this was just like an homage. It was
like a misology trip.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's a great point, and I.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Guess there's something technically wrong with that, But I'd love
another really great comedy.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
So something fresh and original.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
I want to just say one thing to what you're
saying Ryan about keeping Julie Bowen's character around. One thing
Hollywood does not know how to do. And I'm not
talking about Adam Sandler in particular. They don't really understand
a lot of time healthy relationships, and they don't know
how to sustain it. After the initial sizzle of romance
and getting together. It would have been very compelling to
show a truly great relationship bottoming out. Could have been
(10:29):
she said, this is it. I can't do this anymore.
I'm leaving, and she did that to get him to
a healthier place. But they just don't know how to
get past the sizzle of romance and realize that the
deep abiding love that comes after that is really wonderful.
Few movies show it. I love things like Cinderellaman and
some other movies like that show how you can be
(10:51):
better together.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
And I really don't like when they create that.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Stereotype of the wife who's like, you know, dogging on
the husband and tearing down or oh, we got to
kill her off because we don't know what to do
with a happy, good relationship, which gotta go away.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
There was so much room for boy meets girl, Boy
falls in love with girl, they live happily every after.
But here we go into sequel, boy loses girl and
then the redemption. There's a natural arc to that.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
We make a joke about it because Disney movies, even
if you look at it, there's always one parent that's dead.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You can't have both, even.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
In an animated movie, I mean Finding Nemo, even that
the mongfish had to be gone, you know, or or movies.
You're right, they can't sustain it. Well, we need a
new love interest. Because all we know is the sizzle
of the moment, not the sustaining of real love.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And that's a good point. Also, I remember the movie
Ted with Mark Wahlberg and Mila Kunis. That was a
love story in a way, and then of course Ted
gets in the way for the sequel, She's had a picture,
they're broken up. There's a lot of there's a lot
to be said about a romance, a relationship, of marriage,
the ups and downs, and there's lots of humor there too.
There is they don't get creatively intrigued by that possibility
(11:59):
it's going to be like, oh, new love interest.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Well, there was one line that I remember when The
Little Miss Sunshine won the Academy Award. It's really about
dysfunctional family. And when they were giving this award to
the screenwriter and they said this is the feel good
movie of the year, I'm like, oh my gosh, this
is I think this whole family needs therapy and intervention.
But they said this line, they said, you write what
you know. There it is, and there it is. And
(12:22):
when you look at Hollywood, for the most part, insular,
silo oriented, they all they know is a lot of dysfunction. Well,
that's what they write. They may not know the happily
ever after. What does that actually look like? Probably not
like Julie Bond getting killed off in the first three minutes.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Exactly. A lot of death to that movie could have
been explored. She's Deborah Floora Christian Toto with me. This
is the right side of Hollywood. Christian. I'm gonna let
you pick where we go next. Choose your adventure either
the Daily Show, Mocking the City, Sweeney ad for American
Eagle and Jeans, or let versus Letterman Ohlbert.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I was gonna immediately say the first one, but the
second one is you see too, So let's go Leno
versus a Letterman.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Okay, we'll start with David Letterman here, and right out
of the gate, he's being asked about Colbert losing his show,
and wow, is this out of touch with reality? In
my view?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Did you guys hear about the Stephen Colbert thing. It's
all very strange, it's very complicated. But it wasn't a
bit of a surprise, wasn't it. It was about ten
years ago we all used to do that show that
Stephen Colbert now does, and ten years ago I quit
and left and then Stephen Colbert comes along and pretty
(13:35):
quickly established himself as a precise, crisp, witty political satirist,
and often his target has been the current administration. And
based on that and just the overall entertainment quota of
the show drew a great audience and people became not
(13:57):
addicted to, but always looking forward to political satire from
Stephen Colbert was very good at it and for ten
years I think, became the face of the network.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I dispute that last point, but just for example, a
political satirist would satirize everyone, including Joe Biden and Democrats.
But what does he do instead? Over this last week,
he's had Adam Schiffon, he had Kamala Harrison last night.
Listen to how this went.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
I mean, there's there's a lot of personal stuff in
the book. I mean, poor Dougie. For example, my birthday's
in October, the elections in November.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You see where I'm going.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
I don't, And Dougie kind of dropped the ball on
the birthday.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
He didn't get you anything.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Oh, you have to read the book, all right.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Then tell me the page.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Tell me the page.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But Barr goes right to break after what was the
point of that.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Why is she laughing at everything?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Why she laughing?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Can you when I hear her voice, I'm like, this
woman ran for the presidency of the United States of
America and actually believes everybody cares that her husband did
not get her a birthday present.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
This was a segment on his show to what end?
Now the other point I'm going to make Alissa Slopkin,
Senator from Michigan on this week. What happened there? She
missed some very important votes in the Senate to be
on this guys show. It's just a it's political hackery
total that's not funny.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It's unbelievable. I mean, Kamala Harris laughing through everything. And
I think at one point they told her it's tough
to laughing, wou'd you? And she did tone it down,
but as she's back to her authentic self, it's just unbelievable.
You know, listen, if she were speaking right now, there
would be no jokes about her. No, maybe how great
she is, how cool she is lady, how bad the
(15:58):
gup uh you know attacks on her are. I mean,
I don't remember a single joke about Kamala Harris I
think Saturday Night Live poked funny little bit both.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Maya Roudolph, though as comedy a little barely so much more.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Like Mamala Kamala. They did that shtick which was not
fun hired and bad the first time they did it.
I mean it would have been a comedy oasis of nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Let's go to Jay Lennel real quick here, Deborah, and
then get your thoughts on the other side. He was
sitting down for an interview here with the Reagan Presidential
Library about comedy and what his approach is to it.
From a political angle, comedy can be used to unite
or or divide people.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Do you have any advice on how we can use
it for common.
Speaker 9 (16:40):
Ground un You know, funny is funny people. You think
you know it's funny when someone who is not uh,
when you make fun of their side and they laugh
at it. You know, I just find getting out. I
don't think anybody wants to hear a lecture.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
To me, just when I was with Rodney, was always
in the Economy Awards, get to the joke as quickly
as possible.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
About Dangerfiel know Colbert his monologues were these angry lectures,
just stern and like Taciturn and with Jay Leno, what
he's saying here is exactly right. If a comedian makes
fun of Donald Trump, like let's say Dave Chappelle and
it's funny, the three of us are going to laugh
at me.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Well, and that is the whole point of humors, to
be able to laugh at oneself and a situation, and
it does bring people together.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
I think about George W.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Bush and Dana Carvey and also Bush Senior, and they
both sat there and howled as Dana Carvey absolutely skewered
them in an appropriate manner. I mean, it needs to
be even handed. And you know there and you may
be playing this clip coming up, but I think about
when Jay and said Jay Leno says, why would you
offend half of your audience? That is not even handed.
(17:51):
And I want to make one comment about what David
Letterman said. He goes, well, it's complicated about Stephen Colbert
being let go.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
It's not complicated.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
He was losing forty to fifty million dollars annually.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
And finally Hollywood.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
And entertainment is catching up with the fact that it
is a business and the consumers are saying, I don't
want to be lectured to. I don't want to be
lectured at, and I want to laugh. That's the point
of comedy.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
That's a misdirection. By the way, when he said it's complicated,
that was his way of saying, I know the show
is losing its shirt. I can't say it because it's
going to basically derail my opinions on this, but I've
got to say it just to be quasi honest. He's
not being honest.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Yeah, quasi is the key.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Here's Dave Letteran's final thought on Colbert and his departure.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
I think this one day, if not today, the people
at CBS who have manipulated and handled handled this are
going to be embarrassed because this is gutlass.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I only wish this is gonna happen to me. Maybe
this would have been.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
So great for me, Yeah, this would have been unbelievable
as a lifelong Letterman fan.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I'm talking going back to like eighty two in his
show First Start. I think you'll him in that Christian
and perhaps you too, Deborah. He took on the man,
the establishment, general electric his bosses was weird. He didn't
know what he was going to say next. That's what
made him great. He was unpredictable. Colbert was painfully predictable.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Christian absolutely a little bit like Howard Stern where he
was so raw and just couldn't be contained and would
she wanted to say, and similar didn't have boundaries or
or any sort of censors on him. Listen, the letterman
who left his show at the very end was becoming
basically Colbert. Yeah, that was goodering political, he was getting
one sided. He was losing his fastball. And credit to
(19:32):
him that he stepped away and said, hey, I'm done,
Prolly left at.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The right time. He's Christian total Deborah Floor alongside. You
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Speaker 11 (21:08):
This is still an open investigation and all potential charges
are being investigated for everyone involved. All investigative tools and
techniques are on the table, including were some of these
(21:29):
individuals overserved at some local establishments. It is clear to
us that alcohol played a part, a significant part in
this incident.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And whose fault is that? Oh my god, Christiaan reminded
me of this during the break. I had seven nominees
coming in. This would have been the eighth, but I
had to lead with it. I'm so glad you brought
this up, Christian That Chief Terry Fiach, Cincinnati chief of police,
and I couldn't tell her standing there with this press conference,
she blamed every everybody, accept the assailants, those that beat
(22:03):
this white woman within an inch of her life. The
photos of her on social media after were ghoulish, and
her husband and yes, the suspects are black. That just
happens to be a fact. But in this case, when
she's standing there, that's just one example. She tried to
blame it on the alcohol. Remember that song, Yeah, I
(22:25):
know what you do out. Blame it on the alcohol.
Blame it on the people that serve the alcohol. Blame
it on the actual white couple. They might have had
a hand in this too, they might be facing charges too.
Blame it on the bystanders. Not enough of them called
the police. I'm standing there going is this the chief
of police or the defense attorney for those that are accused.
(22:45):
She's like throwing out all these other reasons. And people
like the people who conducted the beat down are responsible
for the beatdown. I don't care how much they drank.
Who served it to him? Chris, You see me, I've
got I'm pretty drunk sometimes and I don't get like this.
I don't start pummeling you within an interviewer like, nor
would I.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
This woman is a fool and a tool.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Like goodness, this is what we're facing now in American
cities like Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Deborah, Oh it is.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
It is crazy to me. She's in the wrong job.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
And you know, when we don't understand, I don't I
don't care that she's a woman. I don't care her
skin color she has. I don't care anything about her.
Is she the right person to bring law and order
to a city? And if you are already excusing the behavior,
you do not understand what law enforcement is about, and
even speaking about it that openly before there's even been
(23:39):
an investigation, it's I hope the people of Cincinnati rise
up and say enough of this complete endorsement of the
perpetrators and the blaming of the victims. It's just I'm
almost speechless that that ever happens.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Really, all these different directions that she went there Christian
excess for the perpetrators themselves.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Well, here's the thing. When I mentioned this to you,
I think off air, and then you quickly got it.
But what I was responding to was when she referred
to the social media images and videos, blame the media's no, she'said, well,
one of the things she said was it was taking
it was potentially taken out of context, and I think
a reporter, thank goodness for them, said how yeah, and
she said hamadahammahama. Oh, she did a Ralph Crampton yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
And she blamed people that released that footage, I mean
social media.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
She said, it's the people in here, it's your fault.
Like what, No, the two people who conducted themselves like
savage animals and beat this other couple are at fault.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
And by the way, if you're really about law and order,
when you say thank goodness, there is actually clear evidence
of exactly what happened. Justice will be done. That is
like being handed a Shmorgas sport of evidence that's not
what she's looking at.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah. I don't think fool and tool are enough Christian
lady right there. This is definitely the most I got
as worked up over that as christened it over Julie
Bowen being killed off three minutes. Yeah, that's why there
is here. So we go from the chief of police
in Cincinnati to a mayoral candidate that wants to defund
the police, and he said it nut once, not twice,
but several I think dozen times publicly, either in speeches
(25:16):
or online and posts on x formerly tweets on Twitter.
And he's asked a real softball underhand from this journalist
who's like, no, you're a good guy, but do you
regret saying that you wanted to defund the police? Listen
to his answer, growing reflected, and I feel, in Fairnessy,
you've been good about talking about growing and reflecting and
always having conversations.
Speaker 12 (25:37):
Do you twice you hadn't said some of those things
a few years back. My statements in twenty twenty eight
were ones made amidst a frustration that many New Yorkers
held at the murder of George Floyd and the inability
(25:59):
to deliver on what Eric Adams of all people described
as the right for all of us to be able
to enjoy safety and justice, that we need not choose
between the two.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That was, Yeah, I regret saying defund the police. Deborah
talk about not ready for prime time Zorah Mundani.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Probably the first hard question he's ever been asked. It
wasn't even hard, but that the stilted and long delay
before he spoken what I find I should find this
kind of humorous. He's basically talking about he was just
expressing this shared frustration. Well, he's a socialist, so everything
is collective, including his frustration. But the whole point of
this is when he's talking about safety on the streets,
(26:43):
that doesn't happen by defunding the police. Maybe, yes, there
are police officers that do not uphold the high standard
that that job requires, but the vast majority are amazing.
If you really want safety, how about support the police
and work within the system. But I just think his
shared frustration is like his shared idea of you know, collectivism.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Basically, that's so good Christian.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You know, you can change your mind in politics and
in life, and I think that's sometimes that's actually a
healthy thing, a healthy impulse. The question is why why
did you do that? What were the what was the
thinking process behind that evolution? They never questioned him about that.
They didn't question Kamala Harris about that when she flipped
hop on her things. Also, the fact that he didn't
have an answer right ready, go there is ridiculous. The
(27:29):
fact that you didn't even describe it. Addically, how they
launched that question and you were kind of parroting what
that journalist did, But it was absurd the way he
framed that question.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You say, do you regret saying defund the police the
actual three words, which he repeated time and again, saying
that the police needed to be defunded, torn down. Yeah,
social workers sent out to handle situations instead. He was
that guy.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
And by the way, you can send out a tweet
we've all done it where we're a little hot headed.
Is a little bit of a hot take, as they say,
But he had most multiple, multiple examples and have sings
just out with that message. And by the way, if
you're looking at a big city police department, there's a
ton of people of color there. There's a ton of
diversity there. It's not a bunch of white people who
are kind of attacking black people and people of color
(28:15):
that in himself is always ignored, always pushing on the table.
I guarantee the police force in New York City has
got more diversity than any group of any people anywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So Zoran Mundani, Democratic Socialist nominee for mayor in New
York City. God help if he wins that race, joining
the police chief in Cincinnati, Terry fiech As our nominees
for Friday Fool of the Week. Focus is as tough
of a field as I have seen.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Sometimes you are cruel to make us decide this next one.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
We're going to leave it to three because these are
the top three CNN coverage of the Manhattan mass shooter.
In real time with a photo, very clear photo of
this shooter walking with the gun, you could see this
guy and kind of make out maybe who he was,
what national allie, what race he was. Maybe this is
how CNN chows to cover it. It's John Miller answering
(29:05):
a question from Aaron Burnett on CNN.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Was his space visible?
Speaker 13 (29:09):
I mean, do they have any idea at this point
who he is?
Speaker 14 (29:13):
They do not know who he is. They know he
is a male, possibly white. He's wearing sunglasses, he appears
to have a mustache, and that picture has been distributed
to every police officer in New York City, particularly, has
been sent to the phones of the search teams inside
(29:35):
that building, because whenever they encounter a group of people,
the first thing they have to figure out is is
that individual among these people hiding among victims or pretending
to be an office worker, because one thing you don't
want to have happen is to have this kind of
cordon where you're trying to evacuate people in groups as
you can get them to a safe carritor and have
(29:56):
this person slip out with them. So, yes, they have
the picture, and they have distributed to everybody on the scene.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
All right, all right, John, stay with me.
Speaker 13 (30:05):
I know you're obviously getting information here in real time
as we're talking. Shimon back with us on the phone
on the scene, showing you're here to John's reporting that
they do know the fit. What he looks like, male,
possibly white, mustache, sunglasses in that building, isolated to they
believe to various locations, including upper floors, is where they're focused.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
What are you learning, Shimone, deb.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
The photo had been distributed, we could look at it.
You can see this guy on there. He was possibly white,
but definitely not.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
You know what I'm that is the sound of journalism
completely with his last gasp, and people wonder why there
is such little trust in the media, And honestly, you
know what it really shows to he probably didn't see
the picture.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
I don't know that, but it is their default.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Their default is always to say that when there is
a picture sitting out there. I mean, I really do
think this is the death of CNN. I hope for
the sake of our republic, we can restore some kind
of trust in media because they're supposed to be the guardrail,
by the way against many other things, and instead they're
completely complicit with the predetermined thought. You know, once again stunned.
(31:17):
You've made it really hard today, Ryan, really hard.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Total. This is really bad and they got a lot
of backlash.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, it's really bad. But here's the problem. The guy
actually didn't say what he wanted to say. He said
possibly white. He meant to say, I hope he's white.
That's lily there he go, right, he hopes that this
person was white, and then he knew he maybe wasn't,
but could say possibly white. It's just a muddy the water, and.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm kind of leaving Aaron Burnett to the side because
she was merely parroting repeating what John Miller said, and
he's analysis. So John Miller is the nominee for Friday
Fool of the Week, Zura and Mundannie. I got a
feeling he might be a nominee every week because Democratic
Socialist nominee for New York City Mayor and Cincinnati Police
Chief Terry Fiach rough five seven seven three nine. We'll
(31:58):
get the votes of these and send your votes in.
We'll have the winner declared at the end of the program.
Here on Ryan Schreuling Life.
Speaker 10 (32:11):
For the past few weeks, the national conversation has been
totally dominated by the Jeffrey Epstein story. But who would
have thought that the thing that knocked it off the
top of the charts would be Sidney Sweeney doing the
most laid back line delivery I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 15 (32:28):
Chance are pasta on from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like hair color, personality, you have an eye color,
My chans are blue, Sidney's Tweeney Kasburg Keynes.
Speaker 11 (32:47):
Johns Johns are past down.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
My Johns are.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Blown love, My blown John's John's blow.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I love her so much.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Now I see her last name and it looks serbian
to me, and the way I would say it is
Desi lydbitch.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But is this lightitch?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I think lightch Okay there. We looked it out beforehand
and that was the Daily Show, and I thought, very
effectively mocking the Sydney Sweeney American Eagle jeans ad Christian,
you brought that to my attention. We don't have time
for the entire secment, but your.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Thoughts, well, that was a cut little thing though I
listened to that. It's very effective, it's very sexy, it's
very quiet and sort of uh, just she knows who
she is and it's interesting. It's a great ad. But
what she went on to do this is DESI Lighteck
basically mocked all the conservatives who were mocking the liberals
who were losing their minds and calling this Nazi propaganda. Yeah,
(33:41):
that's the joke, that's the target. And yet these people
on late night TV they can't even see reality when
it's sad in their face and they have to make
fun of the Ted Cruisers and making Kelly's in the world.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
It was just so weird. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
I mean the funny part that she could have made
fun of is this became such a hot button to
people on the far left, where they were saying, not
only is this about her genes because she's white. There
was somebody that went on and thought he was brilliant,
which is amazing to me. That's what happens with social media.
You give somebody a platform, they think they're brilliant. And
he said, really, and when you look at the word blue,
it means blue, but blood it means nobility, it means white.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
That's what it is.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
And you're that's the thing to mock. I mean, if
you cannot watch a blue jeans thing and comment that, yeah,
you know a lot of guys, I'm not a guy,
I think she's really great jeans.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
They really do.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
You know how tiring it is to be the left
and see race and everything.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
That's that's the point that a lot of these critics
from the right, our side we're making, is that we
can no longer say that a blonde, blue eyed, white
woman is attractive because she doesn't check any of those
work boxes.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Well, here's the problem Saturday Live made fun of. Was
it at least Stephanick maybe had that right. Maybe funny
Stephonic a couple of a year or two ago when
she was criticizing those three Ivy League presidents for being
so dismissal him, that was the target. But no, SNL
had to make fun of the Republican woman, not the
(35:07):
obvious target of people just kinda disc disking, rampant and campus.
That's how torture these comedians are.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
It is indeed nine.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Your thoughts on that, as well as your votes for
Fool of the Week. Let's get to our celebrity panel contestants.
Debraah Flora, your vote goes to who and why?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Oh my goodness, you've made it it so hard. Oh
my gosh.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
I'm gonna have to go with CNN, though, I mean,
it's just stunning to me that John Miller. But the
picture is there possibly possibly white, well, possibly possibly African
American also and.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Definitely so that means I'm possibly black, yes, possible.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
And the multi verse.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
And I agree with de Brown this point, Christian and
that I'm the most disappointed in John Miller when I
see Donnie, when I see the Cincinnati Police Chief, like,
of course, But your vote goes to.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Who I solid pick, But I have to go with
the Cincinnati police chief, whose name I will not remember
and don't want to remember, because her full qualifications were
again and again and again. She made a speech that
had so many insane comments and so many little, incredibly
dumb statements, all back to back to back to back
to back.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
She's got to win.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
And by the way, I get to add on to
your choice, Christian, because it was very hard. In addition,
there's a new headline that this Cincinnati police chief, after
she's scolded people for showing the video of people with
who you know, do not look like Sidney Sweeney beating
up this woman, she is now being sued for racism
with her own department or suppressing and pushing down people
(36:39):
who do have less you salvochet, lighter.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Skin genes like she has.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yes, yes, cacage.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Your votes have got three, one for each in the
text line right now five seven and seven, three nine,
don't forget. The police chief also blamed the revolving door
justice system, blamed everything except the perpetrators. I think she
blamed the weather at one point. I'm not sure. CNN's
John Miller Fool the Week vote goes to the hymn
from this Texter and then from Steven Littleton. In terms
of being the potentially most damaging the New York City
(37:09):
and elsewhere, it has to be Mandani. Send your votes
at five seven seven three nine. Dave Tepper alongside he
and I are going to discuss Koa's one hundredth birthday
celebration last night. Your favorite memories of Koa over the
hundred years send those to five seven seven threey nine
as well
It's Friday and Denver, and that means it's time once
again for the Right Side of Hollywood, with award winning
filmmaker Deborah Flora and Christian Total of Hollywood in Toto
on the intersection of pop culture, entertainment and politics in America.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right here, I'm Ryan Schuling.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Live, Arnold, Jacko, Tiger, SpongeBob. What is that? What's with
(00:34):
the weaver teeth? I haven't sworn a carved years. I'm intimidated.
All these guys they think big. Now I don't know
where to start.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Come on, brother, grip it and rip it.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I guess I need to update my happy place to
something a little more age appropriate.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Mister Gilmore, we're done with golf.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
If you see the happy I fell in love with.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Let's go. We'll put a little acory.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
For this one.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I am so sorry, Okay, now right out of the gates.
Spoiler warning, spoiler alert, because Christian Total, I've never seen
him this worked up, this agitated in my life about
anything than the first three minutes of this movie. Happy
(02:00):
Gilmore Too, as seen on Netflix. Now, it was what
was it Friday night? Christian? Hey, you know Happy Gilmore
dropped on Netflix. You want to get together watch it tonight.
You' say, yeah, let's be coming over. We'll do that.
You got some beers or whatever? Start a wht. Dave Tepper,
by the way, a special cameo program director on the board. There.
I got to ask you, have you seen Happy Gilmore
too yet?
Speaker 4 (02:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, Well, if you don't want it ruined, then take
off your headphones.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And to me, a spoiler is something that's significant, that's
deeper into the movie. This is like almost out of
the starting.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Well, what we heard in that trailer and what I
I didn't expect because it totally misleads you, I believe.
Isn't Julie Bowen in that trailers?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yes, and here's some context. She was the love interest
in the original film. Correct it is now nearly thirty
years later. She's in her fifties. And she said to
the press, Hey, I get it. This is Hollywood. It's
a it's a very youth oriented industry. I'm sure they'll
fire me from this project. I don't need to be there.
They're going to hire some young girl to be the
new love interest. And Adam Sandler said, oh no, you're
(03:02):
critical to the story. What's stuck by her and she
was very happy about that, as was I. By the way,
because there is legitimate sexism in Hollywood, Yes there is.
Adam Sandler is well known to be a good guy,
very loyal to his friends, certainly nice off screen. Is
nothing to say otherwise it needs.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
To be said to Julie Bowen at age fifty whatever.
Still a smoke show, Still a smoke show. Let me,
let's call it what it is. Let's be honest. Absolutely
what we find out three minutes in Christian are I pete?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
They came off within five minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Wow, she's written out, She's written out of the movie.
And you were you were angry. I was like in shock,
like why why, why would they do that? Anybody watching
and had to have that same reaction. But where do
they go from there? And I kind of get it
as a plot device. How does happy Gilmour hit rock bottom? Well,
I got to say, if he's got Julie Bowen in
(03:53):
his life, it's really hard to hit rock bottom because
she's amazing and the character's amazing, and they had an
amazing love story and you talk about yeah all time backfire,
you know in hockey rag I mean, was beautiful. Yeah,
but then he's got these kids, including his own children
that are cast in the movie as daughters.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I believe right at least one and so well.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And what another thing that this touch is on a
theme which I found to be compelling was alcoholism and
John Daly who's been known to im vibe and maybe excessively,
and he was I think he was a wonderful cameo,
maybe the best in this film in terms of his presence,
his character and the humor that he brought to it.
But what did you make of Happy Gilmore's rock Bottom
(04:35):
and his ascent from there in the film?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, it's part of the story. I think it was
comedically engaging.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I remember when Smoking the Band, it might have been
the second film in that series. I feel like he
was like finding bottles of liquor in different odd places
back in the day. It wasn't drinking is a serious issue,
but we can also poke fun at things as well.
This is a comedy. We can't get too serious and
right sober about it. But yeah, I had no problem
with that. It kind of was a stout which in
the arc of the character, he's got to rEFInd who
(05:02):
he is, what his love is and be a.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Good dad to his kids. Now, Devah, I didn't know
coming in had seen this movie.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Yeh, No, I had not.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
And I love the fact that you guys got together
with some bruise to watch it, because that's what I
usually say about Adam Sandler films, which is like or
our son, by the way, who twenty is taking us
all back to the Will Ferrell and the Adam Sandler
movies because it's that kind of age group. But Christian
and I were talking about this, you know, killing off
of Julie Bowen and having you know, had temporary insanity
and been an actor in Hollywood for.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
A little while.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
They do talk about the three stages of actresses, which
is who's Meg Ryan? Get me Meg Ryan? I want
a young Meg Ryan. I mean that's kind of the
ark of an actor. But I think what's interesting about
this is I have not seen it, so I cannot
comment on the movie. But that replacing Julie I think
was a disingenuous situation. I think about a different situation.
(05:51):
I do appreciate actresses who have a sense of where
they are and casting. I mean, when I was twenty five,
I was already being cast as a mother of teenagers,
you know.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I mean, that's just what they do.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
But it's different than like in Top Gun Maverick, where
Kelly McGillis came out and said, look, I've embraced my
life being a woman of my age and not wanting
to act anymore, so I haven't kept up what is
necessary to be in this role. And they replaced her
with Jennifer Connelly. But anyway, I find that interesting. I
think that is unfortunate. I do think there's self awareness,
(06:21):
but too bad. I guess it's a plot point, but
they misled us.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
I want to give one of the example that no
one talked about except for me. I think on the
interwebs here when they made Bill and Ted Face the
Music a couple of years ago. Now, of course, Keanu
Reeves and Alex Winter are the stars who can't replace
them that they're replaceable, and I guess for the people
in the mid to late fifties, they look reasonably youthful.
I mean, they don't look that different. But there was
a short sequence early in the film with their girlfriends
(06:46):
now wives from the earlier films were there and they
were in therapy. It was kind of a cute idea.
Here's Bill and Ted both married in therapy with their wives,
except they didn't use the original actresses from that first
and or second film. They recast them with younger actors.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Nah.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Yeah, are There are a lot of movies, and I'll
just say that really are written by men who want
to believe that they can be this person ended up
with that babe.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
I think of the movie Knocked Up, et cetera, and
you know, there's a certain amount of Hollywood to it.
I am not someone to cry foul wherever I see this,
but it is something to examine, and I appreciate you
guys bringing it up in that way. You know. It's
it's always whenever I would go out and I'd get
cast as a wife, I would know that my husband
would actually be like at least twice my age and
be the bumbling idiot and me my job is a
(07:32):
you know, as a hero wife to come in and
save him.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
I don't know that's the mechanism in this.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
This you know movie, but it is a current and
common trend.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think there was a way to keep Julie Bowen
in it, though, and maybe they have marital troubles. Maybe
it's because of the alcohol. And I witnessed that first
time my dad was a recovering alcoholic. It took a
toll on a marriage, it ken, and that you would
have kept her around because she's such a strong presence
and force in his life. It could have been a
driving force in him deciding and he gets sober. They
could have explored that storyline a little bit more, and
(08:03):
they did because he went to meetings and Ben Stiller
brings his character back, You're in my world, grandma, And
I thought that was pretty good and how they did that.
And the other angle that I found interesting Christian was
that they kind of recreate this whole alternative Golf League
which is based in reality and the live Golf League.
You know, the Saudi Arabians coming in and funding everything,
(08:24):
and is it going to be a threat to undermine
the entire establishment of the PGA. So they had that
plot device, but I think it was weak in my
view because all dudes credit to Haley Joel Osmont who
comes back in adulthood and he's a lot larger man now.
But I thought there could have been a better foil
to Adam Sandler. The way that Shooter McGavin was, and
he is in this movie. But it doesn't actually turn
(08:47):
out the way you think it might. But I just
thought that there was toward the end there there's like
three stages to it. Toward the end, I think it
kind of, I don't know, lost steam with the real golfers.
And there are a lot of cameos. Rory McElroy's in it,
Scottie Scheffler, a couple others against these new wave golfers.
It's like a high tech golf kind of thing going on.
But your thought of the entire script, the plot, and
(09:10):
how it developed along those lines, I.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Didn't love the trailers got me worried. I thought the
film was better than the trailers.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I too.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
And I also think for a comedy, you don't push
two hours. You just don't. You need to be lean mean,
getting to get Out by the way. The Naked Gun,
the reboot of that great franchise is out in theaters
right now, just this weekend. It is roughly eighty five
eighty six minutes. That's what you want. That's a comedy, okay,
I mean, unless there's something really consequentially you've got to
(09:37):
tell in the story. But again. This is a movie
that's just chock full of cameos and callbacks and just
a quick note about it to me, happy Gaallmer two.
I enjoyed it, I laughed. I didn't love it, didn't
hate it, but it just felt like a celebration of
the first film. I'm thinking, I don't think i'll watch
this again or quote the lines per se the same
not but I do that with the original, and I
(09:58):
feel like this was just like an homage. It was
like a misology trip.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's a great point, and I.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Guess there's something technically wrong with that, But I'd love
another really great comedy.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
So something fresh and original.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
I want to just say one thing to what you're
saying Ryan about keeping Julie Bowen's character around. One thing
Hollywood does not know how to do. And I'm not
talking about Adam Sandler in particular. They don't really understand
a lot of time healthy relationships, and they don't know
how to sustain it. After the initial sizzle of romance
and getting together. It would have been very compelling to
show a truly great relationship bottoming out. Could have been
(10:29):
she said, this is it. I can't do this anymore.
I'm leaving, and she did that to get him to
a healthier place. But they just don't know how to
get past the sizzle of romance and realize that the
deep abiding love that comes after that is really wonderful.
Few movies show it. I love things like Cinderellaman and
some other movies like that show how you can be
(10:51):
better together.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
And I really don't like when they create that.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Stereotype of the wife who's like, you know, dogging on
the husband and tearing down or oh, we got to
kill her off because we don't know what to do
with a happy, good relationship, which gotta go away.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
There was so much room for boy meets girl, Boy
falls in love with girl, they live happily every after.
But here we go into sequel, boy loses girl and
then the redemption. There's a natural arc to that.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
We make a joke about it because Disney movies, even
if you look at it, there's always one parent that's dead.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
You can't have both, even.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
In an animated movie, I mean Finding Nemo, even that
the mongfish had to be gone, you know, or or movies.
You're right, they can't sustain it. Well, we need a
new love interest. Because all we know is the sizzle
of the moment, not the sustaining of real love.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
And that's a good point. Also, I remember the movie
Ted with Mark Wahlberg and Mila Kunis. That was a
love story in a way, and then of course Ted
gets in the way for the sequel, She's had a picture,
they're broken up. There's a lot of there's a lot
to be said about a romance, a relationship, of marriage,
the ups and downs, and there's lots of humor there too.
There is they don't get creatively intrigued by that possibility
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it's going to be like, oh, new love interest.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Well, there was one line that I remember when The
Little Miss Sunshine won the Academy Award. It's really about
dysfunctional family. And when they were giving this award to
the screenwriter and they said this is the feel good
movie of the year, I'm like, oh my gosh, this
is I think this whole family needs therapy and intervention.
But they said this line, they said, you write what
you know. There it is, and there it is. And
(12:22):
when you look at Hollywood, for the most part, insular,
silo oriented, they all they know is a lot of dysfunction. Well,
that's what they write. They may not know the happily
ever after. What does that actually look like? Probably not
like Julie Bond getting killed off in the first three minutes.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Exactly. A lot of death to that movie could have
been explored. She's Deborah Floora Christian Toto with me. This
is the right side of Hollywood. Christian. I'm gonna let
you pick where we go next. Choose your adventure either
the Daily Show, Mocking the City, Sweeney ad for American
Eagle and Jeans, or let versus Letterman Ohlbert.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I was gonna immediately say the first one, but the
second one is you see too, So let's go Leno
versus a Letterman.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Okay, we'll start with David Letterman here, and right out
of the gate, he's being asked about Colbert losing his show,
and wow, is this out of touch with reality? In
my view?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Did you guys hear about the Stephen Colbert thing. It's
all very strange, it's very complicated. But it wasn't a
bit of a surprise, wasn't it. It was about ten
years ago we all used to do that show that
Stephen Colbert now does, and ten years ago I quit
and left and then Stephen Colbert comes along and pretty
(13:35):
quickly established himself as a precise, crisp, witty political satirist,
and often his target has been the current administration. And
based on that and just the overall entertainment quota of
the show drew a great audience and people became not
(13:57):
addicted to, but always looking forward to political satire from
Stephen Colbert was very good at it and for ten
years I think, became the face of the network.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I dispute that last point, but just for example, a
political satirist would satirize everyone, including Joe Biden and Democrats.
But what does he do instead? Over this last week,
he's had Adam Schiffon, he had Kamala Harrison last night.
Listen to how this went.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
I mean, there's there's a lot of personal stuff in
the book. I mean, poor Dougie. For example, my birthday's
in October, the elections in November.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You see where I'm going.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
I don't, And Dougie kind of dropped the ball on
the birthday.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
He didn't get you anything.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Oh, you have to read the book, all right.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Then tell me the page.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Tell me the page.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But Barr goes right to break after what was the
point of that.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Why is she laughing at everything?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Why she laughing?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Can you when I hear her voice, I'm like, this
woman ran for the presidency of the United States of
America and actually believes everybody cares that her husband did
not get her a birthday present.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
This was a segment on his show to what end?
Now the other point I'm going to make Alissa Slopkin,
Senator from Michigan on this week. What happened there? She
missed some very important votes in the Senate to be
on this guys show. It's just a it's political hackery
total that's not funny.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
It's unbelievable. I mean, Kamala Harris laughing through everything. And
I think at one point they told her it's tough
to laughing, wou'd you? And she did tone it down,
but as she's back to her authentic self, it's just unbelievable.
You know, listen, if she were speaking right now, there
would be no jokes about her. No, maybe how great
she is, how cool she is lady, how bad the
(15:58):
gup uh you know attacks on her are. I mean,
I don't remember a single joke about Kamala Harris I
think Saturday Night Live poked funny little bit both.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Maya Roudolph, though as comedy a little barely so much more.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Like Mamala Kamala. They did that shtick which was not
fun hired and bad the first time they did it.
I mean it would have been a comedy oasis of nothing.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Let's go to Jay Lennel real quick here, Deborah, and
then get your thoughts on the other side. He was
sitting down for an interview here with the Reagan Presidential
Library about comedy and what his approach is to it.
From a political angle, comedy can be used to unite
or or divide people.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Do you have any advice on how we can use
it for common.
Speaker 9 (16:40):
Ground un You know, funny is funny people. You think
you know it's funny when someone who is not uh,
when you make fun of their side and they laugh
at it. You know, I just find getting out. I
don't think anybody wants to hear a lecture.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
To me, just when I was with Rodney, was always
in the Economy Awards, get to the joke as quickly
as possible.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
About Dangerfiel know Colbert his monologues were these angry lectures,
just stern and like Taciturn and with Jay Leno, what
he's saying here is exactly right. If a comedian makes
fun of Donald Trump, like let's say Dave Chappelle and
it's funny, the three of us are going to laugh
at me.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Well, and that is the whole point of humors, to
be able to laugh at oneself and a situation, and
it does bring people together.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
I think about George W.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Bush and Dana Carvey and also Bush Senior, and they
both sat there and howled as Dana Carvey absolutely skewered
them in an appropriate manner. I mean, it needs to
be even handed. And you know there and you may
be playing this clip coming up, but I think about
when Jay and said Jay Leno says, why would you
offend half of your audience? That is not even handed.
(17:51):
And I want to make one comment about what David
Letterman said. He goes, well, it's complicated about Stephen Colbert
being let go.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
It's not complicated.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
He was losing forty to fifty million dollars annually.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
And finally Hollywood.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
And entertainment is catching up with the fact that it
is a business and the consumers are saying, I don't
want to be lectured to. I don't want to be
lectured at, and I want to laugh. That's the point
of comedy.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
That's a misdirection. By the way, when he said it's complicated,
that was his way of saying, I know the show
is losing its shirt. I can't say it because it's
going to basically derail my opinions on this, but I've
got to say it just to be quasi honest. He's
not being honest.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Yeah, quasi is the key.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Here's Dave Letteran's final thought on Colbert and his departure.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
I think this one day, if not today, the people
at CBS who have manipulated and handled handled this are
going to be embarrassed because this is gutlass.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I only wish this is gonna happen to me. Maybe
this would have been.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
So great for me, Yeah, this would have been unbelievable
as a lifelong Letterman fan.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I'm talking going back to like eighty two in his
show First Start. I think you'll him in that Christian
and perhaps you too, Deborah. He took on the man,
the establishment, general electric his bosses was weird. He didn't
know what he was going to say next. That's what
made him great. He was unpredictable. Colbert was painfully predictable.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Christian absolutely a little bit like Howard Stern where he
was so raw and just couldn't be contained and would
she wanted to say, and similar didn't have boundaries or
or any sort of censors on him. Listen, the letterman
who left his show at the very end was becoming
basically Colbert. Yeah, that was goodering political, he was getting
one sided. He was losing his fastball. And credit to
(19:32):
him that he stepped away and said, hey, I'm done,
Prolly left at.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The right time. He's Christian total Deborah Floor alongside. You
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Speaker 11 (21:08):
This is still an open investigation and all potential charges
are being investigated for everyone involved. All investigative tools and
techniques are on the table, including were some of these
(21:29):
individuals overserved at some local establishments. It is clear to
us that alcohol played a part, a significant part in
this incident.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And whose fault is that? Oh my god, Christiaan reminded
me of this during the break. I had seven nominees
coming in. This would have been the eighth, but I
had to lead with it. I'm so glad you brought
this up, Christian That Chief Terry Fiach, Cincinnati chief of police,
and I couldn't tell her standing there with this press conference,
she blamed every everybody, accept the assailants, those that beat
(22:03):
this white woman within an inch of her life. The
photos of her on social media after were ghoulish, and
her husband and yes, the suspects are black. That just
happens to be a fact. But in this case, when
she's standing there, that's just one example. She tried to
blame it on the alcohol. Remember that song, Yeah, I
(22:25):
know what you do out. Blame it on the alcohol.
Blame it on the people that serve the alcohol. Blame
it on the actual white couple. They might have had
a hand in this too, they might be facing charges too.
Blame it on the bystanders. Not enough of them called
the police. I'm standing there going is this the chief
of police or the defense attorney for those that are accused.
(22:45):
She's like throwing out all these other reasons. And people
like the people who conducted the beat down are responsible
for the beatdown. I don't care how much they drank.
Who served it to him? Chris, You see me, I've
got I'm pretty drunk sometimes and I don't get like this.
I don't start pummeling you within an interviewer like, nor
would I.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
This woman is a fool and a tool.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Like goodness, this is what we're facing now in American
cities like Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Deborah, Oh it is.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
It is crazy to me. She's in the wrong job.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
And you know, when we don't understand, I don't I
don't care that she's a woman. I don't care her
skin color she has. I don't care anything about her.
Is she the right person to bring law and order
to a city? And if you are already excusing the behavior,
you do not understand what law enforcement is about, and
even speaking about it that openly before there's even been
(23:39):
an investigation, it's I hope the people of Cincinnati rise
up and say enough of this complete endorsement of the
perpetrators and the blaming of the victims. It's just I'm
almost speechless that that ever happens.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Really, all these different directions that she went there Christian
excess for the perpetrators themselves.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Well, here's the thing. When I mentioned this to you,
I think off air, and then you quickly got it.
But what I was responding to was when she referred
to the social media images and videos, blame the media's no, she'said, well,
one of the things she said was it was taking
it was potentially taken out of context, and I think
a reporter, thank goodness for them, said how yeah, and
she said hamadahammahama. Oh, she did a Ralph Crampton yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
And she blamed people that released that footage, I mean
social media.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
She said, it's the people in here, it's your fault.
Like what, No, the two people who conducted themselves like
savage animals and beat this other couple are at fault.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
And by the way, if you're really about law and order,
when you say thank goodness, there is actually clear evidence
of exactly what happened. Justice will be done. That is
like being handed a Shmorgas sport of evidence that's not
what she's looking at.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah. I don't think fool and tool are enough Christian
lady right there. This is definitely the most I got
as worked up over that as christened it over Julie
Bowen being killed off three minutes. Yeah, that's why there
is here. So we go from the chief of police
in Cincinnati to a mayoral candidate that wants to defund
the police, and he said it nut once, not twice,
but several I think dozen times publicly, either in speeches
(25:16):
or online and posts on x formerly tweets on Twitter.
And he's asked a real softball underhand from this journalist
who's like, no, you're a good guy, but do you
regret saying that you wanted to defund the police? Listen
to his answer, growing reflected, and I feel, in Fairnessy,
you've been good about talking about growing and reflecting and
always having conversations.
Speaker 12 (25:37):
Do you twice you hadn't said some of those things
a few years back. My statements in twenty twenty eight
were ones made amidst a frustration that many New Yorkers
held at the murder of George Floyd and the inability
(25:59):
to deliver on what Eric Adams of all people described
as the right for all of us to be able
to enjoy safety and justice, that we need not choose
between the two.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That was, Yeah, I regret saying defund the police. Deborah
talk about not ready for prime time Zorah Mundani.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Probably the first hard question he's ever been asked. It
wasn't even hard, but that the stilted and long delay
before he spoken what I find I should find this
kind of humorous. He's basically talking about he was just
expressing this shared frustration. Well, he's a socialist, so everything
is collective, including his frustration. But the whole point of
this is when he's talking about safety on the streets,
(26:43):
that doesn't happen by defunding the police. Maybe, yes, there
are police officers that do not uphold the high standard
that that job requires, but the vast majority are amazing.
If you really want safety, how about support the police
and work within the system. But I just think his
shared frustration is like his shared idea of you know, collectivism.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Basically, that's so good Christian.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You know, you can change your mind in politics and
in life, and I think that's sometimes that's actually a
healthy thing, a healthy impulse. The question is why why
did you do that? What were the what was the
thinking process behind that evolution? They never questioned him about that.
They didn't question Kamala Harris about that when she flipped
hop on her things. Also, the fact that he didn't
have an answer right ready, go there is ridiculous. The
(27:29):
fact that you didn't even describe it. Addically, how they
launched that question and you were kind of parroting what
that journalist did, But it was absurd the way he
framed that question.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
You say, do you regret saying defund the police the
actual three words, which he repeated time and again, saying
that the police needed to be defunded, torn down. Yeah,
social workers sent out to handle situations instead. He was
that guy.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
And by the way, you can send out a tweet
we've all done it where we're a little hot headed.
Is a little bit of a hot take, as they say,
But he had most multiple, multiple examples and have sings
just out with that message. And by the way, if
you're looking at a big city police department, there's a
ton of people of color there. There's a ton of
diversity there. It's not a bunch of white people who
are kind of attacking black people and people of color
(28:15):
that in himself is always ignored, always pushing on the table.
I guarantee the police force in New York City has
got more diversity than any group of any people anywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So Zoran Mundani, Democratic Socialist nominee for mayor in New
York City. God help if he wins that race, joining
the police chief in Cincinnati, Terry fiech As our nominees
for Friday Fool of the Week. Focus is as tough
of a field as I have seen.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Sometimes you are cruel to make us decide this next one.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
We're going to leave it to three because these are
the top three CNN coverage of the Manhattan mass shooter.
In real time with a photo, very clear photo of
this shooter walking with the gun, you could see this
guy and kind of make out maybe who he was,
what national allie, what race he was. Maybe this is
how CNN chows to cover it. It's John Miller answering
(29:05):
a question from Aaron Burnett on CNN.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Was his space visible?
Speaker 13 (29:09):
I mean, do they have any idea at this point
who he is?
Speaker 14 (29:13):
They do not know who he is. They know he
is a male, possibly white. He's wearing sunglasses, he appears
to have a mustache, and that picture has been distributed
to every police officer in New York City, particularly, has
been sent to the phones of the search teams inside
(29:35):
that building, because whenever they encounter a group of people,
the first thing they have to figure out is is
that individual among these people hiding among victims or pretending
to be an office worker, because one thing you don't
want to have happen is to have this kind of
cordon where you're trying to evacuate people in groups as
you can get them to a safe carritor and have
(29:56):
this person slip out with them. So, yes, they have
the picture, and they have distributed to everybody on the scene.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
All right, all right, John, stay with me.
Speaker 13 (30:05):
I know you're obviously getting information here in real time
as we're talking. Shimon back with us on the phone
on the scene, showing you're here to John's reporting that
they do know the fit. What he looks like, male,
possibly white, mustache, sunglasses in that building, isolated to they
believe to various locations, including upper floors, is where they're focused.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
What are you learning, Shimone, deb.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
The photo had been distributed, we could look at it.
You can see this guy on there. He was possibly white,
but definitely not.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
You know what I'm that is the sound of journalism
completely with his last gasp, and people wonder why there
is such little trust in the media, And honestly, you
know what it really shows to he probably didn't see
the picture.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
I don't know that, but it is their default.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Their default is always to say that when there is
a picture sitting out there. I mean, I really do
think this is the death of CNN. I hope for
the sake of our republic, we can restore some kind
of trust in media because they're supposed to be the guardrail,
by the way against many other things, and instead they're
completely complicit with the predetermined thought. You know, once again stunned.
(31:17):
You've made it really hard today, Ryan, really hard.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Total. This is really bad and they got a lot
of backlash.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, it's really bad. But here's the problem. The guy
actually didn't say what he wanted to say. He said
possibly white. He meant to say, I hope he's white.
That's lily there he go, right, he hopes that this
person was white, and then he knew he maybe wasn't,
but could say possibly white. It's just a muddy the water, and.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I'm kind of leaving Aaron Burnett to the side because
she was merely parroting repeating what John Miller said, and
he's analysis. So John Miller is the nominee for Friday
Fool of the Week, Zura and Mundannie. I got a
feeling he might be a nominee every week because Democratic
Socialist nominee for New York City Mayor and Cincinnati Police
Chief Terry Fiach rough five seven seven three nine. We'll
(31:58):
get the votes of these and send your votes in.
We'll have the winner declared at the end of the program.
Here on Ryan Schreuling Life.
Speaker 10 (32:11):
For the past few weeks, the national conversation has been
totally dominated by the Jeffrey Epstein story. But who would
have thought that the thing that knocked it off the
top of the charts would be Sidney Sweeney doing the
most laid back line delivery I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 15 (32:28):
Chance are pasta on from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like hair color, personality, you have an eye color,
My chans are blue, Sidney's Tweeney Kasburg Keynes.
Speaker 11 (32:47):
Johns Johns are past down.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
My Johns are.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Blown love, My blown John's John's blow.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I love her so much.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Now I see her last name and it looks serbian
to me, and the way I would say it is
Desi lydbitch.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But is this lightitch?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I think lightch Okay there. We looked it out beforehand
and that was the Daily Show, and I thought, very
effectively mocking the Sydney Sweeney American Eagle jeans ad Christian,
you brought that to my attention. We don't have time
for the entire secment, but your.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Thoughts, well, that was a cut little thing though I
listened to that. It's very effective, it's very sexy, it's
very quiet and sort of uh, just she knows who
she is and it's interesting. It's a great ad. But
what she went on to do this is DESI Lighteck
basically mocked all the conservatives who were mocking the liberals
who were losing their minds and calling this Nazi propaganda. Yeah,
(33:41):
that's the joke, that's the target. And yet these people
on late night TV they can't even see reality when
it's sad in their face and they have to make
fun of the Ted Cruisers and making Kelly's in the world.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
It was just so weird. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
I mean the funny part that she could have made
fun of is this became such a hot button to
people on the far left, where they were saying, not
only is this about her genes because she's white. There
was somebody that went on and thought he was brilliant,
which is amazing to me. That's what happens with social media.
You give somebody a platform, they think they're brilliant. And
he said, really, and when you look at the word blue,
it means blue, but blood it means nobility, it means white.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
That's what it is.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
And you're that's the thing to mock. I mean, if
you cannot watch a blue jeans thing and comment that, yeah,
you know a lot of guys, I'm not a guy,
I think she's really great jeans.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
They really do.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
You know how tiring it is to be the left
and see race and everything.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
That's that's the point that a lot of these critics
from the right, our side we're making, is that we
can no longer say that a blonde, blue eyed, white
woman is attractive because she doesn't check any of those
work boxes.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Well, here's the problem Saturday Live made fun of. Was
it at least Stephanick maybe had that right. Maybe funny
Stephonic a couple of a year or two ago when
she was criticizing those three Ivy League presidents for being
so dismissal him, that was the target. But no, SNL
had to make fun of the Republican woman, not the
(35:07):
obvious target of people just kinda disc disking, rampant and campus.
That's how torture these comedians are.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
It is indeed nine.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Your thoughts on that, as well as your votes for
Fool of the Week. Let's get to our celebrity panel contestants.
Debraah Flora, your vote goes to who and why?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Oh my goodness, you've made it it so hard. Oh
my gosh.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
I'm gonna have to go with CNN, though, I mean,
it's just stunning to me that John Miller. But the
picture is there possibly possibly white, well, possibly possibly African
American also and.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Definitely so that means I'm possibly black, yes, possible.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
And the multi verse.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
And I agree with de Brown this point, Christian and
that I'm the most disappointed in John Miller when I
see Donnie, when I see the Cincinnati Police Chief, like,
of course, But your vote goes to.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Who I solid pick, But I have to go with
the Cincinnati police chief, whose name I will not remember
and don't want to remember, because her full qualifications were
again and again and again. She made a speech that
had so many insane comments and so many little, incredibly
dumb statements, all back to back to back to back
to back.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
She's got to win.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
And by the way, I get to add on to
your choice, Christian, because it was very hard. In addition,
there's a new headline that this Cincinnati police chief, after
she's scolded people for showing the video of people with
who you know, do not look like Sidney Sweeney beating
up this woman, she is now being sued for racism
with her own department or suppressing and pushing down people
(36:39):
who do have less you salvochet, lighter.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Skin genes like she has.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yes, yes, cacage.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Your votes have got three, one for each in the
text line right now five seven and seven, three nine,
don't forget. The police chief also blamed the revolving door
justice system, blamed everything except the perpetrators. I think she
blamed the weather at one point. I'm not sure. CNN's
John Miller Fool the Week vote goes to the hymn
from this Texter and then from Steven Littleton. In terms
of being the potentially most damaging the New York City
(37:09):
and elsewhere, it has to be Mandani. Send your votes
at five seven seven three nine. Dave Tepper alongside he
and I are going to discuss Koa's one hundredth birthday
celebration last night. Your favorite memories of Koa over the
hundred years send those to five seven seven threey nine
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