March 27, 2025 • 36 mins
A student at Durango High School is being housed by an LGBTQ activist teacher and her trans-female identifying husband, against the mother's wishes. The biological female student now identifies as male, and 'has been diagnosed with autism, ADHD, an eating disorder, depression, and anxiety, according to medical records provided by her mother.'Weld County Sheriff Steve Reams provides his expert analysis on the now-released (thanks to CORA) bodycam footage of La Plata County sheriff's deputies responding to the scene.
Then, Dave Proffit, founder of American Heroes In Action, joins Ryan to preview an upcoming fishing and hunting trip for veterans with PTSD to Arizona.
Then, Dave Proffit, founder of American Heroes In Action, joins Ryan to preview an upcoming fishing and hunting trip for veterans with PTSD to Arizona.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm deputy.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
How are you good? That's all I need to basically hear.
I'm just timing by to make sure you're good, you
know what I mean. I'm not going to try to
insert myself into something that's already sort of in process
or whatever you're doing.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I guess by legal standard, you're technically a minor as
a seventeen year old.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
But I just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Make sure you're good.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You're good, okay, very good. That's all I.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Need for now. And I appreciate you guys, and I
appreciate your willingness to I don't know, I guess help
me check boxes. Probably going to have to be with them.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Exactly there.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Hi.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
So I'm deputy server over, and you folks are I'm
mom Okay, I'm all right, Okay. So I basically went
and did a welfare check and I don't see signs
of distress.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
There.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Doesn't need to be distressed. She needs to come home.
She's harbored, folks. That does not have my permission to
be here. She is a minor. I don't care if
she's a day away from eighteen. A minor is a minor,
and she's.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Not had my permission to be here, right, but again,
it doesn't rise to the level of law enforcement involvement.
She's not in distress right now.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
I'm sorry you're telling me that you're not going to.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Physically rip her out of that home.
Speaker 8 (01:45):
Yeah, even if there was an agreement between CPS and
her and the mother that.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
That those are civil agreements and you're gonna have to
deal with those on.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
A civil level.
Speaker 9 (01:54):
So even though she is a minor, she has no
permitted to be here. She's technically a runaway at this point.
They're harboring her.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
And that's okay, doesn't that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I mean, we heard you guys laugh up.
Speaker 9 (02:11):
There, So there's obviously something that was fun, isn't.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
The kidnapping when you were forced to give a child back? No, seriously,
so what.
Speaker 9 (02:19):
What's funny is that? I'd like to know what you
guys were laughing at them? So what was funny?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I don't believe that's relevant.
Speaker 9 (02:29):
Why do when you're talking about a child.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
This is a seventeen year old, she's still a minor.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Minor and child are different, and distress was not seen.
I was told to distress.
Speaker 9 (02:46):
Good, Okay, you guys want.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
A civil suit, tail, I'm doing my job? Are you.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Good?
Speaker 7 (02:54):
So bottom line is I can't.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Can I go up there? And no?
Speaker 7 (03:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
In fact, they specifically said if you're not allowed on
their property.
Speaker 9 (03:05):
The people have literally taken this child.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
They have I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
See I get other sides that say that the child's
been thrown out of the house.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
No, that's wrong, that's wrong. Okay, but do you see
where I'm standing?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I can't make the determination. Don't look at me? What
me worry?
Speaker 10 (03:26):
Alfredy Newman and also apparently la Platta County Deputy Breton
Thurber is who you heard?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That is body cam video?
Speaker 10 (03:33):
Of course you just heard the sound that was obtained
thanks to Cora and the request that was made on
behalf of the mom that you heard. Now, she was
concerned about her daughter, who has been identifying as a
male trans. Her daughter was being housed by a lesbian
trans couple. The female in the household was a teacher
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and the Durango school system apparently there was a reallyationship
between the student and the teacher based on that, and
this student had fled from her mother after a disagreement
they had kind of a rocky relationship, and the other
member of this couple is a trans identifying person and
apparently they were offering some sort of refuge haven sanctuary
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to this young person, a minor, a seventeen year old
who was identifying as trans, and that was the basis,
apparently for the deputy's actions behavior during this call. Now,
before I offer fuller analysis than that, I want to
turn to somebody who knows who would be tasked with
handling something like this were it to happen in Weld
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County rather than La Platta County. And then there's the sheriff,
Steve Reeens. He joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live. Sheriff,
thank you for taking the time.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You bet, Ryan, I wish it was for a different.
Speaker 10 (04:53):
Purpose, yes, And I might add that he was tremendously
successful in his film appearances for Dan Kaplis last week
went over very well with the listeners.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
We look forward to more.
Speaker 10 (05:02):
So, Sheriff, just take us through your reaction based on
your experience, your background to what you just heard.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, when I listened to the audio and I watched
the video earlier, I keep thinking, well, there's got to
be way more to the story because the actions of
the deputy are definitely not what I would expect of
any law enforcement officer when dealing with a seventeen year
old who's not old enough to make those decisions for themselves,
even if they think they are. In this particular instance,
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even if the juvenile wasn't reported as a runaway. In
that circumstance, Mom is essentially reporting her as a runaway
at that point, and so the same actions would apply.
I don't know the justification for how that deputy can say, well,
I'm just going to leave the child here. Under worst
case scenarios, you know, the deputy would would in my agency,
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the deputy would be expected to take that juvenile into
protective custody and work something out with the Department of
Human Services if if Mom or the parents weren't believed
to be safe to turn that juvenile over to. But
you know, even to get to that point, you would
think that the deputy would want to take the juvenile
in question away from the situation, you know, into some
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kind of place where you have a private conversation, say
what's going on, is everything okay? Leaving that that child
in front of the adults that it was with to say, hey,
you know, you good. I mean, how are you getting
an honest answer there? And there's just there's just so
much wrong with what I see in the call. And
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you know, I'll be very candid with you. I went
to a new sheriff school with the sheriff Sean Smith,
who is the sheriff in Laplata County, and I have
a lot of respect for the guy. I think he
runs a good agency, and I, you know, I want
to believe that they're probably dealing with this this situation
internally and figuring out what happened here and you know,
trying to correct whatever may have gone wrong.
Speaker 10 (07:02):
Sheriff Steve Reamsweld County our guest breaking down the audio
from this bodycam footage that has been publicized now regarding
a seventeen year old who, in my opinion as a
show host, has been brainwashed by groomers over time. This
has been a pattern now in several Colorado locales, this
being during GOO.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We've reported on it in Jeffco.
Speaker 10 (07:23):
We know that it's happening elsewhere as well, and that
a seventeen year old is a minor, does not have agency,
cannot make a decision.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Like this, And what I try to do sheriff, and
you know me well enough.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
I approach this maybe as you do, as a logical exercise,
and I try to look at it as an equation
with variables and constants. So let's replace one of the variables.
And this is something I posted on X and shared
with you. Let's say, instead of a trans lesbian, whatever
couple this was that was harboring this seventeen year old
female identifying as male, let's just substitute in. It's a
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seventeen year old hetero female student. And it's a couple
of guys, one of whom was her former teacher, and
they're both had a row bachelors living in a bachelor pad,
and they have heard there.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Can you imagine how differently that might be handled?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Absolutely, Ryan, I think that's a very good example. I
think your listeners and every person out there understands that
red flags would go up. I think the confusing part
here is the you know, the gender questions between the
different individuals involved. But I'll give you an even better
scenario that is real to life. Most of your listeners
probably know about the Gabby Patito story where See and
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her her husband were having a domestic dispute on a
roadside in Utah, officers went away from their training experience,
didn't arrest or didn't do the mandatory arrest for a
domestic violence incident that they had evidence of, and later on,
Gabby Patito is discovered to have been murdered by the
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same person that they were in contact with, who later
committed suicide. That's the ramifications of not doing your job correctly.
And I hope that's not the end result of this,
But there are rules of engagement in place, there are
mandatory ways of handling certain types of calls, and it's
because you don't want officers to make this type of mistake,
(09:17):
you know, I think this is this is definitely problematic.
This happens in my agency. We're digging in and saying
what went wrong.
Speaker 10 (09:27):
Sheriff Steve Bringsweald County joining us, and this news just broke.
It was based on a daily wire report and we've
been working with Lori Gimmelstein.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
She joined me yesterday and she will be joining dan.
Speaker 10 (09:38):
Kaplis today, So you want to stay tuned for that
for a further follow up on what you just heard.
Lori Gimmelstein, of course, is one of the founders of
Colorado Parent Advocacy Network. A final thought from you, Sheriff,
and it's kind of along those same lines of what
I was just touching on with how this is handled
differently because of the variable involved that it contains a.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Trans element and I identity element.
Speaker 10 (10:00):
It might be out of the depth of a typical deputy,
and that might be understandable. But this has also happened,
as you know in Jeffco where a lesbian relationship was
basically kind of poop pooed and diminished and dismissed as well.
It's just those two and it reminds me a lot.
I told you this too of the Milwaukee police officers
who very dubiously back in the early nineties witnessed Jeffrey
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Dahmer coming back around his apartment. There was a concerned
black female neighbor of hers, of his rather, that was
expressing a tremendous concern over this young Laotian fourteen year
old who they didn't do a close inspection, had had
a hole drilled in his head, and they just kind
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of laughed it off and chalked it up as a
lover's quarrel between two gay guys. But Sheriff that was
the nineties, and now you hear really a lack of
seriousness from this deputy that I just don't believe would
be present if this was a typical kind of heterosexual
encounter that he went to a house and checked in
on the welfare of this young person.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, I agree with you, Ryan. I think when you
start adding in elements that aren't typical of a normal relationship,
you know, you start adding in different sexualities, different gender identities,
it tests the you know, the ability of that officer
to interact with the situation and it's not quote unquote normal,
so therefore they don't know how to apply the normal response. Ultimately,
(11:29):
you're talking about a kid in an adult environment, and
that kid isn't isn't old enough to make those types
of decisions. Take the sexuality piece out of it, take
the gender identity out of it, and it becomes a
lot easier to deal with. You know. The laughing, the joking,
that's gallows humor. You know, when officers see things that
are that are not normal, oftentimes, you know, they try
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to laugh their way through it. I think that's what
I think. The laughing that you hear as a result
of a very uncomfortable situation that these officers don't know
how to handle, and honestly, I don't I don't think
they very good job.
Speaker 10 (12:01):
Well, perhaps it can serve as an instructural note for
other sheriffs and deputies to follow and cautionary tale. At
that final thought from you here, Sheriff on this Texter's
point saying at five seven seventy thirty nine, Ryan.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Is a technical point.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
The age of sexual consent in Colorado is seventeen. I
don't like the situation at all, but I figured the
point of fact would be important. Your response to.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That, Sheriff, Your text is not wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
But we're not talking about a sexual situation here. We're
talking about a situation where the child is not being
you know, they're not being held under the custody of
their parent, who has custody until they're eighteen years old.
We have a runaway juvenile situation here. If there is
a question of sex between any of these parties, you know,
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that's a whole other topic to discuss. But regardless that
the child doesn't have the ability to make their decision
to live with that individual.
Speaker 10 (12:55):
And again, Laurie Gimmelstein will join Dan kaplis a little
bit later on today from the Colorado Parent Advocacy Network
and they have been instrumental in publicizing this story and
helping the Daily Wire report on it, and we're reporting
on it as well with the help of Sheriff Steve
Raems Weld County Sheriff. Always appreciate your time and insights.
We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (13:15):
Giving Sheriff Steve raingerr reaction at five seven seven three nine.
Again this if this was an isolated incident, that would
be one thing. If it was a one off, you're like, Wow,
this doesn't happen. It's not rampant in Colorado. But when
we talk with Lindsay Datko of jeff Co Kids First,
and it's not just Jeff Go, but it's especially Jeff Co.
This seems to be a pattern of enabling, grooming an
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abuse of young people and deferring and defaulting to those
who might offer some kind of harbor to this young
individual and taking sides against the parents. And that's what
this deputy did there. He went in there with the
presumption he's laughing, he's joking around with this trans lesbian
couple that's housing this minor. I just want to make
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sure you're fine. Okay, I'll go tell the mom to
shove off. She says no again. In my view, and
I don't think I'm too old fashioned here. I know
I'm a gen xer. I'm fifty, and I grew up
during a different time. But some things are time immemorial
should be constant, and that is you defer in default
to the interests of the parent who has the best
interests of their child at heart. Good ninety ninety five,
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maybe even ninety eight percent of the time. There are
instances where a child's being abused or neglected by their
parental units, their mothers, their fathers, whatnot. But that needs
to be clearly demonstrated, and there needs to be a
very high bar for taking a child away from a
parent or for citing against a parent with whoever. A teacher,
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a teacher living with a teacher, first and foremost completely
unethical should be a no go zone. As Sheriff Reems
just pointed out, if you have a concern about a child,
well then you call in a neutral party, you provide
them with some kind of temporary house, and you figure
it out. You don't just follow You're here, you're camping out.
You know these people, It's cool. We're just gonna go
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along with that. Why is there such an adversarial relationship
between these school districts public school districts in Colorado?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And it has various shades and themes and colors.
Speaker 10 (15:20):
Whether it's jeff Co Public Schools in Columbine High School,
whether it's Cherry Creek High School and the superintendent there
saying that they're a family. It's creating this alternate reality
that is an off ramp for kids if they don't
want to be a part of their family anymore and
they're bad at their parents.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You've got a.
Speaker 10 (15:39):
Family here at Cherry Creek High School that is a
dangerous slippery slope. And these schools they're faing and maybe
they're going to be foing because there is a legal
component to this that I think they have brazenly ignored
and thumbed their noses at. And they have become, as
Kelly pointed out, drunk with power and assuming that they
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know what's best for their students rather than the parents
knowing what's best for their kids. This is what loses
elections for Democrats. There is a political component to this,
and it beared out in Virginia. When parents feel like
they are being ignored, it doesn't matter what their political
stripes are. Aaron Lee, I believe at one point was
a Democrat put her school parent took her daughter out
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of there because there was a so called art club
that hello, was an LGBTQ in doctrination club instead, And
why be so cloak and dagger. If it's such a
good thing for the kids, why did you have to
falsely represent it as an art club. We're seeing a
lot of people having this awakening. You could call it
red pilling whatever you want, but I think it's more
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about I'm not part of that that being over there,
this lunatic fringe left that wants to not only indoctrinate
your kids, but take them away from you, like Pinocchio
going to you know, the land with all the candy
and stuff. I mean, this is really really deep water,
deep dark water that the public schools in Colorado are
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wandering into. And now it's happening in Durango, way out
in southwestern Colorado here. And it's more than a pattern.
It's a system of enabling these groomers to run rough
shot over parents to have access to kids, to brainwash
them and to make them believe.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You know.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
Like I said yesterday, parenting is tough. I was parented,
I was a kid. I'm not a parent, not yet.
But I'll tell you this parents, I know this, and
anybody does. I've taught kids, I've coached kids. Parents have
the toughest job of all because they have to be
the bad guys. There have to be boundaries, there have
to be limitations, there have to be consequences. You're trying
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to coach and teach your kid to be an adult
and to learn that their actions have opposite reactions have consequences,
and you're not always going to be the most popular
person in that kid's life. But then some Johnny come
Lately comes along with a bright, shiny new view and
that there are no consequences. You can live in a
consequence free environment, can have all the fun you want.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Come live in our house.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
We won't judge you, or come down on you, or
discipline you the way that you're mean. Old parents do.
That is not a good enough or compelling reason to
take a child away from their parents and their home.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
This is insanity.
Speaker 10 (18:28):
This is point blank insanity, and it's being continued, there
have been no consequences at Columbine High School. And we'll
see how this plays out in Durango, Texter here five seven, seven,
three nine. We'll get some more of yours after the
break as well. Have our buddy Reims do a taxpayer
relief shot quote for Brownie. I'm going to connect those dots.
(18:50):
I think that's a pretty good idea. More straight ahead,
we're going to talk to Dave Prophet. He runs a
great organization. He's a personal friend American Heroes in Action.
They've got an event coming up for there are veterans
suffering with PTSD. You know, you might have a charitable
heart and you want to know where best to spend
(19:11):
those dollars.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That help the most people that are in the most need.
Speaker 10 (19:15):
I know my mom during her life was a big
supporter of Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital, and I am
as well, because these are kids that are very sick,
and some of them right out of the gate, they
don't have a fair shot at life. They have cancer
and other things, and it's just a wonderful organization that
provides those treatments for families, especially those that just can't
afford them or can't even think about affording them.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So children who are sick.
Speaker 10 (19:38):
Obviously, that's near the top of the list, if not
at the top of the list for a lot of
us out there, and including my mom, like I said,
and another one for me personally, I get emotional just
thinking about it and supporting our American veterans like my
best Bud Hutch you know, a Marine Corps veteran. He
was involved in the operation in Coastovo in the late nineties. Now,
thankfully he was not injured during his service, but there
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are many servi members who are and they come home
and maybe the government lets them down and they could
use a helping hand and things that'll put them on
the right track, not just financially, but also emotionally, spiritually, mentally.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And that's where this next.
Speaker 10 (20:13):
Group really comes in and does such a service for
our veterans that includes not only those of the military,
but of law enforcement as well. American Heroes in Action
you can find them online on American Heroes Inaction dot
org and their mission is stated on that website. He
is to provide therapeutic outdoor adventures to American heroes, including
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combat wounded veterans, injured firefighters and injured members of law enforcement.
They have an event coming up this weekend. We'll touch
on the details of that, just to give you a
picture of what they're able to provide and how they're
able to provide it. And joining me now, he's my
good friend. We've met up for bourbon a couple of times,
Dave Profit, and this was all his brainchild.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He has brought it to fruition.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
He's done so much good for our veterans, especially those
right here in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
He joins us now in Ryan Schuling Live. Dave, welcome back.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Thank you, Ryan. It's good to be back.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Set the table there for you.
Speaker 10 (21:06):
But I'd like you to kind of describe American Heroes
in Action for those that are hearing about it for
the first time.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
What it is, what you do and how you do.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
It well, American Heroes in Action. You already read the
mission statement and that's a good description. And we are
trying to give our men and women who have worn
the uniform, and it could be a firefighters uniform or
a police uniform. We're trying to give those men and
women a little dose of outdoor therapy.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
And as you.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Were mentioning, we do have some outdoor adventures planned for
this weekend. I'm taking off early early tomorrow morning. I'm
going to drive to Phoenix, Arizona, and I'm not going
to participate in the adventures. But on Friday, we've got
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a pontoon boat with six fishermen going out on Lake Pleasant.
And while those six fellas are on the boat fishing,
we've got six more veterans who will be playing around
the golf.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
Very nice and that'll be in Lake Pleasant north of Phoenix.
As I'm reading it from the website here guided straight
bass fishing and Arizona. Now, Dave, not everybody thinks of
fishing when they think of Arizona. Yet you were able
to find a locale that not only provides that, but
a guided two or four and it sounds awesome.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Well, the Lake Pleasant is pretty well known as a
bass fishery there in the Phoenix area in Arizona, and
there's a lot of people who go down to play
golf and say, hey, while i'm here, I'm going to
go catch me a bass.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
So I love it, and stripe bass is delicious.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
This is yeah, this is this is two adventures, but
we have one more adventure plan before the end of
this month. On Monday, Monday, we have four women who
are going on on a lady's only ski trip out
to Loveland Ski area. All four of these women are veterans.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
We're talking ski trips, golf trips, fishing trips, hunting trips.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
What am I leaving out here?
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Dave skydiving?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Oh wow, I haven't.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
We haven't done any of that yet this year. Waiting
for it to get a little bit warmer. Also, when
it gets a little bit warmer, we'll be doing several
whitewater rafting trips. And if someone else comes up with
a good adventure, tell us about it, because we may
be able to do. I know that in the fall
we're going to help a family over in on the
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Western Slope. We're going to do a cattle drive.
Speaker 10 (23:41):
That sounds like City Slickers the movie.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Yes, I know what you're talking about with Billy Crystal
as a radio advertising sale.
Speaker 10 (23:53):
There you go, worked in my field just a little bit,
a little adjacent to what I do here. I remember
whitewater rafting too in Ohio, Pennsylvania some thirty years ago
or so.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's a great adventure.
Speaker 10 (24:04):
I mean, that's a really accurate term about what you're
providing here, Dave, And you know, for people that are
again hear about this for the first time, maybe they're
a veteran who has suffered injuries as well, or a
former firefighter, police officer, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Maybe they have a.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
Family member or a friend who fits into that category.
I really like to connect dots here and connect them
to the adventures that you could provide for them.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
What's the best way?
Speaker 10 (24:26):
I know they go to the website American Heroes Inaction
dot org, but if they could have a conversation with you,
get their loved ones or themselves involved in this, what
would you recommend for them and what's the easiest way
to do that.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Here's what I tell all the guys that I get
to talk to men and women who are veterans or
firefighters or cops. On our website, there's an applicants tab
and when you click on that and someone can do
this for a loved one like you suggested, but there
is will ask for their contact information, so we have
a way to get a hold of them and invite
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them on one of these adventures. But then we have
a long list of the different types of adventures that
we offer and I tell all these guys kind of joking,
I say, check off everything from the list that you've
ever done before that you'd like to do again. Then
check off anything on that list that you've never done
before but would be willing to try with a group
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of guys who are really going to laugh at you
if you screw up. And the guys in the military,
they just get a big smile on their face and
they say, that's what I've been missing. Yeah, And in
addition to catching fish and swinging a golf club, a
lot of these guys get a little bit of therapy
(25:42):
just from the camaraderie that they get from spending time
with other men and women who all have shared similar experiences.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
He's the founder of Go Ahead, founder of American Heroes
and Action Dave profits. Already interrupt their Dave, But yeah,
the camaraderie you and I have talked about this, What
a wealth of spirituality that can unlock for somebody that's
been missing that from their lives for some time, and
maybe they don't know they're missing it. Maybe it's just
a blind spot for them and they've come back from
(26:12):
serving or they were injured while providing first responder service
as a policeman or a fireman, and now you've opened
their eyes to this whole new world. It's kind of
like Dorothy coming out of the Wizard of Oz and
seeing in color for the first time, or maybe for
the first time in a long time. And I can
only imagine what a dramatic positive impact that has on
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the service members that you provide these adventures for.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
It is a positive impact, and we want to provide
a positive impact for all the men and women who
participate on our adventures. And I think we're doing a
good job.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I think you are too, Dave.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
And I know that you described this trip that you're
about to embark upon tomorrow morning. That's why we had
you on today to describe it. Maybe we'll have a
recap kind of postgame with you on your return. And
that's that Guided stripe bass fishing and Arizona only got
the ladies only ski trip coming up on Monday. But
what might be next on the calendar? Let's say something.
I want to get involved. I want to do something.
What's next on the agenda? What would that be, when
(27:11):
would that be and how can people get involved with it?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Well, we do have our eighth annual fundraising banquet planned
for Saturday, May third, and we are looking for more volunteers.
People who can help us get their friends to buy tickets,
or they might know a business that can make a
donation to us. So those are the types of volunteer opportunities.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
That we have.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
We have the banquet on May third, we have our
Hacking for Heroes golf tournament coming up in August. We
have a summer shotgun showdown, a sporting play shooting event,
and we're looking for volunteers for all of those different events.
Those can help us. We would also love to have
volunteers who can help us plan these adventures. Do a
(28:00):
lot of the planning, but we can have more adventures
if we had more adventures planned, and.
Speaker 10 (28:05):
The best way to do that go to the website
American Heroes Inaction dot org. Just a wonderful organization and
Dave Profit is the guy that heads this up, spends
all that time, makes all that effort, really encouraging any
of you to get involved as a volunteer as he suggests,
or if you are a veteran of one of our
armed forces, or a firefighter, a police officer, retired, injured, et, cetera.
(28:28):
Looking to join in with the camaraderie of these adventures again.
You can find that online American Heroes in Action dot Org.
Dave great stuff is always enjoy the trip, safe travels,
and we'll talk to you when.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You get back.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
I look forward to it. Ryan, You have a good
rest of.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
Your day, all right, Dave, profit right. They're American Heroes
in Action. What a great organization, and that website one
more time, American Heroes Inaction dot org.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
We'll take this time out. We're wrap it up.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
Kelly's back. He's got some thoughts. I'm sure of it,
and I know you do too. Five seven seven three nine.
Send those texts along. We'll wind it on down after this.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
On Ryan schruling Locke, Well, I do want to say
that NPR acknowledges that we were mistaken and failing to
cover the Hunter Biden laptop story more aggressively and sooner
our current editorial leadership wuhan. We recognize that we were
reporting at the time, but we acknowledged that the new
(29:20):
CIA evidence is worthy of coverage and have covered it.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Ca Okay.
Speaker 10 (29:25):
Catherine Maher, NPR CEO acknowledging and testimony on Capitol Hill
today that they were mistaken in failing to cover the
Hunter Biden laptop story more aggressively and sooner, and the
whole Wuhan lab lab leak theory that was discounted and
dismissed and demonized and vilified. That you had to be
(29:48):
a conspiracy theorist if you thought that COVID started in
a lab, which we now suspect that it absolutely did.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Do you believe her?
Speaker 10 (29:57):
I have every reason not to belie. They didn't fail
to cover the Hunter Biden laptop story. They were wish casting.
They didn't want it to be true. And so with
that preconceived notion and bias went into it with the
mindset of, oh, these fifty one former government officials, Intel
(30:18):
are saying in his all the markings of Russian disinformation.
We're not gonna be curious, We're not going to investigate,
We're not going to do our own independent reporting or
verification of this. We're just going to take what we're
spoon fed and report that as fact. And they were
nothing but vessels for the left, and they always have been.
And this is why we need to defund the Corporation
for Public Broadcasting. Tucker Carlson revealed that his father, Dick Carlson,
(30:43):
had passed away. Now this is a legendary figure. He
was a single dad. Tucker's mom abandoned him and his brother,
and he became a super dad in a lot of ways.
And at one time he was the head of the
Corporation for Public Broadcasting. At one time there was a
purpose for that, government funded subsidized broadcasting for the broader
(31:06):
American public, so they didn't have to rely solely on ABC,
CBS or NBC. This is at a time and I
remember at my youth where you had channels on the television.
If you didn't have cable, that was it. And then
they had PBS and I watched Sesame Street and mister
Rogers and I love all that. But what it has
become is a far cry from what it once was.
(31:26):
And the fact that somebody like this Katherine Maher is
in charge of it tells you everything you need to know.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
This is her suggesting that you know what.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
Seeking the truth isn't necessarily the best place to start.
Speaker 11 (31:38):
But one of the most significant differences critical for moving
from polarization to productivity is that the wikipedians who write
these articles aren't actually focused on finding the truth. They're
working for something that's a little bit more attainable, which
is the best of what we can know right now.
And after seven years there, I actually believe that they're
(31:59):
onto something that for our most tricky disagreements, Seeking the
truth and seeking to convince others of the truth isn't
necessarily the best place to start. In fact, I think
our reverence for the truth might become might have become
a bit of a distraction that is preventing us from
finding consensus and getting important things done.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Seeking the truth is a distraction.
Speaker 10 (32:26):
The emblem of Harvard University has a slogan on it,
Veritas Truth. That's what our academic institutions used to seek
as their mission, as their goal. But now it's just
the truth, however you define it. It's my truth, not
the truth. It's hashtag me too. It's my truth. This
(32:47):
is my truth according to me. It's true to me.
It's not a lie if you believe it, George Costanza
or O. J. Simpson, if I did it. Here's Katherine
Maher again and our CEO on the number one challenge
fighting disinformation.
Speaker 11 (33:05):
The number one challenge here that we see is of course,
the First Amendment in the United States is a fairly
robust protection of rights, and that is a protection of
rights those for platforms, which I actually think is very
important that platforms have those rights to be able to
regulate what kind of content they want on their sites.
But it also means that it is a little bit
(33:26):
tricky to really address some of the real challenges of
where does bad information come from and sort of the
influenced tedlers who have made a real market economy around it.
Speaker 10 (33:36):
So she laments the First Amendment, use it as an
obstacle to protecting us from ourselves. See, you're not smart
enough to discern what's information, what's misinformation, what's truth, what's lie,
what's real news, what's fake news?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
So they have to do it for you. They know best.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
Just trust them, and they're going to weed out all
the misinformation and all the people perpetrating and trafficking in misinformation.
The only problem is for Katherine Maher and everybody on
the left that wants to censor all of us on
the right, is that misinformation, disinformation, mail, information, lies never
come from the left. Cite me one example or one
of these clowns, one of these censorious oppressive.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Clowns has said, you know what, there's misinformation on both sides.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
It's only misinformation that conflicts with their narrative, their version
of events, their so called truth. Kelly, should we defund
the Corporation for Public Broadcasting?
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Well, isn't it interesting that when that is brought up,
all of a sudden they're all about, well, maybe we
need to be more fair and balanced now they're coming
and that, you know, we have to you know, study
the way that and maybe bring in other people. And
isn't it the same institution that came out maybe a
year ago and they basically said ninety percent of.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Their workforce were liberals.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
Of course gave to Biden.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Oh yeah, it's in the campaign. It's Nico Chamber.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
So you know, so all of a sudden, when you
get does and you get people in there saying, you know,
this is kind of bad. I think we need to
defund these people. It's just like places like Columbia where
Trump doubles down and says, okay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Ripping your federal funding. You're gone with forty four hundred million,
just as I think.
Speaker 10 (35:17):
That federal funding should not be targeted toward info Wars
or Steve Bannon or conservative outlets right, Nor should it
for this obviously liberal outlet. Let the liberal fund themselves.
You got coastal liberal elites who are very wealthy. They
live in Martha's vineyard, and they can help prop up
NPR and PBS.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
So have never actually succeeded because there are shows like
yours that are listened to, not NPR.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
You got to defund it. No federal funding, No more
federal dollars.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
This texture says that to defund NPR, I'm done paying
for these scumbags. Well, they're just biased tacks. Let them
pay for themselves. They got enough liberals with money they
can do it. George Soros, Bill Gates and others. They
don't need our tax dollars anymore. But I'll do it
for me from here for now.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
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I'm deputy.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
How are you good? That's all I need to basically hear.
I'm just timing by to make sure you're good, you
know what I mean. I'm not going to try to
insert myself into something that's already sort of in process
or whatever you're doing.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I guess by legal standard, you're technically a minor as
a seventeen year old.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
But I just wanted to.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Make sure you're good.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You're good, okay, very good. That's all I.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Need for now. And I appreciate you guys, and I
appreciate your willingness to I don't know, I guess help
me check boxes. Probably going to have to be with them.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Exactly there.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Hi.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
So I'm deputy server over, and you folks are I'm
mom Okay, I'm all right, Okay. So I basically went
and did a welfare check and I don't see signs
of distress.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
There.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Doesn't need to be distressed. She needs to come home.
She's harbored, folks. That does not have my permission to
be here. She is a minor. I don't care if
she's a day away from eighteen. A minor is a minor,
and she's.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Not had my permission to be here, right, but again,
it doesn't rise to the level of law enforcement involvement.
She's not in distress right now.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
I'm sorry you're telling me that you're not going to.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Physically rip her out of that home.
Speaker 8 (01:45):
Yeah, even if there was an agreement between CPS and
her and the mother that.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
That those are civil agreements and you're gonna have to
deal with those on.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
A civil level.
Speaker 9 (01:54):
So even though she is a minor, she has no
permitted to be here. She's technically a runaway at this point.
They're harboring her.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
And that's okay, doesn't that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I mean, we heard you guys laugh up.
Speaker 9 (02:11):
There, So there's obviously something that was fun, isn't.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
The kidnapping when you were forced to give a child back? No, seriously,
so what.
Speaker 9 (02:19):
What's funny is that? I'd like to know what you
guys were laughing at them? So what was funny?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I don't believe that's relevant.
Speaker 9 (02:29):
Why do when you're talking about a child.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
This is a seventeen year old, she's still a minor.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Minor and child are different, and distress was not seen.
I was told to distress.
Speaker 9 (02:46):
Good, Okay, you guys want.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
A civil suit, tail, I'm doing my job? Are you.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Good?
Speaker 7 (02:54):
So bottom line is I can't.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Can I go up there? And no?
Speaker 7 (03:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
In fact, they specifically said if you're not allowed on
their property.
Speaker 9 (03:05):
The people have literally taken this child.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
They have I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
See I get other sides that say that the child's
been thrown out of the house.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
No, that's wrong, that's wrong. Okay, but do you see
where I'm standing?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I can't make the determination. Don't look at me? What
me worry?
Speaker 10 (03:26):
Alfredy Newman and also apparently la Platta County Deputy Breton
Thurber is who you heard?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That is body cam video?
Speaker 10 (03:33):
Of course you just heard the sound that was obtained
thanks to Cora and the request that was made on
behalf of the mom that you heard. Now, she was
concerned about her daughter, who has been identifying as a
male trans. Her daughter was being housed by a lesbian
trans couple. The female in the household was a teacher
(03:56):
and the Durango school system apparently there was a reallyationship
between the student and the teacher based on that, and
this student had fled from her mother after a disagreement
they had kind of a rocky relationship, and the other
member of this couple is a trans identifying person and
apparently they were offering some sort of refuge haven sanctuary
(04:21):
to this young person, a minor, a seventeen year old
who was identifying as trans, and that was the basis,
apparently for the deputy's actions behavior during this call. Now,
before I offer fuller analysis than that, I want to
turn to somebody who knows who would be tasked with
handling something like this were it to happen in Weld
(04:42):
County rather than La Platta County. And then there's the sheriff,
Steve Reeens. He joins us now on Ryan Schuling Live. Sheriff,
thank you for taking the time.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
You bet, Ryan, I wish it was for a different.
Speaker 10 (04:53):
Purpose, yes, And I might add that he was tremendously
successful in his film appearances for Dan Kaplis last week
went over very well with the listeners.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
We look forward to more.
Speaker 10 (05:02):
So, Sheriff, just take us through your reaction based on
your experience, your background to what you just heard.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, when I listened to the audio and I watched
the video earlier, I keep thinking, well, there's got to
be way more to the story because the actions of
the deputy are definitely not what I would expect of
any law enforcement officer when dealing with a seventeen year
old who's not old enough to make those decisions for themselves,
even if they think they are. In this particular instance,
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even if the juvenile wasn't reported as a runaway. In
that circumstance, Mom is essentially reporting her as a runaway
at that point, and so the same actions would apply.
I don't know the justification for how that deputy can say, well,
I'm just going to leave the child here. Under worst
case scenarios, you know, the deputy would would in my agency,
(05:57):
the deputy would be expected to take that juvenile into
protective custody and work something out with the Department of
Human Services if if Mom or the parents weren't believed
to be safe to turn that juvenile over to. But
you know, even to get to that point, you would
think that the deputy would want to take the juvenile
in question away from the situation, you know, into some
(06:19):
kind of place where you have a private conversation, say
what's going on, is everything okay? Leaving that that child
in front of the adults that it was with to say, hey,
you know, you good. I mean, how are you getting
an honest answer there? And there's just there's just so
much wrong with what I see in the call. And
(06:39):
you know, I'll be very candid with you. I went
to a new sheriff school with the sheriff Sean Smith,
who is the sheriff in Laplata County, and I have
a lot of respect for the guy. I think he
runs a good agency, and I, you know, I want
to believe that they're probably dealing with this this situation
internally and figuring out what happened here and you know,
trying to correct whatever may have gone wrong.
Speaker 10 (07:02):
Sheriff Steve Reamsweld County our guest breaking down the audio
from this bodycam footage that has been publicized now regarding
a seventeen year old who, in my opinion as a
show host, has been brainwashed by groomers over time. This
has been a pattern now in several Colorado locales, this
being during GOO.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We've reported on it in Jeffco.
Speaker 10 (07:23):
We know that it's happening elsewhere as well, and that
a seventeen year old is a minor, does not have agency,
cannot make a decision.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Like this, And what I try to do sheriff, and
you know me well enough.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
I approach this maybe as you do, as a logical exercise,
and I try to look at it as an equation
with variables and constants. So let's replace one of the variables.
And this is something I posted on X and shared
with you. Let's say, instead of a trans lesbian, whatever
couple this was that was harboring this seventeen year old
female identifying as male, let's just substitute in. It's a
(07:58):
seventeen year old hetero female student. And it's a couple
of guys, one of whom was her former teacher, and
they're both had a row bachelors living in a bachelor pad,
and they have heard there.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Can you imagine how differently that might be handled?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Absolutely, Ryan, I think that's a very good example. I
think your listeners and every person out there understands that
red flags would go up. I think the confusing part
here is the you know, the gender questions between the
different individuals involved. But I'll give you an even better
scenario that is real to life. Most of your listeners
probably know about the Gabby Patito story where See and
(08:36):
her her husband were having a domestic dispute on a
roadside in Utah, officers went away from their training experience,
didn't arrest or didn't do the mandatory arrest for a
domestic violence incident that they had evidence of, and later on,
Gabby Patito is discovered to have been murdered by the
(08:57):
same person that they were in contact with, who later
committed suicide. That's the ramifications of not doing your job correctly.
And I hope that's not the end result of this,
But there are rules of engagement in place, there are
mandatory ways of handling certain types of calls, and it's
because you don't want officers to make this type of mistake,
(09:17):
you know, I think this is this is definitely problematic.
This happens in my agency. We're digging in and saying
what went wrong.
Speaker 10 (09:27):
Sheriff Steve Bringsweald County joining us, and this news just broke.
It was based on a daily wire report and we've
been working with Lori Gimmelstein.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
She joined me yesterday and she will be joining dan.
Speaker 10 (09:38):
Kaplis today, So you want to stay tuned for that
for a further follow up on what you just heard.
Lori Gimmelstein, of course, is one of the founders of
Colorado Parent Advocacy Network. A final thought from you, Sheriff,
and it's kind of along those same lines of what
I was just touching on with how this is handled
differently because of the variable involved that it contains a.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Trans element and I identity element.
Speaker 10 (10:00):
It might be out of the depth of a typical deputy,
and that might be understandable. But this has also happened,
as you know in Jeffco where a lesbian relationship was
basically kind of poop pooed and diminished and dismissed as well.
It's just those two and it reminds me a lot.
I told you this too of the Milwaukee police officers
who very dubiously back in the early nineties witnessed Jeffrey
(10:25):
Dahmer coming back around his apartment. There was a concerned
black female neighbor of hers, of his rather, that was
expressing a tremendous concern over this young Laotian fourteen year
old who they didn't do a close inspection, had had
a hole drilled in his head, and they just kind
(10:45):
of laughed it off and chalked it up as a
lover's quarrel between two gay guys. But Sheriff that was
the nineties, and now you hear really a lack of
seriousness from this deputy that I just don't believe would
be present if this was a typical kind of heterosexual
encounter that he went to a house and checked in
on the welfare of this young person.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, I agree with you, Ryan. I think when you
start adding in elements that aren't typical of a normal relationship,
you know, you start adding in different sexualities, different gender identities,
it tests the you know, the ability of that officer
to interact with the situation and it's not quote unquote normal,
so therefore they don't know how to apply the normal response. Ultimately,
(11:29):
you're talking about a kid in an adult environment, and
that kid isn't isn't old enough to make those types
of decisions. Take the sexuality piece out of it, take
the gender identity out of it, and it becomes a
lot easier to deal with. You know. The laughing, the joking,
that's gallows humor. You know, when officers see things that
are that are not normal, oftentimes, you know, they try
(11:50):
to laugh their way through it. I think that's what
I think. The laughing that you hear as a result
of a very uncomfortable situation that these officers don't know
how to handle, and honestly, I don't I don't think
they very good job.
Speaker 10 (12:01):
Well, perhaps it can serve as an instructural note for
other sheriffs and deputies to follow and cautionary tale. At
that final thought from you here, Sheriff on this Texter's
point saying at five seven seventy thirty nine, Ryan.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Is a technical point.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
The age of sexual consent in Colorado is seventeen. I
don't like the situation at all, but I figured the
point of fact would be important. Your response to.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That, Sheriff, Your text is not wrong.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
But we're not talking about a sexual situation here. We're
talking about a situation where the child is not being
you know, they're not being held under the custody of
their parent, who has custody until they're eighteen years old.
We have a runaway juvenile situation here. If there is
a question of sex between any of these parties, you know,
(12:46):
that's a whole other topic to discuss. But regardless that
the child doesn't have the ability to make their decision
to live with that individual.
Speaker 10 (12:55):
And again, Laurie Gimmelstein will join Dan kaplis a little
bit later on today from the Colorado Parent Advocacy Network
and they have been instrumental in publicizing this story and
helping the Daily Wire report on it, and we're reporting
on it as well with the help of Sheriff Steve
Raems Weld County Sheriff. Always appreciate your time and insights.
We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (13:15):
Giving Sheriff Steve raingerr reaction at five seven seven three nine.
Again this if this was an isolated incident, that would
be one thing. If it was a one off, you're like, Wow,
this doesn't happen. It's not rampant in Colorado. But when
we talk with Lindsay Datko of jeff Co Kids First,
and it's not just Jeff Go, but it's especially Jeff Co.
This seems to be a pattern of enabling, grooming an
(13:37):
abuse of young people and deferring and defaulting to those
who might offer some kind of harbor to this young
individual and taking sides against the parents. And that's what
this deputy did there. He went in there with the
presumption he's laughing, he's joking around with this trans lesbian
couple that's housing this minor. I just want to make
(13:58):
sure you're fine. Okay, I'll go tell the mom to
shove off. She says no again. In my view, and
I don't think I'm too old fashioned here. I know
I'm a gen xer. I'm fifty, and I grew up
during a different time. But some things are time immemorial
should be constant, and that is you defer in default
to the interests of the parent who has the best
interests of their child at heart. Good ninety ninety five,
(14:21):
maybe even ninety eight percent of the time. There are
instances where a child's being abused or neglected by their
parental units, their mothers, their fathers, whatnot. But that needs
to be clearly demonstrated, and there needs to be a
very high bar for taking a child away from a
parent or for citing against a parent with whoever. A teacher,
(14:45):
a teacher living with a teacher, first and foremost completely
unethical should be a no go zone. As Sheriff Reems
just pointed out, if you have a concern about a child,
well then you call in a neutral party, you provide
them with some kind of temporary house, and you figure
it out. You don't just follow You're here, you're camping out.
You know these people, It's cool. We're just gonna go
(15:06):
along with that. Why is there such an adversarial relationship
between these school districts public school districts in Colorado?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And it has various shades and themes and colors.
Speaker 10 (15:20):
Whether it's jeff Co Public Schools in Columbine High School,
whether it's Cherry Creek High School and the superintendent there
saying that they're a family. It's creating this alternate reality
that is an off ramp for kids if they don't
want to be a part of their family anymore and
they're bad at their parents.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You've got a.
Speaker 10 (15:39):
Family here at Cherry Creek High School that is a
dangerous slippery slope. And these schools they're faing and maybe
they're going to be foing because there is a legal
component to this that I think they have brazenly ignored
and thumbed their noses at. And they have become, as
Kelly pointed out, drunk with power and assuming that they
(16:02):
know what's best for their students rather than the parents
knowing what's best for their kids. This is what loses
elections for Democrats. There is a political component to this,
and it beared out in Virginia. When parents feel like
they are being ignored, it doesn't matter what their political
stripes are. Aaron Lee, I believe at one point was
a Democrat put her school parent took her daughter out
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of there because there was a so called art club
that hello, was an LGBTQ in doctrination club instead, And
why be so cloak and dagger. If it's such a
good thing for the kids, why did you have to
falsely represent it as an art club. We're seeing a
lot of people having this awakening. You could call it
red pilling whatever you want, but I think it's more
(16:46):
about I'm not part of that that being over there,
this lunatic fringe left that wants to not only indoctrinate
your kids, but take them away from you, like Pinocchio
going to you know, the land with all the candy
and stuff. I mean, this is really really deep water,
deep dark water that the public schools in Colorado are
(17:09):
wandering into. And now it's happening in Durango, way out
in southwestern Colorado here. And it's more than a pattern.
It's a system of enabling these groomers to run rough
shot over parents to have access to kids, to brainwash
them and to make them believe.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
You know.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
Like I said yesterday, parenting is tough. I was parented,
I was a kid. I'm not a parent, not yet.
But I'll tell you this parents, I know this, and
anybody does. I've taught kids, I've coached kids. Parents have
the toughest job of all because they have to be
the bad guys. There have to be boundaries, there have
to be limitations, there have to be consequences. You're trying
(17:52):
to coach and teach your kid to be an adult
and to learn that their actions have opposite reactions have consequences,
and you're not always going to be the most popular
person in that kid's life. But then some Johnny come
Lately comes along with a bright, shiny new view and
that there are no consequences. You can live in a
consequence free environment, can have all the fun you want.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Come live in our house.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
We won't judge you, or come down on you, or
discipline you the way that you're mean. Old parents do.
That is not a good enough or compelling reason to
take a child away from their parents and their home.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
This is insanity.
Speaker 10 (18:28):
This is point blank insanity, and it's being continued, there
have been no consequences at Columbine High School. And we'll
see how this plays out in Durango, Texter here five seven, seven,
three nine. We'll get some more of yours after the
break as well. Have our buddy Reims do a taxpayer
relief shot quote for Brownie. I'm going to connect those dots.
(18:50):
I think that's a pretty good idea. More straight ahead,
we're going to talk to Dave Prophet. He runs a
great organization. He's a personal friend American Heroes in Action.
They've got an event coming up for there are veterans
suffering with PTSD. You know, you might have a charitable
heart and you want to know where best to spend
(19:11):
those dollars.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That help the most people that are in the most need.
Speaker 10 (19:15):
I know my mom during her life was a big
supporter of Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital, and I am
as well, because these are kids that are very sick,
and some of them right out of the gate, they
don't have a fair shot at life. They have cancer
and other things, and it's just a wonderful organization that
provides those treatments for families, especially those that just can't
afford them or can't even think about affording them.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So children who are sick.
Speaker 10 (19:38):
Obviously, that's near the top of the list, if not
at the top of the list for a lot of
us out there, and including my mom, like I said,
and another one for me personally, I get emotional just
thinking about it and supporting our American veterans like my
best Bud Hutch you know, a Marine Corps veteran. He
was involved in the operation in Coastovo in the late nineties. Now,
thankfully he was not injured during his service, but there
(19:59):
are many servi members who are and they come home
and maybe the government lets them down and they could
use a helping hand and things that'll put them on
the right track, not just financially, but also emotionally, spiritually, mentally.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And that's where this next.
Speaker 10 (20:13):
Group really comes in and does such a service for
our veterans that includes not only those of the military,
but of law enforcement as well. American Heroes in Action
you can find them online on American Heroes Inaction dot
org and their mission is stated on that website. He
is to provide therapeutic outdoor adventures to American heroes, including
(20:34):
combat wounded veterans, injured firefighters and injured members of law enforcement.
They have an event coming up this weekend. We'll touch
on the details of that, just to give you a
picture of what they're able to provide and how they're
able to provide it. And joining me now, he's my
good friend. We've met up for bourbon a couple of times,
Dave Profit, and this was all his brainchild.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
He has brought it to fruition.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
He's done so much good for our veterans, especially those
right here in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
He joins us now in Ryan Schuling Live. Dave, welcome back.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Thank you, Ryan. It's good to be back.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Set the table there for you.
Speaker 10 (21:06):
But I'd like you to kind of describe American Heroes
in Action for those that are hearing about it for
the first time.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
What it is, what you do and how you do.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
It well, American Heroes in Action. You already read the
mission statement and that's a good description. And we are
trying to give our men and women who have worn
the uniform, and it could be a firefighters uniform or
a police uniform. We're trying to give those men and
women a little dose of outdoor therapy.
Speaker 11 (21:35):
And as you.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Were mentioning, we do have some outdoor adventures planned for
this weekend. I'm taking off early early tomorrow morning. I'm
going to drive to Phoenix, Arizona, and I'm not going
to participate in the adventures. But on Friday, we've got
(21:56):
a pontoon boat with six fishermen going out on Lake Pleasant.
And while those six fellas are on the boat fishing,
we've got six more veterans who will be playing around
the golf.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
Very nice and that'll be in Lake Pleasant north of Phoenix.
As I'm reading it from the website here guided straight
bass fishing and Arizona. Now, Dave, not everybody thinks of
fishing when they think of Arizona. Yet you were able
to find a locale that not only provides that, but
a guided two or four and it sounds awesome.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Well, the Lake Pleasant is pretty well known as a
bass fishery there in the Phoenix area in Arizona, and
there's a lot of people who go down to play
golf and say, hey, while i'm here, I'm going to
go catch me a bass.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
So I love it, and stripe bass is delicious.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
This is yeah, this is this is two adventures, but
we have one more adventure plan before the end of
this month. On Monday, Monday, we have four women who
are going on on a lady's only ski trip out
to Loveland Ski area. All four of these women are veterans.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
We're talking ski trips, golf trips, fishing trips, hunting trips.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
What am I leaving out here?
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Dave skydiving?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Oh wow, I haven't.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
We haven't done any of that yet this year. Waiting
for it to get a little bit warmer. Also, when
it gets a little bit warmer, we'll be doing several
whitewater rafting trips. And if someone else comes up with
a good adventure, tell us about it, because we may
be able to do. I know that in the fall
we're going to help a family over in on the
(23:38):
Western Slope. We're going to do a cattle drive.
Speaker 10 (23:41):
That sounds like City Slickers the movie.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Yes, I know what you're talking about with Billy Crystal
as a radio advertising sale.
Speaker 10 (23:53):
There you go, worked in my field just a little bit,
a little adjacent to what I do here. I remember
whitewater rafting too in Ohio, Pennsylvania some thirty years ago
or so.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's a great adventure.
Speaker 10 (24:04):
I mean, that's a really accurate term about what you're
providing here, Dave, And you know, for people that are
again hear about this for the first time, maybe they're
a veteran who has suffered injuries as well, or a
former firefighter, police officer, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Maybe they have a.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
Family member or a friend who fits into that category.
I really like to connect dots here and connect them
to the adventures that you could provide for them.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
What's the best way?
Speaker 10 (24:26):
I know they go to the website American Heroes Inaction
dot org, but if they could have a conversation with you,
get their loved ones or themselves involved in this, what
would you recommend for them and what's the easiest way
to do that.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Here's what I tell all the guys that I get
to talk to men and women who are veterans or
firefighters or cops. On our website, there's an applicants tab
and when you click on that and someone can do
this for a loved one like you suggested, but there
is will ask for their contact information, so we have
a way to get a hold of them and invite
(24:59):
them on one of these adventures. But then we have
a long list of the different types of adventures that
we offer and I tell all these guys kind of joking,
I say, check off everything from the list that you've
ever done before that you'd like to do again. Then
check off anything on that list that you've never done
before but would be willing to try with a group
(25:19):
of guys who are really going to laugh at you
if you screw up. And the guys in the military,
they just get a big smile on their face and
they say, that's what I've been missing. Yeah, And in
addition to catching fish and swinging a golf club, a
lot of these guys get a little bit of therapy
(25:42):
just from the camaraderie that they get from spending time
with other men and women who all have shared similar experiences.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
He's the founder of Go Ahead, founder of American Heroes
and Action Dave profits. Already interrupt their Dave, But yeah,
the camaraderie you and I have talked about this, What
a wealth of spirituality that can unlock for somebody that's
been missing that from their lives for some time, and
maybe they don't know they're missing it. Maybe it's just
a blind spot for them and they've come back from
(26:12):
serving or they were injured while providing first responder service
as a policeman or a fireman, and now you've opened
their eyes to this whole new world. It's kind of
like Dorothy coming out of the Wizard of Oz and
seeing in color for the first time, or maybe for
the first time in a long time. And I can
only imagine what a dramatic positive impact that has on
(26:33):
the service members that you provide these adventures for.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
It is a positive impact, and we want to provide
a positive impact for all the men and women who
participate on our adventures. And I think we're doing a
good job.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I think you are too, Dave.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
And I know that you described this trip that you're
about to embark upon tomorrow morning. That's why we had
you on today to describe it. Maybe we'll have a
recap kind of postgame with you on your return. And
that's that Guided stripe bass fishing and Arizona only got
the ladies only ski trip coming up on Monday. But
what might be next on the calendar? Let's say something.
I want to get involved. I want to do something.
What's next on the agenda? What would that be, when
(27:11):
would that be and how can people get involved with it?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Well, we do have our eighth annual fundraising banquet planned
for Saturday, May third, and we are looking for more volunteers.
People who can help us get their friends to buy tickets,
or they might know a business that can make a
donation to us. So those are the types of volunteer opportunities.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
That we have.
Speaker 6 (27:37):
We have the banquet on May third, we have our
Hacking for Heroes golf tournament coming up in August. We
have a summer shotgun showdown, a sporting play shooting event,
and we're looking for volunteers for all of those different events.
Those can help us. We would also love to have
volunteers who can help us plan these adventures. Do a
(28:00):
lot of the planning, but we can have more adventures
if we had more adventures planned, and.
Speaker 10 (28:05):
The best way to do that go to the website
American Heroes Inaction dot org. Just a wonderful organization and
Dave Profit is the guy that heads this up, spends
all that time, makes all that effort, really encouraging any
of you to get involved as a volunteer as he suggests,
or if you are a veteran of one of our
armed forces, or a firefighter, a police officer, retired, injured, et, cetera.
(28:28):
Looking to join in with the camaraderie of these adventures again.
You can find that online American Heroes in Action dot Org.
Dave great stuff is always enjoy the trip, safe travels,
and we'll talk to you when.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You get back.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
I look forward to it. Ryan, You have a good
rest of.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
Your day, all right, Dave, profit right. They're American Heroes
in Action. What a great organization, and that website one
more time, American Heroes Inaction dot org.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
We'll take this time out. We're wrap it up.
Speaker 10 (28:51):
Kelly's back. He's got some thoughts. I'm sure of it,
and I know you do too. Five seven seven three nine.
Send those texts along. We'll wind it on down after this.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
On Ryan schruling Locke, Well, I do want to say
that NPR acknowledges that we were mistaken and failing to
cover the Hunter Biden laptop story more aggressively and sooner
our current editorial leadership wuhan. We recognize that we were
reporting at the time, but we acknowledged that the new
(29:20):
CIA evidence is worthy of coverage and have covered it.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Ca Okay.
Speaker 10 (29:25):
Catherine Maher, NPR CEO acknowledging and testimony on Capitol Hill
today that they were mistaken in failing to cover the
Hunter Biden laptop story more aggressively and sooner, and the
whole Wuhan lab lab leak theory that was discounted and
dismissed and demonized and vilified. That you had to be
(29:48):
a conspiracy theorist if you thought that COVID started in
a lab, which we now suspect that it absolutely did.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Do you believe her?
Speaker 10 (29:57):
I have every reason not to belie. They didn't fail
to cover the Hunter Biden laptop story. They were wish casting.
They didn't want it to be true. And so with
that preconceived notion and bias went into it with the
mindset of, oh, these fifty one former government officials, Intel
(30:18):
are saying in his all the markings of Russian disinformation.
We're not gonna be curious, We're not going to investigate,
We're not going to do our own independent reporting or
verification of this. We're just going to take what we're
spoon fed and report that as fact. And they were
nothing but vessels for the left, and they always have been.
And this is why we need to defund the Corporation
for Public Broadcasting. Tucker Carlson revealed that his father, Dick Carlson,
(30:43):
had passed away. Now this is a legendary figure. He
was a single dad. Tucker's mom abandoned him and his brother,
and he became a super dad in a lot of ways.
And at one time he was the head of the
Corporation for Public Broadcasting. At one time there was a
purpose for that, government funded subsidized broadcasting for the broader
(31:06):
American public, so they didn't have to rely solely on ABC,
CBS or NBC. This is at a time and I
remember at my youth where you had channels on the television.
If you didn't have cable, that was it. And then
they had PBS and I watched Sesame Street and mister
Rogers and I love all that. But what it has
become is a far cry from what it once was.
(31:26):
And the fact that somebody like this Katherine Maher is
in charge of it tells you everything you need to know.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
This is her suggesting that you know what.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
Seeking the truth isn't necessarily the best place to start.
Speaker 11 (31:38):
But one of the most significant differences critical for moving
from polarization to productivity is that the wikipedians who write
these articles aren't actually focused on finding the truth. They're
working for something that's a little bit more attainable, which
is the best of what we can know right now.
And after seven years there, I actually believe that they're
(31:59):
onto something that for our most tricky disagreements, Seeking the
truth and seeking to convince others of the truth isn't
necessarily the best place to start. In fact, I think
our reverence for the truth might become might have become
a bit of a distraction that is preventing us from
finding consensus and getting important things done.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Seeking the truth is a distraction.
Speaker 10 (32:26):
The emblem of Harvard University has a slogan on it,
Veritas Truth. That's what our academic institutions used to seek
as their mission, as their goal. But now it's just
the truth, however you define it. It's my truth, not
the truth. It's hashtag me too. It's my truth. This
(32:47):
is my truth according to me. It's true to me.
It's not a lie if you believe it, George Costanza
or O. J. Simpson, if I did it. Here's Katherine
Maher again and our CEO on the number one challenge
fighting disinformation.
Speaker 11 (33:05):
The number one challenge here that we see is of course,
the First Amendment in the United States is a fairly
robust protection of rights, and that is a protection of
rights those for platforms, which I actually think is very
important that platforms have those rights to be able to
regulate what kind of content they want on their sites.
But it also means that it is a little bit
(33:26):
tricky to really address some of the real challenges of
where does bad information come from and sort of the
influenced tedlers who have made a real market economy around it.
Speaker 10 (33:36):
So she laments the First Amendment, use it as an
obstacle to protecting us from ourselves. See, you're not smart
enough to discern what's information, what's misinformation, what's truth, what's lie,
what's real news, what's fake news?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
So they have to do it for you. They know best.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
Just trust them, and they're going to weed out all
the misinformation and all the people perpetrating and trafficking in misinformation.
The only problem is for Katherine Maher and everybody on
the left that wants to censor all of us on
the right, is that misinformation, disinformation, mail, information, lies never
come from the left. Cite me one example or one
of these clowns, one of these censorious oppressive.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Clowns has said, you know what, there's misinformation on both sides.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
It's only misinformation that conflicts with their narrative, their version
of events, their so called truth. Kelly, should we defund
the Corporation for Public Broadcasting?
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Well, isn't it interesting that when that is brought up,
all of a sudden they're all about, well, maybe we
need to be more fair and balanced now they're coming
and that, you know, we have to you know, study
the way that and maybe bring in other people. And
isn't it the same institution that came out maybe a
year ago and they basically said ninety percent of.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Their workforce were liberals.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
Of course gave to Biden.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Oh yeah, it's in the campaign. It's Nico Chamber.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
So you know, so all of a sudden, when you
get does and you get people in there saying, you know,
this is kind of bad. I think we need to
defund these people. It's just like places like Columbia where
Trump doubles down and says, okay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Ripping your federal funding. You're gone with forty four hundred million,
just as I think.
Speaker 10 (35:17):
That federal funding should not be targeted toward info Wars
or Steve Bannon or conservative outlets right, Nor should it
for this obviously liberal outlet. Let the liberal fund themselves.
You got coastal liberal elites who are very wealthy. They
live in Martha's vineyard, and they can help prop up
NPR and PBS.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
So have never actually succeeded because there are shows like
yours that are listened to, not NPR.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
You got to defund it. No federal funding, No more
federal dollars.
Speaker 10 (35:49):
This texture says that to defund NPR, I'm done paying
for these scumbags. Well, they're just biased tacks. Let them
pay for themselves. They got enough liberals with money they
can do it. George Soros, Bill Gates and others. They
don't need our tax dollars anymore. But I'll do it
for me from here for now.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
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