July 28, 2025 • 37 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of the show, Ryan Schuiling reacts to the shocking news about University of Colorado's head football coach, Deion Sanders, and his health.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get started.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Let's kind of get them, just walk them through. Can
we do it that?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
With you up here, we walk you to let's go love.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
So, as you guys know, Coach has his other health issues,
his vascular stuff. So every year Coach goes for a
CT scan of his vascular pattern to make sure, you know,
the blood clots are away. So with this scan, everything
turned out really great from the vascular side.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
About two weeks later, we.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Get a text from his primary care doctor that.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Said, I need to talk to you and Coach. We
need to.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Refer you guys to a neurologist. So about three days
later we go see a eurologists. They go in for
a quick procedure. The neurologists told us, hey, within ten minutes,
I can tell you guys if he's going to need
another procedure or if we just need to do these
follow up appointments. And the doctor told us, Okay, you
guys are going to need another procedure. I'm going to
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refer you to my college doctor Cupasia. But at this
point you have a bladder tumor and from.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There we'll go get it removed.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
And then doctor Croucasia it was go ahead.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, So we proceeded with removal of the bladder tumor.
It showed a very aggressive Hi.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Because you guys gave me options, scared me to day.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, we'll get there, I'll get there. Okay. We removed
the tumor.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
It was very high grade and dading through the bladder wall,
not into the muscle layer, something we call very high
risk non musclim based of bladder cancer.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So we did discuss options. We discussed some.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Options of treatment in the bladder, and we discussed bladder
removal as well. Given his commitments to his family and
to the team, elected to undergo a bladder removal. We
performed a full robot assist at labaroscopic bladder removal and
creation of a new bladder. And I am pleased to
report that the results from the surgery are that he
is cured from the cancer.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Is okay that.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
From earlier today a press conference held by head coach
Dean Sanders, coach prime of CU Buff's football, and there
had been a lot of speculation as to where he
was and why he had been absent, and whether he's
going to retire because his kids are out of school
now and he does have this other health issue that
we know about. I think it's a vascular issue. He's
had to have a couple of toes removed. I mean,
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this poor guy, He's had some really rotten luck from
a health standpoint for a guy that at one time
was one of our premier all time athletes, a Major
League Baseball player, along with being an NFL star at
the cornerback position for both the Atlanta Falcons and then
going on with the Dallas Cowboys and the San Francisco
forty nine Ers, and coach Prime's become a very big
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part of this community Colorado statewide, certainly in Boulder within itself,
and as a head coach that's drawn a lot of
notoriety in a good way to Boulder's campus. You see
applications and enrollments up across the board for CEEU, and
a lot of that has to do with the football
programs success and also in just bolstering what SEU is
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all about. And Zach Seegers is running the board for me,
he is our go to guy when it comes to
sports matters. He's constantly got his finger on the pulse
of what's going on with ESPN and then again here locally,
so Zach. You know, these rumors that he was going
to retire or step aside obviously thwarted that was running
rampant online. You know, I gotta be careful with the
fake news. But your reaction to the announcement as you
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heard it today, I.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Mean, I'm glad he's doing okay, but I do think
even if he's returning for this season, it does you
have to wonder how long is he going to keep
doing this. You know, he's had toes removed, he's had
a vascular problems as they mentioned before, and now bladder
cancer where he's having his pull.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Bladder at least a large part of his bladder removed.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
It's pretty serious stuff and I wish him the best.
I hope he has nothing but a clean but bill
health from here on out. But he's older guy, and
you know, maybe he only has one or two more
years left doing this, even despite the contract extension of the
university just gave him. So I think another reminder for
CU fans, like, enjoy this fun ride while it's here.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Great point that Zach makes and you can send your
text along at five seven, seven three nine.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It's Kelly over there. Do I see her.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Okay, Kelly, your reactions in the news on coach Prime
surviving bladder cancer. Will get into some more of those
audio cuts in just a moment. But he basically had
to have his bladder removed entirely and then rebuilt, replaced
with an artificial version of that, and it's going to
be affecting him obviously for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But he's cancer free.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Yeah, Obviously, my thoughts go out to his family, and
this is a very, very tough thing. My friend John,
who we've talked about many times, he died of well,
he originally had stomach cancer and then it metastasized his
blood to his bladder, which then metastasized to his liver
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and his blood. So he really did not have a
good go about it. After you know, he was almost
three years and you know they say five years is
the is kind of the magic number. He made it
three and then it just metastasized all over the place
and he went pretty downhill from there. So hopefully this
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surgery bodes well for Coach Sanders because he has been,
like you said, he's been a really like staunch person
in the entire CU community. He really has transformed that
entire school.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So I'd like.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
To see him to stay just as Zach said, and
you know, just my thoughts go out to him.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Well, he mentions the power of early detection. Right here,
he goes down two paths, and one is get checked
out yourselves. He has put himself front and center when
that's not easy to do. One your personal health history,
and a lot of people want to keep that private,
myself included. Unless you know where Dion Sanders is coming from.
(06:08):
He knows that he's a public figure. He knows that
he is a person of influence not only throughout college
football but in the community, as Kelly just mentioned, and
he is choosing to use his platform to help build
awareness for this. And I think it's fantastic. And this
is what he had to say. This could have gone
one of two very different ways.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But please get yourself checked out, especially African American men.
We don't like going to the doctors. We don't like
nothing to do with a doctor. You know that.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
So I'm not just talking to the brothers.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I'm talking to my Caucasian brothers, my Hispanic brothers, my
Asian brothers, not everybody, and my sister. And it's all
y'all get checked out, because it could have been a
whole another gathering if I had. I'm thankful. It's been
a tremendous journey. It's been tough. I think I dropped
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twenty five pounds. I was like a Landa Valcon prime
at one point.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
No, and then he had to kind of keep this
close to the vest. He didn't want it to become
a distraction. He knew about this a couple of months ago,
and of course, a couple of months ago the NFL
Draft happened, and both of his sons were participating in
that as potential draftees.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
And this is how he chose to handle it on
draft day.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It wasn't just that, it was just I knew as.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Well I had a sarder coming up.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
My sons to this day don't know what transparent. I
just told him to something, move my foot again, because
I wanted them to focus on making the team, I mean,
not focused on Dad.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
And he gets into the physical limitations, I mean a
major procedure like this, the removal of one's bladder. You know,
science and medicine has come a long way here in
twenty twenty five to where it used to be and
his prognosis hopefully is a clean bill of health. They've
been able to remove all of the cancer. And comparing this,
like you said, the early detection to the unfortunate story
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that Kelly shares about her friend John, was you know
that went from stomach cancer, which in and of itself isolated,
You're early detected. That is a treatable and in fact,
I think, in many ways, a curable form of cancer.
You always got to keep an eye out whenever you
get a cancer diagnosis. From that point forward, it can recur,
and it can spread, and it can spread to other
organs that are a lot more difficult to treat, like
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the gallbladder, like the pancreas, like the liver, and once
it spreads to those particular organs, it's a really rough
road from there. And here are the again, the physical
limitations that Prime was very open and honest about.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And I think this is good.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
This serves again as a public service for those about
that are out there maybe fighting the same battle.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That it's a whole life change. Like I can't then
I'm gonna be transparent. I can't pete like I used
to pee us. It is totally different and uh, she
not only is a blessing, but she provided other persons
that have gone through what I've gone through, so that
I could talk to them and get some solace in
understand like what I'm facing not just from a doctor,
(09:08):
but from another individual. And I have to have the
toe like it's a totally different life. I mean, thank God,
I'm now I depend on depend you know, you know
what I mean. I truly depend on depend Like I
cannot control my bladder, so I get up to go
to the bathroom already four or five times a night.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Well, that's not good for a sleep pattern, especially I
head football coach of a college program that you're running on.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Very little sleep.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
As it is, you get up, you can watch film,
and you organize practice, and then you go deep in
the latest of the day, two days, et cetera. Especially
coming up right now, he's coming up on his fifty
eighth birthday. Like it acts like he's getting older. He's
eight years older than I am. But I get it.
I mean, you should reach a certain age in your
mid life and things aren't working the way they used to.
(09:58):
And now he jokes about having the same problems that
his grandson does.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But then I'm sitting up there waking up. You know,
like now, grandson, we're in the same thing. We got
the same problem right now, we're going through the same trials,
trim relations. We kind of see who has the heaviest
bag at the end of the night. Like this. It's ridiculous,
but I'm making a joke out of it, but it's real,
Like it is real. It is real.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It is real.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So if you see poor the party on the sideline,
it's real. Okay, I'm just telling you right now, you're
gonna see it. You're gonna see the practice. You're gonna
see one because it is unbelievable, Like dozing off and
waking up. My first thing, I'm grabbing my crops to
see if if if I feed on myself.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And it's just totally different.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And I know it's a lot of people out there
going through what I'm going through and dealing with what
I'm dealing with, and let's stop being ashamed of it,
and let's deal with it, and let's deal.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
With a hit on What an inspiration?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I mean, this guy is full of humility and grace
and we'll get into this in hour number two. He's
a man of God, and he's not afraid to talk
about it, and I think that bolsters a lot of
what's deep inside of him when it comes from a
strength and spirituality standpoint. I know our good friend Heidi
Ganall posted out well wishes for Dion Sanders, saying that
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she was praying for him. We are praying for her too, Heidi.
It's been publicly announced, and I wanted to keep this
quiet for as long as she wanted to, but she's
been talking about it, much like Deon Sanders publicly her
battle with breast cancer. And so I replied to her
post on X with exactly that, and to keep her
and to keep Dion Sanders in your prayers and in
your thoughts and good vibes sent their way.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Every little bit helps. It certainly ends up.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
And you also have Tom Martine, who is part of
the three percent that actually survived pancreatic cancer. Incredible, incredible
and had a very difficult, amazing procedure I that saved
his life and made him cancer free. But you know,
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also he lost a good portion of his stomach, his
entire gallbladder, most of is pancreas, and it was it's
still a longer recovery so you know, we're all surrounded
by this, whether it's Heidi or Dion or Tom or
these people.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You know, there are all of our friends, there are
co workers.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
We want them to be healthy and happy and all
of that. So yeah, just keep good thoughts out.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Five seven, seven, three nine, Ryan, can we all now
call him Peon Sanders? Come on, well, you are really
going to go there. It's like the fourth grade, you know.
And also it does a totally different mean. If anybody
is not a peon, you know, one of the pleabs, Plebeians, plebeans,
howe you say that word is not Neon Sanders. This
guy is a mover and a shaker and a true
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leader of men and just a leader in general. And
we'll get into again his belief in God a little
bit later on Ryan. Seven, this is your birth year
unless he's about to turn fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Haven't googled it?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Well no, no, no, no, no, Deanna, and I his
birthday's coming up, like I said, and it is August ninth,
nineteen sixty seven. And yeah, he's seven years older, so
he's going to be fifty eight. I'm going to be
fifty one in September.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
There are dueling narratives out here, and we've known about
this for some time. There are the deals that he's making,
including another one today with the European Union, and he
is truly executing the art of the deal. But the
Epstein story won't go away. Why of course, the mainstream
media is not going to let that up. They're not
going to let him just savor the flavor of these
winds and all of his supporters to rally around him
and all the polls to go.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Northward in skyward.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
So Trump really opened up about this topic the day
in a way that I had not heard before. Jeffrey Epstein,
can you sell that book to that?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
What caused the breach?
Speaker 8 (13:55):
That's such old history, very easy to explain, but I
don't want to waste your time by explaining it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But for years I wouldn't talk to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
I wouldn't talk because he did something that was inappropriate.
He hired help, and I said, don't ever do that again.
He sold people that work for me. I said, don't
ever do that again. He did it again, and I
threw him out of the place for sna On Grada.
I threw him out and that was it. I'm glad
I did, if.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You want another truth.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
And by the way, I never went to the island,
and Bill Cletton went there supposedly.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Twenty eight times.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Interesting details there, because what he alleges Trump is that
Jeffrey Epstein was poaching Trump employees that Trump got pissed
off about it, said don't do that, and then Epstein
did it again, and that was it. Now, the other
story we've gotten that Epstein was banned from our alago
surrounds Epstein being inappropriate. I think it was with the
fourteen year old daughter of one of Trump's friends, and
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it might have been at the club. And that was
the other track on this that I thought had contributed
to Trump finally just cutting all ties to Epstein. But
this story would appear to maybe even predate that. So
an interesting nugget nevertheless, And here's Ursula vonderlyon the EU
president on the power of Trump the deal maker.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
I want to thank President Trump personally for his personal
commitment and leadership to achieve this breakthrough. He's a tough negotiator,
but he is also a deal maker.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
And so what were the terms of this deal with
a fifteen percent tariff on all European goods and people
are questioning the tariffs, but many on the left are
starting to realize it is not taking the adverse effect
on the economy that many predicted it would. The economy,
in fact, is bouncing back stronger than ever because a
lot of people that are invested in the markets know
that this tariff approach was a cudgel. It was a
(15:55):
lever that Trump was pulling that was available at his
disposal to use as a negotiating tactic to make better
trade deals with Japan, with several other European nations all
over the globe, and now with the EU, and of
course at least Jordan, formerly of The Daily Beast, which
is a far left rag publication now of MSNBC, tries
(16:16):
to shift the conversation back to Jeffrey Epstein a really
big way.
Speaker 10 (16:21):
Well, yeah, because it at a moment when the EU
could have played with him a little bit, you know,
cat and mouse a little bit. They had more leverage
than you know, giving in this quickly and easily, I think.
But hey, I mean, Trump's got to soak up this
win because there aren't many more coming in the pipeline.
As long as this Epstein store continues to have legs.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Epstein the ghost he is haunting the president and speaking
of which that's our top story to night, Jeffrey Epstein controversy.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Who made that decision for that to be the lead?
That would be MSNBC. I wonder why they did that.
Is she really.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Suggesting, at least Jordan that the EU that Rustula Vonderland
should have played cat and mouse with the man who
wrote the.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Art of the deal. How is that going to work out?
How was that going to happen?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Steel trapped negotiations not buying that, not one bet? How
much more steam in the engine?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Kelly?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Do you think the Epstein story has because I think
when we get a quote like we got from Donald
Trump today, we need more of that. It'll clear the air,
it'll basically put this story behind him. But the more
that he obfuskates and tries to avoid talking about it,
the more it lingers. I just don't understand his approach
to this specific issue.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Yeah, it's a different one because this is all they have.
Like we saw before, they were all going out and
dropping f bombs and trying to use that tactic to
make themselves. I don't know they had this whole thing
about Okay, let's try to do something to get men
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to come back on our side.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Well, And to that point, hold on, Chris Matthews MSNBC.
He's not buying the negative polls on Trump. We've seen
the record low approval rating of the Democratic Party writ large.
Speaker 11 (18:06):
To be honest with you, the country is moving towards Trump.
I mean, these polls that come out and show him
not doing well, I don't buy that. I think strength,
his strength is still greater than the Democratic strength. He
is a stronger public figure than the Democratic people. I mean,
Obama still has tremendous charisma, but Trump has strengths, and
(18:29):
I think that's what.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
All the voters look for.
Speaker 11 (18:32):
But they wanted a president who is a strong figure,
and he's got it and he can. Yeah, it's just there,
and half the country buys it.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
That's what I think is his brute for strength alone.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
According to Chris Matthews Kelly in the quick half a
minute that we have left, is that enough to drive
Trump in the polls?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It sounds like Chris Matthews believes it is.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
I think there's a lot of people that actually believe that,
and I think you're going to see that. So let's
just let's see what happens with Epstein. You know, this
is what they have for now. They drop the F
bombs earlier, now they're dropping the E bombs with X.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Nice back one letter in the alphabet five seven seven
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about cancer, surviving and battling cancer.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And of course, many of you.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Know my mom died of esophagal cancer three years ago.
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Speaker 12 (21:14):
New video tonight of passengers evacuating a plane at DIA
because the plane's landing gear caught fire right before takeoff.
This Miami bound American Airlines flight deploying emergency slides here
directly onto the runway. Welcome to Dinner seven News at ten.
I'm Jackline Allen. We're learning new details tonight about what
happened and also hearing from one of the passengers on board.
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You can see a fire underneath the plane there as
passengers slide down the emergency slides.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
A few hours later, I.
Speaker 12 (21:41):
Spoke to the passenger who took this video, Nick Circus,
right before he took off on a replacement flight.
Speaker 10 (21:48):
When did you figure out if something wasn't right?
Speaker 13 (21:51):
So we were on a way to take off, and
I would say about ten seconds before the plane was
supposed they get a airborne re heard the loud boom.
Some people started pinnating in style, but I kind of
kept calming. The only problem was some people grabbed their
luggage despite the fact that they were told not to
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grab anything. And that's what kind of messed them when
they slide it out.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You can see that in the video.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
One person had to be taken to the hospital with
a minor injury, and the FAA says.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
It is investigating Jacqueline Allen Denver seven there and more
cause for concern coming out of Denver International Airport.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Kelly, what's going on there? Remember it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Within the last couple of months, they lost all eyes
in the sky, yes on the planes coming in for
a full five minutes.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
I cannot even tell you. I have no idea what's
going on, But how.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Scary is it? You fly more than I did? You do?
Speaker 7 (22:50):
So it's it is really really concerning. And I don't
know if this is left over from the Transportation Department
of Transportation that you know, upgrade their systems, or if
this has something to do with that.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Air traffic control.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
I mean we got we got doors blowing off of
you know, airplanes in the middle of the air last.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Airlines we cut. I mean, okay, there's a problem now, Zach.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
You flew recently right on your Caribbean vacation, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
To Jamaica. Wasn't Bahamas, Bahamas, That's right, Bahamas. Man, there
were a.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Couple of times coming into a landing or taking off
where I was like, oh man, please work, especially leaving
that small airport in the Bahamas down there, shake it
a little bit. I was like, oh man, please, yeah,
please take me off here.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Did you experience any difficulties at Denver No, I had
heard saling. Really I was just being a baby, all right,
fair enough. But there's more to this story too. There's
a couple of things details that have emerged. Why I
want to talk about it today and invite your inputs
as well. Five seven, seven, thirty nine that just stand
out to me is not kosher. And here's some of
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the quoting. This is from Lauren Pennington, also of Denverse seven.
A quote thirty twenty three is a boarding on the
runway fire on the left side. The American Airlines pilot
can be heard saying in an air traffic control recording
obtained by Denverse seven. Video shared by Denver seven of
the evacuation shows passengers sliding down the rubber slide, many
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holding their carry on bags and several struggling to balance
their luggage with their children. Okay, there's a point to
be made here on that, but there's also a residual
point on making a moment. So American Airlines officials stayed
in their Airlines safety briefing played at the beginning of
each flight, which I know a lot of us tune out,
and you're wearing your earbuds and you're not supposed to
be and you're supposed to be paying attention. And when
you sit in the exit rows, which I've done many times,
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they're asking you, are you willing and able to assist
in the event of.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You know, a water landing or any kind of emergency.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Any answer yes in the affirmative that you are willing
to do that, And it says, in the unlikely event
of an evacuation, leave all carryons behind and follow lights
quickly and safely to the nearest exit. The video, which
shows passengers violating those safety instructions, led to backlash online.
But that wasn't the only thing, you know. Yeah, it
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stands to reason if the plane is on fire, GT
to the FO anything you brought on that plane that's
not a human being or a pet is replaceable. If
you're a cosmetic bag, leave it, leave it, don't I
got no go. The other part of this, which you know,
(25:34):
as an oldest brother, as a guy that's looking out.
There was nobody standing at the bottom of this slide
trying to assist the elderly women and children. Was every
person for themselves, everyone for themselves, and you know they're
they're bouncing off the slide. They got their carry on
bags they shouldn't have had in the first place. Wasn't
(25:57):
there a man I'm saying this, yeah, traditional roles here,
but a young, well built man take in charge of
the situation, stepping up and go hey, I'm going to
help you out. Or alternatively, wasn't there any kind of
airline personnel that would have been designated to help in
that scenario? Why were we watching on this video, Kelly,
(26:21):
every individual doing their own thing, willy nilly, hither and yon.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It was really an amazing video.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
But to go to your point, have you ever sat
in an exit row where they come up to you
and they actually give you the spiel?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yes, say look that you listen to the show, but
there are.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Other things here. Okay, I just said that. Send me
a break anyway. So but to that point, this entire video,
they did everything wrong. I mean, there wasn't any personnel
looking out. There wasn't apparently any of the flight attendants
who were saying, no, leave your bag, leave your bag, Okay,
(27:01):
you can deal without your purse, you know, because I
mean I saw women literally had like having one kid
under their arm and their purse under the other.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's like, okay, you can get another leave. We talked here.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
As only Kelly can speak of it. There and the
brand names of the purse. And then finally here after
hearing a loud boom, the plane quote started to violently
shake and we were drifting to the left side of
the runway. Shay Armistead, a seventeen year old from Menturn, Colorado,
told the AP in an interview, So, there's a lot
that needs to come out I think from the investigation
(27:38):
of this incident, in which it needs to be handled
a bit more cleanly going forward, that there are again
people that are designated in the event of an emergency
that are designed to help those getting off the plane.
And if you don't want that to be a civilian,
that's one thing. But where is the instinct, the protective
(27:59):
instinct of any in visual on that plane to go
you know what, there may be some people that need
some help here instead of that see you later. I'm
gone and taking my carry on with me. Five seven
seven three nine. If you've had an incident at the
airport that was a cause for concern, like we're talking
about here and I'm talking about Denver specifically, send those
(28:19):
texts along at five seven seven three nine. We've got
a couple of textas I mentioned on breast cancer survivor
Gina in our listening audience. She now of Missouri, formerly here, Ryan,
I am a breast cancer survivor. Please pass on my
prayers to Heidi for a full and speedy recovery. We
need her voice in our fight for America. She's done
yeoman's work online and organizing the communication efforts, the messaging
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for our state Republican party, and that should not go
without being commented upon and helping out britt to Horn
our new chair and Richard Holdtorf now our new vice chairs.
That was decided a week ago today. This from John.
I'm glad you're talking about this today.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Ryan. My wife just buried her sister.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
She fought breast cancer almost six years and it finally
did her in. Let me say to you that her
husband is an oncologist, probably one of the best in
the state and maybe in North America, and he couldn't
save her life. I missed Dina every day. She had
the brightest smile. She worked with autistic kids in Fort Collins.
She was a saint. Yeah, that's tough, and I've been
(29:25):
through it personally, as has Kelly. Our parents, my mother,
her father, each dying of a esophageal cancer. That's one
of the worst ones you can get to. And I
hate it. And it happens in the news a lot
as we go to break here when it's reported so
and so lost their battle with cancer today, and they not.
If you've ever battled cancer, or if you have been
(29:46):
in the fight with a loved one who has battled cancer,
no one loses that fight. The fight ends, and perhaps
it doesn't end the way we want it to, as
was the case with my mom and Kelly's dad.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
But I would never say my mom will us that fight.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
She fought harder than I ever thought she could, and
I knew she was a tough woman, but she went
through all the treatments, she was had agency in her
own recovery, and she hit a high water mark there.
I would say in the summer of twenty twenty two,
where she was feeling a lot better, and she was
moving around, she was able to eat some things, she
was able to.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Enjoy those things that she used to enjoy.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
And then fortunately, a car accident totally unrelated to the
condition that she was in happened with a woman that
probably shouldn't have been driving and hit my mom as
she was pulling out of my sister's driveway and her
apartment there in Jackson, Michigan, and ended up as she
had a broken leg that limited her mobility. She couldn't
(30:43):
get up in a round and eventually the esophageal cancer
overtook her. Now I had some conversations with the attending nurse,
you know, as we put her in the hospice, and
she went pretty quickly after that, and I was beating
myself up, you know, as her oldest son. I'm like,
we've got to find a way. We got to be
able to determine and you know, some kind of path
to recovery. And I'm not going to give up.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
If you don't give up, I'm not going to give up.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
And it finally became too much, and you know, I
have a hard time with that. I don't accept losing
very easily, and especially when a life is on the line.
Of my mother, I'm going to fight to the end,
to the death literally in that case. But what the
nurse told me was, Ryan, look, you might get a
false sense of recovery with your mom. She started at
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stage three esophagill cancer and it gradually got worse, and
that the prognosis, even on a level playing field without
the car accident, is not very good. That the maximum
typically a person survives after being diagnosed with any stage
of esophagil cancer is about five years, and she made
it not quite one, and she was older. Obviously, there
(31:46):
are extenuating circumstances with regard to that was the condition
of the patient when the treatment starts, and what she
tried to assure me, and you know, it's still it
still bothers me regardless, is that no matter what we
had done, or no matter if there hadn't been a
car accident, that this was likely to degrade and her
condition was likely to decline over a set number of months,
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and that let's say take the car accident out, maybe
she lasts another few months or a half a year
or something like that. But she seemed to think that
with my mom's situation, that how quickly it kind of
came back with a vengeance in the wake of that
car accident, that that was what was going to be
the end of her and not anything having to do
with the car accident. So it was really tough, very
(32:32):
difficult pill to swallow. But that's why I go back
to nobody loses their fight with cancer. If you choose
to embark upon that fight and you put in the will,
and you go through the treatment, and you put your
faith in God the way that Dion Sanders had with
his bladder cancer that was announced today, then you're a winner.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You haven't lost, You've won. Take a break, we'll come back.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Wrap up with more of your text here in our
one of Ryan Shuling Life stopped on by and tuned in,
I was Zach Seegers, Kelly Cacher, and Ryan Shuling in
your text at five seven seven, three.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Nine, and I'm up this one. Ryan.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Normally, when you sit in the window emergency seat, they
ask you if you are fit enough and willing to
aid passengers off the plane if an emergency should arise.
So my question, then Texter to Zach, to Kelly to
all of you. Where were those people when this plane
was being evacuated on the tarmac at DA You I
(33:37):
don't want to say you swore an oath, but you
did answer in the affirmative that yes, you are willing
to help in the event.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Of an emergency.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
And I would think engine on fire or whatever was
going on there would qualify and constitute an emergency for
which you agreed to help, and you didn't.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Where were you? Shame on you? What happened? Five seven
seven three nine? Kelly? You still there? Is she over that?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
I can't see her. She's gone, Okay, bye, Kelly. I'm
so sad about this. Getting into a couple of things.
I'm going to set the table for hour number two.
Aaron Lee is going to join us coming up after
the top of the hour, and her case is advancing.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm not saying it's being taken.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Up by the Marine Corps, because I think I saw
some confusion out there on the reporting along those lines.
But she is the founder of Protect Kids Colorado. You
might be very familiar with her story if you haven't
seen Art Club. That is a documentary featuring her, her husband,
and her daughter who was indoctrinated into trans ideology under
the guys, under the ruse, under the premise of it
(34:44):
being an after school art club, it was anything but that.
It was subterfuge used to disguise what it really was.
And then the daughter, after a couple of hours at
this not art club that was an indoctrination, started questioning
her own gender identity. The seeds fruit of the poisonous
(35:06):
tree here were planted in her mind and caused more confusion.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
This is a dastardly deed.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
And so Aaron Lee has filed a suit against the
Pewter School District and it has been added for consideration
to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Of the United States docket.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
And we'll get that update from her coming up in
our number two.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
To start that conversation.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Also, we'll get into the spiritual side of Coach Prime
Deon Sanders if you're just tuning in. He was given
a diagnosis of bladder cancer and while that was serious,
it was caught early enough that there were surgical options
which will affect him for the rest of his life,
but that would get rid of the cancer with the
removal of said bladder, and that's what they did. And
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see you holding a press conference today to announce that.
But what was more fascinating to me is how Coach
Prime has chosen to handle this, that he would use
his platform, powerful as it is for him as a
high profile college football coach, to be perfectly transparent and
honest about what he's going through, and that can be
reassuring to people out there that don't have that platform
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but are going through much of the same. It might
have doubts, and they might have doubts regarding their faith
about being able to get through something like that, and
yet here's Coach Prime shining that bright light of hope,
of faith, of belief. And this I think is central
to a lot of people overcoming whether it's an issue
that's psychological or whether it's a physical malady. And Coach
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Prime has been dealt more than his fair share of those,
and yet he has not lost that unbridled enthusiasm and
optimism that there are brighter days ahead because he is
a man of God. And I think that's so important
for us to use that as an example, to observe
his example and to learn from that example. So he'll
be a point of conversation coming up in our one
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two as well well, And George Brockler joining us at
the bottom of hour number two. Amy Patten has suddenly
gone public and I find that timing quite interesting. The
DA of the eighteenth who was mum and quiet and
silent and hiding behind her subordinates and press releases when
it comes to the curious case of Solomon Gallaghan, suddenly
(37:20):
did two, not one, but two sit down interviews for
local television stations, both Denver seven and CBS four. And
now she's coming out of the woodwork to say, ah,
the state law about having a person being declared incompetent
to stay on trial and then bye bye. There you
go back into the public square as a sex offender
and somebody that potentially was going to kidnap and who
knows what with a young child, an elementary school student
(37:43):
on a playground. Have that conversation with gebrock coming up
as well. Our number two straight ahead
Let's get started.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Let's kind of get them, just walk them through. Can
we do it that?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
With you up here, we walk you to let's go love.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
So, as you guys know, Coach has his other health issues,
his vascular stuff. So every year Coach goes for a
CT scan of his vascular pattern to make sure, you know,
the blood clots are away. So with this scan, everything
turned out really great from the vascular side.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
About two weeks later, we.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Get a text from his primary care doctor that.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Said, I need to talk to you and Coach. We
need to.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Refer you guys to a neurologist. So about three days
later we go see a eurologists. They go in for
a quick procedure. The neurologists told us, hey, within ten minutes,
I can tell you guys if he's going to need
another procedure or if we just need to do these
follow up appointments. And the doctor told us, Okay, you
guys are going to need another procedure. I'm going to
(00:59):
refer you to my college doctor Cupasia. But at this
point you have a bladder tumor and from.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There we'll go get it removed.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
And then doctor Croucasia it was go ahead.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, So we proceeded with removal of the bladder tumor.
It showed a very aggressive Hi.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Because you guys gave me options, scared me to day.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, we'll get there, I'll get there. Okay. We removed
the tumor.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
It was very high grade and dading through the bladder wall,
not into the muscle layer, something we call very high
risk non musclim based of bladder cancer.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
So we did discuss options. We discussed some.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Options of treatment in the bladder, and we discussed bladder
removal as well. Given his commitments to his family and
to the team, elected to undergo a bladder removal. We
performed a full robot assist at labaroscopic bladder removal and
creation of a new bladder. And I am pleased to
report that the results from the surgery are that he
is cured from the cancer.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Is okay that.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
From earlier today a press conference held by head coach
Dean Sanders, coach prime of CU Buff's football, and there
had been a lot of speculation as to where he
was and why he had been absent, and whether he's
going to retire because his kids are out of school
now and he does have this other health issue that
we know about. I think it's a vascular issue. He's
had to have a couple of toes removed. I mean,
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this poor guy, He's had some really rotten luck from
a health standpoint for a guy that at one time
was one of our premier all time athletes, a Major
League Baseball player, along with being an NFL star at
the cornerback position for both the Atlanta Falcons and then
going on with the Dallas Cowboys and the San Francisco
forty nine Ers, and coach Prime's become a very big
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part of this community Colorado statewide, certainly in Boulder within itself,
and as a head coach that's drawn a lot of
notoriety in a good way to Boulder's campus. You see
applications and enrollments up across the board for CEEU, and
a lot of that has to do with the football
programs success and also in just bolstering what SEU is
(03:11):
all about. And Zach Seegers is running the board for me,
he is our go to guy when it comes to
sports matters. He's constantly got his finger on the pulse
of what's going on with ESPN and then again here locally,
so Zach. You know, these rumors that he was going
to retire or step aside obviously thwarted that was running
rampant online. You know, I gotta be careful with the
fake news. But your reaction to the announcement as you
(03:32):
heard it today, I.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Mean, I'm glad he's doing okay, but I do think
even if he's returning for this season, it does you
have to wonder how long is he going to keep
doing this. You know, he's had toes removed, he's had
a vascular problems as they mentioned before, and now bladder
cancer where he's having his pull.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Bladder at least a large part of his bladder removed.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
It's pretty serious stuff and I wish him the best.
I hope he has nothing but a clean but bill
health from here on out. But he's older guy, and
you know, maybe he only has one or two more
years left doing this, even despite the contract extension of the
university just gave him. So I think another reminder for
CU fans, like, enjoy this fun ride while it's here.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Great point that Zach makes and you can send your
text along at five seven, seven three nine.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
It's Kelly over there. Do I see her.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Okay, Kelly, your reactions in the news on coach Prime
surviving bladder cancer. Will get into some more of those
audio cuts in just a moment. But he basically had
to have his bladder removed entirely and then rebuilt, replaced
with an artificial version of that, and it's going to
be affecting him obviously for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But he's cancer free.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
Yeah, Obviously, my thoughts go out to his family, and
this is a very, very tough thing. My friend John,
who we've talked about many times, he died of well,
he originally had stomach cancer and then it metastasized his
blood to his bladder, which then metastasized to his liver
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and his blood. So he really did not have a
good go about it. After you know, he was almost
three years and you know they say five years is
the is kind of the magic number. He made it
three and then it just metastasized all over the place
and he went pretty downhill from there. So hopefully this
(05:22):
surgery bodes well for Coach Sanders because he has been,
like you said, he's been a really like staunch person
in the entire CU community. He really has transformed that
entire school.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So I'd like.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
To see him to stay just as Zach said, and
you know, just my thoughts go out to him.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Well, he mentions the power of early detection. Right here,
he goes down two paths, and one is get checked
out yourselves. He has put himself front and center when
that's not easy to do. One your personal health history,
and a lot of people want to keep that private,
myself included. Unless you know where Dion Sanders is coming from.
(06:08):
He knows that he's a public figure. He knows that
he is a person of influence not only throughout college
football but in the community, as Kelly just mentioned, and
he is choosing to use his platform to help build
awareness for this. And I think it's fantastic. And this
is what he had to say. This could have gone
one of two very different ways.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But please get yourself checked out, especially African American men.
We don't like going to the doctors. We don't like
nothing to do with a doctor. You know that.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
So I'm not just talking to the brothers.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I'm talking to my Caucasian brothers, my Hispanic brothers, my
Asian brothers, not everybody, and my sister. And it's all
y'all get checked out, because it could have been a
whole another gathering if I had. I'm thankful. It's been
a tremendous journey. It's been tough. I think I dropped
(07:02):
twenty five pounds. I was like a Landa Valcon prime
at one point.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
No, and then he had to kind of keep this
close to the vest. He didn't want it to become
a distraction. He knew about this a couple of months ago,
and of course, a couple of months ago the NFL
Draft happened, and both of his sons were participating in
that as potential draftees.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
And this is how he chose to handle it on
draft day.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It wasn't just that, it was just I knew as.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Well I had a sarder coming up.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
My sons to this day don't know what transparent. I
just told him to something, move my foot again, because
I wanted them to focus on making the team, I mean,
not focused on Dad.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
And he gets into the physical limitations, I mean a
major procedure like this, the removal of one's bladder. You know,
science and medicine has come a long way here in
twenty twenty five to where it used to be and
his prognosis hopefully is a clean bill of health. They've
been able to remove all of the cancer. And comparing this,
like you said, the early detection to the unfortunate story
(08:06):
that Kelly shares about her friend John, was you know
that went from stomach cancer, which in and of itself isolated,
You're early detected. That is a treatable and in fact,
I think, in many ways, a curable form of cancer.
You always got to keep an eye out whenever you
get a cancer diagnosis. From that point forward, it can recur,
and it can spread, and it can spread to other
organs that are a lot more difficult to treat, like
(08:28):
the gallbladder, like the pancreas, like the liver, and once
it spreads to those particular organs, it's a really rough
road from there. And here are the again, the physical
limitations that Prime was very open and honest about.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And I think this is good.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
This serves again as a public service for those about
that are out there maybe fighting the same battle.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That it's a whole life change. Like I can't then
I'm gonna be transparent. I can't pete like I used
to pee us. It is totally different and uh, she
not only is a blessing, but she provided other persons
that have gone through what I've gone through, so that
I could talk to them and get some solace in
understand like what I'm facing not just from a doctor,
(09:08):
but from another individual. And I have to have the
toe like it's a totally different life. I mean, thank God,
I'm now I depend on depend you know, you know
what I mean. I truly depend on depend Like I
cannot control my bladder, so I get up to go
to the bathroom already four or five times a night.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Well, that's not good for a sleep pattern, especially I
head football coach of a college program that you're running on.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Very little sleep.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
As it is, you get up, you can watch film,
and you organize practice, and then you go deep in
the latest of the day, two days, et cetera. Especially
coming up right now, he's coming up on his fifty
eighth birthday. Like it acts like he's getting older. He's
eight years older than I am. But I get it.
I mean, you should reach a certain age in your
mid life and things aren't working the way they used to.
(09:58):
And now he jokes about having the same problems that
his grandson does.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
But then I'm sitting up there waking up. You know,
like now, grandson, we're in the same thing. We got
the same problem right now, we're going through the same trials,
trim relations. We kind of see who has the heaviest
bag at the end of the night. Like this. It's ridiculous,
but I'm making a joke out of it, but it's real,
Like it is real. It is real.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It is real.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So if you see poor the party on the sideline,
it's real. Okay, I'm just telling you right now, you're
gonna see it. You're gonna see the practice. You're gonna
see one because it is unbelievable, Like dozing off and
waking up. My first thing, I'm grabbing my crops to
see if if if I feed on myself.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And it's just totally different.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And I know it's a lot of people out there
going through what I'm going through and dealing with what
I'm dealing with, and let's stop being ashamed of it,
and let's deal with it, and let's deal.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
With a hit on What an inspiration?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I mean, this guy is full of humility and grace
and we'll get into this in hour number two. He's
a man of God, and he's not afraid to talk
about it, and I think that bolsters a lot of
what's deep inside of him when it comes from a
strength and spirituality standpoint. I know our good friend Heidi
Ganall posted out well wishes for Dion Sanders, saying that
(11:18):
she was praying for him. We are praying for her too, Heidi.
It's been publicly announced, and I wanted to keep this
quiet for as long as she wanted to, but she's
been talking about it, much like Deon Sanders publicly her
battle with breast cancer. And so I replied to her
post on X with exactly that, and to keep her
and to keep Dion Sanders in your prayers and in
your thoughts and good vibes sent their way.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Every little bit helps. It certainly ends up.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
And you also have Tom Martine, who is part of
the three percent that actually survived pancreatic cancer. Incredible, incredible
and had a very difficult, amazing procedure I that saved
his life and made him cancer free. But you know,
(12:05):
also he lost a good portion of his stomach, his
entire gallbladder, most of is pancreas, and it was it's
still a longer recovery so you know, we're all surrounded
by this, whether it's Heidi or Dion or Tom or
these people.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You know, there are all of our friends, there are
co workers.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
We want them to be healthy and happy and all
of that. So yeah, just keep good thoughts out.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Five seven, seven, three nine, Ryan, can we all now
call him Peon Sanders? Come on, well, you are really
going to go there. It's like the fourth grade, you know.
And also it does a totally different mean. If anybody
is not a peon, you know, one of the pleabs, Plebeians, plebeans,
howe you say that word is not Neon Sanders. This
guy is a mover and a shaker and a true
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leader of men and just a leader in general. And
we'll get into again his belief in God a little
bit later on Ryan. Seven, this is your birth year
unless he's about to turn fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Haven't googled it?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Well no, no, no, no, no, Deanna, and I his
birthday's coming up, like I said, and it is August ninth,
nineteen sixty seven. And yeah, he's seven years older, so
he's going to be fifty eight. I'm going to be
fifty one in September.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
There are dueling narratives out here, and we've known about
this for some time. There are the deals that he's making,
including another one today with the European Union, and he
is truly executing the art of the deal. But the
Epstein story won't go away. Why of course, the mainstream
media is not going to let that up. They're not
going to let him just savor the flavor of these
winds and all of his supporters to rally around him
and all the polls to go.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Northward in skyward.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
So Trump really opened up about this topic the day
in a way that I had not heard before. Jeffrey Epstein,
can you sell that book to that?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
What caused the breach?
Speaker 8 (13:55):
That's such old history, very easy to explain, but I
don't want to waste your time by explaining it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But for years I wouldn't talk to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
I wouldn't talk because he did something that was inappropriate.
He hired help, and I said, don't ever do that again.
He sold people that work for me. I said, don't
ever do that again. He did it again, and I
threw him out of the place for sna On Grada.
I threw him out and that was it. I'm glad
I did, if.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You want another truth.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
And by the way, I never went to the island,
and Bill Cletton went there supposedly.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Twenty eight times.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Interesting details there, because what he alleges Trump is that
Jeffrey Epstein was poaching Trump employees that Trump got pissed
off about it, said don't do that, and then Epstein
did it again, and that was it. Now, the other
story we've gotten that Epstein was banned from our alago
surrounds Epstein being inappropriate. I think it was with the
fourteen year old daughter of one of Trump's friends, and
(14:57):
it might have been at the club. And that was
the other track on this that I thought had contributed
to Trump finally just cutting all ties to Epstein. But
this story would appear to maybe even predate that. So
an interesting nugget nevertheless, And here's Ursula vonderlyon the EU
president on the power of Trump the deal maker.
Speaker 9 (15:18):
I want to thank President Trump personally for his personal
commitment and leadership to achieve this breakthrough. He's a tough negotiator,
but he is also a deal maker.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
And so what were the terms of this deal with
a fifteen percent tariff on all European goods and people
are questioning the tariffs, but many on the left are
starting to realize it is not taking the adverse effect
on the economy that many predicted it would. The economy,
in fact, is bouncing back stronger than ever because a
lot of people that are invested in the markets know
that this tariff approach was a cudgel. It was a
(15:55):
lever that Trump was pulling that was available at his
disposal to use as a negotiating tactic to make better
trade deals with Japan, with several other European nations all
over the globe, and now with the EU, and of
course at least Jordan, formerly of The Daily Beast, which
is a far left rag publication now of MSNBC, tries
(16:16):
to shift the conversation back to Jeffrey Epstein a really
big way.
Speaker 10 (16:21):
Well, yeah, because it at a moment when the EU
could have played with him a little bit, you know,
cat and mouse a little bit. They had more leverage
than you know, giving in this quickly and easily, I think.
But hey, I mean, Trump's got to soak up this
win because there aren't many more coming in the pipeline.
As long as this Epstein store continues to have legs.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Epstein the ghost he is haunting the president and speaking
of which that's our top story to night, Jeffrey Epstein controversy.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Who made that decision for that to be the lead?
That would be MSNBC. I wonder why they did that.
Is she really.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Suggesting, at least Jordan that the EU that Rustula Vonderland
should have played cat and mouse with the man who
wrote the.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Art of the deal. How is that going to work out?
How was that going to happen?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Steel trapped negotiations not buying that, not one bet? How
much more steam in the engine?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Kelly?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Do you think the Epstein story has because I think
when we get a quote like we got from Donald
Trump today, we need more of that. It'll clear the air,
it'll basically put this story behind him. But the more
that he obfuskates and tries to avoid talking about it,
the more it lingers. I just don't understand his approach
to this specific issue.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
Yeah, it's a different one because this is all they have.
Like we saw before, they were all going out and
dropping f bombs and trying to use that tactic to
make themselves. I don't know they had this whole thing
about Okay, let's try to do something to get men
(17:54):
to come back on our side.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Well, And to that point, hold on, Chris Matthews MSNBC.
He's not buying the negative polls on Trump. We've seen
the record low approval rating of the Democratic Party writ large.
Speaker 11 (18:06):
To be honest with you, the country is moving towards Trump.
I mean, these polls that come out and show him
not doing well, I don't buy that. I think strength,
his strength is still greater than the Democratic strength. He
is a stronger public figure than the Democratic people. I mean,
Obama still has tremendous charisma, but Trump has strengths, and
(18:29):
I think that's what.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
All the voters look for.
Speaker 11 (18:32):
But they wanted a president who is a strong figure,
and he's got it and he can. Yeah, it's just there,
and half the country buys it.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
That's what I think is his brute for strength alone.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
According to Chris Matthews Kelly in the quick half a
minute that we have left, is that enough to drive
Trump in the polls?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It sounds like Chris Matthews believes it is.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
I think there's a lot of people that actually believe that,
and I think you're going to see that. So let's
just let's see what happens with Epstein. You know, this
is what they have for now. They drop the F
bombs earlier, now they're dropping the E bombs with X.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Nice back one letter in the alphabet five seven seven
three nine. Got a couple of really deeply personal texts
about cancer, surviving and battling cancer.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
And of course, many of you.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Know my mom died of esophagal cancer three years ago.
We'll get to those when we come back after this
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Speaker 12 (21:14):
New video tonight of passengers evacuating a plane at DIA
because the plane's landing gear caught fire right before takeoff.
This Miami bound American Airlines flight deploying emergency slides here
directly onto the runway. Welcome to Dinner seven News at ten.
I'm Jackline Allen. We're learning new details tonight about what
happened and also hearing from one of the passengers on board.
(21:35):
You can see a fire underneath the plane there as
passengers slide down the emergency slides.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
A few hours later, I.
Speaker 12 (21:41):
Spoke to the passenger who took this video, Nick Circus,
right before he took off on a replacement flight.
Speaker 10 (21:48):
When did you figure out if something wasn't right?
Speaker 13 (21:51):
So we were on a way to take off, and
I would say about ten seconds before the plane was
supposed they get a airborne re heard the loud boom.
Some people started pinnating in style, but I kind of
kept calming. The only problem was some people grabbed their
luggage despite the fact that they were told not to
(22:12):
grab anything. And that's what kind of messed them when
they slide it out.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You can see that in the video.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
One person had to be taken to the hospital with
a minor injury, and the FAA says.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
It is investigating Jacqueline Allen Denver seven there and more
cause for concern coming out of Denver International Airport.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Kelly, what's going on there? Remember it wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Within the last couple of months, they lost all eyes
in the sky, yes on the planes coming in for
a full five minutes.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
I cannot even tell you. I have no idea what's
going on, But how.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Scary is it? You fly more than I did? You do?
Speaker 7 (22:50):
So it's it is really really concerning. And I don't
know if this is left over from the Transportation Department
of Transportation that you know, upgrade their systems, or if
this has something to do with that.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Air traffic control.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
I mean we got we got doors blowing off of
you know, airplanes in the middle of the air last.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Airlines we cut. I mean, okay, there's a problem now, Zach.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
You flew recently right on your Caribbean vacation, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
To Jamaica. Wasn't Bahamas, Bahamas, That's right, Bahamas. Man, there
were a.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Couple of times coming into a landing or taking off
where I was like, oh man, please work, especially leaving
that small airport in the Bahamas down there, shake it
a little bit. I was like, oh man, please, yeah,
please take me off here.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Did you experience any difficulties at Denver No, I had
heard saling. Really I was just being a baby, all right,
fair enough. But there's more to this story too. There's
a couple of things details that have emerged. Why I
want to talk about it today and invite your inputs
as well. Five seven, seven, thirty nine that just stand
out to me is not kosher. And here's some of
(23:58):
the quoting. This is from Lauren Pennington, also of Denverse seven.
A quote thirty twenty three is a boarding on the
runway fire on the left side. The American Airlines pilot
can be heard saying in an air traffic control recording
obtained by Denverse seven. Video shared by Denver seven of
the evacuation shows passengers sliding down the rubber slide, many
(24:19):
holding their carry on bags and several struggling to balance
their luggage with their children. Okay, there's a point to
be made here on that, but there's also a residual
point on making a moment. So American Airlines officials stayed
in their Airlines safety briefing played at the beginning of
each flight, which I know a lot of us tune out,
and you're wearing your earbuds and you're not supposed to
be and you're supposed to be paying attention. And when
you sit in the exit rows, which I've done many times,
(24:41):
they're asking you, are you willing and able to assist
in the event of.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You know, a water landing or any kind of emergency.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Any answer yes in the affirmative that you are willing
to do that, And it says, in the unlikely event
of an evacuation, leave all carryons behind and follow lights
quickly and safely to the nearest exit. The video, which
shows passengers violating those safety instructions, led to backlash online.
But that wasn't the only thing, you know. Yeah, it
(25:13):
stands to reason if the plane is on fire, GT
to the FO anything you brought on that plane that's
not a human being or a pet is replaceable. If
you're a cosmetic bag, leave it, leave it, don't I
got no go. The other part of this, which you know,
(25:34):
as an oldest brother, as a guy that's looking out.
There was nobody standing at the bottom of this slide
trying to assist the elderly women and children. Was every
person for themselves, everyone for themselves, and you know they're
they're bouncing off the slide. They got their carry on
bags they shouldn't have had in the first place. Wasn't
(25:57):
there a man I'm saying this, yeah, traditional roles here,
but a young, well built man take in charge of
the situation, stepping up and go hey, I'm going to
help you out. Or alternatively, wasn't there any kind of
airline personnel that would have been designated to help in
that scenario? Why were we watching on this video, Kelly,
(26:21):
every individual doing their own thing, willy nilly, hither and yon.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It was really an amazing video.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
But to go to your point, have you ever sat
in an exit row where they come up to you
and they actually give you the spiel?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yes, say look that you listen to the show, but
there are.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Other things here. Okay, I just said that. Send me
a break anyway. So but to that point, this entire video,
they did everything wrong. I mean, there wasn't any personnel
looking out. There wasn't apparently any of the flight attendants
who were saying, no, leave your bag, leave your bag, Okay,
(27:01):
you can deal without your purse, you know, because I
mean I saw women literally had like having one kid
under their arm and their purse under the other.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's like, okay, you can get another leave. We talked here.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
As only Kelly can speak of it. There and the
brand names of the purse. And then finally here after
hearing a loud boom, the plane quote started to violently
shake and we were drifting to the left side of
the runway. Shay Armistead, a seventeen year old from Menturn, Colorado,
told the AP in an interview, So, there's a lot
that needs to come out I think from the investigation
(27:38):
of this incident, in which it needs to be handled
a bit more cleanly going forward, that there are again
people that are designated in the event of an emergency
that are designed to help those getting off the plane.
And if you don't want that to be a civilian,
that's one thing. But where is the instinct, the protective
(27:59):
instinct of any in visual on that plane to go
you know what, there may be some people that need
some help here instead of that see you later. I'm
gone and taking my carry on with me. Five seven
seven three nine. If you've had an incident at the
airport that was a cause for concern, like we're talking
about here and I'm talking about Denver specifically, send those
(28:19):
texts along at five seven seven three nine. We've got
a couple of textas I mentioned on breast cancer survivor
Gina in our listening audience. She now of Missouri, formerly here, Ryan,
I am a breast cancer survivor. Please pass on my
prayers to Heidi for a full and speedy recovery. We
need her voice in our fight for America. She's done
yeoman's work online and organizing the communication efforts, the messaging
(28:45):
for our state Republican party, and that should not go
without being commented upon and helping out britt to Horn
our new chair and Richard Holdtorf now our new vice chairs.
That was decided a week ago today. This from John.
I'm glad you're talking about this today.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Ryan. My wife just buried her sister.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
She fought breast cancer almost six years and it finally
did her in. Let me say to you that her
husband is an oncologist, probably one of the best in
the state and maybe in North America, and he couldn't
save her life. I missed Dina every day. She had
the brightest smile. She worked with autistic kids in Fort Collins.
She was a saint. Yeah, that's tough, and I've been
(29:25):
through it personally, as has Kelly. Our parents, my mother,
her father, each dying of a esophageal cancer. That's one
of the worst ones you can get to. And I
hate it. And it happens in the news a lot
as we go to break here when it's reported so
and so lost their battle with cancer today, and they not.
If you've ever battled cancer, or if you have been
(29:46):
in the fight with a loved one who has battled cancer,
no one loses that fight. The fight ends, and perhaps
it doesn't end the way we want it to, as
was the case with my mom and Kelly's dad.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
But I would never say my mom will us that fight.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
She fought harder than I ever thought she could, and
I knew she was a tough woman, but she went
through all the treatments, she was had agency in her
own recovery, and she hit a high water mark there.
I would say in the summer of twenty twenty two,
where she was feeling a lot better, and she was
moving around, she was able to eat some things, she
was able to.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Enjoy those things that she used to enjoy.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
And then fortunately, a car accident totally unrelated to the
condition that she was in happened with a woman that
probably shouldn't have been driving and hit my mom as
she was pulling out of my sister's driveway and her
apartment there in Jackson, Michigan, and ended up as she
had a broken leg that limited her mobility. She couldn't
(30:43):
get up in a round and eventually the esophageal cancer
overtook her. Now I had some conversations with the attending nurse,
you know, as we put her in the hospice, and
she went pretty quickly after that, and I was beating
myself up, you know, as her oldest son. I'm like,
we've got to find a way. We got to be
able to determine and you know, some kind of path
to recovery. And I'm not going to give up.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
If you don't give up, I'm not going to give up.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
And it finally became too much, and you know, I
have a hard time with that. I don't accept losing
very easily, and especially when a life is on the line.
Of my mother, I'm going to fight to the end,
to the death literally in that case. But what the
nurse told me was, Ryan, look, you might get a
false sense of recovery with your mom. She started at
(31:26):
stage three esophagill cancer and it gradually got worse, and
that the prognosis, even on a level playing field without
the car accident, is not very good. That the maximum
typically a person survives after being diagnosed with any stage
of esophagil cancer is about five years, and she made
it not quite one, and she was older. Obviously, there
(31:46):
are extenuating circumstances with regard to that was the condition
of the patient when the treatment starts, and what she
tried to assure me, and you know, it's still it
still bothers me regardless, is that no matter what we
had done, or no matter if there hadn't been a
car accident, that this was likely to degrade and her
condition was likely to decline over a set number of months,
(32:10):
and that let's say take the car accident out, maybe
she lasts another few months or a half a year
or something like that. But she seemed to think that
with my mom's situation, that how quickly it kind of
came back with a vengeance in the wake of that
car accident, that that was what was going to be
the end of her and not anything having to do
with the car accident. So it was really tough, very
(32:32):
difficult pill to swallow. But that's why I go back
to nobody loses their fight with cancer. If you choose
to embark upon that fight and you put in the will,
and you go through the treatment, and you put your
faith in God the way that Dion Sanders had with
his bladder cancer that was announced today, then you're a winner.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You haven't lost, You've won. Take a break, we'll come back.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Wrap up with more of your text here in our
one of Ryan Shuling Life stopped on by and tuned in,
I was Zach Seegers, Kelly Cacher, and Ryan Shuling in
your text at five seven seven, three.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Nine, and I'm up this one. Ryan.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Normally, when you sit in the window emergency seat, they
ask you if you are fit enough and willing to
aid passengers off the plane if an emergency should arise.
So my question, then Texter to Zach, to Kelly to
all of you. Where were those people when this plane
was being evacuated on the tarmac at DA You I
(33:37):
don't want to say you swore an oath, but you
did answer in the affirmative that yes, you are willing
to help in the event.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Of an emergency.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
And I would think engine on fire or whatever was
going on there would qualify and constitute an emergency for
which you agreed to help, and you didn't.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Where were you? Shame on you? What happened? Five seven
seven three nine? Kelly? You still there? Is she over that?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
I can't see her. She's gone, Okay, bye, Kelly. I'm
so sad about this. Getting into a couple of things.
I'm going to set the table for hour number two.
Aaron Lee is going to join us coming up after
the top of the hour, and her case is advancing.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Now.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm not saying it's being taken.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
Up by the Marine Corps, because I think I saw
some confusion out there on the reporting along those lines.
But she is the founder of Protect Kids Colorado. You
might be very familiar with her story if you haven't
seen Art Club. That is a documentary featuring her, her husband,
and her daughter who was indoctrinated into trans ideology under
the guys, under the ruse, under the premise of it
(34:44):
being an after school art club, it was anything but that.
It was subterfuge used to disguise what it really was.
And then the daughter, after a couple of hours at
this not art club that was an indoctrination, started questioning
her own gender identity. The seeds fruit of the poisonous
(35:06):
tree here were planted in her mind and caused more confusion.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
This is a dastardly deed.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
And so Aaron Lee has filed a suit against the
Pewter School District and it has been added for consideration
to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Of the United States docket.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
And we'll get that update from her coming up in
our number two.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
To start that conversation.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Also, we'll get into the spiritual side of Coach Prime
Deon Sanders if you're just tuning in. He was given
a diagnosis of bladder cancer and while that was serious,
it was caught early enough that there were surgical options
which will affect him for the rest of his life,
but that would get rid of the cancer with the
removal of said bladder, and that's what they did. And
(35:52):
see you holding a press conference today to announce that.
But what was more fascinating to me is how Coach
Prime has chosen to handle this, that he would use
his platform, powerful as it is for him as a
high profile college football coach, to be perfectly transparent and
honest about what he's going through, and that can be
reassuring to people out there that don't have that platform
(36:13):
but are going through much of the same. It might
have doubts, and they might have doubts regarding their faith
about being able to get through something like that, and
yet here's Coach Prime shining that bright light of hope,
of faith, of belief. And this I think is central
to a lot of people overcoming whether it's an issue
that's psychological or whether it's a physical malady. And Coach
(36:38):
Prime has been dealt more than his fair share of those,
and yet he has not lost that unbridled enthusiasm and
optimism that there are brighter days ahead because he is
a man of God. And I think that's so important
for us to use that as an example, to observe
his example and to learn from that example. So he'll
be a point of conversation coming up in our one
(36:59):
two as well well, And George Brockler joining us at
the bottom of hour number two. Amy Patten has suddenly
gone public and I find that timing quite interesting. The
DA of the eighteenth who was mum and quiet and
silent and hiding behind her subordinates and press releases when
it comes to the curious case of Solomon Gallaghan, suddenly
(37:20):
did two, not one, but two sit down interviews for
local television stations, both Denver seven and CBS four. And
now she's coming out of the woodwork to say, ah,
the state law about having a person being declared incompetent
to stay on trial and then bye bye. There you
go back into the public square as a sex offender
and somebody that potentially was going to kidnap and who
knows what with a young child, an elementary school student
(37:43):
on a playground. Have that conversation with gebrock coming up
as well. Our number two straight ahead
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