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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time once again for the Right Side of Hollywood
with award winning filmmaker Deborah Flora and Christian Total of
Hollywood in toto on the intersection of pop culture, entertainment,
and politics in America.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Right here on Ryan Schuling Live.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Healers aren't perfect and this one is no exception, But
I think we're doing pretty great.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Coaching extraordinary. You have a really nice smile when you laugh.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
I bought this house in the home that I could
create a second home for all of us based on
tonight'sy I succeeded. It's just me all alone in this
big empty house, and we have to control ourselves. It's
gonna take a lot of discipline on my part, but
I'm wearing Leopard.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Just in time for the holidays. Here we are, It's December.
We counted on down. You're looking for more holiday movies
to choose from? How about this one? The Family McMullen
just released I Believe on HBO Max here calendar. You're
twenty twenty five on the Right Side of Hollywood, Deborah
Floora and Christian Total yours truly, Ryan Schuling, It's the
sequel many years later, thirty years later, Wow to the brothers. McMullen,
(01:20):
you might remember that, and that unmistakable voice of Edward Burns.
Now you label it here, mister Toto. And I never
heard this comparison, but maybe I was just missing out
that he was being referred to as the next Woody Allen.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, when he broke out into the scene.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I mean, obviously Woody Allen has a certain vibe, but
Edward Burns has a New York sensibility. He told kind
of an Irish Catholic point of view, and he was
a young filmmaker. This was the nineties where indie filmmakers
were all the rage, like Kevin Smith, YEP and Steven Soderberg,
and he was the next big thing. And then he
made a bunch of movies and they kind of got
less and less famous, they made less and less money.
(01:57):
They weren't great, but he has certain sort of sensibility
to them. And it's interesting I kind of reconnect with
him in recent years, in part because he just started
making movies again, and I think he's just doing it
on really small budgets, on his own terms, with some
recognizable faces sometimes not, and I just kind of admire
him in a way that he didn't, you know, in
a sense, by his own hype, and when his movies
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weren't the flavor of the month, he just kept doing
it on his terms.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And I think it can be done. It's really hard.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Any movie that gets made in the indie realm is
like is almost a miracle onto itself. And this one
is enjoyable, and it has a little nostalgia to it.
And you know, I think because that Irish Catholic background
he has that he injects into his stories gives it
some flavor.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I like that too, now, Deborah, this film apparently won
the Grand Jury Prize at the Sundance Film Festival, again
thirty years after The Brothers McMullen debuted in theaters The
Family McMullen.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Do you remember the original a little bit?
Speaker 6 (02:52):
And I do remember obviously, you know Ed Burns in
his career and being very unique and and I think,
as Christian said, it was definitely that period where people
were breaking through. I appreciate the fact by the way
that he has done things at his own pace, and
it's it's interesting that a sequel this many years later
has gotten that kind of critical acclaim. So it'll be
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interesting to watch it and see again.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It is just debuted as of one week ago today
on HBO Max with Edward Burns. One final question to
follow up with you on this one, Christian, You were
one of only seven film reviewers on Rotten Tomatoes who
has submitted a review for the film, so it doesn't
have enough to register with the rating. I just looked
real quickly, though, and six of the seven were generally
(03:35):
positive reviews, including your own, in which you say Edward
Burns returns to indie hit that launch career helped define
decade you talked about the nineties here.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Have you seen the film front to back? Front to back?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Is that a movie?
Speaker 6 (03:51):
This movie all the way through?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, okay, just.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Make sure never review a movie I's seen.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Wait wait, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well, the reason I ask is because sometimes your reviews
are embargoed and you're not allowed to talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Oh okay, if this is posted, this is public. This
is fine.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That's the only reason I was asking. Sure, Now that
I reflect upon it, it was kind of a stupid question.
But along that vein, though, what would you say to
families that might be getting together for the holidays and
considering watching this movie?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
It's a sweet, slight movie.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I enjoyed it. The dialogue is better than your usual film.
It's good for the holidays because it's if family's gathering
together some of the conflicts they have. There isn't enough
for romantic subplots to gain your attention if you have
some nostalgia for the first film, or just for him himself.
You know, he's his mid fifties. Now he's letting himself
age on screen. Connie Nielsen is here or she's another
(04:42):
oh you know, yeahs who we've seen over decades. There's
something sweet about that, and I like em.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
This is my age, my demographic too. Maybe I'm just
sort of reflecting too much of my own biases, but
you know, watching people who kind of grew up in
front of our faces acknowledge the assage of time. And
this is a father who's grown children and moving back
in with them briefly, and the conflicts that stirs, and
it's about, you know, moving forward.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
It's it's a very family based story.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
It does it's a pun based in the movie's title,
but I enjoyed a lot of that's it's refreshing.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
The family McMullin. It's out on HBO Max right now
and gather the family. Whether you're a McMullin, Irish, Catholic
or other, you can enjoy it for the holidays. Deborah
floora Christian total alongside Deborah pop quiz, what's your favorite
all time Christmas song?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (05:30):
Christmas song? Okay, I'm sorry, we're in the entertainment rule.
We have multiple playlists right now. You know, we've got
Christmas classics, and then we've got a whole nother one
that just focuses as we talk about the Manger, which
is Jesus, Mary and Joseph Christmas playlist. I can't pick one, Ryan,
that's like, I don't know that Mary, did you know
(05:51):
that's a great one.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I might have to go with Bing Crosby and David
Bowie doing Little Drummer.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
That is a really good one, MARIZI yeah, rel what.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
A perfect combination of voices that don't belong together to
get work together.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
By the way, in generations to don't don't belong together.
I remember, well, I don't remember the first time that aired,
thank goodness, but when it did, not only did it
not belong together. In sound you see this visual of
Bing Crosby and David Bowie on camera together and they
make this angelic peace on Earth, goodwill to me. Yeah,
that's quite it. That's a mashup and it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
It be the shamm I can bring us back with
that to close out the right side of Hollywood for
this edition. But just listen carefully to this one. It's
just an excerpt. You'll see maybe where I'm going with this.
We're going to the chairman of the board.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Folks. All right, break sinata when you want to get serious.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Okay, here's jingle bells, Baby.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way. What fun
it is to ride and a one horse open sla
jingle bell jingle bells, jingle all the way. Oh, what
fun it is to ride in a one horse open slave,
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dashing through the snow, horse open slave are the fields?
We go, laughing all the way.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Okay, now you number it, You enjoy it? Right, anything's good,
everything's copa stic, have a great holiday. Right.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Nope, I am sorry to inform our audience that song
it's racist.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
Jay Bells is a classic Christmas carol to most of us.
Our kids learn how to sing it. It's awesome, right, Well,
according to joy Reid, remember her, she says that the
beloved holiday tune is racist. That far left liberal host
shared this video on Instagram which claims quote jingle Bells
was written by a Confederate soldier made making fun of
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black people.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Charles, did you know? I didn't know that?
Speaker 8 (07:59):
Claims from a paper call the story I must tell
jingle Bells and the menstrel Repertoire, which track the origin
of the song all the way back to eighteen fifty seven. However,
the author of the paper insisted that she never said
jingle Bells was racist. Now she's added, I did not
(08:19):
write the article to make people upset. At no point
have I ever made a claim on what people should
or should not sing at Christmas.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So congratulations, joy Read, you officially ruined Christmas.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Oh my goodness. We need to do the full of
the week. We need the Grinch of the model. And
that goes to joy Read. I mean, I just that
is stunning to me. And I just sit there and
I think I can't imagine what it would be like
to go through life where every single thing you think
of goes through a victimization lens. I mean, that is
an exhausting way to live. Can we just not all
(08:53):
have a little fun with jingle bells? I mean, is
she's saying all Nordic people that have sleds and you know,
reindeer bells. Oh my goodness, that's just unfortunately so.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Christian, because Joy Reid said, so is jingle bells canceled?
Speaker 9 (09:05):
Well?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Listen joy read very rarely plays the race card. So
the fact that you didn't hear it's.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Really indicative of how how she's staying your case with touch,
vim and vigor. You know, we did this a couple
of years ago with baby It's Cold Out.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
How did you know?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Remember John Legend and Kelly Clarkson remade it a more
less problematic version.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Is anyone singing that? Let me play the more problematic version?
Because he didn't even know this. That's exactly where I
was going this next selection. You might remember it from
the movie Elf Zooey Dachanel. What a beautiful boy she
had so nice? Of course, the scene she's singing in
the shower and a buddy comes in and he starts
singing a duet with her. A little inappropriate, okay, but
(09:46):
the songs maybe a little inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Here's a sample of those lyrics and yeah, okay, neighbors mine.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
What to me?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And what's break the spell?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Take your.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
Say no, man, least I'm gonna say that.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I trust my.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Pride really can't stay.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So reinbone there with Zoey Channel and the premise of
the song, of course, is he's plying her with alcohol,
trying to get her to stay on a cold winter's night.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's just too cold out there, Deborah? Is the song offensive?
Speaker 10 (10:46):
You know?
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Here's the thing. It depends on who's singing it in
a way. But indeed Martin sings it, you pretty much
know you slip something into that cotel. He's got a
different ways of it. You have what I love. There's
a version of a g and Missy Robertson who's seing
this of the Duck Dynasty, and at the end they
laugh and they go, where.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Are you going?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
We're married and it's actually very cute.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
I think we need to get back to the day
where women can actually take care of themselves. They can
actually say no. She's kind of, you know, teasingly teasing
back with yeah yeah. And it all depends on how
you look at this. I mean, you know, living in Hollywood.
As a young single woman, I had to learn how
to say no a lot, and I'm able to do that,
by the way, so I think it's you know, just
(11:31):
don't take it too seriously, Christian.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I want to go back to something you said. You
mentioned I had forgotten this, so thanks for bringing it
back up. Was John Legend Kelly Clarkson that, saying, like
a cleaned up version of it. You know where I'm
going with this now. I used to be of the
mind like the one team that I thought, okay, you
change the name as the Washington Redskins. The way I
feel about it now though it's gone so far the
other way. No longer the Cleveland Indians. What's wrong with Indians?
(11:54):
They're the Guardians. Now this sort of song it makes
me repelled the other way. Now, you know what I'm
digging in. I want the Washington Redskins back, and I
want Baby It's Cold Outside in its original form.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
And by the way, the scene from Elf that you're
referring to is so perfect. He's so innocent. He doesn't
realize it's inappropriate to be in the bathroom with her.
He doesn't even realize the song itself because he's a
babe in the woods. He just doesn't get it. It's
such a beautiful exploration of who he is at his core.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
And also, you know what's in this drink?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, he made a drink that's maybe a little stiffer
than an average because he wants there to be a
nice mood. Is that vicious and cruel? Maybe a little bit?
It's also human, it's way people interact. And when are
songs supposed to be role models for the way we
live our lives? Right?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I mean, I just it's so maddening.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
You know, we saw that a couple of years ago
when people are complaining about Animal House because you know,
John Belushi was peering at the women changing clothes. Tom Yeah,
because he's playing John Belushi's character and he's a Jersey.
He's a bad dude. We laugh at him because he's
doing these crazy things. He is not a role model.
(13:08):
This whole I mean, I'm thankfully it's fading, and thankfully
the whole Christmas I hope is fading too.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
It's just such nonsense. It's just so exhausting, exhausting.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
And by the way, if you don't like it, don't
listen to it. Triggers something for you. If you think
it's getting back to you, there can be a flirtatious
repartee going on. I really feel for men in the
dating world right now. What how are you even allowed
to you know, flirt or is that you know not allowed?
So I agree with you. I'm like, turn it off
if you don't.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Like it, turn it up if you want to send
a message, babyde that right there when you're at the
next intersection, at a red light, right side of Hollywood.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
At your window.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
It's cold out here.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Even years after her death, the wisdom of Joan Rivers
rings on.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
She was noted for making a.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Comment less than flattering about Michelle Oh might remember that
one if Joan Rivers were still alive the day and
I really wish that she were.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I have a feeling, you two, that she'd be one
of us.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
And here's another example of that, going back to twenty twelve,
talking about Donald Trump after she had appeared on Celebrity Apprentice,
Jennifer B wants to know on Twitter, how do you
really feel about Donald Trump?
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I adore job. Do you know smart? No one gives
some credit.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
I did Celebrity Apprentice.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
I thought, oh, Donald.
Speaker 10 (14:31):
And then you go and you're doing Celebrity Apprentice and
you realize this is so smart, so professional. I think
he's terrific. I think he would have made a great
president really because he's a businessman. He would have walked
and say, okay, what do we have to do? All right,
you do this, we'll do this. Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
He's smart to grow up those twenty twelve Debra. I
don't think we appreciated Joan Rivers enough when she was
still around. I believe a lot of people suggested, and
I don't see it's been refuted that the marvelous Ms
Maisel is based not so loosely on her as the
revolutionary female comedian that she was, and look at her
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the premonition Donald Trump would have made a great president.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
And by the way, back then, most Democrats would have
said the same thing. It was just simply when he
came out and they began to realize he had constitutional
principles about limited government and you know, standing up for
the blue collar hard worker in America. There was a
period where everybody said that, everybody thought he was great,
and then we became hyperpartisan and if you didn't toe
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the extreme, you know, a line that was approved by
the masses. Then you were out of you know, favor,
and that's kind of what happened. But yeah, I think
it would have been fun to have her in this
room with us right now.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I think both her and George Carlin, they died several
years ago, it would been fascinating to ride out cancel culture,
the woke mob, all that nonsense with those two. Fascinating.
And I think that car would be drifting to the
right a bit, to a certain.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Extent, like a Bill Maher.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, I think keep you very it.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, I don't think he'd be you know, maga, and
I don't even want him to be maga, but I
think he'd be really standing up for his principles and
we need, we needed those voices who are very few of.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Them in the last few years.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, John Rivers would pass away within two years of
that video and the sound from which you heard. But
she harkens back to a different era where she had
no filter. That's what made her funny. Yes, I was
just watching some highlights of a roast of Red Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You know, they would do those on the regular.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And everything was a racial joke here there everybody's laughing,
everybody's having a good time.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Total.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Are we coming back to that?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Because I know you and I went to see Jamie
Lisso last weekend and he had sold out the late
Saturday show and you could just tell, I think, but
the audience responds to him. There's a craving, there's a
hunger for people that are not going to just play
by the rules and only punch up and never punch down.
And I just think that momentum, we can feel it.
It's palpable.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
It's on the way, if not here already, listen.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
There and some roasts that have been done Tom Brady
Roast in particular, I think comedians and Jealous, and there
are the nap Arcatsis and the Jim Gaffigans are still
selling strong. There's always a place for clear comedy. It's great,
But there's been this kill Tony, this Whole, Joe Rogan,
this old Andrew Schultz, Tim Dillon, Ryan Long, these rebel
comedians not playing by the rules, making it big on podcasting,
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making it big on stage, you know, entering the mainstream
with Netflix, they give Shane Gillis has showed tires. So
I think it's one of the reasons why comedy is
having a resurgence and also maybe conversely, why Late in
ITV is dying.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
This is the opposite of that.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It's safe, it's predictable, it's boring, it's not funny.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Final word, there were floor.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
I absolutely think there's a shift here. And what's great
is we get to be the new rebels with the cause.
I mean, there was a documentary made Raging Bulls at
Easy Riders and Raging Bulls about the films of that
era and how they were the rebels showing something different
now takes is people with courage that are standing up,
being funny, just going for it. And I think there
is a hunger for that, because that's what art does best.
(18:03):
Just call it out and let the chips fall where
they may. And I think it is shifting back again.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
A special announcement regarding Right Side of Hollywood with Deborah
Flora and Christian Total. We will keep this going as
I make my move to the mornings. I announced that
this morning a little bit earlier on and we're going
to keep doing it nine a m. On Fridays for
that hour. These two will be in along with me.
It'll just be a little bit earlier we'll get you
in near weekend a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
We take great pride in doing that.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I want to thank Deborah and Christian for staying along
with the ride as we head into calendar year twenty
twenty six. Stick and state you don't want to go anywhere.
It's everybody's favorite segment. Are full of the week. These
two have narrowed it to four. We'll get to those
and we come back after this.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Swell scene.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
Not a secretary of you and the gentleman from c
T n CTC reference the unfortunate accident that occurred with
the National guardsmen and killed.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Do you think that was an unfortunate accident?
Speaker 9 (19:47):
I mean, is a terrible Wait wait, look, I'll get
it straight.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Then you can.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Shot our National guardsman in the head?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Look?
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Ms Sam, will you direct the witness to allow mean
to ask my question?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Okay, I don't know what I'm more offended by Representative
Benny Thompson, Democrat Missississippi saying that the shooting of a
National Guard troop member in the head, a female who
died and another one who I believe is still critically wounded,
was an accident or Christian The fact that he said
can I ax a question? Can we not with that
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going forward? Can we leave that in the nineties maybe
where it belongs.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I'm speech toless on two fronts, but I mean an accident.
I mean, once you were alerted to the fact that
you said accident, you should immediately say, oh gosh, I'm
so sorry.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Obviously it was a attack of murderer. Can let you
know and he couldn't do it?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Not? Right? Then? Right?
Speaker 6 (20:39):
It's right?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Then?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I don't know what's happened to our culture.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
We can all disagree on politics, we can all fight
dirty in politics, we can all have sharp elbows, but
we can't even all agree on basic decency. It really
is shocking, and he's sing it across the culture right now.
And that's a perfect example. Why does he wanted to
defend or minimize that act? Why would he Why would that.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Be the impulse? I don't know, because there's a reason
for it. There has to be, right, not an accident
he said, accident.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yes, not even close to an accident. Deborah.
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Yeah, even if it's unfiltered what he's actually thinking, it
has come out and he externally processed it. I mean,
the fact is and then he goes after that, he
gets on Christy Nom's case for questioning with real righteous
indignation that he would call it an accident when Sarah Beckstrom,
twenty years old, serving our country was murdered ambush style.
(21:31):
But what does he say after Christy Noom calls him
on that. He goes, just just hold on, I'll get
it straight. Well, why did you get it straight from
the beginning? Did you not think about this? Were you're
not outraged with every other American that this beautiful young
woman serving our country was murdered brutally. I mean, it's
it's inexcusable.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
It was a pretty big story. I think you heard it.
You know, how did you miss the details?
Speaker 6 (21:53):
And if you did it, you shouldn't be serving in
the United States Congress for good?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Wasn't he a share of the January sixth Committee?
Speaker 6 (22:02):
I will not be surprised.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I remember Thomas Massey kind of calling him out on
details regarding the pipe bomber outside of the DNC the
RNC on the night before the attack.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
And he's.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
And by the way, Thompson is a top Democrat on
the House Homeland Security Committee. He's the top Democrat Democrats.
I'm sorry if you're listening, can you look at who's
leading your party and not make a different decision If.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He's the top one, I'd hate to see who The
last one on was, Representative Benny Thompson calling the National
Guard shooting an accident just.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
A whoopsie oops.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Our next nominee comes from the State Legislature of Kentucky
Democrat Representative Sarah Stalker.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Great last name to start, but let's see where she
goes with this.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 11 (22:49):
I don't feel good about being white every day for
a lot of reasons, because it's a point of privilege
that I get to move through the world in a
way that so many of my other colleagues and friends
and family members of the community don't get the privilege
to do.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Privilege.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
And I'm just a.
Speaker 11 (23:07):
Female, but just a woman, just a white woman. If
I was a white man, I would be functioning from
a point of even greater privilege.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, so there's a privileged meter here, Debrah. Yes, of course,
Chris and I as.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
White dudes, way more privilege. You a lot of privilege,
but not quite as much as us.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
Yeah, And I'm a bone to pick with you two
over that No, I'm this whole thing of intersectionality. I'm
offended because I'm a white woman. And by the way,
those are two immutable characteristics. I should neither feel good
nor bad. I should just deal with reality and the
fact that they don't. I'm like, this is the worst
virtue signaling that I have heard in a while. I mean, really,
(23:47):
just stop and just say, you know what, what we
will fight for is equal opportunity, so everyone gets a chance,
not equity, not intersectionality.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
You know what.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
This is why I get so involved in pres especially.
No child should be made to feel guilty about their
immutable characteristic for having less melanin in their skin. It's hogwash,
you know.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
By the way, Ryan, usually you have an intern feeding
me grapes because I'm white.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I know, and I didn't see the interns.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
The deepest apart, did you guys coffee?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
During she should thank you should? Oh boy?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
This is that she should resign tomorrow and make sure
that her seat is taken by a person of color. Nice,
absolutely zero. And they never ever ever do it it.
They never live up to their principles. It's like and
if you do a land acknowledgement, they move out of
the place and get it give it to someone else.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Great mind, because I was just going to say the
land acknowledgement, like, oh, we stole this land, Well didn't
give it back. If you don't want it anymore, go
ahead and give it back. That state Representative State of
can Tucky Representative State of Mind. Sarah Stalker our second nominee.
We have narrowed it from ten to four. This is
the third. I think she may be a nominate for
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like the eighth straight week. It's somewhere in that realm
though I believe that's accurate mathematically. The representative Jasmine, She's
no Davy Rockets.
Speaker 12 (25:12):
Just this past week I saw I don't remember which celebrity,
but it was actually a celebrity, and I was like,
I don't know that that's not necessarily a bad idea,
but I'd have to think through it a lot. One
of the things that they proposed is black folk not
have to pay taxes for a certain amount of time,
because then again that puts money back in your pocket.
But at the same time, the.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Same time, it may not be as.
Speaker 12 (25:32):
Objectionable to some people about actually giving out dollars, but
obviously then you start dealing with the different tax brackets
and things like that. That's one of the reasons that
you know, we argue that reparations makes sense because so
many black folk. Not only do you owe for the
labor that was stolen and killed and all the other things, right,
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but the fact is, like we end up being.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
So far behind.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Okay, I'll start with this, all American slaves were so
called black fee, not all black folk in twenty twenty
five America descended from slaves.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
So that's one point.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
The other part, black folk, We're gonna put you all
in one silo.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
There are all kinds of different people within whatever she
considers to be black folk, including those that might be.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
A percentage black, a percentage white.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Do we give reparations just for the percentage of.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Black and individuals and then the percentage of white within
that person has to pay the same person that percentage
back in reparations.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Christian, please break down the math for us.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
The dumb it hurts. It just hurts all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I miss the calm, cool, reassuring Kamala Harris because she
sounds like she sounds like the rocket sign is compared
to Jasmine. Jasmine Crockett is an absolute dunderhead. I just
don't understand we live in a world where Jasmine Crockett
exists and late night TV and cettered in net life
won't touch her.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
That.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I can't even.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Get wrap my brain around that they don't go near her.
They don't go near her never. It's just ridiculous. And
the fact that she's a senatorial candidate is even sweeter.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
No tax on blacks, I like it a rhymes oh
well there you go.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Okay, you can wear that T shirt. But I watch
so here's the thing, because it's racist. I mean, that's
just anything you break down by sheer race is racist.
And when she says that that their labor was stolen,
she's talking about you know, back in the slavery days
well over. You know, however many you know, decades ago.
That was one hundred and sixty years ago. Thank you,
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Her labor wasn't stolen her. You know, she was not enslaved.
And if we go down that pathway, it is totally nonsensical.
It's absolutely nonsensical. You know, you brought up the okay,
if you're part white, part black, if you're biracial, what
does that mean It's like the student who was told
to denounce his whiteness and he is his mother is black.
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I mean, where do you end with this? And honestly,
America is based on individuality. Let's just get back to
you're an individual who, by the way, got elected to Congress.
You were not held down very much.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
By the way, she's not suffering to us. By the way,
kudos for supporting tax cuts.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
I like that.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Yeah for everybody. Thank you so.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Representative Jasmine Crockett nominee number three out of four. And
if our next nominee doesn't win Full of the Week,
she might be the most miserable person on the planet.
Every clip of this woman I've seen. She's nasty, she's hateful,
she's upset, she's angry. I've never seen this woman smile,
and probably that's a good thing. Is Wow, has she
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had a lot of work done?
Speaker 13 (28:31):
Anyway, she's abundantly aware of when you talk about women
and poverty, that black and brown women stick off the
charts more so than white women. This is an intentional
attack on poor women, and this is a dehumanization, all
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done in the name of her Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
which is the exact opposite of what the central character
of the faith of Christianity preached against. So this is
intentional weaponization of her gender and her faith.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
And this she is a grifter.
Speaker 13 (29:08):
And just look at the costume changes. Look at the
costume changes, look at the affect and how she does that.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It's wild.
Speaker 13 (29:15):
This woman, she'd be kicked to the curb. She is
an absolute grifter, just like Donald Trump and just like
her unrepentant, racist, homophobic husband was what wow wow, Well.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
As before he was assassinated.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Erica Kirk, by the way, that is yes, I had it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Podcast host Jennifer Welch talking about Erica Kirk being a
grifter that goes on to disparage her assassinated husband, Deborah,
it doesn't get much worse than this.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
No, and I say this, and I don't mean it
flippantly when I think about people like this, Honestly, there
is sewing and reaping and what she has inside in
her heart right now has got to be so hard
to live with to say these things. First of all,
if she wants to talk about Erica's Kirk's faith, she's
probably around the saying club that criticized her for forgiving
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the assassin. That is a hallmark of her face. Second,
if she actually wants to, as a quote unquote feminist,
look at where there is a need, how about she
turn and look at what's happening in so many of
the Middle Eastern countries where women are getting stoned because
they're burka slips. I mean. And then the final thing is,
if you're a feminist long ago, the whole thing was
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you don't talk about or judge a woman by her clothes,
how she presents herself, and she goes for this loath
thing of her clothing. I'm just like, the common decency
is completely void here. It is so sad to me.
And one thing I am very happy about Erica Kirk.
I was reading an article she said she turns off
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all social media. She doesn't have any on her phone anymore,
and when something needs to get posted, somebody else does it.
Because to live in a time or people like this
do such horrible things. When the world saw your husband
assassinating I'm glad she's protected from this kind of vitriol.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Jennifer Welch, you think she's happy, How does she sleep
at night?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I mean, they have this rage and hate in your
heart is really displic a cancer. She can be who
she is, but I imagine she's got a following. I
imagine there are people listening. I imagine her profile is rising.
I think there was at least one sort of quasi
maybe sympathetic portraits of her in the media recently, which
is just despicable. We'll just sleep again this weird time.
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It's hers, Canice Owens or others. It's on the left,
is on the right. It's just bad people. And I
guess they want to fame the clicks so much they're
willing to say these awful things.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I mean, my gosh, what kind of I mean? I
almost feel I just feel sorry for her.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
She just must be a just a misery and absolute misery.
I hope the money helps, I hope, and maybe buying
an extra car, whatever she gets from doing this.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
What a despicable human beings.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Those are our four nominees, Deborah and Christian will think
during the break and vote. You can send your votes
along at five seven, seven, three nine. As well. Representative
Benny Thompson wants to ask you a question about the
accidental National Guard shooting. Kentucky State Representative Sarah Stalker doesn't
feel good about being white, every day Representative Jasmine Crockett
wants to in taxes on black people and maybe reparations too.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And Jennifer Welch, she's just terrible.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
She calls Erica Kirka grifter and disparages the memory of
Erica's dead, deceased, assassinated husband. A break, and we're back
wrapping up the right side of Hollywood after this?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Which fool do we believe in?
Speaker 11 (32:38):
Though?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Let's go to our votes from the panels Total. I'll
start with you, which of the four people that are
just tuning in our nominees Representative Benny Thompson, Democrat Mississippi,
Kentucky State Reps. Sarah Stalker, also Democrat, obviously, Representative Jasmin Crockett, Democrat,
Texas and Jennifer Welch.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I've had a podcast host go total.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You know, I like the fact that demaj is hitting
streak in baseball. The fifty six games will never be beaten.
But I think the croct could beat his record in
being a fool of the every week for fifty six
plus weeks.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I think she has an inner. She's my choice.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Okay, Oh well, there you go. Well, I'm sorry going
to break that record and winning streak, I got to
go with Jennifer Welch. That much hatred and vitriol saying
that Erica Kirk should be kicked to the curb is
just it's the worst. It's the worst of human nature,
and I need to call it. It's not even fullish,
it's just reprehensible.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Christian, can you tell the good people what to expect
at Hollywood intoto dot com while we have a moment.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Sure, I've got a new short on Hollywood Segment, which
is my little under a minute gaggle of headlines, a
little bit of snark, a little bit of politics, a
little bit silliness. Also, I just did an interview with
the producer of a new film called merv It's a
romantic comedy about a couple they're breaking up and their
dog has the sads. They have a great conversation about that,
and I asked him a burning question that will he
ever own a dog, especially after doing this movie? And
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his answer was hysterical and very political in a way.
He was Bobby Belaving, But I thought it was very funny.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Take.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Even dogs are political. Now everything's political, boy, at least
a dog.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I'll never win Full of the Week for us. I
don't think so.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Anyway, some texts along these lines five seven, seven, three
nine cent your votes and they count to I mean
they all get the participation trophy.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Lol, Jack, well played, there we go, well.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Done, and then a run on Jennifer Welch too ugly
not to win this nomination.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Ugly as a person.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I'm talking about her physical appearance, although she has had
a lot of work done.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'm just saying she's had a lot of work done.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Jennifer Welch has my vote, says this texter, and this
one says I vote for Jennifer Welch.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Deborah. Any travel plans coming up? I know you're all
over the map.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Oh no, I'm so grateful the holidays. I am home,
hope for the holidays. I put my suitcase away, and
our son's coming back home from college. Our family will
be here. I'm going to have a wonderful jingle Bell Christmas,
because I don't think that is a racist song.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Gonna play it more now.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
And then finally, this texter, what did you say you're
moving to the mornings. I'm sure you'll be happy with that,
but I will miss you at this hour. I don't
listen until the afternoons, but congratulations. The good news is
you can catch us on the podcast. Subscribe, download, listen,
listen at your leisure, and you can still follow all
of us, including Debora, Flora, Christian Toto on the right
side of Hollywood, always grateful for their time.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Today and each week.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
We'll have one more installment in our regularly scheduled program
coming up next week, and then after the first of
the year, it'll be Fridays at nine am, sending you
into your weekend. Yes, you can drink Margarita's after.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Work done Deborah o'clock. It's five o'clock somewhere. Time out
back with more after this