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September 9, 2025 • 35 mins
Iryna Zarutska was a refugee from Ukraine, seeking peace and safety in the United States. Decarlos Brown was arrested fourteen times prior to murdering her in cold blood on public transit in Charlotte, North Carolina. Are Colorado's soft-on-crime laws, particularly as it pertains to 'competence' for the mentally deranged to stand trial, inviting the same nightmare to happen here? Ryan points out the absurdity, insanity, and sheer danger of it all.

Dave Logan, legendary voice of the Denver Broncos on sister station KOA, joins Ryan to discuss the team's historic announcement of a state-of-the-art new stadium facility to be built at Burnham Yard.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Breaking Tonight, two weeks since a young woman was killed
on the light rail, Katz has now released surveillance video
of that horrific night.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Skal Wickersham and.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm Erica Bryant. Cal nine was one of multiple news
outlets to request a copy of the video with the
purpose of trying to better understand the timeline shared by
authorities in the days since the attack. First, we want
to bring you up to speed on where things stand now.
According to the police and Katz, the Carlos Brown stabbed
and killed Arena Zarutska back on August the twenty second.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
She was here in Charlotte after leaving the war in Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Brown is in jail on those murder charges. Tonight, Katz also.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Banned him from riding their service for life.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Cal Nin's Joe Bruno has been one of several reporters
dedicated to covering this story since day one. Now he
reviewed the footage and he is joining us now in
the studio. Joe, I understand it's very disturbing.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, the video is horrific.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
It's extremely disturbing and it was incredibly hard to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Out of respect for the.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Family, we are not showing any portion of it where
you can see Arena Zarutska. What we will show gives
you perspective in context surrounding the night of August twenty second.
So we'll start with the man in the red sweatshirt
right here. This is to Carlos Brown, and you could
see the train was pretty full, several passengers sitting around him.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
When Zarutska boarded the train.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
She sat in this seat right here on the aisle
in the row in front of him. You could see
Brown was at the window. Zarutska was wearing headphones. The
two had no interaction whatsoever. She was scrolling on her
phone the entire ride. De Carlos Brown showed little to
no emotion. On the ride, he rested his head on

(01:42):
the window, and just as Katz said, he looked like
any other transit rider. About a minute before the fatal stabbing,
we noticed a shift.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
He started to fidget with.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
His hand and his eyes widened. This stood out because
we knew what was about to happen, but it wasn't
necessarily some thing that would seem strange or dangerous to you.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
In the moment.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
He actually rested his head on the glass again, just
seconds before he took a knife out of his pocket,
stood up and immediately stabbed Arena Zerrutska. Then, in Zaruska's
final moments, this angle shows Brown slowly walking toward the
front of the train. Another man ran to tell the
light rail operator what had happened and to stop. About

(02:26):
two minutes and five seconds later, when the train came
to a stop at the East West station, Brown stepped
off the train. Cmpity arrested him on the platform. One
thing I want to point out is the heroic passengers
who rushed to Zarutska's aid. We saw one man literally
take the shirt off of his back and attempt CPR Erica.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Just a disturbing case here, Joe, thank you for breaking
all that down for us. A Tail nine spoke to
the mother of de Carlos Brown, the suspect. She says
she's heartbroken about what happened. She says her son has
schizophrenia and that she has tried multiple times to get
him help to no avail. Arina Zaruska's family obituary says

(03:11):
that she was an artist. She loved sculpting and designing unique,
eclectic clothing that reflected her vibrant spirit. It went on
to say that she had a deep love for animals
and that she often cared for her neighbor's pets. She
fled Ukraine with her mother, sister, and brother to come
here to our area.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
That from w SOOCTV Channel nine in Charlotte, North Carolina,
Ryan Schuling, live back with you after my sojourn to Florida,
and I'll tell you this. I'll start right here. I
flew back earlier today and my arm's retired now, and
I'm going to do the dad joke there now. I
flew back and I took the light rail, and I
did this intentionally because of what I had just witnessed.

(03:53):
Now many of you may have seen the video. It
is very disturbing. I've seen both. There's a portion that
Fox News is in transmitting that shows the would be
assassin kind of in mid stabbing motion, and then I've
seen it carry forward and it is difficult to watch.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
President Trump has watched. He's commented on it.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Will get more from Caroline Levitt as to the President's
comments in just a moment. But my reaction was a
little bit different. Now the reporter was there, he was
able to check with eyewitnesses on the scene, law enforcement personnel.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I believe that he did a good job.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
But what I saw, what I witnessed in the immediate
aftermath of that, we could be talking about a matter
of seconds, not just minutes, but seconds, And there may
not have been any saving arena. But when I watched that,
my immediate impulse and instinct would be you got to
find the wound and pressure, put pressure on the wound
to stop the bleeding. That he may have severed an artery.
It might not have done any good. Maybe they tried that.

(04:52):
I didn't see that. And taking the shirt off your back,
that's one thing. You can't really put a tourniquet on
a woman's neck because you're gonna close off or wind
pipe and she's going to die that way anyway. Not
to say there were any good options here, but I think,
you know, the good Samaritans on that train were just
a little bit too much in shock and what I
noticed too immediately before the stabbing.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
And this is all of us.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
I'm not saying this is a blanket criticism that I
am free and independent of, although I will tell you
riding the light rail early earlier today from the airport,
the number one thing I can tell you, and I
am not blaming Arena the deceased here whatsoever. This is
not her fault. She should be able to ride public
transportation light rail without.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
The fear of being stabbed and murdered.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
That's a base level expectation where the United States of America,
this isn't some third world country, but our law enforcement
is being handcuffed. You'll hear about this too from Sheriff
Steve Reems right here in Colorado. To the most egregious
and obvious of violent offenders, whether they be mentally incompetent

(05:58):
or not, they need to be move from society. They
cannot function in society. That individual should not have been
on that train. An Arena should still be alive. The
part though, that the female anchor that you heard there
at the end, they had exclusive access to the mother
of de Carlos Brown, the attacker. I'm not even gonna
say alleged, you saw it happen. Alleged can go out

(06:21):
the window. As far as he did it, he was arrested,
he'll be charged. Finally, fourteen prior arrests, including armed robbery
and a prison sentence served. That should be zero tolerance
going forward. I don't care if it was jaywalking, probation violation, boom,
back to jail. You go, that's that's got to be

(06:42):
the standard, or else this happens, or else Solomon Galligan
happens in Aurora. I want to hear the Democrats coming
out of the woodwork, Amy Padden and others here in
the state of Colorado defending this madness. What is the
upside to this, to allowing a solid Gallagan back on
the streets, to allowing a de Carlos Brown in North

(07:04):
Carolina back on the streets, What is the upside to that?
Tell me five seven seven three nine. You could text
it in if you're a liberal Democrat and you love criminals.
I don't know why I can't really rationalize that or
relate to that.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I'm glad that I can't.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
But explain to me exactly what good comes from putting
these absolute maniacs back on our streets. How are we safer?
How are we better as a society? How is it
better for the offenders who are obviously mentally ill, that's obvious, insane, incompetent.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
That's another level.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
This person had the power to kill a young female.
You'll hear from Greg Guttfeld on a little bit, and
he has a master class breakdown of this that tells you, no,
this guy wasn't completely insane because he calculated he saw
a vulnerable target, a young, tiny, petite, thin female. Doesn't

(08:08):
matter that she was white, but all those other qualities
do matter. That made her a vulnerable target. So he
must have done a calculation there in some way, shape, manner,
or form. And the part that the anchor left out,
I'll get back to that, circling back to that that
Carlos Brown's own mother said he shouldn't have been in
the community. His own mother, Well, that certainly flies in

(08:32):
the face of something Van Jones said, and we'll get
to that in a moment. Here's the dangerously aloof and
mundane Abby Phillips CNN.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
When you are mentally ill, you have a hard time
knowing that you are mentally ill. But also, I mean
people like Charlie kirk Van, they've been looking for opportunities
to make this some sort of like reciprocal George Floyd situation.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
And that's the part that I think he's almost giving
away the game. And it's sad to see a lot
of people going along with it.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
The game. It's sad to see you reduce this once again?
How many times have I had this conversation with Steven L. Miller,
Red Stee's, host of the Versus Media podcast.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Is what he does? Republicans pounce.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Qopes unconvenient political issue, crime in our cities.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Republicans, notice that's the crime here.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
According to Abby Phillip, this was a story in Axios
that said it was MAGA influencers like Charlie kirk Or
making a bigger deal out of this than it should
have been. Why don't you just pipe down, shut up
and let this all blow over. Now, imagine what Abby

(09:51):
Phillip just said. And I'm gonna play you the first
part of what Van Jones said, and then I think
you're gonna have the same question I do. I know,
Kelly will I'm pretty certain Shannon will Hi, Shannon Shannon
Scott on the other side of the glass. Detroit Connection
re established a lot of electricity today and.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
What happened to that young woman was horrible. And it's
everybody's nightmare. You fear in any public space, a subway, whatever,
that something bad is gonna happen to you or somebody
you care about.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
So it does strike a.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Chord okay, I might mention the video of this. Van
Jones says that I believe him to be sincere. He's
not a bad guy. I don't think he's a bad guy.
I'm not so sure about Abby Phillip. She had a
stone cold stare into the abyss as he said that.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
As he said that.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
This young woman dying as a tragedy, she didn't nod,
she didn't affirm it verbally, and she just stood there staring.

Speaker 7 (10:44):
We don't know why that man did what he did.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yes, we do.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
And for Charlie Kirk to say we know he did
it because she's white, when there's no evidence of that,
it's just pure race mongering, hate mongering.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's wrong.

Speaker 7 (10:56):
Then he says that if something like that had happened
the other way, there'd be sweeping changes in polls on society.
Where is the George Floyd Policing Act. It didn't pass.
Even when you had a white police officer murder a
black man on live television.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
The whole world saw.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
There were no sleeping changes. In fact, not one law
was past at the federal level.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Set aside the fact that George Floyd had multiple drug
interactions in his system, that contributed to his death. Put
it this way, if George Floyd did not have those
drugs compromising his system.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
He may not have died that day.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
I'm not excusing what Derek Shauvin dead or how he
handled it, but George Floyd was no hero and he
wasn't an innocent victim, not in that case. Again, set
that aside. What we just heard from Abbey Philip, Well,
we just heard from Van Jones. Would they be equivocating,
making excuses, deflecting, comparing if the races were reversed here.

(11:56):
I'm asking that because I think it's terrible either way.
If a deranged, lunar tick white guy, let's say a
Charles Manson, a Ted Bundy, there's plenty of other than
the pick from pick one.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Jeffrey Dahmer.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Did this open murder, broad daylight on a train, public
transit and the victim was a young black woman, petite demrror,
it would be equally awful and there.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Would be no excuses for it. I don't care how
crazy the white guy was.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
I'm not gonna sit there and defend him or try
to justify, equivocate it, mollify it. Oh, the mentally ill
don't know that they're mentally ill. His own mother said
he should be removed from society, that he did not
belong in the community, and yet Van Jones throws out
this red herring.

Speaker 7 (12:44):
You mentioned the thing about cashless bail. I think this
is a big challenge that we have. Would you have
thought better if there had been cash bail and the
mom had come and put down one thousand dollars to
let him out. It's not about cashless bail or no
cashless bill. It's about the fact that we don't know
how to deal with people who were hurting in the
way this man was hurting.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Hurt people, hurt people.

Speaker 7 (13:04):
What happened was horrible, but it becomes an opportunity for
people to jump on van wagons, and then for someone
like Charlie Kirk, he should be ashamed of himself. No
one mentioned the word race, white, black, or anything except hen.
What people mention is that the horror of what happened
is young want no van. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
There is no way on God's Green Earth or any
other planet in this Solar system, or any other planet
in the galaxy where you would say a white perpetrator
a black victim, or hell, a white perpetrator, a white victim,
where you would say, you know what, hurt people, hurt people.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
We got to see it from his point of view.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
He's insane, he's crazy, he's there's a report and I
want to make sure I say this it's unconfirmed, but
that this perpetrator said something along the lines I killed
the white girl.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Or something like that.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
That he did meant that he did mention race in
this and again to Carlos Brown this example, the Van
Jones gives what if we did if cash Bill and
his mom came and bailed him on his mom said
he should be incarcerated his old mother.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Cash cash list bail. I mean, Caroline.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Lovett spells it out here, and I'm going to let
her do the talking because she does it very well
and really calls out the media here on what you.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Just heard today.

Speaker 8 (14:17):
I would like to address the tragedy that has not
received nearly enough media attention, the brutal murder of Arena Zarutzka.
Here are the facts that many outlets have shamefully and
intentionally failed to report until President Trump drew attention to
it on August twenty second. Arena Zarutska was stabbed to
death on the rail system in Charlotte, North Carolina by

(14:40):
a savage career criminal. This is a public transportation system
that many in the area use every single day to
go to school and work. Arena was on the train
that night, traveling home from her job at a pizzeria,
still in uniform from her shift. This beautiful, innocent, twenty
three year old young woman was a ukra Granian refugee

(15:01):
who had recently fled her country for a chance at
a safer life and a promising new beginning here in
the United States of America. But tragically, a public transportation
system in a major American city was more dangerous than
the active war zone.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
That she left.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Now, it's incredible that this individual, this monster, was free
after the fourteen previous convictions.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
But again, ask yourself this.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
If the perpetrator were white and he had committed those
fourteen previous crimes was arrested.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Would he be out in the public. I would venture
to say no.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
And if he were my god, the media would be
covering it, and they should be from Alpha to Omega
and all points in between, and I would be too,
would be like, what is this guy doing? Free on bail.
He's a monster, he's a lunatic, he's deranged. He can't
function in society regardless of race. But it's the left
that makes these excuses for whatever reason. It's the soft

(15:56):
bigotry of low expectations. As President George W. Bush said
that for some reason, I mean, white guy, you know,
fourteen previous, you lock him up, throw away the key,
and I would.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Agree with that.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
But because the individual happens to be black, we're gonna go,
you know what, dum.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Let's give him a fifteenth chance.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
No, do not care what race he is, but you
don't give him special treatment because he happens to be black.
He's been arrested fourteen times. This is not a mistake.
This is not a luck of the draw. This is
not a spin of the roulette wheel that happened to
not go his way. Caroline Levitt on his last arrest,
it was in January of this year.

Speaker 8 (16:35):
Brown had previously served five years in prison for a
robbery with a deadly weapon charge, and he had also
forfeited bonds three different times, twice in twenty fourteen and
once in twenty twenty three. Despite all of this past
documented criminal history, When Brown was arrested yet again in
January of this past year, a Democrat judge who will

(16:57):
I will add was a supporter, a strong support a
former Vice President, Kamala Harris, released this insane criminal once
again without requiring him to pay any bail. He simply
had to sign a written promise to return for his
court hearing.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Think about how crazy it is to ask a.

Speaker 8 (17:16):
Career criminal, someone who by definition repeatedly breaks the law,
to just sign a written promise and come back again
another day.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
This is madness.

Speaker 8 (17:25):
This monster should have been locked up and Arena should
still be alive.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Now what she's describing there. And George Brockler and you
won't want to miss this. The Dream Team is united
for four to six. It'll be the DA of the
twenty third. George Brockler, the Sheriff of Wild County. Steve
Reims co hosting for the Dan Kaplis show. I mean,
that's appointment listening. But one of the reasons is both
of their perspectives and backgrounds on cases like this, and

(17:50):
Sheriff Steve Raams is dealing with one very similar to this.
Because of our soft on crime laws here in Colorado
that require that if you go shrink shopping, find a
psychiatrist wacky as the one may be that says this
person is incompetent to stand trial. They don't understand the
charges against them. That's it, get out of jail free card.

(18:12):
You just need to win once you don't have the
opportunity as a prosecutor. Wait wait wait, whoa whoa, whoa whoa.
That's one chiatrist's opinion. I got one over here that
says this person is perfectly fine. They're they're putting is
an act, and maybe it is. There was one of
these cases where the defendant was standing before the judge,

(18:33):
and the judge asked him, you know, do you understand
what incompetent means?

Speaker 2 (18:37):
And he said something.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Along the lines of it means this is all goes away,
So he understood.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
That part. Sounds pretty competent to me.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
But what she's describing there is a PR bond, a
personal recognissance bond. We're talking about this being applied to
the lunatic who was served a prison sentence for armed
robbery in his past, along with myriad other convictions. A
PR bond is something you extend to somebody. It's their
first defense they've never broken the law in their lives. Okay,
on your own personal recognizance, sign this paper you greet

(19:09):
up here. You don't offer that to this guy. Democrats
are soft on crime. They value criminals over law abiding citizens,
plain and simple, until or unless we get more people
on the left the Democratic side standing up and calling
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legendary voice of the Denver Broncos for today's breaking news
as the team announces a new stadium location at Burnham Yard,
Dave Logan, our guest. Dave, thank you so much for taking.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
A few minutes.

Speaker 9 (21:53):
Hey, Ryan, good to talk with it.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Just your initial first flush reactions to this deal getting
done and what it means for the city of ns
fans and the team.

Speaker 9 (22:04):
No, I think it's exciting news. It's it's I wasn't
really surprised. I mean, this thing has been and there
are other people that know it as well, in the
works for for quite some time. But I think it's
going to be I have no idea really in terms
of what that will look like. But I but I
do have a sense of what the Walton Pitter Family

(22:26):
ownership group is like, and I think they have They've
exhibited this first class tendencies ever since they got here.
So I'm anxious to see what this whole thing looks like.
I would imagine it's it's gonna be great for the
city of Denver, I can tell you this. I think
it'll be great for Broncos fans too. Once this thing

(22:48):
is finally completed.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I'm want to focus on that part of it.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
With the ownership group getting this done Dave and being
such a smooth process, them committing to it being privately funded,
I think that's big. We've seen other states fall through
and it's cost cities teams, whether it was Oakland and
the Raiders and the a's Tampa Bay at risk of
losing the Rays. We watched Baltimore, the Colts moved Indianapolis.
We watch the Cleveland Browns move to Baltimore. I mean,

(23:12):
this could be a big deal breaker, and yet it
never seemed to go sideways.

Speaker 9 (23:18):
No, that's exactly right. And also the Chargers, I mean
they moved from San Diego to Los Angeles, and that
was largely due to the stadium issue. So I never
really thought that that would come into play. Ryan, to
tell you the truth, again, I just think that you've
got a first class ownership group and a group that

(23:38):
has the wherewithal to do things the right way, a
group that I think their intent when they took over
was to steward this franchise and they understood the impact
that this franchise had on Denver, on the surrounding areas
and also really the Rocky Mountain region. And I think
if you just look at you just look at what

(24:00):
they've done since they've been here. I mean, it feels
to me like they've been here, you know, fifteen or
twenty years. That's not the case. But they have just
quietly behind the scenes, I think, done a really good job.
And again, I think it's going to be fascinating in
this process to see what the stadium looks like in
the surrounding area as well. But I think it's really

(24:22):
good news for the Broncos and the Broncos fans.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Dave Logan, longtime legendary voice of the Denver Broncos, over
on our sister station KOA is about to enter a
meeting with Jojo Turnbo, our vice president, and he'll go
on the air. You can listen to continuing coverage of
this coming up at three pm. They've got a great
show going on over there. Just one last thing, Dave,
and that is you have seen so many of these
new NFL stadiums, like keeping up with the Joneses, and

(24:45):
I mean literally Jerry Jones Jerry World in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I've been there a couple of times.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
You have the new facility so far in Los Angeles,
Cronky there creating that entire world. How big does this
project need to be or does it need to be
that big? And what would you compare it to I'm
hearing about a retractable roof. Would this be similar to
the stadium we see in Arizona? What are you kind
of your thumbnail sketch thoughts.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
On all of that.

Speaker 9 (25:10):
I mean, I'll be honest about it. I don't have
any concrete information on that. I've heard the retractable dome
thing as well. That would make sense to me from
a multi use standpoint. And also I think if not assure,
it would go a long way. I think if that's
the case toward towards Denver hosting a Super Bowl, and

(25:33):
so I don't know what the stadium is going to
look like, but whether it's going to be as extravagant
as SOFI in Los Angeles or as you mentioned, Jerry's
World down in the Dallas area, but it'll be a
first class facility. I can't imagine that they would be
involved with anything that was not at or near the

(25:54):
top in terms of every amenity and just the overall
feel of the stadium. So again, I think that's one
of the things that will be kind of fun to
follow as words starts to get out in terms of
what the actual stadium will be like and more importantly,
what the experience for fans going to the stadium will

(26:16):
be like, because I think that's going to be very,
very important for this ownership group.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Extremely exciting news today the Denver Broncos announcing a new
stadium location at Burnham Yard, about southeast from the current
location of Mile High and in Power Field. There is Benjamin
Albright reporting for KOA that the stadium should be fully
constructed and ready to go in calendar year season twenty
thirty two, so we'll have that to look forward to
and you have Dave Logan to look forward to KOA

(26:42):
Sports coming up at the top of the hour, three o'clock. Dave,
I'll let you get on your way. Thank you so
much for taking a few minutes with me.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Give bet Ryan good Chuck right, Dave Logan, legendary voice
of the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
And as I say that, how about I turn you
right into this wall of sound, this audio presentation of
the Denver Broncos, and it starts off with none other
and the voice you just heard, the voice of the Broncos,
Dave Logan.

Speaker 10 (27:08):
Different Broncos are going back to the super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
That's the greatest facility, were the greatest.

Speaker 11 (27:14):
Bad It's our goal to have world class facilities for
this team and for our fans obviously with the rich
tradition and history at Mile High, and find.

Speaker 12 (27:24):
Something that the fans would love as a site that
had proximity to that and Denver, we couldn't be more
excited about.

Speaker 11 (27:30):
Burnham Yard is the preferred site to build.

Speaker 12 (27:32):
A new stadium in an incredible year round destination.

Speaker 13 (27:35):
One of our goals is to be a really good
partner across the community. We really have tried to do
that since we arrived three years ago, aspiring to be
the best team to play for, to work for, and
to cheer for. We want to create an amazing venue
for our fans as well as for our players.

Speaker 12 (27:53):
The first time we stepped on the site of there
was a real appeal going back to the history of
Burnham Yard and the rail which is an important part
of Colorado history.

Speaker 13 (28:02):
It's not something that we'll just have a large parking
lot all around it, but really creating someplace that's special
that people leave and talk about and say, oh my gosh,
when you come to Denver, you've got to be here
at Burnham Yard.

Speaker 14 (28:14):
Every kid in the state pulls up on love of
the Broncos, and I think for people in Denver especially,
it has always felt as connected to home as anything
that they don't. We'll all willing to work hard for
something that's bigger than any one of us, and that
was where I think the state, the city, and Broncos
said the win win win. Here is a way to
support Denver neighborhoods, keep a story franchise in Denver, and

(28:35):
drive economic opportunity for generations to come.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Here in Colorado. We're Broncos Country.

Speaker 15 (28:40):
And Denver is the beloved home of a team that
means so much to us that these memories with our
grandparents going into games and we have the opportunity to
show Greg and carry the property. They really saw a
greater vision at potential for a future not only home
with the Denver Broncos, but also all the great ways
to activate it, what businesses and restaurants opportunities.

Speaker 16 (29:00):
The Broncos have committed to a full community benefits agreement
process in lockstep with the city, with local organizations neighborhood
representatives to talk about what's needed for a long term
vision for the connectivity between Burnham Yard, the existing Loma
Lincoln Park neighborhood, Baker neighborhood, and Vicinity.

Speaker 12 (29:20):
We got a long way to go. We've got to
roll up our slaves get to work. I think it's
really important to have an open and transparent process as
we go through the next couple of years of planning,
we'll get lots of input from others in the community,
and we're looking forward to that.

Speaker 17 (29:33):
Broncos Country is incredibly loyal and so really making sure
that we're doing the right thing for our players and
for our fans, but also for the city of Denver
and for the community.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
That we're a part of.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
That sound from the Denver Broncos themselves making this announcement
earlier today, if you're just tuning in, there will be
a new stadium located at Burnham Yard And as a
crow flies once again that intersection of I twenty five
and Colefatch, you'll know that empower Field at Mile High
is in the northwest corner of that junction.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
This will be in the southeast corner.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Of that junction, and there's a lot of room there
as was described, to build around it, make it a real,
truly like a village experience, not just the parking around
the stadium, but the fan experience around the stadium, talking
about tailgaming, talk about restaurants and bars, the revitalization of
that area. And although I know there's a little bit
too much Governor Jared Polis in that piece, he didn't

(30:32):
make some good points and that I would agree with
that this will inject so much into the Denver economy,
the Colorado sports market, and what they choose to do
with Empower Field from that point forward. Typically in the past,
what has happened, whether it was Kamiski Park, in Chicago
or Yankee Stadium in New York. They will raise oraze
level the old facility and turn it into ample amounts

(30:55):
of parking. And if they did that, think about how
much that would be.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Now.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Benjamin Albright was on earlier today once again with Mandy Connell,
and he was suspecting and she was as well.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I believe that they might put apartments in there.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
That's fine too, and that might help with the housing
epithetic crisis that we have, the shortages and perhaps drive
those prices down. But I think that the biggest thing
that I take away from this is going back to
the question that I asked Dave Logan about the stadium
deals getting done, and they can be a really big
point of contention. They can drive teams away, as he
mentioned the example of the San Diego Chargers going to
SOFI in LA and sharing that facility with the Rams

(31:28):
who were located relocated from Saint Louis, and of course
Stan Cronkey that ownership group creating that fan experience. We
see the new fan experience in San Francisco at the
Big Bell Bottom, as Chris Berman calls it. But then
Oakland loses not only its football team, the Raiders to
the Las Vegas. They're losing their baseball team, the Athletics,
the A's to Las Vegas, and they're in the midst
of that whole bunch of chaos.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Same thing in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
And that's because a lot of these smaller markets, Oakland,
Tampa Bay, they might not have as much of the
fans support needed, whereas here in Denver, I mean we
pull fans. I worked in Billings, Montana, and there are
Broncos fans clear up there that'll drive all the way
down I twenty five to go to a game.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
They'll do it.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
And I know we got fans in New Mexico all
throughout the Rocky Mountains. And the calculation here from the
Waltons and the ownership group is, and it's the right one,
that this team is so iconic, it is such a
brand that sells itself that they can afford to finance
large part, maybe almost entirely, this project themselves, and they
will see a return on that investment because the fans

(32:28):
of the Broncos are going to support it. They're going
to sell out every game, They're going to buy all
the merchandise, they're going to talgate They're going to support
this team. I mean, this is a way of life
here in Colorado. And I say that as a Lions fan.
As big as the Lions are in Detroit, and they
are big, the Broncos is just.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Another level here when you compare it.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
You know, all due respect to the Nuggets, the Avalanche,
the Rockies, this is Broncos country.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I mean, period, That's what it is.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
There's a huge gap between the Broncos and any one
of those other three teams that I mentioned, although I
do follow them all here in the Denver mark your
thoughts on at five seven seventy three nine. We'll get
to your texts. And O'Shannon works on that side of
the aisle as well. A lot want to get his
thoughts coming back after this last time out in our
number one plenty stild to get to and remember Sheriff
Steve Reims, the Prosecutor George Brockler.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
They are tag.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Teaming for the Dan Kapel Show coming up at four.
You won't want to miss it. Right here in six
point thirty K and now everybody's favorite Democratic Congress with
another edition of based Fetterman.

Speaker 9 (33:32):
Side.

Speaker 10 (33:35):
I literally was in a former Communist Nation, and I
asked that. I said, some people in my party, some
of the lefties, are talking about socialism. Now, what do
you think. He's like, that's the worst thing ever. You're
going to need a reality check if you ever adopt
any of those things. You know, like you are morons.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Call it people in his own party lefties and moron's.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Thank god there's not more John Fetterman's in the Democratic Party.
They might actually win some elections. We have a not
Democrat in our studio right now. He's going to be
half of the jovial tandem along with George Brockler, co
hosting The Dan Kapla Show today. Sheriff Steve Reimswold County,
I don't think I could be more excited than I
am right now. For that.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'm glad you're excited.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
I'm a little nervous, and I like, if you get
in a car with a really bad driver, what this
is feeling?

Speaker 9 (34:28):
Like?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Oh man, I have.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
A feeling he's going to intentionally sabotage some things with you.
And he's got a little bit of some tricks up
his sleeve, you know what I mean. It's George. I mean,
I know if he's not intentional. He's just like a
walking disaster sometimes. Speaking of walking disasters, we're gonna localize
the subject that I opened today's show with, and that
was the murder of the Ukrainian woman who sought refuge

(34:53):
here in the United States in Charlotte and why Unfortunately,
with the laws that are on the books here in Colorado,
it may very well be coming to a city near
you in this state.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Sherif.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Steve Rheims was featured in a CBS for Colorado package.
We'll have that sound for you and more from him
when we come back on Ryan Schuling Live.
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