June 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Scott Jennings of CNN takes a timeout from dropping truth bombs on leftists to comment on President Trump dropping precision bombs on Iran's nuclear sites. What does the future hold for Israel and American interests in the Middle East?
Lora Thomas, former DougCo commissioner, opposed establishing 'home rule' in Douglas County from the outset. She joins Ryan (in for Ross) to discuss Douglas County voters agreeing with her overwhelmingly in Tuesday's special election (71.4-28.6%).
https://www.douglas.co.us/documents/2025-douglas-county-special-election-unofficial-results.pdf/
Lora Thomas, former DougCo commissioner, opposed establishing 'home rule' in Douglas County from the outset. She joins Ryan (in for Ross) to discuss Douglas County voters agreeing with her overwhelmingly in Tuesday's special election (71.4-28.6%).
https://www.douglas.co.us/documents/2025-douglas-county-special-election-unofficial-results.pdf/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They did call Schumer, and I know they talked to him,
and they tried to call Jeffries, who apparently didn't pick
up the phone.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
So I know some calls were made.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Look, one of the ways to keep things from leaking
is to not tell a bunch of people who leak.
And so you know, I'm sensitive to this. This is
a pretty sensitive operation. There was a lot of misdirection,
There was a lot of going on a close hold.
They and they called Schumer, and they tried to call Jefferies,
and they told the Republicans and look, we're not going
to debate this in an open committee hearing when we're
(00:28):
you know, on a tight time window. He got bombers
going one way, bomber's going another way. I mean, this
thing had to be held air tight. And that's what
they did, and it worked perfectly.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
And what do we get out of these complicts?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I mean, that's the bigger question.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Is like one thing doesn't have a nuclear weapon. That's
the one thing we.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Got to do.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We know that that's the big question tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Good to me.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Well, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
The worst time we've ever actually gone this far in
the past. I think they thought, well, you know, Americans
aren't strong enough or bold enough to actually come in
here and do something about it. We'll talk, they'll send
us pallets of cash whatever. In this case, we sent
Operation Midnight Hammer. It's the first time we've gone that far,
so maybe it will prove to be a de term
for the PEKI.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Thank god for Scott Jennings on CNN. He is on
that wall. We need him on that wall. We want
him on that wall. He did not order the code red,
but he stands in the breach against all those members
of the left of you hear and that clip alone,
that's just over a little over a minute, and he
joins us here on Ryan Shulding Live. We're thankful for
his time. Scott, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Hey, glad to hear your voice. Thanks for having me
and boy, that debate the other night was something else.
There were some there were some wild stuff said at
that particular table Florida. You didn't play it, and I don't.
I don't recommend you play it because you all have
like twenty five point less IQ.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
On your brain if you did. But man, alive, what
a night. That's that's the thing. What a night, Scott.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And there's so many different directions to go, and I'll
start right here, I guess, and that is, you know,
how do you insulate yourself from IQ deterior in the
wake of all of this.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You know, I recently converted to Buddhism. I get into
this like deep breathing. I go into like a trance,
and then I pop out, Yeah, do my thing now.
I look. You know, a lot of this has become
predictable because, as you know, the number one rule of
being a Democrat or a liberal or a progressive in
cable news right now is whatever Donald Trump is doing,
(02:22):
I have to oppose it, even if it's objectively a
good idea, such as taking away Iran's nuclear weapons. And
so the other night there we sat with people who
just couldn't admit, hey, good job, mister president. Occasionally the
right answer is you know what good idea, mister president.
Occasionally that's the right answer, and they just can't find it.
So they've become very predictable, and you know, you just
(02:44):
learn that that's what's coming and you've got to deal
with it.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Scott, the thing that I noticed, there's many things that
I noticed, but one of the top things that I
noticed in your interactions on this program are you are
sharpened steel, sharpened steel, you are ready for the fight.
You're the man in the arena. You're used to having
your ideas challenged on a nightly basis, including by the host.
And I don't be grudg'r this, Abby Phillip. But then
there are liberal panelists still bring in and you could tell,
(03:08):
I can tell that they're not used to having their
ideas challenged in an arena where people disagree with them.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
That's very accurate. I have learned and realized that some
of the people I encounter, I'm the only Republican. They
know I'm the only Republican they ever meet, or maybe
have ever met, or at least deal with on a
regular basis. It has happened repeatedly, or it is obvious
to me I am the only Republican. And so this
is where I credit CNN. We're actually having a debating show.
(03:36):
A lot of Cable is just five or six people
sitting around agreeing with each other, and it's pretty boring
and you don't learn any thing from that. I think
the arena, like you described it, is where we learn
more about ourselves. We learn about our arguments and we
learn who's right. And so I think CNN's done a
smart thing with this debating show. But you're exactly right.
A lot of these progressives they live in a bubble.
(03:58):
They live in a bubble. They couldn't tell you how
half or sixty percent or eighty percent of America season
he given issue because they live in these cultivated bubbles,
and once their ideas get pressure tested in a little debate,
you can see they fall apart.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Scott Jennings, author of A Revolution of Common Sense, How
Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization. This
is a smart thing, I think, Scott. But I'm biased.
I'm a big fan of yours and in your corner.
But it looks like to me, correct me if I'm wrong.
The book has been moved up for its release date
from early December to November eighteenth, Is that right?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
We are feverishly working to finish it and in fact,
a little nugget for you, yeah. I conducted the last
interview for the book last night with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant.
I went to the Treasury Department and talked to the
Secretary of the Treasury and who I think is doing
a phenomenal job, and he is just one of several
people in the administration I had access to which I
(04:52):
think will provide some great insights for the book. You know,
writing a book is hard because you write it now
and then it comes out several months from now. So
the challenge just you know, things will happen between now
and then. But you know, I think in the first
hundred days, it's hard to argue that the two most
consequential figures we're not other than Trump. We're not Bessent
and Rubio, who I think were inspired picks and so
(05:13):
talking to Bestnt last night was great and he's got,
frankly a lot of optimism about President Trump's big beautiful
bill being passed by July fourth. But he was a
great chat last night.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well, this will be a very fresh book when it
comes out, As Scott just articulated, he's still working on it,
putting final interviews, final touches on it. So I'm going
to ask you a question here, Scott, in terms of
where you're at in percentage basis of finishing the book,
is it ninety ninety.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Five percent finish? How would you characterize that?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh, ninety five. Yeah, I'm other than talking to bestent.
I'm in copy ed it's right now with the publisher
and I'll have those done by early July. And at
that point it's pretty much done. They start the manufacturing process,
and then at some point I'll go into a studio
and record the audio version and then and yeah, you
can pre order it as you mentioned on Amazon or
where you get your favorite books, and it'll come out
(06:06):
November eighteenth, in time to make an amazing Christmas gift.
So you know, you should get a revolution of common sense.
That's my advice.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
He's the author, Scott Jennings, and of course he's the
author of Owning the Libs on a nightly basis on CNN,
and we're so glad that he's there. This is something
I was talking about with Shannon, my producer, who you
had a brief conversation with before coming on with me
on our morning programming over here in Denver on KOA.
And I don't mean to call them out by name,
but I'm going to they're really focused, hyper focused, Scott,
(06:35):
and I think you encountered this as well on this
particular detail of the Intel report and who leaked and
was it a complete success or did it only set
Iran's nuclear program back by a few months. And then
we saw kind of a reaffirmation of this by Representative
Jason Crowe sixth Congressional District right here in Colorado on
(06:55):
with Kate Baldwin of CNN saying this. He appeared to
back off a little bit. So let's listen to him here.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I'm out.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I think Donald Trump has a long history of distorting
intelligence and saying things that are not corroborated by the
truth and the reality. So you know, we are going
to see in the weeks to come what actually the
truth is. But right now, you know, let's not take
our eyes off the ball that this strike was an unauthorized,
(07:21):
unconstitutional strike, that he is pulling the United States into
yet another Middle Eastern conflict.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The Americans have no appetite for.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
America does not want to spend more time, more blood,
more treasure fighting them in the Middle East. And that's
why he went around, He skirted around Congress because he
didn't want to actually have that debate.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Scott, that was only thirty nine seconds, But there's so
much to pull away from that. I'm going to try
to bullet point it, and for Representative Jason Crowe, he
at least allowed the daylight of Hey, we're going to
see in the weeks to come how much damage was
inflicted on the Iran nuclear program. That's a different song
from a different book than we've been hearing since the
outset that this is only setting back the months, but
(08:01):
this whole notion of it being unconstitutional. We haven't had
a formal declaration of war authorized by Congress in eighty
three years since World War Two, not Vietnam, not Korea,
not the Persian Gulf War, not the War on Terror,
not the War.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
In Iraq, none of those.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
And so an individual president as commander in chief making
a decision on a military strike. How about Barack Obama
deciding to go in and kill Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That was a good one.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I don't know that he had the authorization of Congress
to do that, though, Scott.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, he Coppolibya right attack in Syria. I mean, you know, look,
the reality is it's not a war. We had a
targeted strike, and it is you know, we've decided in
this country that our commander in chief has the ability
if it's in the best interest of American national security
in the moment to take action, and how can you
argue that it wasn't in our best interest. You know,
(08:51):
Iran had been pummeled by Israel, they had no air defenses,
They couldn't even detect that our b two bombers were
in the sky, never got a shot off. What he's
talking about American blood. No American blood was spilled in this.
I mean, I think that Democrats are trying to create
a sort of an alternate reality here where we've got
ground troops in the Middle East. We don't. We had
one singular mission designed to do one thing, set back
(09:14):
or destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities. We obviously did that, and
so you know, look again, this is the law of
if Donald Trump did it, we must oppose it. And
I don't agree with him. I think the American people
are going to look at a commander in chief here
and say, well, he did a singular strike, got in,
got out, We're not committed to anything in the long term,
and he's trying to broke her peace. I think people
(09:35):
are going to support that versus some adventurism, which he's
not going to do. So I think the Democrats are
going to regret reflectively opposing this? What was the what's
the alternative? Let the death to America? Butcher's get a
nuclear weapon? Is that what the Democrats position is? If so,
feel free to run on it, But I don't think
it's going to be too popular.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Scott Jennings and joining us here again, it's every action
that Trump takes draws an equal and opposite reaction, even
if that reaction doesn't make any sense, Like we've talked
about here, setting the nuclear program of Ron back just
a few months, that's still something. Is that a reason
to spike the football?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm not so sure. And then we had this today, Scott.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I'm not sure if you've even commented on this yet
on CNN, but the NATO Secretary General making a passing
comment to Trump about, you know, coming home, daddy's home.
The two kids are fighting Israel, Iran. He's got to
straighten things out.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Stuff about the intelligence. This is what a leaker is
telling you.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
I mean, we may do papers on it, Marco, maybe
we're going to do tapers.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I don't even know if you anatu. They're not going
to be fighting each other.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
They've had it.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
They've had a big fight, like two kids at a schoolyard.
You know, they fight like hell, you can't stop them.
Let him fight for about two.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Three minutes that it's easy to stop them.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And then daddy has sometimes language school. Everyone's saying you
have to use a certain words.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And then right, his reign predictable as it is. The
media on site there at this NATO summer picks up
on that comment made by the NATO Secretary General calling
Trump daddy in this circumstance.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Mark Rita, the NATO chief, who is your friend? He
called you daddy earlier? Do you regard your NATO allies
as kind of children?
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Now he likes me.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let
you know. I'll come back and I'll hit him hard. Okay,
he did. He did it very affectionate. Daddy here my daddy.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So President Trump had some fun with it, Scott. But
the reporter gets it wrong too. He wasn't referring Mark Rute,
the NATO Secretary General, to the other members of NATO.
He's referring to Iran and Israel. When Trump came in,
he was not pleased that the ceasefire had been violated.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Right, That's exactly right, and look at what Trump is
trying to do. He's trying to create peace. And look,
I think Israel is fully justified in what they've done
in the aftermath of October the seventh, not just fighting
the Iranian proxies, the terror proxies like Hamas and Hesba
and the Hohothia rebels, also in going ahead and taking
care of Iran. They have pummeled Iran. They took out
(12:05):
their senior military leadership, they took out their nuclear scientists,
They've helped us destroy their nuclear capabilities. This is all
fully justified. But Trump's impulse says, Okay, you've done what
you need to do here, let's have peace, let's not
destabilize the region. And now I guess they're going to
have a negotiation or a meeting next week to figure
out what to do from here. But it takes someone
(12:27):
strong like Donald Trump in a big country like the
United States to set that agenda. And that's all he
was saying. And it was funny in the moment, but
the reality is, if you don't have a strong American
president to try to set the terms of how to
move forward with peace, you might not have any And
so Trump's a peacemaker. I believe that, and I think
if he gets the peace deal between Israel and Iran,
(12:49):
and the decision he made to take out their nuclear
capabilities on top of it, and the Abraham Accords and
the extension and expansion the Abraham Accords, there is no
doubt in my mind he deserves and already has deserved,
the Nobel Peace Prize. They should give it to him.
No American president in recent memory has done as much
to bring peace and try to bring peace as Donald Trump.
They should have given it to him before. He deserves it. Now.
(13:11):
I know there'll be a hue and cry over it,
but can you deny it? Can you deny it? The
man is doing it. He's doing it for us.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Scott Jennings. You can watch him on a week nightly
basis on CNN. He's also the author of a Revolution
of Common Sense. That publishing data has been moved up
to November eighteenth of this year, as he mentioned, Great
Christmas Present. You can order it ahead of time on
Amazon or your favorite bookstore or online platform. Is something
that John Carey, former Secretary of State, former senator, former
(13:38):
Democrat nominee for president, said in an interview on your
network CNN Scott with Christian Ahman for there's so many
things that stood out to me.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
He basically said, hey, Iron's a proud nation.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, they're hell bent on Israel's destruction fact check true.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, they've developed a.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Bomb in nineteen ninety one, and yet we're still going
to negotiate a deal with them in the Obama administration
that allows them access to nuclear power. Here's a comment
a clip from that. I'll get your response on the
other side.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
You know, we had a lot of choices we had
the back then. In fact, this bomb was developed some
time ago, back in nineteen ninety one and then refined,
has been used since. But the fact is that we
have other options available to us.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We came.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
I mean, the model of what happened with the prior
agreement is really a significant marker for what needs to
happen now.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
He would go on to say Scott that, look, we
weren't comfortable with the fact that they support Humas, they
support Hezballah, they support the Hoothy rebels, they fund terrorism,
but we're still going to send them palettes of cash
and give them breathing room to explore this nuclear program.
When they sit upon some of the most rich oil
reserves on the planet and made no sense. It makes
(14:55):
no sense. It'll never make sense to me. Please make
sense of it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Well, this is the sort of the old way of
thinking about how to deal with this, and it failed.
It failed. I mean, these guys have been the Death
to America crowd since nineteen seventy nine. They've murdered Americans,
They've murdered American soldiers. They funded and supported terrorists who
come after Americans all over the world. They've been at
war with us since the Malus came to power. And
(15:21):
the reaction to that from some in Washington, particularly on
the Democratic side, was to try to bribe them and
appease them and say, well, we've changed them. We did
not change them. Despite all of that, over all those years,
they were still enriching uranium at rates far beyond what
you would need for nuclear energy. So it just doesn't work.
It doesn't work. They're not a normal country. They don't
(15:43):
have a normal ideology. Their ideology is get a nuclear bomb,
destroy Israel, destroy America, bring.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
About the end of the world.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That is their ideology. And you think negotiating with them
and appeasing them and sending them money is going to
change those ambitions. It's just not realistic. Trump lives in
the reality that we see on television. They're the ones
who fund Jimas, They're the ones who prop up Hesbula.
They're the ones who are constantly destabilizing the world. They're
not trying to be better, they're not trying to reform.
(16:13):
There's only one thing you do. Take away their nuclear weapons,
pummel them the way Israel has, and then you go
to the table and say, Okay, now let's talk. And
that's the strategic position we want to be in. So
I think Trump's the only American president that actually is
dealing with reality and not the fantasy land foreign policy
that you heard John Kerry talking about.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeah, follow him on exit, Scott jennings Ky the K
Why's for Kentucky And I'm going to tap into your
knowledge of Kentucky politics.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Scott.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
We have a mutual friend, Leland Conway. I've spoken to
him about the history of Kentucky politics. What makes it unique.
It's extremely unique. They just elected Andy Bashir to a
second term as governor a Democrat. You have an establishment
Republican that for years has drawn the ire of some
in the conservative circles, and Mitch McConnell. You've got two libertarians,
one in the Senate, Ran Paul I'm a big fan
(17:01):
of his, and Thomas Massey in the House. Who could
be a candidate to replacement McConnell. I'll get your thoughts
on any other side. But Thomas Massey taking some heat
from the President himself and some ex posts and maybe
from some colleagues as well, because he's opposed the strikes
in Iran on his principal basis about avoiding foreign intervention,
and he's against the big beautiful Bill. So President Trump
(17:23):
says we're going to primary him, We're gonna find somebody
to run against him.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And here's what Representative Massey had to say. It's going
to be a hell of a fight.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
I mean, I've never got less than seventy five percent
in any of my primaries. I'm not saying that's going
to be the case this time. I'll probably have millions
and millions of dollars spent against me.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
They still haven't.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Found a candidate yet who wants to try this, and
trust me, they're searching hard in my district. Eventually they'll
find some schmuck to be in the TV commercials, who
has no record whatsoever, and they'll try to make him
out to be the next Ronald Reagan or something.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Now, Scott, my colleague Dan Kaplis's adamant. He wants you
to for sanity, wants you to run for president. You've
kind of ruled that out. But I think Thomas Massey
would be a strong candidate. What's his appeal in Kentucky?
Can he be primary? Because from the outside looking in,
I'm not from Kentucky, it doesn't look like that's a
good idea.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, it's true. He has faced some primaries and he's
always prevailed. Trump was upset with him a few terms ago.
And although Trump came out against Massey, he never really
endorsed in any opponent. This time is different. I'll just
tell you. I mean, my sources tell me the White
House is very focused on this. The President's personally focused
on it. There'll be unlimited resources for whoever they can find.
(18:35):
Finding a candidate is the thing, and Matthew's right. They
are looking to try to find someone credible to run
against him. Kentucky are interesting. You know the same people
who elect McConnell and Trump also elect Massey and Ran.
I mean, we do have this interesting libertarian contrarian street
in US here in Kentucky, which leads us to cast
you some interesting votes. Matthew's got a pretty strong brand
(18:59):
in the district, but you know, he's never really faced
the full wrath of Donald Trump, which in Kentucky is
a pretty strong brand in the Republican Party. I think
a lot of this is going to depend on whether
they find a credible candidate to run against them. And
if they do, as I said, they'll have unlimited resources,
and with a good candidate and money, you could do
things in politics. But I wouldn't underestimate Mancy. He'll be
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hard to beat. The filing deadline is in early January,
and then the Republican primary is in May, so all
this will come to a head in the next few months.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
And despite disagreements, I'm a big fan of him personally.
I think he's a man of integrity and character, and
I like that he fights for a smaller budget in Washington.
The book A Revolution of Common Sense, How Donald Trump
stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization. It's author Scott Jennings.
You can watch him every night on CNN. Scott always
have fun with our conversations. Thank you so much for
taking the time. We'll talk again down the line.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Thank you, brother, talk soon.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
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Speaker 2 (22:15):
Joining us now.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
She is the former Doug Co commissioner who was opposed
to establishing home rule in Douglas County. That vote going
down last night and going down in Flames by a
number resembling I don't know something that would be almost
unanimous in a county that leans read seventy one twenty nine.
Laura Thomas, our guest, Laura, thank you so much for
your time, first of all, and secondly, is that margin
(22:39):
surprising to you? Seventy one to twenty nine?
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Hey, Ryan, thanks for the opportunity to be on the radio.
So I didn't want to tempt fate yesterday and predict
that we were going to win, but I knew from
talking to people and watching social media and interacting with
the public that they were disgusted by what these commissioners
were trying to do, that they were trying to slip
something past them and steam roll the public by doing
(23:04):
this so quickly behind closed doors. So I am so
pleased that almost thirty percent of the voters showed up
yesterday for a summer off term election, and I think
they sent a huge repudiation not only to the commissioners
but to the Douglas County Republican Party.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Other items on the ballot it says home ruled, Charter
Commission at large for District one, for District two, District three.
Pardon my ignorance on this, but the fact that home
rule gets voted down entirely. Are those other selections now
moot or is there still going to be a commission formed?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
That's a great question. It's a moot. It's moot now
because the voter said, Nope, we don't want to do this.
So that means the Charter Commission will not be engaging.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
And further that point, Lord Thomas joining us, I'm just
looking at the results and they kind of speak for themselves.
The numbers, not just the one I mentioned, but for
the at large spot on the Home Rule Charter Commission.
Here we have the chair of the Board of Commissioners
Douglas County, George Teele, who I also interviewed on this subject.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Along with you on either side of this.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
He was lagging well behind a vote for three, it says,
and his vote total was a distant fifth on this list.
So even if they had formed the commission, he was
not going to qualify in those top three.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
What does that number tell you?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
That number should tell the commissioners that the public doesn't
want any part of this. They just want the commissioners
to govern for the people that elected them, that represented them,
and that public does not want any part of this
nonsense of home rule, especially the way they snuck around
behind closed doors and tried to shove this down the
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voter's throps.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Laura, it's not that you were opposed to the concept
of their being more independence when it comes to Douglas
County and making its own decisions, but you just didn't
grant the premise that this home rule vote was going
to amount too much in that regard. So, with that knowledge,
with that basis, with that platform, and how the voters
turned out in such large numbers against it, where does
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it go from here? You've talked about this before, but
what would be a more effective means for voters in
Douglas County to go about getting more self determination.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
In their county.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Well, I don't know that there's any way that we
can just in fact, there's no way that we can
just say we're not going to follow these state laws.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
We have to follow state laws, and if we don't
like the state laws that are coming down, then the
Republicans need to work on getting candidates that can win,
and when we can win elections, we can govern.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Laura Thomas, she is a former member of the Douglas
County Board of Commissioners, and she came out rather forcefully
against this issue of home rule, and it went down
to the feet, as I mentioned, by a vote of
seventy one to twenty nine. I was looking at this
maybe it was like you said, you didn't want to
jinx the outcome, Laura. I get that, but that it
was probably going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of
fifty five to forty five either way, and was.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Will in excess of that.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So this kind of method of getting the information out
to the public, as you mentioned, this is an off year,
off season election, it's the middle of summer. Getting people
to turn out. That's a difficult kind of road to hoe.
And yet, like you said, you were effectively able to
get this message delivered to the people of Douglas County.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
What do you attribute that to.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I mean, maybe an interview like this one and other
radio hits that you've done, But how was that message
able to get out and how were the voters able
to respond to it in time?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Ryan, I've been involved in Douglas County politics for twenty
years and what I have learned is that it's one
on one communication, meeting with people, communicating with them somehow.
I was very active on nextdoor, on Facebook. I did
my newsletter three or four times a week, reaching out
to people, and I was part of a large, non
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partisan group of people who came together and said, hell no,
we are not going to let the commissioners ruin our
county with this nonsense. And there was a lot of
door knocking, there was testing, there was mailing, and we
had the facts on our side. That's how we were
able to do this.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Laura, you mentioned in this Facebook post about how there
was basically an end around and you touched on that
as we began our conversation here, and that it wasn't
so much about home rule the issue like surface level.
And when I look at it and I talked to
you about this before knee jerk reaction, I would be, well,
if so and so was against this, well, therefore I
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default to being in favor of it. But you looked
under the hood, you got into the devil of the
details here and what you're suggesting here. I mean, this
is pretty strong language review that it was a phony
sales pitch, that these individuals like George Teele were looking
out for their own self interests to what end? What
was in your mind the motivation behind this other than
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just that surface level home rule. Hey, we're looking for
self determination for Douglas County and to not follow state
laws that we don't like.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Thank well, that whole thing not following state laws was
all subterfuge. What we need to remember this is the
fact that the commissioners and their inside cronies were sneaking
around for months before the commissioners bothered to tell the
public that this was going to be an election. Yesterday
on June twenty fourth, there were supporters that filed paperwork
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with the Secretary of State at the exact same time
the commissioners were putting this on the ballot, And so
it was that those insiders that I believe were going
to benefit from home rule in the long run. I
can't prove what they were up to, but if the
commissioners really wanted to do this for the public, they
would have had several meetings with the public and engaged
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with us before they put this on the ballot. But
they didn't do it. So any reasonable person would say, hmm,
there's something else going on here, and that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Or Thomas joining us.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
She's a former Douglas County commissioner and she came out
publicly against this home rule initiative.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Laura, you didn't have to do this.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
You chose this, and you chose this battle knowing that
it would cost a tremendous amount for you personally in
terms of political capital. I'm sure you've taken more than
your fair share of slings and arrows from people that
would ostensibly be right of center on the political spectrum.
And I guess my question for you is is it
worth it? The outcome of this is their vindication in
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that and for you personally, I know you're not doing
it necessarily for those means, But what does this mean
for your future in the Republican Party if there.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Is one, Well, I think you just hit the nail
on the head. The future of the Republican Party is
what we're talking about. Look, I was a major with
the State Patrol and during when I bought my house
in Highland's Ranch because I knew I wanted to spend
the rest of my life here. I love this county.
It is beautiful, that people are amazing. There's no other
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place I want to live and home rule would have
changed that in a bad way. And so my husband
and myself and my friends helped me over the last
ninety days to educate the public about why they needed
to say no to home rule. And they did that.
So it's a new day, and let's hope that the
commissioners heard the message, they answered the phone call, and
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they don't do this again.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, it was a dramatic and emphatic victory for Laura
Thomas in her side opposing home rule in Douglas County.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Again.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
It goes down by a margin of seventy one twenty
nine an eye opener, to say the least, and Laura
Thomas a driving force behind defeating it. Laura, congratulations on
this political victory. We thank you for your time and
I look forward to our next conversation.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Hey, thank you again. This was a win for the
citizens and there were there was an army with me.
I didn't do this.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Laura Thomas.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
We appreciate her and she's always been good to me
and joining me and providing us with her time today.
And whether you live in Douglas County or not, getting
your response is.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Top priority right now. At five seven seven three nine,
voting down home rule, This was like a seventy one
twenty nine vote.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
As I stated, it was emphatic, it was dramatic, and
it was resounding.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Do you support home rule in Douglas County?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Were you surprised that it went down to defeat at
such a stark margin or are you with Laura Thomas
on this and saying this was not a good solution
to a problem that we know that we have, but
we're looking for more effective means to combat those laws
in this state that we do not like. Five seven
seventy three nine, Those texts wrapping it up for hour
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number one. We'd come back after this what an hour
and we're just getting started, folks, counting down to halftime.
Here Shannon Scott alongside the Detroit Connection re establish lots
of kinetic energy. We go Tesla here, ac not Edison,
DC told you that story. So my great aunt Zora
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came over from Serbia to visit Michigan and there we
have not Greenwood Village, but Greenfield Village.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Jenna knows what I'm talking about. Over there, and they.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Have this entire display and all these artifacts dedicated to
honoring the great Thomas Edison.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
But what did he do? According to us serbs, this
is what he did.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
And if you watch some of these documentaries, they say
it too. Thomas Edison had this whole theory on electricity
based on DC direct current Tesla Nicola, Tesla not Nicola.
It's not Nicola. Yokitch Okay, it's Nicola, all right. Now
take it from a Serb I know, ask him, he'll say,
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Ryan's right. Anyway, Tesla had a very diverse theory, a
much more complicated area of alternating current, so that there
wasn't these power surges that would evolve. And then of
course that evolved in the band ac DC for both
of them. But unfortunately Tesla had the wrong backers betting
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on him as a horse, and that was Westinghouse and
they would eventually sell him out to what would become
General Electric and all the patents that went with it,
including alternating current. So when my great aunt Zora came
through the Thomas Edison display and my dad was walking
her through it in her very broken English, she just
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scoffed at it.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Tesla invented all of this, and she's right to my
late great aunt za finishing.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Out with your tax five seventy seven three nine, Ryan,
I don't live in doug Coe, but I never heard
what was bad about it, meaning the home rule vote
which was voted down seventy one twenty nine last night
in a special election.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Continue with the text. I did hear that it was.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Not the same as well, not much else, well the
nuts and bolts of it as I understood it, and
I don't live in doug Coo either. Was that for
somebody like George Teal, the unjustified the means of look,
we want home rule, we want this as a precedent,
we want to establish some level of self determination. Independence
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from state laws that we might disagree with and give
us a platform to isolate ourselves as Douglas County and
empower ourselves along those lines. Representative Brandy Bradley came out
in favor of it as well. I think George Brockler
was in favor of it, but Laura Thomas, also a Republican,
opposed it along with many Democrats. She took a lot
of heat for that, but her reasoning was more along
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the lines of a realistic approach, saying, Okay, I get
what you want to do, but this is not the
way to do it. It will not be effective, it
will create more problems than it solves, and there's some
level of underhanded dealing going on here from George Teele
and others that want to secure and you sert more
power for themselves selfishly, Julie then merely doing it for the.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Good of the people. So that's what I understood.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Douglas County voters agreed with Laura Thomas, and they voted
it down dramatically. Ryan great segment with Scott Jennings a
voice of reason and truth, just like you, Steven Lyttleton.
I take that as an ultimate compliment and Shannon even
divulged him that he would help Scott Jennings bury a
body if it was so needed, and Scott just might
take him up on the offer, just saying that was discussed.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Ryan, this is the same.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Democratic Party to try to tell us that Iran retaliated
with a devastating attack on our air base and Katar
the left hundreds of soldiers dead.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Did they say that?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I know that they were hit to that groove and
they were hot to trot and wanting to report that
what they want to report. And this is the way
that you can watch the news. Again, this is critiquing
mass media five o one. It's a graduate level class
yours truly at the Helm as the professor. I took
that class in college, and I'm delivering.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It to you.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Is that any news that makes Trump look bad, they
are going to seize upon it. They're going to amplify it.
I mentioned the example of our KOA morning program over there.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That's what happened.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
And then if there's good news for Trump or there's
inconvenient news for the left, like a story you'll hear
about an hour two on this program, suddenly that goes
unnoticed or overlooked or not covered. We're going to talk
about Camp Idra Hadgie in our number two with Valiel
and a big decision.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It wasn't a decision so much as a settlement.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
In which Idra Hadgie gets to keep its religious autonomy.
It's liberty and saying that it does not adhere to
the transgender identity of individuals that might be attending their camp.
Lots more to come our number two stick and set
They did call Schumer, and I know they talked to him,
and they tried to call Jeffries, who apparently didn't pick
up the phone.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
So I know some calls were made.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Look, one of the ways to keep things from leaking
is to not tell a bunch of people who leak.
And so you know, I'm sensitive to this. This is
a pretty sensitive operation. There was a lot of misdirection,
There was a lot of going on a close hold.
They and they called Schumer, and they tried to call Jefferies,
and they told the Republicans and look, we're not going
to debate this in an open committee hearing when we're
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you know, on a tight time window. He got bombers
going one way, bomber's going another way. I mean, this
thing had to be held air tight. And that's what
they did, and it worked perfectly.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
And what do we get out of these complicts?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I mean, that's the bigger question.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Is like one thing doesn't have a nuclear weapon. That's
the one thing we.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Got to do.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We know that that's the big question tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Good to me.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Well, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
The worst time we've ever actually gone this far in
the past. I think they thought, well, you know, Americans
aren't strong enough or bold enough to actually come in
here and do something about it. We'll talk, they'll send
us pallets of cash whatever. In this case, we sent
Operation Midnight Hammer. It's the first time we've gone that far,
so maybe it will prove to be a de term
for the PEKI.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Thank god for Scott Jennings on CNN. He is on
that wall. We need him on that wall. We want
him on that wall. He did not order the code red,
but he stands in the breach against all those members
of the left of you hear and that clip alone,
that's just over a little over a minute, and he
joins us here on Ryan Shulding Live. We're thankful for
his time. Scott, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Hey, glad to hear your voice. Thanks for having me
and boy, that debate the other night was something else.
There were some there were some wild stuff said at
that particular table Florida. You didn't play it, and I don't.
I don't recommend you play it because you all have
like twenty five point less IQ.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
On your brain if you did. But man, alive, what
a night. That's that's the thing. What a night, Scott.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
And there's so many different directions to go, and I'll
start right here, I guess, and that is, you know,
how do you insulate yourself from IQ deterior in the
wake of all of this.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You know, I recently converted to Buddhism. I get into
this like deep breathing. I go into like a trance,
and then I pop out, Yeah, do my thing now.
I look. You know, a lot of this has become
predictable because, as you know, the number one rule of
being a Democrat or a liberal or a progressive in
cable news right now is whatever Donald Trump is doing,
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I have to oppose it, even if it's objectively a
good idea, such as taking away Iran's nuclear weapons. And
so the other night there we sat with people who
just couldn't admit, hey, good job, mister president. Occasionally the
right answer is you know what good idea, mister president.
Occasionally that's the right answer, and they just can't find it.
So they've become very predictable, and you know, you just
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learn that that's what's coming and you've got to deal
with it.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Scott, the thing that I noticed, there's many things that
I noticed, but one of the top things that I
noticed in your interactions on this program are you are
sharpened steel, sharpened steel, you are ready for the fight.
You're the man in the arena. You're used to having
your ideas challenged on a nightly basis, including by the host.
And I don't be grudg'r this, Abby Phillip. But then
there are liberal panelists still bring in and you could tell,
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I can tell that they're not used to having their
ideas challenged in an arena where people disagree with them.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Is that accurate?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
That's very accurate. I have learned and realized that some
of the people I encounter, I'm the only Republican. They
know I'm the only Republican they ever meet, or maybe
have ever met, or at least deal with on a
regular basis. It has happened repeatedly, or it is obvious
to me I am the only Republican. And so this
is where I credit CNN. We're actually having a debating show.
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A lot of Cable is just five or six people
sitting around agreeing with each other, and it's pretty boring
and you don't learn any thing from that. I think
the arena, like you described it, is where we learn
more about ourselves. We learn about our arguments and we
learn who's right. And so I think CNN's done a
smart thing with this debating show. But you're exactly right.
A lot of these progressives they live in a bubble.
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They live in a bubble. They couldn't tell you how
half or sixty percent or eighty percent of America season
he given issue because they live in these cultivated bubbles,
and once their ideas get pressure tested in a little debate,
you can see they fall apart.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Scott Jennings, author of A Revolution of Common Sense, How
Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization. This
is a smart thing, I think, Scott. But I'm biased.
I'm a big fan of yours and in your corner.
But it looks like to me, correct me if I'm wrong.
The book has been moved up for its release date
from early December to November eighteenth, Is that right?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
We are feverishly working to finish it and in fact,
a little nugget for you, yeah. I conducted the last
interview for the book last night with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant.
I went to the Treasury Department and talked to the
Secretary of the Treasury and who I think is doing
a phenomenal job, and he is just one of several
people in the administration I had access to which I
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think will provide some great insights for the book. You know,
writing a book is hard because you write it now
and then it comes out several months from now. So
the challenge just you know, things will happen between now
and then. But you know, I think in the first
hundred days, it's hard to argue that the two most
consequential figures we're not other than Trump. We're not Bessent
and Rubio, who I think were inspired picks and so
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talking to Bestnt last night was great and he's got,
frankly a lot of optimism about President Trump's big beautiful
bill being passed by July fourth. But he was a
great chat last night.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well, this will be a very fresh book when it
comes out, As Scott just articulated, he's still working on it,
putting final interviews, final touches on it. So I'm going
to ask you a question here, Scott, in terms of
where you're at in percentage basis of finishing the book,
is it ninety ninety.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Five percent finish? How would you characterize that?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh, ninety five. Yeah, I'm other than talking to bestent.
I'm in copy ed it's right now with the publisher
and I'll have those done by early July. And at
that point it's pretty much done. They start the manufacturing process,
and then at some point I'll go into a studio
and record the audio version and then and yeah, you
can pre order it as you mentioned on Amazon or
where you get your favorite books, and it'll come out
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November eighteenth, in time to make an amazing Christmas gift.
So you know, you should get a revolution of common sense.
That's my advice.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
He's the author, Scott Jennings, and of course he's the
author of Owning the Libs on a nightly basis on CNN,
and we're so glad that he's there. This is something
I was talking about with Shannon, my producer, who you
had a brief conversation with before coming on with me
on our morning programming over here in Denver on KOA.
And I don't mean to call them out by name,
but I'm going to they're really focused, hyper focused, Scott,
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and I think you encountered this as well on this
particular detail of the Intel report and who leaked and
was it a complete success or did it only set
Iran's nuclear program back by a few months. And then
we saw kind of a reaffirmation of this by Representative
Jason Crowe sixth Congressional District right here in Colorado on
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with Kate Baldwin of CNN saying this. He appeared to
back off a little bit. So let's listen to him here.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I'm out.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I think Donald Trump has a long history of distorting
intelligence and saying things that are not corroborated by the
truth and the reality. So you know, we are going
to see in the weeks to come what actually the
truth is. But right now, you know, let's not take
our eyes off the ball that this strike was an unauthorized,
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unconstitutional strike, that he is pulling the United States into
yet another Middle Eastern conflict.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The Americans have no appetite for.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
America does not want to spend more time, more blood,
more treasure fighting them in the Middle East. And that's
why he went around, He skirted around Congress because he
didn't want to actually have that debate.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Scott, that was only thirty nine seconds, But there's so
much to pull away from that. I'm going to try
to bullet point it, and for Representative Jason Crowe, he
at least allowed the daylight of Hey, we're going to
see in the weeks to come how much damage was
inflicted on the Iran nuclear program. That's a different song
from a different book than we've been hearing since the
outset that this is only setting back the months, but
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this whole notion of it being unconstitutional. We haven't had
a formal declaration of war authorized by Congress in eighty
three years since World War Two, not Vietnam, not Korea,
not the Persian Gulf War, not the War on Terror,
not the War.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
In Iraq, none of those.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
And so an individual president as commander in chief making
a decision on a military strike. How about Barack Obama
deciding to go in and kill Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That was a good one.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I don't know that he had the authorization of Congress
to do that, though, Scott.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, he Coppolibya right attack in Syria. I mean, you know, look,
the reality is it's not a war. We had a
targeted strike, and it is you know, we've decided in
this country that our commander in chief has the ability
if it's in the best interest of American national security
in the moment to take action, and how can you
argue that it wasn't in our best interest. You know,
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Iran had been pummeled by Israel, they had no air defenses,
They couldn't even detect that our b two bombers were
in the sky, never got a shot off. What he's
talking about American blood. No American blood was spilled in this.
I mean, I think that Democrats are trying to create
a sort of an alternate reality here where we've got
ground troops in the Middle East. We don't. We had
one singular mission designed to do one thing, set back
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or destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities. We obviously did that, and
so you know, look again, this is the law of
if Donald Trump did it, we must oppose it. And
I don't agree with him. I think the American people
are going to look at a commander in chief here
and say, well, he did a singular strike, got in,
got out, We're not committed to anything in the long term,
and he's trying to broke her peace. I think people
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are going to support that versus some adventurism, which he's
not going to do. So I think the Democrats are
going to regret reflectively opposing this? What was the what's
the alternative? Let the death to America? Butcher's get a
nuclear weapon? Is that what the Democrats position is? If so,
feel free to run on it, But I don't think
it's going to be too popular.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Scott Jennings and joining us here again, it's every action
that Trump takes draws an equal and opposite reaction, even
if that reaction doesn't make any sense, Like we've talked
about here, setting the nuclear program of Ron back just
a few months, that's still something. Is that a reason
to spike the football?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I'm not so sure. And then we had this today, Scott.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I'm not sure if you've even commented on this yet
on CNN, but the NATO Secretary General making a passing
comment to Trump about, you know, coming home, daddy's home.
The two kids are fighting Israel, Iran. He's got to
straighten things out.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Stuff about the intelligence. This is what a leaker is
telling you.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
I mean, we may do papers on it, Marco, maybe
we're going to do tapers.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I don't even know if you anatu. They're not going
to be fighting each other.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
They've had it.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
They've had a big fight, like two kids at a schoolyard.
You know, they fight like hell, you can't stop them.
Let him fight for about two.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Three minutes that it's easy to stop them.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And then daddy has sometimes language school. Everyone's saying you
have to use a certain words.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
And then right, his reign predictable as it is. The
media on site there at this NATO summer picks up
on that comment made by the NATO Secretary General calling
Trump daddy in this circumstance.
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Mark Rita, the NATO chief, who is your friend? He
called you daddy earlier? Do you regard your NATO allies
as kind of children?
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Now he likes me.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let
you know. I'll come back and I'll hit him hard. Okay,
he did. He did it very affectionate. Daddy here my daddy.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So President Trump had some fun with it, Scott. But
the reporter gets it wrong too. He wasn't referring Mark Rute,
the NATO Secretary General, to the other members of NATO.
He's referring to Iran and Israel. When Trump came in,
he was not pleased that the ceasefire had been violated.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Right, That's exactly right, and look at what Trump is
trying to do. He's trying to create peace. And look,
I think Israel is fully justified in what they've done
in the aftermath of October the seventh, not just fighting
the Iranian proxies, the terror proxies like Hamas and Hesba
and the Hohothia rebels, also in going ahead and taking
care of Iran. They have pummeled Iran. They took out
(12:05):
their senior military leadership, they took out their nuclear scientists,
They've helped us destroy their nuclear capabilities. This is all
fully justified. But Trump's impulse says, Okay, you've done what
you need to do here, let's have peace, let's not
destabilize the region. And now I guess they're going to
have a negotiation or a meeting next week to figure
out what to do from here. But it takes someone
(12:27):
strong like Donald Trump in a big country like the
United States to set that agenda. And that's all he
was saying. And it was funny in the moment, but
the reality is, if you don't have a strong American
president to try to set the terms of how to
move forward with peace, you might not have any And
so Trump's a peacemaker. I believe that, and I think
if he gets the peace deal between Israel and Iran,
(12:49):
and the decision he made to take out their nuclear
capabilities on top of it, and the Abraham Accords and
the extension and expansion the Abraham Accords, there is no
doubt in my mind he deserves and already has deserved,
the Nobel Peace Prize. They should give it to him.
No American president in recent memory has done as much
to bring peace and try to bring peace as Donald Trump.
They should have given it to him before. He deserves it. Now.
(13:11):
I know there'll be a hue and cry over it,
but can you deny it? Can you deny it? The
man is doing it. He's doing it for us.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Scott Jennings. You can watch him on a week nightly
basis on CNN. He's also the author of a Revolution
of Common Sense. That publishing data has been moved up
to November eighteenth of this year, as he mentioned, Great
Christmas Present. You can order it ahead of time on
Amazon or your favorite bookstore or online platform. Is something
that John Carey, former Secretary of State, former senator, former
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Democrat nominee for president, said in an interview on your
network CNN Scott with Christian Ahman for there's so many
things that stood out to me.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
He basically said, hey, Iron's a proud nation.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Yeah, they're hell bent on Israel's destruction fact check true.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, they've developed a.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Bomb in nineteen ninety one, and yet we're still going
to negotiate a deal with them in the Obama administration
that allows them access to nuclear power. Here's a comment
a clip from that. I'll get your response on the
other side.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
You know, we had a lot of choices we had
the back then. In fact, this bomb was developed some
time ago, back in nineteen ninety one and then refined,
has been used since. But the fact is that we
have other options available to us.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We came.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
I mean, the model of what happened with the prior
agreement is really a significant marker for what needs to
happen now.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
He would go on to say Scott that, look, we
weren't comfortable with the fact that they support Humas, they
support Hezballah, they support the Hoothy rebels, they fund terrorism,
but we're still going to send them palettes of cash
and give them breathing room to explore this nuclear program.
When they sit upon some of the most rich oil
reserves on the planet and made no sense. It makes
(14:55):
no sense. It'll never make sense to me. Please make
sense of it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Well, this is the sort of the old way of
thinking about how to deal with this, and it failed.
It failed. I mean, these guys have been the Death
to America crowd since nineteen seventy nine. They've murdered Americans,
They've murdered American soldiers. They funded and supported terrorists who
come after Americans all over the world. They've been at
war with us since the Malus came to power. And
(15:21):
the reaction to that from some in Washington, particularly on
the Democratic side, was to try to bribe them and
appease them and say, well, we've changed them. We did
not change them. Despite all of that, over all those years,
they were still enriching uranium at rates far beyond what
you would need for nuclear energy. So it just doesn't work.
It doesn't work. They're not a normal country. They don't
(15:43):
have a normal ideology. Their ideology is get a nuclear bomb,
destroy Israel, destroy America, bring.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
About the end of the world.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
That is their ideology. And you think negotiating with them
and appeasing them and sending them money is going to
change those ambitions. It's just not realistic. Trump lives in
the reality that we see on television. They're the ones
who fund Jimas, They're the ones who prop up Hesbula.
They're the ones who are constantly destabilizing the world. They're
not trying to be better, they're not trying to reform.
(16:13):
There's only one thing you do. Take away their nuclear weapons,
pummel them the way Israel has, and then you go
to the table and say, Okay, now let's talk. And
that's the strategic position we want to be in. So
I think Trump's the only American president that actually is
dealing with reality and not the fantasy land foreign policy
that you heard John Kerry talking about.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeah, follow him on exit, Scott jennings Ky the K
Why's for Kentucky And I'm going to tap into your
knowledge of Kentucky politics.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Scott.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
We have a mutual friend, Leland Conway. I've spoken to
him about the history of Kentucky politics. What makes it unique.
It's extremely unique. They just elected Andy Bashir to a
second term as governor a Democrat. You have an establishment
Republican that for years has drawn the ire of some
in the conservative circles, and Mitch McConnell. You've got two libertarians,
one in the Senate, Ran Paul I'm a big fan
(17:01):
of his, and Thomas Massey in the House. Who could
be a candidate to replacement McConnell. I'll get your thoughts
on any other side. But Thomas Massey taking some heat
from the President himself and some ex posts and maybe
from some colleagues as well, because he's opposed the strikes
in Iran on his principal basis about avoiding foreign intervention,
and he's against the big beautiful Bill. So President Trump
(17:23):
says we're going to primary him, We're gonna find somebody
to run against him.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And here's what Representative Massey had to say. It's going
to be a hell of a fight.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
I mean, I've never got less than seventy five percent
in any of my primaries. I'm not saying that's going
to be the case this time. I'll probably have millions
and millions of dollars spent against me.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
They still haven't.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
Found a candidate yet who wants to try this, and
trust me, they're searching hard in my district. Eventually they'll
find some schmuck to be in the TV commercials, who
has no record whatsoever, and they'll try to make him
out to be the next Ronald Reagan or something.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Now, Scott, my colleague Dan Kaplis's adamant. He wants you
to for sanity, wants you to run for president. You've
kind of ruled that out. But I think Thomas Massey
would be a strong candidate. What's his appeal in Kentucky?
Can he be primary? Because from the outside looking in,
I'm not from Kentucky, it doesn't look like that's a
good idea.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, it's true. He has faced some primaries and he's
always prevailed. Trump was upset with him a few terms ago.
And although Trump came out against Massey, he never really
endorsed in any opponent. This time is different. I'll just
tell you. I mean, my sources tell me the White
House is very focused on this. The President's personally focused
on it. There'll be unlimited resources for whoever they can find.
(18:35):
Finding a candidate is the thing, and Matthew's right. They
are looking to try to find someone credible to run
against him. Kentucky are interesting. You know the same people
who elect McConnell and Trump also elect Massey and Ran.
I mean, we do have this interesting libertarian contrarian street
in US here in Kentucky, which leads us to cast
you some interesting votes. Matthew's got a pretty strong brand
(18:59):
in the district, but you know, he's never really faced
the full wrath of Donald Trump, which in Kentucky is
a pretty strong brand in the Republican Party. I think
a lot of this is going to depend on whether
they find a credible candidate to run against them. And
if they do, as I said, they'll have unlimited resources,
and with a good candidate and money, you could do
things in politics. But I wouldn't underestimate Mancy. He'll be
(19:22):
hard to beat. The filing deadline is in early January,
and then the Republican primary is in May, so all
this will come to a head in the next few months.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
And despite disagreements, I'm a big fan of him personally.
I think he's a man of integrity and character, and
I like that he fights for a smaller budget in Washington.
The book A Revolution of Common Sense, How Donald Trump
stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization. It's author Scott Jennings.
You can watch him every night on CNN. Scott always
have fun with our conversations. Thank you so much for
taking the time. We'll talk again down the line.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Thank you, brother, talk soon.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Take here, Scott Jennings right there, your response, your reaction
five seven seven three nine via text. We'll come back
with that and a whole lot more. Home rule defeated
in Douglas County Laura Thomas, former Douglas County Commissioner.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Still to come Stephen L. Miller.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
He is the host of the Versus Media podcast to
start hour number two and also valleol. She is a
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Speaker 2 (22:15):
Joining us now.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
She is the former Doug Co commissioner who was opposed
to establishing home rule in Douglas County. That vote going
down last night and going down in Flames by a
number resembling I don't know something that would be almost
unanimous in a county that leans read seventy one twenty nine.
Laura Thomas, our guest, Laura, thank you so much for
your time, first of all, and secondly, is that margin
(22:39):
surprising to you? Seventy one to twenty nine?
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Hey, Ryan, thanks for the opportunity to be on the radio.
So I didn't want to tempt fate yesterday and predict
that we were going to win, but I knew from
talking to people and watching social media and interacting with
the public that they were disgusted by what these commissioners
were trying to do, that they were trying to slip
something past them and steam roll the public by doing
(23:04):
this so quickly behind closed doors. So I am so
pleased that almost thirty percent of the voters showed up
yesterday for a summer off term election, and I think
they sent a huge repudiation not only to the commissioners
but to the Douglas County Republican Party.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Other items on the ballot it says home ruled, Charter
Commission at large for District one, for District two, District three.
Pardon my ignorance on this, but the fact that home
rule gets voted down entirely. Are those other selections now
moot or is there still going to be a commission formed?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
That's a great question. It's a moot. It's moot now
because the voter said, Nope, we don't want to do this.
So that means the Charter Commission will not be engaging.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
And further that point, Lord Thomas joining us, I'm just
looking at the results and they kind of speak for themselves.
The numbers, not just the one I mentioned, but for
the at large spot on the Home Rule Charter Commission.
Here we have the chair of the Board of Commissioners
Douglas County, George Teele, who I also interviewed on this subject.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Along with you on either side of this.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
He was lagging well behind a vote for three, it says,
and his vote total was a distant fifth on this list.
So even if they had formed the commission, he was
not going to qualify in those top three.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
What does that number tell you?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
That number should tell the commissioners that the public doesn't
want any part of this. They just want the commissioners
to govern for the people that elected them, that represented them,
and that public does not want any part of this
nonsense of home rule, especially the way they snuck around
behind closed doors and tried to shove this down the
(24:49):
voter's throps.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Laura, it's not that you were opposed to the concept
of their being more independence when it comes to Douglas
County and making its own decisions, but you just didn't
grant the premise that this home rule vote was going
to amount too much in that regard. So, with that knowledge,
with that basis, with that platform, and how the voters
turned out in such large numbers against it, where does
(25:14):
it go from here? You've talked about this before, but
what would be a more effective means for voters in
Douglas County to go about getting more self determination.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
In their county.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Well, I don't know that there's any way that we
can just in fact, there's no way that we can
just say we're not going to follow these state laws.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
We have to follow state laws, and if we don't
like the state laws that are coming down, then the
Republicans need to work on getting candidates that can win,
and when we can win elections, we can govern.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Laura Thomas, she is a former member of the Douglas
County Board of Commissioners, and she came out rather forcefully
against this issue of home rule, and it went down
to the feet, as I mentioned, by a vote of
seventy one to twenty nine. I was looking at this
maybe it was like you said, you didn't want to
jinx the outcome, Laura. I get that, but that it
was probably going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of
fifty five to forty five either way, and was.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Will in excess of that.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So this kind of method of getting the information out
to the public, as you mentioned, this is an off year,
off season election, it's the middle of summer. Getting people
to turn out. That's a difficult kind of road to hoe.
And yet, like you said, you were effectively able to
get this message delivered to the people of Douglas County.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
What do you attribute that to.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I mean, maybe an interview like this one and other
radio hits that you've done, But how was that message
able to get out and how were the voters able
to respond to it in time?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Ryan, I've been involved in Douglas County politics for twenty
years and what I have learned is that it's one
on one communication, meeting with people, communicating with them somehow.
I was very active on nextdoor, on Facebook. I did
my newsletter three or four times a week, reaching out
to people, and I was part of a large, non
(27:05):
partisan group of people who came together and said, hell no,
we are not going to let the commissioners ruin our
county with this nonsense. And there was a lot of
door knocking, there was testing, there was mailing, and we
had the facts on our side. That's how we were
able to do this.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Laura, you mentioned in this Facebook post about how there
was basically an end around and you touched on that
as we began our conversation here, and that it wasn't
so much about home rule the issue like surface level.
And when I look at it and I talked to
you about this before knee jerk reaction, I would be, well,
if so and so was against this, well, therefore I
(27:43):
default to being in favor of it. But you looked
under the hood, you got into the devil of the
details here and what you're suggesting here. I mean, this
is pretty strong language review that it was a phony
sales pitch, that these individuals like George Teele were looking
out for their own self interests to what end? What
was in your mind the motivation behind this other than
(28:05):
just that surface level home rule. Hey, we're looking for
self determination for Douglas County and to not follow state
laws that we don't like.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Thank well, that whole thing not following state laws was
all subterfuge. What we need to remember this is the
fact that the commissioners and their inside cronies were sneaking
around for months before the commissioners bothered to tell the
public that this was going to be an election. Yesterday
on June twenty fourth, there were supporters that filed paperwork
(28:36):
with the Secretary of State at the exact same time
the commissioners were putting this on the ballot, And so
it was that those insiders that I believe were going
to benefit from home rule in the long run. I
can't prove what they were up to, but if the
commissioners really wanted to do this for the public, they
would have had several meetings with the public and engaged
(28:58):
with us before they put this on the ballot. But
they didn't do it. So any reasonable person would say, hmm,
there's something else going on here, and that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Or Thomas joining us.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
She's a former Douglas County commissioner and she came out
publicly against this home rule initiative.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Laura, you didn't have to do this.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
You chose this, and you chose this battle knowing that
it would cost a tremendous amount for you personally in
terms of political capital. I'm sure you've taken more than
your fair share of slings and arrows from people that
would ostensibly be right of center on the political spectrum.
And I guess my question for you is is it
worth it? The outcome of this is their vindication in
(29:40):
that and for you personally, I know you're not doing
it necessarily for those means, But what does this mean
for your future in the Republican Party if there.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
Is one, Well, I think you just hit the nail
on the head. The future of the Republican Party is
what we're talking about. Look, I was a major with
the State Patrol and during when I bought my house
in Highland's Ranch because I knew I wanted to spend
the rest of my life here. I love this county.
It is beautiful, that people are amazing. There's no other
(30:10):
place I want to live and home rule would have
changed that in a bad way. And so my husband
and myself and my friends helped me over the last
ninety days to educate the public about why they needed
to say no to home rule. And they did that.
So it's a new day, and let's hope that the
commissioners heard the message, they answered the phone call, and
(30:31):
they don't do this again.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, it was a dramatic and emphatic victory for Laura
Thomas in her side opposing home rule in Douglas County.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Again.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
It goes down by a margin of seventy one twenty
nine an eye opener, to say the least, and Laura
Thomas a driving force behind defeating it. Laura, congratulations on
this political victory. We thank you for your time and
I look forward to our next conversation.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Hey, thank you again. This was a win for the
citizens and there were there was an army with me.
I didn't do this.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Laura Thomas.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
We appreciate her and she's always been good to me
and joining me and providing us with her time today.
And whether you live in Douglas County or not, getting
your response is.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Top priority right now. At five seven seven three nine,
voting down home rule, This was like a seventy one
twenty nine vote.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
As I stated, it was emphatic, it was dramatic, and
it was resounding.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Do you support home rule in Douglas County?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Were you surprised that it went down to defeat at
such a stark margin or are you with Laura Thomas
on this and saying this was not a good solution
to a problem that we know that we have, but
we're looking for more effective means to combat those laws
in this state that we do not like. Five seven
seventy three nine, Those texts wrapping it up for hour
(31:46):
number one. We'd come back after this what an hour
and we're just getting started, folks, counting down to halftime.
Here Shannon Scott alongside the Detroit Connection re establish lots
of kinetic energy. We go Tesla here, ac not Edison,
DC told you that story. So my great aunt Zora
(32:11):
came over from Serbia to visit Michigan and there we
have not Greenwood Village, but Greenfield Village.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Jenna knows what I'm talking about. Over there, and they.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Have this entire display and all these artifacts dedicated to
honoring the great Thomas Edison.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
But what did he do? According to us serbs, this
is what he did.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
And if you watch some of these documentaries, they say
it too. Thomas Edison had this whole theory on electricity
based on DC direct current Tesla Nicola, Tesla not Nicola.
It's not Nicola. Yokitch Okay, it's Nicola, all right. Now
take it from a Serb I know, ask him, he'll say,
(32:53):
Ryan's right. Anyway, Tesla had a very diverse theory, a
much more complicated area of alternating current, so that there
wasn't these power surges that would evolve. And then of
course that evolved in the band ac DC for both
of them. But unfortunately Tesla had the wrong backers betting
(33:13):
on him as a horse, and that was Westinghouse and
they would eventually sell him out to what would become
General Electric and all the patents that went with it,
including alternating current. So when my great aunt Zora came
through the Thomas Edison display and my dad was walking
her through it in her very broken English, she just
(33:35):
scoffed at it.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Tesla invented all of this, and she's right to my
late great aunt za finishing.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Out with your tax five seventy seven three nine, Ryan,
I don't live in doug Coe, but I never heard
what was bad about it, meaning the home rule vote
which was voted down seventy one twenty nine last night
in a special election.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Continue with the text. I did hear that it was.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Not the same as well, not much else, well the
nuts and bolts of it as I understood it, and
I don't live in doug Coo either. Was that for
somebody like George Teal, the unjustified the means of look,
we want home rule, we want this as a precedent,
we want to establish some level of self determination. Independence
(34:19):
from state laws that we might disagree with and give
us a platform to isolate ourselves as Douglas County and
empower ourselves along those lines. Representative Brandy Bradley came out
in favor of it as well. I think George Brockler
was in favor of it, but Laura Thomas, also a Republican,
opposed it along with many Democrats. She took a lot
of heat for that, but her reasoning was more along
(34:40):
the lines of a realistic approach, saying, Okay, I get
what you want to do, but this is not the
way to do it. It will not be effective, it
will create more problems than it solves, and there's some
level of underhanded dealing going on here from George Teele
and others that want to secure and you sert more
power for themselves selfishly, Julie then merely doing it for the.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Good of the people. So that's what I understood.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Douglas County voters agreed with Laura Thomas, and they voted
it down dramatically. Ryan great segment with Scott Jennings a
voice of reason and truth, just like you, Steven Lyttleton.
I take that as an ultimate compliment and Shannon even
divulged him that he would help Scott Jennings bury a
body if it was so needed, and Scott just might
take him up on the offer, just saying that was discussed.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Ryan, this is the same.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Democratic Party to try to tell us that Iran retaliated
with a devastating attack on our air base and Katar
the left hundreds of soldiers dead.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Did they say that?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I know that they were hit to that groove and
they were hot to trot and wanting to report that
what they want to report. And this is the way
that you can watch the news. Again, this is critiquing
mass media five o one. It's a graduate level class
yours truly at the Helm as the professor. I took
that class in college, and I'm delivering.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It to you.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Is that any news that makes Trump look bad, they
are going to seize upon it. They're going to amplify it.
I mentioned the example of our KOA morning program over there.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That's what happened.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
And then if there's good news for Trump or there's
inconvenient news for the left, like a story you'll hear
about an hour two on this program, suddenly that goes
unnoticed or overlooked or not covered. We're going to talk
about Camp Idra Hadgie in our number two with Valiel
and a big decision.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
It wasn't a decision so much as a settlement.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
In which Idra Hadgie gets to keep its religious autonomy.
It's liberty and saying that it does not adhere to
the transgender identity of individuals that might be attending their camp.
Lots more to come our number two stick and set
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